jude was talking about people hu claimed to be part of us that are not teaching what we wer originally handed down. He ws getting very worried so his still telling the little group that would only listen to him “don’t listen to all these ne this that are coming along you fight hard for that original faith that was delivered and to us follow the tradition of the famly!
In the bible in the letter of jesus younger brother jude there is an extraordinary passage announcing a group of people hu are secretly corrupting the true faith! “ for admission has been secretly gained by som hu long ago wer designated for this condemnation, ungodly persons hu pervert the grace of our god” if you decode it, it becomes a clear warning that the new movement wer losing sight of jesus original message.
so it is now clear that the very earliest Christians including jesus own family did not see him as god! And ultimately that’s is y the church had gon so far to dellet them from the christen story.
this book of teaching also contains a detailed description of a very early communion service unlike 2day ther is no suggestion that the bread and wine are the body and blood of Christ infact jesus is refured to not as gods son but his servant.
stated in this lovely book:
“and concerning the broken bread we thank you our FATHER for the life and knowlagd you’ve made known to us through jesus your servent, to you belongs the glory forever”
this book contains a code of Christian ethics based on the original teachings of jesus and som instructions to the proper forms of worship. But what makes it so dangerous for 2daya christianity is what it leads out. Ther is no mention of the resurrection and no mention of jesus as a god of any kind! This book proves the humanity of his teachings that hav been lost!
the library of the greek patriots has the only complete copy of a anshent hand book especially written for converts to christianity that was compiled wen jesus famly wer still alive. the book is a direct insite into what the very earliest! Christians thought and did!
these real messages can also b found in other text to. in the greek quartor of the old city Jerusalem there is another ancient book that was not included in the bible. It is one of the oldest document even older than the gospels themselves, it is the key for christians to understand jesus original message!
there wer som Christian leaders that said to a concerned Christian that they didn’t want to include him. “but his the brother of jesus y wouldn’t you want his letter?”
coz if u read the letter is dosent hav the gospel that people came to associate with christianity!
in complete contrast to 2days Christianity the letters describe jesus as there master and not the son of god! They (his own family) see jesus as a human charter blessed by god!
The letters of jesus brothers wer so dangerous that for hundreds of yrs that the CHURCH FATHERS! Refused to include the in the bible they wer finialy excpted because the all traditions concerning jesus’s family wer so strong.
@TheLordAwaked Yes Three persons in One GOD/LORD. Using the word Lord instead of God does not change the unity in the trinity. Blessed is HE that comes in the name of the LORD. "The Father judgeth no man but has committed all judgement unto the Son..John 5:22 . Reject the trinity and you reject the Relationship of the Father to the Son. Not a smart idea.
You're wasting your breath, if anyone truly wanted to learn the truth, they would look for it themselves rather than bug people on the internet. Truth needs no defense, if people wish to ignore it then let them live in ignorance, and just pray for them
Great video. ( = God came as Jesus Christ to pay for the sins of the whole world. By faith in Him, we receive forgiveness of sins, eternal life, the Holy Spirit living in us, God's peace, joy, love, and assurance of eternity in Heaven with Him. Through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ for our sins we are also accepted as children of God and receive God's help in time of need. He is our Savior. ( =
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter It's a hoax because it tries to pass off the Bible as a historical book when the Bible is just a poorly written book full of contradictions and fallacies.
@infox1000 , The Bible has NO contradictions, only shallow thinkers cannot see the depths and vast dimensional wisdom in it. It is living and powerful and many miracles can be created by speaking its words. The prophesies are unsurpassed in exact fulfillment down to the day and time.
@GodsSeer The Bible said that King Nebuchadnezzar would destroy Egypt. That prophecy never happened and there are lots of contradictions. Just look at how Judas was killed.
@infox1000, Nebuchadnezzar laid waste the entire country of Egypt. "Migdol to Syene" (verse 6)—that is, Suez to Aswan—denotes, as it did in 29:10, the whole land from north to south. We read about Noph, Pathros and Tehaphnehes in connection with Jeremiah's journey to Egypt in Jeremiah 43-44. Noph (Memphis), Zoan (Tanis), Sin (Pelusium), Aven (On or Heliopolis), Pi Beseth (Bubastis) and Tehaphnehes were in the northern Nile Delta region of Egypt. No, Pathros and Syene the south.
@infox1000 However, this could also refer to destruction meted out over time—by Nebuchadnezzar yes, but also by later invaders. Notice the prophecy of verse 13: "There shall no longer be princes from the land of Egypt." This has been understood to mean that the rulers of Egypt would no longer be native Egyptian. Under Babylonian rule, the pharaoh was subject to the Babylonian emperor.
@GodsSeer Nope it's pretty clear that Nebuchadnezzar would be the one to destroy Egypt and that the Nile would dry up. The first one didn't happen and the second has yet to happen. It's been more than 2000 years. If it meant any Babylonian ruler why does the Bible mention Nebuchadnezzar and why does the Bible never acknowledge that prophecy later on?
@infox1000 , Some prophesies include future events, No prophesy will fail. Nebuchadnezzar laid siege to mainland Tyre three years after the prophecy and after a 13 year siege (585-573 BC) Tyre made terms and acknowledged Babylonian authority over them (4 xxii.452) When Nebuchadnezzar broke the gates down, he found the city almost empty.
@infox1000 ,The majority of the people had moved by ship to an island about 1/2 miles off the coast and fortified a city there. The mainland city was destroyed in 573 BC, as predicted. The verse says; Eze 30:10 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will also make a multitude of Egypt to cease By the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. MULTITUDES DID DIMINISH.
@GodsSeer But it wasn't destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar. His army wasn't strong enough to enter Egypt and like I said the Bible never acknowledges this prophecy later on. Most likely because it never happened.
@infox1000 , Does it say it will be destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar? Or does it just say "I will also make a multitude of Egypt to cease By the hand of Nebuchadnezzar''The first prophecy (29:1-16) says that Pharaoh will not succeed in fighting Nebuchadnezzar, and that eventually Babylon will destroy Egypt and leave her desolate for 40 years.
@infox1000 ,The following prophecies (29:17-21; 30:1-19), uttered a little over 16 years later, state that Nebuchadnezzar has finished his 13-year siege of Tyre, and is now coming to fulfill the first prophecy (see Ezekiel 26 for the prediction of the siege of Tyre).In the fourth prophecy (30:20-26), God tells Ezekiel that He has vanquished Pharaoh through Nebuchadnezzar in October of 587 BC. By implication, Nebuchadnezzar is now able to return to Jerusalem and finish the job.
@infox1000 ,The fifth prophecy comes right before the destruction of Jerusalem (31:1-18), in the third month of the lunar year (June, 586 BC). It predicts that Nebuchadnezzar will destroy Egypt as he destroyed Assyria. these oracles against Egypt dovetail with events in Jeremiah. Many Jews fled to Egypt to avoid Nebuchadnezzar. God is telling them that judgment will come upon them in Egypt, and Egypt will be wasted thoroughly. It would be far better to go to Babylon.
@infox1000 ,Amazing how YHVH'S Wisdom is able to HIDE things from mockers and reveal them to His own Children. Moreover, since the destruction of Egypt was postponed for 16 years while Nebuchadnezzar dealt with Tyre and other problems, the Jews in Egypt were allowed a time of false hopes, and possibly of conversion, since Jeremiah was among them.The rest of Ezekiel comes after the destruction of Jerusalem, and we shall come to it in due course.
@infox1000 ,Approximately 2500 prophecies appear in the Bible, about 2000 of which already have been fulfilled to the letter—no errors. (The remaining 500 or so reach into the future.) probability for any one of these prophecies having been fulfilled is less than one in ten (figured very conservatively) and since the prophecies are for the most part independent of one another, the odds for all these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance without erroris 1 with 2000 zeros written after it
@infox1000 OK where to start?..Israel scattered, 70 AD EVENT...Returning from those many nations around the world. To Suffer many persecutions while others possessed there land. There trials mirrored CHRISTS suffering. THE TEMPLE destruction exactly as Christ Jesus said "not one stone left upon another". Brick by Brick torn down. After the restoration Israel surrounded on all sides by "people of common belief" that will seek to destroy her. I CHALLENGE YOU to spend some time looking.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter And now Israel is a nation that is illegally occupying other people and forcing those people who leave their homes by bulldozing them. Not to mention the Jews are only doing this because the Bible tells them it's their land so they feel like they have the right to do whatever they want, regradless of what happens to the Arabs. If that's you think Jews illegaly stealing land from others is a prophecy fulfilled then I feel sorry for you.
@infox1000 King Nebuchadnezzar conquered Egypt. God used King Nebuchadnezzar to execute judgement on the Egyptians. God also paid King Nebuchadnezzar for this service by giving him the land of Egypt (Ezekiel 29:19,20).
@infox1000, Now we must return to Jeremiah, and clock the destruction of Jerusalem from his point of view. Then we shall dovetail Ezekiel and Jeremiah together in a chronological chart in order to form a coherent picture of the events of these three years.Nebuchadnezzar laid siege to Jerusalem on the 10th day of the 10th month (roughly January) of 588 BC, which was in the 9th year of Jehoiachin and Zedekiah.
@infox1000 Nebuchadnezzar captured King Zedekiah. He slew his evil sons before his eyes, and then took him off to Babylon in chains (Jer. 39:4-7). About a month later, the 7th-10th of the 5th month, Nebuzaradan arrived at Jerusalem to burn the Temple and the city. Nebuzaradan took the poor slaves of the city and gave them land in Israel to farm, thus granting the release their Jewish masters had denied them (Jer. 39:10).
@infox1000 A new capital for Israel was set up a Mizpah, and Gedaliah was made Governor of Judah (2 Ki. 25:22-24). Meanwhile, Jeremiah had mistakenly been rounded up to be deported to Babylon with the rest of the captives (Jer. 40:1; the Book of Lamentations). The God-fearing gentile Nebuzaradan freed him..told him that he can join Ezekiel and Daniel in Babylon, or go serve Gedaliah at Mizpah. Jeremiah chose the latter,Nebuzaradan provided him rations and honored him with a gift (Jer. 40:1-6).
@tomland68 catholicism and other man made religions are frauds, but Jesus Christ is God who came to pay the penalty for your sins. God spoke everything into existence by His Word, and He holds everything together by His Word. His Word is His promise and Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of His promise. He is God our Savior. He paid the penalty for your sins so that you can know Him and have eternal life. Thank Him today for what He has done for you.
"But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah...out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." Micah 5:2.......the He here is Jesus Christ...the ME here is the Father....(come forth unto me)..... "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool"
Compare Joh 1:29 "...John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which TAKETH AWAY THE SIN of the world... 31 And I knew... HE SHOULD BE MADE MANIFEST..." with- 1 Joh 3:1 "Behold... THE FATHER... 5 ...YE KNOW THAT HE WAS MANIFESTED to take away our sins..." How much more clear can it get man?
@Twisteddreamer78 The Greek word Delos means clear, evident, manifest. I thought i would point that out. Also "No man has seen the Father..Literally...They see Jesus Christ who does the Will of the Father therefore they see the Nature of the Father Through the Son not the Father in Glory..
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter They see the literal Physical manifestation of the father in Jesus. This is evidenced by your own reference to the Greek word Delos.
Micah 5:2 is merely stating that the Physical body of Jesus would come out of bethlehem. It also gives reference to his "everlasting" or his infinite existence in that he "always was as Jesus stated in rev 1:8 but if the son came from the father then the Father must be older which isn't the case we see here.
Joh 8:19 "Then said they unto him, WHERE IS THY FATHER? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: IF YE HAD KNOWN *ME*, YE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN MY FATHER ALSO... 24 I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS: **FOR IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS**. 25 Then said they unto him, WHO ART THOU? And Jesus saith unto them, EVEN THE SAME THAT I SAID UNTO YOU from the beginning... 27 THEY UNDERSTOOD NOT THAT HE SPAKE TO THEM OF THE FATHER."
@Twisteddreamer78 You left out the important PART...."""I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him"". Father person sent him...the word -HIM- is Father that proceeds the part that they did not understand that he was speaking of the Father....He was no wise trying to say that he was the Father. they simply did not understand the he was Messiah and God Manifested in the flesh.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter I left that out because it provides no additional evidence and is referring to the Physical body of Jesus as evidenced by the above verses.
I gave you verses stating that Jesus created all things and nothing was created except by "HIM" Either he is the one in the creation story or he's lying. I'm not sure about what Allah hates as i have no interest in Allah.....Allah may very well be the Devil or at least a High ranking Demon but that's beside the point.
@Twisteddreamer78 He (Almighty) is telling us that He is Eternal past present and future. Same as "From everlasting to Everlasting thou art God" or the Greek says "From eternity into the Eternity thou art God"..
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter "he" The "Almighty" is given in example of both Jesus and the old Testament God because they are one and the same. The bible is full of verses wherein Something is stated concerning Jesus only and is also stated of the God (singular) in the old Testament.. Jesus saying he is not the same person.......Where is that in the bible? John 14:23 sounds as if he's referring to the Holy spirit which was to come after and dwell with us....Thought you said they were separate persons?
God the Son, but always the Son of God; nowhere God the Holy Spirit, but the spirit of God, or the Holy Spirit. The expressions first person, second person, third person, three persons, are not found. Now if the very words, which are necessary to express the doctrine, are not in the Scriptures, how can we suppose the doctrine itself to be there?
Jesus was fully God and fully man. As man He hungered, thirsted, slept, prayed, bled and died. As God He healed, raised the dead, had control over the elements, forgave sin.
Most Jews thousands of years ago would NOT accept your view or mine....Genesis.."Let US make man in OUR image and Our likeness". Judaism has NEVER accepted Jesus Christ as any part of God. Ether person or Mode. There Messiah is not a king, lord, savior or worshiped. Most did not even recognize the coming of there Messiah. There was FAR MORE Jews who wanted Jesus Crucified than those who Believed. Jews KILLED there own Prophets. Consistently they missed signs and understandings of scriptures.
Colossians 2:9 declares, "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily
1 Tim 3:16, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh Gen 1:27, "So God created man in "HIS" own image,
Hebrews 1:2-3, "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person
@Twisteddreamer78 Notice...By His Son, Notice WHOM.....He Hath appointed. Does he appoint around in a circle back to himself? Does he apoint to his other namem his other side, other mode, other extension or image or whatever you try to call it? Also did you ever read the verse "The FATHER judges no man BUT has committed all judgement unto the SON.?" It is still a Relationship. Always and Forever. He did NOT beget himself.
@Twisteddreamer78 Yes I know that verse very well....Dont forget the part where it sys that HE (Jesus) was RECEIVED up in Glory. He was Received.. Does he receive himself? We can try another translation and get the same message. Does he pray to himself? Is the Father well pleased with the Son Mode when the Son mode is being Baptized by John?
The real question is why do you keep looking for answers when the answer was stated plainly?
You refute the words of God himself and instead look to "circumstances".
Col 2, 8-10 says Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
@Twisteddreamer78 A God who needs to Act as three is weak. A God who IS three is Powerful. God is not an Actor? He is TRUTH. Satan is the Great Actor/Deciever. "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." Not GOD "I the Lord thy God I change Not"...He Sends the Son. He does not Act out the Son. Jesus Christ also does not change... "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever". Father Son and Spirit are individually mentioned repeatedly through the NT.
@Twisteddreamer78 I really have a hard time talking with someone who cannot even understand basic and simple language terms. Most people in the entire world can pick up ANY Bible and understand it is clearly talking about THREE PERSONS in any language. ANY! I am sitting here debating with some CULT like mentality. this is the sort of logic breakdown i hear from Mormons.. Thinking that they are right and all the rules and rational thinking is thrown out because of a feeling.
I'd also be interested in knowing his role as well as the roles of the son and the holy spirit since the bible is full of all 3 claiming to be the only one that did certain things with explicit passages such as "None other beside me" etc
@Twisteddreamer78 The Name of God the Father is Father.in English of course.. "Our Father which art in Heaven" The Name of Christ is Jesus in English. I do not dare bring up other language names, I dont think your ready for them. The men who formed YOUR BIBLE VERSION believed in Three Persons and translated the Bible as Such. Using Grammatic Rules of the day. You cannot re-write the entire history of Bible Publishing Line. You cannot read it your way and reject those who PRINTED IT.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter If you wanted to compare all the plural references to all the singular references to God in the bible.....The Singular would blow the plural completely out of the water...Why then do you look too plural references as evidence? Especially when God himself states the truth of his singularity on multiple occasions as well as the fact that trinity is not in the Bible anywhere.....You allow yourself to be deceived too easily.
@Twisteddreamer78 I gave more references. Why would we need the specific word trinity to be translated into the Bible? The word "Bible" is not in the Bible. Quran IS in the Quran. So what. It is a small word used to combine many words. We could unwrap it into "These Three Persons are One God". The NT names THEM individually on at least a THIRD of its pages, Explain why god acts as multiple persons yet still being one person. You MUST be able to Explain the PURPOSE of it.
I haven't even begun to give references because I thought you understood that God the father, Son and spirit used words like I and me and none other than "we" or "us"
If you like I can start listing examples.......
The new testament names the individually?
Where?
I am someones father and can relate to someone else's son, When i have Kids I'll be someone else's father, when i die, i'll be a spirit...But I'll always be me.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Where does The Father, Son or holy spirit ever claim there is three different persons?
Lets start with one example......Ready set....Go!
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Now each of them claiming stuff like "there is only "me" and "i alone" and "I" am the beginning and the ending...Speaking of which....That verse right there debunks Trinitarian ism.....You choose to be deceived.
@Twisteddreamer78 "“But I do not seek My glory; there is One who seeks and judges." John 8:50 Son and Father.
.."You heard that I said to you, I go away, and I will come to you. If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I'" John 14:28. What does Jesus do when he gets to the Father? Disappear?
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Do you accept that the Jews worshiped one God and not 3 persons but only one?
if you don't, I suggest you ask a Jew.
That being said, read Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come.
Paul said that he is teaching the same thing that Moses and the prophets taught including 1 God......Your claims debunked again.
@Twisteddreamer78 I already said MOST Jews did not even know the hour there Lord did Come. Most do not understand "Let Us make Man in our image and Our likeness Either". But here is another problem with One Person....KJV.."And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou [wilt]. Matthew 26:39 .Clearly there is two offices here. One is always doing the Will of the Other.
@Twisteddreamer78 "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.John 5:30 When will the Son of God stop doing the Fathers Will? There are many mystery's of GOD and in Heaven we will understand far more about his Nature than we do today.. But he is in a Relationship. Love. Sharing. Giving. Receiving. Honoring. Before The World was formed.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 Tim 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness : God was manifest in flesh..." Notice that we are told that God and not some separate person of the Godhead was manifest in flesh.
@Twisteddreamer78 "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus who,.being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." -Phil 2:5-8 Manifested in Flesh.
@Twisteddreamer78 "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus who,.being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." -Phil 2:5-8 Manifested in Flesh. " ...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Again, you're reaching but even in Philip :5-8.....It states that he didn't think it was a robbery to be equal with God.....because he was/is God incarnate.....
John 1:3-4-, "All things came into being by [Christ], and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life; and the life was the light of men." So nothing was created by anything other than God the son?
The Father and Holy spirit let him create everything?
@Twisteddreamer78 Heb1..God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;..(By his Son)...whom HE (FATHER)....Father created through the SON...Nothing in either passages to suggest one person. Not at all. I think you assume that GOD being single word must also be One in Person.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter So he "the father" created all things through the Son........Either the father is taking credit for something the son did or the father used the powers of the son to create everything or the father.......is the son as is explicitly stated by God in the old and new testament as well as the prophets in the old and new testament.
there's your answer!
Your next step is to Repent and be baptized in the name of the father (Jesus) and to receive the Gift of the Holy ghost.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter John 8:58--Jesus said, "Before Abraham was born, I am." Jesus appropriated to Himself the name of God, who said, "I am who I am" (Ex. 3:14
@Twisteddreamer78 I know all that... I did make a video proving without a doubt Jesus Christ is GOD incarnate...Did it ever strike you as something interesting when God used I AM three times in a row when he revealed himself to Moses?..here is something very interesting. NT "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool" Matthew 22:44 OT..The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Psalm 110:1
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter It did "occur" to me that God used "i am" 3 times......Sounds like he's refuting the trinity 3 different times in reference to the false doctrine that would come later.
"The Lord" is "my lord" which in itself is a reference to the physical manifestation of God.
In reference to you saying that Jesus Christ created all things as well as has always been in existence.....So in what way is the "father" a father? He didn't create Jesus and he didn't create the world according to u
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Colossians 1:15-17--Paul wrote of Christ, "He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation. For in Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created by Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." Christ is the Creator.
@Twisteddreamer78 Absolutely ...Christ is Creator and he is the Son of God. I am sure he created all things by the will of the Father what do you say?
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Hebrews 1:3--"[Christ] is the radiance of [God's] glory and the exact representation of His nature."
.John 10:38--Jesus said to them, "If I do [the works of the Father], though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father."
@Twisteddreamer78 Holy Spirit is in me but we are not the same person. ...JOHN 14"23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me." (-WE- will come unto him) the word you hears is not My (person) own but the Fathers (person) who -SENT- Me...
@Twisteddreamer78 I agree that CHRIST is an exact --representation-- of the Father because he does everything the Father Asks. He tells us that over and over..Islams ALLAH, who is proven without a doubt to be Satan is a single person God. He does not have a Son and Sends no Sacrifice for Sin. He demands worship. Allah is selfish. He hates the Trinity, Hates the Cross, Hates the Blood of Christ. Hates the Relationship of the Father and Son. He hates being obedient to anyone but himself..
@Twisteddreamer78 Did the Father come from the womb of Mary? No another person or Yes same person? Did the Father die on the Cross? No another person or Yes same person? Need I go on?
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Yes the father inhabited the body that came from the womb of mary as he himself stated and no the Father didn't die, only the body that was inhabited by the father in order to create the new covenant.
@Twisteddreamer78 It also said the the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. I do not understand the scenerio of Jesus Person Overshadowing Mary under the title Holy GHost then entering her womb as that same person to change modes. I also don't doubt the Father was WITH HIM but The Father was also in Heaven Telling the Son what he must do.. The Holy Spirit lives -IN- me and is -WITH- me but I am not The Father.
@Twisteddreamer78 It also said the the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. I do not understand the scenario of Jesus Person Overshadowing Mary under the title Holy Ghost then entering her womb as that same person to change modes. I also don't doubt the Father was WITH HIM but The Father was also in Heaven Telling the Son what he must do. The Holy Spirit lives -IN- me and is -WITH- me but I am not The Father.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter The word LORD (all capitals) refers to Yahweh - the Name of the one God of the Old Testament. A prophecy in Isaiah 40:3 (quoted in Matt 3:3,Mark 1:2,Luke 3:4) speaks of John the Baptist as 'the voice of the one crying in the wilderness' whose life mission was to prepare the way of the LORD or Yahweh. We know from scripture that John prepared the way for Jesus. This tells us that Jesus is the LORD or Yahweh Himself - the one true God of the Old Testament come in the flesh.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter John 1:1 says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." and John 1:14 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us..." God and His Word are one just as a man and his word are one. We cannot separate a man from his word and say that they are separate persons. God's Word is God expressing Himself. In the Old Testament God spoke through the mouth of His prophets but when the fullness of time came
@Twisteddreamer78 Jesus Christ (GOD) with Father(GOD). Yes One God Yes One Word. IF GOD was one person there would be no need to APPEAR as three persons. No one to love before Creation. Children can read the Bible and by simple logic they understand and see the three persons in the text. Then someone comes along and tries to tell them SORRY. There actually the same person acting like three persons. The Child's learning suddenly comes crashing down into a state of confusion.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter I've also noticed How Children can read in the bible and see where God the father states that is the Son and vice versa and it's clear to them......Even Children realize that the name of the father son and Holy spirit is the same when it's stated to them.....Until of course Someone tries to tell them....SORRY....they really aren't the same person and even though we can't explain how God (singular) suddenly means something else altogether
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Acts 19 13Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the LORD Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. 14And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so. 15And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
That's what happens when one speaks without authority as trinitarians do.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter God expressed Himself in flesh in order to make Himself known like never before. If we want to know how God is like we need only to look at Jesus through the things that He said and did. Jesus is the image of the invisible God (Col 1:15
Tertullian (160-215) (Adv. Prax. 23; PL 2.156-7) and Origen (185-254) without any controversy. No need to quote them too. Like I said it is a Relationship that you consistently reject. Something that needs to be cured. Either GOD talks to himself for no logical reason or he is in Relationship and thus the Father loves the Son and the Son loves the Father..
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter There are other explanations such as the way of speaking of oneself in ancient Latin as i stated before. It was designated to royalty. There is also the fact that since Jesus was an example, he was acting like one...Go figure right?
The Jews believe in a Single god, Christianity continues where Judaism left off therefore the same being is worshiped. Ask any Jew if there are separate "persons" in the God head and there's your answer.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Look up Monarchians and Modalists and when they were around.
Here's a verse for ya
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6
It calls Jesus the father....As I said....you look for clues when the answers are repeatedly given.
@Twisteddreamer78 These are titles, creeds about a persons Nature, All Biblical Names had Meanings. What do we do with the other Creeds mentioned in Isaiah 9:6? Some are not in the NT anywhere , It is simply characteristics of the person being mentioned, Bread of Life, Lamb of God, Root and Offspring of David and so on. Page after page In the NT we see the use of "Father and Son and Spirit" exclusively as separate persons. Never "Our Father Jesus" Because GOD is an Eternal Relationship.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Speaking of Titles and creeds.....What is the name of the father and of the Holy Ghost again?
If I had enough room in these comment lines I'd show you about 20 examples of both God the Father and Jesus being the only one doing certain things......Either one of them is lying or they're both the same one
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
@Twisteddreamer78 Simple. Jesus already said he ALWAYS does the will of the Father. When they see what Jesus Says and Does they see what the Father commanded him to do. John 14:31 " the world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me." This is how they have seen the Father. Also is says in another verse "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father". Speaking of seeing the Father in his Glory.
@Twisteddreamer78 This video rejects the Trinitarian doctrine? Really? Please explain how. First of all this video is not directly made to teach the truth about the Trinity. Second the video is all Reliable Biblical Passages. I have Plenty of Biblical passages in mind to make a video that does focus directly on the Trinity. It Might be hard for some to admit three persons exist in the One God but it is Biblical. Three persons and Words like He, Us, We and Our are used often.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Nowhere in the bible is the word trinity used.....All the "evidence" that you use is taken from different circumstances. where you try and put two and two together even while god himself repeatedly tells you there is only ONE God.
You're blind to the truth.
Jesus himself said "I am he" Not I am "one of them"
or "Worship us" .
Father, Son and Holy Ghost are titles....NOT names.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Upon birth a man is a son, he then becomes a Father and when he sheds his body he becomes a Spirit......He is still the same person
God The almighty one brought "himself" down to our level in more ways then just 1.... a Video for you watch?v=m_B85kNc36g
@Twisteddreamer78 Using mortals to explain GODS substance? 1. while YOU are a Son you have a Father and Mother and possibly a Brother and Sister. 2. When John the Baptist baptized JESUS the Holy Spirit came down upon JESUS in the form of Dove then the Father HIMSELF Spoke from Heaven "This is my beloved SON....."..3. The Son does not know the hour he would receive his BRIDE, but the Father only" (Relates to Jewish Weddings). The Son does not do his own will. (HE HONORS) IN RELATIONSHIP.
You left out the rest of that verse....."This is my beloved son "in" whom I am well pleased......There's a reason he didn't say "with" whom. In answer to the other two verses mentioned, There is several possibilities including the original translation but the fact is that Jesus himself stated "I and the father are one.....or "we are the same". Why look elsewhere for the answer when it was already stated plainly?
@Twisteddreamer78 ... JN 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. ..JN 17:20-21 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word..That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: The Apostles are GOD?
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter No, the apostles aren't God...That's even more foolish than Trinitarian beliefs.
If you look up a couple scriptures in John 14, you'll see that Jesus is referring to the Holy spirit which is evidenced in Acts 2 and dwells inside Gods Children after the new covenant is formed. This actually evidences that God the father dwells inside of Jesus the man...You left that part out though because it was convenient for your claims I guess.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter As for 17:20, Jesus is again referring to the Holy Ghost dwelling inside them as per the new covenant which again is pretty obvious if you read the whole chapter. The Holy Ghost would dwell in them as God the father dwelt inside of the garment of flesh that is known as Jesus.
@Twisteddreamer78 Consider this. This Announcement you speak of is when The Father decides when to Reveal THE TIME to send the Son to receive his Bride, NOW the Son knows the Time. Remember Jesus said that he did not come to do his own will but the Fathers Will. Perfect Honor. Even Timing Comes out of the Father then Through the Son who Always done HIS Fathers Will. .GOD said let us make man in our image and our likeness. GOD was already in a RELATIONSHIP. GOD Created Man to need Relationships.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter You're again drawing erroneous conclusions and instead of getting into all of the verses wherein Jesus states that he is the father and Vice versa, (because if you did read the bible you'd know it's full of them....Do yourself a favor and don't ask me to start post those examples) I will say that The creator is infinite but became finite inside of Jesus. I will also say in reference to genesis that the verse in question is likely a latin way of speaking for royalty
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter A simple Google search on the subject will give you several possibilities about who the :us" and we is in Genesis. The Jews believe he was talking to them but regardless, the Jews themselves were/are monotheistic in that they believe in a single God. So you believe that The Son and the holy spirit allowed Jehovah to repeatedly make statements such as..."Cont"
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Cont" Yahweh (YHWH) or Jehovah is the special name given by God for Himself in the Old Testament. It is the name revealed to Moses in Exodus 3:14, when God said, “I am who I am.” While other titles for God may be used of men (adonai [Lord] in Genesis 18:12) or false gods (elohim[gods] in Deuteronomy 6:14), Yahweh is only used to refer to the one true God.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter "Cont" No other person or thing was to be worshiped or served (Ex. 20:5), and HIS name and glory were not to be given to another. Isaiah wrote, “Thus saith Jehovah … "I" am the first, and I am the last; and besides "me" there is no God” (Isa. 44:6 ASV), and, “I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory I will not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images” (42:8 ASV).
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter "Cont" So, the name of God in the Old Testament was exclusive to him. He did not share it with anyone else. How, then, did Jesus refer to himself?
Jesus repeatedly refers to how he was "with God" since the beginning....So you must either state that one of the two is lying or they are the same being.
Do I need to list verses where Jesus "apparently" according to you contradicts the word of YHWH?
Trinitarians came approx 300 years after the birth of Christianity
@Twisteddreamer78 "approx 300 years after the birth of Christianity?" Tertullian taught the Trinity around 200AD less than 170 years after Pentacost. He also said that the teaching that Father Son and Spirit as the same person was Antichrist. Then you have Polycarp (70-155/160). Justin Martyr (100?-165?). Ignatius of Antioch (died 98/117). Irenaeus (115-190). Learned from Polycarp. Origen (185-254). ALL before the council of Nicea. I do not believe on feelings or traditions but facts.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Clement, Ignatius, and Polycarp have all been determined by historians to be Monarchians (Oneness) and not Trinitarians. They never developed any such terminology as "Separate Persons" or Trinity
Polycarp was put to death. Before being executed, the eighty-six-year-old Christian testified that HE WORSHIPPED CHRIST ALONE." (taken from an article on the subject) that also lists several examples of oneness claims from the others as well.
"O Lord God almighty... I bless you and glorify you through the eternal and heavenly high priest Jesus Christ, your beloved Son, through whom be glory to you, with Him and the Holy Spirit, both now and forever" (n. 14, ed. Funk; PG 5.1040).
"For, in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit, they then receive the washing with water" (First Apol., LXI).
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Never claimed Justin martyr was Oneness....Not sure about him although I believe i heard somewhere that he was one of the fathers of the false doctrine so that makes sense.
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter (Ignatius (ca. 107 AD)...Way to misconstrue their quotes with copy and paste.
Several of the quotes are actually from passages in which the 3 I mentioned are stating a Single all powerful being.
I have no idea why you'd post quotes that refute your own statement......I could in turn post several quotes from Copy and paste to prove my point but you've done a pretty good job doing it for me.
@Twisteddreamer78 .....glory of the Father ‘to gather all things in one,' and to raise up anew all flesh of the whole human race, in order that to Christ Jesus, our Lord, and God, and Savior, and King, according to the will of the invisible Father, ‘every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth, and that every tongue should confess; to him, and that He should execute just judgment towards all...'" (Against Heresies X.l)
@Twisteddreamer78 .....incarnate for our salvation; and in the Holy Spirit, who proclaimed through the prophets the dispensations of God, and the advents, and the birth from a virgin, and the passion, and the resurrection from the dead, and the ascension into heaven in the flesh of the beloved Christ Jesus, our Lord, and His manifestation from heaven in the.....
@Twisteddreamer78 Irenaeus Said....."The Church, though dispersed throughout the whole world, even to the ends of the earth, has received from the apostles and their disciples this faith: ...one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them; and in one Christ Jesus, the Son of God, who became......
Stanley Villavincencio from city of Cebu in Philippines the newest evidence that Jesus is God and he offers his mercy to everyone, and the Lord told Stanley that everybody who refuses his mercy will have to face his judgment and nobody is righteous in front of God, what makes us righteous is Jesus precious blood, and if we are not washed by his blood we are in danger. If we receive Jesus mercy then we are justified before heavenly court, Jesus came on this world to offer his endless mercy.
The Father is the uncreated God, The Son is the uncreated God, The Holy Ghost is the uncreated God. Yet they are not 3 uncreated God's but 1. For there are three that bear record in heaven the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost and these three are one. (How do we know 1 john was not written in latin? people who hate God's true nature like to ignore all manuscripts that are not greek when it comes to 1 john but they are fine doing it with everything else.)
The response video by (Yuratchka) at point 5:10 in the video he says this.... "Yes, Jesus is a god. yet in verse 9 Therefore God your God, Jesus has a God" He is saying that Jesus is a God but that the Father is the Highest God. Has he read..Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
I have uploaded my rebuttal of this here video of your's. Like I said, this video of your's is weak.
For those who want to see (just in case NoneBeforeNoneAfter doesn't approve my video response) the rebuttal you can find it on my channel in my playlist "Replies To Other Peep's Videos." Or you can do a quick search in the search engine for it, it's called 'RE: Jesus Christ is God Incarnate-Trinity-Three in One'
The link to it is: /watch?v=hhZPJ6iGk38 - You have a nice day.
This video is weak. Some individual pointed me to it from the comment section on my video 'Why Jesus is not the Genuine God' video so I will be making a video response to this video.
iSAIAH CHAPTERS 43,44,45......"Ye are my witnesses says the Lord and my servants whom I have chosen that you may Know and Understand and Believe that before me there was NO GOD formed neither shall there be after me"... I am the first, I am the Last, Apart from me ther is no God". ONE GOD..."Let US make man in our image and our likness" Father SPirit Son. Jesussaid... "Before Anraham was I AM"."I and MY FATHER ARE ONE".
ITRUTH HURTS but Jesus Christ who is TRUTH can save. Jesus is Judge. Jesus is wqorshiped. Jesus gives life. Jesus has GLORY. Jesus created. Jesus forgives sin. Jesus is from everlasting and from all eternity. Jesus Christ will preser4ve ISRAEL and it will stand at the End of Time. Jesus Christ has life in himself. Jesus Christ has the Power. Emanuel 'God with us". "Mighty God" "Prine of Peace" "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" Rev..."ALMIGHTY"..."First and the Last" of Revleation and Isaiah.
I Reject the Un-Holy Quran. I reject the False Proiphet Muhammad and I reject allah the False God who derived from the MOON GOD and BAAL. I REJECT the MAHDI who is the Anti-Christ of the BIBLE. I accept the BIBLE and its Holy Prophets. I Reject ISLAMS ISA who is false.. I ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST "The Word Made Flesh" who died on the CROSS for me. Jesus Christ willl JUDGE all men. You will all bow down and say "Jesus Christ is Lord".....No Man comes to the Father without Jesus CHrist.
If Jesus died for our sins why are Christians still born in sin? We live in this world which is a speck in the system which is a speck in the Milky way which is a speck in the universe, which is a speck in comparison to the throne of God. God the Everlasting became human in a speck in a speck in a speck and died? The creator is one God. The purest and most perfect truth about God is that He is 1. If you loved a man, know that men die. But if you love God know that He is living and cannot die.
To believe that the Eternal was temporary, that the Everlasting died, that the Self Sufficient had needs is to ask me to believe two contradictory things. Once Jesus rode on a donkey. Does God ride on a donkey? He saw a fig tree and felt hungry. Does God feel hunger? He came near and saw there were no figs. Was God ignorant? God was man and man was god is the same as saying the square became a circle but was still a square. Intellect does not agree with this. It is a mockery of the one God.
Among all religions on earth, Islam is the only one that tells people to believe in Jesus to love him even though not as a divine being. Yes Evangelical Christians focus their criticism on Islam. Just do you research on youtube you will find how hateful are these people to Islam.
They do not criticize Buddhist, Hindus, animist, Jews even though these religions do not accept Jesus.
Jewish Scholars know what Jesus Meant. The Jews back then knew it when Wanted to kill him. They know it today. Without the claims Jesus made the Jews would have accepted Christ as a Prophet . Muslims are TOLD HOW to read the bible. Rather than accepting it for what it is. Take all the passages in this video and read them in any translation, even the Greek! Set aside your pre-conceived notions. Compare his words to anyone. Jesus said.. "Who convinces me of Sin". Well do you?
# Romans 6:23 tells us that, "the wages of sin is death." This death is spiritual separation from God.
# Jesus Christ is God's ONLY provision for man's sin. It is through Jesus alone that we can personally know and experience God's love. Romans 5:8 tells us that, "God demonstrates His own Love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us"
John 14:6 tells us that He is the ONLY way, "Jesus said to Him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life.
Although all men have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. To Be Born Again allows you to enter heaven without the judgement of the law. First we escape the penalty of sin. Then the power of sin. And finally w escape the presence of sin in Heaven forever.
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jude was talking about people hu claimed to be part of us that are not teaching what we wer originally handed down. He ws getting very worried so his still telling the little group that would only listen to him “don’t listen to all these ne this that are coming along you fight hard for that original faith that was delivered and to us follow the tradition of the famly!
kktcrules 2 weeks ago
In the bible in the letter of jesus younger brother jude there is an extraordinary passage announcing a group of people hu are secretly corrupting the true faith! “ for admission has been secretly gained by som hu long ago wer designated for this condemnation, ungodly persons hu pervert the grace of our god” if you decode it, it becomes a clear warning that the new movement wer losing sight of jesus original message.
kktcrules 2 weeks ago
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so it is now clear that the very earliest Christians including jesus own family did not see him as god! And ultimately that’s is y the church had gon so far to dellet them from the christen story.
kktcrules 2 weeks ago
this book of teaching also contains a detailed description of a very early communion service unlike 2day ther is no suggestion that the bread and wine are the body and blood of Christ infact jesus is refured to not as gods son but his servant.
stated in this lovely book:
“and concerning the broken bread we thank you our FATHER for the life and knowlagd you’ve made known to us through jesus your servent, to you belongs the glory forever”
kktcrules 2 weeks ago
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this book contains a code of Christian ethics based on the original teachings of jesus and som instructions to the proper forms of worship. But what makes it so dangerous for 2daya christianity is what it leads out. Ther is no mention of the resurrection and no mention of jesus as a god of any kind! This book proves the humanity of his teachings that hav been lost!
kktcrules 2 weeks ago
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the library of the greek patriots has the only complete copy of a anshent hand book especially written for converts to christianity that was compiled wen jesus famly wer still alive. the book is a direct insite into what the very earliest! Christians thought and did!
kktcrules 2 weeks ago
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these real messages can also b found in other text to. in the greek quartor of the old city Jerusalem there is another ancient book that was not included in the bible. It is one of the oldest document even older than the gospels themselves, it is the key for christians to understand jesus original message!
kktcrules 2 weeks ago
there wer som Christian leaders that said to a concerned Christian that they didn’t want to include him. “but his the brother of jesus y wouldn’t you want his letter?”
coz if u read the letter is dosent hav the gospel that people came to associate with christianity!
in complete contrast to 2days Christianity the letters describe jesus as there master and not the son of god! They (his own family) see jesus as a human charter blessed by god!
kktcrules 2 weeks ago
Dear experts :)
The letters of jesus brothers wer so dangerous that for hundreds of yrs that the CHURCH FATHERS! Refused to include the in the bible they wer finialy excpted because the all traditions concerning jesus’s family wer so strong.
kktcrules 2 weeks ago
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A Question for Trinitarians : so according to their belief , Father + Son + Holy spirit = God The Creator as 1+1+1 = 3
so when Jesus was killed there was only Father + Holy spirit (left) = ?????? what ???? as only Father + Son + holy spirit can = God the creator.
can a component /part of God be killed ?? But God is immortal is He?
TheMessianicGentile 2 months ago
@TheLordAwaked Yes Three persons in One GOD/LORD. Using the word Lord instead of God does not change the unity in the trinity. Blessed is HE that comes in the name of the LORD. "The Father judgeth no man but has committed all judgement unto the Son..John 5:22 . Reject the trinity and you reject the Relationship of the Father to the Son. Not a smart idea.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 6 months ago
i realt dont care what anyone says jesus christ is god
jessellanos787 7 months ago
You're wasting your breath, if anyone truly wanted to learn the truth, they would look for it themselves rather than bug people on the internet. Truth needs no defense, if people wish to ignore it then let them live in ignorance, and just pray for them
kingblake87 8 months ago
Great video. ( = God came as Jesus Christ to pay for the sins of the whole world. By faith in Him, we receive forgiveness of sins, eternal life, the Holy Spirit living in us, God's peace, joy, love, and assurance of eternity in Heaven with Him. Through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ for our sins we are also accepted as children of God and receive God's help in time of need. He is our Savior. ( =
gloryboundkev 10 months ago
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tomland68 11 months ago
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CHRISTIANITY IS A HOAX!
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
tomland68 11 months ago
@tomland68 EXPLAIN exactly how it is. Because you feel it is? The facts would say otherwise. The Eternal Past is one.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 11 months ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter It's a hoax because it tries to pass off the Bible as a historical book when the Bible is just a poorly written book full of contradictions and fallacies.
infox1000 10 months ago
@infox1000 , The Bible has NO contradictions, only shallow thinkers cannot see the depths and vast dimensional wisdom in it. It is living and powerful and many miracles can be created by speaking its words. The prophesies are unsurpassed in exact fulfillment down to the day and time.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@GodsSeer The Bible said that King Nebuchadnezzar would destroy Egypt. That prophecy never happened and there are lots of contradictions. Just look at how Judas was killed.
infox1000 8 months ago
@infox1000, Nebuchadnezzar laid waste the entire country of Egypt. "Migdol to Syene" (verse 6)—that is, Suez to Aswan—denotes, as it did in 29:10, the whole land from north to south. We read about Noph, Pathros and Tehaphnehes in connection with Jeremiah's journey to Egypt in Jeremiah 43-44. Noph (Memphis), Zoan (Tanis), Sin (Pelusium), Aven (On or Heliopolis), Pi Beseth (Bubastis) and Tehaphnehes were in the northern Nile Delta region of Egypt. No, Pathros and Syene the south.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@infox1000 However, this could also refer to destruction meted out over time—by Nebuchadnezzar yes, but also by later invaders. Notice the prophecy of verse 13: "There shall no longer be princes from the land of Egypt." This has been understood to mean that the rulers of Egypt would no longer be native Egyptian. Under Babylonian rule, the pharaoh was subject to the Babylonian emperor.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@GodsSeer Nope it's pretty clear that Nebuchadnezzar would be the one to destroy Egypt and that the Nile would dry up. The first one didn't happen and the second has yet to happen. It's been more than 2000 years. If it meant any Babylonian ruler why does the Bible mention Nebuchadnezzar and why does the Bible never acknowledge that prophecy later on?
infox1000 8 months ago
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@infox1000 , Some prophesies include future events, No prophesy will fail. Nebuchadnezzar laid siege to mainland Tyre three years after the prophecy and after a 13 year siege (585-573 BC) Tyre made terms and acknowledged Babylonian authority over them (4 xxii.452) When Nebuchadnezzar broke the gates down, he found the city almost empty.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@infox1000 ,The majority of the people had moved by ship to an island about 1/2 miles off the coast and fortified a city there. The mainland city was destroyed in 573 BC, as predicted. The verse says; Eze 30:10 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will also make a multitude of Egypt to cease By the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. MULTITUDES DID DIMINISH.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@GodsSeer But it wasn't destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar. His army wasn't strong enough to enter Egypt and like I said the Bible never acknowledges this prophecy later on. Most likely because it never happened.
infox1000 8 months ago
@infox1000 , Does it say it will be destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar? Or does it just say "I will also make a multitude of Egypt to cease By the hand of Nebuchadnezzar''The first prophecy (29:1-16) says that Pharaoh will not succeed in fighting Nebuchadnezzar, and that eventually Babylon will destroy Egypt and leave her desolate for 40 years.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@infox1000 ,The following prophecies (29:17-21; 30:1-19), uttered a little over 16 years later, state that Nebuchadnezzar has finished his 13-year siege of Tyre, and is now coming to fulfill the first prophecy (see Ezekiel 26 for the prediction of the siege of Tyre).In the fourth prophecy (30:20-26), God tells Ezekiel that He has vanquished Pharaoh through Nebuchadnezzar in October of 587 BC. By implication, Nebuchadnezzar is now able to return to Jerusalem and finish the job.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@infox1000 ,The fifth prophecy comes right before the destruction of Jerusalem (31:1-18), in the third month of the lunar year (June, 586 BC). It predicts that Nebuchadnezzar will destroy Egypt as he destroyed Assyria. these oracles against Egypt dovetail with events in Jeremiah. Many Jews fled to Egypt to avoid Nebuchadnezzar. God is telling them that judgment will come upon them in Egypt, and Egypt will be wasted thoroughly. It would be far better to go to Babylon.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@infox1000 ,Amazing how YHVH'S Wisdom is able to HIDE things from mockers and reveal them to His own Children. Moreover, since the destruction of Egypt was postponed for 16 years while Nebuchadnezzar dealt with Tyre and other problems, the Jews in Egypt were allowed a time of false hopes, and possibly of conversion, since Jeremiah was among them.The rest of Ezekiel comes after the destruction of Jerusalem, and we shall come to it in due course.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@infox1000 ,Approximately 2500 prophecies appear in the Bible, about 2000 of which already have been fulfilled to the letter—no errors. (The remaining 500 or so reach into the future.) probability for any one of these prophecies having been fulfilled is less than one in ten (figured very conservatively) and since the prophecies are for the most part independent of one another, the odds for all these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance without erroris 1 with 2000 zeros written after it
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@GodsSeer It's that why you have yet to name one prophecy that has been fulfilled?
infox1000 8 months ago
@infox1000 OK where to start?..Israel scattered, 70 AD EVENT...Returning from those many nations around the world. To Suffer many persecutions while others possessed there land. There trials mirrored CHRISTS suffering. THE TEMPLE destruction exactly as Christ Jesus said "not one stone left upon another". Brick by Brick torn down. After the restoration Israel surrounded on all sides by "people of common belief" that will seek to destroy her. I CHALLENGE YOU to spend some time looking.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 8 months ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter And now Israel is a nation that is illegally occupying other people and forcing those people who leave their homes by bulldozing them. Not to mention the Jews are only doing this because the Bible tells them it's their land so they feel like they have the right to do whatever they want, regradless of what happens to the Arabs. If that's you think Jews illegaly stealing land from others is a prophecy fulfilled then I feel sorry for you.
infox1000 8 months ago
@infox1000 King Nebuchadnezzar conquered Egypt. God used King Nebuchadnezzar to execute judgement on the Egyptians. God also paid King Nebuchadnezzar for this service by giving him the land of Egypt (Ezekiel 29:19,20).
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@infox1000, Now we must return to Jeremiah, and clock the destruction of Jerusalem from his point of view. Then we shall dovetail Ezekiel and Jeremiah together in a chronological chart in order to form a coherent picture of the events of these three years.Nebuchadnezzar laid siege to Jerusalem on the 10th day of the 10th month (roughly January) of 588 BC, which was in the 9th year of Jehoiachin and Zedekiah.
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@infox1000 Nebuchadnezzar captured King Zedekiah. He slew his evil sons before his eyes, and then took him off to Babylon in chains (Jer. 39:4-7). About a month later, the 7th-10th of the 5th month, Nebuzaradan arrived at Jerusalem to burn the Temple and the city. Nebuzaradan took the poor slaves of the city and gave them land in Israel to farm, thus granting the release their Jewish masters had denied them (Jer. 39:10).
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@infox1000 A new capital for Israel was set up a Mizpah, and Gedaliah was made Governor of Judah (2 Ki. 25:22-24). Meanwhile, Jeremiah had mistakenly been rounded up to be deported to Babylon with the rest of the captives (Jer. 40:1; the Book of Lamentations). The God-fearing gentile Nebuzaradan freed him..told him that he can join Ezekiel and Daniel in Babylon, or go serve Gedaliah at Mizpah. Jeremiah chose the latter,Nebuzaradan provided him rations and honored him with a gift (Jer. 40:1-6).
GodsSeer 8 months ago
@GodsSeer So when you don't have the answers you just change the subject. Okay I see how you work.
infox1000 8 months ago
@tomland68 Wrong dude- Follow Jesus my friend, you are being deceived.
JASONANDTRACI 10 months ago
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@tomland68 catholicism and other man made religions are frauds, but Jesus Christ is God who came to pay the penalty for your sins. God spoke everything into existence by His Word, and He holds everything together by His Word. His Word is His promise and Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of His promise. He is God our Savior. He paid the penalty for your sins so that you can know Him and have eternal life. Thank Him today for what He has done for you.
gloryboundkev 10 months ago
AMEN ONE OF THE BEST PUT TOGETHER VIDS ON YOUTUBE
AMEN OUR KING OF KINGS IS SOON TO ARRIVE
PRAISE THE LORD
boogiedanjesusfan 11 months ago
"But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah...out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." Micah 5:2.......the He here is Jesus Christ...the ME here is the Father....(come forth unto me)..... "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool"
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
Compare Joh 1:29 "...John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which TAKETH AWAY THE SIN of the world... 31 And I knew... HE SHOULD BE MADE MANIFEST..." with- 1 Joh 3:1 "Behold... THE FATHER... 5 ...YE KNOW THAT HE WAS MANIFESTED to take away our sins..." How much more clear can it get man?
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 The Greek word Delos means clear, evident, manifest. I thought i would point that out. Also "No man has seen the Father..Literally...They see Jesus Christ who does the Will of the Father therefore they see the Nature of the Father Through the Son not the Father in Glory..
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter They see the literal Physical manifestation of the father in Jesus. This is evidenced by your own reference to the Greek word Delos.
Micah 5:2 is merely stating that the Physical body of Jesus would come out of bethlehem. It also gives reference to his "everlasting" or his infinite existence in that he "always was as Jesus stated in rev 1:8 but if the son came from the father then the Father must be older which isn't the case we see here.
Kinda hard to be older than that.
Twisteddreamer78 11 months ago
Joh 8:19 "Then said they unto him, WHERE IS THY FATHER? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: IF YE HAD KNOWN *ME*, YE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN MY FATHER ALSO... 24 I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS: **FOR IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS**. 25 Then said they unto him, WHO ART THOU? And Jesus saith unto them, EVEN THE SAME THAT I SAID UNTO YOU from the beginning... 27 THEY UNDERSTOOD NOT THAT HE SPAKE TO THEM OF THE FATHER."
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 You left out the important PART...."""I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him"". Father person sent him...the word -HIM- is Father that proceeds the part that they did not understand that he was speaking of the Father....He was no wise trying to say that he was the Father. they simply did not understand the he was Messiah and God Manifested in the flesh.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter I left that out because it provides no additional evidence and is referring to the Physical body of Jesus as evidenced by the above verses.
I gave you verses stating that Jesus created all things and nothing was created except by "HIM" Either he is the one in the creation story or he's lying. I'm not sure about what Allah hates as i have no interest in Allah.....Allah may very well be the Devil or at least a High ranking Demon but that's beside the point.
Twisteddreamer78 11 months ago
If as I proved earlier that Christ was the one that created everything...... In what sense is God the Father, "the Father," if He is not the creator?
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Father Son and Spirit Created in both views. But you choose to hold them into Single Person Mold.
We do never see the Word Jesus/Son nor Father in the Creation Story.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8).
The God was literally telling you right there that he was the same being all through out the bible.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 He (Almighty) is telling us that He is Eternal past present and future. Same as "From everlasting to Everlasting thou art God" or the Greek says "From eternity into the Eternity thou art God"..
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter "he" The "Almighty" is given in example of both Jesus and the old Testament God because they are one and the same. The bible is full of verses wherein Something is stated concerning Jesus only and is also stated of the God (singular) in the old Testament.. Jesus saying he is not the same person.......Where is that in the bible? John 14:23 sounds as if he's referring to the Holy spirit which was to come after and dwell with us....Thought you said they were separate persons?
Twisteddreamer78 11 months ago
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8).
Notice he said "I" am and not "we" are
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
God the Son, but always the Son of God; nowhere God the Holy Spirit, but the spirit of God, or the Holy Spirit. The expressions first person, second person, third person, three persons, are not found. Now if the very words, which are necessary to express the doctrine, are not in the Scriptures, how can we suppose the doctrine itself to be there?
Think!
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
Jesus was fully God and fully man. As man He hungered, thirsted, slept, prayed, bled and died. As God He healed, raised the dead, had control over the elements, forgave sin.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
Most Jews thousands of years ago would NOT accept your view or mine....Genesis.."Let US make man in OUR image and Our likeness". Judaism has NEVER accepted Jesus Christ as any part of God. Ether person or Mode. There Messiah is not a king, lord, savior or worshiped. Most did not even recognize the coming of there Messiah. There was FAR MORE Jews who wanted Jesus Crucified than those who Believed. Jews KILLED there own Prophets. Consistently they missed signs and understandings of scriptures.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
So in Genesis....WHO is speaking to who?
Colossians 2:9 declares, "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily
1 Tim 3:16, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh Gen 1:27, "So God created man in "HIS" own image,
Hebrews 1:2-3, "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Notice...By His Son, Notice WHOM.....He Hath appointed. Does he appoint around in a circle back to himself? Does he apoint to his other namem his other side, other mode, other extension or image or whatever you try to call it? Also did you ever read the verse "The FATHER judges no man BUT has committed all judgement unto the SON.?" It is still a Relationship. Always and Forever. He did NOT beget himself.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Yes I know that verse very well....Dont forget the part where it sys that HE (Jesus) was RECEIVED up in Glory. He was Received.. Does he receive himself? We can try another translation and get the same message. Does he pray to himself? Is the Father well pleased with the Son Mode when the Son mode is being Baptized by John?
Does the SON do his own WILL?
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter
The real question is why do you keep looking for answers when the answer was stated plainly?
You refute the words of God himself and instead look to "circumstances".
Col 2, 8-10 says Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 A God who needs to Act as three is weak. A God who IS three is Powerful. God is not an Actor? He is TRUTH. Satan is the Great Actor/Deciever. "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." Not GOD "I the Lord thy God I change Not"...He Sends the Son. He does not Act out the Son. Jesus Christ also does not change... "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever". Father Son and Spirit are individually mentioned repeatedly through the NT.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter He never acted as 3 and repeatedly stated when asked that there wasn't 3.
You trinitarians like to look at words like US and we to try and prove a point.....It doesn't cut it.
There are multiple explanations for those words being there.....Multiple explanations.
Like I said. father, Son and Holy ghost are titles.....Not names designating people.
What was the name of the Holy spirit again?
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 I really have a hard time talking with someone who cannot even understand basic and simple language terms. Most people in the entire world can pick up ANY Bible and understand it is clearly talking about THREE PERSONS in any language. ANY! I am sitting here debating with some CULT like mentality. this is the sort of logic breakdown i hear from Mormons.. Thinking that they are right and all the rules and rational thinking is thrown out because of a feeling.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter For that matter what is the name of God the father?
I'd also be interested in knowing his role as well as the roles of the son and the holy spirit since the bible is full of all 3 claiming to be the only one that did certain things with explicit passages such as "None other beside me" etc
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 The Name of God the Father is Father.in English of course.. "Our Father which art in Heaven" The Name of Christ is Jesus in English. I do not dare bring up other language names, I dont think your ready for them. The men who formed YOUR BIBLE VERSION believed in Three Persons and translated the Bible as Such. Using Grammatic Rules of the day. You cannot re-write the entire history of Bible Publishing Line. You cannot read it your way and reject those who PRINTED IT.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter If you wanted to compare all the plural references to all the singular references to God in the bible.....The Singular would blow the plural completely out of the water...Why then do you look too plural references as evidence? Especially when God himself states the truth of his singularity on multiple occasions as well as the fact that trinity is not in the Bible anywhere.....You allow yourself to be deceived too easily.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 I gave more references. Why would we need the specific word trinity to be translated into the Bible? The word "Bible" is not in the Bible. Quran IS in the Quran. So what. It is a small word used to combine many words. We could unwrap it into "These Three Persons are One God". The NT names THEM individually on at least a THIRD of its pages, Explain why god acts as multiple persons yet still being one person. You MUST be able to Explain the PURPOSE of it.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter You gave more references?
Seriously?
I haven't even begun to give references because I thought you understood that God the father, Son and spirit used words like I and me and none other than "we" or "us"
If you like I can start listing examples.......
The new testament names the individually?
Where?
I am someones father and can relate to someone else's son, When i have Kids I'll be someone else's father, when i die, i'll be a spirit...But I'll always be me.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Where does The Father, Son or holy spirit ever claim there is three different persons?
Lets start with one example......Ready set....Go!
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Now each of them claiming stuff like "there is only "me" and "i alone" and "I" am the beginning and the ending...Speaking of which....That verse right there debunks Trinitarian ism.....You choose to be deceived.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 "“But I do not seek My glory; there is One who seeks and judges." John 8:50 Son and Father.
.."You heard that I said to you, I go away, and I will come to you. If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I'" John 14:28. What does Jesus do when he gets to the Father? Disappear?
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Do you accept that the Jews worshiped one God and not 3 persons but only one?
if you don't, I suggest you ask a Jew.
That being said, read Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come.
Paul said that he is teaching the same thing that Moses and the prophets taught including 1 God......Your claims debunked again.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 I already said MOST Jews did not even know the hour there Lord did Come. Most do not understand "Let Us make Man in our image and Our likeness Either". But here is another problem with One Person....KJV.."And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou [wilt]. Matthew 26:39 .Clearly there is two offices here. One is always doing the Will of the Other.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.John 5:30 When will the Son of God stop doing the Fathers Will? There are many mystery's of GOD and in Heaven we will understand far more about his Nature than we do today.. But he is in a Relationship. Love. Sharing. Giving. Receiving. Honoring. Before The World was formed.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 Tim 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness : God was manifest in flesh..." Notice that we are told that God and not some separate person of the Godhead was manifest in flesh.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus who,.being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." -Phil 2:5-8 Manifested in Flesh.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus who,.being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." -Phil 2:5-8 Manifested in Flesh. " ...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Again, you're reaching but even in Philip :5-8.....It states that he didn't think it was a robbery to be equal with God.....because he was/is God incarnate.....
John 1:3-4-, "All things came into being by [Christ], and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life; and the life was the light of men." So nothing was created by anything other than God the son?
The Father and Holy spirit let him create everything?
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Heb1..God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;..(By his Son)...whom HE (FATHER)....Father created through the SON...Nothing in either passages to suggest one person. Not at all. I think you assume that GOD being single word must also be One in Person.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter So he "the father" created all things through the Son........Either the father is taking credit for something the son did or the father used the powers of the son to create everything or the father.......is the son as is explicitly stated by God in the old and new testament as well as the prophets in the old and new testament.
there's your answer!
Your next step is to Repent and be baptized in the name of the father (Jesus) and to receive the Gift of the Holy ghost.
Twisteddreamer78 11 months ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter John 8:58--Jesus said, "Before Abraham was born, I am." Jesus appropriated to Himself the name of God, who said, "I am who I am" (Ex. 3:14
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 I know all that... I did make a video proving without a doubt Jesus Christ is GOD incarnate...Did it ever strike you as something interesting when God used I AM three times in a row when he revealed himself to Moses?..here is something very interesting. NT "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool" Matthew 22:44 OT..The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Psalm 110:1
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter It did "occur" to me that God used "i am" 3 times......Sounds like he's refuting the trinity 3 different times in reference to the false doctrine that would come later.
"The Lord" is "my lord" which in itself is a reference to the physical manifestation of God.
In reference to you saying that Jesus Christ created all things as well as has always been in existence.....So in what way is the "father" a father? He didn't create Jesus and he didn't create the world according to u
Twisteddreamer78 11 months ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Colossians 1:15-17--Paul wrote of Christ, "He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation. For in Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created by Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." Christ is the Creator.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Absolutely ...Christ is Creator and he is the Son of God. I am sure he created all things by the will of the Father what do you say?
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Hebrews 1:3--"[Christ] is the radiance of [God's] glory and the exact representation of His nature."
.John 10:38--Jesus said to them, "If I do [the works of the Father], though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father."
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Holy Spirit is in me but we are not the same person. ...JOHN 14"23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me." (-WE- will come unto him) the word you hears is not My (person) own but the Fathers (person) who -SENT- Me...
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 I agree that CHRIST is an exact --representation-- of the Father because he does everything the Father Asks. He tells us that over and over..Islams ALLAH, who is proven without a doubt to be Satan is a single person God. He does not have a Son and Sends no Sacrifice for Sin. He demands worship. Allah is selfish. He hates the Trinity, Hates the Cross, Hates the Blood of Christ. Hates the Relationship of the Father and Son. He hates being obedient to anyone but himself..
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Did the Father come from the womb of Mary? No another person or Yes same person? Did the Father die on the Cross? No another person or Yes same person? Need I go on?
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Yes the father inhabited the body that came from the womb of mary as he himself stated and no the Father didn't die, only the body that was inhabited by the father in order to create the new covenant.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 It also said the the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. I do not understand the scenerio of Jesus Person Overshadowing Mary under the title Holy GHost then entering her womb as that same person to change modes. I also don't doubt the Father was WITH HIM but The Father was also in Heaven Telling the Son what he must do.. The Holy Spirit lives -IN- me and is -WITH- me but I am not The Father.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 It also said the the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. I do not understand the scenario of Jesus Person Overshadowing Mary under the title Holy Ghost then entering her womb as that same person to change modes. I also don't doubt the Father was WITH HIM but The Father was also in Heaven Telling the Son what he must do. The Holy Spirit lives -IN- me and is -WITH- me but I am not The Father.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter The word LORD (all capitals) refers to Yahweh - the Name of the one God of the Old Testament. A prophecy in Isaiah 40:3 (quoted in Matt 3:3,Mark 1:2,Luke 3:4) speaks of John the Baptist as 'the voice of the one crying in the wilderness' whose life mission was to prepare the way of the LORD or Yahweh. We know from scripture that John prepared the way for Jesus. This tells us that Jesus is the LORD or Yahweh Himself - the one true God of the Old Testament come in the flesh.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter John 1:1 says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." and John 1:14 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us..." God and His Word are one just as a man and his word are one. We cannot separate a man from his word and say that they are separate persons. God's Word is God expressing Himself. In the Old Testament God spoke through the mouth of His prophets but when the fullness of time came
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Jesus Christ (GOD) with Father(GOD). Yes One God Yes One Word. IF GOD was one person there would be no need to APPEAR as three persons. No one to love before Creation. Children can read the Bible and by simple logic they understand and see the three persons in the text. Then someone comes along and tries to tell them SORRY. There actually the same person acting like three persons. The Child's learning suddenly comes crashing down into a state of confusion.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter I've also noticed How Children can read in the bible and see where God the father states that is the Son and vice versa and it's clear to them......Even Children realize that the name of the father son and Holy spirit is the same when it's stated to them.....Until of course Someone tries to tell them....SORRY....they really aren't the same person and even though we can't explain how God (singular) suddenly means something else altogether
Twisteddreamer78 11 months ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Acts 19 13Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the LORD Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. 14And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so. 15And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
That's what happens when one speaks without authority as trinitarians do.
the devil is not moved.
Twisteddreamer78 11 months ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter God expressed Himself in flesh in order to make Himself known like never before. If we want to know how God is like we need only to look at Jesus through the things that He said and did. Jesus is the image of the invisible God (Col 1:15
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
Tertullian (160-215) (Adv. Prax. 23; PL 2.156-7) and Origen (185-254) without any controversy. No need to quote them too. Like I said it is a Relationship that you consistently reject. Something that needs to be cured. Either GOD talks to himself for no logical reason or he is in Relationship and thus the Father loves the Son and the Son loves the Father..
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter There are other explanations such as the way of speaking of oneself in ancient Latin as i stated before. It was designated to royalty. There is also the fact that since Jesus was an example, he was acting like one...Go figure right?
The Jews believe in a Single god, Christianity continues where Judaism left off therefore the same being is worshiped. Ask any Jew if there are separate "persons" in the God head and there's your answer.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Look up Monarchians and Modalists and when they were around.
Here's a verse for ya
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6
It calls Jesus the father....As I said....you look for clues when the answers are repeatedly given.
Must be a hard pill to swallow....Want more?
Cya
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 These are titles, creeds about a persons Nature, All Biblical Names had Meanings. What do we do with the other Creeds mentioned in Isaiah 9:6? Some are not in the NT anywhere , It is simply characteristics of the person being mentioned, Bread of Life, Lamb of God, Root and Offspring of David and so on. Page after page In the NT we see the use of "Father and Son and Spirit" exclusively as separate persons. Never "Our Father Jesus" Because GOD is an Eternal Relationship.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Speaking of Titles and creeds.....What is the name of the father and of the Holy Ghost again?
If I had enough room in these comment lines I'd show you about 20 examples of both God the Father and Jesus being the only one doing certain things......Either one of them is lying or they're both the same one
John 14:9
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Cont"
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Simple. Jesus already said he ALWAYS does the will of the Father. When they see what Jesus Says and Does they see what the Father commanded him to do. John 14:31 " the world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me." This is how they have seen the Father. Also is says in another verse "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father". Speaking of seeing the Father in his Glory.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Look up Mark 12:29
The first of all commandments is what again?
"Hear o Israel the lord our God is one......
Check out 1lord1faithdotorg sometime....Everything we've discussed can be found there and a whole lot more.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
Amen!!!!! Great video. Jesus is God.
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boogiedanjesusfan 1 year ago
I am not sure how this video supports the "Trinity" doctrine
haszK 1 year ago
@haszK This video rejects the Trinitarian doctrine
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 This video rejects the Trinitarian doctrine? Really? Please explain how. First of all this video is not directly made to teach the truth about the Trinity. Second the video is all Reliable Biblical Passages. I have Plenty of Biblical passages in mind to make a video that does focus directly on the Trinity. It Might be hard for some to admit three persons exist in the One God but it is Biblical. Three persons and Words like He, Us, We and Our are used often.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Nowhere in the bible is the word trinity used.....All the "evidence" that you use is taken from different circumstances. where you try and put two and two together even while god himself repeatedly tells you there is only ONE God.
You're blind to the truth.
Jesus himself said "I am he" Not I am "one of them"
or "Worship us" .
Father, Son and Holy Ghost are titles....NOT names.
So what is the name of the Holy Spirit?
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Upon birth a man is a son, he then becomes a Father and when he sheds his body he becomes a Spirit......He is still the same person
God The almighty one brought "himself" down to our level in more ways then just 1.... a Video for you watch?v=m_B85kNc36g
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Using mortals to explain GODS substance? 1. while YOU are a Son you have a Father and Mother and possibly a Brother and Sister. 2. When John the Baptist baptized JESUS the Holy Spirit came down upon JESUS in the form of Dove then the Father HIMSELF Spoke from Heaven "This is my beloved SON....."..3. The Son does not know the hour he would receive his BRIDE, but the Father only" (Relates to Jewish Weddings). The Son does not do his own will. (HE HONORS) IN RELATIONSHIP.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Not Gods Substance.....His manifestations.
You left out the rest of that verse....."This is my beloved son "in" whom I am well pleased......There's a reason he didn't say "with" whom. In answer to the other two verses mentioned, There is several possibilities including the original translation but the fact is that Jesus himself stated "I and the father are one.....or "we are the same". Why look elsewhere for the answer when it was already stated plainly?
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 ... JN 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. ..JN 17:20-21 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word..That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: The Apostles are GOD?
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter No, the apostles aren't God...That's even more foolish than Trinitarian beliefs.
If you look up a couple scriptures in John 14, you'll see that Jesus is referring to the Holy spirit which is evidenced in Acts 2 and dwells inside Gods Children after the new covenant is formed. This actually evidences that God the father dwells inside of Jesus the man...You left that part out though because it was convenient for your claims I guess.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter As for 17:20, Jesus is again referring to the Holy Ghost dwelling inside them as per the new covenant which again is pretty obvious if you read the whole chapter. The Holy Ghost would dwell in them as God the father dwelt inside of the garment of flesh that is known as Jesus.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter PS, " The son knoweth not as well as "neither the son knoweth" can also be translated to mean The son can not "make known".
It was customary in Jewish weddings for the father to announce the time of the wedding. The son knew when it would be announced though.
Jesus illustrated that he knew the future several times in the bible.
It stands to reason that he knew when he was coming as well.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Consider this. This Announcement you speak of is when The Father decides when to Reveal THE TIME to send the Son to receive his Bride, NOW the Son knows the Time. Remember Jesus said that he did not come to do his own will but the Fathers Will. Perfect Honor. Even Timing Comes out of the Father then Through the Son who Always done HIS Fathers Will. .GOD said let us make man in our image and our likeness. GOD was already in a RELATIONSHIP. GOD Created Man to need Relationships.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter You're again drawing erroneous conclusions and instead of getting into all of the verses wherein Jesus states that he is the father and Vice versa, (because if you did read the bible you'd know it's full of them....Do yourself a favor and don't ask me to start post those examples) I will say that The creator is infinite but became finite inside of Jesus. I will also say in reference to genesis that the verse in question is likely a latin way of speaking for royalty
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter A simple Google search on the subject will give you several possibilities about who the :us" and we is in Genesis. The Jews believe he was talking to them but regardless, the Jews themselves were/are monotheistic in that they believe in a single God. So you believe that The Son and the holy spirit allowed Jehovah to repeatedly make statements such as..."Cont"
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Cont" Yahweh (YHWH) or Jehovah is the special name given by God for Himself in the Old Testament. It is the name revealed to Moses in Exodus 3:14, when God said, “I am who I am.” While other titles for God may be used of men (adonai [Lord] in Genesis 18:12) or false gods (elohim[gods] in Deuteronomy 6:14), Yahweh is only used to refer to the one true God.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter "Cont" No other person or thing was to be worshiped or served (Ex. 20:5), and HIS name and glory were not to be given to another. Isaiah wrote, “Thus saith Jehovah … "I" am the first, and I am the last; and besides "me" there is no God” (Isa. 44:6 ASV), and, “I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory I will not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images” (42:8 ASV).
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter "Cont" So, the name of God in the Old Testament was exclusive to him. He did not share it with anyone else. How, then, did Jesus refer to himself?
Jesus repeatedly refers to how he was "with God" since the beginning....So you must either state that one of the two is lying or they are the same being.
Do I need to list verses where Jesus "apparently" according to you contradicts the word of YHWH?
Trinitarians came approx 300 years after the birth of Christianity
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 "approx 300 years after the birth of Christianity?" Tertullian taught the Trinity around 200AD less than 170 years after Pentacost. He also said that the teaching that Father Son and Spirit as the same person was Antichrist. Then you have Polycarp (70-155/160). Justin Martyr (100?-165?). Ignatius of Antioch (died 98/117). Irenaeus (115-190). Learned from Polycarp. Origen (185-254). ALL before the council of Nicea. I do not believe on feelings or traditions but facts.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Clement, Ignatius, and Polycarp have all been determined by historians to be Monarchians (Oneness) and not Trinitarians. They never developed any such terminology as "Separate Persons" or Trinity
Polycarp was put to death. Before being executed, the eighty-six-year-old Christian testified that HE WORSHIPPED CHRIST ALONE." (taken from an article on the subject) that also lists several examples of oneness claims from the others as well.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Polycarp
"O Lord God almighty... I bless you and glorify you through the eternal and heavenly high priest Jesus Christ, your beloved Son, through whom be glory to you, with Him and the Holy Spirit, both now and forever" (n. 14, ed. Funk; PG 5.1040).
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Justin Martyr
"For, in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit, they then receive the washing with water" (First Apol., LXI).
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter Never claimed Justin martyr was Oneness....Not sure about him although I believe i heard somewhere that he was one of the fathers of the false doctrine so that makes sense.
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Ignatius
"In Christ Jesus our Lord, by whom and with whom be glory and power to the Father with the Holy Spirit for ever" (n. 7; PG 5.988).
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@NoneBeforeNoneAfter (Ignatius (ca. 107 AD)...Way to misconstrue their quotes with copy and paste.
Several of the quotes are actually from passages in which the 3 I mentioned are stating a Single all powerful being.
I have no idea why you'd post quotes that refute your own statement......I could in turn post several quotes from Copy and paste to prove my point but you've done a pretty good job doing it for me.
Thanks!
Twisteddreamer78 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 .....glory of the Father ‘to gather all things in one,' and to raise up anew all flesh of the whole human race, in order that to Christ Jesus, our Lord, and God, and Savior, and King, according to the will of the invisible Father, ‘every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth, and that every tongue should confess; to him, and that He should execute just judgment towards all...'" (Against Heresies X.l)
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 .....incarnate for our salvation; and in the Holy Spirit, who proclaimed through the prophets the dispensations of God, and the advents, and the birth from a virgin, and the passion, and the resurrection from the dead, and the ascension into heaven in the flesh of the beloved Christ Jesus, our Lord, and His manifestation from heaven in the.....
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
@Twisteddreamer78 Irenaeus Said....."The Church, though dispersed throughout the whole world, even to the ends of the earth, has received from the apostles and their disciples this faith: ...one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them; and in one Christ Jesus, the Son of God, who became......
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
great video!!!! well done
kiwismith1968 1 year ago
EXCELLENT!
5/5
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
amen amen THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FULLY GOD AN FULLY MAN...
HES THE MESSIAH AN HES COMING V V SOON ...BRILLIANT VIDEO!!!!
AWSOME SCRIPTURES!!!!!
BELIVE PEOPLE ...CHRIST IS GOD!!:)
boogiedanjesusfan 1 year ago
Stanley Villavincencio from city of Cebu in Philippines the newest evidence that Jesus is God and he offers his mercy to everyone, and the Lord told Stanley that everybody who refuses his mercy will have to face his judgment and nobody is righteous in front of God, what makes us righteous is Jesus precious blood, and if we are not washed by his blood we are in danger. If we receive Jesus mercy then we are justified before heavenly court, Jesus came on this world to offer his endless mercy.
austriaheute 1 year ago
The Father is the uncreated God, The Son is the uncreated God, The Holy Ghost is the uncreated God. Yet they are not 3 uncreated God's but 1. For there are three that bear record in heaven the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost and these three are one. (How do we know 1 john was not written in latin? people who hate God's true nature like to ignore all manuscripts that are not greek when it comes to 1 john but they are fine doing it with everything else.)
LifeLibertyLove 1 year ago
the trinity is politheism.
lacycek 1 year ago
The response video by (Yuratchka) at point 5:10 in the video he says this.... "Yes, Jesus is a god. yet in verse 9 Therefore God your God, Jesus has a God" He is saying that Jesus is a God but that the Father is the Highest God. Has he read..Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
I have uploaded my rebuttal of this here video of your's. Like I said, this video of your's is weak.
For those who want to see (just in case NoneBeforeNoneAfter doesn't approve my video response) the rebuttal you can find it on my channel in my playlist "Replies To Other Peep's Videos." Or you can do a quick search in the search engine for it, it's called 'RE: Jesus Christ is God Incarnate-Trinity-Three in One'
The link to it is: /watch?v=hhZPJ6iGk38 - You have a nice day.
Yuratchka 1 year ago
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Yuratchka 1 year ago
This video is weak. Some individual pointed me to it from the comment section on my video 'Why Jesus is not the Genuine God' video so I will be making a video response to this video.
You have a nice day.
Yuratchka 1 year ago
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Yuratchka 1 year ago
iSAIAH CHAPTERS 43,44,45......"Ye are my witnesses says the Lord and my servants whom I have chosen that you may Know and Understand and Believe that before me there was NO GOD formed neither shall there be after me"... I am the first, I am the Last, Apart from me ther is no God". ONE GOD..."Let US make man in our image and our likness" Father SPirit Son. Jesussaid... "Before Anraham was I AM"."I and MY FATHER ARE ONE".
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
ITRUTH HURTS but Jesus Christ who is TRUTH can save. Jesus is Judge. Jesus is wqorshiped. Jesus gives life. Jesus has GLORY. Jesus created. Jesus forgives sin. Jesus is from everlasting and from all eternity. Jesus Christ will preser4ve ISRAEL and it will stand at the End of Time. Jesus Christ has life in himself. Jesus Christ has the Power. Emanuel 'God with us". "Mighty God" "Prine of Peace" "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" Rev..."ALMIGHTY"..."First and the Last" of Revleation and Isaiah.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
I Reject the Un-Holy Quran. I reject the False Proiphet Muhammad and I reject allah the False God who derived from the MOON GOD and BAAL. I REJECT the MAHDI who is the Anti-Christ of the BIBLE. I accept the BIBLE and its Holy Prophets. I Reject ISLAMS ISA who is false.. I ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST "The Word Made Flesh" who died on the CROSS for me. Jesus Christ willl JUDGE all men. You will all bow down and say "Jesus Christ is Lord".....No Man comes to the Father without Jesus CHrist.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
If Jesus died for our sins why are Christians still born in sin? We live in this world which is a speck in the system which is a speck in the Milky way which is a speck in the universe, which is a speck in comparison to the throne of God. God the Everlasting became human in a speck in a speck in a speck and died? The creator is one God. The purest and most perfect truth about God is that He is 1. If you loved a man, know that men die. But if you love God know that He is living and cannot die.
clearsunnysky 1 year ago
To believe that the Eternal was temporary, that the Everlasting died, that the Self Sufficient had needs is to ask me to believe two contradictory things. Once Jesus rode on a donkey. Does God ride on a donkey? He saw a fig tree and felt hungry. Does God feel hunger? He came near and saw there were no figs. Was God ignorant? God was man and man was god is the same as saying the square became a circle but was still a square. Intellect does not agree with this. It is a mockery of the one God.
clearsunnysky 1 year ago
AMEN!!!
God IS the ONLY way!!!! :) <3 God(He has been,IS, and ALWAYS will be! :)
targetisdog 1 year ago
How hilarious is Evangelical Christian hypocrisy!
Among all religions on earth, Islam is the only one that tells people to believe in Jesus to love him even though not as a divine being. Yes Evangelical Christians focus their criticism on Islam. Just do you research on youtube you will find how hateful are these people to Islam.
They do not criticize Buddhist, Hindus, animist, Jews even though these religions do not accept Jesus.
I know the reason why! Fear justifies the means!
ArmenFirman01 1 year ago
Jewish Scholars know what Jesus Meant. The Jews back then knew it when Wanted to kill him. They know it today. Without the claims Jesus made the Jews would have accepted Christ as a Prophet . Muslims are TOLD HOW to read the bible. Rather than accepting it for what it is. Take all the passages in this video and read them in any translation, even the Greek! Set aside your pre-conceived notions. Compare his words to anyone. Jesus said.. "Who convinces me of Sin". Well do you?
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago
# Romans 6:23 tells us that, "the wages of sin is death." This death is spiritual separation from God.
# Jesus Christ is God's ONLY provision for man's sin. It is through Jesus alone that we can personally know and experience God's love. Romans 5:8 tells us that, "God demonstrates His own Love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us"
John 14:6 tells us that He is the ONLY way, "Jesus said to Him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life.
Biblewordofgod 1 year ago
Although all men have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. To Be Born Again allows you to enter heaven without the judgement of the law. First we escape the penalty of sin. Then the power of sin. And finally w escape the presence of sin in Heaven forever.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1 year ago