This is obviously a seminar of sorts, and factual info. is discussed, but the student asking questions is hell bent on trying to prove the speaker wrong based on propaganda that he's obviously gotten from TV. This refusal to acknowlege fact is the downfall of our society.
You do not want to know the truth. You came 2 repeat Iran's mullahs lies,Today Iraqis, especially Kurds and Shiites know the truth about Iran's mullahs ,Also the Iranian people today shouting death to Khamenei, and burn pictures of Khomeini al djal
The findings aren't based on some shia pro ayatollah conference report. It's based on humans rights watch and other factual documents gathered years following the genocide. I'm sure but one day iran's mullahs will follow saddam's foot steps to hell. Listen, Iraq is larger than Saddam Hossein and you deserve better.
yes iraq larger than Saddam and Hammurabi and Nebuchadnezzar but they are Iraqi leaders who believed in Iraq, and tried to make a great Iraq. Maybe they made mistakes in places but we the people of Iraq see them great leaders as the greatness Iraq>and we always look forward to leader as Hammurabi and Nebuchadnezzar and Saddam Hussein
humans rights watch is a Soros-funded group. Soros is depicted on the so-called Left, with the US Democratic Party, but we know the Dems and Rethugs are really one party, and we know that Soros is on the board of Carlyle with Poppy Bush, and Soros has been leading "color revolutions" for "democracy" i.e. neo-liberal capital reforms for US banking elites.
HRW has long been a political tool, to demonize Soviets and ignore Israel, for one example. HRW withdrew their findings on 400k mass graves.
This guy is a tool. He hates Bush admin/Republican party so much that he's willing to spread BS. Those Classified informations obviously have no factual bases but only speculations and assertions. Humans rights watch has done years of research and investigation proving Iraq carried out all attacks in Halabja. And Yes, it was a genocide. We forged facts and documents only to blame our enemy at the time (Iran), nor did we want to be seen as a nation which indirectly supported a genocide.
ok This man is lying. What about the Jalal Talabani, which confirmed the presence of Iranians in the Halabja area, and accused Nechirvan,in helping Iranians to enter the Halabja.u can read Talabani's remarks, in "Awene" a kurdish newspaper published in Sulaymaniyah
is that your other argument?!..Really?!...of course there were Iranians not only in Halabja, there were Iranian soldiers fighting along side Kurdish and Arab (shia) in Basra as well. I don't see how this proves your argument that Iran commited a genocide against a kurdish group who happen to be helping persians gain territory inside the Kurdish and Iraqi towns.
Now the Iranian forces bombed Kurdish villages in northern Iraq for what?Iran kills Iraqi fishermen and prevent them from hunting and attack the people of Basra,and killing Shia Arabs in Al-Ahwaz for waht ?for helping persians gain territory inside the Kurdish and Iraqi towns.
Did you listen carefully to what was said by dr Stephen >Research showed that the gas used in Halabja is the cyanide), according to the symptoms of the victims and examining the soil, and this (cyanide) is not owned by Iraq, but Iran, and the gases that Iraq may possess, are either mustard gas (sarin), or nerve gas, and these gases give different symptoms completely, which is less effective than (cyanide)
> This guy is a tool. He hates Bush admin/Republican party
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That's idiotic. It all comes down to Bush Derangement Syndrome according to Krauthammer of PNAC which is the group that wrote Bush's policies long before they even selected him as their front man.
The battle is between DIA/CIA analysts (the supposedly more accurate group vs. politicized or covert ops), vs PNAC, Cheney's Center for Security Plcy, and Doug Feith's Office of Special Plans, hacks w pre-determined policy.
it known to alllll of the observres that Iran purchased GAS from Germany and used it !!
But, US and Mass media used that against Iraq with NO evidences !!! Thanks for this clarification, address to the ignorent... and remeber: Nothing is more dangerus than an ignorant who dos not want to listen !
Many of the testimonies of Holocaust survivors was false, because the Jews wanted to establish their state ,Politicians are willing to lie to achieve their interests, this is also what the Kuwaiti did
who with Talabani and Barzani, and they have special relations with Israel> There are some Kuwaitis believe that the Iraqi army committed a crime against baby in the nursery at the hospital, revealed that these charges were fabricated by a U.S. private company, Search in youtube . Certificate of the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador in u.s.a.
so u think that the Porton Down report is true , Despite the fact that Porton Down is an UK government Laboratory,How can u prove that the soil in which the examination was from Iraq ,and that Iraq has bombed the area of gas, why not the Iranians ?
Remember that Talabani and Barzani have relations with Iran and Israel also,And Iran wants to change the government in Iraq to a Shiite Islamic state, and they believe theBaath party is kafer ,because it`s secular party that ,And Israel had been seen in the Baath Party and President Saddam a threat to its security
If the U.N. changed its report on the Iran-Iraq war for the release of American hostages in Lebanon do not u believe it is capable of fabricating charges against the bombing of Halabja, Iraq
From 5:00 onwards in the video, you can hear Pelletiere say that the study could be phony.
If you want to see actual declassified CIA & State Dept. documents stating that Saddam was using gas against Iranians & "Kurdish insurgents" on an "almost daily basis" check out the links in the video info section of my video:
Rumsfeld meets Saddam - rare version with sound.
there are also links to declassified docs showing the US blocked UN resolutions condemning Saddam's use of gas.
The ONLY evidence that exists that suggests that Iran also used gas at Halabja is the still declassified U.S. DIA document. Which even Stephen Pelletiere (ex CIA) admits that the DIA could have "cooked" it's analysis & could be "phony".
All the other evidence points to Saddam, the soil samples which Portdown Down tested & proved Saddam's guilt, the fact that Iran went to the UN & informed the world about the attacks & that all the independent journalist's reports pointed a finger at Saddam.
and the evidence u have the iraq did gas the kured is a journalist reports and what the irani says , and who is portdon down ? the fact is iran did asked the United States to change the reports of the United Nations, in return for the release of hostages in Lebanon , that what rafsnjani say in b . b. c. not a jouranlist
so the the soil samples which Portdown Down tested and they Found what?
that Northern Iraq bombing with gas ? dah so how did they proved that iraq did it not iran ? did they relied on the what Talabani and Barzani say , they both working with Iran or did the soil samples did?
This is obviously a seminar of sorts, and factual info. is discussed, but the student asking questions is hell bent on trying to prove the speaker wrong based on propaganda that he's obviously gotten from TV. This refusal to acknowlege fact is the downfall of our society.
horrorandmetalfan001 9 months ago
I wonder how that idiot asking the questions feels about him stupid self now?
talon115 1 year ago
You do not want to know the truth. You came 2 repeat Iran's mullahs lies,Today Iraqis, especially Kurds and Shiites know the truth about Iran's mullahs ,Also the Iranian people today shouting death to Khamenei, and burn pictures of Khomeini al djal
vivairaqi 2 years ago
The findings aren't based on some shia pro ayatollah conference report. It's based on humans rights watch and other factual documents gathered years following the genocide. I'm sure but one day iran's mullahs will follow saddam's foot steps to hell. Listen, Iraq is larger than Saddam Hossein and you deserve better.
zizigolou 2 years ago
yes iraq larger than Saddam and Hammurabi and Nebuchadnezzar but they are Iraqi leaders who believed in Iraq, and tried to make a great Iraq. Maybe they made mistakes in places but we the people of Iraq see them great leaders as the greatness Iraq>and we always look forward to leader as Hammurabi and Nebuchadnezzar and Saddam Hussein
vivairaqi 2 years ago
humans rights watch is a Soros-funded group. Soros is depicted on the so-called Left, with the US Democratic Party, but we know the Dems and Rethugs are really one party, and we know that Soros is on the board of Carlyle with Poppy Bush, and Soros has been leading "color revolutions" for "democracy" i.e. neo-liberal capital reforms for US banking elites.
HRW has long been a political tool, to demonize Soviets and ignore Israel, for one example. HRW withdrew their findings on 400k mass graves.
dilbertgeg 2 years ago
This guy is a tool. He hates Bush admin/Republican party so much that he's willing to spread BS. Those Classified informations obviously have no factual bases but only speculations and assertions. Humans rights watch has done years of research and investigation proving Iraq carried out all attacks in Halabja. And Yes, it was a genocide. We forged facts and documents only to blame our enemy at the time (Iran), nor did we want to be seen as a nation which indirectly supported a genocide.
zizigolou 2 years ago
ok This man is lying. What about the Jalal Talabani, which confirmed the presence of Iranians in the Halabja area, and accused Nechirvan,in helping Iranians to enter the Halabja.u can read Talabani's remarks, in "Awene" a kurdish newspaper published in Sulaymaniyah
vivairaqi 2 years ago
is that your other argument?!..Really?!...of course there were Iranians not only in Halabja, there were Iranian soldiers fighting along side Kurdish and Arab (shia) in Basra as well. I don't see how this proves your argument that Iran commited a genocide against a kurdish group who happen to be helping persians gain territory inside the Kurdish and Iraqi towns.
zizigolou 2 years ago
Now the Iranian forces bombed Kurdish villages in northern Iraq for what?Iran kills Iraqi fishermen and prevent them from hunting and attack the people of Basra,and killing Shia Arabs in Al-Ahwaz for waht ?for helping persians gain territory inside the Kurdish and Iraqi towns.
vivairaqi 2 years ago
Did you listen carefully to what was said by dr Stephen >Research showed that the gas used in Halabja is the cyanide), according to the symptoms of the victims and examining the soil, and this (cyanide) is not owned by Iraq, but Iran, and the gases that Iraq may possess, are either mustard gas (sarin), or nerve gas, and these gases give different symptoms completely, which is less effective than (cyanide)
vivairaqi 2 years ago
> This guy is a tool. He hates Bush admin/Republican party
------
That's idiotic. It all comes down to Bush Derangement Syndrome according to Krauthammer of PNAC which is the group that wrote Bush's policies long before they even selected him as their front man.
The battle is between DIA/CIA analysts (the supposedly more accurate group vs. politicized or covert ops), vs PNAC, Cheney's Center for Security Plcy, and Doug Feith's Office of Special Plans, hacks w pre-determined policy.
dilbertgeg 2 years ago
it known to alllll of the observres that Iran purchased GAS from Germany and used it !!
But, US and Mass media used that against Iraq with NO evidences !!! Thanks for this clarification, address to the ignorent... and remeber: Nothing is more dangerus than an ignorant who dos not want to listen !
arabicgelato 2 years ago
Many of the testimonies of Holocaust survivors was false, because the Jews wanted to establish their state ,Politicians are willing to lie to achieve their interests, this is also what the Kuwaiti did
vivairaqi 2 years ago
not all the Kurds say that , only those
who with Talabani and Barzani, and they have special relations with Israel> There are some Kuwaitis believe that the Iraqi army committed a crime against baby in the nursery at the hospital, revealed that these charges were fabricated by a U.S. private company, Search in youtube . Certificate of the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador in u.s.a.
vivairaqi 2 years ago
Porton Down is a British Military Scientific Laboratory.
Look there is a link to the declassified U.S. State Department cable on my video:
Rumsfeld meets Saddam - rare version with sound.
that clearly shows that the U.S. blocked the Iranian UN resolution condemning Saddam's use of gas in 1984. GO & READ IT.
Then read the other link, showing that America knew Saddam was using gas BEFORE THIS.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago 3
so u think that the Porton Down report is true , Despite the fact that Porton Down is an UK government Laboratory,How can u prove that the soil in which the examination was from Iraq ,and that Iraq has bombed the area of gas, why not the Iranians ?
vivairaqi 2 years ago
Remember that Talabani and Barzani have relations with Iran and Israel also,And Iran wants to change the government in Iraq to a Shiite Islamic state, and they believe theBaath party is kafer ,because it`s secular party that ,And Israel had been seen in the Baath Party and President Saddam a threat to its security
vivairaqi 2 years ago
If the U.N. changed its report on the Iran-Iraq war for the release of American hostages in Lebanon do not u believe it is capable of fabricating charges against the bombing of Halabja, Iraq
vivairaqi 2 years ago
From 5:00 onwards in the video, you can hear Pelletiere say that the study could be phony.
If you want to see actual declassified CIA & State Dept. documents stating that Saddam was using gas against Iranians & "Kurdish insurgents" on an "almost daily basis" check out the links in the video info section of my video:
Rumsfeld meets Saddam - rare version with sound.
there are also links to declassified docs showing the US blocked UN resolutions condemning Saddam's use of gas.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago 2
but it is not phony We know who used the gas against our people ,iran did
vivairaqi 2 years ago
The ONLY evidence that exists that suggests that Iran also used gas at Halabja is the still declassified U.S. DIA document. Which even Stephen Pelletiere (ex CIA) admits that the DIA could have "cooked" it's analysis & could be "phony".
All the other evidence points to Saddam, the soil samples which Portdown Down tested & proved Saddam's guilt, the fact that Iran went to the UN & informed the world about the attacks & that all the independent journalist's reports pointed a finger at Saddam.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago 2
and the evidence u have the iraq did gas the kured is a journalist reports and what the irani says , and who is portdon down ? the fact is iran did asked the United States to change the reports of the United Nations, in return for the release of hostages in Lebanon , that what rafsnjani say in b . b. c. not a jouranlist
vivairaqi 2 years ago
so the the soil samples which Portdown Down tested and they Found what?
that Northern Iraq bombing with gas ? dah so how did they proved that iraq did it not iran ? did they relied on the what Talabani and Barzani say , they both working with Iran or did the soil samples did?
vivairaqi 2 years ago