Belle performance :) Il respecte bien le tempo, et surtout les voix non vibrés, c'est important pour une représentation qui ne gâche pas l'aspect de la Renaissance !
A very good interpretation musically. Alas, their pronunciation of French is a bit too "British sounding" to the ears of a native French speaker (which I am). I by far prefer the rendering of the Ensemble Clément Janequin.
Heard them perform this last week in Boston - so accomplished, so humorous, just gorgeous. Their new bass Jonathan Howard (not the guy in this video) in particular has an utterly remarkable voice.
@akacentimetre you've gotten the chance to see johnny live??? you lucky soul you... how impressive was he, scale of 1-10? i hate to put you on the spot like that, but i must know.
@kingssingersgirl Sorry for the late reply! I never saw Stephen Connolly live so I can't compare them or put a number on Johnny per se, but put it this way: my family is incredibly musical, my parents sang madrigals, and I'm in a period music group, and within two pieces at the concert we saw we were turning to each other and mouthing 'Wow, that bass!'. I'm not sure I've ever heard a low voice providing such a strong foundation and being simultaneously so resonant. Very impressive indeed!
@akacentimetre oh ok! sounds great! i'm kind of the opposite of you. i've seen stephen in concert, but not johnny, so i'm anxious to compare the two. not saying compare in a bad way, you know what i mean.
@akacentimetre I must say Johnny is a very good bass singer from what I hear on YT, but I have to admit that Stephen was slightly better (also compared to YT vids. Never heard Johnny live, so it would be unfair to base my opinion between live singing and YT). Maybe it's because Stephen was older, and often at higher age male voices will go lower (not always of course, like Davd ;)) and/or the quality gets better.
But Johnny is a worthy succesor to Stephen. Can't wait to see him perform live.
Wether it's pronounced well or not, this performance shows exactly what the story behing this song is. The fighting, the fleeing and at last the victory. Great performance
These sing this so well that it makes it really difficult for anyone else to ever want to tackle it. The tempos are wonderful but faster than most can execute. Bravo king singers!! I like the comment further down that Jannequin would have bowed before such a performance which probably exceeded his wildest expectations.
@red6352 Nope, the fifth voice in fact was written by Verdelot, and that's the version they're doing. The two countertenors are singing in unison most of the time
I agree with the person who commented that this is the best batch of KS ever! I totally agree, and I have been following them for over 30 years. This bunch is just superb in every way. I'm dreading losing Robin and Stephen, and I hope David, who I think is the most wonderful countertenor on the planet, stays in the group for many more years. I'm so grateful to have their DVD "Byrd to Beatles" so I can continue to enjoy this best of the best KS line-up. Perfection!
Absolutely wonderful ! It's as good as the Ensemble Clément Janequin's interpretation. The pronunciation is very good, one could even think the KS are French !
@seamusfinnigan2000 they've clearly just prepared the slightly odd major perfect cadence at 4:02 and made the triad major rather than minor. Could be a print error or typo, or it could be a deliberate change in the harmony... however it hardly sounds like a mistake to those of us who've not heard it before, so thanks for pointing that out and making me listen out for it!
@jdp2606 now that i play that part again, i hardly can find the flaw -_- they sang it perfectly. the tenor hit "Bb" alright. and the correct notes are C'-Bb-A-C', not C'-Bb-A-G like i said before. what the hell. i was such a douche back then.. lol
There are not words enough to say how this rendition is great and imaginative. The pronunciation is quite right and respectful of the french renaissance uses. Even for french people it is intelligible.Ten thousand times Bravo.
@red6352 i kinda like it as they pronounce it, since the swiss mercenaries would probably have the same ("bii Gott" is perfectly correct Swiss German, especially in the old Cantons) :)
but i guess it depends on whether or not one wants to interpret "toute frelore bigot" as a mock-form of Swiss German^^
@red6352 Not at all, The last words must be pronounced "Bei Gott" because the Marignan battle (Milan suburb, Italy) occured between french king François the first army and Austria Emperor Charles the fifth army including german soldiers (reîtres). In this polyphonic song there were those german soldiers declaring the defeat with the sentence "tout est ferlore bei Gott"
@frenchiecocorico1 Yes, it's in French, but it's an ancient French, and they have a british accent. It's intelligible, but, for French people it's hard to understand.
Sorry for my bad English but I'm French and I don't speak English well (It's my favourite subject at school, so, I'm learning :D)
@RafkowzZ Je suis français aussi. C'est vrai, ils ont un restant d'accent anglais et la prononciation de l'ancien français ne suit pas tout à fait celle qui est préconisée par les recherches récentes, mais pour des anglais la performance est tout de même assez remarquable pour être saluée.
Ne devrait-on pas prononcer le "S" dans "escoutez" ? Je crois que dans l'ancien français, les consonnes étaient toutes prononcées. En tout cas, c'est magnifique.
It seems to me that "viktoèr" is closer to the correct pronounciation. It is a bit how some older people pronounce that word in french canadian Québec where the spoken french is very close to the renaissance french. But is is only an opinion.
@cyberax51 I guess that this is the prononciation of the old French.. It is quite impossible for the King's singers to be wrong in the prononciations!! But I am not sure..
I listened them singing Cyrillus Kreek, an Estonian composer. I am Estonian. I could not understand a word they sang. So, I guess the melody is more important.
This is the best batch of the King's Singers. I love them. I have their DVD Concert Performance "From Byrd to Beatles" and I should say they did a magnificent show. Very entertaining, too.
me gusta mucho más la versión de los KS de los 80, era mucho más viva, menos mecánica, más sentida, se metían totalmente y es como que vivían lo que cantaban. Estos están como leyendo correctamente una partitura, nada más.
Spectacular singing, these guys are the best singers i ever heard (and i heard a lot). Simply how they flow harmoniously with the music, and it felt as if this is exactly how Janequin wanted it to be.
Fantastico,de los que he escuchado lo mejor,para mí gran referencia de estudio para el proximo concierto a celebrar en Sevilla en junio por la SOCIEDAD MUSICAL DE SEVILLA
Qui ici, doit l'apprendre pou les cours, comme moi?
RafkowzZ 2 weeks ago
和聲簡單但結構複雜
gr4l9um20b7o 2 weeks ago
I thought my All-State pieces were hard.
jesseuhhyeah 3 weeks ago
Belle performance :) Il respecte bien le tempo, et surtout les voix non vibrés, c'est important pour une représentation qui ne gâche pas l'aspect de la Renaissance !
wolfhopeless 1 month ago
c telmen pourri jlapren en cour xd
teamNYAdu6z 1 month ago
@teamNYAdu6z en musique !
49avalon 1 month ago
I allways listen music of king singers between two study moments, in al little break. And I love this number most of all ♥♥♥
jolande100789 3 months ago
A very good interpretation musically. Alas, their pronunciation of French is a bit too "British sounding" to the ears of a native French speaker (which I am). I by far prefer the rendering of the Ensemble Clément Janequin.
Flixypoo 4 months ago
I love this rendition. I hope to see them in concert sometime!
medivalmusic 6 months ago
"Victoire! Victoire!" "Tute felore begot!" Simply wonderfull... I love this music *___*
gattusaurus93 7 months ago
Heard them perform this last week in Boston - so accomplished, so humorous, just gorgeous. Their new bass Jonathan Howard (not the guy in this video) in particular has an utterly remarkable voice.
akacentimetre 8 months ago
@akacentimetre you've gotten the chance to see johnny live??? you lucky soul you... how impressive was he, scale of 1-10? i hate to put you on the spot like that, but i must know.
kingssingersgirl 7 months ago
@kingssingersgirl Sorry for the late reply! I never saw Stephen Connolly live so I can't compare them or put a number on Johnny per se, but put it this way: my family is incredibly musical, my parents sang madrigals, and I'm in a period music group, and within two pieces at the concert we saw we were turning to each other and mouthing 'Wow, that bass!'. I'm not sure I've ever heard a low voice providing such a strong foundation and being simultaneously so resonant. Very impressive indeed!
akacentimetre 6 months ago
@akacentimetre oh ok! sounds great! i'm kind of the opposite of you. i've seen stephen in concert, but not johnny, so i'm anxious to compare the two. not saying compare in a bad way, you know what i mean.
kingssingersgirl 6 months ago
@akacentimetre I must say Johnny is a very good bass singer from what I hear on YT, but I have to admit that Stephen was slightly better (also compared to YT vids. Never heard Johnny live, so it would be unfair to base my opinion between live singing and YT). Maybe it's because Stephen was older, and often at higher age male voices will go lower (not always of course, like Davd ;)) and/or the quality gets better.
But Johnny is a worthy succesor to Stephen. Can't wait to see him perform live.
Mark26111984 5 months ago
Wether it's pronounced well or not, this performance shows exactly what the story behing this song is. The fighting, the fleeing and at last the victory. Great performance
Mark26111984 8 months ago
wow. I love the playful deliverance
metonymyed 9 months ago
i always love the end section, beginning with chris's entrance at 5:55. it always gives me chills.
kingssingersgirl 10 months ago 2
@kingssingersgirl Certainly! Although I do prefer Paul Phoenix's part (maybe because that is the part I'd have to sing too).
arqueologo 10 months ago
@arqueologo oh really? have you sung the song before?
kingssingersgirl 10 months ago
@kingssingersgirl Not in full and all together, sadly!
arqueologo 10 months ago
Does anybody else, like me, want to love the music, and not really care about how they pronounce each individual word!
bigjdc 10 months ago 6
please I need english or polish translation urgently!!
borowskiadam 11 months ago
They make it look so easy!
aslanssong100 1 year ago
Amazing
goldgretch 1 year ago
These sing this so well that it makes it really difficult for anyone else to ever want to tackle it. The tempos are wonderful but faster than most can execute. Bravo king singers!! I like the comment further down that Jannequin would have bowed before such a performance which probably exceeded his wildest expectations.
mtierra 1 year ago
WONDERFULL!!!!!!!!!!
gattusaurus93 1 year ago
Excellente reconstitution de la prononciation du français du XVIe siècle.
MrQuebec 1 year ago
Has the sixth voice been written by Janequin?
red6352 1 year ago
@red6352 Nope, the fifth voice in fact was written by Verdelot, and that's the version they're doing. The two countertenors are singing in unison most of the time
tenor9216 7 months ago
D'aucuns trouve cette pièce brutale, je les invite à écouter de la musique techno s"ils sont incapables de nuancer leurs propos
52office 1 year ago
brutal
locurainside 1 year ago
Jannequin would have bowed in front of such a performance, but I think he thought it to be a bit more solemn...you know the King in those times...
oiznas 1 year ago
Those extra kilos suit the bass :p
Guichotpresident 1 year ago
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This is very fascinating. (:
We are going to be singing this song in my choir at school.
I'm really excited!
ruhruhryanne 1 year ago
This is very fascinating. (:
We are going to be singing this song in my choir at school.
I'm really excited!
ruhruhryanne 1 year ago
I agree with the person who commented that this is the best batch of KS ever! I totally agree, and I have been following them for over 30 years. This bunch is just superb in every way. I'm dreading losing Robin and Stephen, and I hope David, who I think is the most wonderful countertenor on the planet, stays in the group for many more years. I'm so grateful to have their DVD "Byrd to Beatles" so I can continue to enjoy this best of the best KS line-up. Perfection!
divaskater 1 year ago
Absolutely wonderful ! It's as good as the Ensemble Clément Janequin's interpretation. The pronunciation is very good, one could even think the KS are French !
indisciplinekc 1 year ago
perfect
tiagothefrog 1 year ago
VICTOèRE WèW !! WONDERRRFFFUUULLL
nonnopirro52 1 year ago
3:47 when the tenor sang, "les-COM-pai-gnons" the 'com' was supposed to be B flat.. but instead he hit B..
so it goes "C'-B-A-G", while the correct notes are "C'-Bb-A-G"
gosh how lame am i?? if i know it too well, maybe i should get a life -_-
its because i adore this piece so much.. janequins the best!
and still, king's singers are the best. tee-hee. love 'em so much! :D
seamusfinnigan2000 1 year ago
@seamusfinnigan2000 they've clearly just prepared the slightly odd major perfect cadence at 4:02 and made the triad major rather than minor. Could be a print error or typo, or it could be a deliberate change in the harmony... however it hardly sounds like a mistake to those of us who've not heard it before, so thanks for pointing that out and making me listen out for it!
jdp2606 1 year ago
@jdp2606 now that i play that part again, i hardly can find the flaw -_- they sang it perfectly. the tenor hit "Bb" alright. and the correct notes are C'-Bb-A-C', not C'-Bb-A-G like i said before. what the hell. i was such a douche back then.. lol
anywho, King's Singers FTW :)
seamusfinnigan2000 1 year ago
Great, nice, beautiful! I love it!
lolaterdu83 1 year ago
Ils portent bien leur nom ,les" rois des chanteurs "*****Very nice work
glaoud 2 years ago 2
@glaoud Ils portent bien leur nom... mais, pourtant s c'est: "les chanteurs du roi", mon ami.
elebecepe 2 years ago
Oups ! My English is bad . J.C.
glaoud 2 years ago
There are not words enough to say how this rendition is great and imaginative. The pronunciation is quite right and respectful of the french renaissance uses. Even for french people it is intelligible.Ten thousand times Bravo.
frenchiecocorico1 2 years ago 17
@frenchiecocorico1 except at the end "toute frelore bigot" which must be prounonced as "by God"
red6352 1 year ago
@red6352 i kinda like it as they pronounce it, since the swiss mercenaries would probably have the same ("bii Gott" is perfectly correct Swiss German, especially in the old Cantons) :)
but i guess it depends on whether or not one wants to interpret "toute frelore bigot" as a mock-form of Swiss German^^
BlackjackCaptain 1 year ago
@red6352 Not at all, The last words must be pronounced "Bei Gott" because the Marignan battle (Milan suburb, Italy) occured between french king François the first army and Austria Emperor Charles the fifth army including german soldiers (reîtres). In this polyphonic song there were those german soldiers declaring the defeat with the sentence "tout est ferlore bei Gott"
frenchiecocorico1 1 year ago
@frenchiecocorico1 Yes, it's in French, but it's an ancient French, and they have a british accent. It's intelligible, but, for French people it's hard to understand.
Sorry for my bad English but I'm French and I don't speak English well (It's my favourite subject at school, so, I'm learning :D)
RafkowzZ 2 weeks ago
@RafkowzZ Je suis français aussi. C'est vrai, ils ont un restant d'accent anglais et la prononciation de l'ancien français ne suit pas tout à fait celle qui est préconisée par les recherches récentes, mais pour des anglais la performance est tout de même assez remarquable pour être saluée.
frenchiecocorico1 2 weeks ago
@frenchiecocorico1 Tout a fait!
RafkowzZ 2 weeks ago
I absolutely adore this group ^_^
The interpretation, sound and facial expressions... priceless!!
I'll miss Robin Tyson but I understand the new counter tenor is awesome! What else can I say, KS is total awesomeness!!
songbird0001 2 years ago 4
Ne devrait-on pas prononcer le "S" dans "escoutez" ? Je crois que dans l'ancien français, les consonnes étaient toutes prononcées. En tout cas, c'est magnifique.
Faardrill 2 years ago
What?
Pudersepp 2 years ago
It seems to me that "viktoèr" is closer to the correct pronounciation. It is a bit how some older people pronounce that word in french canadian Québec where the spoken french is very close to the renaissance french. But is is only an opinion.
andrediane 2 years ago 2
@andrediane "viktoèr" is the correct pronounciation (for old french of course) so they are right =)
jbcraipeau 1 year ago
a total mispronounciation on the "Victoire!" word,
it should sound "viktoarh" rather than "viktoer".
anyway, listening them made me feel like I were
on Janequin's ages. great job guys, see ya in
Paris next January :)
cyberax51 2 years ago
@cyberax51 I guess that this is the prononciation of the old French.. It is quite impossible for the King's singers to be wrong in the prononciations!! But I am not sure..
danimartins85 2 years ago 4
I listened them singing Cyrillus Kreek, an Estonian composer. I am Estonian. I could not understand a word they sang. So, I guess the melody is more important.
Pudersepp 2 years ago
Nah, in ancient french, you pronounce 'Victoire' as 'Victouère' and not as the today french 'Victouare'.
It's the same thing in Josquin Desprez works : 'Moy' (= moi = me), that you pronounce 'mo(u)é' and not 'moa', like nowadays.
RaphaelLanguillat 2 years ago
This is the best batch of the King's Singers. I love them. I have their DVD Concert Performance "From Byrd to Beatles" and I should say they did a magnificent show. Very entertaining, too.
erciasico 2 years ago 4
This concert is also awaylable on Dvd. "The KIng's Singers at the BBC Proms" or some like that. Hope this is a useful information. ;)
Astraios91 2 years ago
me gusta mucho más la versión de los KS de los 80, era mucho más viva, menos mecánica, más sentida, se metían totalmente y es como que vivían lo que cantaban. Estos están como leyendo correctamente una partitura, nada más.
barbarabarbi 2 years ago
@barbarabarbi With regret, because I love the current KS, I agree with you.. The album "Madrigal History Tour" is a real masterpiece..
danimartins85 2 years ago
It's interesting to listen to this King's Singers compared to the one from the late 70s/early 80's.
mauz80 2 years ago 2
Pas mal du tout, mais pourquoi faire du 1 par voix sauf pour le supérius... Un tout petit peu de changements de tactus à mon goût.
tralala58 2 years ago
Spectacular singing, these guys are the best singers i ever heard (and i heard a lot). Simply how they flow harmoniously with the music, and it felt as if this is exactly how Janequin wanted it to be.
They perfected this song. Thanks for posting...
Avericum 2 years ago 22
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d'accord c'est peut etre difficile a faire mais sa n'empeche que c'est quand meme de la merde.
coco27340 2 years ago
Fantastico,de los que he escuchado lo mejor,para mí gran referencia de estudio para el proximo concierto a celebrar en Sevilla en junio por la SOCIEDAD MUSICAL DE SEVILLA
Salvadomifa 2 years ago
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Atenearq07 2 years ago
coco27340....soit tu connais rien dutout soit tu es un genre de puriste fini qui diras que c pourris même si c très bien. Très belle interprétation!!
defvader23 2 years ago 2
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c'est trop de la merde!!!!
Jen reviens pas
coco27340 2 years ago
pourquoi tu dis ça ??? essaye de chanter une seule des parties du début à la fin et tu verras que c'est pas des nases...
jibcraip 2 years ago 2
toi tu t'y connais en musique c'Est sur en criss mon gars (sarcasme si vous l'Avez pas décelé)
je le chante présentement, pis je t'assure c'est tres dur, surtout à leur vitesse, fak réfléchis avant de juger!!
jocly12 2 years ago
WOW! I love this song and how they performed this song! Amazing!
eltrompo83 2 years ago
this is nice..please post il est bel et bon
rametep100 3 years ago
great interpretations...I love your french accent :-)
jibcraip 3 years ago