Star Trek: Borg Space

[henkman00]

Janeway: 'I'll be in my ready room''

Chakotay: ''what are you going to do?''

Janeway: 'aside from crying in silents, and seriously panicking. i am going to call the help of Chuck Norris!''

Chakotay: ''Chuck Norris? are you serious?''

Janeway: ''dude, 15 Borg cubes!''

:P

[TheSlapdown]

WOW, O' No, it's the BORG!!! AGAIN, in another episode of voyager, this show ruined the Borg!

[ShadowSonic2]

@TheSlapdown Oh, no it didn't. The Borg just didn't kill tons of people in VOY like they did in TNG (how could they? All VOY had was one ship).

[himvalo666]

Voyager really cheapened the Borg. In TNG, one Cube was able to bust through an armada of ships and the Enterprise was barely able to survive its encounters with it. Here is Voyager, a long range ship 70,000 light years from resupply and using makeshift sources to keep going and they can hold their own against Cubes and Spheres. Borg were terrifying in TNG, here they're just another malevolent species like the Klingons

[ShadowSonic2]

@himvalo666 That's a lie, VOY never took on the Borg like that until "Endgame". Up till then they always just managed to escape, or the Borg had already been damaged beforehand by something else.

[miloootic]

@himvalo666 what r u babling about? im certain u never watched voyager. they always got their ass kicked by the borg.

[TheSlapdown]

@himvalo666 That's because Voyager was rubbish!

[HumpsBlowdoll]

Ensign Kim should have been called 'Pork William'

[TheSlapdown]

@HumpsBlowdoll Before being shot dead!

[Freddran]

Is it only me or in VOyager cubes look smaller... ?

[miloootic]

@Freddran same size but the cubes tht were encountered in endgame inside the nebula are smaller.

[Freddran]

lol, "enclip thoughts...." 

[kohstamojahn]

2:05 "I'll be in my ready room..." having a DRINK

[RomulusAaron]

This is why i hate voyager. They made the borg beatable. You cannot run from the borg, nor can you defeat the borg. Voyager made the Borg beatable.

[Lizfan2]

@RomulusAaron The Borg were defeated more than once on TNG & in the movie "First Contact". It was just a lot harder in those than it was in Voyager.

[niuchemist]

@RomulusAaron I particularly hated Janeway and the Borg Queen's little verbal "exchange" in a later season, as if somehow they were on equal footing. As if Voyager could put up any meaningful resistance if the Borg wanted to assimilate them.

[Scratch47]

I always thought after 'I, Borg' on TNG, the Borg started getting diluted. The idea of having your individuality and emotion wiped clean whilst you were still in your body is utterly terrifying, but never truly exploited after the Locutus debacle. Voyager just made them cartoonish. One of the great travesties of Trek.

[mummra4ever]

I never thought anything in TNG ruined or diluted the Borg in any way. They unlike with Voyager had the right idea of not overusing the Borg and trying to do another Best of Both Worlds. Because they knew that bringing them back and constantly losing would make the Borg seem weak. So they just did something different with "I Borg" and "Descent" exploring the idea of Borg drones becoming separate from the collective and gaining a sense of individuality and therefore aren't really Borg anymore.

[DOOMVSHALO]

well thank god they weren't fused tactical borg cubes because i think must men would probably die inside

[ElensarFFXI]

@DOOMVSHALO The fused cubes were a crappy idea from armada II computer game. Thank god they never apeared in the show voyager ruined the borg enough as it is. :)

[DOOMVSHALO]

@ElensarFFXI umm no because the borg was one of the best part of the series

[ElensarFFXI]

@DOOMVSHALO Voyager diluted the borg into a farce and by the time voyager was finished they barely seemed like a threat at all. They had some nice looking battles but from a story perspective the voyager series made a total joke out of the borg.

[ShadowSonic2]

@ElensarFFXI Let me guess, you hate the 8472 for being able to fight the borg at all right? No one could handle the idea of ANY alien species being able to fight the Borg and win?

[ElensarFFXI]

@ShadowSonic2 The 8472 Scorpian episodes were good, The borg stories that followed however were disapointing. I would have liked to have seen more from 8472 but sadly the few times we saw them after Scorpian part 1 and 2 it was also a disapointment.

[SuperWario094]

i never really liked voyager too much. The next generation and the original series will always be #1.

[ElensarFFXI]

15 borg vessels shields to maximum stand by all weapons!!!! *crew looks at each other* lol wut

[krashly71]

@ElensarFFXI I think when they announce 15 cubes you go find the hottest chick, get her in the turbolift, and go out with style....

[Rosiilee]

attack of the sugar cubes. this is what happened when q decided to make voyager the size of a particle.. and through it into sugared tea.

[beerasaurus]

jesus

[hopebgood]

Loved Voyager! Still do.

[Sydlebe]

^_^ When they're being scanned by the book, Janeway states dryly, "Think good thoughts."

I've always found that rather amusing.

[BoydofZINJ]

I was rewatching some episodes of DS9 and Voyager. When a few Borg Vessels passed near Voyager, the Turbulence caused them to get out of warp. Likewise, all the FLEET battles never happened in warp - but impulse speed. Remember Sacrifice of Angels. I always wondered, why did the Federation fleet not split apart into several directions and RAN like **** to DS9 to blow up the MINES. Evidently, it is hard to produce a stable warp field with enemy ships near by?

[mikeylikesit100]

Oh, and one more thing, I know I'll probably have people with pitchforks at my door for saying this, but I really could have done without Seven of Nine. I feel like they added her to the cast because they thought that having an attractive female on the show would up their rateings, and they were right. And also if they made her a Borg, they'd then have an excuse to keep using the Borg throughout the show and mention them. Thus rapeing what was THE greatest Star Trek villian.

[homokladin]

I agree, but I would miss her. Only one thing. Borg wasn't the greatest Star Trek villain, but just the greatest villain. EVER. If you don't agree, name one better.

[ldf8u]

@homokladin This. Very much so! I was telling a friend this just the other day lol. The greatest villains are the most intelligent. But what's more are villains willing to work together to accomplish a goal. The Borg are the epitome of this very idea, not only working together with the power of a hive mind, but recognizing the potential of other species and technology. It's such a great and unique concept. Especially since most villains are either idiots or killing henchman unnecessarily.

[tysontwenty]

@homokladin The Daleks!

[Alfrunk]

Just because she had a super tight spandex 'uniform' that no other starfleet member has EVER worn, doesn't mean she was just eye candy.

[mikeylikesit100]

I don't think having the queen in 'First Contact' was the problem. I rather liked the queen, and I don't think she humanized the borg at all. She was simply the embodyment of the collective and is a tool for them when interacting with lifeforms they can't assimilate. Like Data for instance. The only reason we saw her was because the Borg needed the Enterprise codes which only Data had, and since they couldn't just assimilate him, she was used to sort of manipulate him and apeal to his desire...

[mikeylikesit100]

to become a human. She doesn't necissarily have emotions, and it is never actually revealed in the film whether she is the mastermind imposing her will upon the drones, or whether it is the other way around. I thought the Borg were never better than they were in 'First Contact', but I think Voyager is what kind of ruined the Borg. The mistake they made was A.) overuseing them, and B.) explaining and revealing everything about them. I mean seriously, by the 4th season they couldn't go one episode

[mikeylikesit100]

without mentioning the Borg in some fashion, and they lost their mistique. One of the great things about the borg were that they were mysterious, you didn't really know what led them to become what they are, and their only motive was to either enlsave or destroy everything in their path and obtain technology through assimilation. And they were creepy as hell, but beyond that we knew nothing about them. 'Dark Frontier', 'Unimatrix Zero' and 'Endgame' were complete embarrassments to the Borg.

[JimbobHarrigan]

in the destiny novels the borg send 7,000 cube to assimilate the federation

[homokladin]

I'd put them to sleep and then destroy them one by one.

[orlendatube]

Thanks for posting this-one of my fave borg scenes! Kinda a "oh crap!" moment...

[IMDARKFIRE007]

voyager had good episodes and first contact was great, but they murdered the borg after the best of both worlds. trying to humanize them, making them negotiable with janeway and the creation of a queen. remember the TERROR when picard said "we have engaged the borg"? thats gone now, they arent as intimidating now. first contact for instance, wanna tell me how the cube didnt adapt and repair in a prolonged battle? they WERE the scariest force, but no more. now we have lovable hue god help us.

[Ustra]

I think the real problem isn´t the humanization but rather the down-powering they went through. When they started out the Borg they were this vastly superior threat. Later on Starfleet just kept outsmarting them using the same method over and over. How many bloody times do they have to use the collective connection against them before the Borg do what they were once feared for: adapting? Plus there is just no explanation for why the Borg don´t just send like 15 cubes to earth instead of one.

[chakotay2007]

maybe its just me and there may be an explination ... but they are in space ... were there is no air ! so when all the borg ships passed voyager why was it swaying about as if it was caught in a gust of wind ??

[ApokC]

lol i bet at that time Voyager wished they had some type of cloaking device to hide themselves.

[WUZLE]

A *sane* captain would have said "This seems like a good reason to go back the way we came before those cubes decided to pay attention to us after all." But sanity was never Janeway's strong suit.

[GeraldRobotnik]

Just noticed... some of the LCARS-screens were still in Red-alert-color-scheme despite them not being in condition red anymore. o.o

[discovery2245]

This is the episode where the borg tried to assimilate spicies 8472 and got their ass kicked.Species 8472 was so biologically advanced the borg implants wouldn't take.And what the borg can't assimilate they can't defeat.

[ApokC]

The species 8472 are awesome,they can combine 8 bioships to make a planet killer!

Why didn't Voyager try to allie with the Species 8472?

[BioCapsule]

actually they did attempt to start diplomatic relation during one of the later episode... Species 8472 made no promises since they don't quite trust people from this space... but there remains hope...

[CryoStatus]

Noope, There was no hope because they said: WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY THIS GALAXY or dimension or something, IT IS UNPURE.

No diplomacy. X_X

[chicagomarchingbands]

Since the borg invaded their space, 8472 decided that all species of the that quardrant and the other 3 were evil and was going to wage a war starting with the borg. They were the bigger threat so Janeway allied with the borg...who stabbed her in the back at the end lmao

[animeownage86]

The last episode in season three of Star Trek: Voyager it's called Scorpion Part 1

[Knightsofwar210]

That is so ocol!

[animeownage86]

15 Borg Cubes? I bet half the crew had to get a fresh uniform after that. I know I would have.

[shivviper1]

lol, i loved the borg episodes in st voyager!!

[ironwolf9999]

@animeownage86 lol yeah they probly did lol