True News: The Health Care Bill Passes The House!

[DeepThought42a]

This Act is simply a way to get the poor to pay for their own medical treatment. It cuts Medicare and will end Medicaid as we know it. They are replaced by the requiring even the poorest to purchase of insurance. Where are the angry activists who claim to help us? Their "under haystack fast asleep."

[Nerocification]

Obamacare was signed on March 2010 with 59% of the people disapproving according to a CNN poll. The CBO scored Obamacare on six years of coverage for 10 years of taxes, which is how the CBO showed the bill to be deficit neutral . It’s unconstitutional mandating all citizens to purchase health care. Even Pelosi said, “We have to pass the bill, so you can find out what is in it.” watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To It’s also meant to take over industry watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

Allen West 2012

[punderoso]

Love the report, but hate the name "True News", how could you pick something so Orwellian for the name?

[fps0chris]

@punderoso I always assumed he named it like that because it is actual non-biased news, nothing more than the pursuit of truth through philosophy.

[hauskalainen]

Just did some research and it seems that he is Canadian . . . And he has some wacky ideas.... This is him arguing why we don't need the government to provide roads......

... "There are many ways to pay for roads, such as electronic or cash tolls, GPS charges, roads maintained by the businesses they lead to, communal organizations and so on. And if none of those work? Why, then personal flying machines will hit the market!..."

The men in the white coats are on the look out for you...

[lordthawkeye]

@hauskalainen Yus! Cuz everyone knows only politicians know the formula to make roads!! Hur hur!!

That was sarcasm by the way.

[hauskalainen]

@lordthawkeye Sarcasm it may be but completely misdirected. Everyone benefits from roads so we should all pay for them and get them free without the need to invent personal flying machines.... same with health... we all need health care services at some time in our lives and nobody in their right mind makes themselves ill.... so we all benefit if health care is a public benefit in the same way as roads. As it is most of Northern Europe

[lordthawkeye]

@hauskalainen So...we should all pay for them and get them free...

Brilliant logic there...

Europe is going bankrupt and our healthcare here in Canada is nothing but a mess of cutbacks and queues that our politicians oh so conveniently exempt themselves from. I'm sorry but you'll find me somewhat less than convinced.

[hauskalainen]

Some falsehoods from this video...(Part 2)

116 seconds Notice how he skips over the real meaning of "no exclusions for medical history".... this is a major breakthru.... it means you are not punished for having been struck down with illness....

125 seconds - "the govt will start selling insurance".... sadly this did not get into the bill due to republican opposition

176 secs ,,, wrong.! unemployment is not >17%!!!

3m 35s Tax,,, Comparison is stupid. Europeans get services

[lordthawkeye]

@hauskalainen No, what he said was the real meaning. What you said was the stated meaning.

The money to pay for illness does not just appear out of thin air and with this bill, it just means if you don't take care of your health, you get to offload the cost to everyone else, thus disincentivizing the public from making wiser health choices.

[hauskalainen]

@lordthawkeye No.... the bill requires EVERYONE to have insurance so the uninsured will have to but.. that mean MORE money to the health care system.. not a free ride. ..

This man is a Brit and sounds very reasonable and educated but if you listen to what he ACTUALLY SAYS and compare it to the FACTS then what he says is clearly WRONG.

Who is this guy? What is his name? Who does he work for? Answers please!

[hauskalainen]

Some falsehoods from this video...(Part 1)

17 seconds "Herding doctors at gunpont!" Ha ha ha

47 seconds in "nobody knows what's in it" .... its published on the internet

64 seconds in "it will cost ten times the estimate " Says its based on experience but Medicare Part D legislation came in slightly under the budgeted

117 seconds "Everyone will buy minimum coverage insurance" Minimum coverage insurance is sold now but the bill outlaws this!!

[jellwoodis]

I was born with a benign brain cyst that doesn't affect my cognition whatsoever; however, no insurance company will give me insurance under $450/month (which I can't possibly afford) because of their "Pre-existing Conditions" clauses.

5 of my family members have worked for various insurance companies most of their lives, and know how much of a fraud the insurance industry is...

[BigNeonGlitterGirl]

Yeah...health insurance for the people who can't afford health insurance--(If you don't accept this new fraud you will be fined)! Where are all the low income people going to come up with the money to pay the fine? Where does ANY of this make ANY sense at all??....sigh

[WaitingOnTheOne]

I guess Obama will have to fire up his golden magic printing press again! Whoohooo! More debt, just what we need. He might as well clear out the prisons of those pesky pedophiles, killers, and thieves in order to make room for the people who can't afford the health care fines!

[FutureTimes]

It's gullible believers like you that put the rest of us at risk. You are good to have around in a Wildebeest pack. You would be the first to tell everyone the water is safe as you take your first sip from the Amazon river and a gator takes off your head.

Why has Government refused the same plan? They are too smart to drink the fucking water dumb ass!

[FutureTimes]

As Obama protects the phone privacy of Terrorists and invades the public's private medical records, he builds his invasive medical data base. He can perform hidden blood testing in government labs that tell them exactly what drugs you use, types of ailments and even mental Health conditions. Government will have access to an individuals private life with only one click of a mouse. Best part is Obama fooled most into believing its what they really want and need in the same way he became elected.

[duggerz]

I'm not a fan of Obamacare, but this video looks like a shill performance. Please state who is funding you.

[MascisMan1]

great explanation

[roguegrizzly1]

WERE DONE...........

[micksauntie]

More people will become ill in the future because the environment is going to hell and people are not eating as well due to the recession. That will put a lot of pressure on the proposed health care plan, which will cover more people = more people will want to see a doctor.

Questions come to mind...Hmm...where will all the 'extra' doctors come from, or, will there be INSANE waiting room times? Who is going to pay the trillions of dollars gov't will borrow to enact this plan? YOU!

[shepardh1]

Thanks for the insight!

[Hatesfury08]

The government creates the problem and then claims that it needs to get more involved in order to solve the problem it just created....*cue Twilight Zone music*

He's right though. The proverbial domino has been knocked over and we just have to let the rest of them fall where they may.

[mythmanjay]

@Hatesfury08 YOU may "have to let the rest of the dominoes fall where they may." I don't believe that people are stupid, inanimate slabs when awake; shame you do. I believe six people awake can hold up one who sleeps for a day.

[MRSketch09]

@Vid

A very informative video. Thank you.

... I have to say though, it was extremely disheartening watching this.

And thanks for the Advice at the end.

[cchessmaster]

The problem with health care is that the AMA has a government sanctioned monopoly on who, how many, and what is taught to doctors. I would rather go to a natuorpathic doctor but I can't buy insurance to cover that option. If I have a backache I would rather go to a massage therapist than a MD who will only prescribe drugs for the pain but do nothing to heal me.

[spikeslawson]

You are correct about there being a controlled monopoly on who can be a doctor and what they are taught. The AMA was behind it, but does not operate it. Many doctors quit the AMA and rejoin for a bit a few years later. My uncle was a doctor (orthopedic surgeon) and he would always try the slow, non-invasive methods before surgery. He would refer people to chiropractors all the time, or try physical therapy before cutting a person open.

[konshoff]

this country is bankrupt, the main reason for this bill is to enforce more taxes on population - but they have to bullshit you that you will get something. health care - there you go. money extracted will find its way back to corporations - those in bed with government. the pay will be mandatory - obviously starting lower - and after couple of years - the taxpayer will be in awe. government will blame raising costs on terrorists. it is the beginning of the end. well done !!!

[xpiher]

Another comment. Its not lies until the bill is signed into law. The senate will force the bill to be more moderate or it won't get passed. The house bill is pretty much DoA, so why wouldn't you admit that?

[xpiher]

There are good and bad things in this bill. The bad: the way health care is being paid for, the good: the restrictions on the health insurance companies power. See, the thing is, insurance companies weren't not covering illnesses that people didn't pay for, they were dropping peopel after they reached their cap for having an illness like cancer, even when they had the best plan available. Why? Profit

[quizerry]

Great video thank for the info.

[Fantomex005]

10% is only people who receive checks. That doesn't include people who stopped looking for work, work part time, and canceled unemployment. U-6 unemployment is about 17-20%

[citnaj]

Stefan- you've done a great job of distilling all this information from the 1900 page horror. Thank you!

[stefbot]

You're more than welcome, thank you for your kind words!

[IronGuy100]

thanks. subscribed

[stefbot]

You are welcome, thank you for subscribing!

[imrubberandyoureglue]

Unemployment is officially 17%? According to the US Department of Labor it is 10.2% which to say the least is a huge difference. Where do you get your information and why do you call it true news? On your website you state that "I try to avoid opinions, and instead talk about proof and rationality." Can you back up some of your claims with facts?

[ExquisiteDoom]

The actual rate is closer to 20% if you count discouraged workers, those who lost their jobs and decided to go to school instead. The rating you're pointing out also does not acknowledge those who work out of their fields to make the payments due to lack of work in their original departments. 20ish% covers anyone who is not currently employed in their field.

[stefbot]

Sure, search for "Broader Measure of U.S. Unemployment Stands at 17.5%" on the New York Times web site... Other references are to the right...

[imrubberandyoureglue]

Yeah I did, it says unemployment is "officially" 10.2%.

[curlylarrymoe]

Nice video! Lots of facts that cannot be disputed. Its amazing how many people have an opinion on this and actually know nothing about the bill.

[Cjkid]

This video is absolute BS.

[spamsponge]

I know, how about a bill to make every American an honorary Congressman!

[humanisall]

too bad both the A.M.A. and the A.N.A. support universal health care. The house bill is not the final draft. there is still steps before it is given to the president. This so called poor is the working class,theres more peasants than lord of the lands. this part of health care is a work to a bill. nothing is concrete. Your opinion requires nothing of substance, just whining. Democracy ask you to challenge the given government, not run from it.

[cchessmaster]

This country is a republic if you have the balls to express your freedom. They can't force me to purchase health insurance. They can't force me to pay income taxes. They can shoot me but I will shoot back.

[rysa5]

excellent work - I am glad i found your channel - There are some solutions - but they require sovereignty and financial power of course... Look forward to your further work - rysa - the goldring

[lindabebe835]

Excellent vid. Great info. Thank you.

[stefbot]

You're welcome, thanks for watching!

[blueorbeyes]

Excellent information! :) I am posting this on my Facebook and Twitter to garner some dissent over this poppycock bill [now] before the Senate.

[stefbot]

Thanks so much! :)

[kstnsnc]

can we all just get along

[shaudee67]

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

-C. S. Lewis

[shaudee67]

The Bill of Rights and the Constitution were documents hundreds if not thousands of years before their time. Only a few people truly appreciate them. I find it appalling that so many Americans have fallen for this socialistic CRAP, this overt slavery to a system not of the founder's design. Any form of socialism that stems not from intrinsic personal ideology but rather has roots in a political system is not a true form of socialism and is inherently corrupt. It is tyranny. I'm depressed.

[semutea]

I watched the whole thing and still there were no ideas or suggestions. Anything has to be better than our system.

[ArtinEmil]

Here is an idea. How about get rid of the government from the whole healthcare system that it actually becomes a free market. Get rid of the FDA and all the licensing that doctors have to go through.

This will reduce costs drastically. I know from experience here. I go to an illegal dentist (oh no!), with no paperwork I get good care with a fraction of what I would pay in a "real" office.

[ewops]

Agorism can work! I love risk takers like yourself...no sarcasm intended.

[ArtinEmil]

Why are you so surprised? There is nothing surprising about it. A group of people peacefully and voluntary working together. Why is this a radical idea in the first place?

When people ask me why I have so much trust in the free market. I just tell them to look at around and see that statism does "work" (ignoring all of its problems). So if that can work then the free market can definitely work.

[DCLugi]

The only problem with this kind of clarity is that it now hurts so much to see how overwhelmingly twisted it is. I used to view politics as a second rate soap opera that I could just change the channel from but with these pricks are on my doorstep I can't go out for the morning paper.

[watkinsj8]

I reckon we should just scrap this gov't, keep the constitution and start over.

[spikeslawson]

Why keep the constitution when it obviously can't prevent this from happening? Use it as a lesson and go on from there to something better.

[TheStig000]

Like Stef has said before, pieces of paper do not have magical evil stopping power. Otherwise the Constitution would have worked. It isn't working!

[cchessmaster]

The constitution is just a piece of paper it can't do anything by itself. If enough people stand up and act like free men this country can be saved.

[wpiman]

It's not a democracy; don't you know. It is a republic.

[nanciqwerty]

More clarity from Stef. Thanks :-)

[Rangerday1]

It will NEVER pass in the senate.

[thetimman00]

Everyone deserves to eat. Everyone deserves to have a roof over thier heads. Everyone deserves to be educated well enough to have above average wages. Everyone deserves to have as many kids as they want, regardless of cost. Everyone deserves to be conscripted to serve the greater good. Everyone deserves to have adequate personal transportation. It's for your own gooe, you know. What do you deserve?

[Rangerday1]

thetimman00 ---no one deserves anything other than what they will work for. If you don't work you don't eat. If you don't go to school to be educated you don't deserve to make above average wages. If you can't afford to have all of the children you want you don't deserve it. What is the greater good??? Who's going to pay for adequate personal transpo???

You are sounding pretty much like a socialist...am I missing something here?

[thetimman00]

@Rangerday1 Glad you see the falsehood.

[ExquisiteDoom]

This is childish, it's doublespeak for "I don't want to work for my own health, i don't want to work for my food, i don't want to work for my education, etc." You want to live, but you don't want to absorb the consequences, but want to dump it on society. This is not liberty or freedom, this is tyranny of the masses.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

If you feel shame or anxiety about your wealth relative to other people, then use your life and your property to manage those feelings. Commit to rigorous introspection through therapy, or just give your money away and enter voluntary poverty.

But other human beings do not belong to you. They are not your possessions, to be used for the mitigation of your unease.

Do not imagine that using other people and their property to manage your anxiety makes you in any way superior to the rest of us.

[ganymedic]

oh my god are you nuts? At least 5, 000 dollars a year on a health insurance!? In the Netherlands EVERYBODY pays max 2 000 dollars a year and they are covered for EVERYTHING. I don't want to "choose" between a million crappy rip-off insurance policies, everybody wants to be healthy and everybody should have access to the same treatments.

[insaniac82]

This is the problem when people take economics 101 then read up on Mises. They come up with idiotic conclusions like the ones in this video.

[BIackOp]

What conclusions? All the evidence in this video is fact. You haven't made an argument at all..

[i2aymond]

Please make a video about your ideas I will watch it and make a response to it.

[johnpdd]

I'm not stressing about this.

Let's just hope that the US crashes and burns completely before 2013.

In the mean time. watch for new places to move to. You may want to eventually.

[MotionFur]

Where would you suggest?

[fenderbenter89]

can some one cite the claim the congress would be exempt from the public option proposed in HR 3962?

thanks

[stefbot]

the references are to the right... :)

[BIackOp]

What happened to your last video?

[stefbot]

Sorry, a tech glitch, had to reupload, it's the same...

[BIackOp]

No problem. Thanks for sharing.

[fenderbenter89]

with all do

according to section 330 of the bill

Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act,

Members of Congress may enroll in the public health insurance option.

section 329 states that that plan is optional.

the citation is from early october but the bill was made october 29.

however this is bill crap

my tax money is gonna be paying for people's abortions according to section 259 and hell its not like medicare will get out of debt once its expanded.

[ali198021]

paying for war and robbing oil is right......paying 4poors health care is wrong???????????????????//

[ThePintsizeslasher]

Yeah bc stefbot totally advocates war. Oh, wait, no he criticizes violence at every turn. If you watched his videos you'd know his stances.

Health care would be profoundly cheaper were it not for the state.

h ttp ://mises[dot] org/story/3727

ht tp ://libertariannation[dot] org/a/f12l3.html

watch?v=eIba6_7Lw1s

watch?v=Nt0tKl0J-S4

[Apptendo]

Why the fuck?, You liberals accuse everyone who doesn't support the heath care bill supports war. WTF?

[andersoncouncil1968]

If this is your first look at stefbot's videos please watch some of the other ones before making comments like this. You've made yourself look very silly.

[10kensea79]

A welfare state is bad, a warfare state is worse, and having both is the worst.

[yo1dude1man]

All we need to do is END both wars and shut down all oversees bases.

That alone will pay for health care, upgrade our schools, repave every road, and still have a surplus to pay off the deficit. Won't that be nice?

[ascii7085]

I'm skeptical.

Whatever good might be done in the short term to alleviate costs will make things worse in the long term as their plans will escalate in kind, if not in excess of these measures.

Even if you're right, it's a moot point as that won't happen before its too late.

[BIackOp]

Sorry, it won't balance the budget nor give a surplus. It would help, but no where near enough. This was explained in a two part video with Stefbot.. As for paying for health care, "we" don't need a State to manage health care. (Don't need a State at all tbh) They done it enough in the past to kill whatever worked, like the Friendly Societies.

part1/watch?v=zF58InCvAAA

2part/watch?v=SHo7LYoJHg0

[Bassmarko]

The money is huge but not the primary problem.

The real problem is:

-AMTRAK

-USPS

-MEDICARE

-Social Security

-And many more

All are bankrupt and way over budget with US tax payers picking up the tab.

Healthcare will be another spectacular failure by our government.

Also based on these and other programs the real cost will be 13 Trillion not 1.2. We simply cant afford a government run healthcare plan.

[erhnamdj]

You say this will be another failure, but I believe it will function as intended.

The president, the congresspeople, and the senators will rain down the goodies on their friends, while ignoring the woes of the livestock.

[Bassmarko]

Agreed! If they really wanted to fix healthcare they could have done it in 200 pages. To screw the American people it takes 2000+ to hide all the unfriendly legislation. Many of my Democratic friends have reversed on Obama and Im sure once this is law and they what is really happening they will hate it too. What they dont understand it there is only us Cattle they dont see demicrat and conservative cattle. They just see cattle that give them power and that they can control.

[twilightawakening]

there aren't even enough doctors without 'free' health care... YAY waitlists!1

dear god.

[Uaz31]

Wow isn't this just great? Good thing our President and all the congressment know what there doing or we would be in serious trouble!

I heard too that, "In Obama we trust" is also going to be put on all US dollars starting sometime in 2010. Isn't that great!?

[jobrien2001]

Great video stef.

[Mathannix]

Why do I get the idea the Stefan is the only person who has actually read this bill???

[GetLostInCompost]

stefbot

You are a canadian, it means you have a guaranteed free health care.

What I am trying to say, go fuck yourself, shitass!

[FearsEdge]

Payed for by taxation does NOT mean "free".

[GetLostInCompost]

FearsEdge

It means  guaranteed and free , you, fucking moron!

[newgtguy]

I'd like to be the first to welcome you to an adult conversation.

Now, I know this might be a new experience for you, but civilized people don't use words like "fuck" to make intelligent points. If they do, the instantly loose all credibility.

[insaniac82]

Lose: fail to keep or to maintain; cease to have, either physically or in an abstract sense

Loose: not compact or dense in structure or arrangement; "loose gravel"

Why do so many people make this mistake?

[schulwitz]

Why do so many people make that mistake?

Their dumb!

[newgtguy]

I see I made two mistakes. First, the one you pointed out. Second, I used the word "the" instead of the word "they."

I'll try and be more careful in the future.

[ThePintsizeslasher]

No it means the state will take a chunk of money out your paychecks to pay for things you object to(subsidies, war, "regulation" that protects big business) or that people could handle just fine on their own(better even with prices, profits and losses gauging what people desire[roads, schools, police]).

Of course if you don't pay this money you are taken to the state sanctioned dungeons and rape rooms(oops I mean correctional institutions).

If you weren't 12 you'd know all this.

[foolcow1976]

Please do not feed this troll.

[MaikUniversum]

free health care do not exist. Somebody has to pay for it. Use your head

[newgtguy]

It's late and you have school tomorrow. Get off your mom's computer and go to bed.

[1mealperday]

interesting. i saw this vid 1 hour ago. favorited 5s and left a remark.

now its all gone and your vid shows on my station as unseeable, not here except in name.

[TheReasonWhyGuy]

Meh

[meka4996]

Thank you for your analysis... There is a movie called 2012, I think you got it...

[SCLARK2112]

As always, you did an EXCELLENT job of explaining a very complicated subject. Please keep the great videos coming!

I believe this bill will prove to be a major JOB KILLER simply because many people will be forced to disconnect or discontinue unnecessary bills like cell phones, satellite radio, magazine subscriptions and cable-vision just to be able to afford the government required insurance. Sorry Detroit, but there goes that new car I'd planned to purchase.

[psalmsmith]

I LOL'ed at "Government fighting obesity" when it is actually government subsidies of High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) and punitive tariffs on sugar that has created the obesity epidemic in America in the first place.

Everywhere else in the world uses sugar, not HFCS, and they have way less obesity than the US. Another example of the unintended consequences of government intervention.

GREAT JOB on the video! 5 stars. 8-)

[Starwars4J]

To avoid the flame war from last time, I'd just like to thank you for posting this, and to encourage you to keep up the excellent work :)

[LiberalofLiberty]

I know that you yourself are interested in a gradual and peaceful transition to a free society, but if the bill is bad enough do you think Americans will finally be convinced that the fault isn't freedom but violence?

Heck, I would think that the more openly authoritarian the bill the better it is for the freedom fighters.

[erhnamdj]

If the hundred quadzillion dollars of unfunded liabilities doesn't do it, why would this? Does it hurt the people it hurts enough that they would be willing to stand against the people it benefits? Especially when it's their family, friends, etc? Remember, the slaves mostly keep themselves in check.

And when they won't any more, well, they have hundreds of thousands of men with guns and helicopters and tanks to quickly deal with that situation!

[boosuff]

"Herding doctors at gunpoint" that's exactly whats going to happen. Great Vid Stef. I can already see the BS coming.