i did that escape yesterday with two different fighters. and both caught my with an Arm triangle choke. i'll stick with the old school push on the neck escape your hips (shrimp) into the butterfly...
you need to make sure that your farside arm is in the correct position. Sounds like you might have come a little too far up on your side and that arm may have come too close to his ear- in which case, you will get an arm triangle.
i guess this wouldn't work for a guy in mma when you can get hit in the face, my buddy had a fight and we were looking for a way out of side control. Any ideas to do it , and not get knocked out?
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this works very well for mma, I've seen guys use this. for example b.j. penn used this on GSP and it work very well (not that he got beaten up in the fight, this move still works for mma)
thats not what i ment..... i ment if the guy just sits there and dosent swich his hips to counter it then the escape will work. i probly use this escape more then you do so i know that if the guy swiches his legs to a kasakatame position then you cant do this escape. but i supose all sidemount escape can be counterd by a simple transiton. (also checking the hip with your hand counters this escape as well.)
hey great explenation you are a wery good insturctor i was wondering im new to mma and i have tournaments and im thinking of buying pants and a rashguard but imm 180 cm tall and i have 100 kg weight weill and XL rashguard look stupid on me if you can helmp reply plz:D
I hate being in side control. Seriously, I'd rather be in rear mount than side control. I'm Army-trained in bjj (yes, they teach that now - I was a low-level combatives instructor when I was on active duty) and they teach all the basic transitions, but nothing out of side control. I love it. Thanks for making and posting all these videos!
Hm...looks like the Jail Break. But still a weak escape IMO. It's too easy to stuff. Dropping your hip to stop the hook, or just taking North South. Give up that post on the hip and anyone who's been doing this for more then a little while will catch that every time. Keep it simple.
It is very similar to the Jail Break that Eddie Bravo uses. I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the technique. While this isn't a PERFECT technique that works 100% of the time, it is a very useful technique that should be added to the arsenal. Being able to pull off this technique can't HURT your game, can it? Why not train it? Is it the first option? No. But if the first option worked every time, we wouldn't need more than one technique. Regardless, check out the site.
Drop the hip and that leaves the option to slip the knee into guard, transitioning to head and arm to stop that creates openings for rollovers. Everything can be countered or blocked, but doing so creates an opening somewhere else. If you know your opponent recognizes something, you can use that to encourage him to respond to it and create the desired opening.
Love this. Absolutely love it. It's amazing how the simplest movements sometimes work the best. One of my games is rubber guard, so this fits right into my skill set. If nothing else, it will create a scramble if they try to move to mount or north-south, and really, when in a bad position, all we really want is some space to work, no? Thanks again.
Hahaha ... i enjoy reading these comments. alot of sarcasm from time to time. Anyway, thanks for posting these great videos and alot of respect for all of the time and effort you put in it to explain everything.
side mount is something different. look it up. Go look at any gracie book and you will see. A good example of side mount is rickson gracie vs funaki right before he finishes him. Its all good, common mistake
I tried this today at open mat with a friend of mine. He is stocky and short so his side control base is tight. He is more experienced than I am.
Anyways, when I pull my arm under his body in order to pull the foot into butterfly, I opened my self to a very dominant north/south position. He even got the 69-monson choke.
According to him, it's a big no-no to slip that arm under like that. That arm is needed to defend north/south.
Was wondering if there is any counter to this argument? Thanks
Of course- one of the counters is to go north/south when an opponent pulls the arm under. And if you pull the arm under and leave it there for days, then they will counter. If your friend is more experienced than you are, then don't get frustrated by him submitting you. For all of his counters, you have options too! When he goes to transfer from side to 69, you can move during his transition. You are always countering the counter-- that's why it's called a fight! Thanks for watching!
I will be posting two variations of this escape in the next day or two, so maybe those will get you better results. Obviously not every technique is going to work for every person or every time- but you should drill each technique that does work for you until they become second nature. Thanks for watching, and please check out the site!
I have a serious back injury, so my flexibility has been drastically inhibited. A lot of my techniques have been modified to compensate for that. Glad you're enjoying the videos, and I hope you'll check out the site!
Good video and it was explained well.
ryangi5 1 year ago
this is the jail break.
HonkxAnarchist 2 years ago 2
your vids are awesome man. thanks
therage001 2 years ago
its also called a jailbreak. BJ Penn used this move in his second fight against GSP except he doesnt need to grab his foot. talk about flexibility!
MrMojoRisinJM 2 years ago
i did that escape yesterday with two different fighters. and both caught my with an Arm triangle choke. i'll stick with the old school push on the neck escape your hips (shrimp) into the butterfly...
lrcraider 2 years ago
you need to make sure that your farside arm is in the correct position. Sounds like you might have come a little too far up on your side and that arm may have come too close to his ear- in which case, you will get an arm triangle.
TechniquePrevails 2 years ago
i guess this wouldn't work for a guy in mma when you can get hit in the face, my buddy had a fight and we were looking for a way out of side control. Any ideas to do it , and not get knocked out?
Just1Fry 2 years ago
Check out our site. We have well over 10 hours of free videos, and each of our belt categories have escapes from side control. It's 100% free to register an account.
TechniquePrevails 2 years ago
this works very well for mma, I've seen guys use this. for example b.j. penn used this on GSP and it work very well (not that he got beaten up in the fight, this move still works for mma)
arondadi 2 years ago
hip escapes
leonet4lyfe 2 years ago
thats not what i ment..... i ment if the guy just sits there and dosent swich his hips to counter it then the escape will work. i probly use this escape more then you do so i know that if the guy swiches his legs to a kasakatame position then you cant do this escape. but i supose all sidemount escape can be counterd by a simple transiton. (also checking the hip with your hand counters this escape as well.)
ph33ric 2 years ago
Fair enough. My apologies.
TechniquePrevails 2 years ago
hey great explenation you are a wery good insturctor i was wondering im new to mma and i have tournaments and im thinking of buying pants and a rashguard but imm 180 cm tall and i have 100 kg weight weill and XL rashguard look stupid on me if you can helmp reply plz:D
IronMaiden278 2 years ago
Jail break
KTFO1212 2 years ago
I always have problems in Side Control so will try this tonight. Thanks for the tip
benbryant 2 years ago
Thanks, great videos.
metsansiimes 3 years ago
I appreciate your kind words, and hope that you'll register a free account at the site.
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
Love these vids their great and very easy to follow. Great work
monarofreak 3 years ago
I hate being in side control. Seriously, I'd rather be in rear mount than side control. I'm Army-trained in bjj (yes, they teach that now - I was a low-level combatives instructor when I was on active duty) and they teach all the basic transitions, but nothing out of side control. I love it. Thanks for making and posting all these videos!
baboojackal 3 years ago
Thank you for your time in the service, and please check out the site. There's a lot of free content that you can utilize to improve your skills.
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
Hm...looks like the Jail Break. But still a weak escape IMO. It's too easy to stuff. Dropping your hip to stop the hook, or just taking North South. Give up that post on the hip and anyone who's been doing this for more then a little while will catch that every time. Keep it simple.
coleengland 3 years ago
It is very similar to the Jail Break that Eddie Bravo uses. I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the technique. While this isn't a PERFECT technique that works 100% of the time, it is a very useful technique that should be added to the arsenal. Being able to pull off this technique can't HURT your game, can it? Why not train it? Is it the first option? No. But if the first option worked every time, we wouldn't need more than one technique. Regardless, check out the site.
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
Drop the hip and that leaves the option to slip the knee into guard, transitioning to head and arm to stop that creates openings for rollovers. Everything can be countered or blocked, but doing so creates an opening somewhere else. If you know your opponent recognizes something, you can use that to encourage him to respond to it and create the desired opening.
JinsukeHP 2 years ago
Well said.
biffsaysfukyou810 2 years ago
Love this. Absolutely love it. It's amazing how the simplest movements sometimes work the best. One of my games is rubber guard, so this fits right into my skill set. If nothing else, it will create a scramble if they try to move to mount or north-south, and really, when in a bad position, all we really want is some space to work, no? Thanks again.
eng479 3 years ago
Glad you're enjoying it. Make sure you check out the site. We have a lot of MMA resources for you to check out!
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
Hahaha ... i enjoy reading these comments. alot of sarcasm from time to time. Anyway, thanks for posting these great videos and alot of respect for all of the time and effort you put in it to explain everything.
Greetz from Holland.
Mangkon 3 years ago
Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate the support and feedback, and I hope you'll check out the site.
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
this technique works very well, but this is side control, not side mount
side mount is litterally when your mounted on someone and they are on their side
kingshahine 3 years ago
I'm sorry my friend, but you are mistaken... It's all good though- check out the site. There's a lot of good resources there.
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
im sorry but im not. its called side control.
side mount is something different. look it up. Go look at any gracie book and you will see. A good example of side mount is rickson gracie vs funaki right before he finishes him. Its all good, common mistake
kingshahine 3 years ago
I guess we can agree to disagree... At any rate- good luck with the techniques and check out the site.
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
if some 1 tried that on me i would just drop my right hip
nikolejtmsl 3 years ago
Of course you would... Because you're the man.
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
haha
icywytesoljas 3 years ago
I tried this today at open mat with a friend of mine. He is stocky and short so his side control base is tight. He is more experienced than I am.
Anyways, when I pull my arm under his body in order to pull the foot into butterfly, I opened my self to a very dominant north/south position. He even got the 69-monson choke.
According to him, it's a big no-no to slip that arm under like that. That arm is needed to defend north/south.
Was wondering if there is any counter to this argument? Thanks
cjcuevas76 3 years ago
Of course- one of the counters is to go north/south when an opponent pulls the arm under. And if you pull the arm under and leave it there for days, then they will counter. If your friend is more experienced than you are, then don't get frustrated by him submitting you. For all of his counters, you have options too! When he goes to transfer from side to 69, you can move during his transition. You are always countering the counter-- that's why it's called a fight! Thanks for watching!
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
I am extremely flexible, but have short, stocky legs. This was impossible for me to execute... I just tried on several opponents.
ProStarMMA 3 years ago
I will be posting two variations of this escape in the next day or two, so maybe those will get you better results. Obviously not every technique is going to work for every person or every time- but you should drill each technique that does work for you until they become second nature. Thanks for watching, and please check out the site!
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
Thanks for offering explanations for people not made of rubber. Great Video
pverstee 3 years ago
I have a serious back injury, so my flexibility has been drastically inhibited. A lot of my techniques have been modified to compensate for that. Glad you're enjoying the videos, and I hope you'll check out the site!
TechniquePrevails 3 years ago
iirc, Bravo calls this the 'Jailbreak', for anyone looking for more vids =)
roflson 3 years ago
Awesome. Thanks a lot. God bless!!!
ProfRaphaello 3 years ago