how about this. us "people" need to learn something from past humanity mistakes. we need to stick together and not fight a war for the rich. we need to think like a modern day robin hood on a mass scale and take back what the elite have done to the people. we know how to farm, hunt, and defend ourselves. we also have physicist, and people that aren't greedy. we all can work together. and not say " you stupid russians, or you stupid this" we just need to realize that we are being fucked as humans
The problem and opportunity for the Russian Federation is the melting of permafrost. It will mean millions of hectares ready for agriculture and human live but, at the same time, billions of Euros lost as present buildings constructed on permafrost fall.
Or the city was built on a swamp and is honeycombed with tunnels and bunkers that are all decaying and they didn't survey the land or the stability of the underground before they built.
We have so many errors here now, building, paperwork, etc. No one knows what the hell they are doing. Yet, they hire mostly under 25 year olds !! And illiterate uneducated sheep. Just let me go build my own shack now, fer heavens sake ! Freedom to the people of the World.
You're an idiot. Hating a people because of it's government is stupid.
There is virtually nothing we can do to stop them short of starting a civil or revolutionary war and that takes a lot of time and motivation.
The American people haven't really had a hand in their government in decades.
The citizens benefiting? You realize we're bordering on economic collapse and families are going without food and jobs right? Yeah, we sure do reap the benefits of our governments mishaps.
The world hates us because of their own hubris,their own ignorance. Because people want them to hate us. If they hate someone else they can be distracted from the truth of what's going on in the world, in their own country.
Anyone who hates anyone because of where they live and not because of their character is a simple minded buffoon who will never know true happiness, only the bliss of ignorance.
Just like I don't blame your people for the Soviets, don't blame ME for my government.
The world hates us because of IGNORANCE. Propaganda and disinformation.
Because they need someone to blame for their and the rest of the worlds problems.
Because the world always needs someone to blame.
If it isn't the British Empire, it's the French, if it wasn't the French it was the Saracens, if it isn't any of those it was the Red Communists, if it isn't any of those it's the Jews.
Are you that fucking ignorant to assume that the American PEOPLE are to blame?
It looks like a serious problem. On one hand the foundations of new buildings will be built under a stricter code, on the other hand some of the older structures can be exposed. Engineers should prepare impact reports and be ready to deliver countermeasures.
Considering how old the city is, I hope there are archelogists researching the roots of the city's underground sights. There could be important ancient sights right under their feet!
Yeah but Moscow will never be the capital of Great Russia St. Petersburg will be the capital for me. Great tsar Peter made it a capital should have stayed the capital of Russia.
If the ground under Moscow is that porus perhaps the city should not go ahead with building a subterrian complex and find an alternative to building more subways.
It was not Stalin who "murdered millions." Rather it was the Judeo-Marxists in his regime: Lazar Kaganovich, Lavrentiy Beria, Genrikh Yagoda and others.
They operated the Siberian gulag, CHEKA/NKVD (secret police), and perpetrated the Holodomor of '32 where millions of Ukrainian and Russian Christians were systematically starved to death for the purpose of "collectivizing" their land.
Whether Stalin was the boss, or they chose him... It forms an interesting question, no?
Capatalist propaganda from the cold war,pre war my grandfather was a worker on Stalins five year plans,Didnt have a bad thing to say about it except he was glad to have done it
Its been shown that historians have altered these numbers and added these millions from the deaths caused in ww2,Stalin sent rotten people to the gulags-criminals,traitors,murderers,rapists that deserved to go there
Your damn right they did,people like that are threats and dangerous! US prisons? i have no fucking clue what goes on in them and never made a statement related to that
Because its fact that USA Government/military does that,All whats said about Stalin is HereSay and propaganda from the cold war,they show footage of starving kids trying to say Stalin did this to Ukrainians in the 30's when you can tell its starving Russian children under Nazi occupation due to the weapons the Soviet soldiers carry-they were not around until ww2
Stalin was a hero indeed,look at the polls in Volgograd last year. Our Red Army men went into combat yelling Forward for Stalin,they wrote on their tanks - For Stalin,Carved on their rifles- Za Stalina!
The difference is that THAT WAS THEN, and THIS IS NOW, and CUNTS like you use the wrongs of the past to justify the TORTURE & MURDER YOU are engaged in right in the present, you little SHIT.
Murder of its own people? Which one? Oh please and don`t try to tell me about Stalin. see link i gave over there. And tell me goverment in USA did not murdered its own people - answer me straight - never? This is test of your honesty.
Rape of Chechnya? Oh poor boy you SOOO deluded - they was infested with terrorism and killed 100 000 non-chechens prior 1995 as so as robed 583 trains in 1993 alone
@jreed136 These scum bags cannot argue, when they are defeated they use Ad Hominem attacks against you, I tried to make peace with these trolls, but ignorant people like these never learn.
I know, they also present false facts and manipulate facts to their own advantage. Which is a good debate tool if you don't get caught.
They'll never admit any wrongs of their country, just look at how they treat WW2. If there hadn't been two fronts the war would have ended much differently for Russia.
Let me tell you something about Chechnya stupid yank, 1995 Chechen militants claimed autonomy but were they contented ? NO they had to invade Dagestan, had ethnic cleansing and commited terrorism in alania region and moscow, rape was commited by your country as weapons was supplied by your government !!
I can't go back into the Soviet past to change what was done by our grandfathers.
But you could shut down Gitmo NOW if you wanted. But you DON't want to, because your'e a FUCKING NAZI CUNT YANKEE. ROT IN HELL, you syphilitic piece of PUS.
Oh, sure, I'll go down to Gitmo single handedly and shut it down! Yessir! BECAUSE THAT'S POSSIBLE.
You moron.
I can't change what my country has done either, and if you had any knowledge of the US at all you would know that the government has taken over and the people have NO POWER TO CONTROL ANYTHING GOING ON ANYMORE.
How long did it take to spark a revolution in Czarist Russia?
If I had the power you think I have, then I would have made things different. The US wouldn't have entered into any wars after WW2 unless it ABSOLUTELY needed to. We wouldn't be in Korea in Vietnam still and we sure as hell wouldn't be in the MIddle East.
I'd have given education more prominence in the budget and I would have strictly regulated what happened in high profile prisons.
I'm not a bad person man, don't blame me for where I'm from. I can't change that.
Go FUCK yourself, you stinking yankee troll. When they invent a TIME MACHINE we can do something about Stalin, but FUCKING STINKING PUSTULATING CUNTS LIKE YOU won't lift a finger to close Gitmo, you FUCKTARD DOUCHEBAG.
such a stupid yank, Moscow is a metropolis of more than 13 million people and if you look history it was never poor planning, for centuries there were underground tunnels
but considering its a new plan now that a underground subcity will be built to less the congestion of the upper part of Moscow.
It's poor planning if they do not do research before digging and building on whether or not the area around the place they are working on is going to collapse or not.
No matter how your tiny Russian brain can twist it, it boils down to poor planning and lack of foresight.
poor planning is different fool, your talking about tunnels and bunkers that are centuries old, built long before. it just surfaced because of new underground subcities. New York is a pile of shit with real poor planning its sinking to the sea by a cm each year and the drainage is poor considering it had time to plan the city its only centuries old. stupid simple mined yank
Moscow was built 1200 years ago on a SWAMP and multiple river crossings. Moscow has very complicated geology - THAT is why it sinking - BUT NOT ENTIRELY like New York or New Orleans
Stalin was a rapist like some of the undesirable scum that frequents these RT forums. Stalin poisoned Lenin and then created a fascist Soviet era not a communist one. Lenin wanted the empire to be controlled by committees and his big mistake was to not stop individuals from dominating the party, Stalin = Bank robbing Georgian rapist terrorist fascist. Stalin ruined communism in Russia.
Bullshit,Stalin was the one who was poisoned by traitors! Stalin created a powerful empire and took no shit,his strongness is why we beat Nazi Germany,Ask any Soviet veteran of ww2-they all admired Stalin and agreed with order no.227
@SashaVedernikov Ask any grunt a question for a General and what answer will you get? The only reason you survived WW2 is because us westerners happen to be your oldest allies, to think that you could of beaten Japan in the East and the rest of Europe is a joke, not even the mighty red army could of achieved such a feat, we Allies turn the tables on them and it was Germany that had to fight on 2 fronts, you guys are ignorant, stop raping the past!
Any Russian who studied the Eastern front of ww2 would never think that D day was something meaningful - The Soviet Union did not need western help we would have won the war,but just a year longer if we had no allies. Seriously get in reality - we lost almost 20 million people in the war, Americans lost less than 500,000! And you seem to forget that the Red Army stomped Japans ass in 1945! You stop raping the past with the BS capatalist propaganda
@SashaVedernikov "we lost almost 20 million people in the war", How many more would you of lost if the Japs had attacked from the east, 30, 40, 50 million?
As big as the Red Army was that conflict would not last long, it would in in a Soviet victory, and the death rate would be less than 50,000 I gurantee!
@SashaVedernikov Why didn't you beat the Japs then when you fought them around 1900? They massacred you and if we had not intervened and WW1 happened they would of invaded you. Why did the Soviets move their industrial might to the East of the Urals? Because you where preparing for a War with the Japs, you lost heavy to Germany in WW2 because the Japs where the real threat plus the purge of the Kulaks was a scorched earth pre-emptive tactic pre WW2.
We had no Soviet Red Army in 1900! The Japs were the real threat? are you fu**ing kidding me? We could have taken the Japanese out in a month! The Nazis were the real threat-they were the most well trained powerful army in the world with advanced weapons. And we took them out
If Hitler had taken Britain and did not have pressure from Africa, Hitler would have taken Moscow and Russia would be a German province today.
Losses in war do no equate into a win. Your people THREW people into the line of fire, and killed them if they didn't march forward. That's why you had so many casualties.
World War 2 was a joint effort by the allies to win. If it were just Russia, Russia would have fallen.
Your so full of capatalist propaganda its pathetic! You can not compare D Day or Market Garden to something like the battle for Stalingrad where over a million died on both sides in 5 months! More than USA lost in the whole war! The Soviet Union won ww2 and only an idiot Ameteur historian would say otherwise. Threw people in the front line of bullets and killed them if they didnt march? You just lost all your credability-fucking Hollywood "Enemy at the gates" bullshit
@SashaVedernikov The Germans used the spear head tactic. This tactic relies totally on logistics and supply train. THe Germans had several spearheads in Russia, while they had communications with Europe they held their ground and penetrated. USA & Britain destroyed Germany's ability to make war and continue to support the spearhead, the Germans where bombed at some stages of the war 24 hours a day. You are a making a hasty generalization of WW2, the west cut off their supply train, get it?
Only Russian historians would agree with your story.
I get it, you're proud of your country for what they did all those years ago... But to say that RUSSIA won WW2 alone is the most ignorant and arrogant thing you could possibly say and is an INSULT to EVERYONE who lost their lives in those horrible years.
If it were Russia Vs. Germany alone, RUSSIA would have fallen.
If Germany and Japan and Italy were not occupied with other armies, RUSSIA WOULD HAVE FALLEN.
When it comes down to it Russia won the fight against Nazi Germany,The Pacific was Americas war! But the war against Germany was ours we were invaded,our familys raped,murdered and tortured-our children as young as 7 went to the front,While American kids were at a park playing the Russian children were in the trenches with a rifle! Americans just tried to get to Berlin first to control it from the Soviets
@ SashaVedernikov : Russia redeployed its war making abilities to the east and laid waste to its own people in the west. Russia planned to fight Japan and use the Trans-Siberian railway. The Germans/Prussians capitalized on the vacuum of power you left in the West and Ukraine and invaded with their spearheads. Sasha how can you embrace the future if you cannot embrace the past. Stop the hate, stop the rape of history!
I embrace the past-I know my countrys past and look forward to a new revolution and another Soviet Union. I will not begin to believe in capatalists who's prime thing to do is lie to make communists look like monsters. I dont put up with that shit
Sasha, a Russian proverb " There is no shame in not knowing, there is only shame in not finding out ". There is disgrace in burying you're head in the sand and following lies. Please tell me why Russia deployed its war making abilities to the east and purged the kulacks and the left the west open to devastation by Prussians.
I dont follow lies,my grandfather was a Soviet sniper in 2nd world war even in Stalingrad,the most honest man I know! he told me how it was in the Soviet Union-Excellent and much better era than Capatalist style Russia today-he lived under Stalin and still admires him today! Overall I believe the people that lived it not the American/British etc... people who write shit in history books
So you don't know history regarding strategy? Okay. My great grandfather fought in WW1 as a soldier, if he tried to explain the strategy of the nations, I would not regard it much, if he told me about life in trenches and POW camps I would listen much. Enough said!
I differ because my grandfather was a Komsomol member/member of the young communist league and a member of the communist party - Thats why I listened!
Stop fu**ing distorting my countrys past! You ever live in Soviet Union? Then dont try and tell me about things you dont know about, and go read your capatalist propaganda history books
Well, Russians assume they know everything about everyone esles country, doesn't feel too good when someone else comes along and does it to YOU does it?
I have not said a word about other countrys,except whats fact and proven with evidence-like what Americans have done in the middle east! You cant prove shit on the Soviet Union because its all Here say and a bunch of cold war Capatalist propaganda
"MOSCOW President Dmitry Medvedev told Russians on Friday that there can be no justification for the Soviet government's crimes against its own people, lamenting millions of deaths and "maimed destinies."
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"Let's just think about it: Millions of people died as a result of terror and false accusations millions," a somber-faced Medvedev said. "They were deprived of all rights, even the right to a decent human burial, and for long years their names were simply crossed out of history. And yet today it is still possible to hear that these many victims were justified by some higher state goal."
You dont understand,after Stalin died Krushev had a huge Anti Stalin phase,He did everything in his right mind to make Stalin out as the devil even faking numbers of deaths from the war trying to say Stalin did it. These gulag stories were highly exaggerated and still are
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Of course they are. No one wants to see fault in the country that they were born in and the country that they love. I don't blame you for not wanting to even consider the truth, or consider that what you believe is the truth isn't really what happened.
You should see how easy it is for Americans to still love their country then.
If you listen to the story they say that underground construction began in the former Soviet Union at the beginning of the cold war. Also want to add that nearly all US metro cities have huge underground developments and to my knowledge our cities are for the most part structurally sound.
this is kind of ironic....i just came from the vid that said america was gonna collapse....by a russian econonmist........the irony....
mscfrk111 9 months ago
moscow wants to go deeper?! DONT MIND IFIDO!
Vnix 10 months ago
one of geologists looks like Castro
gigobait 1 year ago
Too many KGB bunkers in a given area!)))))))
Sismiques 2 years ago
This is funny. Peace!
Lingerfoot 1 year ago
how about this. us "people" need to learn something from past humanity mistakes. we need to stick together and not fight a war for the rich. we need to think like a modern day robin hood on a mass scale and take back what the elite have done to the people. we know how to farm, hunt, and defend ourselves. we also have physicist, and people that aren't greedy. we all can work together. and not say " you stupid russians, or you stupid this" we just need to realize that we are being fucked as humans
sbarudzija 2 years ago
@sbarudzija damn straight. couldn't say it any better my self
1980albatros 1 year ago
jreed is surprisingly retarded.
GoldenZealot21 2 years ago
The problem and opportunity for the Russian Federation is the melting of permafrost. It will mean millions of hectares ready for agriculture and human live but, at the same time, billions of Euros lost as present buildings constructed on permafrost fall.
trokoro 2 years ago
Hmm, this 600 rivers could be contained and used for small hidroelectric plants.
helion1b 2 years ago
What happened to surveys and geotechnical reports by soils experts?
murk2002 2 years ago
makes me think of those wierd lights in the sky over the city a little ago.
i suspect russia was hit by a wepon known as HAARP look it up.
nephozo 2 years ago
Or the city was built on a swamp and is honeycombed with tunnels and bunkers that are all decaying and they didn't survey the land or the stability of the underground before they built.
Crying wolf is so dumb.
jreed136 2 years ago
We have so many errors here now, building, paperwork, etc. No one knows what the hell they are doing. Yet, they hire mostly under 25 year olds !! And illiterate uneducated sheep. Just let me go build my own shack now, fer heavens sake ! Freedom to the people of the World.
phnixlady 2 years ago
I must admit, that some of our engineers should go back to universitys.
MrAlexZharov 2 years ago
Dumbing down of the World, a tragedy ! love 2 U
phnixlady 2 years ago
I wish 10 year olds woulnt comment, every single clip with comments is a kindergarden.
Thanks for those commenting something usefull to read, take care.
aces9876 2 years ago
Too true, many even admit they are childish, this venue had challenges ! Love 2 U
phnixlady 2 years ago
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CZARVII 2 years ago
How enlightened of you to hate people because of geography and circumstance of birth.
You poor, small minded fool.
jreed136 2 years ago
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CZARVII 2 years ago
You're an idiot. Hating a people because of it's government is stupid.
There is virtually nothing we can do to stop them short of starting a civil or revolutionary war and that takes a lot of time and motivation.
The American people haven't really had a hand in their government in decades.
The citizens benefiting? You realize we're bordering on economic collapse and families are going without food and jobs right? Yeah, we sure do reap the benefits of our governments mishaps.
jreed136 2 years ago
The world hates us because of their own hubris,their own ignorance. Because people want them to hate us. If they hate someone else they can be distracted from the truth of what's going on in the world, in their own country.
Anyone who hates anyone because of where they live and not because of their character is a simple minded buffoon who will never know true happiness, only the bliss of ignorance.
Just like I don't blame your people for the Soviets, don't blame ME for my government.
jreed136 2 years ago
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CZARVII 2 years ago
Uhh. Slavery was BROUGHT to America and MY ancestors fought in a Civil war to END slavery. You uneducated moron.
Most nations today have caused wars and murdered needlessly since the creation of man.
The majority of Natives died from disease CARRIED to the Americas by EUROPEANS.
You think your country is innocent? You think you're without blame?
You're just a stereotypical uneducated asshole who assumes he knows everything there is to know.
jreed136 2 years ago
The world hates us because of IGNORANCE. Propaganda and disinformation.
Because they need someone to blame for their and the rest of the worlds problems.
Because the world always needs someone to blame.
If it isn't the British Empire, it's the French, if it wasn't the French it was the Saracens, if it isn't any of those it was the Red Communists, if it isn't any of those it's the Jews.
Are you that fucking ignorant to assume that the American PEOPLE are to blame?
Give me a break.
jreed136 2 years ago
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CZARVII 2 years ago
If that's all you have left to say, then I do believe I won.
You are neither my moral or intellectual superior.
jreed136 2 years ago
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And blaming us for what our ancestors did as if WE had any control over it. Come on.
Get a fucking brain.
I do understand, I understand you're a moron with all but baseless hate of me because of simple geography.
Your poor unenlightened fool.
jreed136 2 years ago
guud vork great socialist republic vorkers!
lenin is proud!
tsarvadim 2 years ago
lawl fail god, fail more
mozart116 2 years ago
How does a complete moron like Kuzmin become a chief architect of a metropolis like Moscow? His response to concerns is mind boggling.
- I live in the present. Everything is OK at the moment.
Nice attitude. Basically, things will probably be fine while I'm in my cushy job. I don't give a crap what happens after. What an idiot!
ranndino 2 years ago 10
by saying that what he truly means is probably "this is what is going on and I have no power to override this process, and I can't comment on it".
EPsuperFan 2 years ago 2
Sounds to me that all of their engineers need to go back to school.
JOgleJSO1 2 years ago
It looks like a serious problem. On one hand the foundations of new buildings will be built under a stricter code, on the other hand some of the older structures can be exposed. Engineers should prepare impact reports and be ready to deliver countermeasures.
Athenaikos 2 years ago 2
people like alexander kusmin chief architect of moscow at 3:15. are the cause of 50% of the worlds problems if not more.
XIPM3 2 years ago 8
capitalists and governments looking to make a fast buck or solve a problem quickly on unstable ground is not just a Russian problem.
womblefree 2 years ago 2
Considering how old the city is, I hope there are archelogists researching the roots of the city's underground sights. There could be important ancient sights right under their feet!
Cherri59 2 years ago
saint petersburg should be the russian capital
manhattanwombat 2 years ago
st petersburg will never again be the russian capital
it has less capital inflow than moscow, st. petersburg has only 4.7 million population, moscow has more than
13 million population
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
but saint petersburg reminds of imperial glory, moscow reminds of the soviet era
and special economic zones could be constructed around the city's already expanding port, it could become the hong kong or dubai of the baltic!
it could see the same growth as after peter the great founded it!
ok I know this isnt very realistic but it would be very cool!
manhattanwombat 2 years ago
st.petersburg region in the second richest after moscow oblast , Moscow will always remain the capital of Russia
its older than st.petersburg and " special economic zones"
already exists in Russia, its in Kaliningrad !!
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
Yeah but Moscow will never be the capital of Great Russia St. Petersburg will be the capital for me. Great tsar Peter made it a capital should have stayed the capital of Russia.
TheAmazingStalinist 2 years ago
If the ground under Moscow is that porus perhaps the city should not go ahead with building a subterrian complex and find an alternative to building more subways.
abarzilai664 2 years ago
they need to learn how to dig and where!
MashaGu 2 years ago
idiots
lyoshakz 2 years ago
those , who defend Stalin
defend murderer of millions
911insidejob81 2 years ago
and those who make love not war will get aids.
IamFreeRu 2 years ago
@911insidejob81
Stalin did NOT "murdered millions" this is proven by DOCUMENTS
northstarcompass. org/nsc9912/lies. htm
MarshallJukov 2 years ago
And there are many more documents saying otherwise, and stories told by people who fled from the area.
De NILE isn't just a river in Egypt.
jreed136 2 years ago 2
@jreed136
Documents - SHOW IT TO US
People stories? You mean holywood people stories? Oh c`moon
MarshallJukov 2 years ago
It was not Stalin who "murdered millions." Rather it was the Judeo-Marxists in his regime: Lazar Kaganovich, Lavrentiy Beria, Genrikh Yagoda and others.
They operated the Siberian gulag, CHEKA/NKVD (secret police), and perpetrated the Holodomor of '32 where millions of Ukrainian and Russian Christians were systematically starved to death for the purpose of "collectivizing" their land.
Whether Stalin was the boss, or they chose him... It forms an interesting question, no?
LibertaerUeberAlles 2 years ago
please stop fighting people
I hope Moscow will not collapse
911insidejob81 2 years ago
I don't want it to collapse either, but the Russian trolls ill-represent Russia.
jreed136 2 years ago
The onlt one troll here is you, clown.
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
So basically moscow is like a house of cards and one shake would mean the end, russians better pray that an earthquake doesn't happen.
crystal357 2 years ago
Anything that the russians build tumble for some reason, I was just watching a video the other day of a building in moskow collapsing.
crystal357 2 years ago
you seem to confuse Moscow with New York
it was probably torn down to make new buildings
never heard that in news.
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
Except I'm not spamming.
And I don't have AIDs you brainless twat.
jreed136 2 years ago
You're an established and well-known troll.
MoscowMaestro 2 years ago
The definition of undermine.
thetimman00 2 years ago
Moscow Subway is still expanding, they should put
all the new skylines in the opposite bank.
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
Russia: Probably the best engineering................in the World.
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FreedomForMankind 2 years ago
russiatoday does not give any news about the economic crisis in russia lol
proximo20 2 years ago
proximo20, search "crisis" on the Russiatoday channel.
vtkrey 2 years ago
This is what capatalism does
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
... Building and progression causes cities to sink into the ground? Well, in a roundabout way... Yes. But Capitalism has nothing to do with it.
It's just poor planning.
jreed136 2 years ago 3
Yes it does,capatalism is why these new buildings are being built. We dont want these new buildings, we need a new Soviet state
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
...and millions more deaths to go along with the devastating results of Stalinist central planning when previously tried...
KagarBeardtooth 2 years ago 3
Capatalist propaganda from the cold war,pre war my grandfather was a worker on Stalins five year plans,Didnt have a bad thing to say about it except he was glad to have done it
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
Haha, okay. Whatever you say
KagarBeardtooth 2 years ago
your a moron, Moscow has many bunkers and tunnels
underground, some are inaccessible now but it was
never about poor planning, some parts just decayed
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
Poor planning as in... They should have PLANNED TO BUILD IN PLACES LESS HONEYCOMBED BY DECAYING TUNNELS.
God damn boy do you have no common sense?
jreed136 2 years ago
Haha and by the way it sounds... That's what COMMUNISM does.
Good ole' Stalin. Still fucking your country today.
jreed136 2 years ago
Stalin was and is a hero,He knew what he was doing!
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
Stalin murdered millions of your own people! Such a hero of the people!
jreed136 2 years ago
Its been shown that historians have altered these numbers and added these millions from the deaths caused in ww2,Stalin sent rotten people to the gulags-criminals,traitors,murderers,rapists that deserved to go there
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
Okay, so people deserved to go to prisons and suffer long, horrible deaths, yet you chastise what goes on in some US prisons? Fucking hypocrites.
jreed136 2 years ago
Your damn right they did,people like that are threats and dangerous! US prisons? i have no fucking clue what goes on in them and never made a statement related to that
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
Oh, some Russian trolls go on and on about how the US treats war criminals and terrorists and such.
Or how the CIA treats people.
They cry for basic human rights.
But Stalin didn't only murder criminals and you know that.
jreed136 2 years ago
Because its fact that USA Government/military does that,All whats said about Stalin is HereSay and propaganda from the cold war,they show footage of starving kids trying to say Stalin did this to Ukrainians in the 30's when you can tell its starving Russian children under Nazi occupation due to the weapons the Soviet soldiers carry-they were not around until ww2
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
Of course, of course, Communist Russia was completely innocent and Stalin was a savior of his people.
It's too bad the rest of the world, and even articles written by Russians tell me otherwise.
jreed136 2 years ago
Stalin was a hero indeed,look at the polls in Volgograd last year. Our Red Army men went into combat yelling Forward for Stalin,they wrote on their tanks - For Stalin,Carved on their rifles- Za Stalina!
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
The difference is that THAT WAS THEN, and THIS IS NOW, and CUNTS like you use the wrongs of the past to justify the TORTURE & MURDER YOU are engaged in right in the present, you little SHIT.
MoscowMaestro 2 years ago
The difference is your fellow Russian cunts constantly use the wrongs of OUR past with little concern for the wrongs of your OWN past.
The wrongs of YOUR past should make what's going on more understandable and make you less apt to blame the PEOPLE of the United States
You're a dirty hypocrite. Shut your trap because anything you say only furthers the hypocrisy you live in.
And that's what I truly believe, this post wasn't a troll post.
jreed136 2 years ago
@jreed136
Wrongs of our past?
Which EXACLY little troll?
MarshallJukov 2 years ago
Which exactly? Murder of your own people? Rape of Chechnya?
Creating an antibody resistant, long lasting, environment surviving super pneumonic plague?
Which exactly? I'm sure there are others, but I'll leave pointing those out to people who care more about the subject.
But I can already judge your response.
MarshallJukov/Igoravelisky/MoscowMaestrow(Same person):
Russia has done no wrong in it's history and is a paragon of virtue and truth! It's all western propaganda. Derp DERP.
jreed136 2 years ago
@jreed136
Murder of its own people? Which one? Oh please and don`t try to tell me about Stalin. see link i gave over there. And tell me goverment in USA did not murdered its own people - answer me straight - never? This is test of your honesty.
Rape of Chechnya? Oh poor boy you SOOO deluded - they was infested with terrorism and killed 100 000 non-chechens prior 1995 as so as robed 583 trains in 1993 alone
Look at your "raped" freedom fighters here:
watch?v=AwMM5WloZQA
MarshallJukov 2 years ago
@jreed136
a plague? may be you want to tell us about origins of HIV?
Actualy i see troll you have no arguments except well know media cliches
MarshallJukov 2 years ago 3
What are the origins of HIV? Peace!
Lingerfoot 1 year ago
You Worthless FAT Dumb uneducated YANK !!!
You want to talk about murder ???? OK
How about the Millions you killed with your hands
in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and the 16 Million native americans you slaughtered.
RussianDefender100 2 years ago 2
There's a difference between war and a genocide within a country over cultural or racial differences.
jreed136 2 years ago
@jreed136 These scum bags cannot argue, when they are defeated they use Ad Hominem attacks against you, I tried to make peace with these trolls, but ignorant people like these never learn.
javonoUTube 2 years ago
I know, they also present false facts and manipulate facts to their own advantage. Which is a good debate tool if you don't get caught.
They'll never admit any wrongs of their country, just look at how they treat WW2. If there hadn't been two fronts the war would have ended much differently for Russia.
But they'd never acknowledge that.
To them, Russia won WW2.
Oh well, you just can't win with some people.
jreed136 2 years ago
You Worthless Fat Uneducated Yank
Russia did Fought 2 Fronts idiot, the Nazis
and in the Pacific we were fighting the Japanese
with the Mongolians in Manchuria and was all won
by the Soviet Armies, Japan and Germany had a pact to surround USSR and meet at the ends
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
You Russians were not fighting such a dramatic two front war as the Germans were. They were spread thin and you know it.
If they had more troops and artillery at Stalingrad they would have taken the city.
jreed136 2 years ago
ignorant Yanka Trash, we were spread more than the german nazis, we took battles not just at Stalingrad,
we were fighting at the Leningrad Blockade, and the Great Battle at Kursk
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
Do you really think that if Germany had taken Britain that Russia would have been able to defeat the Nazi armies? Lol.
jreed136 2 years ago
why not ??? Britain was a useless coward that waited by
a salvation , they waited for the soviets and the yanks
for slavation. The crooked british said " now its no longer just Briatin we have the soviets in our side " .LOL
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
Hey I'm not a fan of the Brits any more than you are man.
jreed136 2 years ago
yeah, we can. Why?
girocraz 1 year ago
Let me tell you something about Chechnya stupid yank, 1995 Chechen militants claimed autonomy but were they contented ? NO they had to invade Dagestan, had ethnic cleansing and commited terrorism in alania region and moscow, rape was commited by your country as weapons was supplied by your government !!
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
Of course, push the blame onto someone else. Transference is a sign of weakness.
jreed136 2 years ago
Guess what, ASSHOLE?????????
I can't go back into the Soviet past to change what was done by our grandfathers.
But you could shut down Gitmo NOW if you wanted. But you DON't want to, because your'e a FUCKING NAZI CUNT YANKEE. ROT IN HELL, you syphilitic piece of PUS.
MoscowMaestro 2 years ago
What? What?
Did I make you mad? Poor guy.
Oh, sure, I'll go down to Gitmo single handedly and shut it down! Yessir! BECAUSE THAT'S POSSIBLE.
You moron.
I can't change what my country has done either, and if you had any knowledge of the US at all you would know that the government has taken over and the people have NO POWER TO CONTROL ANYTHING GOING ON ANYMORE.
How long did it take to spark a revolution in Czarist Russia?
Change does not happen over night.
So you, ignorant sir rot in hell
jreed136 2 years ago
If I had the power you think I have, then I would have made things different. The US wouldn't have entered into any wars after WW2 unless it ABSOLUTELY needed to. We wouldn't be in Korea in Vietnam still and we sure as hell wouldn't be in the MIddle East.
I'd have given education more prominence in the budget and I would have strictly regulated what happened in high profile prisons.
I'm not a bad person man, don't blame me for where I'm from. I can't change that.
jreed136 2 years ago 2
Hypocritical yankee-doodle NAZI SCUM
FUCK YOU TO HELL, NAZI
MoscowMaestro 2 years ago
You're the hypocrite here buddy.
jreed136 2 years ago
Go FUCK yourself, you stinking yankee troll. When they invent a TIME MACHINE we can do something about Stalin, but FUCKING STINKING PUSTULATING CUNTS LIKE YOU won't lift a finger to close Gitmo, you FUCKTARD DOUCHEBAG.
MoscowMaestro 2 years ago
Haha, I just told you I would if I could.
Why are you so angry
You're from Russia... I guess it makes sense.
jreed136 2 years ago
You were one of the Russian trolls that were telling me to die in private messages, saying how you would kill me if I went to Russia.
Do you believe it was right for the people of Russia to take the blame for Soviet errors?
I doubt you do.
So take that same logic and apply it to the current situation.
You little SHIT.
jreed136 2 years ago
Because it was the past, does that excuse your country?
No.
Does it make what happened there any less evil or tragic?
No.
Your logic is faulty.
jreed136 2 years ago
millions yes, but the exact numbers were twisted
by western lies, Stalin still did contribution, he put
Industrialization in Siberia in over 10 years time !
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
So you complain about the USA killing MILLIONS of people, but it's okay for someone to do it to the people in your own country?
You people don't make sense.
No matter how much good someone does, it can never outweigh killing millions of people.
If you used that logic, Hitler did a lot of good by giving us jet engines and volkswagen.
jreed136 2 years ago
such a stupid yank, Moscow is a metropolis of more than 13 million people and if you look history it was never poor planning, for centuries there were underground tunnels
but considering its a new plan now that a underground subcity will be built to less the congestion of the upper part of Moscow.
RussianDefender100 2 years ago 2
It's poor planning if they do not do research before digging and building on whether or not the area around the place they are working on is going to collapse or not.
No matter how your tiny Russian brain can twist it, it boils down to poor planning and lack of foresight.
jreed136 2 years ago
poor planning is different fool, your talking about tunnels and bunkers that are centuries old, built long before. it just surfaced because of new underground subcities. New York is a pile of shit with real poor planning its sinking to the sea by a cm each year and the drainage is poor considering it had time to plan the city its only centuries old. stupid simple mined yank
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
New York is on an island, that's different from a landlocked city SINKING.
But yes, I am a simple minded yank and you're a simple minded Russian. :(
jreed136 2 years ago
@jreed136
Moscow was built 1200 years ago on a SWAMP and multiple river crossings. Moscow has very complicated geology - THAT is why it sinking - BUT NOT ENTIRELY like New York or New Orleans
MarshallJukov 2 years ago 2
It's pretty much the same concept.
jreed136 2 years ago
New York is not sinking. What makes you think that it is? Peace!
Lingerfoot 1 year ago
STFU you aids-infected troll
MoscowMaestro 2 years ago
Stalin was a rapist like some of the undesirable scum that frequents these RT forums. Stalin poisoned Lenin and then created a fascist Soviet era not a communist one. Lenin wanted the empire to be controlled by committees and his big mistake was to not stop individuals from dominating the party, Stalin = Bank robbing Georgian rapist terrorist fascist. Stalin ruined communism in Russia.
javonoUTube 2 years ago
Bullshit,Stalin was the one who was poisoned by traitors! Stalin created a powerful empire and took no shit,his strongness is why we beat Nazi Germany,Ask any Soviet veteran of ww2-they all admired Stalin and agreed with order no.227
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
@SashaVedernikov Ask any grunt a question for a General and what answer will you get? The only reason you survived WW2 is because us westerners happen to be your oldest allies, to think that you could of beaten Japan in the East and the rest of Europe is a joke, not even the mighty red army could of achieved such a feat, we Allies turn the tables on them and it was Germany that had to fight on 2 fronts, you guys are ignorant, stop raping the past!
javonoUTube 2 years ago
Any Russian who studied the Eastern front of ww2 would never think that D day was something meaningful - The Soviet Union did not need western help we would have won the war,but just a year longer if we had no allies. Seriously get in reality - we lost almost 20 million people in the war, Americans lost less than 500,000! And you seem to forget that the Red Army stomped Japans ass in 1945! You stop raping the past with the BS capatalist propaganda
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
@SashaVedernikov "we lost almost 20 million people in the war", How many more would you of lost if the Japs had attacked from the east, 30, 40, 50 million?
javonoUTube 2 years ago
As big as the Red Army was that conflict would not last long, it would in in a Soviet victory, and the death rate would be less than 50,000 I gurantee!
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
@SashaVedernikov Why didn't you beat the Japs then when you fought them around 1900? They massacred you and if we had not intervened and WW1 happened they would of invaded you. Why did the Soviets move their industrial might to the East of the Urals? Because you where preparing for a War with the Japs, you lost heavy to Germany in WW2 because the Japs where the real threat plus the purge of the Kulaks was a scorched earth pre-emptive tactic pre WW2.
javonoUTube 2 years ago
We had no Soviet Red Army in 1900! The Japs were the real threat? are you fu**ing kidding me? We could have taken the Japanese out in a month! The Nazis were the real threat-they were the most well trained powerful army in the world with advanced weapons. And we took them out
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
@SashaVedernikov War is hell and you are talking to the Devil
javonoUTube 2 years ago
If Hitler had taken Britain and did not have pressure from Africa, Hitler would have taken Moscow and Russia would be a German province today.
Losses in war do no equate into a win. Your people THREW people into the line of fire, and killed them if they didn't march forward. That's why you had so many casualties.
World War 2 was a joint effort by the allies to win. If it were just Russia, Russia would have fallen.
But your arrogance will never admit that.
jreed136 2 years ago
Your so full of capatalist propaganda its pathetic! You can not compare D Day or Market Garden to something like the battle for Stalingrad where over a million died on both sides in 5 months! More than USA lost in the whole war! The Soviet Union won ww2 and only an idiot Ameteur historian would say otherwise. Threw people in the front line of bullets and killed them if they didnt march? You just lost all your credability-fucking Hollywood "Enemy at the gates" bullshit
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
@SashaVedernikov The Germans used the spear head tactic. This tactic relies totally on logistics and supply train. THe Germans had several spearheads in Russia, while they had communications with Europe they held their ground and penetrated. USA & Britain destroyed Germany's ability to make war and continue to support the spearhead, the Germans where bombed at some stages of the war 24 hours a day. You are a making a hasty generalization of WW2, the west cut off their supply train, get it?
javonoUTube 2 years ago
Only Russian historians would agree with your story.
I get it, you're proud of your country for what they did all those years ago... But to say that RUSSIA won WW2 alone is the most ignorant and arrogant thing you could possibly say and is an INSULT to EVERYONE who lost their lives in those horrible years.
If it were Russia Vs. Germany alone, RUSSIA would have fallen.
If Germany and Japan and Italy were not occupied with other armies, RUSSIA WOULD HAVE FALLEN.
jreed136 2 years ago
When it comes down to it Russia won the fight against Nazi Germany,The Pacific was Americas war! But the war against Germany was ours we were invaded,our familys raped,murdered and tortured-our children as young as 7 went to the front,While American kids were at a park playing the Russian children were in the trenches with a rifle! Americans just tried to get to Berlin first to control it from the Soviets
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
@ SashaVedernikov : Russia redeployed its war making abilities to the east and laid waste to its own people in the west. Russia planned to fight Japan and use the Trans-Siberian railway. The Germans/Prussians capitalized on the vacuum of power you left in the West and Ukraine and invaded with their spearheads. Sasha how can you embrace the future if you cannot embrace the past. Stop the hate, stop the rape of history!
javonoUTube 2 years ago
I embrace the past-I know my countrys past and look forward to a new revolution and another Soviet Union. I will not begin to believe in capatalists who's prime thing to do is lie to make communists look like monsters. I dont put up with that shit
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
Sasha, a Russian proverb " There is no shame in not knowing, there is only shame in not finding out ". There is disgrace in burying you're head in the sand and following lies. Please tell me why Russia deployed its war making abilities to the east and purged the kulacks and the left the west open to devastation by Prussians.
javonoUTube 2 years ago
I dont follow lies,my grandfather was a Soviet sniper in 2nd world war even in Stalingrad,the most honest man I know! he told me how it was in the Soviet Union-Excellent and much better era than Capatalist style Russia today-he lived under Stalin and still admires him today! Overall I believe the people that lived it not the American/British etc... people who write shit in history books
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
So you don't know history regarding strategy? Okay. My great grandfather fought in WW1 as a soldier, if he tried to explain the strategy of the nations, I would not regard it much, if he told me about life in trenches and POW camps I would listen much. Enough said!
javonoUTube 2 years ago
I differ because my grandfather was a Komsomol member/member of the young communist league and a member of the communist party - Thats why I listened!
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
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The people of Soviet Russia were blinded and led like sheep to the slaughter.
jreed136 2 years ago
Stop fu**ing distorting my countrys past! You ever live in Soviet Union? Then dont try and tell me about things you dont know about, and go read your capatalist propaganda history books
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
Well, Russians assume they know everything about everyone esles country, doesn't feel too good when someone else comes along and does it to YOU does it?
Stop being a fucking hypocrite then.
jreed136 2 years ago
I have not said a word about other countrys,except whats fact and proven with evidence-like what Americans have done in the middle east! You cant prove shit on the Soviet Union because its all Here say and a bunch of cold war Capatalist propaganda
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
"MOSCOW President Dmitry Medvedev told Russians on Friday that there can be no justification for the Soviet government's crimes against its own people, lamenting millions of deaths and "maimed destinies."
Ruuhreeaalllyyy?
jreed136 2 years ago
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"Let's just think about it: Millions of people died as a result of terror and false accusations millions," a somber-faced Medvedev said. "They were deprived of all rights, even the right to a decent human burial, and for long years their names were simply crossed out of history. And yet today it is still possible to hear that these many victims were justified by some higher state goal."
Your own president.
Hail the glory of the USSR.
Derp.
jreed136 2 years ago
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SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
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Haaahahahahaha.
The blind speaking of the blind.
jreed136 2 years ago
You dont understand,after Stalin died Krushev had a huge Anti Stalin phase,He did everything in his right mind to make Stalin out as the devil even faking numbers of deaths from the war trying to say Stalin did it. These gulag stories were highly exaggerated and still are
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago 2
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Of course they are. No one wants to see fault in the country that they were born in and the country that they love. I don't blame you for not wanting to even consider the truth, or consider that what you believe is the truth isn't really what happened.
You should see how easy it is for Americans to still love their country then.
jreed136 2 years ago
If you listen to the story they say that underground construction began in the former Soviet Union at the beginning of the cold war. Also want to add that nearly all US metro cities have huge underground developments and to my knowledge our cities are for the most part structurally sound.
mojdfiv 2 years ago
Underground construction aside,they still are planning on building modern skyscrapers etc... The last thing I want is Moscow looking like New
York city
SashaVedernikov 2 years ago
I don't want me city to fall! We must have this stopped.
Vaan40Productions 2 years ago
so they can shop during nuclear war!
Jicim 2 years ago
Haha.....you are hilarious,
fashionxue 2 years ago
good. that's what you get for saying bad things about New York.
x11115 2 years ago
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black people are the biggest problem in New York.
xandras1111 2 years ago