If they're so proud of that toilet mexico then the fuckin' worthless spics should go back there and quit uglying up our country! Fuckin' stupid beaners...
is this about ...."this use to be mexico crap" i mean common mexicans get over that shit there are so many more latinos out there working there asses to try to be accepted and become part of the USA. this dumb ass mexicans are just making shit worse in the end. this aint no mexico
WE RAPE AN PILLAGE YOUR SYSTEM, FREE MEDICO, FREE RENT, CABLE TV, FREE COLLAGE, FREE FOOD STAMPAS, EVERYTHING FREE AN YOU WHITE SUCKAZ PAY FOR IT, HAHAHA!!
OUT GUNNED, OUT MANNED, NO JOBS, DATS RITE, STUPID PENDEJO AMERICANO FUCKS!!
MAKE US LEAVE, CUZ UR LAWS ON OUR SIDE, SO YOU LOSE AGAIN!
NO FREEDOM SPEECH FOR YOU, HAHAHAA!
GO FIGHT ANOTHA WORTHLES WAR IN IRAN, WHITE CANNON FODDER FUCKS!! WE STAY HOME, DRINK BEER AND FUCK UR SLUT DAUGHTERS, LOLZ!!
I am a trespassing thief. I decided to sneak into another country, ignoring laws, and call myself an immigrant. I have no respect for another country's culture, language, flag, or laws. I am a foreign ambassador, and proclaim myself one daily, I will use racism and PC fear to get you to call my offspring citizens of your country. I steal your jobs, steal your social services. I wave a foreign flag in your streets, and demand your citizen rights. But I yell my demands in a foreign language.
@tinaw1969 THEN take your flag back to europe anchor baby this is native land from peru to america. your european your not american and who gives a fuck if you were born here your still not native. white people don't tell blacks to go back cuz they know deep in thier hearts what they did to our black browns
we need tear gas and fire hoses for these illegal scum and their ilk.then ship em into the desert by mexico warning them to not come back or theyll be vulture food. then later when the "human rights babies" are all screaming for blood ignore them same as before.
these illegal scum,if someone AMERICAN was there defending the law these scum would be attacking them.
these people are terrorists and should be treated as such!
@jimjonesable terrorist whithout a gun? hahahahaha lot of immigrants all they want is work, the terrorist are the politics in the world. no human is illegal!
lol.i was there.most people who attended that day did NOT bus in from other states.and most of the people are NOT illegals or "union thugs".a lot were Americans and from AZ.
Obama needs to stop being a media whore and worrying about his next election and fix this issue.That stupid judge didnt do anything but made things worse.
AMERICA IF YOU KNOW OF ILLEGALS TURN THEM IN TO (ICE) IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT!! IF YOU KNOW OF COMPANIES THAT EMPLOY ILLEGALS TURN THEM IN AND THERE IS A VERY NICE REWARD! ITS TIME TO TAKE BACK AMERICA FROM LAW BREAKERS NO MATTER WHAT COLOR THEY ARE.
The problem is in Mexico, our government has allowed us to come to this country to beg and they do not mind doing anything for us, we are alone and I hope we go on, unfortunately we are living this life of rejection and discrimination, incredible to see how the world is running out
@daviddavido MAN SHUT YUR ASS UP YU FUKKIN RED NECK GO BCK TO TEXAS. WE MEXICANS GONNA ALWAYS AND FOR EVER GONNA STAY HERE ITS OUR AMERICAN HAVENT YU HEARD BY 2012 THERES GONNA BE MORE AND MORE AND MORE MEXICANS SO GO FUK YUR MOM AND UUR DAD AND LEAVE US ALONE CUZ WE AINT GOING NOOOOOOOOOO WHERE
@ak47992 so what your saying is America The Home of the Brave and Land of the Free is going to become Land of the Vile and Home of the Out-Law criminals!
@HDNKR BITCH IN CASE YOUR ASS DIDNT KNOW THE USA WAS MEXICO FIRST THE WHOLE WEST SIDE ALL OF THAT WAS MEXICO . AND YALL REDNECKS TELLING US TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE CAME FORM WE ALREADY IN THE PLACE WHERE WE CAME FORM BECAUSE AMERICA WAS OUR AMERICAN AND HOW DARE YOU CALL MY COUNTRY A SHITHOLE BITCH MY COUNTRY AINT THAT ITS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WHOLE WORLD WE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE SAME NAMES LIKE KIND BILLY BOB .DO ME A FAVOR SEE WHO WHICH RACE IS GONNA POPULATED THE US ITS GONA BE MEXICANS!!!!!
@ak47992 Dude youre stupid I have already turned in many illegals to ICE and I and others will continue to do so!!! Anywhere I know there are illegals we will turn them in and "IT DONT MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY'RE FROM" Hopefully youre getting the picture!! All we have to do is call ICE and thats it!! So maybe youre not going anywhere but as many as I can find they certainly will be leaving and the border will slowly get tighter and tighter!!
@HDNKR LOOK YOU DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT FOR THE LAST TIME YOU CAN KEEP ON SENDING US OVER THERE THATS JUST A WASTE OFF TIME BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO KEEP COMING BACK
@ak47992 - I must say we did steal your guys land, which am sorry about it. You guys should be telling Americans what to do Really. White People are assholes. least the Raciest ones are.
@HDNKR - First of all your a Dumbass. Another thing Am legal. White people stole the land of the True Americans. Why don't go back to Eropone were you belong.
@TheSuburbanTechnique Like I said before if all Europeans left America, Mexico would just become a LARGER SHITHOLE! BTW....Quit living in the past D-Bag! You Mexicans couldnt do shit with Mexi-shithole youd just end up following us to Europe and feed off of us there too!
@TheSuburbanTechnique AMERICANS IF YOU KNOW OF ANY ILLEGAL ALIENS HERE IN THE U.S. AND IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT COLOR THEY ARE YOU MUST REPORT THEM!! IF YOU KNOW OF ANY COMPANIES EMPLOYING ILLEGALS YOU MUST REPORT THEM TO "IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT" AND THERE IS A REWARD!!!! LETS TAKE BACK THE AMERICA OUR ANCESTORS CREATED!!
@TheSuburbanTechnique Hey listen Ninjaboy just play with youre ninja toys and let the grown ups work out this Illegal Immigration! BTW...you couldnt deport a 2 year old you young little spank!
@HDNKR - I all really have. Plus Ninja is so gernilyest word also. What are we talking about the Movies Type or the Real ones, Or the Modern day Ninjas. Am Panamaian Ninja dude Your stole our land, And you should be the one to be Deported this is my Fainl Comment ass.
We have a vibrant Hispanic Community in Houston & although you see some Nationalism for their home country it usually passes with 1 generation & you'll see their children waving the American flag, & whereas they came over her with names like Jose & Marie, you see them giving their children names like John & Mary, & whereas they sometimes come from families w/ 10-12 children, once here they mostly have 1,2 or 3 - they acclimate fairly fast.
yeahh im mexicanamerican an against the sb1070 but it us kinda of dum that theres no american flags there always has to b a dum ass fucking shit up and for there fault we all get judge but we all love an thank this state for the wonderful opprtntys please dnt judge
let's check up on Che Guevera's illegal immigration policy in Cuba...I'm guessing jailed and tortured for weeks and constantly interrogated as to whether or not you're a capitalist saboteur sent to disrupt the Peoples' Paradise? Then murdered or given a long prison sentence.
Of course criminal Marxists are out supporting criminality, they couldn't do otherwise.
This is a disgrace, waving a mexican flag and a cuban flag with a freakin commie pic of che, im a vet and this is embarrassing, kind of makes me wonder why?
American patriots; We are at war with Mexico and a rogue federal government. If we want the southwest to remain part of the United States, we must act now. The purge must continue, no matter what some bonehead federal judge says. There are provisions in the Constitution to deal with this.
@Over Universe...My comment was in reference to the folks who use Che Guevara as an idol....he openly ridiculed Mexicans......and you should take your own advice....you don't know them either, and they aren't all GOOD either. It is normal, at your age to be very liberal and want to make the world a better place. What you don't realize is how many people actually want to make it a WORSE` place.
@killergames187 this I can agree with we can blame them for this propoganda for sure. Except Che isn't a pussy as you put it. He was a brutal murderer who killed anyone who opposed him and Fidel Castro. This is how the few gain power over the many except we know this dance and I for one refuse this to happen here in America. You guys who think that things would be better under Socialist, Marxist, or Communist rule just don't read your history. Or you only read their views, fools.
@6375728 Apparently you are another one of those who think this is about Race as well. Hello! It's about sovereignty not race idiot. Read your freaking history dumb ass.
these people need to go back to mexico ...wow i was at WORK when this was filmed maybe that is the point here wish i had all the time in the world to go hang out in front of a jail and protest anything and ya'll would still pay me WELFARE to do it wow the world would be a better place!
This people is what your president allows to happen in OUR country. They prefer to protect the rights of foreign invaders over the rights of their OWN citizens. *facepalm*
These folks are walking advertisements for mass deportations that will, hopefully, result in the removal of a lot of illegals who will take their offspring with them.
If they are upset thinking their American rights are being taken away, why wave the Mexican flag? Flying the Mexican flag gives us insight into the crowd's mentality. They're not in the U.S. to be American. They're coming here to be Mexicans. They identify themselves as Mexican. They don't want to be American, they just want American social services and jobs.
we need to go to war with the bastards down south. put up defensive fighing positions, sniper nests, mine fields, bradley's, abrahms, and strykers, and apaches, kiowas, and little birds. send air strikes on any target that sends these militias across our borders. if your caught sneaking across the border you should be shot on sight. another thing we should do is have predetermined grid coordinates for mortars and artillary strikes and put special forces and delta forces in select border towns.
Stupid Fuckin' spanish speaking indians!!! Che, was a communist outlaw who would have put a bullet in most of YOUR heads for being too liberal. He was a CONSEVATIVE IDEALIST!!! you liberal fucktards!!!
Soooo, no american flag, to represent their AMERICAN rights they want to protect so much... The fly a Mexican flag and a marxist flag.... I'm all for freedom of speech, but these people are trying to subvert it for something that is strictly NON-American. And in the end, others will pay. This is a soft invasion and should be treated as such. These people are not even American at heart. And you know what, neither is Obama.
@ellorybockting They are trying to do civil disobedience, not follow the laws and show american flags. They showed american flags through all their protests, this is more of a civil disobedience....
@OverUniverse Civil disobedience is done as a non-compliance. When Ghandi did it, he did it in the spirit of India. When Dr King did, he did in the spirit of America. This is not as much as civil disobedience as a statement that says "because we are mexican, we can get away with this." They are not proud of being American. And that says everything we, as Americans need to hear from them. There is no excuse for waving those flags in that matter. Unless you felt you was Mexican, not American.....
@ellorybockting A lot of them were born under the Mexican flag, and joined the US. And this law made them feel like their own country gave them a stab in the back, so they use the flag to represent where they came from, and it also represents the country who is backing them up. When they protest, the American flag is all over the place because it represents that they are on the American side, and that someone needs to hear them because they are part of this nation too.
@OverUniverse I can see what you are saying, but it doesn't hold water. Let me help you understand how others will see this. These people are simply not Americans in their hearts. It's that simple. And doing something like flying those flags while in protest shows us that. I have many friends in AZ and I live in texas. I have YET to see these protest carry he stars and stripes proudly. Infact, I have seen video of them attacking our flag. Until they become American, I will not accept them here.
@ellorybockting Isn't it concidered a freedom to be able to burn a flag without being criminals... I saw the mexican flag get burned down 2 times in my life, and 1 time the American flag, I find both sides very sad, but its better to attack the flag, rather than the people. You have also forgotten there are also people hugging the flag, putting it around themselves, and being proud of it. If you ignore these and just pay attention to these. you have a very short view of things.
@OverUniverse I think you should reread my comments. I never once thought it a crime to bear a Mexican flag sir. Nor have I said I would take that right away. My consistent point has been mindset. Where do they place their loyalties. And since this is more about taxes and money and benefits and not race, it makes waving a Mexican flag look bad to Americans. It's all about where they are mentally. My view is fine.
@OverUniverse What bull shit is that?I work with ten illegal Mexican and they don't care about the American flag one dam bit so stop your lying!They put the shit rag Mexican flag on their cars,house,hate's and not one of them have a American flag.They have them hear so you think they care but they don't!!
@killergames187 He has not cursed or insulted a whole nation's flag yet. He has been discussing this respectably and should not be treated in kind. I understand your frustration. I am deeply enraged over this in my heart as well! I am as patriotic as the next guy. Been deployed 3 times for this nation. But I asking you to please show him American respect for proving a simple point. If you can't then honestly, you will come off as thug-ish.
@ellorybockting As you know people have died for us to be free and they wave that Mexican flag like it is so great and i can show you video after video wear illegal Mexican show no respect to the American flag in the same video they are demanding the rights of American's and that is ok?If you go to Mexico and do that they will kill you!
@killergames187 I care, I have donated to the AZ support fund, signed petitions and support all videos expressing these views. and I have shown I care while discussing this. But I do so honorably. And I don't feel the need to insult Mexico or anyone while I am at it. I have fought to hard to resort to it. He is a young man, and young minds are often just unaware of the larger world. And wether you like it or not, the young will be next in line. So guide them well.
@killergames187 I have a friend that puts the germany flag on her car all the time.... and everyone will always be proud of their country they came from no matter what. And they felt that the disobedience should not need any American flag. Why? I don't know, but it was their decision in the end. It's not wrong to put a Mexican flag up in the end either. my school has a Mexican flag in the lunch room and no one complains about it like you do.. people are more mature these days.
@OverUniverse You make no cense with your argument. 1. This is not their country and they show that by carrying Mexican Flags. 2. Their own country did stab them in the back way back when Santa Ana sold CA, AZ, TX, NV, CO, UT territories to US for $25 million dollars. So why would they want to represent where they came from if they want rights here. I'll tell you why because they care not for America they want it back and will do anything to get it back. We don't need to hear them period.
@furiesego Oh yea... they're all saying. WE WANT OUR LAND BACK! Hell no. It's been a long time since the land was bought from Mexico, they're not angry about that still. This is a disobedience against Sb1070 not a disobedience about Mexico selling its land to the US. And they want to represent where they came from because its their choice. This is a free country and carrying a Mexican flag shouldn't automatically make u think "Oh they don't care about me!" grow up.
@OverUniverse You make a good point, it is a free country. But then our opinions count too. I would have to ask you to consider what would happen to a country without an identity. What if more people waved the American flag in Mexico whenever they disagreed with what the government did? My point is this, disobedience, cloaked like this is an insight into where they place their loyalties. I'm glad we have free speech, it let's us know who really stands for America. You can't wiggle out of it.
@ellorybockting First of all, just like every other country, Mexico is not as understanding as the US is. We have people of every ethnicity here and everyone is free to say what they want, Mexico isn't like that, so you can't compare it to America this time.I understand their disobedience is for a great cause, so I'm not worried. I'm just worried about people who try to look for things they do wrong all the time and never even look at the things they do right.
@OverUniverse Try to understand sir, It's a question of what are they fighting for? For American rights? Or for their rights? When the stats all show things like 70% to 90% of the open warrants for homicide come from illegals (not just Mexicans) and whole hospitals on the boarder are closing down due to illegals (that one IS Mexicans) and Whole states are collapsing under the strain, America needs to do something. And Amnesty is a trick. Please PM me if you want me to explain. I hope you do.
@ellorybockting They are fighting for their American rights. Like for example, they were mad because as an migrant citizen of the US, their rights could be broken by corrupt officers such as Arpaio. Any day you forget to bring your documents with you, you will find yourself in jail for a whole month, less or more, with those corrupted officers. Yes I do agree with you that Amnesty is a trick, its the only way people will collaborate to get background checks and make it that much safer.
@OverUniverse Racially motivated attacks is disgusting to any true American. And I have heard the stories. And I can tell you of horror stories from the other side of the fence. Ones of how illegals are using their status to get away with murder and drug running. The simple fact is, immigration reform needs to happen. I have seen what people need to go through to get here. And it needs work. However, in the mean time the sheer numbers of illegals are hurting America. It just so happens that
@ellorybockting Yea, unfortunately I heard some too. And I completely agree with you about the reform. I just wanted to ask one question. What is being a true American to you? To me it's standing for what you believe is to be right.
@OverUniverse This is why I like talking about this subject with you, questions like that is a breath of fresh air. It is freedom to me. And that means that you stand for what is right for you INDEED! However, in the same breath, you have to value the country that gave you that. And with your very life defend it from people who would like to sneak it away from you. And this is a prime case of that. Saying that is a racial issue when it's about law and taxes is a sneak. But excellent question!
@ellorybockting They do value the country that gave it to them. And yes, they are trying to defend their rights. Because if they just sat there with their mouth opened doing nothing about people making the decisions for them, it would be really messed up. Lets say there was a law put against people born here, applies to everyone not just white people, and it didn't affect immigrants. Lets say you didn't agree with this law, just because the State put it there, does it mean you have to follow it?
@OverUniverse ROL (rule of law) is always a tricky question. Great approach BTW! However it's more subtle than that. And to be honest, your question has shown how little you have researched this subject. Did you know???
Illegals get charged 1$ for drinking and driving, no jail time.
Illegals will not get arrested for, or be denied service for lack of payment?
Illegals can not be deported even when caught while breaking a crime?
All in certain cities. So it already is that way.....
@ellorybockting In what place does that apply? A relative got 10 year jail time for drinking and driving in Idaho. And I don't know about the payment stuff, my parents have always paid everything right away, and when they can't, they go to collection and get a bigger bill to pay. Only happend 2 times.
What bothers me the most are not these laws. But in some states an illegal cannot get an education, because they can't attend college. So they become criminals in some cases.
@OverUniverse You should do a search on sanctuary cities for illegals. It will answer those questions. And about your other statement. Good sir, they don't become criminals because they can't attend college, they already are criminals being here illegally. Don't you see that? They have no right to our tax money for anything. I can understand that you may have loved ones that are illegal. But that doesn't make it right to take peoples money like that. That's the whole point.
@ellorybockting All the illegals i know pay the same amount of taxes you do. And even more. Their checks get 200+ deducted just on state taxes. They have a right to it, even if it makes you angry.
@OverUniverse (part two) they are Mexican in Arizona. But the effect would be the same even if they were coming from Mars. They are HURTING America. And maybe more than you know. And far to many are benefiting from the illegal status.
@ellorybockting The only real benefit I see, is free education for their children. And Education is never a crime. Most children that come here with their parents illegally only want education, and no one should ever take education away from children, specially when they demand it.
@OverUniverse I completely disagree with what you say about education!!!!!!! I will not pay for the whole worlds education with my taxes. If the only rule is "brake the law and you get free education" I say WRONG! You wanna know why people are fleeing Mexico? Because the CIA run the drug cartels. And Mexico would have had a revolt years ago and taken their country back if it wasn't for the pressure valve of the illegal immigration. And you don't see the feds stopping them? You're being fooled.
@ellorybockting One of the rights for everyone standing in US soil is to be able to get an education. Nowhere do I see anything about illegals are an exception.
@OverUniverse And about education.... It is angering Americans that they are paying for education that someone else isn't paying for too. The exception is that it has became completely unfair for citizens to be demanded be illegals to pay for their medical, education and even welfair. Or do you agree that it should be this way? In case you haven't noticed, we are going into a depression.
@ellorybockting I don't know what you're smoking. But whatever you say, people should always have access to education. If these people get educated, they will stand a chance in their home countries if they are taken back, and will ensure they won't be coming back illegally.
@OverUniverse Once again, you are assuming it's Americas' job to teach Mexico. And we are not exporting Illegals. The only things the the Mexicans in specific are sending back is money to bring more here. We both know that is true sir. As for smoking, sir, I do not smoke, and I never have. Please ensure that this conversation remains respectful. Your opinion is only as valuable as its delivery. It is Mexico's job to school their citizens. Why not wave the flag their?
@ellorybockting I'm sorry for the remark I said about you smoking, I shouldn't have said that. And I'm not sure why everyone came here. My parents came here for my education, nothing else. The pay is good, but miserable compared to others. And the job they have to do for it is questionable if it's worth it or not.
@OverUniverse Thank you, and I understand that this is a PASSIONATE sunject for many. I will be honest that there is ONE part that is absolutely breaking my heart. And that is the children born of illegal parents here. You do understand that eventually something will be done, and one way another it will create problems. If they are forced to leave, then it will help the citizens by billions, but blow back. Amnesty, and there will be blow back too. Either way, it will hurt.
@ellorybockting Yes it is very passionate. The amnesty is the best thing to do, since its the only thing that will get illegals to come out of the shadows, get a background check, and get their support to enforce the border. And plus, all the tens of billions they will generate for the US to become citizens will help out a lot the economy.
@OverUniverse Here the problem with Amnesty. And it's sometimes hard for many to understand it. It has three main issues.
1. Obama has went back on all his promises. And now needs illegals to get anywhere politically. And considering that more than half this country is so angry at him for making laws that are against the constitution we all know he works for bankers.
2. The bankers want the border open, but will not reform the immigration laws. This will make any mexican that comes here
@ellorybockting Obama has been doing nothing to help. Maybe you're right, I will re-evaluate my decision. But I can tell now that if he doesn't live up to the amnesty he promised, no matter what he does to get supporters, he will lose on the next election indefinitely.
@OverUniverse illegal but could get amnesty any time. But bankers have already admitted they want it a better deal for them to remain illegal.
3. Most of the illegals would go on welfair (sorry, maybe your family is better, but there is not legal work for them where they exist) This would be ever harder on the system than they already are. Please think about this before you consider how Amnesty would benefit the bankers, and the few. But America as a whole.
@OverUniverse In other words, the deal would be even sweeter for the illegals, but even worse for the rest of America. And once again, they wave an American flag. Now you ignore the talking points the media and lobbyist groups put out and read the laws, you see it's not about race. But profits, the bankers own the CIA, and they want to make even more money, they can do this if Americans can lose their rights and money. It's always about money, and who wants it. Race is a distraction.
@ellorybockting Good sir, I have deeply enjoyed your point of view and wanted to express your arguing style has been refreshingly clear and passionate with out the curse words. If you truly believe that is right to grant Amnesty then look into if wether or not that would stop the illegals, and if wether or not that would cost America even more. And look into who really profits from these actions. And lastly,what is ethically right when taking someone else money.
@ellorybockting I do not doubt that there are some who pay some taxes. But sir, you can do even a moderate search online and find the statistics that will show you that illegals are a negative net return for America. Meaning, that illegals are actually making America lose billions every year. There is absolutely no benefit to them in this country to anyone but THEM. Add the sanctuary cities and this is why it hits a nerve when they wave a Mexican flag. They have a good deal, and want us to pay.
@OverUniverse Do you really think so you don't live in Arizona do you or in California for that matter or at least not in LA. Don't you know that is what LA Raza teaches. Silly boy do you really think that I would say something without knowing something of what I talk about. They teach sedition based on the fact that "we" live in their occupied country. Regardless of the fact that we did in fact paid for it. Study your history son.
@furiesego These people have their families separated, some of this might be some pep talk to calm them down and let them keep fighting for their rights. I have been to a few of their conferences. They are really smart and talented people, but everyone has their flaws in this world.
In a country well the police is against them, they need a lot of motivation to let them keep going regardless on any bill they hit them with, it's all about the kids and to make sure they get an education.
Are you shitting me? Let these bastards fight a revolution in THEIR countries and fight for Freedom and Liberty like OUR forefathers did starting in 1775.
These communist thugs live in shit hole countries, and come up here and want to make America like the shit hole they left.
To hell with that. Start putting their asses in prison.
We need to adopt MEXICO's immigration policy. If you are illegal there, they just shoot you. That would cut all of this bullshit out.
Mexico is a shithole. It remains a shithole because of the oppresive stance they take against foreigners. This is a country that could actually use immigrants because their population is so worthless, but they are oppresive towards them. Did you know that nearly the entire city of Mexicali was once chinese immigrants to Mexico but the Mexicans killed them off?
We need to follow what they are doing because Mexicans will do to this country what they have done to theirs.
@rawdawg15 - I don't think Mexico is as opposed to foreigners coming in as you suggest. It is fairly easy for an American to get a 6 month VISA & then to return to the USA & keep renewing it time & time again.
Many thousands of Americans have done this & live in their own homes in Mexico in their own subdividions - the living costs, including medical, is much less.
These ppl are now worried that if Mexicans are massively deported from the USA, they'll lose their VISAs & homes.
Really, well it says in the Mexican constitution that foreigners aren't allowed to earn land within 50 miles of a border or a beach. Look it up, the number of distance might not be exact but it is true.
@rawdawg15 -- that's the way it used to be, but now Americans are no longer restricted that way & you'll find many $1,000,000.00 beach homes in Mexico owned by Americans.
@OverUniverse See now why I like chatting with you lol. Respect is something that sadly people from all countries and walks of life seem to think is waived when discussing a passionate subject lol.
For all those that choose to be so disrespectful please go back and see how this young man and I was able to chat about this honorably and even learn from each other. If you are American, please show how we learned to be more respectful than those waiving that flag on our lands like that.
@ellorybockting I respect that we have our differences, but in a way, if everyone agreed to everything... it would be a very controlling and boring world. I like how people show their beliefs, but I hate when they start talking bad about people. Sometimes I wonder if they even have a conscience.
@OverUniverse Very observant, unfortunately, all internet trolls aside, and people thinking being insulting makes them patriotic too. There will be an action taken to resolve this within this nation. My hope is that the will of the people and what is best for the nation is done. What will probably happen is exactly what makes money for the bankers. Promising illegals and citizens anything. While betraying us all. Encouraging a race war too. Be smart good sir.
@ellorybockting Well I can tell you now I am not falling for Obama's promises. But until he's out of office, we are power-less against him. If he doesn't actually do the Reform in the end, he will be the one who ends up losing his job for next term, we will just keep pushing it with the next president.
@OverUniverse I see and that makes it ok for them to come here because it's all about the kids. They are told to be seditious because it motivates them to continue to come. I really cannot stand all this touchy feelly crap. I'm supposed to just let them disembowel my country for the "childrens education". I only have one thing to say about that. Hell no!
@furiesego It doesn't matter what you say, it won't stop them from giving their children the best education possible so they don't have to clumb the border when they grow up if they do go back to their country.
How does it feel to be a liberal ignorant fuck. Liberals are destroying this country one day at a time.
And I agree with tucsonpersonified, it is time to stock up on ammo, and start stocking up for when liberals completely ruin our country and all hell breaks loose.
They want to be Americans that is why they are flying the Mexican flag. They can be human beings in their country. They can fix their country instead of screwing up this one. After they did screw our country were will they migrate next. Like locust swarm to the next free meal ravaging then moving on to find something for nothing. I am buying ammo and preparing for the ruination of a nation.
A cogent argument in favor of illegal immigrants: It's called free market economics, the free movement of labor and people. Controls on labor and people is not compatible with liberty or capitalism, but with socialism.
@Ryansax1983 In that case, how would you handle borders, taxes and defense? I propose that you need them in order to accurately keep the free market from being snookered by sneaky groups and corps. Otherwise, without the entitlement system and other programs, I would agree to a point. But the idea of freedom itself needs borders in order to defend property rights.
I love it. I now love the murders, the rapes, the theft, the crime and the dependency to our tax dollars that they don't contribute to. I love it because our federal government has sold out our country. My fellow service members did NOT give their lives to the MEXICAN people, they didn't go to war for the MEXICAN people and so these illegals do not have any part in receiving the luxuries of their sacrifices. Shame on anyone who didn't support SB1070. You're all fucked now.
@orangeagent27 Bravo, Bravo you are so right these people spit on our forefathers and those who died for the freedoms we have here. These Mexican's do not want to be American's they care not one iota for America if they did they would not be sending money back to Mexico, they would learn to speak english and they would come here legally. Everything they say is a lie, they to themselves, and they lie to their children. It's all propaganda.
If they're so proud of that toilet mexico then the fuckin' worthless spics should go back there and quit uglying up our country! Fuckin' stupid beaners...
bornhorny666 3 weeks ago
is this about ...."this use to be mexico crap" i mean common mexicans get over that shit there are so many more latinos out there working there asses to try to be accepted and become part of the USA. this dumb ass mexicans are just making shit worse in the end. this aint no mexico
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I am a trespassing thief. I decided to sneak into another country, ignoring laws, and call myself an immigrant. I have no respect for another country's culture, language, flag, or laws. I am a foreign ambassador, and proclaim myself one daily, I will use racism and PC fear to get you to call my offspring citizens of your country. I steal your jobs, steal your social services. I wave a foreign flag in your streets, and demand your citizen rights. But I yell my demands in a foreign language.
agentc73 4 months ago
Theres a Mexican flag and a Cuban flag with Che's face.
NaziCanada 5 months ago
If you are waving a mexican flag...you do not belong here! Go home where that flag belongs!! Take a few friends and family with you!
tinaw1969 7 months ago
@tinaw1969 THEN take your flag back to europe anchor baby this is native land from peru to america. your european your not american and who gives a fuck if you were born here your still not native. white people don't tell blacks to go back cuz they know deep in thier hearts what they did to our black browns
YAQUI/MEXICA NATION.
yaqui707 3 months ago
@yaqui707 My American flag doesn't belong in Europe. My American Flag belongs right here where I belong in the U.S.A.!!! Don't like it ...Lump it!!
tinaw1969 3 months ago
@tinaw1969 go wash the blood off that fucking so call freedom flag your so proud of first .
yaqui707 3 months ago
@yaqui707 LOL...I won't even argue with you anymore. You're an ass! Go back to mexico illegal!!
tinaw1969 3 months ago
@tinaw1969 go to europe and take that white cave bitch with no ass with you , go back to europe pilgrim,anchor ,cave man,wild dog .
yaqui707 3 months ago
Democrats would rather support Mexico than America.
StoogeWatcher 11 months ago
wheres the napalm when you need it?
JimyRoss 1 year ago
I'd love to open up with a machie gun
rawdawg15 1 year ago
we need tear gas and fire hoses for these illegal scum and their ilk.then ship em into the desert by mexico warning them to not come back or theyll be vulture food. then later when the "human rights babies" are all screaming for blood ignore them same as before.
these illegal scum,if someone AMERICAN was there defending the law these scum would be attacking them.
these people are terrorists and should be treated as such!
sheriff Joe is A true American hero!
jimjonesable 1 year ago
@jimjonesable terrorist whithout a gun? hahahahaha lot of immigrants all they want is work, the terrorist are the politics in the world. no human is illegal!
marvincini 1 year ago
@marvincini Let them fix their own country, and stop fucking up ours.
Willaev 1 year ago
@Willaev i'll tell the same thing, let the people of the midle east fix their own problem! stop killing people just for gas!
marvincini 1 year ago
Where were the tear gas and fire hoses? That's the proper way to deal with these people.
zTiamaTz 1 year ago
che simbolo de incoformidad!!! y nosotros los latinos no estamos conformes por el odio racial. hasta siempre che!
marvincini 1 year ago
in america we speak english!
jimjonesable 1 year ago
@jimjonesable well you mean united states cause fron mexico all the way to argentina north, central and south america we speak spanish
marvincini 1 year ago
lol.i was there.most people who attended that day did NOT bus in from other states.and most of the people are NOT illegals or "union thugs".a lot were Americans and from AZ.
TheAbydos2010 1 year ago
Until they learn to wave the right flag, I have no sympathy for their situation. If they have so much pride in Mexico, please, by all means, GO BACK.
gmrobert123 1 year ago 4
@gmrobert123 ur stupid
bubbathenaslover 1 year ago
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TheSuburbanTechni... Read my previous email it says it all now go play ninja little boy!
HDNKR 1 year ago
wtf thats so fucked up im hispanic but this makes me sick ughh :\
2253546942214 1 year ago
This is very very wrong...
Amandandoug 1 year ago
Obama needs to stop being a media whore and worrying about his next election and fix this issue.That stupid judge didnt do anything but made things worse.
glassangel0000 1 year ago
The government just wants them around for the cheap labor that is it.If it wasnt for that they wouldnt give a crap about them.
glassangel0000 1 year ago
AMERICA IF YOU KNOW OF ILLEGALS TURN THEM IN TO (ICE) IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT!! IF YOU KNOW OF COMPANIES THAT EMPLOY ILLEGALS TURN THEM IN AND THERE IS A VERY NICE REWARD! ITS TIME TO TAKE BACK AMERICA FROM LAW BREAKERS NO MATTER WHAT COLOR THEY ARE.
HDNKR 1 year ago
The problem is in Mexico, our government has allowed us to come to this country to beg and they do not mind doing anything for us, we are alone and I hope we go on, unfortunately we are living this life of rejection and discrimination, incredible to see how the world is running out
ValazoXlife 1 year ago
man fuck all them mexicans
daviddavido 1 year ago
@daviddavido MAN SHUT YUR ASS UP YU FUKKIN RED NECK GO BCK TO TEXAS. WE MEXICANS GONNA ALWAYS AND FOR EVER GONNA STAY HERE ITS OUR AMERICAN HAVENT YU HEARD BY 2012 THERES GONNA BE MORE AND MORE AND MORE MEXICANS SO GO FUK YUR MOM AND UUR DAD AND LEAVE US ALONE CUZ WE AINT GOING NOOOOOOOOOO WHERE
ak47992 1 year ago
@ak47992 so what your saying is America The Home of the Brave and Land of the Free is going to become Land of the Vile and Home of the Out-Law criminals!
seriouslysad 1 year ago
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HDNKR 1 year ago 3
@HDNKR BITCH IN CASE YOUR ASS DIDNT KNOW THE USA WAS MEXICO FIRST THE WHOLE WEST SIDE ALL OF THAT WAS MEXICO . AND YALL REDNECKS TELLING US TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE CAME FORM WE ALREADY IN THE PLACE WHERE WE CAME FORM BECAUSE AMERICA WAS OUR AMERICAN AND HOW DARE YOU CALL MY COUNTRY A SHITHOLE BITCH MY COUNTRY AINT THAT ITS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WHOLE WORLD WE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE SAME NAMES LIKE KIND BILLY BOB .DO ME A FAVOR SEE WHO WHICH RACE IS GONNA POPULATED THE US ITS GONA BE MEXICANS!!!!!
ak47992 1 year ago
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HDNKR 1 year ago
@HDNKR AMERICA CAN TRY WHAT EVER THEY WANT BUT GUESS WHAT WE ARE NOT GOING NO WHERE
ak47992 1 year ago
@ak47992 Dude youre stupid I have already turned in many illegals to ICE and I and others will continue to do so!!! Anywhere I know there are illegals we will turn them in and "IT DONT MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY'RE FROM" Hopefully youre getting the picture!! All we have to do is call ICE and thats it!! So maybe youre not going anywhere but as many as I can find they certainly will be leaving and the border will slowly get tighter and tighter!!
HDNKR 1 year ago
@HDNKR LOOK YOU DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT FOR THE LAST TIME YOU CAN KEEP ON SENDING US OVER THERE THATS JUST A WASTE OFF TIME BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO KEEP COMING BACK
ak47992 1 year ago
@ak47992 You can come back but you wil starve as work goes away and you'll go home skinnier than when you came here
caseyshattuck 1 year ago
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@HDNKR - White people are just assholes like your self.
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
@ak47992 - I must say we did steal your guys land, which am sorry about it. You guys should be telling Americans what to do Really. White People are assholes. least the Raciest ones are.
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
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HDNKR 1 year ago
@HDNKR - First of all your a Dumbass. Another thing Am legal. White people stole the land of the True Americans. Why don't go back to Eropone were you belong.
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
@TheSuburbanTechnique Like I said before if all Europeans left America, Mexico would just become a LARGER SHITHOLE! BTW....Quit living in the past D-Bag! You Mexicans couldnt do shit with Mexi-shithole youd just end up following us to Europe and feed off of us there too!
HDNKR 1 year ago
@TheSuburbanTechnique AMERICANS IF YOU KNOW OF ANY ILLEGAL ALIENS HERE IN THE U.S. AND IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT COLOR THEY ARE YOU MUST REPORT THEM!! IF YOU KNOW OF ANY COMPANIES EMPLOYING ILLEGALS YOU MUST REPORT THEM TO "IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT" AND THERE IS A REWARD!!!! LETS TAKE BACK THE AMERICA OUR ANCESTORS CREATED!!
HDNKR 1 year ago
@HDNKR - lets Deport you white boy shit.
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
@TheSuburbanTechnique Hey listen Ninjaboy just play with youre ninja toys and let the grown ups work out this Illegal Immigration! BTW...you couldnt deport a 2 year old you young little spank!
HDNKR 1 year ago
@HDNKR This maybe a Dumb Question. Why don't you give up and stop Commenting back. This does seem very Childrened now doesn't it?
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
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@TheSuburbanTechnique Read my previous email and that says it all now go play!
HDNKR 1 year ago
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@TheSuburbanTechnique Read my previous email it says it all now go play ninja!
HDNKR 1 year ago
@TheSuburbanTechnique Go play ninja!
HDNKR 1 year ago
@HDNKR - I all really have. Plus Ninja is so gernilyest word also. What are we talking about the Movies Type or the Real ones, Or the Modern day Ninjas. Am Panamaian Ninja dude Your stole our land, And you should be the one to be Deported this is my Fainl Comment ass.
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
@TheSuburbanTechnique Like I said GO PLAY NINJA~
HDNKR 1 year ago
@TheSuburbanTechnique u god dam spic lover
leapordonmyright 1 year ago
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glassangel0000 1 year ago
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glassangel0000 1 year ago
@HDNKR Well said.
wbradss 1 year ago
Burn that jail down, BBQ all those crook fascist amerikkkan cops and FREE all the prisoners.
AsianManDotCom 1 year ago
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Arrest every single one of those fuckers.
JimboVids 1 year ago
just don't come to Calif stay in Arizona or go home losers
billyjoelmartin 1 year ago
burn those mexican flags
billyjoelmartin 1 year ago
We have a vibrant Hispanic Community in Houston & although you see some Nationalism for their home country it usually passes with 1 generation & you'll see their children waving the American flag, & whereas they came over her with names like Jose & Marie, you see them giving their children names like John & Mary, & whereas they sometimes come from families w/ 10-12 children, once here they mostly have 1,2 or 3 - they acclimate fairly fast.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
yeahh im mexicanamerican an against the sb1070 but it us kinda of dum that theres no american flags there always has to b a dum ass fucking shit up and for there fault we all get judge but we all love an thank this state for the wonderful opprtntys please dnt judge
89urqueen 1 year ago
let's check up on Che Guevera's illegal immigration policy in Cuba...I'm guessing jailed and tortured for weeks and constantly interrogated as to whether or not you're a capitalist saboteur sent to disrupt the Peoples' Paradise? Then murdered or given a long prison sentence.
Of course criminal Marxists are out supporting criminality, they couldn't do otherwise.
RuflessRecords 1 year ago
Where are the American Flags?????????????????
1947songbe 1 year ago
And they only come here quietly to pick lettuce.
This proves they are worthless scum. I mean just look at what they did to Mexico, and what they are trying to do to us.
rawdawg15 1 year ago
Time to bust a few mellons...
hooya13 1 year ago
That was the perfect opportunity for grilled tacos.
Somebody should have poured gasoline on them from above and flicked a match.
FatalBitchslap 1 year ago
drop a grenade in the middle of that crowd asap...
viper22jc 1 year ago
This is a disgrace, waving a mexican flag and a cuban flag with a freakin commie pic of che, im a vet and this is embarrassing, kind of makes me wonder why?
rangerman012 1 year ago 13
American patriots; We are at war with Mexico and a rogue federal government. If we want the southwest to remain part of the United States, we must act now. The purge must continue, no matter what some bonehead federal judge says. There are provisions in the Constitution to deal with this.
scasired 1 year ago
@Over Universe...My comment was in reference to the folks who use Che Guevara as an idol....he openly ridiculed Mexicans......and you should take your own advice....you don't know them either, and they aren't all GOOD either. It is normal, at your age to be very liberal and want to make the world a better place. What you don't realize is how many people actually want to make it a WORSE` place.
Reality bites.......
crumpta 1 year ago
You can think AFICLO AND SEIU for this bull shit!Che Guevara Marxist pussy and most of the dumb ass people know it!
killergames187 1 year ago
@killergames187 this I can agree with we can blame them for this propoganda for sure. Except Che isn't a pussy as you put it. He was a brutal murderer who killed anyone who opposed him and Fidel Castro. This is how the few gain power over the many except we know this dance and I for one refuse this to happen here in America. You guys who think that things would be better under Socialist, Marxist, or Communist rule just don't read your history. Or you only read their views, fools.
furiesego 1 year ago
The KKK's members are very active in this forum...
6375728 1 year ago
@6375728 Apparently you are another one of those who think this is about Race as well. Hello! It's about sovereignty not race idiot. Read your freaking history dumb ass.
furiesego 1 year ago
these people need to go back to mexico ...wow i was at WORK when this was filmed maybe that is the point here wish i had all the time in the world to go hang out in front of a jail and protest anything and ya'll would still pay me WELFARE to do it wow the world would be a better place!
ice1727 1 year ago
This people is what your president allows to happen in OUR country. They prefer to protect the rights of foreign invaders over the rights of their OWN citizens. *facepalm*
escrotumus 1 year ago
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deport all illegals
emarie6686 1 year ago
These folks are walking advertisements for mass deportations that will, hopefully, result in the removal of a lot of illegals who will take their offspring with them.
DerailAmnestydotcom 1 year ago
If they are upset thinking their American rights are being taken away, why wave the Mexican flag? Flying the Mexican flag gives us insight into the crowd's mentality. They're not in the U.S. to be American. They're coming here to be Mexicans. They identify themselves as Mexican. They don't want to be American, they just want American social services and jobs.
MrHazmat13 1 year ago
Disgraceful they're holding a Che Guevara and Mexican flag!
kisscactus 1 year ago 2
Get those filthy bastards out of this country!
DontmesswiththeUSA 1 year ago
we need to go to war with the bastards down south. put up defensive fighing positions, sniper nests, mine fields, bradley's, abrahms, and strykers, and apaches, kiowas, and little birds. send air strikes on any target that sends these militias across our borders. if your caught sneaking across the border you should be shot on sight. another thing we should do is have predetermined grid coordinates for mortars and artillary strikes and put special forces and delta forces in select border towns.
deacongowan 1 year ago
Stupid Fuckin' spanish speaking indians!!! Che, was a communist outlaw who would have put a bullet in most of YOUR heads for being too liberal. He was a CONSEVATIVE IDEALIST!!! you liberal fucktards!!!
BoilermakerX 1 year ago
Soooo, no american flag, to represent their AMERICAN rights they want to protect so much... The fly a Mexican flag and a marxist flag.... I'm all for freedom of speech, but these people are trying to subvert it for something that is strictly NON-American. And in the end, others will pay. This is a soft invasion and should be treated as such. These people are not even American at heart. And you know what, neither is Obama.
ellorybockting 1 year ago 61
@ellorybockting They are trying to do civil disobedience, not follow the laws and show american flags. They showed american flags through all their protests, this is more of a civil disobedience....
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse Civil disobedience is done as a non-compliance. When Ghandi did it, he did it in the spirit of India. When Dr King did, he did in the spirit of America. This is not as much as civil disobedience as a statement that says "because we are mexican, we can get away with this." They are not proud of being American. And that says everything we, as Americans need to hear from them. There is no excuse for waving those flags in that matter. Unless you felt you was Mexican, not American.....
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting A lot of them were born under the Mexican flag, and joined the US. And this law made them feel like their own country gave them a stab in the back, so they use the flag to represent where they came from, and it also represents the country who is backing them up. When they protest, the American flag is all over the place because it represents that they are on the American side, and that someone needs to hear them because they are part of this nation too.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse I can see what you are saying, but it doesn't hold water. Let me help you understand how others will see this. These people are simply not Americans in their hearts. It's that simple. And doing something like flying those flags while in protest shows us that. I have many friends in AZ and I live in texas. I have YET to see these protest carry he stars and stripes proudly. Infact, I have seen video of them attacking our flag. Until they become American, I will not accept them here.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting Isn't it concidered a freedom to be able to burn a flag without being criminals... I saw the mexican flag get burned down 2 times in my life, and 1 time the American flag, I find both sides very sad, but its better to attack the flag, rather than the people. You have also forgotten there are also people hugging the flag, putting it around themselves, and being proud of it. If you ignore these and just pay attention to these. you have a very short view of things.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse I think you should reread my comments. I never once thought it a crime to bear a Mexican flag sir. Nor have I said I would take that right away. My consistent point has been mindset. Where do they place their loyalties. And since this is more about taxes and money and benefits and not race, it makes waving a Mexican flag look bad to Americans. It's all about where they are mentally. My view is fine.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting Let them be then. As long as you're not the one waving the flag why should you be worried?
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse What bull shit is that?I work with ten illegal Mexican and they don't care about the American flag one dam bit so stop your lying!They put the shit rag Mexican flag on their cars,house,hate's and not one of them have a American flag.They have them hear so you think they care but they don't!!
killergames187 1 year ago
@killergames187 He has not cursed or insulted a whole nation's flag yet. He has been discussing this respectably and should not be treated in kind. I understand your frustration. I am deeply enraged over this in my heart as well! I am as patriotic as the next guy. Been deployed 3 times for this nation. But I asking you to please show him American respect for proving a simple point. If you can't then honestly, you will come off as thug-ish.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting As you know people have died for us to be free and they wave that Mexican flag like it is so great and i can show you video after video wear illegal Mexican show no respect to the American flag in the same video they are demanding the rights of American's and that is ok?If you go to Mexico and do that they will kill you!
killergames187 1 year ago
@killergames187 I care, I have donated to the AZ support fund, signed petitions and support all videos expressing these views. and I have shown I care while discussing this. But I do so honorably. And I don't feel the need to insult Mexico or anyone while I am at it. I have fought to hard to resort to it. He is a young man, and young minds are often just unaware of the larger world. And wether you like it or not, the young will be next in line. So guide them well.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@killergames187 I have a friend that puts the germany flag on her car all the time.... and everyone will always be proud of their country they came from no matter what. And they felt that the disobedience should not need any American flag. Why? I don't know, but it was their decision in the end. It's not wrong to put a Mexican flag up in the end either. my school has a Mexican flag in the lunch room and no one complains about it like you do.. people are more mature these days.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse You make no cense with your argument. 1. This is not their country and they show that by carrying Mexican Flags. 2. Their own country did stab them in the back way back when Santa Ana sold CA, AZ, TX, NV, CO, UT territories to US for $25 million dollars. So why would they want to represent where they came from if they want rights here. I'll tell you why because they care not for America they want it back and will do anything to get it back. We don't need to hear them period.
furiesego 1 year ago
@furiesego Oh yea... they're all saying. WE WANT OUR LAND BACK! Hell no. It's been a long time since the land was bought from Mexico, they're not angry about that still. This is a disobedience against Sb1070 not a disobedience about Mexico selling its land to the US. And they want to represent where they came from because its their choice. This is a free country and carrying a Mexican flag shouldn't automatically make u think "Oh they don't care about me!" grow up.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse You make a good point, it is a free country. But then our opinions count too. I would have to ask you to consider what would happen to a country without an identity. What if more people waved the American flag in Mexico whenever they disagreed with what the government did? My point is this, disobedience, cloaked like this is an insight into where they place their loyalties. I'm glad we have free speech, it let's us know who really stands for America. You can't wiggle out of it.
ellorybockting 1 year ago 13
@ellorybockting First of all, just like every other country, Mexico is not as understanding as the US is. We have people of every ethnicity here and everyone is free to say what they want, Mexico isn't like that, so you can't compare it to America this time.I understand their disobedience is for a great cause, so I'm not worried. I'm just worried about people who try to look for things they do wrong all the time and never even look at the things they do right.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse Try to understand sir, It's a question of what are they fighting for? For American rights? Or for their rights? When the stats all show things like 70% to 90% of the open warrants for homicide come from illegals (not just Mexicans) and whole hospitals on the boarder are closing down due to illegals (that one IS Mexicans) and Whole states are collapsing under the strain, America needs to do something. And Amnesty is a trick. Please PM me if you want me to explain. I hope you do.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting They are fighting for their American rights. Like for example, they were mad because as an migrant citizen of the US, their rights could be broken by corrupt officers such as Arpaio. Any day you forget to bring your documents with you, you will find yourself in jail for a whole month, less or more, with those corrupted officers. Yes I do agree with you that Amnesty is a trick, its the only way people will collaborate to get background checks and make it that much safer.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse Racially motivated attacks is disgusting to any true American. And I have heard the stories. And I can tell you of horror stories from the other side of the fence. Ones of how illegals are using their status to get away with murder and drug running. The simple fact is, immigration reform needs to happen. I have seen what people need to go through to get here. And it needs work. However, in the mean time the sheer numbers of illegals are hurting America. It just so happens that
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting Yea, unfortunately I heard some too. And I completely agree with you about the reform. I just wanted to ask one question. What is being a true American to you? To me it's standing for what you believe is to be right.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse This is why I like talking about this subject with you, questions like that is a breath of fresh air. It is freedom to me. And that means that you stand for what is right for you INDEED! However, in the same breath, you have to value the country that gave you that. And with your very life defend it from people who would like to sneak it away from you. And this is a prime case of that. Saying that is a racial issue when it's about law and taxes is a sneak. But excellent question!
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting They do value the country that gave it to them. And yes, they are trying to defend their rights. Because if they just sat there with their mouth opened doing nothing about people making the decisions for them, it would be really messed up. Lets say there was a law put against people born here, applies to everyone not just white people, and it didn't affect immigrants. Lets say you didn't agree with this law, just because the State put it there, does it mean you have to follow it?
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse ROL (rule of law) is always a tricky question. Great approach BTW! However it's more subtle than that. And to be honest, your question has shown how little you have researched this subject. Did you know???
Illegals get charged 1$ for drinking and driving, no jail time.
Illegals will not get arrested for, or be denied service for lack of payment?
Illegals can not be deported even when caught while breaking a crime?
All in certain cities. So it already is that way.....
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting In what place does that apply? A relative got 10 year jail time for drinking and driving in Idaho. And I don't know about the payment stuff, my parents have always paid everything right away, and when they can't, they go to collection and get a bigger bill to pay. Only happend 2 times.
What bothers me the most are not these laws. But in some states an illegal cannot get an education, because they can't attend college. So they become criminals in some cases.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse You should do a search on sanctuary cities for illegals. It will answer those questions. And about your other statement. Good sir, they don't become criminals because they can't attend college, they already are criminals being here illegally. Don't you see that? They have no right to our tax money for anything. I can understand that you may have loved ones that are illegal. But that doesn't make it right to take peoples money like that. That's the whole point.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting All the illegals i know pay the same amount of taxes you do. And even more. Their checks get 200+ deducted just on state taxes. They have a right to it, even if it makes you angry.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse (part two) they are Mexican in Arizona. But the effect would be the same even if they were coming from Mars. They are HURTING America. And maybe more than you know. And far to many are benefiting from the illegal status.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting The only real benefit I see, is free education for their children. And Education is never a crime. Most children that come here with their parents illegally only want education, and no one should ever take education away from children, specially when they demand it.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse I completely disagree with what you say about education!!!!!!! I will not pay for the whole worlds education with my taxes. If the only rule is "brake the law and you get free education" I say WRONG! You wanna know why people are fleeing Mexico? Because the CIA run the drug cartels. And Mexico would have had a revolt years ago and taken their country back if it wasn't for the pressure valve of the illegal immigration. And you don't see the feds stopping them? You're being fooled.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting One of the rights for everyone standing in US soil is to be able to get an education. Nowhere do I see anything about illegals are an exception.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse And about education.... It is angering Americans that they are paying for education that someone else isn't paying for too. The exception is that it has became completely unfair for citizens to be demanded be illegals to pay for their medical, education and even welfair. Or do you agree that it should be this way? In case you haven't noticed, we are going into a depression.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting I don't know what you're smoking. But whatever you say, people should always have access to education. If these people get educated, they will stand a chance in their home countries if they are taken back, and will ensure they won't be coming back illegally.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse Once again, you are assuming it's Americas' job to teach Mexico. And we are not exporting Illegals. The only things the the Mexicans in specific are sending back is money to bring more here. We both know that is true sir. As for smoking, sir, I do not smoke, and I never have. Please ensure that this conversation remains respectful. Your opinion is only as valuable as its delivery. It is Mexico's job to school their citizens. Why not wave the flag their?
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting I'm sorry for the remark I said about you smoking, I shouldn't have said that. And I'm not sure why everyone came here. My parents came here for my education, nothing else. The pay is good, but miserable compared to others. And the job they have to do for it is questionable if it's worth it or not.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse Thank you, and I understand that this is a PASSIONATE sunject for many. I will be honest that there is ONE part that is absolutely breaking my heart. And that is the children born of illegal parents here. You do understand that eventually something will be done, and one way another it will create problems. If they are forced to leave, then it will help the citizens by billions, but blow back. Amnesty, and there will be blow back too. Either way, it will hurt.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting Yes it is very passionate. The amnesty is the best thing to do, since its the only thing that will get illegals to come out of the shadows, get a background check, and get their support to enforce the border. And plus, all the tens of billions they will generate for the US to become citizens will help out a lot the economy.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse Here the problem with Amnesty. And it's sometimes hard for many to understand it. It has three main issues.
1. Obama has went back on all his promises. And now needs illegals to get anywhere politically. And considering that more than half this country is so angry at him for making laws that are against the constitution we all know he works for bankers.
2. The bankers want the border open, but will not reform the immigration laws. This will make any mexican that comes here
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting Obama has been doing nothing to help. Maybe you're right, I will re-evaluate my decision. But I can tell now that if he doesn't live up to the amnesty he promised, no matter what he does to get supporters, he will lose on the next election indefinitely.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse illegal but could get amnesty any time. But bankers have already admitted they want it a better deal for them to remain illegal.
3. Most of the illegals would go on welfair (sorry, maybe your family is better, but there is not legal work for them where they exist) This would be ever harder on the system than they already are. Please think about this before you consider how Amnesty would benefit the bankers, and the few. But America as a whole.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@OverUniverse In other words, the deal would be even sweeter for the illegals, but even worse for the rest of America. And once again, they wave an American flag. Now you ignore the talking points the media and lobbyist groups put out and read the laws, you see it's not about race. But profits, the bankers own the CIA, and they want to make even more money, they can do this if Americans can lose their rights and money. It's always about money, and who wants it. Race is a distraction.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting Good sir, I have deeply enjoyed your point of view and wanted to express your arguing style has been refreshingly clear and passionate with out the curse words. If you truly believe that is right to grant Amnesty then look into if wether or not that would stop the illegals, and if wether or not that would cost America even more. And look into who really profits from these actions. And lastly,what is ethically right when taking someone else money.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting I do not doubt that there are some who pay some taxes. But sir, you can do even a moderate search online and find the statistics that will show you that illegals are a negative net return for America. Meaning, that illegals are actually making America lose billions every year. There is absolutely no benefit to them in this country to anyone but THEM. Add the sanctuary cities and this is why it hits a nerve when they wave a Mexican flag. They have a good deal, and want us to pay.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@OverUniverse Do you really think so you don't live in Arizona do you or in California for that matter or at least not in LA. Don't you know that is what LA Raza teaches. Silly boy do you really think that I would say something without knowing something of what I talk about. They teach sedition based on the fact that "we" live in their occupied country. Regardless of the fact that we did in fact paid for it. Study your history son.
furiesego 1 year ago
@furiesego These people have their families separated, some of this might be some pep talk to calm them down and let them keep fighting for their rights. I have been to a few of their conferences. They are really smart and talented people, but everyone has their flaws in this world.
In a country well the police is against them, they need a lot of motivation to let them keep going regardless on any bill they hit them with, it's all about the kids and to make sure they get an education.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse
Are you shitting me? Let these bastards fight a revolution in THEIR countries and fight for Freedom and Liberty like OUR forefathers did starting in 1775.
These communist thugs live in shit hole countries, and come up here and want to make America like the shit hole they left.
To hell with that. Start putting their asses in prison.
We need to adopt MEXICO's immigration policy. If you are illegal there, they just shoot you. That would cut all of this bullshit out.
garyp4205 1 year ago
@garyp4205 Ok so let me get this straight. First you call Mexico a shithole... then you want to follow what they are doing?
Can you please re-phrase....
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse
Mexico is a shithole. It remains a shithole because of the oppresive stance they take against foreigners. This is a country that could actually use immigrants because their population is so worthless, but they are oppresive towards them. Did you know that nearly the entire city of Mexicali was once chinese immigrants to Mexico but the Mexicans killed them off?
We need to follow what they are doing because Mexicans will do to this country what they have done to theirs.
rawdawg15 1 year ago
@rawdawg15 - I don't think Mexico is as opposed to foreigners coming in as you suggest. It is fairly easy for an American to get a 6 month VISA & then to return to the USA & keep renewing it time & time again.
Many thousands of Americans have done this & live in their own homes in Mexico in their own subdividions - the living costs, including medical, is much less.
These ppl are now worried that if Mexicans are massively deported from the USA, they'll lose their VISAs & homes.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
@DillonDee1
Really, well it says in the Mexican constitution that foreigners aren't allowed to earn land within 50 miles of a border or a beach. Look it up, the number of distance might not be exact but it is true.
rawdawg15 1 year ago
@rawdawg15 -- that's the way it used to be, but now Americans are no longer restricted that way & you'll find many $1,000,000.00 beach homes in Mexico owned by Americans.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
@rawdawg15 Yea, and I agree with you on that. If the US took the same proceedures on imigration as mexico... it would be a shithole
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse See now why I like chatting with you lol. Respect is something that sadly people from all countries and walks of life seem to think is waived when discussing a passionate subject lol.
For all those that choose to be so disrespectful please go back and see how this young man and I was able to chat about this honorably and even learn from each other. If you are American, please show how we learned to be more respectful than those waiving that flag on our lands like that.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting I respect that we have our differences, but in a way, if everyone agreed to everything... it would be a very controlling and boring world. I like how people show their beliefs, but I hate when they start talking bad about people. Sometimes I wonder if they even have a conscience.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse Very observant, unfortunately, all internet trolls aside, and people thinking being insulting makes them patriotic too. There will be an action taken to resolve this within this nation. My hope is that the will of the people and what is best for the nation is done. What will probably happen is exactly what makes money for the bankers. Promising illegals and citizens anything. While betraying us all. Encouraging a race war too. Be smart good sir.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting Well I can tell you now I am not falling for Obama's promises. But until he's out of office, we are power-less against him. If he doesn't actually do the Reform in the end, he will be the one who ends up losing his job for next term, we will just keep pushing it with the next president.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@OverUniverse I see and that makes it ok for them to come here because it's all about the kids. They are told to be seditious because it motivates them to continue to come. I really cannot stand all this touchy feelly crap. I'm supposed to just let them disembowel my country for the "childrens education". I only have one thing to say about that. Hell no!
furiesego 1 year ago
@furiesego It doesn't matter what you say, it won't stop them from giving their children the best education possible so they don't have to clumb the border when they grow up if they do go back to their country.
OverUniverse 1 year ago
@Ryansax1983
How does it feel to be a liberal ignorant fuck. Liberals are destroying this country one day at a time.
And I agree with tucsonpersonified, it is time to stock up on ammo, and start stocking up for when liberals completely ruin our country and all hell breaks loose.
God Bless the Minute Men.
thehondakiller 1 year ago
Waving a flag featuring the face of a dirtbag commie who tried to wipe the US off the face of the Earth on 2 different occasions...how fitting!
TRorHemingway 1 year ago
They want to be Americans that is why they are flying the Mexican flag. They can be human beings in their country. They can fix their country instead of screwing up this one. After they did screw our country were will they migrate next. Like locust swarm to the next free meal ravaging then moving on to find something for nothing. I am buying ammo and preparing for the ruination of a nation.
tucsonpersonified 1 year ago 4
This is why teargas was invented! The dirty wetbacks do this again.....go spray the shit out of them! It will be fun to watch that
RUSHisRIGHT09 1 year ago 4
@RUSHisRIGHT09
How does it feel to be a totally worthless racist asshole?
Ryansax1983 1 year ago
@Ryansax1983 how does it feel to be brainwashed and constantly manipulated??
RUSHisRIGHT09 1 year ago
@RUSHisRIGHT09
Coming from the idiot named "rushisright"
Ryansax1983 1 year ago
@Ryansax1983 How does it feel to be someone who has to race-bait because he is incapable of making a cogent argument in favor of illegal immigrants?
DerailAmnestydotcom 1 year ago
@DerailAmnestydotcom Its not race baiting when calling someone using the term "wetbacks" a racist you moron.
Ryansax1983 1 year ago
@DerailAmnestydotcom
A cogent argument in favor of illegal immigrants: It's called free market economics, the free movement of labor and people. Controls on labor and people is not compatible with liberty or capitalism, but with socialism.
Ryansax1983 1 year ago
@Ryansax1983 Wait, does that mean that in favor of capitalism you favor Amnesty?
ellorybockting 1 year ago
@ellorybockting In favor of free markets I favor government staying out of it all together.
Ryansax1983 1 year ago
@Ryansax1983 In that case, how would you handle borders, taxes and defense? I propose that you need them in order to accurately keep the free market from being snookered by sneaky groups and corps. Otherwise, without the entitlement system and other programs, I would agree to a point. But the idea of freedom itself needs borders in order to defend property rights.
ellorybockting 1 year ago
Mexicant's will lead the United States into a 2nd Civil War!!!
chaloner 1 year ago 2
I love it. I now love the murders, the rapes, the theft, the crime and the dependency to our tax dollars that they don't contribute to. I love it because our federal government has sold out our country. My fellow service members did NOT give their lives to the MEXICAN people, they didn't go to war for the MEXICAN people and so these illegals do not have any part in receiving the luxuries of their sacrifices. Shame on anyone who didn't support SB1070. You're all fucked now.
orangeagent27 1 year ago 8
@orangeagent27 Bravo, Bravo you are so right these people spit on our forefathers and those who died for the freedoms we have here. These Mexican's do not want to be American's they care not one iota for America if they did they would not be sending money back to Mexico, they would learn to speak english and they would come here legally. Everything they say is a lie, they to themselves, and they lie to their children. It's all propaganda.
furiesego 1 year ago
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.....view of a ticking time bomb.....
DaffysTrike 1 year ago