Baby Jules (the most beautiful baby) in the car

[TheWhatev1300]

hes cute :) 

[Cupcake6661]

ok this baby isnt the cutest baby ever. ive seen better

[remyd2323]

Love Love this baby, he is most beautiful baby I've ever seen, So adorable, yum

[babyboomboom0029]

She is very cute. Just to let you know I think the harness straps are too loose. You might want to tighten them to keep your little one safer.

[sexyhanice]

so cute

[survivedall]

cute baby, I must say. but gosh people, I think the point was taken about the seat. needs to be fixed. everyone is human, and ya'll should not take up 6 pages fighting! the point wasn't to start fights. I'm sure the mother will fix it.

[MorganandEedna]

Your baby is beautiful, but dont you want to keep her protected? Fix her car seat. It could save her life one day.

[MorganandEedna]

That car seat is insane. Your baby is WAYY TO SMALL for that seat. The harness straps are falling off her shoulders

[tinkwink92]

I really don't want to start up another argument, but the baby is an okay size for the seat, the straps need tightening is all.

[MorganandEedna]

yea i know i commented on that a long time ago. What I ment to say is that the straps are off, thats all. :)There also should be a chest clip but, Idk if they are in the U.S. so..yea :)

[tinkwink92]

They aren't, but other countries should put chest clips...

[MorganandEedna]

yea I know, idk why they dont. I mean isn't Britax European, why are we like the only country that has chest clips? Shouldn't they have them in Europe if Britax is there and they make seats for us?? I dont know..

[tinkwink92]

Yeah, and Britax is like the safest seat out there, I guess they just made the chest clips here because it's requirement, and it's not there...

[princesssamplethis]

The reason that they do not have chest clips is because in Europe it is law that there can only be "one step" to remove a child from the seat in case of an accident. A chest clip would make it two steps. A chest clip will break in an accident. The purpose of them is to keep the straps in the correct position on the shoulders.

[luvbeingluvd]

The reason Europe doesn't have chest slips is because their harnesses are designed different. The chest clip is made to keep the harness in place. In Europe the chest clip isn't needed because the harness is made so the straps are already in the proper place, in the USA our are spaced a little farther apart making the chest clip a needed addition.

[mommydayna]

perhaps the manual that accompanied your infant seat (tinkwink-if that is what you are using) only specified rear-facing harness instructions, in which case you are correct about the straps. if your child were to ride in forward facing seat, the opposite would be true (straps at or above) and the manual would reflect so.

[cnlcc]

If you dont think that all these ladies are right. why dont you read your manual right now? i keep looking at your video saying what a cute little boy i would hate for him to get hurt because you wanted to be right. If i was you i would be thinking what if these ladies are right? wouldnt you feel better knowing that you did everything you could do to keep that sweet sweet baby safe in his carseat?

[tinkwink92]

I did read my manual. I just read it earlier today to be sure i was being right

[rjandlh]

Which car seat is this if you don't mind my asking?

[rjandlh]

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. You are wrong, and you must know it. If you actually did read a manual, you would see you are wrong. If not then I would say you are just trying to get a rise out of people. Car accidents are the NUMBER ONE killer of children, and you really should think twice before making a joke out of people trying to help save a child's life.

You could not possibly have read in any manual that the straps go below the shoulders when forward facing.

[tinkwink92]

tha manual said at the shoulders and said NOTHING about above.

[rjandlh]

From the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (you can go onto the nhtsa website and find this in the "Are you using it right" section under child passenger safety.

- Harness straps on forward-facing restraints should be positioned at, or slightly above, the child's shoulders.

From Safekids, the organization who certifies car seat techs. You can find this at Safekids dot org.

-Put harnesses through the slots so they are even with or above the child's shoulders.

[rjandlh]

Graco (page 16 of the manual) Harness straps must be through middle or top slots at or above shoulders

Sunshine Kids (page 33) Forward Facing: Straps should be in nearest slot at or above the level of child's shoulders

Cosco FAQ's For a child that is in the forward facing toddler position, the straps must be even with or above the child's shoulders

Britax (page 30) Forward-Facing Strap Height: Harness straps should be located in the nearest slot at or above the child's shoulder

[rjandlh]

I suppose you know more than the manufacturers of the car seats, the government organization who monitors car seats, and the organization who teaches car seat techs. Wow you are good.

[PickledRednecks]

It's ok ladies, I'm pretty sure anyone that reads this is going to realize tinkwink is a nutter and doesn't have a clue what she's talking about.

[tinkwink92]

k people i though i said i was DONE. k? people make mistakes and apparently i made one according to you people. just DISREGARD what i said and remember, NOBODY IS PERFECT!

[rjandlh]

Yes no one is perfect. It wasn't that you were giving wrong advice, but the way you approached this was rude and that rubbed people the wrong way! You were rude in how you spoke to people, and you were wrong, but instead of checking your facts you continued to spout incorrect facts and criticize those trying to help. I just hope no one believed what you said. And you didn't say you meant WAY above, you said they should always be below, so you can't blame people for correcting you.

[tinkwink92]

im sorry that i am human amd made a mistake! I meant like WAY above the shoulders not slightly!

[KatMomof3]

hi... you have a beautiful son... but the straps are too loose

For those arguing... she's using a seat that isn't sold in the US (henceforth no chest clip) and in foreign country, the rule is harnesses ALWAYS starting above the shoulders

the carseats and more board at delphi board is full of military and foreign ladies, as well as many child passenger safety technicians, and this is where I found this out.

[tinkwink92]

i have a child thank you and BTW, i was being sarcastic

[PickledRednecks]

I just want to point out that the person arguing is NOT the original video poster. And I'm sure that harmonker (the OP) just was not aware of how loose the straps are.

[momtob]

The harness s/b AT or Below the shoulders for RF mode (prevents "ramping up" past the top of the shell in a frontal crash) & AT or Above in FF mode (prevents the childs head from flying fwd too far, neck & spinal compression injuries). And why would a whole bunch of people come on here and lie to you? Don't take our word for it tho- do your own actual research!! AND Why would you laugh if one of our kids were hurt in a crash? That is just mean.

[tinkwink92]

k whoever would believe that i would actually laugh are stupid....i would just say that you should have listened to me i want thinking when i typed that cuz i was just sad because there are so many kids in danger cuz the straps are above their heads! trhats dangerous!

[PickledRednecks]

I'm done arguing with you because you refuse to actually research... I took the quote DIRECTLY off of the car seat safety site used by EVERY certified tech. Hopefully anyone that reads this will realize you are just being stubborn and refuse to admit you're wrong.

[tinkwink92]

actually, I HAVE done reasearch...and I KNOW a tech. thanks!

[PickledRednecks]

Are you from out of the states?

[tinkwink92]

nope i am from the U.S.

[PickledRednecks]

Never mind I checked and it says you are in the states. So I'm going to ask you to back up your research and your statement. Should be easy enough if you're right.

[cnlcc]

why try to be right when you could be regretting this decision later. we are not trying to gang up on you. we are just trying to inform you. if you have done research then the straps would be snug on your son and at or above his shoulders for forward facing. we are all just trying to look out for your son as we dont want him hurt. cuz of a mistake that could have been corrected. think of him and not us keep him safe please that is all we want.

[PickledRednecks]

Honey the person arguing is not the person that posted the video. The person that posted the video lives out of country and in that case the straps should be above his shoulders, the only thing wrong being the loose harness. The person arguing however is in the states.

[cnlcc]

yeah saw that. looked at tinkwink92 and even with her kid she is using what looks to be an after market headrest. what i dont get is why is tinkwink92 arguing with us? think she is trying to cause problems /sigh

[tinkwink92]

you know what? i'm DONE....and tht headrest is brand new from wal mart! I should only be caring about my child's safety and nobody else's it seems....so i guess i just wont mention enything if i think something is wrong with the height of the straps...

look at the video posted on my page of the kid in the car seat (not cameron but a different kid in a bigger carseat) whoever thinks that is safe is INSANE

whoever thinks that is safe is INSANE.

[tinkwink92]

the video under my favorites is the one i ma talking about. does that look safe? no it doesn't. i understand slightly above, i mean that far above as the kid's straps are in that video.

[rjandlh]

Well, its good that you understand "slightly above", but why did you keep insisting to never have them above and saying they should always be at or below? Forward facing they should never be below, even a little.

[rjandlh]

The point of the after market headrest wasn't that it was "brand new from wal mart" it was that you should never add something to the car seat "after market", like a headrest, it is unsafe unless put there by the manufacturer.

[tinkwink92]

then why do they sell them? hmmm???

[rjandlh]

Umm...to make money? The same reason they sell cigarettes or anything else that is unsafe...

Here is what Evenflo says, but I could show you any manufacturer (Cosco, Graco, Britax, etc).

"DO NOT attach additional padding, toys, or other devices not made by Evenflo to the child restraint. Items not tested with the child restraint could injure the child." (This statement can be found under the Warnings section of all Evenflo Child Restraint manuals)

[buildercon]

Absolutely adorable!!! But PLEASE secure him properly, car seats do no good if they aren't used properly

[Cullene]

dido,cutest baby! but he'd fly right out of that harness staight at the windsheid at a force of his body weight multiplied by the speed of the crash (ei: if he weights 25lbs, car crashes at only 30 mph, he is now 750 pounds hurling towards the front. Sorry so blunt, just want you to enjoy your supercute baby, not regret anything.

[SamPaceyJoshua]

He's gorgeous and has quite a personality!

However, I can't help but notice how loose his harness is! His straps are falling off of his shoulders and that is very unsafe! While rear-facing, his straps should be at or below his shoulders...forward-facing they should start at or above. Either way, they should be very snug against his body (no slack). I didn't see a chestclip, but if there is one, it should be at armpit level.

I would just hate for anything to happen to your little man!

[tinkwink92]

sampaceyjoshua, the harness should be at or below in forward facing too

[cttnjss]

i think sampaceyjoshua is right... below when rearfacing.. at or above fowardfacing ...i think if it is below when forward facing it can do some damage to the spine,, but i'm sure others woudl be abel to explain it better than me.. by the way he is ADORABLE....

[tinkwink92]

no..I took a carseat class and they said to NEVER have the shoulder part of the harness above their shoulders.

[PickledRednecks]

I'm sorry tinkwink but my CPS and my carseat manual specifically state the harness should be ABOVE forward facing and BELOW rear facing

[tinkwink92]

well sorry pickle but i have had many car seats and have taken a car seat class and the manuals and the instructor said to have the buckles at or below. THANKS. NEVER EVER have the harness above the shoulders!!

[PickledRednecks]

Ladies read your manuals.....ALWAYS read your manuals.

[PickledRednecks]

Oh yes, and SamPaceyJoshua IS a Car seat tech.

[drearina]

Rednecks is ABSOLUTELY correct. At or below for rear facing, above for forward facing.

And yes, please tighten those straps!!!

[tinkwink92]

k when all your kids die in a crash becuase there is a flaw in how they are buckled in, all i will do is laugh in your faces saying told you so you should listen to people who took car seat classes and READ the manuals! THANKS goodbye.

[drearina]

carseat lady DOT com

"Since a rear-facing child is likely to slide up the seat in a crash, the shoulder straps should start slightly BELOW the child's shoulders and come up and over in order to best prevent the child from sliding up too much."

nhtsa DOT go

"Harness straps/slots at or below shoulder level"

And, my baby's car seat straps are tight and not falling off her shoulders, so at least she won't fly out of her seat like your son will.

[PickledRednecks]

I've been to car seat classes...other's have been CERTIFIED unlike yourself and they are all stating the same thing. The fact that you will laugh if someone's child dies makes me really hope you do not have children. You are mentally unstable.

[mommydayna]

no one here is attempting to belittle another mom, just recommending a safer way to tavel with her child. and I think most people would be horrified (rather than LAUGHING) if something happened to a child, especially due to something that is so easily corrected. Do some research and update yourself rather than criticizing unnecessarily (and harshly).

[tinkwink92]

how do you know?

[PickledRednecks]

Straps should be threaded through the slots at or below the child's shoulders on a rear-facing safety seat and through the top strap slots in most forward-facing convertible seats. Straps should be at or above the child's shoulders in seats that only face forward, such as combination seats.

Taken directly from carseat dot org off of the Wisconsin Certified Passenger Safety site.....

[tinkwink92]

k send the the direct link and prove it.

[PickledRednecks]

you can't send a link on youtube....I gave the site below

it's carseat dot org

or

aap dot org/family/carseatguide dot htm