#1096 - HIS HD 5870 1GB GDDR5 Video Card Video Review

[Naarden4ever]

0:18

a 6 seconds long name ;)

[joecobra1234]

nice vid ,BUT you forgot to mention it depends alot on the mobo,example 8x 8x on the express is good up to about 2400 rez after that the true 16x become a factor,and is much better ,im speaking in crossfire two cards

[Dorisequador]

Nice video would have loved to see 1920x1080 no AA Just aniso a 16x Crysis and Call of Duty Monder warefare 2.

[Neverfiend]

5:05 I thought i was in a wind tunnel.

[MoreAnonymous]

5:05 holy shit it's going to take off

[Ricu23]

Hello , i just bought this vc , and i have a question , on the box it says it suports OpenGL 3.1 , but on the HIS website says as in your clip 3.2, is this driver related ?

Ty

[funnyfootballs]

What does the fan speed do ?

[denis1110]

@funnyfootballs

if it get's too hot the fan will speed up pulling more cool air through the card and cooling it down

[funnyfootballs]

@denis1110 Ok thanks!

[OtherRandomThings]

@funnyfootballs cools the system. prevents overheating

[funnyfootballs]

@OtherRandomThings I have another question for you :), hope you can answer. I get some serious fps drops in a game called "Counter strike source" with this 5870, can the reason be that there is alot of dust in the fan?¨

My CPU is i5 760 overclocked 3,6 ghz

[OtherRandomThings]

@funnyfootballs Try defragging your computer first. that's usually my problem. computer's performances can get affected by fragmentations. CSS can also be defragged if you're using steam, go you your css > properties > local files > defrag. however defragging your computer takes forever, maybe you can start defragging your computer and leave it on overnight while you sleep.

[funnyfootballs]

@OtherRandomThings I have tried defragging my computer I did it with windows like a 2-3 weeks ago (I'm on windows 7)

And I used the defragmenter in TuneUp like 2days ago.

What happens if I defrag css? None of the files wont be deleted right? And it wont put my settings to the default right? I am very careful when it comes to the settings of my gameplay :)

[OtherRandomThings]

@OtherRandomThings nope defragging the game won't affect its files nor settings

[TheSilentFisher]

Men, I bought this video card and you know what? This is completely out standing. The perfomance in games are crazy! This card is worth this money. Sry for my english.

[ErichHartmann202]

5:18 taking off :)

[Lumar231]

hi dude

i just wanna know if you can help me with this!:

i have a xl2370 samsung monitor and a XFX HD 5870 xxx edition GC

and was wondering to buy the M2000 HDTV HDMI Cable

is it gonna work without problems with this two ?!?!?!?!?!? if it wont could you please tell me or recommend wich hdmi cable can i use for this to products???!

please brand and model!!

thanks and greetings from peru!!!!

[kilobot6]

I LOVE this card. It eats anything that I through at it (even a maxed out Crysis 40 fps!). It is an insane overclocker, and I overclocked my card from 800/900 to an insane 910/1310. With MSI Afterburner, I set some custom profiles so it idles at 34 Celsius and loads at around 54 Celsius. I recommend it to anyone looking to buy a card.

Gonna get a second one in a few months!

[SuperSONYdude]

@kilobot6 Can you send me one :(  (crying in background cause you said no)

[FubuMushu]

I can't waittt to get oneeee! IM SO EXCITED!!!

[mupet00000]

Hmm the fan doesn't seem that ba.....(flys away)

[StanK27]

woot just ordered miness

[DarkToxic112]

My Club3D 4870x2 died 4 weeks ago, i hope i get this for replacement

"fingers crossed"

[mastergoddy]

I just have changed from a 9800 gt to an ASUS 5870 hell yeah:D

[BKsMassive]

OMFG!

i will buy this just for the tool kit!

[znoozaros]

WHY DIDNT I GET A TOOLKIT -.-

[lustigmaennchen]

@znoozaros Sometimes they hope you won't memorise it ;)

Just encumber at your shop-.-

[karst1hans1]

@znoozaros was yours a HIS??

[znoozaros]

@karst1hans1 yes it was...

[karst1hans1]

@znoozaros then i dont know why......

[amoresai]

Rodney, which would you prefer, the HD5870 or the GTX 480? considering the temp, power consumption, features, performance and for future proof..

[znoozaros]

@amoresai gtx 480 is more powerful but heats more

[nelizmastr]

@znoozaros hmm, thats false. the HD5870's overall performance is a bit better than the GTX480. the GTX480 only stands out when it comes to tesselation

[znoozaros]

@nelizmastr after the latest drivers for gtx480 it got better.... atleast that's what i've read on the web

[UBUBBOO]

This card does have driver problems. I have 2x HD 5770 and a [ Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX9650 (12M Cache, 3.00 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB] and a 24" monitor samsung.

[DannyGWarrior]

Whats the quality of the HIS Radeon HD 5870? It has good reviews on newegg, but looking at one of the most trusted manufacturers like XFX, it seems like the HD 5870 by XFX fails alot.

[MassihSediq]

If I buy this card from the US, will it work in the UK? I mean will the power supply affect it in any way?

[naka538]

@MassihSediq ouch thats a tough question

[MassihSediq]

@naka538 >.> lol, "did I detect a hint of sarcasm?"... cut me some slack, I'm new to this :D

[naka538]

@MassihSediq no that really wasnt saracasm :D

[naka538]

@naka538 sarcasm*

[MassihSediq]

@naka538 I see, lol ^^ sorry 'bout that :P

[mrbigtime81]

will it worth to get a 5870 from nvidia 285

[naka538]

@mrbigtime81 way worth it

[Usul573]

@mrbigtime81

What is the 285 not powerful enough? Or is it not working that well?

[mrbigtime81]

@Usul573

hu? sorry english isnt my native language. 285 works well but iam not pleased with the performance.i guess. i game full HD 1920*1080 and it requires to use a good gpu u know :/

[Usul573]

@mrbigtime81

The GTX 285 can play Call of Duty 4 at 1920x1200 maximum settings, at 99 FPS.

Battlefield Bad Company 2 at 47 FPS.

Modern Warfare 2 at 84 FPS.

Bioshock 2 at 2560x1600 and highest settings at 47 FPS.

It's an extraordinarily powerful card. 240 unified pipelines. My card has 128 and can do most games at 1920x1200 no problem.

[mrbigtime81]

@Usul573

so the thing u trying to say is, i keep my 285 for now? ok then :). iam so undecided :)..i want to game at 70 FPS the BC2 but well, its still playable good ..let me wait more :)

[Usul573]

@mrbigtime81

Maybe.

70 FPS? I've played through entire games at 25 FPS.

45 FPS is really good though or around there.

[johnyrockshell]

cool @johnyrockshell

[PMantis013]

Niice, I'm getting this board on my new pc, can you check it?

AMD AM3 PHENOM II X4 955 3.2/8MB

MOTHERBOARD ASUS AM3 M4A79XTD EVO

MEM DDR3 4GB 1333MHZ KINGSTON

VIDEO ATI 1GB HD5870 875M DDR5 256BIT ATI CYPRESS

HD SATAII 1000 GB SAMSUNG 7200 32MB

GRAV. DVD-R/RW ASUS 22X DRW-22B2S PRETO

ATX P4 CORSAIR 450W REAL

I'll buy here in Brazil, R$3.157,35 - something like $1.791,91 - is it too expensive?

[johnyrockshell]

@PMantis013 yes, i can get a pc with an i7 and evga 3 way with everything else u posted for sAME PRICE

[Davvex21]

Hi.

i have an acer m5300

power resuply 500w

and

AMD phenom II X3 720

can i use this graphics card

please answer.

[johnyrockshell]

@Davvex21 yes, lol. a p4 with 1gb ram can lol. carefull with that 500w though, if it doesnt have a total of 40amps on all the +12v rails, u will need a new one bro

[Davvex21]

@johnyrockshell thanks

[RE4L72]

just ordered my HIS 5870 off newegg, im going to put an EK nickel plated waterblock on it, im not going to wait till mid april for the gtx 480. i have always gone nvidia, but now i have swichted to ati.

[tmddyd2915]

XFX!!!

[ademar9988]

sure you can....

[Significanto]

Can i run this card with a Corsair 550W PSU?

[amooyaart]

er no

[Significanto]

But doesn't it says minimum 500 watt on the Radeon site?

[TheDARJAMRAN]

definatly not

[Hoki4]

i have corsair 550W PSU and its running perfectly

[15Protech]

@Significanto i think you can, but you cant run two

[falubii]

@Significanto You probably can. Corsair PSUs are rated at a lower wattage to meet 80 Plus standards, so its maximum output is greater than 550 watts. The 5870 is a pretty low wattage cards. Hell, you might be able to run two if you have the right connections. But yeah, you can run it, and the people here really don't know what they're talking about.

[Significanto]

@falubii Thanks for the answer bro

[dannyphantom783]

I rather buy Geforce GTX 470 video card.

[Thunderbird766]

EVERYONE ATTENTION: Newegg is selling this card for $369.99 - $40 off for limited time! GO GET IT while supplies last!

[DetroitPC313]

$379.99 @newegg

[Thunderbird766]

then it went back up $10 huh?

[captainclayman]

i wish i had that kinda cash :(

[dannyphantom783]

ATI HD 5870 video card is 100% kickass product!

[dannyphantom783]

Woot Woot! Direct-X 11. Yay!

[NoneImparticular]

Is my Intel Express Chipset 910 the reason for me only being able to watch vids in 360 or is it the internet connection?

[snowmovies]

ROFL @ THE FAN

[bennerkiller]

@snowmovies ?? all new radeon cards has a fan like that

[Schnikerdoodle]

ATi 5870 is king. 295 is unavailable, more power consuming, and more expensive. For the 5870's price, you'd be comparing it to a 285. The 285 is trumped so badly...NVIDIA fan boys compare it to a 295. I'm getting the 5870 XFX reg. edition!

[xxmtgxx]

performance wise it is compared to a 295

[bennerkiller]

@Schnikerdoodle the 5870 is as good as the 295 :D

[kop4321]

would some one mind telling me how big this card is?

[FrazerMiller]

@kop4321 11.5 Inch

[kop4321]

thanks :)

[TraNWhiZ]

Should I upgrade from GTX260 to HD5870?

Is it worth it? how better the performance will be?

Thanks in advance.

[Vebateh1337]

It's around the same as an gtx295 which is around the same as 3 gtx260's so the answer is obvious

[TraNWhiZ]

Cool thanks, already ordered should arrive tomorrow, 295gtx is better at games meanwhile, I hope the 5870 will be optimized so it will be equal or better than the 295 xD.

How is the driver update rate with ATI?

are they updating the drivers frequently?

[konli4]

@TraNWhiZ im going to change from the XFX gtx 260 BE to a 5870 :)

[TraNWhiZ]

Nice, I already got it mine, seems like my E8400 @ 3.7 is bottlenecking it though, I'll get a quad Q9400 or a Q9505 soon.

Anyway, enjoy your 5870.

[grableeeee]

@konli4 you are an idiot ...gtx 260 will run every game on market for least a year...no need for change

[konli4]

@grableeeee no, not in 1920x1080, my GTX 260 OC to 720 mhz is to slow cant play more then medium on just cause 2 to have a good frame rate, yeah shore you can run games in like 30-35 fps but thats not good fps, i like when its 45+ ore the game Otherwise, the game feels sluggish to play and thats not fun

[grableeeee]

@konli4 30-35 is very got fps 20-25 or 25-30 is bad

[konli4]

@grableeeee not for me, im used to 60-90 fps than 30 is a pain in the ass, the game feels slow

[grableeeee]

@konli4 you are crazy :P

[nikolaj165thenklh]

@konli4 haha great choise :D i have also got gtx 260 and then i buy this card... now i always be on ati's side. Yeah nvidia is good too but cost too much and they be so hot.!

[nanology101]

It's 11 inches long.

[bizkitboi0327]

Anyone??? Can anybody tell if this card fits in an Antec 902 Case? thanks.

[6loooool]

@bizkitboi0327 The Card is 30cm so i think it will fit in youe case

[y35n00b5]

xD funny thing is i was thinking of getting this card and i only play WoW...haha

[lVleSHuGGA]

if all you play is wow get the 5850 lol

[poutanogamiasL]

I am planing to buy an new pc with INTEL Core i7-920 2.66 GHz but i need some help choosing the right graphics card. Any advice?

[zhiheng2005]

get this card...

[kop4321]

a 5950 if you can afford/find one...

[sampsalol]

Just get the cheapest one and overclock it if you wish.

[maxshared]

fuckin hell =O the fan sounds like a jet turbine =D=D

... i still want to get this card though =D

[emich34]

@maxshared sounds like this thing could actually go airborne

[MrH4rper]

@emich34 still not so loud as a 480

[xKotorix]

Unless you are wanting to pay a premium for XFX the sapphire can be purchased for a lower price but the Sapphire Vapor does have a custom cooler which also comes at a premium. But if money is not a major concern XFX is reknowned for making really good quality products, not saying that sapphire is not up to par.

[ekollon72]

thanks guys,

[maxmal23]

Hi, Sapphire or XFX ?

[gunnargunponwr]

the difference is mostly the stickers, but check the clock speeds, support and warranties.

[ekollon72]

hi guys :) some one can tell me if I have tow 5770 crossfire is,t better then one 5870??

thanx

[meetajhu]

@ekollon72 one 5870 is better because 2 5770 are not going to scale properly and minimum fps will be very less compared to CF and u need to wait for new catalyst versions for every new game that is getting released. without a doubt get a 5870. Single gpu solution is always better than 2 or 3.

[ekollon72]

@meetajhu thanx for the advise,

[DeltaPhi79]

Unless you consider the 4870 X2. It's better than some of the 5700 cards. I think I remember seeing that in another one of 3GM's videos.

[showtime302]

no 5770 is mid range card if your looking to save i recommend 5850 for $300 instead of two 5770

[I9kieran94]

i think he could have picked a better comparison between the dx11 and dx10...stalker:CoP isnt the best lookin game and also dosnt use Dx11 very well in my opinion...but watever :)

[MetallicAus]

I have the supphire one, It's extreammly ass kicker

[areld]

HIS card is too expensive. Go for the Sapphire ;)

[zhiheng2005]

XFX is also cheap! haha, Sapphire and XFX~

[zesi5]

will hd 5870 fit in antec nine hundred two?

[dfrocha1]

yes is fits and it will even fit a 5970

[MetallicAus]

@zesi5 yes it does, But the hdd bay should be empty. otherwise it won't fit. I have the antec 902 + HD5870 and I know about this.

[boorelius]

@smathias94

prolly should get a better PSU, the Mobo's fine tho !

[kidowner]

@smathias94 depends on the amps on the 12 volt rail

[asfodhell]

Its certainly a kickass GC !!

BUT , I'll wait until the Vapor-X gets down to a good price

My advice : never buy the "noname" cards as the HIS one ... Go for the good Vapor-X !! Cool and quite as needed (got the 4870 Vapor-X 2GB)

[kidowner]

@asfodhell what u mean no name? like reference cooler?

[TheZombiePanda]

Yay! I'm getting the Vapor-X too... ;D

[asfodhell]

Yes , P5Q deluxe is fine

No , you should consider buying a better PSU (like 700 and above)

But remember , this awesome card can be easily limited by your processor (dont buy it if you got a low end dual core CPU)

[MultiHobbyman]

That card just tripled the noise of my computer and i hafe 12 fans 3 of them 230 millimeter

[1bchrisd1]

@MultiHobbyman 12 fans!!! why do you need that much?

[asfodhell]

Because he's stupid ? :p

Well , I just got a CM HAF932 : 3x230 + 1x140

Absolutely noneed for more , it could even easily up the temp due to bad air flow (too much fan = much noise and much temp)

[djmiranda15]

@ProwerPlays

850W, just in case.

[sebaswildboy]

Lol.. not at all.. 600w is enough I got a shitty one I don't have a problem OC and max load.. 700w would be better tough.

[djmiranda15]

Yeah, but the power supply will decrease it's efficiency with time.

700W should be good enough for more than one year, but he will need to upgrade to a new one eventually.

I was going for a 750W for my HD 5770, but i decided choosing a 1000W (because i'll want to upgrade to crossfire and overclock my Q9550 to 3,2GHz). This should last me for a very long time.

It's up to him to choose what's best for his needs.

[sebaswildboy]

It's ok to futureproof.. but ppl tend to overreact on PSUs requeriments.

[djmiranda15]

People tend to overreact to allot of things.

750W would be enough for me, but that was before that i learned that PSU had an expiration date with a very slow death.

Maybe that's what happened to my two previous PSUs. They fried to death XD.

[JPHET37]

At 50% the Harrier Jet Fighter is about to take off...loud noise! You guys better have a good power supply load

[wushuk1ng]

is the mic inside the graphcis card as it's going?

[Dorisequador]

I prefer DX10 except for the sky in DX11 the caracter has more details in DX10..

Maybe that gives you more frames...

[cub64]

what a stupid result....much like a same as windows,you prefer win98 or xp rather than win vista or 7 because win98/xp is fast when load....no meaning.... stupid but ego

[Dorisequador]

Personally I prefer Window Vista.. I have not tried Windows 7.

Second I see what I see I prefer eye candy on the caracters when i see less on them I am reluctant to impressed with new DX drivers as for new opereating systems.

I wait till everybody else say`s what happened before I go buy or upgrade...

[Dorisequador]

Depends what you want and what games you play..

[shangbang94]

holy fucking shit, this will be like having a vacum cleaner on my room !!! hope the vapor-x version is more quite

[ud3r007]

The main difference between directX 10 and 11 is the performance ... DirectX 11 works prety much faster .

[therawrawr]

The comparison between 10x and 11x was complete bs.. When you look at the masks, the 10x shows the mask as an octagon while in direct x11 it's a perfect circle. Obviously the graphics were toned done in the directx10... Stupid picture hmmmf...

[damianson]

o.O when the heck would ur card get that loud? MW2 wouldnt make it max out tho eh?

[Merc399]

lol, no... it uses the same engine as mw, with a few updates... the ati radeon 4850 maxes out mw at around 100 fps...

[DonFlavi]

tnks 4 this,real useful video

[ZoneDamage]

I read on the internet that this card needs 500W minimum but if he says it drains about 180W at full load doesnt it mean I dont need a 500W minimum?

Christopher

[Rottencop]

indeed. It consumes 180w at full, but i think the GPU is not the only component in ur pc. You also have to consider the amount of amps your PSU provides. I think most of the markets 500w power can handle the 5870.

[ZoneDamage]

Yes that is true. Ive got a 620 W ATX PSU, but not sure how many amps it hade tho. I used to have a GTX 275 on that thing and it worked. How many amps would you recommend if I whould like to use a crossfire in these cards?

Christopher

[Fitality101]

700-800 watts

[Merc399]

550-650 is the recommended, dude

[pokerface3699]

the 500 includes the motherboard, hard drives, etc.

[ZoneDamage]

Thanks

Christopher

[Findoloo]

you need to inclued your other components... include this in a system your spending alot.... so youll be buying a hig price psu... like i did :)

[StarlightMassacre]

you do realize that your PSU doesn't only power your graphics card...

[Rottencop]

Do Want! Thought that nvidia could bring its Fermi on market early but they failed big time. And I believe the price would speak for Ati too...

[mikitymike]

Technically Nvidia isn't late If you compare the time since each company's last release. Nvidia saw severe flaws in the 40 nm chips but ATI decided to take the risk anyway

[Findoloo]

getting a 5870... will i get a Saphire, Asus or an XFX one?

[jaja191919]

xfx always a certified product....so i would recommend that one..although it can be more expensive than other brands

[Findoloo]

price isnt realy an issue, its only a small difference, im thinking of making a lanbox but i doubt a 10incher will fit, ill probally end up with a scout sniper case :) but either way im waiting till january because of the sales :D

[jaja191919]

yeah..same idea here..but still dunno if am getting the 5850 or 5870..cuz maybe id go xfire in the near future.

[tropico79]

These cards are still hard to find. Newegg doesnt have them still.

[emo4elmo]

you can run just about any game with this card num nuts out there

[111olbap]

Just about? Runs anything. Fastest card out there.

[naitzirc]

according to comparison its Equal to GTX 295.. in power.. except that Radeon is stronger in big resolutions 2000 or more... and it got DX 11 and it's better for Dual and quad cores.. so basicly its the best card.. YET

[0Pluisje0]

hello 3dgamerman ive got a question about the 5870: how high is the wattage use on this video card? i would like to hear also from other ppl who knows about it.

regards

0Pluisje0

[darthlachie]

Man it sounds like a jet engine!

[hille32]

it IS a jet engine!

[allstop69]

I got a tool kit like that from a two-six of Vodka once...

[anthonzi]

Is there going to be a x2 version?

[sGnAimless]

yes, and a x4 version, by jan 2010.

[naitzirc]

When the 6870 Releases maybe it will hehe !.. but why not get 6870 then ? or GTX 300 X2

[mikitymike]

the x2 version is the 5970

[jason26969]

will i be able to run AUTOCAD with this card.

[McBlasterson]

i wouldnt really call this a review...i would call it an overview. all he does is read specs, he doesnt compare it with other cards, and he barely gives any personal thoughts on the card itself? what the hell!