The max range would be around 2km but the effective range is at most around 600-800 meters at most. Personally though I think it's effective based off the shooter. With a PE or PU scope, you could push it out farther to 1200-1500 if you really knew what you were doing, had the perfect ammo, and perfect conditions, but this generally without a scope is a 500 or less rifle.
I picked one of these up a few weeks ago for $110 and the front sight is definitely off, looking to get that adjusted. I'm curious though how you use the rear range sight? It's notched in 1/2 increments from 1 to 20. Are these hundreds of meters or something?
I got mine for $75 after a reenactment. 1936 Tula, not import marked. Brass capped handguard. Mismatched but was most likely drug through some european battlefield. Shoots well but have yet to see if its accuracy is off without the bayonet on. Some marks on the front sight mean it was never moved and mosins were sighted in with the bayonet on at the factory I hear. Action is almost as smooth as my 1898 krag!
He says he got this for 79 bucks, lol and theres an ad for virizon fios next to this vid for 79 bucks...mosin nagant or fios? Is that even a question?
Thanks! It wasn't the most beautiful or user friendly rifle back in that war but I think too many people undercut its abilities and accuracy. It wasn't designed to be a classic, it was designed to be a war winner.
$500 in Iceland for a Mosin Nagant? I find it interesting how Iceland is closer to where these are stockpiled and being imported from, yet it's way cheaper in the US. I would never pay anything above $125 for even an excellent Mosin, but the markets are different. I had no idea, thanks for the knowledge.
@Mr2ndAmendment You wouldn't be buying one in Canada either then. They're $189 on this one site I like. I'm sure stores will sell them for less than that though.
Same deal in Australia. It's all about gun control, how the powers-to-be place an insane amount of regulation on the importation, ownership and use of all firearms, all the way down to air rifles. Even paintball markers are controlled under the same firearm categories as some rimfire rifles. Semi-Automatics have a blanket ban except for professional shooters. No sport or hunting allowed for non-commercial owners.
@Mr2ndAmendment so you are saying you would not pay for a sniper a hex reciever an m39 m28 m38 m91/59 m28/30 the only mosin you would pay for is a cheap rusted up izhevsk m91/30 sad
Good sir, that is not something CAI put on your gun. That flaking finish is probably the finish it shipped from Europe with. My 1942 91/30 Izhevsk's stock is dinged and scratched with almost all of the shellac gone or close to it. CAI never touched these guns except for engraving their import mark and a serial.
@xXHARRYxCARREYXx Its similar to a 12ga shotgun I would say. If you aren't used to it it can be a bit suprising but after a while its no big deal. Its all how you shoulder it in my opinion.
i bought a 91/30 for $100 here in columbus ohio at vance shooter supply...it had the sling, bayonet, 2 ammo pouches, tool kit and the original oil can...the 1 i have they told me was a toula because it has the brass fittings on either end of the stock...a toula was a sergeants weapon...i have a question and maybe you or any1 that reads this might have the answer...was the mosin nagant m91/30 originally a sniper rifle?...the year on mine is a 1940...
It's the other way around: back then, sniper rifles were pretty much always standard bolt actions with unusually good accuracy and a scope (along with all the necessary modifications). Generally an ex-sniper will have a turned down bolt handle as the most obvious change. I'm not enough of an expert to say any more.
@Mr2ndAmendment i need a devinative answer on what my gun is sighted in for distance wise and how low to aim at 75-100 yards and on brush shots of around 50, i hear the gun is sighted for around 350meters but i dont believe everything i read because i see ppl saying that thier gun shoots perfect dead on at 100m, lol iam confused help meeeeeee
Well the definitive answer is to go out there and shoot it. Aim dead center at a target at a known distance (say 100 yds) and see how it acts. The rifles were sighted in for about 300 meters. The number graduations on the rear sight are in an old archaic Soviet military measurement system, but they are roughly in meters. Typically from the crate, Mosins tend to shoot high and to the right because they were sighted in with the bayonet and for 300 meters.
@FUCKSCOTTNELSON say you are aiming at a coffee can at 75-100 yards line up your sights and put the post at the very bottom of the can. so it looks like the can is ballancing on the front post. and shoot. point of impact should be almost dead center. mabey a little low center becasue a coffee can is a pretty big target but it will definitely hit.
Very bottom. My only option is to raise the front post or somehow lower the rear more. I've looked into removing some material on the bottom of the rear sight adjuster to allow for the rear sight to lower more but haven't tried it yet. I'll just leave it as it is and use Kentucky windage to hit the mark.
@JasonWhirlybird Actually this mosin nagant shoots a 7.62mmX54R caliber, Sorry for the late reply, If you forgot what you posted, "The video is 2.23 minutes long, It should be 3.08 minutes long". Just letting you know it doesnt shoot 3.08 lol
The rear sights are measured in meters as opposed to yards. I've heard that's one main reason why people are shooting off target because they sight it as its in yards. Idk but hopefully that helps.
i just bought the same gun the other day i cleaned it up a lil and now i was wondering how i could refinish as you did, it looks really great. could you please help me? thanks.
I meant to do a video on it but I'm now back at my duty station away from home. You start by taking it all apart and separating the stock from all metal parts (except the metal that's part of the stock). Clean off as much grease as you can, then sand it down with very fine sandpaper, be careful to leave all the markings intact. Next, apply Minwax red stain and a rub-on Minwix sealer. Allow to dry and put back together. Doesn't ruin anything and makes it look good.
Thanks for the recommendation, since the filming of this video I did a trigger job on it and it breaks at about 1.5 lbs now. the best I've ever got with the most up to date setup on this rifle is a 1.3 MOA at 100 yards. I don't think many people realize how great these rifles can be with a little TLC and practice.
@Mr2ndAmendment Yeah, true. In city combat like Stalingrad/Berlin the soldiers did prefer the shorter length w/o the bayonet and thats also why in alot of Stalingrad footage you can see the M38 Carbines. Frontline troops would often steal/trade them off of rear troops.
I can't imagine trying to clear buildings with a M91/30 with fixed bayonet, the thing is a shooting spear. I think the only solution I would come up with as a soldier in the Red Army would be to either shoot it from the hip and move the rifle back or do as you said and try to trade/find a M38. Either that or locate a M44, which could allow me to make an easy switch between whatever I needed. Better yet, just pick up a K98k and kill them with their own stuff.
Also not to be a prick or try to pick an argument but I have several sets of dvds and pictures about WW2 Russia and the "bayonet always on" WAS practiced as seen in war photos and footage. "A bayonet is a weapon and it is to be ready at all times!" per Stalin. Happy Shooting!
No arguments here, good information. It was Soviet military doctrine at the time to keep a bayonet on at all times, which is why the rifles themselves were sighted in at the factory with the bayonet fixed (which affects shot placement if it is not fixed). I also know that the soldiers themselves would often fight without bayonets unless they had to due to the extreme overall length of the rifle with a bayonet fixed, but both instances did occur often.
@Mr2ndAmendment He`s just pissed cause even if he does own a real gun, it`s not as manly as the Mosin Nagants! hehe. Try setting the sights at "300" for 100yrds. Works on some, not on others.
It will depend on your gun because each individual gun is different and you'll have to experiment between different types of ammo to see which brand/type works best in your rifle. For example my rifle shoots a little high at 100 and 200 yards, so I try to get 200 grain surplus so the bullets drop faster, but for example if your rifle shoots low I would go for the 148 grain stuff. Also, if you are a high-volume shooter 148 grain ammo is good to limit "recoil trauma."
No, I've never had a problem with my firing pin. I always check the teardrop gauge that came with the rifle to make sure the pin doesn't protrude too much or too little. The firing pin is a pretty solid rod of steel, secured to the rear "cap" of the bolt assembly with a great number of threads, I don't think they could come loose (I'm trying to image how that could happen). Interesting question, I'll do some research on it, but I've never had any problems with this.
Because shooting in real life is not as easy as shooting in your video games. Maybe I should have added sound effects while shooting airsoft guns like you do in your videos. I bet you probably haven't even fired a real gun before, instead you've probably beaten the newest Call of Duty game already. Go back to your video games kid, this channel is for firearms enthusiasts.
First of all SF guys don't troll on the internet and put up airsoft videos, or ANY videos for that matter. I've trained with the Green Berets down at Bragg for a while, and I've been taught by an 18B on the ins and outs of almost all modern military weapon systems. Does this mean I know everything? No, but I know more than a video gamer and most for that matter. I've shot literally TONS of lead down range between the thousands of Uncle Sam's bullets or my own, prove it kid.
You are the reason why children shouldn't have youtube accounts. Go play airsoft or play Black Ops, this video is for people that shoot guns (bullets, not plastic balls).
sweeet my mosin was made in 1942 by izhevsk.they're nice guns arent they.i love them.i cant get the bayo all the way on.and if i get it half way its very hard to get back off.
I've noticed the height stays the same with or without the bayonet but the only thing that changes between the two configurations is windage. With the bayonet fixed it shoots only 3 inches to the right. Without the bayonet it shoots 6 inches to the right (both at 100 yards). I fixed that problem by moving the front sight, but the bottom line is barrel harmonics. The bayonet interferes with the barrel vibrating during firing, which changes shot placement; valid question.
I'm thinking about purchasing the m91/30 at big 5 since its on sale and I'm a ww2 buff. how good, generally speaking, is the quality of these rifles bought from big 5? I have heard some "rumors" that some shouldn't even be fired that most are for display purposes. Is this true?
The one in the video is from Big 5, and the ones I've inspected from Big 5 are good. They are not actually from Big 5, Big 5 gets them from CAI (Century Arms International). CAI buys old milsurp rifles from eastern bloc countries, imports them, and then makes sure they are safe to fire. In their official documentation they recommend taking it to a gunsmith to have it checked out before shooting, but you should be good to go with CAI rifles (which are the ones sold at Big 5).
Good vid, I would like to know how to find out how old mine is, anyone know how I would go about doing that? and also where i can find some cheap, non-corrosive, ammo?
It should have a date stamp on the top of the receiver, it should be visible by looking at the rifle from the top, you may need to get in close. The best, cheap, non-corrosive ammo would be Prvi Partizan ammunition. It's brass-cased and non-corrosive and is decently priced. Corrosive ammo is not bad as long as you clean it well after wards, it's not corrosive when it fires but when the salts in the powder are allowed to attract water and rust later on.
It is. I have done extensive work to make it more accurate without damaging it historically speaking. I have free-floated the barrel by sanding the insides of the stock and upper handguard, so it looks like the wood is touching but it's not. I did my own trigger job on it, adjusted the sights so it shoots straight without the bayonet fixed, and the barreled receiver is sitting on brass shim. The rifling is also beautiful to begin with, so with all of that it has become great.
You can go to wideners or sportsmansguide and they have this stuff for real cheap. The best price is about $79 for a sealed can of 440 rounds. That is surplus ammo and it is corrosive, so you just have to clean your rifle well, but if you want newly-made non-corrosive ammo, then you can look up Prvi Partizan ammo, which is good, clean, new-manufactur ammo. Winchester and several other big-name brands make hunting ammo for it too, but it's more expensive.
Well they did make a scoped version, and you can buy one for about $450 to $500 at a gun show or through Century Arms International. They can be extremely accurate with a scope on them.
@slyde77 If I remember right it was Miniwax "red sedona." I was going to do a video on staining Mosin stocks, but I didn't have time and now that I'm at my duty station it won't be a possibility for a while. Good luck!
now r u supposed to hit like the hood of the front sight and move the whole hood and everything and if u do were r u supposed to hit it bc i tried to move the sight did not move at all again i appreciate the help
I just picked up a Hex 1931 Tula and i love it. But yeah the finish on the stock sucks and im going to have to redo it i got it for 89 bucks at JG sales. Ill make a video on it soon. One question the bolt is kinda stiff you think its from not being used? or do you think it has to be cleaned better?
Usually a sticky bolt is caused by built up cosmoline in the chamber. Try to clean it out the best you can before shooting, but the best way to clean out cosmoline is to shoot about 50 rounds through it quickly to heat it up, then clean out the cosmoline while it's still hot and pliable. Make sure you got gloves handy for the hot metal. To be sure, I'd recommend taking it to a gunsmith just to double check for safety and/or headspace issues.
so r u saying at 200 yards the rifle shoots were u want it to go? bc my rifle does the same thing with shooting up and 2 the right. and i cant hit shit at 50. and also wat method do u use? messing with the front sight or do u just shoot down and 2 the left. i would appreciate the help.
I don't mind that it shoots a little high at anything below 200 yards, but I moved the front sight post over to the right. If it's shooting to the right, the front sight post needs to go to the right, you can do this with a punch and a hammer by carefully sliding over the front sight, it's in a dovetail joint so it will slide over. For it shooting too high, I aim low at things lower than 200 yards, and anything after that I adjust accordingly.
I don't mind that it shoots too high because I can see what I'm shooting at, so I aim low at stuff lower than 200 yards, but you need to learn how to do this and know your rifle to achieve success with this method. To fix this you need to raise the front sight post, so you can either slip a straw over the post and snip it where you need it, or you can take apart the front sight and modify it, but that requires some serious know-how. Aiming low works well.
Nice. I have seen this gun on sale at Big 5 and im considering purchesing it because its so cheep. 4 questions. Is the rifle easy to clean? How much does the ammo cost? Does it jam much? Does it come with any excessories?
This rifle is a Big 5 rifle. The rifle is easy to clean because you really only have to clean the bore and chamber, but you must clean carefully because surplus ammo is corrosive. The ammo is cheap if you buy surplus ammo, and it does not jam at all. It comes with the teardrop tool, ammo pouch, rod parts, and oilers (and bayonet and sling). It's a great value, and the ammo is cheap, it's a great plinker rifle all around.
When the rifle is first made, there is a sharp edge on the muzzle of the barrel, which allows for more accuracy when the bullet leaves the barrel. Overtime this wears away, so the bullet just kind of flies out of the barrel instead of getting 100% correction and direction from the barrel up until the end. The counter bore just re-invents the edge and makes it crisp again, at the sacrifice of about an inch or so of rifling gone, but in theory the counter bore should make up for this loss.
Thank you, I did a trigger job on it and it really helps get some serious groupings without taking away from the historical part too much (or at least something visible).
I agree, I haven't got around to getting a Fin Mosin yet, but I see them at gun shows/shops all the time. I want to get one, but I like collecting the Russian ones and trying to accurize them without doing a "bubba job" on it and keeping true to the history of the weapon. Agreed though.
I have a 1942 izhevesk as well ..mine shoots ok but has a sticky bolt issue...and is counterbored...there is no rifling after the front sight..stupid russian soldiers cleaning them from the muzzle ruined so many rifles i hear....
Yes, my M44 is counter-bored and it cannot hit anything. I lucked out and found this rifle at a sporting goods shop, the rifling is perfect, but the stock and metal finish were not in the best condition. After a little work, I brought it back up to speed. But yes, with a counter-bored rifle, the accuracy isn't going to be great.
Not necessarily true. Essentially a counterbored rifle should be more accurate than a non-counterbored rifle because you have a new crown. This rifle may not be accurate for a number of reasons other than it just being counterbored.
oh really? yeah i just bought one the other day and was shooting about 50 yards and was not hitting much. i was putting the irons right on the target. if you could help me out i would appreciate it.
I have the same gun and am trying to figure out what it is sighted in for. Do you know how many yards or meters it was originally sighted in for? I have not made any modifications. Also, I heard a rumor that it should be shot with the bayonet extended. True?
Yes, it is true that you need to fix the bayonet to shoot accurately with the Mosin. Soviet military doctrine of the time stated that all soldiers should have fixed bayonets at all times, so they sighted them in fixed at the factory. Also, the rifle is sighted in for what is roughly about 200m. This was because they wanted their men to kill the enemy before he got too close. So at 100 yds, almost every Mosin will shoot high and to the right. I'll send you a message on how to fix that.
Makes perfect sense, I have an M91/30 got it for about 115 in absolutely excellent condition, when I went to the outdoor range (100yd) I always adjusted to shoot a bit lower on standard settings by just aiming a bit lower, so I got some pretty nice groups at 50-100yds although they are always to the right, off the center of the target page by about 5-6 inches right.
You have an awesome Mosin! I recently bought my first one. Your stock is in an incredible condition, did you purchase it that way or did you have to work on it? What year is it?
Well the details of it are in the vid description, but I bought it at Big 5 for $79. I wasn't concerned about the outer appearance, only the condition of the bore. It has excellent rifling, and I sanded down the nasty, Century Arms-applied varnish and stained it with red Minwax and sealed it with Minwax rub-on poly. The how-to vid is coming soon, thanks for the comment!
Well I would love to see how you took the century arms finish off and did your own. I'm quite pleased with the stock on my Mosin, but I recently bought a K98 that really needs the stock refinished and I'm a "newb" to gun restoration so every bit helps! Thanks.
Thanks! You have a pretty good M44, I have one that was made in 1944 and it is counter-bored, so after about 100 yds, forget it. I would recomend a sight adjustment tool to fix your M91/30 unless you want to keep it that way, but I'll be putting up a review of a great sight adjustment tool I bought pretty soon.
Yeah I think your right, I'm sure they cranked them out fast during the GPW. According to a book I have, they made 3.6 million M44's in 1944, and only 189,000 in '46.
I've always heard that counter-boring should actually help accuracy...?
@DerasAndrew
Yes, they are in hundreds of meters, making the effective range of the rifle
About 2km.
LutherInta 5 days ago
@LutherInta
The max range would be around 2km but the effective range is at most around 600-800 meters at most. Personally though I think it's effective based off the shooter. With a PE or PU scope, you could push it out farther to 1200-1500 if you really knew what you were doing, had the perfect ammo, and perfect conditions, but this generally without a scope is a 500 or less rifle.
Mr2ndAmendment 4 days ago
I picked one of these up a few weeks ago for $110 and the front sight is definitely off, looking to get that adjusted. I'm curious though how you use the rear range sight? It's notched in 1/2 increments from 1 to 20. Are these hundreds of meters or something?
DerasAndrew 1 week ago
Does anybody know how much the mosin nagant ammo cost?
MegaBigfoot12345 4 weeks ago
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@MegaBigfoot12345 147 grain FMJ surplus ammunition 880 rounds for 120$
MrDip02 2 weeks ago
@MegaBigfoot12345 just seen 'the armory' has 880 rounds on sale for 136+shipping($25 for IL)
bmbeaupre 4 days ago
love mine paid 150 for it shoots good i wish my bolt was that smooth like that .
wind938 1 month ago
I got mine for $75 after a reenactment. 1936 Tula, not import marked. Brass capped handguard. Mismatched but was most likely drug through some european battlefield. Shoots well but have yet to see if its accuracy is off without the bayonet on. Some marks on the front sight mean it was never moved and mosins were sighted in with the bayonet on at the factory I hear. Action is almost as smooth as my 1898 krag!
mrpreserveourcountry 1 month ago
got mine for 120 at big 5 here in california
mattbaerg 1 month ago
I'm sorry, but I don't believe this. You cycle that bolt far too easily.
Nice rifle.
jeffman3 1 month ago
@jeffman3
You should see the Mosin Madness video. You will shit brix. Thanks.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 month ago
@jeffman3 i know when i cycle mine its pretty hard
vegeta109x 3 weeks ago
@jeffman3 mosin nagants have highly smooth bolts -_-
MrDip02 2 weeks ago
@demonicspire1 I live in california and I got mine for 100 with background check
roach182008 1 month ago
Big 5's seem to have these alot and on sale. But not as cheap as you found yours, I'm in california and they tend to be 150-240$
demonicspire1 1 month ago
mine shoots dead on with the bayonet attached....
B1GxRED 2 months ago
nice rifle, but why not shoot in the prone? Practice how u play. ;-)
0nesh0t0311 2 months ago
I fired one of these for the first time today and it was amazing! Next to the M14 this gun was the most fun to hit targets with.
tridentseven693 3 months ago
He says he got this for 79 bucks, lol and theres an ad for virizon fios next to this vid for 79 bucks...mosin nagant or fios? Is that even a question?
AirsoftMegaTTr14 3 months ago
@AirsoftMegaTTr14 i would pick the gun
TheGunny1980 2 months ago
@TheGunny1980 couldnt agree more
AirsoftMegaTTr14 2 months ago
Nice shooting, This was very good rifle back in ww2.
TheXWitcher 3 months ago
@TheXWitcher
Thanks! It wasn't the most beautiful or user friendly rifle back in that war but I think too many people undercut its abilities and accuracy. It wasn't designed to be a classic, it was designed to be a war winner.
Mr2ndAmendment 3 months ago
@Mr2ndAmendment yes, designed to one shot one kill on very long distance.
TheXWitcher 3 months ago
$79 wow it costs 500$ in iceland
RDD2MUSICRDD2 4 months ago
@RDD2MUSICRDD2
$500 in Iceland for a Mosin Nagant? I find it interesting how Iceland is closer to where these are stockpiled and being imported from, yet it's way cheaper in the US. I would never pay anything above $125 for even an excellent Mosin, but the markets are different. I had no idea, thanks for the knowledge.
Mr2ndAmendment 4 months ago 2
@Mr2ndAmendment You wouldn't be buying one in Canada either then. They're $189 on this one site I like. I'm sure stores will sell them for less than that though.
raptors11111 3 months ago
@Mr2ndAmendment
Same deal in Australia. It's all about gun control, how the powers-to-be place an insane amount of regulation on the importation, ownership and use of all firearms, all the way down to air rifles. Even paintball markers are controlled under the same firearm categories as some rimfire rifles. Semi-Automatics have a blanket ban except for professional shooters. No sport or hunting allowed for non-commercial owners.
flyboy172r 2 months ago
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@Mr2ndAmendment so you are saying you would not pay for a sniper a hex reciever an m39 m28 m38 m91/59 m28/30 the only mosin you would pay for is a cheap rusted up izhevsk m91/30 sad
MrDip02 2 weeks ago
@RDD2MUSICRDD2 Its because the majority of mosins were bought by and american company. So they probably aren't going straight from Russia to Iceland.
StaleDonutPictures 2 months ago
@RDD2MUSICRDD2 i live in iceland and i love the sound of that rifle its so badass
RGBRYN 2 months ago
Good sir, that is not something CAI put on your gun. That flaking finish is probably the finish it shipped from Europe with. My 1942 91/30 Izhevsk's stock is dinged and scratched with almost all of the shellac gone or close to it. CAI never touched these guns except for engraving their import mark and a serial.
Shadowed4 5 months ago
yay mine is the same model, year, and factory :)
Jokerone72 5 months ago
@Jokerone72
Cheers!
Mr2ndAmendment 5 months ago
The bolt action motion and sound is just awesome.
supercube86 6 months ago
hey how would you rate the recoil on your 91/30?
xXHARRYxCARREYXx 6 months ago
@xXHARRYxCARREYXx Its similar to a 12ga shotgun I would say. If you aren't used to it it can be a bit suprising but after a while its no big deal. Its all how you shoulder it in my opinion.
bpowersman5000 6 months ago
@bpowersman5000 alright, thanks man
xXHARRYxCARREYXx 6 months ago
Sturdy, durable, easy to use and no frills.
drummer78 9 months ago
i bought a 91/30 for $100 here in columbus ohio at vance shooter supply...it had the sling, bayonet, 2 ammo pouches, tool kit and the original oil can...the 1 i have they told me was a toula because it has the brass fittings on either end of the stock...a toula was a sergeants weapon...i have a question and maybe you or any1 that reads this might have the answer...was the mosin nagant m91/30 originally a sniper rifle?...the year on mine is a 1940...
XXXbigdaddy101XXX 9 months ago
@XXXbigdaddy101XXX
It's the other way around: back then, sniper rifles were pretty much always standard bolt actions with unusually good accuracy and a scope (along with all the necessary modifications). Generally an ex-sniper will have a turned down bolt handle as the most obvious change. I'm not enough of an expert to say any more.
chitoryu12 9 months ago
The video is 2.23 minutes long, It should be 3.08 minutes long
JasonWhirlybird 10 months ago 12
@JasonWhirlybird
More like 8:02 haha.
Mr2ndAmendment 10 months ago
@Mr2ndAmendment i need a devinative answer on what my gun is sighted in for distance wise and how low to aim at 75-100 yards and on brush shots of around 50, i hear the gun is sighted for around 350meters but i dont believe everything i read because i see ppl saying that thier gun shoots perfect dead on at 100m, lol iam confused help meeeeeee
FUCKSCOTTNELSON 6 months ago
@FUCKSCOTTNELSON
Well the definitive answer is to go out there and shoot it. Aim dead center at a target at a known distance (say 100 yds) and see how it acts. The rifles were sighted in for about 300 meters. The number graduations on the rear sight are in an old archaic Soviet military measurement system, but they are roughly in meters. Typically from the crate, Mosins tend to shoot high and to the right because they were sighted in with the bayonet and for 300 meters.
Mr2ndAmendment 6 months ago
@FUCKSCOTTNELSON say you are aiming at a coffee can at 75-100 yards line up your sights and put the post at the very bottom of the can. so it looks like the can is ballancing on the front post. and shoot. point of impact should be almost dead center. mabey a little low center becasue a coffee can is a pretty big target but it will definitely hit.
amyhuk 5 months ago
@amyhuk
Good advice but it varies from rifle to rifle. With my rifle, to hit that can I'd have to aim about 4-5 inches below the coffee can at 76-100 yards.
Mr2ndAmendment 5 months ago
@Mr2ndAmendment what do you have the elevation set at?
amyhuk 5 months ago
@amyhuk
Very bottom. My only option is to raise the front post or somehow lower the rear more. I've looked into removing some material on the bottom of the rear sight adjuster to allow for the rear sight to lower more but haven't tried it yet. I'll just leave it as it is and use Kentucky windage to hit the mark.
Mr2ndAmendment 5 months ago
@JasonWhirlybird
Or even better, 7.62 minutes long
caderly123 7 months ago
@JasonWhirlybird dont you mean 7.62??? the mosin is not .308
matthewHizzle 6 months ago
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@JasonWhirlybird Actually this mosin nagant shoots a 7.62mmX54R caliber, Sorry for the late reply, If you forgot what you posted, "The video is 2.23 minutes long, It should be 3.08 minutes long". Just letting you know it doesnt shoot 3.08 lol
FederalSignal130 1 month ago
The rear sights are measured in meters as opposed to yards. I've heard that's one main reason why people are shooting off target because they sight it as its in yards. Idk but hopefully that helps.
paolee18 11 months ago
i just bought the same gun the other day i cleaned it up a lil and now i was wondering how i could refinish as you did, it looks really great. could you please help me? thanks.
justinlopez1161 11 months ago
@justinlopez1161
I meant to do a video on it but I'm now back at my duty station away from home. You start by taking it all apart and separating the stock from all metal parts (except the metal that's part of the stock). Clean off as much grease as you can, then sand it down with very fine sandpaper, be careful to leave all the markings intact. Next, apply Minwax red stain and a rub-on Minwix sealer. Allow to dry and put back together. Doesn't ruin anything and makes it look good.
Mr2ndAmendment 11 months ago
i just got one at big 5 for 100 bucks what a steasl
Killinemdead1 11 months ago
i cant sight mine in it aims to high..
TheBellhelicopterman 1 year ago
Hmm, mine tends to aim to the top left. Btw, mines a 1939 Izhevsk rifle.
MichaelkSimmons 1 year ago
Good job on the editing. And good shooting with open sights.
Pick you up an adjustable trigger for that beast.
Just1Spark 1 year ago
@Just1Spark
Thanks for the recommendation, since the filming of this video I did a trigger job on it and it breaks at about 1.5 lbs now. the best I've ever got with the most up to date setup on this rifle is a 1.3 MOA at 100 yards. I don't think many people realize how great these rifles can be with a little TLC and practice.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
@Mr2ndAmendment I`ll take a good ol` PPSh41 for room clearing. Either that or give me a T34 to just roll through the building :-)
sovietpirate 1 year ago
@Mr2ndAmendment Yeah, true. In city combat like Stalingrad/Berlin the soldiers did prefer the shorter length w/o the bayonet and thats also why in alot of Stalingrad footage you can see the M38 Carbines. Frontline troops would often steal/trade them off of rear troops.
sovietpirate 1 year ago
@sovietpirate
I can't imagine trying to clear buildings with a M91/30 with fixed bayonet, the thing is a shooting spear. I think the only solution I would come up with as a soldier in the Red Army would be to either shoot it from the hip and move the rifle back or do as you said and try to trade/find a M38. Either that or locate a M44, which could allow me to make an easy switch between whatever I needed. Better yet, just pick up a K98k and kill them with their own stuff.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
Also not to be a prick or try to pick an argument but I have several sets of dvds and pictures about WW2 Russia and the "bayonet always on" WAS practiced as seen in war photos and footage. "A bayonet is a weapon and it is to be ready at all times!" per Stalin. Happy Shooting!
sovietpirate 1 year ago
@sovietpirate
No arguments here, good information. It was Soviet military doctrine at the time to keep a bayonet on at all times, which is why the rifles themselves were sighted in at the factory with the bayonet fixed (which affects shot placement if it is not fixed). I also know that the soldiers themselves would often fight without bayonets unless they had to due to the extreme overall length of the rifle with a bayonet fixed, but both instances did occur often.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
@Mr2ndAmendment He`s just pissed cause even if he does own a real gun, it`s not as manly as the Mosin Nagants! hehe. Try setting the sights at "300" for 100yrds. Works on some, not on others.
sovietpirate 1 year ago
wat grain of ammunation do you recommend for 100-200 yards opensights?
twiztid6430 1 year ago
@twiztid6430
It will depend on your gun because each individual gun is different and you'll have to experiment between different types of ammo to see which brand/type works best in your rifle. For example my rifle shoots a little high at 100 and 200 yards, so I try to get 200 grain surplus so the bullets drop faster, but for example if your rifle shoots low I would go for the 148 grain stuff. Also, if you are a high-volume shooter 148 grain ammo is good to limit "recoil trauma."
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
Have you had problems with the firing pin? I've heard they come loose more than often, resulting in a barrel split.
MuscaVolitans 1 year ago
@MuscaVolitans
No, I've never had a problem with my firing pin. I always check the teardrop gauge that came with the rifle to make sure the pin doesn't protrude too much or too little. The firing pin is a pretty solid rod of steel, secured to the rear "cap" of the bolt assembly with a great number of threads, I don't think they could come loose (I'm trying to image how that could happen). Interesting question, I'll do some research on it, but I've never had any problems with this.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
why watch this video when you cant even hit the dang target
BAZOOKABELLY 1 year ago
@BAZOOKABELLY
Because shooting in real life is not as easy as shooting in your video games. Maybe I should have added sound effects while shooting airsoft guns like you do in your videos. I bet you probably haven't even fired a real gun before, instead you've probably beaten the newest Call of Duty game already. Go back to your video games kid, this channel is for firearms enthusiasts.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
@Mr2ndAmendment dumbass im currently serving in the Special Forces and i know for a fact that ive shot way more guns than you, douche bag.
BAZOOKABELLY 1 year ago
@BAZOOKABELLY
First of all SF guys don't troll on the internet and put up airsoft videos, or ANY videos for that matter. I've trained with the Green Berets down at Bragg for a while, and I've been taught by an 18B on the ins and outs of almost all modern military weapon systems. Does this mean I know everything? No, but I know more than a video gamer and most for that matter. I've shot literally TONS of lead down range between the thousands of Uncle Sam's bullets or my own, prove it kid.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
@Mr2ndAmendment THATS MY SON DUMBASS why dont you get a life?
BAZOOKABELLY 1 year ago
@BAZOOKABELLY
You are the reason why children shouldn't have youtube accounts. Go play airsoft or play Black Ops, this video is for people that shoot guns (bullets, not plastic balls).
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
@Mr2ndAmendment no SHIT!
twiztid6430 1 year ago
sweeet my mosin was made in 1942 by izhevsk.they're nice guns arent they.i love them.i cant get the bayo all the way on.and if i get it half way its very hard to get back off.
OctoberRevolution1 1 year ago
hey does this rifle shoot up without the bayonet on
chimichanga1254 1 year ago
@chimichanga1254 yes it does, why wouldnt it?
BAZOOKABELLY 1 year ago
@BAZOOKABELLY
I've noticed the height stays the same with or without the bayonet but the only thing that changes between the two configurations is windage. With the bayonet fixed it shoots only 3 inches to the right. Without the bayonet it shoots 6 inches to the right (both at 100 yards). I fixed that problem by moving the front sight, but the bottom line is barrel harmonics. The bayonet interferes with the barrel vibrating during firing, which changes shot placement; valid question.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
I'm thinking about purchasing the m91/30 at big 5 since its on sale and I'm a ww2 buff. how good, generally speaking, is the quality of these rifles bought from big 5? I have heard some "rumors" that some shouldn't even be fired that most are for display purposes. Is this true?
dOZE86 1 year ago
@dOZE86
The one in the video is from Big 5, and the ones I've inspected from Big 5 are good. They are not actually from Big 5, Big 5 gets them from CAI (Century Arms International). CAI buys old milsurp rifles from eastern bloc countries, imports them, and then makes sure they are safe to fire. In their official documentation they recommend taking it to a gunsmith to have it checked out before shooting, but you should be good to go with CAI rifles (which are the ones sold at Big 5).
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
I'm actually getting one from a dunhams sporting good store near my house for ONLY $150!!
wcomedy 1 year ago
@Mr2ndAmendment
Thanks for the info! and do you know anywhere that might have any type of manual to go along with the rifle?
willdrury33 1 year ago
Good vid, I would like to know how to find out how old mine is, anyone know how I would go about doing that? and also where i can find some cheap, non-corrosive, ammo?
willdrury33 1 year ago
@willdrury33
It should have a date stamp on the top of the receiver, it should be visible by looking at the rifle from the top, you may need to get in close. The best, cheap, non-corrosive ammo would be Prvi Partizan ammunition. It's brass-cased and non-corrosive and is decently priced. Corrosive ammo is not bad as long as you clean it well after wards, it's not corrosive when it fires but when the salts in the powder are allowed to attract water and rust later on.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
I use middle finger for trigger pull.
tertommy 1 year ago
If that is indeed 300 yards you are a very lucky man. Most 91/30's don't group that well at 100 yards
bsrman36 1 year ago
@bsrman36
It is. I have done extensive work to make it more accurate without damaging it historically speaking. I have free-floated the barrel by sanding the insides of the stock and upper handguard, so it looks like the wood is touching but it's not. I did my own trigger job on it, adjusted the sights so it shoots straight without the bayonet fixed, and the barreled receiver is sitting on brass shim. The rifling is also beautiful to begin with, so with all of that it has become great.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
were would i get ammo for mine
spawnslayer22 1 year ago
@spawnslayer22
You can go to wideners or sportsmansguide and they have this stuff for real cheap. The best price is about $79 for a sealed can of 440 rounds. That is surplus ammo and it is corrosive, so you just have to clean your rifle well, but if you want newly-made non-corrosive ammo, then you can look up Prvi Partizan ammo, which is good, clean, new-manufactur ammo. Winchester and several other big-name brands make hunting ammo for it too, but it's more expensive.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
@Mr2ndAmendment can u please put a link on a comment to the NON-corrosive ammo
spawnslayer22 1 year ago
@spawnslayer22
It won't let me post url links, but check your inbox. Anybody else who wants links on ammo please let me know and I'll send them your way.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
the thing i dont like about the mosin nagant is that it dont got a scope
fallenhero678 1 year ago
@fallenhero678
Well they did make a scoped version, and you can buy one for about $450 to $500 at a gun show or through Century Arms International. They can be extremely accurate with a scope on them.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
i want 1 when i'm older they are really awesome
TheRaiders345 1 year ago
@TheRaiders345 im 12 and i have 1
brettphitentrionz 1 year ago
what was the name of the stain that you used on the mosin?
slyde77 1 year ago
@slyde77 If I remember right it was Miniwax "red sedona." I was going to do a video on staining Mosin stocks, but I didn't have time and now that I'm at my duty station it won't be a possibility for a while. Good luck!
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
Nice shooting!
katmaiman 1 year ago
now r u supposed to hit like the hood of the front sight and move the whole hood and everything and if u do were r u supposed to hit it bc i tried to move the sight did not move at all again i appreciate the help
lightness414 1 year ago
@lightness414
Check your inbox for a detailed response, I can't fit it in this space. For anyone else with the same issue, please PM me and I will answer!
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
I just picked up a Hex 1931 Tula and i love it. But yeah the finish on the stock sucks and im going to have to redo it i got it for 89 bucks at JG sales. Ill make a video on it soon. One question the bolt is kinda stiff you think its from not being used? or do you think it has to be cleaned better?
slyde77 1 year ago
@slyde77
Usually a sticky bolt is caused by built up cosmoline in the chamber. Try to clean it out the best you can before shooting, but the best way to clean out cosmoline is to shoot about 50 rounds through it quickly to heat it up, then clean out the cosmoline while it's still hot and pliable. Make sure you got gloves handy for the hot metal. To be sure, I'd recommend taking it to a gunsmith just to double check for safety and/or headspace issues.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
so r u saying at 200 yards the rifle shoots were u want it to go? bc my rifle does the same thing with shooting up and 2 the right. and i cant hit shit at 50. and also wat method do u use? messing with the front sight or do u just shoot down and 2 the left. i would appreciate the help.
lightness414 1 year ago
@lightness414
I don't mind that it shoots a little high at anything below 200 yards, but I moved the front sight post over to the right. If it's shooting to the right, the front sight post needs to go to the right, you can do this with a punch and a hammer by carefully sliding over the front sight, it's in a dovetail joint so it will slide over. For it shooting too high, I aim low at things lower than 200 yards, and anything after that I adjust accordingly.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
@lightness414
I don't mind that it shoots too high because I can see what I'm shooting at, so I aim low at stuff lower than 200 yards, but you need to learn how to do this and know your rifle to achieve success with this method. To fix this you need to raise the front sight post, so you can either slip a straw over the post and snip it where you need it, or you can take apart the front sight and modify it, but that requires some serious know-how. Aiming low works well.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
ammos cheap and the guns are very reliable! ive just bought a remmington shotgun from big5 and it works like a pro!
HiTiLLiDiE602 1 year ago
Nice. I have seen this gun on sale at Big 5 and im considering purchesing it because its so cheep. 4 questions. Is the rifle easy to clean? How much does the ammo cost? Does it jam much? Does it come with any excessories?
SaxMan22392 1 year ago
This rifle is a Big 5 rifle. The rifle is easy to clean because you really only have to clean the bore and chamber, but you must clean carefully because surplus ammo is corrosive. The ammo is cheap if you buy surplus ammo, and it does not jam at all. It comes with the teardrop tool, ammo pouch, rod parts, and oilers (and bayonet and sling). It's a great value, and the ammo is cheap, it's a great plinker rifle all around.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 year ago
you know it!
airsofter95062 2 years ago
thanks for the info I was kind of expecting a smart ass remark thanks for being cool
airsofter95062 2 years ago
Cool is the only way to be man, thanks for the question!
Mr2ndAmendment 2 years ago
whats the whole point in counter boring ? mines not so whats the point
airsofter95062 2 years ago
When the rifle is first made, there is a sharp edge on the muzzle of the barrel, which allows for more accuracy when the bullet leaves the barrel. Overtime this wears away, so the bullet just kind of flies out of the barrel instead of getting 100% correction and direction from the barrel up until the end. The counter bore just re-invents the edge and makes it crisp again, at the sacrifice of about an inch or so of rifling gone, but in theory the counter bore should make up for this loss.
Mr2ndAmendment 2 years ago
nice shooting
americanpatriot95 2 years ago 3
Thank you, I did a trigger job on it and it really helps get some serious groupings without taking away from the historical part too much (or at least something visible).
Mr2ndAmendment 2 years ago
What you need is a Finnish M-39. These are the best Mosins.
GK4848 2 years ago
I agree, I haven't got around to getting a Fin Mosin yet, but I see them at gun shows/shops all the time. I want to get one, but I like collecting the Russian ones and trying to accurize them without doing a "bubba job" on it and keeping true to the history of the weapon. Agreed though.
Mr2ndAmendment 2 years ago
I have a 1942 izhevesk as well ..mine shoots ok but has a sticky bolt issue...and is counterbored...there is no rifling after the front sight..stupid russian soldiers cleaning them from the muzzle ruined so many rifles i hear....
MrPettj 2 years ago
Yes, my M44 is counter-bored and it cannot hit anything. I lucked out and found this rifle at a sporting goods shop, the rifling is perfect, but the stock and metal finish were not in the best condition. After a little work, I brought it back up to speed. But yes, with a counter-bored rifle, the accuracy isn't going to be great.
Mr2ndAmendment 2 years ago
Not necessarily true. Essentially a counterbored rifle should be more accurate than a non-counterbored rifle because you have a new crown. This rifle may not be accurate for a number of reasons other than it just being counterbored.
Dp908 2 years ago
I think it was counter-bored, then re-shot-out again. My M44 can't hit the broad side of a dam.
Mr2ndAmendment 2 years ago
Ah, well counter-bored and then having another ten thousands of rounds run through it again most certainly won't help. lol
Dp908 2 years ago
finally someone who squeezes the tringer instead of pulling it
GoodShotSniper 2 years ago 2
would you have to adjust the front post for this then or what.
stekrirade 2 years ago
oh really? yeah i just bought one the other day and was shooting about 50 yards and was not hitting much. i was putting the irons right on the target. if you could help me out i would appreciate it.
stekrirade 2 years ago
I have the same gun and am trying to figure out what it is sighted in for. Do you know how many yards or meters it was originally sighted in for? I have not made any modifications. Also, I heard a rumor that it should be shot with the bayonet extended. True?
sirmedium 2 years ago
Yes, it is true that you need to fix the bayonet to shoot accurately with the Mosin. Soviet military doctrine of the time stated that all soldiers should have fixed bayonets at all times, so they sighted them in fixed at the factory. Also, the rifle is sighted in for what is roughly about 200m. This was because they wanted their men to kill the enemy before he got too close. So at 100 yds, almost every Mosin will shoot high and to the right. I'll send you a message on how to fix that.
Mr2ndAmendment 2 years ago
Makes perfect sense, I have an M91/30 got it for about 115 in absolutely excellent condition, when I went to the outdoor range (100yd) I always adjusted to shoot a bit lower on standard settings by just aiming a bit lower, so I got some pretty nice groups at 50-100yds although they are always to the right, off the center of the target page by about 5-6 inches right.
SSSDiaz7 2 years ago
do the same rules apply for the m44 carbine?
DefenderJP55 2 years ago
5 estrellas!!
andresmagnum338 2 years ago
You have an awesome Mosin! I recently bought my first one. Your stock is in an incredible condition, did you purchase it that way or did you have to work on it? What year is it?
flydfan 2 years ago
Well the details of it are in the vid description, but I bought it at Big 5 for $79. I wasn't concerned about the outer appearance, only the condition of the bore. It has excellent rifling, and I sanded down the nasty, Century Arms-applied varnish and stained it with red Minwax and sealed it with Minwax rub-on poly. The how-to vid is coming soon, thanks for the comment!
Keep Shooting
Mr2ndAmendment 2 years ago
Well I would love to see how you took the century arms finish off and did your own. I'm quite pleased with the stock on my Mosin, but I recently bought a K98 that really needs the stock refinished and I'm a "newb" to gun restoration so every bit helps! Thanks.
flydfan 2 years ago
Nice shooting, I have a '46 M44 that shoots dead on out to at least 275 yards...my 91/30 would be at least a foot right at 200 yards...
I have some similar vids posted, check them out..
wavelength1970 2 years ago
Thanks! You have a pretty good M44, I have one that was made in 1944 and it is counter-bored, so after about 100 yds, forget it. I would recomend a sight adjustment tool to fix your M91/30 unless you want to keep it that way, but I'll be putting up a review of a great sight adjustment tool I bought pretty soon.
-Mr. 2nd Amendment
Mr2ndAmendment 2 years ago
Yeah I think your right, I'm sure they cranked them out fast during the GPW. According to a book I have, they made 3.6 million M44's in 1944, and only 189,000 in '46.
I've always heard that counter-boring should actually help accuracy...?
wavelength1970 2 years ago
good job on the stain, it looks really close to original
ilovecats748 2 years ago