On The Loose" by Saga from Worlds Apart 1981 Using Soft Synths

[klonidier]

F'ing EPIC!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!

[rjmdrum]

Great to see someone playing this stuff and doing it well thanks

[cosmo100670]

You sir, are a badass!

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

@cosmo100670 you're too kind.. thanx

[faizonsayzar]

nothing short of fucking AWESOME! thanks Peter!

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

@faizonsayzar haha thank you

[faizonsayzar]

One of the best songs ever! As a synthgeek, I'm in love! Move ppl shld know this song!

[DarrenMalone253]

wow...freakin' goosebumps watching and listening - one of the best 80's songs ever!

[R2ROrancid]

Dude this was like an lsd trip...awesome XD

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

@R2ROrancid Lol. Thanx

[antso12]

@PeterTheSAGAFan Awesome! I'm speechless...

[buminbeer2]

I know this is asking alot, but this is a faster song and I can't see your finger movements clearly and am trying to play the whole tune, maybe a lesson from you on how to play this song? At least the notes of key it's in, I think it is basically Eb/F but can't get the notes in the beginning. You rock and thanks! Love me some Saga.

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

@buminbeer2 Hey, thank you...The notes at the beginning are:

Bb A G F Eb F G (arpeggiate up) 2x then

C A G F C F G (arpeggiate up)2x

Then chorus

RH piano sound

Eb i (fiurst inversion), F i (first inversion) Ebi, Fi

LH (pad sweeping)

Eb, F, Ebi, Fi

Let me know if you need the solo notes...

[buminbeer2]

@PeterTheSAGAFan Thank you so much friend, I thought the progression was going UP, not DOWN. I got it now, must work on speed! Also the solo, you did like 16ths of so using your right hand on the D#/Eb - C# -F and so on, I think?, Email me at Buminbeer2@yahoo.com if you can and got the rest of it down, man you rock and are good! I got the main inversion chords down as well. God, you are so quick and talented, I'm still learning after 25 years :) Thanks always, Subscribed to ya...

[r0ck3ts]

What is your sound card ?

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

@r0ck3ts Behringer UCA202



[GrampaBob69]

Wow that was excellent, very impressive.  I'm a beginner using soft synths on MIDIs because I play guitar not keys hehe. Have you ever done click tracks or anything?

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

@GrampaBob69 Thank you? Click tracks? Don't know what that is...

[adam872]

Nice job mate! Love the album this song came from and the tune itself of course. The reason I viewed it was mainly to hear how those Arturia soft synths sound. Pretty damn good by the looks of it.

[pedrosura]

@adam872 Thank u. Arturia synths are really awesome. My favorite 2 are the minimoog and cs80. They are on everyone of my videos, multiple times. I highly recommend them!

[adam872]

@pedrosura Nice one. I've always loved the sound of the CS80 but there's no way I'll ever own one. The Arturia version sounds like a fairly good alternative.

[ijagcwmw]

MAGNIFICENT, dude! i've always loved that song and you accompanied it well. can you advise me on the advantage of using forte as opposed to simply using cakewalk to split/layer vsts, aside from quick scene swaps? excellent video again, man. i just started learning the joy of playing ALONG with stuff i've always liked.

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

Thank you...I'm not sure if I know what advantages there are. If you can do everything you like with Cakewalk then it's a no brainer. I think Forte is designed for Live use and that is it's strength. I'm glad you like it... Have a bunch more. Some even better...

[ijagcwmw]

yes! i've been looking at some of your other work. looking forward to hearing more of saga's music than i knew existed (i only have the cd with 'on the loose' on it).

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

Saga is a very under rated band. If u like keyboards which u do, their first 4 albums are out of this world. In fact get Silent Night. Perhaps their best album. Get it if you can.

[drums4g]

Wow, great job!! I'm a RUSH fan, but I've always like this one by SAGA. ((Thumbs Up))

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

@drums4g thank you. I love Rush myself. Did you see virtual rush?

[drums4g]

Not a problem PTSF. I haven't seen it, but I'll look for it.

[tbuckpedalkeys]

excellent work! i have to learn this song for an audition coming up with a local band. curiously, what VST was used for that distinctive lead solo part?? thanks!

[pedrosura]

Thank you. On the video I am using Arturia's minimoog. The sound is a preset modified. Also, I think I layered a couple of sounds. Good luck with the audition. Any group that has u play Saga for an audition is my kind of group. If u have any question about the keys let me know.

Cheers. P

[tbuckpedalkeys]

Thanks! i'm trying to figure out patches and layers for the intro/verse and lead sections particularly. i want to nail this fairly close but i'm struggling with the patches. i'm not a synth programmer. any way you could share patches and/or presets or any details on how to configure? i'm interested in your minimoog lead sounds and intro riffs. maybe email me patch bank files? i'll represent this song precisely here in wisconsin! any help is appreciated...

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

Sure, no problem. Do you have the CS-80 and the Minimoog from Arturia?

Basically the sounds:

The initial lead sound is minimoog v

The chorus is a piano (DSK) layered with a CS80v pad

On the second verse the initial lead sound and an additional minimoog lead with the left hand

The guitar solo is accompanied with a polymoog string pad and a PPG pad.

The synth solo is a couple of minimoog lead sounds together. What VST host do you have?

[tbuckpedalkeys]

i have similar vst's and can replicate pads and piano sounds no problem. i'm using minimoogue vst, which is a free version and will have to do for now. i'm getting close on the intro riffs - are you using a pad background sound with the initial lead sound, or is there just a bunch of reverb resonating? as for the synth solo sound, i want that to be perfect. i would love to know the moog settings for those patches if possible. thousand thanks! you are a great help!

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

Send me your email. I'll email the jpg image of the moog.

I use a modulation matrix which your minimogue doesn't have but you should still get a similar sound. On the initial lead sound the sound has delay, there is also a string that I play and then bend. I change the sound during the song by changing the midi channel. Also both keyboards are split in three places.

[GrampaBob69]

@PeterTheSAGAFan I'm just curious what the patches within the CS-80 and minimoog you use? They sound great!

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

@GrampaBob69 The initial moog sound, I made from scratch using a square oscillator Roth delay. The string is sample tank polymoog. On the chorus the pad on cs80 is curiouser curiouser. The piano is dsk piano. The solo is two minimoog sounds layered . I tweak these two sounds so that the result would sound like the recording. On of the sounds is based on a saw oscillator and the other one on a square wave..

[GrampaBob69]

@PeterTheSAGAFan Cool thnx. I was hoping for a preset patch haha so I could check them out. Home made is even better, great sound man!

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

@GrampaBob69 Do you have the Arturia minimoog? I can probably just pass you some of my patches. Give me ur email then...

[Solaris1992]

Wow! Great Performance! I have one question. What is exactly Forte? It's possible use it in order to play several VST instruments at once? (excuse me I'm new in computer music...) By the way... yamaha kx8 is better than prokeys88es. ;-)

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

I'm glad you like it and thank you. I'm going to get the UF7 by CME. I'll let you know how I like it...

[PeterTheSAGAFan]

I'm not getting the UF7. The user reviews are below horrible. The customer service is non existent and the hardware and software is extremely buggy. I'm looking at the Akai 61 MPK instead