The Founding Fathers and a Secular America

[Jordanicolass]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR ... underscore that; BY THEIR CREATOR!! and in case you havent red the whole declaration of independence the last part says: "with a firm reliance on the protection of DIVINE PROVIDENCE""

[1105Chance]

@Pooternackle5 Christianity is not supposed to be institutionalized by some state. It is an individual faith, shared among believers. People perverted that for their own purposes and people came to this country for religious freedom. Today everyone is free to believe what they want so I don't see what all the yacking back and forth is about other than those creationists trying to infiltrate our educational system. But in general, I am Christian and have had many friends who were atheists.LIBERTY

[MagicTellaVision]

Smart free thinking people of the Free World do not pray to a dead Middle Eastern man who has been elected to be our God. King James Book is not the word of God, Sincerely The United States of America

[patriotadEEUU]

@MagicTellaVision

Another thing many people don't know is that some of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons. Meaning, they used the King James Bible and founded America upon Bible principles.

They also didn't want a theocracy.

[projectx86x]

THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

HOLY TRINITY CHURCH v. THE UNITED STATES

143 U.S. 457, 12 S.Ct. 511, 36 L.Ed. 226

February 29, 1892 "These and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation."

[bdf2718]

Thomas Paine is truly the founding grandfather of the USA.

Without his pamphleteering there may not have been a revolution.

Without his "Crisis Papers" the revolution may have failed.

He coined the term "The United States of America."

He was for the abolition of slavery before the war of independence.

He was instrumental in the French Civil War.

He stuck by his principles in the aftermath of the French Civil War knowing it might lead to his death.

[TheRationalthinker]

Those who cite the Treaty of Tripoli as evidence that this nation was not founded on the Christian religion, usually ignore the Treaty of Paris of 1783. This Treaty, negotiated by Ben Franklin and John Adams among others, is truly a foundational document for the U.S, because by this Treaty Britian recognized the independence of the United States. The Treaty begins with the words, "In the Name of the most holy and undivided Trinity... ," and there is no dispute about its validity or its wording.

[DoctorXProducer]

You have a good point, however, keep in mind that the treaty ended the Revolutionary War and that the Constitution did not come into being until 4 years later. When the Treaty of Tripoli was made, it was using the language of an established American government and not that of a federation of separate colonies as was the case under the Articles of Confederation.

[kaboomgoo]

You never have seperation of church and state. I can't recall a modern president that was not attched to religion. It seems like a false concept to me. Atheist, secular they are nothing more than religous belief. They just put there motivation elsewhere. The good book would be a pretty good way to run this country at this point, not these fake people.

one who really belives in Christ. Tell the truth, feed the poor turn the other cheek. Sound pretty good to me!!!!

[1105Chance]

@kaboomgoo Whose to say a President is really a Christian. Many people can proclaim themselves to be Christian but be far from it, particularly politicians. I put my faith in God, not in nations or politicians. God's kingdom is not of this world.

[TheRationalthinker]

Worth watching: America's Heritage is not christian: True or False?

[CaJeffO]

2ND PART: I personally observe that your approach to every one working towards one does leave holes abused by various cultures and visa programs. And lacks facts as to no other religion played a greater part of shaping the minds that wrote The Constitution.

However the video is creative in framing America as I believe it was meant to be. Secondly, when Christianity is not manipulated or forced on people is part of the cohesive glue that made or republic last this long.

[CaJeffO]

I'm Christian & I like this video because it points out that our Constitution creates freedom and thus the right of religious freedom. And, is not a theocracy, and is a democratic republic. CONTINUED.

[pissedpatriot1776]

but great video, because it is so unbiased and well done!! Good job here!

[pissedpatriot1776]

Good video. Well balanced leaving a lot to interperetation. I think all would a gree that a Theocracy would not be a good thing. However whenever one addresses the Fathers letters, court sessions, Congressional meeting, these things have the name of God spewed all over them. I think they were trying to not endorrse a National Funded Church, to prevent the perversion of Religion for the sake of power. I do not think this means throw the word God off of everything in Public. Thats actually Marxist