What happened in the year '64? Three albums come to my mind: Juju (Shorter), In 'n Out (Joe Henderson), A Love Supreme (Coltrane) (PS. McCoy Tyner appears on all of them). And I've probably forgotten many more similar gems. What unbelievable times! That's rarer than all solar systems planets aligning. Now, I know jazz '11 is far from being stale, but the 60s produced the core of jazz music. Thank you America for that. Jazz must be your best invention yet ;)
@mdudekm I like the 60s best as well when it comes to jazz. Trane, Henderson, Shorter, Sanders, Monk, Hubbard, Mobley, Blakey, Byrd and some others that won't come to my mind right now. I still feel like jazz kinda ended early 70's but those gems they left behind can't be taken back no more.
@mdudekm What happened to Wayne shorter and also to Herbie Hancock ( Empyrean isles) in year 1964 was Miles Davis quintet. One can sense a strong Miles' influence on these albums.
The song is fantastic, which you all all ready know otherwise you would be listening to it. Now The additional insight posted by VideoStan and lljtamt makes it even cooler. Gives us/me a little more to wrap my grey matter around.
Wayne Shorter began to diverge from the path of John Coltrane with this release. One might consider this album (with all due respect) "Wayne plays John". The ocean is so deep here, my comment is not meant to slight any presentation, merely to consider placing ourselves in Wayne's shoes in 1964, considering what was "The Sound" and consider what sound and vibe the major players were all being exposed to. I just finished "Speak No Evil" here, his next release, which feels totally different.
@videostan Thank you for your thoughtful comment. See what you think about this: 1. Wayne seems to have been so heavily inspired and influenced by John's sound that they could never be completely divergent from each other. 2. No saxophone player has diverged from John's path. It's more that he went where no one has ever gone. His explorations took him higher and deeper into his vision of peace and love. And even today, his work stands as a lighthouse of beauty, dedication, and possibility.
Trane and Shorter never recorded together. I think that's because Shorter joined the Miles Davis Quintet in 1964 and Trane had left Davis and the music scene in general prior to that. Compare this album to Trane's 'Crescent' (also 1964) and you'll discover a world of difference.
Elvin is like a whirlwind of magic on the drums . . . to put it in technical terms, haha.
KingRundzap 1 week ago
Elvin Jones without question the most under rated drummer
ever.
32a34a 5 months ago 2
Elvin Jones without question the most under rated drummer
ever.
32a34a 5 months ago
The best Elvin, EVER!
charlestelerant 9 months ago
The first jazz album I ever heard.
stunnashades2020 9 months ago
ブルーノートのウェインショーターは全て外せない､全て聴いて彼を､ｼﾞｬｽﾞをチョッピリ知る!～JUJU だ!～エルビンのプッシュ#jazzm
blackandtanful 9 months ago
What happened in the year '64? Three albums come to my mind: Juju (Shorter), In 'n Out (Joe Henderson), A Love Supreme (Coltrane) (PS. McCoy Tyner appears on all of them). And I've probably forgotten many more similar gems. What unbelievable times! That's rarer than all solar systems planets aligning. Now, I know jazz '11 is far from being stale, but the 60s produced the core of jazz music. Thank you America for that. Jazz must be your best invention yet ;)
mdudekm 9 months ago 5
@mdudekm I like the 60s best as well when it comes to jazz. Trane, Henderson, Shorter, Sanders, Monk, Hubbard, Mobley, Blakey, Byrd and some others that won't come to my mind right now. I still feel like jazz kinda ended early 70's but those gems they left behind can't be taken back no more.
Praguedive 9 months ago
@mdudekm OUT OF LUNCH!
tannoizen 6 months ago
@mdudekm What happened to Wayne shorter and also to Herbie Hancock ( Empyrean isles) in year 1964 was Miles Davis quintet. One can sense a strong Miles' influence on these albums.
MarinIzSplita 6 months ago
@mdudekm I agree. I reckon Jazz is the best thing to come out of America!
Ningxiabird 5 months ago
Holy whole tone scale, Batman!
mcmike100 11 months ago
Listen to Tyner! I know others have said it but isn't he just great?
FlaviusMaximus1967 11 months ago
The song is fantastic, which you all all ready know otherwise you would be listening to it. Now The additional insight posted by VideoStan and lljtamt makes it even cooler. Gives us/me a little more to wrap my grey matter around.
RevWrona 1 year ago
Towards the ending IMO it turns into a Jackson Pollack. Shorter is really something! Wow!
roge69charger 1 year ago
Whole tone mastery
MusicianofStark 1 year ago
Wayne Shorter began to diverge from the path of John Coltrane with this release. One might consider this album (with all due respect) "Wayne plays John". The ocean is so deep here, my comment is not meant to slight any presentation, merely to consider placing ourselves in Wayne's shoes in 1964, considering what was "The Sound" and consider what sound and vibe the major players were all being exposed to. I just finished "Speak No Evil" here, his next release, which feels totally different.
videostan 1 year ago
@videostan Thank you for your thoughtful comment. See what you think about this: 1. Wayne seems to have been so heavily inspired and influenced by John's sound that they could never be completely divergent from each other. 2. No saxophone player has diverged from John's path. It's more that he went where no one has ever gone. His explorations took him higher and deeper into his vision of peace and love. And even today, his work stands as a lighthouse of beauty, dedication, and possibility.
lljtam1960 1 year ago
This tune entranced me from the first time.
BrainpoliceMusic 1 year ago
The first time I heard this, I listened to it for about 3 seconds and thought, "Oh man, this is gonna be nuts..."
blahkaw98 1 year ago 2
Elvin is a beast.
fredkingsss 1 year ago 2
Elvin!!!
Gotta love him. Brilliant stuff here.
scottp118 1 year ago
thanks, this, house of jade and mahjong are my favs on this
impulsobytheshades 1 year ago
I can't get enough of Wayne Shorter
pideloo 2 years ago 2
the juju LP is shorter sounding just like trane.trun out the lights and let a jazz fan hear juju.one said cook trane.i said that's not trane.
claybornwilliams 2 years ago
agreed
angelbeta 2 years ago
Tyner particularly fantastic on piano in this track!
rogerjazzfan 2 years ago 15
Trane and Shorter never recorded together. I think that's because Shorter joined the Miles Davis Quintet in 1964 and Trane had left Davis and the music scene in general prior to that. Compare this album to Trane's 'Crescent' (also 1964) and you'll discover a world of difference.
Praguedive 2 years ago
They did, however, hang out and practice together...oh they did one gig together; it's in the literature somewhere.
pfaessel1 2 years ago
Awesome!! Shorter with the Trane regular musicians. Possibly, the greatest Shorter's album! Thanks for this magnificent jazz track!
rogerjazzfan 2 years ago 7