John Piper - Creation vs. God's glory

[rEdRoLiCa]

"...and the lamb will be the lamp." - ummmmmm, WHAT? Are you on drugs dude? Do you mean like Sheep from Chernobyl?

[joshhevans]

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[OllieMugwump]

You demented piece of crap Piper!

[rdor011]

How can these be "gifts" if you aren't supposed to partake in it (to any degree)?

[ProgressiveAction10]

Too stupid to understand science and to unstable to accept reality?

Do you need an imaginary friend into adulthood, and a delusion of eternal life to make your real life feel worthwhile?

Then Religion may be right for you!

[keepinitmellow121]

@ProgressiveAction10, This is not religion bro,this is TRUTH,and LOVE. Gently and hopefully presenting itself to you,but wether you know this or not,Jesus Christ is Lord, and he is still going to be Lord even if you dont believe. So know this man, 1st John 4:9-10...God loves you bro,even when you dont love Him,he loves you,more than you could ever love anyone else. come on man,dont waste your life,there's a true God,and he loves you.he's given you a purpose. dont take it lightly,lifes too short.

[not2brightDOTcom]

Piper hits another one out of the park...

[sungmee45]

Thank you brother John Piper for the encouraging words, that we all should applied into our lives and learn to live as Christ live.

[Hiscall888]

O GOD, help us to be in continual exaltation of JESUS to YOUR Glory!!!

Amen.

[EnervatedSociety]

What a bunch of garbage. Lies, all of it. He just wants your money.

[HarmonyinJesus]

Um, Jon Piper pastors a church in a very far from wealthy area, and lives in that area with them, and has a foundation set up to LIMIT his income from his books, and I have never once seen him asking for donations in any of his videos. Do more research next time before you accuse someone.

[ianat9]

Yes! Christ will be the light of the new heavens and new earth. But God created all there is, and us he going to rubbish his creation. We are the apple of his eye, created in his image, but the heavens declare the Glory of God: how much more the new heavens. I feel we can seek to save sinners just so they can go to heaven and be with Jesus-glory be, but there will be such glory in GOD'S recreation

[MustardSeedish]

So true. I went to a "End of Times" class over the summer, and it was more of what we will get than the glory of Christ. I lost respect for the teacher because of it.

[TimotheosCauvin]

There is going to be a new heaven and a new earth! I know, I know!! People can't deal with the idea of sin! Just the word offends many, SIN! However, it's a fact of life and ya need to get over it by being born again and trusting in Jesus and without your binky (naturalistic humanism)! Well, I guess you can stay in denial if ya need to!

(It's quite comfortable for the sinner to blind out the existence of a just and righteous God, too; isn't it?)

Praying for you!

[TimotheosCauvin]

Oh, I will continue to share the gospel - that's for sure.

But I don't share your view that the level of education ultimately determines whether one exepts the Good News or not. Most professors of theology I know are very well educated people, even when it comes to philosophy, natural science, and/or contemporary culture.

I do think that the mere naturalistic view, resting on questionable premises, is the one that presupposes a lack of knowledge.

Praying for you - again! Pax tecum.

[TimotheosCauvin]

Don't know why mentioning theologians is lame. Those are intelligent people who have studied the faith and its documents for most of their lives, coming to the conclusion that it can be held with intellectual veracity. The guy who teaches systematic theology at our faculty has PhDs in Mathematics and Physics ... also we should be aware that scientific knowledge alone doesn't prevent from errors in other areas.

[gondorking86]

In fact I know quite a few Christians who are scientists. If it is lame for Christians to mention theologians, then why is it not lame for naturalistic materialists to mention scientists? My experience is that most theologians know a thing or two about science, but most naturalistic materialists don't know squat about theology. Whenever they try to make a case against God or Christianity, they almost always make arguments that have been refuted a thousand times.

[gondorking86]

Do you fear death, 99minerkc? Do you think that life is better than death? If not, then why don't you commit suicide? (I'm not suggesting that you do, I'm just asking you what your reason is.) If you say that life is better than death, then are you not making a moral judgment, and therefore stealing wood from the theistic worldview? But if you don't think that life is better than death, how can you function as a human being?

[gondorking86]

If life is no better than death, why do we bother having laws that protect life? Is murder not wrong? If happiness is no better than unhappiness, then why do people (including, no doubt, you) try so hard to be happy? Why do we bother having words like "good" and "bad" in our vocabulary?

(I'm not going to read Ehrman's book before responding to what you said. If he has anything in particular to say that you'd like me to know, then you may certainly quote him and I'd be happy to read your quote.)

[gondorking86]

BTW, I don't fear death either. But I bet the reasons I have are worlds apart from those you have. I do think, however, that fear of death is a perfectly sensible and natural thing, even though death is inevitable. The inevitability of a thing does not take away its dreadfulness. But I have reasons that are substantial enough to counter any fear of it that I might have. I wonder what your reasons are.

[gondorking86]

What must a person do to himself in order to remove his perfectly natural and sensible fear of death, to say that life is no better than death? I suppose he would have to tell himself that he is worthless and really believe it.

Do you think yourself brave because you refuse to believe that you will stand before the judgment of God? I think the brave thing to do would be to humble yourself before God, to put yourself in his hands (so to speak).

Then again, is bravery better than non-bravery?

[thecrazedmd]

Philippians 1:21

[gondorking86]

Rawr!

[gondorking86]

I've heard Ehrman in debate. Is that good enough?

[multiwebinc]

Saying that someone has to go out and buy a book and read it from cover to cover before you will even give him the honor of reading his maximum 500 character comments (which I'm sure he took a while to think out and write to you, not to mention he said he is praying for you) is pretty childish.

[multiwebinc]

He's trying to help you. The least you could do is give him the dignity of reading his messages.

[ThisIsMySockAccount]

I love hearing Piper saying this!

I've known for some time that the world has an unrealistic image of what "Heaven" (eternal life) and what the Creator and Christ will actually be like. I think we are ALL going to be shocked when we see it all in its extreme glory & magnificence. This little 2:39 video made my day.

[OneAvidity]

What a good message... A very good message...

[WaitingforChrist]

Amen!

"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

[John 3:6]

[ThisIsMySockAccount]

You always send me the best stuff! Love ya Kiddo!

[WaitingforChrist]

:o)