@KidAinaVeyron yeah this is a real hardcourt and AO was the slowest hardcourt slam. Look at the slick bounce. Today's courts are shameful. It has something to with today's balls as well. They changed it to bigger or heavier ones.
@tennistubetv Nalbandian made it to the 2002 Wimbledon Final against Lleyton, and won the year end Atp championship against Roger in 2005. But I agree with this much talent David should be a multiple Grand Slam winner, he just lacks consistency, mental toughness and he could lose a little weight. On his day.he is just as good as Roger..but particularly now that comes very rare.
@Morlich209 With those comments, they were referring to the fact that neither player waited on errors, not that they didn't make them. But they took the play into their control.
...simply aborted because she was deemed unfit for massive media-exposure...
What is certain is that tennis dads and moms basically all look like mafiosi and that behind the scenes, the ongoings must be QUITE DIFFERENT from the insipid facade we are shown today. These players are nothing but owned race-horses in some banksters stable at present.
...greatest and it's such an honour to be playing him and there's such mutual respect and bla bla bla? Is Nadal being ADVISED to say these things, is this part of his media training?
Look what happens to a player who steps out of line, like Wozniacki joking about a baby kangaroo scratching her at the AO 2011: she was made to apologize EXTENSIVELY, promise she'd NEVER lie again.
EVERY word is measured by the social controllers, and one wonders whether careers of people like Vaidisova were ...
...they're all voicing the same banalities, constantly thanking the sponsors, engaged in all the New World Order charities and politically-correct stances, it's just minddulling.
At least Roger has some proficiency in dealing with the media but even there all the lines have become predictable, and the constant laying on of this feelgood vibe of fair play between him and Nadal has become excruciatingly dull, especially from Nadal's side.
I always thought Nalbandian was perhaps THE most talented player, certainly about as good as Fed if not better. He just didn't put as much into it. His game is a joy to watch, all about massive talent, and watching a player like Djoko or Nadal is boring in comparison. They're all about massive effort, stamina and hyper-ambition.
Tennis was a lot more interesting 10 years ago. I think people like Murray, Djoko & even Nadal ruined the game. The personalities are becoming more & more bland,...
@suddenlyitsobvious very talented yes, but as talented as federer imposible! federer´s talent is the greatest ever seen. Since a little kid he was expected to win a lot of grand slams, thats the kind of a monster he was.
The only difference between Federer and Nalbandian is really their work ethic. Fed worked very hard and achieved greatness, Nalby struggled to work and fell off the charts after 2007.
@3timeMVPNash well I think what did Nalbandian in was he was injured alot after 07. The Same thing happened with Davydenko. His foot injury in. If you don't play regularly you will pay the price in tennis.
@ox092 The difference was that Nalbandian didn't look after his body whilst he was fit, it's no surprise that injuries came later in his career. It's a shame but he's always been somewhat of an enigma.
@0OlIS5 technique-wise, federer's forehand here is a lot more efficient than it is now. Nowadays he uses his forehand a lot better and thus most people don't notice it.
@0OlIS5 Yea he's obviously stronger now so his take back is a bit shorter...His grip has turned a lot more eastern these past few years so his contact point is actually a bit behind than it is here (but that doesn't really matter much). Although you won't find a lot of difference in the ball he produces, he uses less wrist here and more arm/torso movements. In doing so you avoid wrist injury (I used to use a lot of wrist and that screwed me over) and you use your stronger muscles (shoulder/abs)
@0OlIS5 In utilising your stronger muscles (he uses them together beautifully here), not only does it make it easier for you, it saves energy. Right now, he's fit as anything so it actually doesn't matter that much, but I just miss the days when his forehand was a bit more 'textbook'.
nalbandian is a decent player, probably had what it takes to win a slam or be a contender to be world no.1
but to say nalbandian had the talent of federer or even the greatest talent of all time is seriously pushing it. he pretty much just had 2 good tournaments (both in 2007) in his entire career to show for.
Your concern is not accurate. Even this video shows Nalbandian's forehand is superior to Federer's. His footwork here is superior to Federer's. His touch and drop shot ability is on par with Federer (not enough net points).
I remember watching tennis back in 2001 and seeing Nalbandian's run at Wimbledon and thinking Nalbandian would be the next big thing. With the correct mentality he is superior to Federer.
you're comparing nalbandian to a pre-slam-winning federer to prove that nalbandian is better? i'm not sure if you're kidding. if you seriously think nalbandian has a better forehand than federer then theres not much else to talk about
My friend, in 2003 Federer was at his peak. He won Wimbledon and he won the Years End Master's series final against Agassi. The only thing that kept him from going further in the Aus Open and US Open was, guess who? David Nalbandian. He is one of the greatest wastes of talent in sports.
@dmh091 Federer's peak wasn't in 2003, it was somewhere in 2004-2006. He was still struggling in majors up to Wimbledon 2003. Nalbandian miissed one too many opportunities to win a slam 2002-2007, after getting an injury in 2009, he was never the same. To say that Nalbandian is more talented than Federer is a bit of a stretch. BTW, his great Wimbledon run was in 2002, not 2001.
@dmh091 Yeah he sure did, and I know he lost to Schuettle in the next round, but Schuettle had an exceptional tournament, even if he was a huge underdog and outsider. He played well, but he was also quite fortunate. In the 3rd round, he was supposed to Play Safin, but Safin pulled out before the match even started because of a wrist injury (which sidelined him for the majority of the year), then he played a lackluster/tired Nalbandian in the QF, then a very tired Roddick in the SF.
Just check out the parts of the video, for example, when Nalbandian decides to pick up his game, like the last 2 minutes. Federer cannot do anything against him.
wow nalbandian was skinny back then, i had totally forgot. wow. u kno, im a massive federer fan and i respect nalbos talent more than i respect nadals. the man should have been a modern legend. he is a sensation, or was.
lol Federer is trying to pressure Nalbandians backhand. I guess at the time Federer didn't know that Nalbandian has the best backhand in tennis history
Nalbandian is younger and had had the better career up to that point. Now Federer is one of the greatest of all time and Nalbandian is one of the greatest disappointments.
the probelm with federer, as the video shows, is that post-2007 he started to hit with too much spin with huge racquet swings, and completely neglected the flat forhands/backhands strokes......thats why he lost to nadal aussi 09,del potro us open 09, djokovic the last 2 hc slams......and he has that arrogance to try to out-hit through the opponents even when it doesn't work....all the fame and success really got him mentally.
Don't you see the contradiction there? He hits with too much spin now, but at the same time tries to outhit people? If he was just trying to outhit everyone, he'd play with less spin.
The problem for Roger is that he has just gotten older. He's lost a step, so his defense isn't as good. It also hurts that his backhand is being targeted more because everyone knows how good his forehand is and how to exploit his backhand. It's hard to flatten out when everyones spinning to your BH.
"hit too much spin" post-2007 i meant in general , not 100% of the time.....the key thing is, whenever roger play against the likes of nadal, nole, del potro or any other player who catch a superb day from the baseline- he tries to beat them from the baseline by retrieving weak balls, and have that "im gonna beat you in your own game" attitude. go look at his gm vs nole in 2010 us open and 2011 aussi open and see what im talking about......he plays with know tactic or game plan
another example, is the del potro us open 09 match- he played flat slice & forhands the first set and owned del potro, had set point in the 2ed set, and then out of nowhere just started playing weak spiny balls to del potro forehand and basicaly warm his rythem- from then to the 5th he just blow federer of the court and won.
federer is a very poor player in therms of tactics sticking to the game plan.
@makaveliguy he was tired and always play to entertain, do u know his 5th set winning percentage after 2009 is almost 0%? Everybody knows slice to del potro and he lose, with federer's strong slice he could have slice and dropshot, volley whole match. He did it in AO09 against delpo but i guess he wanted to entertain by trading ground strokes in US, got punished. He tried to play to opponent strength and realise he can't keep up with age.
well, last time i checked the name of the game is wining. so if he just showed up to slam final to "entertain", he may as well tie up is shoes for good and call it career. he could have had 17 slams and non-calendar grand slam.....and make it even harder for nadal to chase his slam total. just pure clown this federer.
@makaveliguy why not for the fans? At that time he got 15 and broke record, proven himself by winning french. He won the next one by playing to murray weakness to pay back the blunder. You get the feeling If he won that one against delpo he wouldn't have won the AO.
What's up with that shirt, Fed? Ugly. Much classier now. And man! A skinny nalbandian seems more effective. But I can get over his hair and him using Prince--so different!
Roger is just as good now as he ever was. If this match had happened recently, people would attribute the loss to age. Nalbandian just played incredibly, plain and simple.
@youziness I think it's funny how people think Roger has or had the most powerful foreahand. Roger's game has always been to draw a short ball off his opponents and THEN fire a forehand. From the back of the court his forehand never possessed power like the Del Potros and Soderlings.
@ZXcannon his fh do more damage than del potro and soderling, they are based on pure power without variation and their racquet headspeed is slower, means shots easier to read. Before he suddenly became good in 2003 he don't have strength, power nor stamina but have the shots and variety. I guess he improved in his power then to become no.1.
@youziness I couldn't agree more on the variety bit. His opponents just couldn't get rhythm, though now days he seems to have an ego and tries to hit through his opponents which pros like Djokovic and Murray love. He needs to go back to his old effective variety game if he wants to win another slam.
Just noticed Nalby's changed his foot motion during his serve. Now he moves his right foot before hitting the ball. In this video he doesn't move it. Does anyone know when this change occured ?
estaban al mismo nivel en este momento los dos, venian de los juniors de jugar muchos partidos juntos se conocian bien...quien iba a pensar que federer despegaria como un cohete a la luna y ganaria 16 grand slams a partir de esta derrota...y nalbandian 0
is it just me or is this flat hitting so much more entertaining to watch than the angles, chips and heavy spin shots that we see in todays game, even though it may not be as good technically
Nalbandian doesn't train hard enough and his motivation and mental fitness isn't really close to where it should be, to be an all time great. Right now, he is known for being an extremely gifted player with clean, crisp groundstrokes, excellent technique and great all court skills and anticipation, but in tennis you need the mental strength, probably more so than anything else. Nalbandian will be 29 when the Australian Open starts. I don't know if it's too late for him to win a slam, but.....
i think you're giving nalbandian too much credit there, powerful and crisp groundies i agree
but his all court skill is questionable, more often than not, especially recently, his on-court tactics are horrible
and his anticipation isnt as great as most people would make of him, he has more troubles returning big servers than the current top 4 players (especially federer, now he is the king at returning big servers)
people just love him because his techniques in groundies are flawless
@foul01 In terms of passion and mental strength i think federer had lots of help from his current wife. Every successful man has a capable woman behind. She dosen't have physical beauty and is older but there must be reason federer wants to marry her. Nalbandian and Safin with same talent but dont have any prolonged passion, they disappear after their first injury, cant sustain more than 2 years playing at peak. I think the woman is the difference.
@foul01 I will have it said that Nalbandian has the best agressive return of serve I ever saw. Federer gets more back, sliced that is. Yes outside conditions thats true, but thats in the mind I think...
5: Game Plan: you hardly ever hear any commentator criticize federer's game plan against anyone, his tactics are more often than not spot on. nalbandian not as much, but i guess thats a combination of both Variety and Mind
that said, there are actually not that many similarities between the two, except for the fact that both are among the cleanest and smoothest hitters in today's tennis
i do think people are giving nalbandian too much credit. federer is far superior and nalbandian only really has two masters and one master cup to support his claim
@foul01 that's such bs! lol nalbandian has one of the best return games out there. I would love for you to cite one match where nalby's return game was an issue. Nalbandian's biggest problems were always injuries, lack of fitness, and his mental game. It's never been his return game.
@foul01 Agassi is a bit overrated when it comes to being called 'the greatest return of all time,' IMO. I think he is definitely one of the best, but he was reaction returner, someone who stabbed, or lunged. That's why he had so many return winners, but if you hit the corners, he is in trouble, that's why he had trouble returning Federer's serve when they played. Federer can hit his spots. At the 04 AUS, Safin, another guy who could hit all spots had 33 aces, 0 DF+80 winners against AA.
@foul01 huh... I can't think of many times I've seen Nalbandian struggle against big serves... you'd have to name specific matches. Even against the likes of Roddick and Safin I've seen him keep up a great return game. On a different point, I think Agassi's return game is overrated (I know, ppl will attack me here). Agassi was great at stepping in and attacking on the return, but by playing so close he'd get aced more often than other players.
"nalbandian is more talented and better than federer at his best when he is at his best"
seriously, on what basis are people saying these things? the 5 set victory he had when federer was visibly injured in master cup 2007? or the two victories in year end 2007 when federer is already becoming more vulnerable? nalby probably was at his best then, but who can say so was federer?
nalbandian is amazing when he's on, i'll give him that
Nalbandian toys with Fed in so many points here that it´s scary and allmost sick! Scary because it´s Federer, and sick because it´s not a player know for achieving much other than toying with the best players!
Nalbandian is better than federer when he is at his best (against the federer at his best too). But mentally, he trumbles. Hope he can win at least one slam to be the best argentinian ever.
@cj397 Probz. Henman had 6 SF GS appearances, Nalby 4 and a final. Nalby did win a few more important tournaments, but Henman was still a handsome player, and probably would've been a far more successful player if serve and volley was still the status quo in the late 90's early 2000's. DelPo will probably outshine Nalby as Argentina's greatest post '00 talent in the long run though
@DanimalLawlz Yes, that's a good point of view. i was just speaking in terms of talent capability. nalbandian to me is in the top 3 greatest players of the 00's, simply because of his talent.
@thegreatNEb pause at 6:13 and you'll see Nalbandian is up two sets to one. At 7:11, Federer is serving for the fourth set at 5-1, 30-15. At 7:36 it's two sets all and Federer is serving for one all.
people think nalbanian isnt as good or federer isnt as good
but the truth is todays game has so much spin and pop on the ball its a really hard ball to get back
but back then alot of the shots were hit right in the strike zone of the opponent so its a bit easier to hit great winners thats why nadal gives people so much problems especially federer and the high backhands
why don´t you just disapprove of my statement, saying that it was joke, instead of writing, that I am a joke?
I have clearly written about talent, not achievements. There are many players with a terrific talent but never get through because of bad luck, injuries or bad habits. Rios became Nr1 & was indeed highly talented, whether as talented as Guga, Fed, Pete, Rafa, Safin etc. is of course disputable. He suffered injuries and behaved unprofessionaly. Same with Nalbandian. Peace.
@ulizinho bro, i know u're talking about talent, and i know who Rios is, and no, i don't see the talent that is comparable to those class. I see that from Nalbandian though.
I dont see, why you dont see it....just watch a summary of Rios triumph over Agassi in Key Biscayne, which made him Nr 1. He had a superb control and you never could predict where the shots were going. He could take the balls very early, especially with his backhand. And he was smaller then Chang. And a real badass.
by the way: I wonder how things would have gone, if Kuerten, Safin and this super Nalbandian would not have suffered so many injuries. Guga on clay could have been a threat for Nadal. Nalbandian was Fed´s biggest opponent and Safin one of the few who beat Fed in a GS when he was in his prime.
@ulizinho Nalbandian from 05-06 was always a threat every time he played Nadal or Federer, but yes he was injured, not much can be said, HOWEVER, Nadal had been marred by injury for a good period of time,bounced back and got several slams, thus it is also legitimate to say that "staying power, and recovery" is part of talent, if Nalbandian as talented as he is struggles so much to bounce back everytime, that's a bad quality as well.
You are right. As the speed has increased in tennis, the physical, athletic part becomes more important. A very talented player like Becker with bad footwork could not have the same success nowadays. Federer´s success is also due to his unbelievable presence without big injuries in the majors. I remember when Sampras lost vs Agassi in Melbourne and complained, that Andre only won, because he himself got tired. Andre replied: Fitness is part of the game. So true.
@ulizinho Kuerten wouldn't challenge Nadal on clay. He was a beast in his prime vs his contempories, i don't see Kuerten even challenging Federer on clay, as good as he is, he had a 1 handed backhand that would have been vulnerable to Nadal no matter how good he is. Coria at his prime was superior to Kuerten on clay, though the performance didn't show. In 04-05, when Coria was prime, he couldn't even take on a rising Nadal. Nadal in his prime, which is 08, and 10 would crush both
Kuerten won 3 times RG ! Coria never came close to Kuerten, neither on clay nor others surfaces. Kuerten concluded one year as Nr.1 & almost the consecutive year. Guga is one of the few players who did not run around his backhand, even on high balls. In his first triumph year, he beat 3 Champs, Muster, Kafelnikov and Bruguera plus a strong Medvedev, later Fed. Nadal is the best on clay, but Guga could have been a threat for Fed in Paris and a strong adversary to Nadal.
And to think the Australian Open's courts used to be considered slow. This looks to be quicker than any of the Grandslam courts of today.
Also, watching this makes me realise how much potential Nalbandian had. He probably should have been Federer's main rival.
KidAinaVeyron 4 days ago
@KidAinaVeyron yeah this is a real hardcourt and AO was the slowest hardcourt slam. Look at the slick bounce. Today's courts are shameful. It has something to with today's balls as well. They changed it to bigger or heavier ones.
youziness 9 hours ago
i wish Federer's career coincided with the invention of HD tv
leisurelydinner 3 weeks ago
@leisurelydinner hahahahahahaha I wish the same :D
cortadew 2 weeks ago
Such a shame that a player with so much talent never even managed to make it to the final of a slam. Really a waste of talent...
tennistubetv 1 month ago 2
@tennistubetv Nalbandian made it to the 2002 Wimbledon Final against Lleyton, and won the year end Atp championship against Roger in 2005. But I agree with this much talent David should be a multiple Grand Slam winner, he just lacks consistency, mental toughness and he could lose a little weight. On his day.he is just as good as Roger..but particularly now that comes very rare.
MrYoumitube 1 month ago
@joopvanthoff which round is this??
kingofkings2364 2 months ago
@kingofkings2364 4th Round
joopvanthofff 2 months ago
@kingofkings2364 4ta round
AngelotePokemon 1 month ago
Nalbandian and Federer were seriously tanned back then. And the lighting in the AO was not as good as the rest of the tournaments on those years.
Edu2503 2 months ago
well considering your watching the highlights of the match your not going to see errors
Morlich209 2 months ago
@Morlich209 With those comments, they were referring to the fact that neither player waited on errors, not that they didn't make them. But they took the play into their control.
3timeMVPNash 1 month ago
holy shit nalbandian is so skinny
BasteReginald 2 months ago
Suddenly stop with the spam, jesus christ, go post your spam to the ATP world tour website instead of on a video for BRIEF comments.
T3hMightyIsBack 2 months ago
...simply aborted because she was deemed unfit for massive media-exposure...
What is certain is that tennis dads and moms basically all look like mafiosi and that behind the scenes, the ongoings must be QUITE DIFFERENT from the insipid facade we are shown today. These players are nothing but owned race-horses in some banksters stable at present.
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
...greatest and it's such an honour to be playing him and there's such mutual respect and bla bla bla? Is Nadal being ADVISED to say these things, is this part of his media training?
Look what happens to a player who steps out of line, like Wozniacki joking about a baby kangaroo scratching her at the AO 2011: she was made to apologize EXTENSIVELY, promise she'd NEVER lie again.
EVERY word is measured by the social controllers, and one wonders whether careers of people like Vaidisova were ...
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
...they're all voicing the same banalities, constantly thanking the sponsors, engaged in all the New World Order charities and politically-correct stances, it's just minddulling.
At least Roger has some proficiency in dealing with the media but even there all the lines have become predictable, and the constant laying on of this feelgood vibe of fair play between him and Nadal has become excruciatingly dull, especially from Nadal's side.
How many times has Nadal uttered Roger is the...
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
I always thought Nalbandian was perhaps THE most talented player, certainly about as good as Fed if not better. He just didn't put as much into it. His game is a joy to watch, all about massive talent, and watching a player like Djoko or Nadal is boring in comparison. They're all about massive effort, stamina and hyper-ambition.
Tennis was a lot more interesting 10 years ago. I think people like Murray, Djoko & even Nadal ruined the game. The personalities are becoming more & more bland,...
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious very talented yes, but as talented as federer imposible! federer´s talent is the greatest ever seen. Since a little kid he was expected to win a lot of grand slams, thats the kind of a monster he was.
And look at him, 16 grand slams.
contactafc10 2 months ago
By the way both players outfits here are amazing, as were most back then and the court looked wonderful in green.
MaratSafinVideos 2 months ago
The only difference between Federer and Nalbandian is really their work ethic. Fed worked very hard and achieved greatness, Nalby struggled to work and fell off the charts after 2007.
3timeMVPNash 3 months ago
@3timeMVPNash well I think what did Nalbandian in was he was injured alot after 07. The Same thing happened with Davydenko. His foot injury in. If you don't play regularly you will pay the price in tennis.
ox092 2 months ago
@ox092 The difference was that Nalbandian didn't look after his body whilst he was fit, it's no surprise that injuries came later in his career. It's a shame but he's always been somewhat of an enigma.
MaratSafinVideos 2 months ago
FUCK Nalbandian used to be SO HOT, his face is gorgeous
StewNWT 3 months ago
Nalbandian looks so light and agile back then!
lachlandalton 3 months ago
@lachlandalton not to mention incredibly hot before he grew out the floppy spanish hair
StewNWT 3 months ago
Wow look how fast the tennis was back then
aznboi1398 3 months ago
@aznboi1398 Yeah, now it's as slow as clay everywhere
Eternalover78 2 months ago
I miss this sort of federer's forehand technique :(
erosennin4203 4 months ago
@erosennin4203 are you kidding? he got raped here. Fed's forehand now is better than here
0OlIS5 4 months ago
@0OlIS5 technique-wise, federer's forehand here is a lot more efficient than it is now. Nowadays he uses his forehand a lot better and thus most people don't notice it.
erosennin4203 4 months ago
@erosennin4203 what in particular about it? i think he has a shorter take back and hits out in front more-now than in years prior.
0OlIS5 3 months ago
@0OlIS5 Yea he's obviously stronger now so his take back is a bit shorter...His grip has turned a lot more eastern these past few years so his contact point is actually a bit behind than it is here (but that doesn't really matter much). Although you won't find a lot of difference in the ball he produces, he uses less wrist here and more arm/torso movements. In doing so you avoid wrist injury (I used to use a lot of wrist and that screwed me over) and you use your stronger muscles (shoulder/abs)
erosennin4203 3 months ago
@0OlIS5 In utilising your stronger muscles (he uses them together beautifully here), not only does it make it easier for you, it saves energy. Right now, he's fit as anything so it actually doesn't matter that much, but I just miss the days when his forehand was a bit more 'textbook'.
erosennin4203 3 months ago
This match really comes down to how talented these two guys are, complete tennis, no errors. Much better than nowdays matches.
lokitkit 4 months ago 12
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nalbandian = best player to NOT win a grand slam
sagrocket 4 months ago
I love how Nalbandian goes for Federer's forehand a lot. Most other players would pussy out and hit it to his backhand constantly.
FunnyPlace1 4 months ago
nalbandian is a decent player, probably had what it takes to win a slam or be a contender to be world no.1
but to say nalbandian had the talent of federer or even the greatest talent of all time is seriously pushing it. he pretty much just had 2 good tournaments (both in 2007) in his entire career to show for.
foul01 5 months ago
@foul01 ur retarded, fuck u, i will defend my nalbandian til the death
HungarianCactus 4 months ago
@HungarianCactus
and this retard would love it if you actually could help nalbandian's career
sadly, he didnt grasp on to the chance he had in the early years and now its next to impossible he will even be offered the chance again
foul01 4 months ago
@foul01 he wont, but ur gay
HungarianCactus 4 months ago
@HungarianCactus
lemme put my argument in a form that matches your attention span and vocabulary
"go suck your own dick"
foul01 4 months ago
@foul01
Nalbandian had the talent to be one of the all time greats. More talented perhaps even than Federer.
dmh091 4 months ago
@dmh091
he's obviously talented
but he doesnt have the serve efficiency of roddick or federer
the devastating forehand of roger or rafa
the lightning fast footwork or federer, nadal, or davydenko,
the brilliant net play of rafter or mcenroe
he does, however, have a great backhand
but even that is undermined by his lack of mentality
so to say he's more talented than federer is ridiculous as far as i'm concerned
foul01 4 months ago
@foul01
Your concern is not accurate. Even this video shows Nalbandian's forehand is superior to Federer's. His footwork here is superior to Federer's. His touch and drop shot ability is on par with Federer (not enough net points).
I remember watching tennis back in 2001 and seeing Nalbandian's run at Wimbledon and thinking Nalbandian would be the next big thing. With the correct mentality he is superior to Federer.
dmh091 4 months ago
@dmh091
you're comparing nalbandian to a pre-slam-winning federer to prove that nalbandian is better? i'm not sure if you're kidding. if you seriously think nalbandian has a better forehand than federer then theres not much else to talk about
foul01 4 months ago
@foul01
My friend, in 2003 Federer was at his peak. He won Wimbledon and he won the Years End Master's series final against Agassi. The only thing that kept him from going further in the Aus Open and US Open was, guess who? David Nalbandian. He is one of the greatest wastes of talent in sports.
dmh091 4 months ago 3
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davd1986 4 months ago
@dmh091 Federer's peak wasn't in 2003, it was somewhere in 2004-2006. He was still struggling in majors up to Wimbledon 2003. Nalbandian miissed one too many opportunities to win a slam 2002-2007, after getting an injury in 2009, he was never the same. To say that Nalbandian is more talented than Federer is a bit of a stretch. BTW, his great Wimbledon run was in 2002, not 2001.
davd1986 4 months ago
@davd1986
Yes I know it was 2002, but I saw him starting in 2001.
Nalbandian had the talent to beat anyone, but not the mentality, which is very different. You know who he lost to after this match? Rainer Schuettler!
dmh091 4 months ago
@dmh091 Yeah he sure did, and I know he lost to Schuettle in the next round, but Schuettle had an exceptional tournament, even if he was a huge underdog and outsider. He played well, but he was also quite fortunate. In the 3rd round, he was supposed to Play Safin, but Safin pulled out before the match even started because of a wrist injury (which sidelined him for the majority of the year), then he played a lackluster/tired Nalbandian in the QF, then a very tired Roddick in the SF.
davd1986 4 months ago
@dmh091 nalbandian = best player to NOT win a grand slam
sagrocket 4 months ago 3
@foul01
Just check out the parts of the video, for example, when Nalbandian decides to pick up his game, like the last 2 minutes. Federer cannot do anything against him.
dmh091 4 months ago
@foul01 nalby's backhand is better
Fernandez218 4 months ago
omg nalbandian was once slim and fit lol....
azjmsxhn 5 months ago
nalbandian - biggest waste of talent in tennis history... This guy could have taken half of Fed's slams if he'd lived up to his tremendous potential.
dxuhuang 5 months ago
@dxuhuang i think hes the best talent in history...dont call him a waste faggot
HungarianCactus 4 months ago
wow nalbandian was skinny back then, i had totally forgot. wow. u kno, im a massive federer fan and i respect nalbos talent more than i respect nadals. the man should have been a modern legend. he is a sensation, or was.
radioxxflyer 5 months ago
There can be no doubt that Nalbandian genius is a source of humility for Federer genius.
HalloFusilli 6 months ago
This is real tennis. Not waiting on the error. Great match.
SoooBlue 6 months ago in playlist Tennis 22
lol Federer is trying to pressure Nalbandians backhand. I guess at the time Federer didn't know that Nalbandian has the best backhand in tennis history
Souren17 6 months ago
Nalbandian is younger and had had the better career up to that point. Now Federer is one of the greatest of all time and Nalbandian is one of the greatest disappointments.
u2546149 7 months ago
probably the best match nalbandian ever played,along with 2005 tmc final
TheDobardecko 7 months ago
Haha nalbandian looks black in this vid
iGo0ch 7 months ago
Federer at his best, and nalbandian also.
Robbe1987123 7 months ago
Federer at his best.
Robbe1987123 7 months ago
the probelm with federer, as the video shows, is that post-2007 he started to hit with too much spin with huge racquet swings, and completely neglected the flat forhands/backhands strokes......thats why he lost to nadal aussi 09,del potro us open 09, djokovic the last 2 hc slams......and he has that arrogance to try to out-hit through the opponents even when it doesn't work....all the fame and success really got him mentally.
makaveliguy 8 months ago
@makaveliguy
Don't you see the contradiction there? He hits with too much spin now, but at the same time tries to outhit people? If he was just trying to outhit everyone, he'd play with less spin.
The problem for Roger is that he has just gotten older. He's lost a step, so his defense isn't as good. It also hurts that his backhand is being targeted more because everyone knows how good his forehand is and how to exploit his backhand. It's hard to flatten out when everyones spinning to your BH.
SSky06 8 months ago
@SSky06
"hit too much spin" post-2007 i meant in general , not 100% of the time.....the key thing is, whenever roger play against the likes of nadal, nole, del potro or any other player who catch a superb day from the baseline- he tries to beat them from the baseline by retrieving weak balls, and have that "im gonna beat you in your own game" attitude. go look at his gm vs nole in 2010 us open and 2011 aussi open and see what im talking about......he plays with know tactic or game plan
makaveliguy 8 months ago
another example, is the del potro us open 09 match- he played flat slice & forhands the first set and owned del potro, had set point in the 2ed set, and then out of nowhere just started playing weak spiny balls to del potro forehand and basicaly warm his rythem- from then to the 5th he just blow federer of the court and won.
federer is a very poor player in therms of tactics sticking to the game plan.
makaveliguy 8 months ago
@makaveliguy he was tired and always play to entertain, do u know his 5th set winning percentage after 2009 is almost 0%? Everybody knows slice to del potro and he lose, with federer's strong slice he could have slice and dropshot, volley whole match. He did it in AO09 against delpo but i guess he wanted to entertain by trading ground strokes in US, got punished. He tried to play to opponent strength and realise he can't keep up with age.
youziness 7 months ago
@youziness
well, last time i checked the name of the game is wining. so if he just showed up to slam final to "entertain", he may as well tie up is shoes for good and call it career. he could have had 17 slams and non-calendar grand slam.....and make it even harder for nadal to chase his slam total. just pure clown this federer.
makaveliguy 7 months ago
@makaveliguy why not for the fans? At that time he got 15 and broke record, proven himself by winning french. He won the next one by playing to murray weakness to pay back the blunder. You get the feeling If he won that one against delpo he wouldn't have won the AO.
youziness 7 months ago
What is Nalbandian going to do today against roger? lol
michaeljackson5able 8 months ago
@michaeljackson5able the same thing joey chestnut did to kobayashi
wordlyfe 7 months ago
Nalbandian - beating Federer in the 4th round just to lose to Schuettler in the next..
as much as I love him he's such a headcase
89Pleasek 8 months ago
What's up with that shirt, Fed? Ugly. Much classier now. And man! A skinny nalbandian seems more effective. But I can get over his hair and him using Prince--so different!
samrocksmyshire 8 months ago
Roger is just as good now as he ever was. If this match had happened recently, people would attribute the loss to age. Nalbandian just played incredibly, plain and simple.
ZXcannon 8 months ago
@ZXcannon not same lol. He used to hit flat and with power. 1 bounce and ball travel to back of board. Now its always short and weak.
youziness 8 months ago
@youziness I think it's funny how people think Roger has or had the most powerful foreahand. Roger's game has always been to draw a short ball off his opponents and THEN fire a forehand. From the back of the court his forehand never possessed power like the Del Potros and Soderlings.
ZXcannon 8 months ago
@ZXcannon his fh do more damage than del potro and soderling, they are based on pure power without variation and their racquet headspeed is slower, means shots easier to read. Before he suddenly became good in 2003 he don't have strength, power nor stamina but have the shots and variety. I guess he improved in his power then to become no.1.
youziness 8 months ago
@youziness I couldn't agree more on the variety bit. His opponents just couldn't get rhythm, though now days he seems to have an ego and tries to hit through his opponents which pros like Djokovic and Murray love. He needs to go back to his old effective variety game if he wants to win another slam.
ZXcannon 8 months ago
Just noticed Nalby's changed his foot motion during his serve. Now he moves his right foot before hitting the ball. In this video he doesn't move it. Does anyone know when this change occured ?
Gouzo33 9 months ago
estaban al mismo nivel en este momento los dos, venian de los juniors de jugar muchos partidos juntos se conocian bien...quien iba a pensar que federer despegaria como un cohete a la luna y ganaria 16 grand slams a partir de esta derrota...y nalbandian 0
contactafc10 9 months ago
This is an epic.
fejuncor 9 months ago
is it just me or is this flat hitting so much more entertaining to watch than the angles, chips and heavy spin shots that we see in todays game, even though it may not be as good technically
JonnyMac1992 9 months ago 3
@JonnyMac1992 its u ,IDIOT
sagrocket 4 months ago
First off, I love nalby, and I wish he fulfilled his potential (sucks about the injuries and fitness.)
Secondly, DAMN he looks way better with short hair! Otherwise he looks like a f-in creeper pedo
maddcow12 9 months ago
Nalbandian skinny w/short hair?! Weird to see lol
MrJM215 9 months ago
Damn the courts were fucking fast back then
bjarktron 10 months ago
que jugador increible Nalbandian por DIos.....
gulugu 10 months ago
lol!!! I love his comment about Nalbandian:"he is... so good...."
I think that the best of Nalbandian is equal to the best of Federer...both are unstoppable
tomerico20 11 months ago
LMAO
DIANAROSS4EVER 1 year ago
@DIANAROSS4EVER
hey, u fuck fuck guy, eat my pubis!!!!
mjsupafly 1 year ago
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SkeksisBestSongEver 1 year ago
what a tempo, nalbandian did win against rog 2003 us open also , rogers worst enemy at the time
UltimateTopspin 1 year ago
did nalbandian do a one handed backhand at 8:58...?
misterlonely1446 1 year ago 2
theres something weird about this video
Morlich209 1 year ago
@Morlich209 That´s because it´s scary that a player who has achieved so little is maybe the biggest talent in the game!
SkeksisBestSongEver 1 year ago
super quolity tennis.
s08254gk 1 year ago
Banana Federer
TurdFergusonJunior 1 year ago
Nalbandian doesn't train hard enough and his motivation and mental fitness isn't really close to where it should be, to be an all time great. Right now, he is known for being an extremely gifted player with clean, crisp groundstrokes, excellent technique and great all court skills and anticipation, but in tennis you need the mental strength, probably more so than anything else. Nalbandian will be 29 when the Australian Open starts. I don't know if it's too late for him to win a slam, but.....
davd1986 1 year ago
@davd1986
i think you're giving nalbandian too much credit there, powerful and crisp groundies i agree
but his all court skill is questionable, more often than not, especially recently, his on-court tactics are horrible
and his anticipation isnt as great as most people would make of him, he has more troubles returning big servers than the current top 4 players (especially federer, now he is the king at returning big servers)
people just love him because his techniques in groundies are flawless
foul01 1 year ago
@foul01 In terms of passion and mental strength i think federer had lots of help from his current wife. Every successful man has a capable woman behind. She dosen't have physical beauty and is older but there must be reason federer wants to marry her. Nalbandian and Safin with same talent but dont have any prolonged passion, they disappear after their first injury, cant sustain more than 2 years playing at peak. I think the woman is the difference.
Baddieko 1 year ago
Very interesting, Nalbandian on the surface has as much talent as Federer does, but he lacks 2 very important ingredients
1: Consistency
2: A Strong Mind
Thats what separates them! A Shame because when Nalbandian is on I think he has no one to match him!
artikelmusic 1 year ago
@artikelmusic
and
3: Reflex, Nalbandian doesnt return big servers quite as well as Federer does so often
4: Variety, Nalbandian cannot adapt well when conditions are rough, thats why his two masters titles are indoors
foul01 1 year ago
@foul01 I will have it said that Nalbandian has the best agressive return of serve I ever saw. Federer gets more back, sliced that is. Yes outside conditions thats true, but thats in the mind I think...
artikelmusic 1 year ago
@artikelmusic
and
5: Game Plan: you hardly ever hear any commentator criticize federer's game plan against anyone, his tactics are more often than not spot on. nalbandian not as much, but i guess thats a combination of both Variety and Mind
foul01 1 year ago
@artikelmusic
that said, there are actually not that many similarities between the two, except for the fact that both are among the cleanest and smoothest hitters in today's tennis
i do think people are giving nalbandian too much credit. federer is far superior and nalbandian only really has two masters and one master cup to support his claim
foul01 1 year ago
@foul01 that's such bs! lol nalbandian has one of the best return games out there. I would love for you to cite one match where nalby's return game was an issue. Nalbandian's biggest problems were always injuries, lack of fitness, and his mental game. It's never been his return game.
maddcow12 9 months ago
@maddcow12
i'm not talking about return games, i'm strictly talking about returning big serves
nalbandian has more trouble returning fast serves from the likes of safin and roddick than federer
no one returns big serves quite like federer (maybe with the exception of agassi)
foul01 9 months ago
@foul01 Agassi is a bit overrated when it comes to being called 'the greatest return of all time,' IMO. I think he is definitely one of the best, but he was reaction returner, someone who stabbed, or lunged. That's why he had so many return winners, but if you hit the corners, he is in trouble, that's why he had trouble returning Federer's serve when they played. Federer can hit his spots. At the 04 AUS, Safin, another guy who could hit all spots had 33 aces, 0 DF+80 winners against AA.
davd1986 8 months ago
@foul01 huh... I can't think of many times I've seen Nalbandian struggle against big serves... you'd have to name specific matches. Even against the likes of Roddick and Safin I've seen him keep up a great return game. On a different point, I think Agassi's return game is overrated (I know, ppl will attack me here). Agassi was great at stepping in and attacking on the return, but by playing so close he'd get aced more often than other players.
maddcow12 8 months ago
David Nalbandian--most untapped potential of any player
Monsterenergy791 1 year ago
forgotten just how good Federer was back in his prime...he was at a completely different level back in those days compared to now...
daveroo92 1 year ago
forgotten just how good federer was back in his prime...
daveroo92 1 year ago
One thing I notice is back in his "salad days" Federer moved to his right like a demon. Starting somewhere in 2007 that deteriorated..
manco82 1 year ago
You watch some of these old clips of Nalbandian, and at times it seems like he was simply unplayable.
AnimeIntroStyles4 1 year ago
Nalbandian is right up there when he's playing his best, too bad his fitness now is shit so he cant play defense at all really
fedex19912000 1 year ago
Well, sad thing about David is he has no champion´s mind.
Its not about talent, hes so gifted, but about mind, heart and will.
He has the game, but thats not enough to be a champ.
The only difference between him and Agassi, cos they had such a similar game, is that Andre is a real champ.
Lucky Swiss he has not had real champs to handle.
cammpinno 1 year ago
@cammpinno Is it just me or does nalbanians forehand seem to be better in this match than now?
fedex19912000 1 year ago
@fedex19912000 seems to me its much better than now. Even Roddicks in 03 was much better than now.
cammpinno 1 year ago
"nalbandian is more talented and better than federer at his best when he is at his best"
seriously, on what basis are people saying these things? the 5 set victory he had when federer was visibly injured in master cup 2007? or the two victories in year end 2007 when federer is already becoming more vulnerable? nalby probably was at his best then, but who can say so was federer?
nalbandian is amazing when he's on, i'll give him that
but better than federer is just laughable
foul01 1 year ago
ahhh...back in the days when federer didnt have a personal stylist and endless supplies of sponsored clothings
foul01 1 year ago
Nalbandian toys with Fed in so many points here that it´s scary and allmost sick! Scary because it´s Federer, and sick because it´s not a player know for achieving much other than toying with the best players!
SkeksisBestSongEver 1 year ago
i like how in the old days you couldn't tell what the score was if you just tuned in.
did i say that i liked it? I meant that i fucking hated it.
MIMIC8801 1 year ago
Nalbandian is better than federer when he is at his best (against the federer at his best too). But mentally, he trumbles. Hope he can win at least one slam to be the best argentinian ever.
Luchon20082010 1 year ago
Jesus! Nalbandian is almost unrecognizable he's so thin here. BTW, that has to be Fed's most ugliest shirt ever!
TorgeistLLN 1 year ago
Nalbandian is the best player to never win a slam....
tennis21000 1 year ago
@tennis21000 What about Henman
DanimalLawlz 1 year ago
@DanimalLawlz no. nalbandian is a far better talent. one of the cleanest ball strikers every to play the game.
cj397 1 year ago
@cj397 Probz. Henman had 6 SF GS appearances, Nalby 4 and a final. Nalby did win a few more important tournaments, but Henman was still a handsome player, and probably would've been a far more successful player if serve and volley was still the status quo in the late 90's early 2000's. DelPo will probably outshine Nalby as Argentina's greatest post '00 talent in the long run though
DanimalLawlz 1 year ago
@DanimalLawlz Yes, that's a good point of view. i was just speaking in terms of talent capability. nalbandian to me is in the top 3 greatest players of the 00's, simply because of his talent.
cj397 1 year ago
The times when nobody, that is nobody, wanted to run into Nalbandian in the Slams.
89Pleasek 1 year ago
Nalby can play soooo sick sometimes, it's unreal :-)
Monsterenergy791 1 year ago
4th round.......
pablotjob 1 year ago
it is so beautiful how they both strike the ball, nalbandian especially
kinetik44 1 year ago
thats the backhand we like to see from old rog.
i wish you had included at least one shot of the score and/or match stats!
thegreatNEb 1 year ago 10
@thegreatNEb pause at 6:13 and you'll see Nalbandian is up two sets to one. At 7:11, Federer is serving for the fourth set at 5-1, 30-15. At 7:36 it's two sets all and Federer is serving for one all.
A description would have been cool.
Ou8y2k2 1 year ago
@thegreatNEb he does 4:26 :)
HungarianCactus 4 months ago
well the game has changed so much
people think nalbanian isnt as good or federer isnt as good
but the truth is todays game has so much spin and pop on the ball its a really hard ball to get back
but back then alot of the shots were hit right in the strike zone of the opponent so its a bit easier to hit great winners thats why nadal gives people so much problems especially federer and the high backhands
wtfjjij 1 year ago
what happened to him ?
Such a talent, besides Roger and Rios and Safin and Sampras I have not seen many others.
ulizinho 1 year ago 5
@ulizinho lol you put RIOS in the same conversation as fed, sampras, and safin?! you're a joke.
gabe228 6 months ago
@gabe228
why don´t you just disapprove of my statement, saying that it was joke, instead of writing, that I am a joke?
I have clearly written about talent, not achievements. There are many players with a terrific talent but never get through because of bad luck, injuries or bad habits. Rios became Nr1 & was indeed highly talented, whether as talented as Guga, Fed, Pete, Rafa, Safin etc. is of course disputable. He suffered injuries and behaved unprofessionaly. Same with Nalbandian. Peace.
ulizinho 6 months ago
@ulizinho bro, i know u're talking about talent, and i know who Rios is, and no, i don't see the talent that is comparable to those class. I see that from Nalbandian though.
gabe228 6 months ago
@gabe228
I dont see, why you dont see it....just watch a summary of Rios triumph over Agassi in Key Biscayne, which made him Nr 1. He had a superb control and you never could predict where the shots were going. He could take the balls very early, especially with his backhand. And he was smaller then Chang. And a real badass.
OK, Fed and Pete are still beyond.
ulizinho 6 months ago
@gabe228
by the way: I wonder how things would have gone, if Kuerten, Safin and this super Nalbandian would not have suffered so many injuries. Guga on clay could have been a threat for Nadal. Nalbandian was Fed´s biggest opponent and Safin one of the few who beat Fed in a GS when he was in his prime.
ulizinho 6 months ago
@ulizinho Nalbandian from 05-06 was always a threat every time he played Nadal or Federer, but yes he was injured, not much can be said, HOWEVER, Nadal had been marred by injury for a good period of time,bounced back and got several slams, thus it is also legitimate to say that "staying power, and recovery" is part of talent, if Nalbandian as talented as he is struggles so much to bounce back everytime, that's a bad quality as well.
gabe228 6 months ago
@gabe228
You are right. As the speed has increased in tennis, the physical, athletic part becomes more important. A very talented player like Becker with bad footwork could not have the same success nowadays. Federer´s success is also due to his unbelievable presence without big injuries in the majors. I remember when Sampras lost vs Agassi in Melbourne and complained, that Andre only won, because he himself got tired. Andre replied: Fitness is part of the game. So true.
ulizinho 6 months ago
@ulizinho Kuerten wouldn't challenge Nadal on clay. He was a beast in his prime vs his contempories, i don't see Kuerten even challenging Federer on clay, as good as he is, he had a 1 handed backhand that would have been vulnerable to Nadal no matter how good he is. Coria at his prime was superior to Kuerten on clay, though the performance didn't show. In 04-05, when Coria was prime, he couldn't even take on a rising Nadal. Nadal in his prime, which is 08, and 10 would crush both
gabe228 6 months ago
@gabe228
Kuerten won 3 times RG ! Coria never came close to Kuerten, neither on clay nor others surfaces. Kuerten concluded one year as Nr.1 & almost the consecutive year. Guga is one of the few players who did not run around his backhand, even on high balls. In his first triumph year, he beat 3 Champs, Muster, Kafelnikov and Bruguera plus a strong Medvedev, later Fed. Nadal is the best on clay, but Guga could have been a threat for Fed in Paris and a strong adversary to Nadal.
ulizinho 6 months ago
i think nalbandian could be the worlds number one!
PERUVIANTRAVELER 2 years ago
2003
federerbestclass 2 years ago