Che sprint Beppe! E vedere che c'è chi si domanda se Boyer poteva vincere se Lemonde non avesse tirato. Ma che c'entra? Guardare il vuoto che fa Saronni negli ultimi 200 metri chiude l'argomento per sempre.
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a legendary sprint also named , as everybody knows so well , " Goodwood rifle-shot " !
Boyer would have never beat such an oustanding & skilled sprinter as Saronni in any case, even if Lemond had stayed in the pack . Everybody knowing little cycling can look ta Saronni's unbeatable sprint and realize by himself that Saronni and the whole Italy's team didn't really need Lemond's bad move to get a victory that they had tactically planned and they been working for throughout the entire race
so you criticize me for saying that saronni's sprint was amazing. then you write about him, "a legendary sprint", "outstanding and skilled sprinter", "saronni's unbeatable sprint".
do you know that you kinda contradicted yourself. do you understand that "legendary sprint" and "amazing sprint" kinda mean the same thing??????
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@kvmusic better you solve your paranoia problems , that look to be quite
hard , before you'll go on the debate.
Sorry if you misunderstood my comment
( no matter if you did that intentioanlly ) and its inner content that is rational & logic and absolutely not contradict. in any part, but I'm not guilty of that ....!
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Got it now, my funny clueless wasp guy ??!! .....;-)
Sean Kelly lived a few kms from your home ?? Months ago you said in ur profile you were from Belgium ( hard to trust, looking at the embarrassing ignorance about cyclism you've been showing up till now DD ! ) , now you've turned urself in american from New York ( which I trust 100% , looking also at your childish mental attitude ) : so what home , the home of a pathetic wimpy troll ?? D
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you made a fool of yourself in pretending to debate over the 1st , you should not do the same talking about the 2nd in such a crappy and ridiculous way asking help for naive, pointless arguments !!
I wrote " outstanding & skilled sprinter " , " legendary sprint " and " Saronni's unbeatable sprint " in different comments , the 1st is referred to the cyclist , the other 2 are meant about his sprint at Goodwood race
and they're absolutely not contradict. since they say the same thing
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and they are not opposite to each other . I don't know how you can see even a single point of contraddiction in there , unless you have more problems in your association of ideas abilities than those hard you have in your cycling knowledge ( which honestly is less than zero, not to say farcical and ludicrous ) !!
Take this tip : better you stick to your american sport , cycling , like other certain subjects , are out of your comprehesion, are out of any average american 's comprehension !!
mi chiamate un wasp stupido e vi ho detto che ho vissuto vicino alla casa di Kelly. Sono BELGA. il Belgio, il paese di la bicicletta, (con l'Italia). Conosco la bicicletta quanto voi. è d'accordo di essere in disaccordo ma cessare di insultarmi. è ridicolo ed acerbo. Arrivederci.
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@kvmusic sorry x you, but the more you post ur stupid bizarre comments, the more you show you're belgian
only in your troll's funny dreams !!
A real belgian is supposed to know cycling , he would have never posted so asinine comments full of so senseless, bizarre and ridiculous statements only to show how clueless he is of cycling !!
And who cares of Kelly, mediocre rider famous x being a pathetic sore looser and a ridiculous crying moaner and x being caught positive at doping tests ??
Lemond and Kelly had very weak team support in most of the World championships they rode- surely if you know about cycling as you say, you can see that.
As we say.. show me the evidence...moaned like an old lady? Just to say Saronni did no work isn't moaning just stating the truth (as you know from what you said).
Surely you are happy enough about Italian cycling to acknowledge that some people who speak English can actually ride a bike too!!
Wow Busseto!! Didn't realise someone would get so upset by someone else's opinion. You say I know nothing about cycling..Well I was at the race at Goodwood, have 2 hours on tape and as I said Saronni didn't work..he didn't need to as the Italian team is traditionally so strong.
Would I expect him to be on the front before the end..NO! The team strength was to keep the race together till the end so Saronni could jump away. Just as he did. So I think I know a little bit about cycling.
i never heard kelly complain. i always saw him as a hard worker, old-style racer. i was a big fan of his. (he lived in belgium where i'm from). saronni's sprint was amazing but it is true that he was helped by lemond. lemond should never have led the pack like that when boyer (his teammate) was ahead. that was a bad move.
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kvmusic , I can hardly believe you're really belgian , 'cos you posted quite a bizarre comment : everybody who in those years used to watch cycling or was interested in it heard kelly complaining ' and spellin ridiculous bs 'cos he was such a pathetic whiner, so you probably dont know that much of this sport .
And everyone who knows a bit of cycling doesn't call Saronni's sprint just amazing, it was the most impressive & nicest sprint ever on that finish type ( medium level sloping )
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@kvmusic First of all is Busseto with 2 S and 1 T , at least learn to copy a 7letters easy word .....
I'm not interested in any of ur laughable bs and naive statements , you clearly are totally clueless of cycling just like the average wasp people, even more when it comes to the great cycling of 80s ( Epons armstrong and the whole circus of american doped cheaters & clowns of 2000s had yet to come ) and when it comes to one of all times geatest sprinters, Saronni.
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No need to repeat what I said : Saronni was the best sprinter in the world those year , he was simply unbeatable on that type of arrival ( soft climb ) , not my fault if you have no idea at all of the subject and all you can do is pretending to spell naive bs and to post asinine comments only to show how clueless you are ( typical wasp attitude, must say ....) .
Read and learn : wikipedia is rubbish , anglosaxon minded rubbish , its the opposite of impartiality
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so I suggest to you to ignore such a useless and crappy source to get urself informed when it comes to some kinda subjects like sports or arts or even history ( sometimes ) .
Hinault was a great, great,great climber but a mediocre sprinter , Saronni lost from aged Maertens ( who had been a great sprinter on himself when he was younger ) due to his teammate Moser who refused to cooperate in the team's work in order to drive the Italian sprinter in a favourable position to start
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the final sprint at final 300 meters . Maertens was extremely smart , intuitive and clever in putting himself at Saronni's back and then in coming off to sprint at last 150 meters, when Saronni had yet spent all his forces
since he had to start his sprint too earlier , at 400 meters left.
You can check it all watching back the video about that 1981 race in Prague : if Saronni had been assisted from the team , he would have destroyed everyone, like it happened in 1982, as you can see....!
@arnoldinerith ehm ...to tell the truth I don't think anyone who has some kinda good knowledge over cycling ( and the average Italian guy definitely has it ) may be upset by someone else's opinion when the opinion itself is said upon good ground , which honestly doesn't seem about you reading such a ridiculous and bizarre statement as " would I expect him to be on the front before the end " !! Such a stupid statement may only be spelled by someone who's completely clueless of cycling
because it's just the opposite if we wanna talk of cycling in a decent way : Saronni , like any sprinter else in da world, was supposed to stay well covered & inactive into the race group running a properly managed race in the correct way, the way any rider & team race since cyclism was created more than 110 years ago ...!
Sorry but I've got to tell that anybody saying such a silly statement like yours one , shows not to know much of this sport ....!! Are you sure you're not a umb troll ?
@Trulyloyale I don't think you understand English very well (but much better than i would understand Italian!) What I am saying is that Saronni did not need to be on the front because the Italian team did the chasing for him so he was strong for the sprint. If you watch the video from the start of the race you will see that Saronni is never on the front until the very end when he goes past Boyer. Anyway, you seem to be saying just the same thing as I have done so no need to be rude is there?
@Trulyloyale Thanks for the reply. I think it is great that a race that is nearly 30 years old can still get this much interest. Saronni's finish just takes my breath away!!
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as no team mates supported them, so the complains & the nonsenses by Kelly about Saronni not working like other riders were naive, bizarre,ridiculous, farcical & surreal !!
And yes it's absolutely true that Kelly cried & moaned like a naughty old lady , no wonder since everyone remembers so well that he acted like a pathetic winer so many times after every defeat : funny how he pretended outclass champs from
greatest countries in cycling had to race in the way most comfortable to him ;-)
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arnoldinerith have you any idea of what
you're talking about ? This is cycling and you look not to know anything about , which is typical from spoken English countries who have no long term tradition
and no great knowledge about !
Saronni of course didn't work, he was there as a sprinter and made what a sprinter is supposed to do : he did his job
due to the team's strategy !
And every sprinter does the same, no matter how strong is his team : some sprinters won races alone
non so se rende l'idea,Saronni in volata al 3% di salita,quindi non selettiva,ha dato 3" a tipi come Lemond e Kelly ! E'un peccato che a soli 26 anni gli venne nausea del ciclismo e corse solo per gli sponsor,poteva fare altri 5-7 anni ad alto livello,era piu giovane di Moser...
I'm a huge Lemond fan but I still think he screwed up in this one. I think Saronni would have won anyway (that sprint was amazing and perfectly timed) Lemond should have stayed in his wheel and tried to win in the sprint. A bit of inexperience back in '82 on his part, still a very exciting finish.
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Boyer would have won ag. Saronni , who those years was the greatest sprinter of the world & a nice climber , only in his dreams ....! ;-)
Look at his unbelievable sprint up on the hill ( a tough arrival ) : maybe the nicest arrival in the history of World Championships .
As for whiner Kelly being so pathetically sore looser and spellin out his kid's idiocies , they got totally ignored that time and they still look pharcical & ridiculous nowadays, so ....!
Boyer always bitched about this, claiming he would have won "had it not been for LeMond 'chasing' him down....."
Ya, right.
It was so Saronni's day. Lemond had nothing to do with it. The Italians were beyond perfectly prepared, worked like dogs to put the designated winner within range and Saronni more than lit the fuse. Look at him make Boyer look as though he is standing still. Great win and congrats to LeMond.
Whiner Kelly - as usual - bitched, claimed that Saronni didn't work.
May I ask why people always seem really hostile to Boyer when they discuss this incident? I agree that he probably wouldn't have won this race anyway, but the kind of language people use in saying so suggests a kind of antipathy to Boyer that goes beyond this particular case. You might think that Boyer would command a certain respect as the first American ever to ride the Tour, but you'd be wrong. What am I missing here? Is it the "Jacques" thing?
Why? Simple. Boyer endlessly complained, claimed, "LeMond chased him down and lead out Saronni..." Again, no way. Even Boyer's wife went after LeMond, physically hit him after the race. I was there...
Take LeMond out of the equation....., pretend he was not in the race. Boyer took off way too soon. He slit his own throat. Saronni was THE winner that day. He saw to it via superb effort and the Italian team, who were unreal - no surprise. When he lit the fuse and he did, the video sez it all.
You're right about Saronni being the strongest that day, and you're possibly right that Boyer overreacted, but I still think Lemond was kind of a skunk to do what he did. If Hinault had ever chased Lemond down like that in the final meters of a major classic we would never hear the end of it!
people were hostile to Boyer because he was different. i think he was vegetarian if not vegan. he would eat nuts when the others would eat meat. he had his own philosophy. hard to be different from the pack wherever you go. he experienced it first hand. about the race, he probably would not have won it but lemond clearly helped saronni. golden rule is, you do not chase down a teammate. we'll never know what would have happened if lemond had played by the rule.
@equinoxranch Had Lemond not closed the gap, or held it at arm's reach, would Saronni have done it himself and won? Did Saronni have loyal countrymen who'd have done the work Lemond did? I'm impartial btw.
Peccato che oggi si sa, che come TUTTI in quegli anni ed ancora oggi, ma allora senza pudori e controlli, i ciclisti erano FATTI A MERDA, per cui la fucilata è solo l'effetto migliore su Saronni che sugli altri...peccato...
SARONNI UNA LEGGENDA !!!
Zeus6spillo 1 month ago
Un colpo di fucile e va' a vincere. Grande Saronni.
vasaroal 5 months ago
Colnago Messico rossa se non erro. Saronni, che classe ragazzi!
demedici73 6 months ago
Che sprint Beppe! E vedere che c'è chi si domanda se Boyer poteva vincere se Lemonde non avesse tirato. Ma che c'entra? Guardare il vuoto che fa Saronni negli ultimi 200 metri chiude l'argomento per sempre.
sigurros1takk 7 months ago
i like this video but i can't understand the wuy of this stupid song....please!!!!
guiros68 1 year ago
Greg Lemond aveva lanciato un suo gregario all'attacco era sicuro di vincere, ma Saronni in arrivi così era imbattibile.
robyciornie 1 year ago
Vorrei vedere il mondiale del 1983 quello di Lemond a cui ho assistito dal vivo.
59Souvenir 1 year ago
Way to blow it, Greg!!!
tmiller9909 1 year ago
grande. grazie for uploading!
lamargna 1 year ago
un telecronista leggendario!!!!
iguarni 1 year ago
@iguarni Si che non ci diceva come stavano le cose
59Souvenir 1 year ago
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" you'll go on with the debate " correction in there .
Busseto 1 year ago
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a legendary sprint also named , as everybody knows so well , " Goodwood rifle-shot " !
Boyer would have never beat such an oustanding & skilled sprinter as Saronni in any case, even if Lemond had stayed in the pack . Everybody knowing little cycling can look ta Saronni's unbeatable sprint and realize by himself that Saronni and the whole Italy's team didn't really need Lemond's bad move to get a victory that they had tactically planned and they been working for throughout the entire race
Busseto 2 years ago
bussetto,
so you criticize me for saying that saronni's sprint was amazing. then you write about him, "a legendary sprint", "outstanding and skilled sprinter", "saronni's unbeatable sprint".
do you know that you kinda contradicted yourself. do you understand that "legendary sprint" and "amazing sprint" kinda mean the same thing??????
are we talking semantic or cycling here?
kvmusic 2 years ago
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@kvmusic better you solve your paranoia problems , that look to be quite
hard , before you'll go on the debate.
Sorry if you misunderstood my comment
( no matter if you did that intentioanlly ) and its inner content that is rational & logic and absolutely not contradict. in any part, but I'm not guilty of that ....!
Busseto 1 year ago
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Got it now, my funny clueless wasp guy ??!! .....;-)
Sean Kelly lived a few kms from your home ?? Months ago you said in ur profile you were from Belgium ( hard to trust, looking at the embarrassing ignorance about cyclism you've been showing up till now DD ! ) , now you've turned urself in american from New York ( which I trust 100% , looking also at your childish mental attitude ) : so what home , the home of a pathetic wimpy troll ?? D
And I'm talking of cycling not of semantic
Busseto 1 year ago
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you made a fool of yourself in pretending to debate over the 1st , you should not do the same talking about the 2nd in such a crappy and ridiculous way asking help for naive, pointless arguments !!
I wrote " outstanding & skilled sprinter " , " legendary sprint " and " Saronni's unbeatable sprint " in different comments , the 1st is referred to the cyclist , the other 2 are meant about his sprint at Goodwood race
and they're absolutely not contradict. since they say the same thing
Busseto 1 year ago
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and they are not opposite to each other . I don't know how you can see even a single point of contraddiction in there , unless you have more problems in your association of ideas abilities than those hard you have in your cycling knowledge ( which honestly is less than zero, not to say farcical and ludicrous ) !!
Take this tip : better you stick to your american sport , cycling , like other certain subjects , are out of your comprehesion, are out of any average american 's comprehension !!
Busseto 1 year ago
@Busseto
il mio amico busseto è molto contrariato.
mi chiamate un wasp stupido e vi ho detto che ho vissuto vicino alla casa di Kelly. Sono BELGA. il Belgio, il paese di la bicicletta, (con l'Italia). Conosco la bicicletta quanto voi. è d'accordo di essere in disaccordo ma cessare di insultarmi. è ridicolo ed acerbo. Arrivederci.
kvmusic 1 year ago
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@kvmusic sorry x you, but the more you post ur stupid bizarre comments, the more you show you're belgian
only in your troll's funny dreams !!
A real belgian is supposed to know cycling , he would have never posted so asinine comments full of so senseless, bizarre and ridiculous statements only to show how clueless he is of cycling !!
And who cares of Kelly, mediocre rider famous x being a pathetic sore looser and a ridiculous crying moaner and x being caught positive at doping tests ??
Busseto 1 year ago
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Lemond and Kelly had very weak team support in most of the World championships they rode- surely if you know about cycling as you say, you can see that.
As we say.. show me the evidence...moaned like an old lady? Just to say Saronni did no work isn't moaning just stating the truth (as you know from what you said).
Surely you are happy enough about Italian cycling to acknowledge that some people who speak English can actually ride a bike too!!
Sprinting...mmmm Mark Cavendish. Say no more.
arnoldinerith 2 years ago 5
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arnoldinerith 2 years ago
Wow Busseto!! Didn't realise someone would get so upset by someone else's opinion. You say I know nothing about cycling..Well I was at the race at Goodwood, have 2 hours on tape and as I said Saronni didn't work..he didn't need to as the Italian team is traditionally so strong.
Would I expect him to be on the front before the end..NO! The team strength was to keep the race together till the end so Saronni could jump away. Just as he did. So I think I know a little bit about cycling.
arnoldinerith 2 years ago 5
Busseto,
i never heard kelly complain. i always saw him as a hard worker, old-style racer. i was a big fan of his. (he lived in belgium where i'm from). saronni's sprint was amazing but it is true that he was helped by lemond. lemond should never have led the pack like that when boyer (his teammate) was ahead. that was a bad move.
kvmusic 2 years ago
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kvmusic , I can hardly believe you're really belgian , 'cos you posted quite a bizarre comment : everybody who in those years used to watch cycling or was interested in it heard kelly complaining ' and spellin ridiculous bs 'cos he was such a pathetic whiner, so you probably dont know that much of this sport .
And everyone who knows a bit of cycling doesn't call Saronni's sprint just amazing, it was the most impressive & nicest sprint ever on that finish type ( medium level sloping )
Busseto 2 years ago
busetto
believe what you want. kelly lived just a few km from my house and i know more about cycling than most people who post on these boards.
yes saronni would have most likely won without lemond leading the pack. BUT it was a bad move from lemond. you don't chase a teammate like that.
and yes, saronni's sprint was amazing.
another amazing sprint, flat this time, was the year before when maertens beat saronni and hinault in prague.
kvmusic 2 years ago
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@kvmusic First of all is Busseto with 2 S and 1 T , at least learn to copy a 7letters easy word .....
I'm not interested in any of ur laughable bs and naive statements , you clearly are totally clueless of cycling just like the average wasp people, even more when it comes to the great cycling of 80s ( Epons armstrong and the whole circus of american doped cheaters & clowns of 2000s had yet to come ) and when it comes to one of all times geatest sprinters, Saronni.
Busseto 1 year ago
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No need to repeat what I said : Saronni was the best sprinter in the world those year , he was simply unbeatable on that type of arrival ( soft climb ) , not my fault if you have no idea at all of the subject and all you can do is pretending to spell naive bs and to post asinine comments only to show how clueless you are ( typical wasp attitude, must say ....) .
Read and learn : wikipedia is rubbish , anglosaxon minded rubbish , its the opposite of impartiality
and report ability
Busseto 1 year ago
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so I suggest to you to ignore such a useless and crappy source to get urself informed when it comes to some kinda subjects like sports or arts or even history ( sometimes ) .
Hinault was a great, great,great climber but a mediocre sprinter , Saronni lost from aged Maertens ( who had been a great sprinter on himself when he was younger ) due to his teammate Moser who refused to cooperate in the team's work in order to drive the Italian sprinter in a favourable position to start
Busseto 1 year ago
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the final sprint at final 300 meters . Maertens was extremely smart , intuitive and clever in putting himself at Saronni's back and then in coming off to sprint at last 150 meters, when Saronni had yet spent all his forces
since he had to start his sprint too earlier , at 400 meters left.
You can check it all watching back the video about that 1981 race in Prague : if Saronni had been assisted from the team , he would have destroyed everyone, like it happened in 1982, as you can see....!
Busseto 1 year ago
@arnoldinerith ehm ...to tell the truth I don't think anyone who has some kinda good knowledge over cycling ( and the average Italian guy definitely has it ) may be upset by someone else's opinion when the opinion itself is said upon good ground , which honestly doesn't seem about you reading such a ridiculous and bizarre statement as " would I expect him to be on the front before the end " !! Such a stupid statement may only be spelled by someone who's completely clueless of cycling
Trulyloyale 1 year ago
because it's just the opposite if we wanna talk of cycling in a decent way : Saronni , like any sprinter else in da world, was supposed to stay well covered & inactive into the race group running a properly managed race in the correct way, the way any rider & team race since cyclism was created more than 110 years ago ...!
Sorry but I've got to tell that anybody saying such a silly statement like yours one , shows not to know much of this sport ....!! Are you sure you're not a umb troll ?
Trulyloyale 1 year ago
@Trulyloyale I don't think you understand English very well (but much better than i would understand Italian!) What I am saying is that Saronni did not need to be on the front because the Italian team did the chasing for him so he was strong for the sprint. If you watch the video from the start of the race you will see that Saronni is never on the front until the very end when he goes past Boyer. Anyway, you seem to be saying just the same thing as I have done so no need to be rude is there?
arnoldinerith 1 year ago
@arnoldinerith ah ok , got it , it's quite clear that I misunderstood your upper comment since I read it too quckly
and not wi necessary attention. I just made an uncorrect comment which looks also senseless rite now .....!!!!
I apologize for that .
Trulyloyale 1 year ago
@Trulyloyale Thanks for the reply. I think it is great that a race that is nearly 30 years old can still get this much interest. Saronni's finish just takes my breath away!!
arnoldinerith 1 year ago
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arnoldinerith trust who knows cycling since 40 years and a little more than you do.
This one by Saronni is probably the nicest and most impressive sprint ever in World Championships history , simply fantastic !
Busseto 2 years ago
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ACIMinMusic 2 years ago
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as no team mates supported them, so the complains & the nonsenses by Kelly about Saronni not working like other riders were naive, bizarre,ridiculous, farcical & surreal !!
And yes it's absolutely true that Kelly cried & moaned like a naughty old lady , no wonder since everyone remembers so well that he acted like a pathetic winer so many times after every defeat : funny how he pretended outclass champs from
greatest countries in cycling had to race in the way most comfortable to him ;-)
Busseto 2 years ago
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arnoldinerith have you any idea of what
you're talking about ? This is cycling and you look not to know anything about , which is typical from spoken English countries who have no long term tradition
and no great knowledge about !
Saronni of course didn't work, he was there as a sprinter and made what a sprinter is supposed to do : he did his job
due to the team's strategy !
And every sprinter does the same, no matter how strong is his team : some sprinters won races alone
Busseto 2 years ago
Boyer jumped away early cos he knew he couldn't win the sprint. Lemond chased him down - it's clear for anyone to see if you watch the whole race.
Saronni didn't work (he sat in the bunch all day - that's the strength of a big team.
I don't remember Kelly moaning - not sure where you got those ideas from. What exactly did he say?
But what a finish - Saronni went past like he was shot out of a cannon!
arnoldinerith 2 years ago
The shooting of Goodwood!!!
ricimuoo 2 years ago
non so se rende l'idea,Saronni in volata al 3% di salita,quindi non selettiva,ha dato 3" a tipi come Lemond e Kelly ! E'un peccato che a soli 26 anni gli venne nausea del ciclismo e corse solo per gli sponsor,poteva fare altri 5-7 anni ad alto livello,era piu giovane di Moser...
Atlantikonrad 2 years ago
ce ne fossero altri nauseati dal mondo del ciclismo forse cambierebbe qualcosa
roma43roma 2 years ago
I'm a huge Lemond fan but I still think he screwed up in this one. I think Saronni would have won anyway (that sprint was amazing and perfectly timed) Lemond should have stayed in his wheel and tried to win in the sprint. A bit of inexperience back in '82 on his part, still a very exciting finish.
Joseminario 2 years ago 4
la fucilata di Goodwood mitico Adriano e mitico anno 1982
maremmaimpelagata 2 years ago
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Boyer would have won ag. Saronni , who those years was the greatest sprinter of the world & a nice climber , only in his dreams ....! ;-)
Look at his unbelievable sprint up on the hill ( a tough arrival ) : maybe the nicest arrival in the history of World Championships .
As for whiner Kelly being so pathetically sore looser and spellin out his kid's idiocies , they got totally ignored that time and they still look pharcical & ridiculous nowadays, so ....!
Busseto 2 years ago
What else di sarroni do...nothing much
WELLBRAN 2 years ago
questa è LA FUCILATA DI GOODWOOD
scalatorino 2 years ago
Boyer always bitched about this, claiming he would have won "had it not been for LeMond 'chasing' him down....."
Ya, right.
It was so Saronni's day. Lemond had nothing to do with it. The Italians were beyond perfectly prepared, worked like dogs to put the designated winner within range and Saronni more than lit the fuse. Look at him make Boyer look as though he is standing still. Great win and congrats to LeMond.
Whiner Kelly - as usual - bitched, claimed that Saronni didn't work.
equinoxranch 2 years ago
That may be so, but you don't chase down a teammate, ever. It looks jitty.
fatmaggi 2 years ago 5
May I ask why people always seem really hostile to Boyer when they discuss this incident? I agree that he probably wouldn't have won this race anyway, but the kind of language people use in saying so suggests a kind of antipathy to Boyer that goes beyond this particular case. You might think that Boyer would command a certain respect as the first American ever to ride the Tour, but you'd be wrong. What am I missing here? Is it the "Jacques" thing?
sjl62 2 years ago 5
Why? Simple. Boyer endlessly complained, claimed, "LeMond chased him down and lead out Saronni..." Again, no way. Even Boyer's wife went after LeMond, physically hit him after the race. I was there...
Take LeMond out of the equation....., pretend he was not in the race. Boyer took off way too soon. He slit his own throat. Saronni was THE winner that day. He saw to it via superb effort and the Italian team, who were unreal - no surprise. When he lit the fuse and he did, the video sez it all.
equinoxranch 2 years ago
You're right about Saronni being the strongest that day, and you're possibly right that Boyer overreacted, but I still think Lemond was kind of a skunk to do what he did. If Hinault had ever chased Lemond down like that in the final meters of a major classic we would never hear the end of it!
sjl62 2 years ago 3
people were hostile to Boyer because he was different. i think he was vegetarian if not vegan. he would eat nuts when the others would eat meat. he had his own philosophy. hard to be different from the pack wherever you go. he experienced it first hand. about the race, he probably would not have won it but lemond clearly helped saronni. golden rule is, you do not chase down a teammate. we'll never know what would have happened if lemond had played by the rule.
kvmusic 2 years ago 2
@equinoxranch Had Lemond not closed the gap, or held it at arm's reach, would Saronni have done it himself and won? Did Saronni have loyal countrymen who'd have done the work Lemond did? I'm impartial btw.
epicsunday 2 years ago 2
Fucilata di Goodwood , mai soprannome fu più azzeccato per un gesto atletico , incredibile quanto distacco crei in 200 mt.
nff87 2 years ago
Peccato che oggi si sa, che come TUTTI in quegli anni ed ancora oggi, ma allora senza pudori e controlli, i ciclisti erano FATTI A MERDA, per cui la fucilata è solo l'effetto migliore su Saronni che sugli altri...peccato...
rdarmin 2 years ago
saronni campione del mundo!
grazie mille
chickasmith 2 years ago
Che numero di Saronni!
srsrfa 2 years ago
Grazie Beppe
enricoghezzi 2 years ago
i was in the crowd- never seen anyone ride up a hill so fast!
bikesi 2 years ago
Lemond chased Boyer down, even though they were teammates, because he didn't like him and didn't want him to be World Champion.
sjl62 2 years ago 3
Un gesto atletico fantastico, uno sprint da leggenda del ciclismo .
Giuseppe Saronni campionde del mondo e classe italiana .
Trulyloyale 2 years ago
sono un tifosissimo di giuseppe saronni ' e stato un grande campione sarai sempre nella mia mente ciao da stefano da trapani
sparacastagne 3 years ago
Bellisimo
pintothai 3 years ago