it was setup and framed to take revenge of Padua village where 64 b sf soldiers died by bdr in 1998.It was a 2 bird killing by on throw before hang the killers of sheikh mujib..
Bangladesh er shob politicians der aai vabe i kukur, biral er moto rasta ghathe mere fela uchit! Tahole maybe Bangladesh er gorib manush gulo ektu valo thakte parbe. Aar koto din aai vabe tupi porie Bangladesh er niriho manush gulo k desher nikkrishto politicians naamdhari kukur biral gulo shoshon korbe??? All these kind of politicians r just simply BUSTARD, nothing else.
@ furat : listen u dumbo, amra tomader desh ta toyri kraisi amader kono interest ba mataha betha nai tomader internal problemer, sei jonno boli India nam ta neowar agee ektu chinta bhabna kore tarpore neo !!!!
@MegaAniket123 tomader onek mathabetha ache but tomra prokash koro na.You india taken the revenge with hand to hand of Hasina government where u r BSF got massacre in Padua village.in 1998.your many agent working behind in Bangladesh..
ARE THESE ARMY OFFICERS--DO THEY HAVE ANY SEVICE RULES--THEY WERE COMMANDING OFFICERS--THEY FAILED IN DISCHARGING THEIR DUTIES--PERSON WHO FAILED TO PROTECT THEMSELVES--CAN THEY PROTECT US.
THESE OFFICERS MISBEHAVING WITH PM--IF ARMY ACTION TAKEN--THOUSANDS WOULD HAVE DIED AND THESE MEN WANTED THAT.
BDR mutiny totaly done by the distressed banladeshi jowan, Bangladesh army is such a organization they are never or ever take over any loss, listen their voice how they are crying like coward. Do you remain that they will achieve result in favour iour country? They are doing job for UN mission, rationing , alloted plot, flat, this shame is all of us.
How dare are the army officer of Bangladesh? They thing they are all all in Bangladesh. The BDR Mutiny was the consequences of Army's suppression over the BDR. There is no need of Army in Bangladesh. We should abolish them.
Hasina is toooo busy with her fathers murder and her family fuck the rest of the country , where is all the men in Bangladesh , what happen to them , their balls drop , fucking hate my country for these two ladies rulling it .
The army ltd. co. of bangladesh has rightly served for their deeds since 1972. To them all the countrymen r bloody civilians! Their torture to DU teachers and students after 1/11. DG shakil was known to be a looter and all the army officers of this counrty are more interested for money than professionalism. They grabbed more civilian posts for honey and butter. They destroyed all the civil instutions of this country. They must learn from this. changing name and uniform is a eyewash.
what r u talking about? In bangladesh since long one killing another if get chance.you saw well how police droiove over demonstrators during 1-11.the problem is only one place and that is bengalees discriminating bengalees.What is chnaged rwally?ritish discriminated bengalees,pakisdtanis discriminated us, now bengalees discriminating bengalis,high low rank ,bdr militery,militery civil.any change really?
It weren't over pay dispute, these monkeys were used in conspiracy to weaken defenses of Bangladesh by killing it's best. I wish dad had let me keep my bangladeshi citizenship. I would love to join the bangladesh military, this is a time when the Mother Nation needs her sons and daughters to answer her call. We need to rid of these relics that have occupied the leadership like some devine destiny. Bangladesh is a young country run by people who have out lived their time.
shobai amader bhai, kaukei mara problem er solution na!!!
amar khalato bhai ke haraisi ami BDR mutiny te, tao ami BDR der maira felar pokkhe nai !!!!!! eikhane porishkar bairer hat, hoy India or Pakistan!!
catch those bustards and hit them back .... amrao parbo hit korte oder ke, dhamchapa deyar theke fira mara uchit. nijeder maira ki hove bhai apnara bolen !!!
Banning You Tube will not causeany harm to develop Digital Bangladesh, You Tube should be blocked! bcz it is taking the youth in wrong path due to sexual contents! all sexual content website should be blocked in the country.
I mourn for the incident happened months ago but to be honest I was glad to know that the bloody army was taught a lesson. They always had interests in politics; they killed Seik Mujib, killed Zia & never stopped enying- ruling the contry.
Bangladesh liberation from Pakistan was a great acheivement of Bengali people. Now the remaining part of the great Bengali people in west (bengal province india) should also unite with their real brothers and make the great Bengal tiger nation which is destined to be the largest nation of south asia!! SAID BANGABONDHU SHIEKH MUJEEBURREHMON BEFORE MARTYRED BY INDIANS ! LONG LIVE GREATER BANGLADESH! (best kept secret found in a in a copy of unspoken speech of Bangabondhu)
It is never too late to look inward and find our own flaws than act like being innocent victims, who have failed to grow up for past 38 years. People have been murdered right and left and some part of the population seem to enjoy the murderous culture of the country because nothing else is exciting. Ask why we deserve respect from other countries? Have we done anything that we can be proud of? Just one example, please? Politicians/Military/BDR, all have failed us miserably!
"What lasting impact the conflict will have on a still fragile civilian government depends on whether, and how swiftly, Mrs. Hasinas administration can assuage the grievances of the paramilitary border forces without upsetting the military leadership." New York Times.
Pakistan syndrome? But the elephant in the room was not created yesterday. Both major parties have mismanaged the country so much in the past that it is hard to see how the PM would deal with the problem when so much in stake?
bhaire!!!! apnara karo motamot posondo na hoile galagali koren keno!? ar, motamot de-ar shomoi-i ba galagali koren keno!? bujhen je shob manush ei rokom extreme hole kibhabe system breakdown kore? BBC-r reader comments gula porlei bujha jai difference ta ki, kobe je manush ke shomman korte shikhbo amra!!!!!!
i was born here but ama dual citizen so fk u , and about education ama mechanical engineer on Tool and Die maker i was born in 1985 so ya man i am ballin byaaatch
you express yourself like a nigger. You have not shown anything that we can call intelligent. Nada! You swear great and that tells us where you come from. Uncivilized at best!
Yeah, tell us why you think Hasina is a terrorist? Tell us why you think army's living condition is poor in comparison to other Bangladeshi citizens? A 5th grader should be able to elaborate his or her opinions. Would you? I dare you or get lost!
madmonsoon tumi bhodai magi , the people who protected our country when u r mom was fukin u r dad and giving birth to u ? u feel me . these army officers live in horrible condition hav u ever went to a army cantoment i did I have lots of families in army who r majors and high rankin officers. i don respect any government who cannot protect its own people and kills its own people.
hey idiot, you can't even make cogent argument let alone know your country or the army. By the way, I am a male and I can take care of coward like you and your sisters. Let me guess, you are another uneducated Bangladeshi seeking asylum in Canada on false ground?
Army owns Bangladesh, you moron! What word you do not understand?
hello MR. EDUCATED madmonsoon... i think hasina has given u a job which we call in Bangla, DALAL.... why do u feel like she is the 1 man army... and what she does is goo for the country...?? i cant help my self to tell u a sentence in bangla... "dalali korar r jayga paw na...??" 99% of the politicians r corrupted bastards... they can destroy the country just for money... i believe u r 1 of their dalal... and watch ur language... dont try to b too smart...
Very simple! She is your elected PM! If you want to follow the rules of democracy, you need to put up with her rule. She has the mandate from the people! If she commits any crime, you will have the chance to move her from that position. I am not sure where you get that 99% number. Please provide the reference for us. I am only ventilating my opinions about current situation. You have all the rights to disagree with me. Instead of personal attacks, please put forward your thinkings. Be civil...
Bangladesh is a failed state run by and for the criminal mafia.
Democracy in Bangladesh is a farce. A joke. All these politicians, including their families and supporters, need to be exterminated like the cockroaches they are.
Thanks for a true picture of the events most important in our hiostoryt. Thanks to PM not to burgain with army and very much thanks to Army officers for not taking chance of launching MARSHALL LAW. It would be very serious for our nations pride and democracy. Dr. SAIFUL .
it's really sorrowful to bring politics ( AL , BNP stuffz) here when the conspiracy is against our nation and democracy . In the audio there are many unabashed statements uttered by some army officers, which is beyond the scope of discussion within 500 characters.
@ osman2256 and msn025
I don't hav time and wish to discuss with stupid blind peoples over here .. PM of 150 million ppl insulted.. she is ur PM too ... shame on u and the ppl having brain at knees.
kot, the monster was created with the killing of Bongobhandu. Gen. Zia met same fate as he came to the scene with blood in his hand. Ershad got away alive in time because Washington stopped supporting all he petty corrupt dictators at that time. You got two women leaders. who basically are not very intelligent but there because of their family names. The idiotic Jamat still thinks it can revive the nostalgic feelings of East Pakistan and all problems be solved. What left is a powerful army!
Shini, please ignore that idiot ass Tmir, he is a self-proclaimed rajakar, who thinks Bangladeshis are not Muslims and not doing enough for his fatherland Pakistan let alone for Osama. His grandfather salimullah wanted to make Bangladesh a pure Muslim country but could not finish that divine job because Bangladeshis chose Bongobhandu as their leader. What he says is not what he means. He was only mocking people to watch his pathetic videos. A disgusting human turd!
mad, the guy has deep hatred for Bangladeshis for being independent and showing very little regard for Pak. Since Bangladesh is not pure enough Muslim, he would rather see it merged with India. He is probably thinking about the creation of mythical ummah? I am sure he is also thinking about Pakistan being merged with Iran and other middle eastern countries , if that would save Pak from loosing Balochistan, NWFP and Swat valley. Another idiot on the loose, I suppose?
Brother drac, it is high time to move forward with things that are important for Bangladesh. Bangladesh needs a super stable government, who should be serving the country irrespectively whether you are a poor farmer or an army general.There have been too many mistakes in the past, people have been murdered and Bangladesh has been used as personal property of certain people. Bangladesh needs a strong civilian intelligence agency comparable to CIA so that nobody dares to torpedo its progress.
least to say that you are naive. A new stronger intell agency would not survive a day without being politicized or militarized. The elephant in the house is ARMY and only it can dictate where Bangladesh should be going. The political leadership is weak and inept to push for any real changes that country needs. I hope I am wrong, my friend.
drac, I hope I am not beating a dead horse? It is difficult to guess what had been going on between the government and army since the mutiny. The anger has been ventilated adequately as we know now but do we really know what's been cooking at this point. Doing nothing is not an option for the government since the same thing can happen again with so many actors are still on the loose. Hasina's pro-India policy is may be the real thorn for many religious zealots, who would love to see her fail?
@madmonsoon, I feel that PegasusAside has been trying to give his comments the same way we Bangladeshis do sometime, being emotional and angry with the traditional corrupt politics. Can't we be communal rather than being personal?
@PegasusAside, you are welcome here as a part of our community, I guess it is altogether a different matter if I agree with you or not. But, I agree that looking at the history of our traditional politics, most of them are crooks and deserve severe judgment...
mdniaz, I did praise peg for raising some critical issues but I am not sure BDR mutiny is somehow connected to the newly elected members being crooks. I am sorry I do not see the connections. BDR and army feud has been brewing for long time and I am surprised nobody could see this coming. I would start with intelligence agency to find out whether people who are working for the agency are truly competent. Fire whoever needs to be fired! This mutiny is not politicians fault.
madmonsoon, thank you. When I understand what you are saying, I do have some thoughts you might consider useful. The incident regarding the BDR mutiny is not completely isolated from my point of view. As a country, all the sub-systems (education, security etc.) are supposed to run under well defined frameworks. The sub-systems themselves are responsible for running the frameworks, as well as suggestions regarding any necessary modifications. Also, these sub-systems are not isolated as well....
Agree, the country is not run by competent people. They might not be crooks but they do not have the vision or competence to run the country. The question remains, who will take Bangladesh to the next stage. Bangladeshi people are in general good people and they do deserve better government. BDR and army clash is just one symptom among many others that yet to surface. If we start treating new government as incompetent, I am not sure what would be the alternative? Any Mandela around?
Agree, they should be given more time before being criticized badly. But, I guess we should not be too soft as well (forgiveness is a virtue, but reality hurts.....). As Bangladeshis, we must carry on our own little contributions to the well beings of our motherland....
I think the current leadership has learned from its past mistakes. If anybody gets caught with wrongdoing, he or she will be fired instantly. That is how the new government should work from now and on. Since Bangladeshis got the taste of voting, they too will keep the government's feet on the fire. At this point, I do not have any good reason to criticize the new government. PM has handled the army meeting very well and that should give her enough confidence to strengthen her position furter.
Many of the frameworks overlap; e.g. monitoring, finance, enforcement etc. Now, who is responsible for the start of the developments of these frameworks? When many other entities are responsible, it is the politicians and the parliament who need to decide first and start working with these. Frameworks regarding our BDR, Army were/are supposed to be implemented the same way. As isolated as these entities are, they must fall under some frameworks and the politicians have failed to ensure that.
We have heard that these problems between BDR and Army have been brewing over for quite a long time (e.g. living condition, salary, ration). Why? Because there is no proper framework in place to ensure that everything is being done the way it should be. Now, doesn't that make the politicians responsible directly? Will it be wrong to blame the corrupt politicians for not ensuring that a system has been developed? Specially when they are the formal ombudsman of the country? Everything overlaps...
@aapelbuet bhai r koyek din opekha koren army govt er control e chole asbene karon govt tar mama,khalu,chacha,fufu,nana,nani,dada,dadi bla bla bla.................................. bosache.
very unfortunate to hear such indisciplined approach of so called Disciplined Army. The Army must come under govt control. They are alredy out of control!! Very alarming signal for the country ...
The upper class in Bangladesh isn't that big. People know each other. I know many law makers from both parties. They are crooks.
Does it matter that some law makers *may* not be crooks. No! You have to look at what they are doing as a whole; e.g. clawing back their duty free cars.
Can we not talk about Bangladesh because other countries are corrupt. No! We have to advance Bangladesh.
Should we not talk about this gov as it is new? No! Challenge them now on all crimes!
Yes, you can discuss about Bangladesh as much as you want. What I do not like is your lack of civility. If you are an EU citizen of Bangladeshi origin, that makes you a different animal. But I would not generalize any group of people as crooks or criminals. That is outrageous and wrong. If you had any basic EU education, you should know better because I too was educated in Europe. Bangladesh is nascent democracy. It needs to crawl before it can start walking. Continued...
You do not advance a country by calling names. You should come down from your high horses and provide the solutions for how things can be improved in Bagladesh. I am sure Bangladeshi people will appreciate your constructive inputs. As I have seen so far from your posts, You got nothing of that kind. Nada!
Crazy, you got some crazy ideas but the are interesting and should be considered by investigative body. I think BDR people probably got fed up for not being treated as par with army. If you listen carefully witnesses, you would notice the BDR savagery is beyond the problem of simple grudge. BDR people simply become insane. They were not thinking about their future at all. I do not think India or Pakistan involved here.
A lot of Hindu owned land that was grabbed in 1971 still hasnt been handed back. One of my Hindu friends is still trying to get land which was grabbed by a gangster in 1971
We can all get along well if we try to understand each other personally rather than in the frame work that politicians set out for us.
I know many Hindus in Bangladesh. They are totally discriminated against. Some of my Hindu friends are Doctors at medical hospitals. When they go for promotion they find it tough to get advancement. Even when they request leave (they need government permission to leave the country being government officers) a Hindu name ensures that any request will be cut short.
vis-a-vie Bangladesh-India relations, I believe that if the ordinary people of India realised how Bangladesh, and other neighbours of India, is treated in trade they would want to India to act more fairly. SAARC allows Bangladesh to send many categories of goods to India which Bangladesh *doesn't* produce, but very few it does produce. When I put this to the Indian Ambassador he just said that Bangladesh didn't negotiate well.
The army were not ready for the emergency when it cropped up. We saw the same thing in Mumbai when it took (12 hours?) for the commandos to turn up.
The army did a fantastic job running the country for the past couple of years. They cleaned up a lot of corruption and generally made life easier.
Now we have another government of thieves. I can understand the army speaking in this way to Sheikh Hasina. They know that she is essentially leading a gang of crooks. Emotions were also running high.
You have some good points but I would not generalize all parliamentary member as being crooks. That is not a fair comment. If you tell me about your country of origin, I will be able name plenty of crooks in your country. Yes, crooks are every where. I am sure you are aware of Enron, Worlcom and current wall st meltdown from mortgage-backed security's scandal. Please refrain from generalizing Bangladeshis. This government is only few months old and you already know that they are all crooks?
I'm a European living in Bangladesh. I love the people here. I'm sure I'd feel the same way about Indian people if I lived in India.
On this occasion I think Sheikh Hasina did a fantastic job. She stopped the army killing thousands of people and creating terrible publicity for Bangladesh. The army had Quad anti-aircraft canons trained on the camp. This would have been a massacre. As it is, this news will slip into the background and be forgotten quickly..
There are multiple things going on. Bangladesh is suffering because of what is going on in Pakistan. Pakistan and ISI now have intelligence assets within BDR. They are trying to turn Bangladesh into a strategic asset against India because right now, Balochistan is on it's way to becoming independent and Sindh may declare independence as well. Northern Areas of Kashmir wants to return to India and get out of turmoil in Pak.
Bhai Mainul Islam Nasim....> Ami apner vedio gulu suneci. Kintu apni agulu keno add korecen janina. Apni ki mone koren na ata desher bipokke onnai. Ata desher matai narikel banger moto. Desher image nosto hocce na? Ai information gulu desher image nosto korbe, ami mone kori. Tai ami mone kori apni ai gulu withdrow korben. Amra jani deshe politics amader blood-a mishe gece. So samne aro onek amader kosto pete hobe. Ami bideshe taki, kintu amai bideshira jigesh kore ata ki hocce tuder deshe...
Smile, you are wrong about Mr. Islam. This is truly great that we know what's going on between government and military. Actually, it is not too bad that army officers could ventilate their anger. Mr. Islam is true patriot and he should be praised for his courage. If you want to put everything under the rug, that would be temporary gain for certain people but eventually things will explode. Would you prefer that? Transparency is the best way to go!
You need treatment for your jaundiced mentality. Why should India try to make Bangladesh weak? Had Bangladesh been economically and otherwise stronger, India could have got extended market. Developed B'desh implies greater benefit to India. Moreover, is not Bangladesh already too weak to compare with Indian economic strength, military might, intellectual ability, standard of research, advancement in pol system, cultural expression, social aptitude in accepting diversity, performance in sport?
Could you mention any area where India feels threaten for B'desh's advancement? Could you give an example which proves that India plans to make Bangladesh weak? On the contrary, India can give many such examples where B'desh is a party to the conspiracy against India. 10 trucks arms is one such recent example. Khaleda Zia openly declares secessionist of North_East as freedom fighter. Many important B'desh leaders speak like this everyday. Indian leaders hardly refer the name of B'desh.
Indian leaders- regional not national- need to refer B'desh only with reference to smuggling. Everybody knows that it is a menace. Even one army officer of B'desh said that one of the causes of BDR mutiny could have been the attempt of army to minimize border smuggling. Who smuggles Phencydil from India? You should know that P'cydil is not a banned drug -openly available in any drug store in India. Anybody can get it if he wants. Why it creates problem in B'desh we dont understand.
India always wants to extend his helping hands in spite of ungratefulness of B'desh. We gave you Tinbigha corridor against the interest of local people. Do you know that two volunteers of anti-corridor movement died in police firing? In spite of that Govt. allowed corridor to B'desh. India allowed export-tariff free 80 lakh piece of garments. Now B'desh demands that not only the export-tariff but also the VAT should not be imposed. How funny? VAT is domestic duty and under state jurisdiction.
I think there is nothing wrong with the meeting. It is very likely that all the army officers were quite furious and frustrated because they could not even try saving their officers. We cannot blame them. Also, PM Sheikh Hasina realized their emotions and responded accordingly. I think even if it was Khaleda Zia or someone else there in the chair of PM they would have been in the same condition.
I could not listen to it carefully but I want to ask a question... the video leaked ... ok.... so why the Goverment trying to ban Youtube in bangladesh? Only because so that we cannot see the video?
Any country of SE Asia can no longer afford to dissipate their energy in these wasteful internal discords. There are important issues at stake like economic recession, competition in export market, energy crisis, unemployment, global warming and building better future for generations to come.
Bangladesh Army officers shout PM to DOR DOR I want to ask Army officer did you show respect to PM.HOW PPL GIV YOU RESPECT if u don't respect toother.larn more,
jaffer bhai is absolutely right. does not matter how much emotion they have inside you against the PM, as trained military personnel they can never do that!. what's the difference between them and BDR then?!
@aftab7000: Nobody here is complaining that it was done by either India or Pakistan. Rather, some Indians and Pakistanis have been showing off their muscles saying Bangladesh is measurably inferior to their countries. I guess, anybody who is a patriot and honest will try to defend against these lies with facts.....read through the thread and decide for yourself....
Some of the comment here are really silly to say the least.
Either it is done by ISI & Pakistan or it is RAW & India !!!!!!
Not that I am ruling anything out, but surely most of the perpetrators and victims were Bangladeshis!
When will we stop blaming others and take responsibility for our own actions?
There have been too much useless bloodshed in the country and especially in the army for decades! We have to clean the mess at home before peeking into others!
Aftab, apni ektu pore dekhen ager comments-gula je kivabe ei indians ar pakistanis gula bd nie baaje kotha boltese, tao jodi shotti hoito. ei jinish-gula to onno desher manush-o pore, ultimately image problem toiri kore bairer investment divert korbe, politically, economically, culturally-o dominate korbe. desher jonne fight to ek sector-e na, onek onek sector-e...........
The Bangladesh Army is not only a disgrace to the nation, but also to the entire world. See how these so called "Officers" speaks to their Head of State. Can you imagine that an US Army Officer speak to the President in that manner, no matter how severe the tragedy is. These BD Army Officers need to behave like an "Officer and a Gentleman" no matter what the situation is.
I would give great credit to the Honorable Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina for being "calm and balanced"....
I agree with the comment below that the rogue BD Army Officers who secretly taped these conversations are in violation of army code of conduct. Yes, they are "the enemy of the State of Bangladesh"
Who record this?? there is only 2 civilian one shk. Hasina and o mutia chowdhowry this is also breaking the Army law who ever do this find out he might got involvement killing all this brilliants army officer , who ever put this on internet they dont want civil elected govt , find out those people take them to the court marshal together with the 25 and 26 feb.09 Killer.
indians helped because b'deshi started pouring into our borders . Anyways, you really do not see any country to involve in charity due you? bottomline is, our forces did laid down their lives to save your ass.. mukti bahini was a stick and stones army till RAW handed them real guns.... our navy did stand up to the US nukes
'they only think about their own future' - jeez, whose future should we think about then? Is it our fault that India is progressing while all its neighbors are imploding ?!
Bad things happen everywhere, regardless in Bangladesh or in India. But, if a society is tolerant enough is judged by the history, numbers, figures compared to the other civilized societies. Indians are claiming to be a tolerant society, let's have a look at the following figures. As the text is too big, I will have to split it into 3 separate comments:
this is really very sad, i stayed in dhaka for 10yrs and its my 2nd home,i just left dhaka 4yrs ago since i didnt have a choice to choose,my company sent me to another place but my heart still belongs to bangladesh.
OMG !! Hasina needs to step down !! she is a shameless loser !!! She could have easily saved the children and women !! we blamed Pakistan for raping our women !!! .. but she re-made history ... she did that to the military b.c they killed her family .. how do u think someone who lost her family in the hands of the Bangladeshi military ..will love Bangladesh
Listen, in our country, Hindus are given equal, I say EQUAL, rights and that's the truth. It's 100% better compared to how it is in India. In India, Muslims are deprived of their rights. They don't get into proper positions in their jobs. The Hindus are given top priority in everything. It's religious discrimination there. That's the TRUTH ABOUT INDIA. How do I know? I have relatives in India, and yes, they are Indians.
In Bangladesh, everyone is treated EQUALLY according to their talents, not their skin, nor their religion, nor their beliefs. How do I know? We have some Hindu neighbours in Bangladesh and they seem very much untroubled, FYI. Moreover, the decrease in the number of Hindus in Bangladesh is due to the fact that most of them went to India during '71 and settled there and some of them swapped with Muslims of West Bengal eariler after '47.
sorry !!! its not "USA" that chief of commander will be a prime minster !!!! its not work like that !! it should but it doesn't ... everybody afraid of our Army !!! its very sad!!
Shumon, I am only replying one of the Indian guys. When I never think about this Hindu-Muslim problems, they are mentioning that this is what we do. So, I must tell them that we don't, infact, they do.......right?
Even if you speak of Hindu-Muslims problems, show me a serious case of a single riot in the East Pakistan or Bangladesh history. Abd, consult, on the other hand, the rioting history in present day political India, including W. Bengal. Then tell me what the facts say and what your opinion about this, with facts......
Very interesting. I suppose you do not know history to the extent a primary student should know. Have you heard Noakhali riot in 1946 and what barbarism muslims did at that time? Gandhiji spent 46 days on peace mission at Noakhali. His secretary informed on 12/11/46 that "Even in several places women are taken at night and returned in the morning". Situation was same in Kumilla. What happened after the election of 2001? Why Taslima wrote Lajja? What is the % of hindu population in B'desh now?
@banglaekushe: Again you are showing a double face giving us one sided (dishonest intent) information. Noakhali riot (Oct 10, 46) began as a reaction of the Calcutta riot (Sep 17, 46). Casualties:
Calcutta: 4000 (official)
Noakhali: 200 (official)
A person who hides information intentionally is a LIAR.....
mdniaz, the riot you are mentioning is known as "Great Calcutta Killing". It was initiated by Suhrawardy, the then prime minister of Bengal, in support of "Direct Action" call given by Jinah (Muslim League). One enquiry commission was constituted but the report was not published by Suhrawardy. All national news papers and govt. officials said that Suhrawardy himself directed police and other forces to continue killing from the control room of Lalbazar. Where you get 200 casualties?
I do not want to hide any fact. I do not understand how a civilized man can defend Noakhali atrocities as it was a reaction of Calcutta. It implies that you support "Even in several places women are taken at night and returned in the morning". Horrifying. Do you know that Noakhali riot was infamious for "moral extermination". Uncountable Hindu women were looted and forcefully married. Hindu men were forced to eat cow meat.
Wwhen riot started in Bihar - Nehru, Rajendraprasad and all Congress leaders rushed to Bihar, stayed there and stopped riot. Which Muslim leader went to Noakhali? Just for the partition they wanted riot which then justified their demand. Muslim League had to have evidences that two communities can not live with peace and harmony. By Cacutta and Noakhali riot ML leader Jinnah wanted to make it certain that there would be no hesitation even from Congress to accept partition.
If you need some more facts and want not to hide anything read J B Kripalani's Autobiography. He spent several months in Noakhali at that time, volunteered to establish peace with his wife. He was sent there by Gandhiji before his visit. Kripalani was the Congress president at that time.
banglaekushe, I was not born at that time, so, it is not my personal opinion that it was an aftermath of Calcutta riot. Go to Wikipedia, see for yourself:
Direct_Action_Day
I am not defending a riot, all killings are against humanity. And, why are you still talking about Hindu leaders and Muslim leaders? If you really want to know the hearts of the people, you must rise above the games of the politicians and media. Bangladesh is not Pakistan, don't mix it up and don't make it up....
Again, when India declares itself as a secular country, it was a Hindu and Buddhist country even few hundred years ago. From your own arguments, then you are not part of that ancient culture anymore, right? When the sub-continent had been divided, the names had changed of course, but, who gave you the authority to decide about the cultural heritage of the people? Politicians??!!! My request, don't be partial, please speak the whole truth. Truth about yourself, and if you may, truth about others.
I think that you missed the point of drishyapat. India was never a hindu or budhist country. Indian tradition was tolerence- Hindu, Budhist, Jains, Sikhs, Baisnavs India adore Christans, Jews, Muslim, Sufis etc etc. They contributed lot to form Indian tradition of tolerence- no doubt. But only a section of Muslims - not jews or christans- who demand seperate land and breach the century long tradition of tolerence. Who left India for this can not claim to be part of that Indian tradition.
I understand this is what drishyapat wants to say. Sen's book as suggested by Drishyapat may be good one to understand tradition of Indian subcontinent.
Who says so? India was never declared officially a Hindu or Budhist country. Even it was not a Muslim country during Mughal period. India traditionally welcome each and every faith in his land. Thus it was quite natural that India would declare itself secular at the time of partition, although Muslims preferred to delare Pakistan as theocratic state. Our present customs, democratic practices, tolerence give us the authority to declare that we inherit the Indian cultural heritage. How u could ?
Guys, I have to tell you one thing first, that is, we don't hate Indians. Unfortunately, our lifestyle is governed by the media in a big way and there are always some people everywhere in these two countries who are easy to brainwash. But, yes, we do have grievances just as you do.; and of course, there are reasons for that.
Talking about tolerances, if you dig a little deep, you will find that this part of the sub-continent (Bangladesh) has the best track record of peace and inter-religious tolerance in the whole sub-continent and this is supported by figures and fact of many years (not only after 1947 for thousands of years). But, as the facts are easily available after 47, you might look for this yourself. We are a ethnic group (Bangladesh, W. Bengal) who that don't posses the drive to invade other groups......
Secondly, again you are talking about a theory that is partial. In all aspects of political science, there are two words with two different definitions....Nationality and Ethnicity. A nationality cannot change a person's Ethnicity or the vise verse, but they can overlap. You guys are from the West Bengal, I presume, and Indians of course. But when you are a Bengali, you will always be a Bengali even if the whole turns into a single country. Political division doesn't determine your ethnicity.
it was setup and framed to take revenge of Padua village where 64 b sf soldiers died by bdr in 1998.It was a 2 bird killing by on throw before hang the killers of sheikh mujib..
MegaBangla123 1 month ago
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Bangladesh er shob politicians der aai vabe i kukur, biral er moto rasta ghathe mere fela uchit! Tahole maybe Bangladesh er gorib manush gulo ektu valo thakte parbe. Aar koto din aai vabe tupi porie Bangladesh er niriho manush gulo k desher nikkrishto politicians naamdhari kukur biral gulo shoshon korbe??? All these kind of politicians r just simply BUSTARD, nothing else.
ybaksh 6 months ago
hasina should be... fireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
kayoumbd 7 months ago
@ furat : listen u dumbo, amra tomader desh ta toyri kraisi amader kono interest ba mataha betha nai tomader internal problemer, sei jonno boli India nam ta neowar agee ektu chinta bhabna kore tarpore neo !!!!
MegaAniket123 8 months ago in playlist Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina meets Bangladesh Army officers
@MegaAniket123 tomader onek mathabetha ache but tomra prokash koro na.You india taken the revenge with hand to hand of Hasina government where u r BSF got massacre in Padua village.in 1998.your many agent working behind in Bangladesh..
MegaBangla123 1 month ago
The AL are a bunch of illiterate assholes. So is the BNP, but not as much the AL.
The army doesn't contribute much to the country, see the size of the army officer's bellies? Yeah that pretty much sums them up.
But boy, those AL people are a classic. A truly rotten one.
I hope our country prospers in the end, we have endured so many hardships. We are enduring them now, and somehow I feel there is more to come.
God sees and knows all.
Zartan1357 10 months ago
YOUTUBE WAS BENNED FOR A FEW DAYS AFTER THIS INCIDENT...ANY GUESS WHY?
HELLOWORLDNZ2010 1 year ago
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nurburgring2 1 year ago
HASINA IS A MURDERER. SHE WILL PAY FOR THIS!
okinawa8282 1 year ago
ARE THESE ARMY OFFICERS--DO THEY HAVE ANY SEVICE RULES--THEY WERE COMMANDING OFFICERS--THEY FAILED IN DISCHARGING THEIR DUTIES--PERSON WHO FAILED TO PROTECT THEMSELVES--CAN THEY PROTECT US.
THESE OFFICERS MISBEHAVING WITH PM--IF ARMY ACTION TAKEN--THOUSANDS WOULD HAVE DIED AND THESE MEN WANTED THAT.
THESE UNRULY OFFICERS ARE NOT FIT TO BE OFFICER--
farid1948 1 year ago
Has there been any trial for True Patriots like Nawab Sirajuddoula and Tipu Sultan? its centuries old histories of Traitors and traits.
m00x 1 year ago
BDR mutiny totaly done by the distressed banladeshi jowan, Bangladesh army is such a organization they are never or ever take over any loss, listen their voice how they are crying like coward. Do you remain that they will achieve result in favour iour country? They are doing job for UN mission, rationing , alloted plot, flat, this shame is all of us.
saidur12 1 year ago
How dare are the army officer of Bangladesh? They thing they are all all in Bangladesh. The BDR Mutiny was the consequences of Army's suppression over the BDR. There is no need of Army in Bangladesh. We should abolish them.
kallol1234564 1 year ago
@kallol1234564 fuck you army all for bangladesh!!
gun1245 1 year ago
@gun1245 fuck the army officers who r continuously fucking our country...
kallol1234564 1 year ago
@gun1245 @gun1245 fuck the army officers who r continuously fucking our country...
kallol1234564 1 year ago
Hasina is toooo busy with her fathers murder and her family fuck the rest of the country , where is all the men in Bangladesh , what happen to them , their balls drop , fucking hate my country for these two ladies rulling it .
be1z 1 year ago 3
Lawl
legendk1lar 1 year ago
The army ltd. co. of bangladesh has rightly served for their deeds since 1972. To them all the countrymen r bloody civilians! Their torture to DU teachers and students after 1/11. DG shakil was known to be a looter and all the army officers of this counrty are more interested for money than professionalism. They grabbed more civilian posts for honey and butter. They destroyed all the civil instutions of this country. They must learn from this. changing name and uniform is a eyewash.
Tipu15854 2 years ago
The main criminal is Gen. Moin who collaborated with BAL to kill the best of our people. These criminals have to be punished.
RuhulInsaf 2 years ago
what r u talking about? In bangladesh since long one killing another if get chance.you saw well how police droiove over demonstrators during 1-11.the problem is only one place and that is bengalees discriminating bengalees.What is chnaged rwally?ritish discriminated bengalees,pakisdtanis discriminated us, now bengalees discriminating bengalis,high low rank ,bdr militery,militery civil.any change really?
altrnatvthinker 2 years ago
wat the hell..hasina is a prime minister..and she cant handle the situation...showing dumd point..
shuchona 2 years ago
It weren't over pay dispute, these monkeys were used in conspiracy to weaken defenses of Bangladesh by killing it's best. I wish dad had let me keep my bangladeshi citizenship. I would love to join the bangladesh military, this is a time when the Mother Nation needs her sons and daughters to answer her call. We need to rid of these relics that have occupied the leadership like some devine destiny. Bangladesh is a young country run by people who have out lived their time.
samufomba 2 years ago 2
shobai amader bhai, kaukei mara problem er solution na!!!
amar khalato bhai ke haraisi ami BDR mutiny te, tao ami BDR der maira felar pokkhe nai !!!!!! eikhane porishkar bairer hat, hoy India or Pakistan!!
catch those bustards and hit them back .... amrao parbo hit korte oder ke, dhamchapa deyar theke fira mara uchit. nijeder maira ki hove bhai apnara bolen !!!
furhath 2 years ago 9
wud u plz show ur ass HASINA I just wanna kick........I can't fuck u..better my dog....
6563636 2 years ago 3
Bangladesh is a country full of idiots, criminals, stupids and illiterate. This pogrom has been executed by BAL and its leader Hasina.
kgs81 2 years ago 3
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Banning You Tube will not causeany harm to develop Digital Bangladesh, You Tube should be blocked! bcz it is taking the youth in wrong path due to sexual contents! all sexual content website should be blocked in the country.
showaibbmhm 2 years ago
This is a part of the sinister design to demolish the armed forces of Bangladesh was a part of Joy and Mr Ciovacco's joint venture work.
reaz67 2 years ago 2
I mourn for the incident happened months ago but to be honest I was glad to know that the bloody army was taught a lesson. They always had interests in politics; they killed Seik Mujib, killed Zia & never stopped enying- ruling the contry.
monogram63 2 years ago
PM kept cool and dealt with the situation well.
rubaye2000 2 years ago
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Bangladesh liberation from Pakistan was a great acheivement of Bengali people. Now the remaining part of the great Bengali people in west (bengal province india) should also unite with their real brothers and make the great Bengal tiger nation which is destined to be the largest nation of south asia!! SAID BANGABONDHU SHIEKH MUJEEBURREHMON BEFORE MARTYRED BY INDIANS ! LONG LIVE GREATER BANGLADESH! (best kept secret found in a in a copy of unspoken speech of Bangabondhu)
420oscarwilde 2 years ago
army is very proud and posh. they are very much cash rich compare to doctors engineers bankers!!!!????
ports0339 2 years ago
And for the imbeciles who cling into one party or the other, both parties are controlled by illiterate financial terrorists.
We're cursed with these evil people.
The Awami League is behind this mutiny. The reason is simple enough, the AL wants to replace military leadership with their own people.
tradeyaa 2 years ago 8
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IMPERIALISM vs. Sinicization = Bangladesh a vessel state
India's caged neighbor
Burma's Brown fear
Israel's Muslim foes
West's cheap labor
Non-Bengali's Bengali hatred
Buffer Zone or a WANNA BE VESSEL STATE?
canadaaaaaaa 2 years ago
IMPERIALISM vs. Sinicization = Bangladesh a vessel state
India's caged neighbor
Burma's Brown fear
Israel's Muslim foes
West's cheap labor
Non-Bengali's Bengali hatred
Buffer Zone or a WANNA BE VESSEL STATE?
canadaaaaaaa 2 years ago
It is never too late to look inward and find our own flaws than act like being innocent victims, who have failed to grow up for past 38 years. People have been murdered right and left and some part of the population seem to enjoy the murderous culture of the country because nothing else is exciting. Ask why we deserve respect from other countries? Have we done anything that we can be proud of? Just one example, please? Politicians/Military/BDR, all have failed us miserably!
madmonsoon 2 years ago
And, she shouldn't be addressed as "Honorable PM"? That whore has no honor...
lcarsnet 2 years ago
goooooodaaaaaaaaaaa
brohhma 2 years ago
Why couldn't someone just beat the crap out of that bitch Hasian and end the misery of Bangladesh?
lcarsnet 2 years ago 2
please go to part 04 of this video and check my comments, thank you
Engineblock088 2 years ago
"What lasting impact the conflict will have on a still fragile civilian government depends on whether, and how swiftly, Mrs. Hasinas administration can assuage the grievances of the paramilitary border forces without upsetting the military leadership." New York Times.
Pakistan syndrome? But the elephant in the room was not created yesterday. Both major parties have mismanaged the country so much in the past that it is hard to see how the PM would deal with the problem when so much in stake?
madmonsoon 2 years ago
bhaire!!!! apnara karo motamot posondo na hoile galagali koren keno!? ar, motamot de-ar shomoi-i ba galagali koren keno!? bujhen je shob manush ei rokom extreme hole kibhabe system breakdown kore? BBC-r reader comments gula porlei bujha jai difference ta ki, kobe je manush ke shomman korte shikhbo amra!!!!!!
mdniaz 2 years ago
i was born here but ama dual citizen so fk u , and about education ama mechanical engineer on Tool and Die maker i was born in 1985 so ya man i am ballin byaaatch
itsacrises 2 years ago
you express yourself like a nigger. You have not shown anything that we can call intelligent. Nada! You swear great and that tells us where you come from. Uncivilized at best!
Yeah, tell us why you think Hasina is a terrorist? Tell us why you think army's living condition is poor in comparison to other Bangladeshi citizens? A 5th grader should be able to elaborate his or her opinions. Would you? I dare you or get lost!
madmonsoon 2 years ago
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itsacrises 2 years ago
i knew the prime minister was behind all this
farabi9 2 years ago
madmonsoon tumi bhodai magi , the people who protected our country when u r mom was fukin u r dad and giving birth to u ? u feel me . these army officers live in horrible condition hav u ever went to a army cantoment i did I have lots of families in army who r majors and high rankin officers. i don respect any government who cannot protect its own people and kills its own people.
itsacrises 2 years ago
hey idiot, you can't even make cogent argument let alone know your country or the army. By the way, I am a male and I can take care of coward like you and your sisters. Let me guess, you are another uneducated Bangladeshi seeking asylum in Canada on false ground?
Army owns Bangladesh, you moron! What word you do not understand?
madmonsoon 2 years ago 2
hello MR. EDUCATED madmonsoon... i think hasina has given u a job which we call in Bangla, DALAL.... why do u feel like she is the 1 man army... and what she does is goo for the country...?? i cant help my self to tell u a sentence in bangla... "dalali korar r jayga paw na...??" 99% of the politicians r corrupted bastards... they can destroy the country just for money... i believe u r 1 of their dalal... and watch ur language... dont try to b too smart...
adhasnain 2 years ago
Very simple! She is your elected PM! If you want to follow the rules of democracy, you need to put up with her rule. She has the mandate from the people! If she commits any crime, you will have the chance to move her from that position. I am not sure where you get that 99% number. Please provide the reference for us. I am only ventilating my opinions about current situation. You have all the rights to disagree with me. Instead of personal attacks, please put forward your thinkings. Be civil...
madmonsoon 2 years ago
Bangladesh is a failed state run by and for the criminal mafia.
Democracy in Bangladesh is a farce. A joke. All these politicians, including their families and supporters, need to be exterminated like the cockroaches they are.
tradeyaa 2 years ago
This is really shameful for hasina, the talkative lady.
grripon 2 years ago 2
What else would she do? Surrender to bunch of bullies? Have some respect for your government as a institution whether you like or not it's politics.
madmonsoon 2 years ago
Thanks for a true picture of the events most important in our hiostoryt. Thanks to PM not to burgain with army and very much thanks to Army officers for not taking chance of launching MARSHALL LAW. It would be very serious for our nations pride and democracy. Dr. SAIFUL .
Saifuldmch 2 years ago
Cold busted. Good enough for the bastard. None of us are truly free. Just think about it.
fnherstalpatriot 2 years ago
shame on armies
kothinvab 2 years ago
you moreon stupid matha boila kichu ase.........
osama2256 2 years ago
shame on u kothinvhab, the awuamileague supporter.
mns025 2 years ago
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kothinvab 2 years ago
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kothinvab 2 years ago
it's really sorrowful to bring politics ( AL , BNP stuffz) here when the conspiracy is against our nation and democracy . In the audio there are many unabashed statements uttered by some army officers, which is beyond the scope of discussion within 500 characters.
@ osman2256 and msn025
I don't hav time and wish to discuss with stupid blind peoples over here .. PM of 150 million ppl insulted.. she is ur PM too ... shame on u and the ppl having brain at knees.
kothinvab 2 years ago
kot, the monster was created with the killing of Bongobhandu. Gen. Zia met same fate as he came to the scene with blood in his hand. Ershad got away alive in time because Washington stopped supporting all he petty corrupt dictators at that time. You got two women leaders. who basically are not very intelligent but there because of their family names. The idiotic Jamat still thinks it can revive the nostalgic feelings of East Pakistan and all problems be solved. What left is a powerful army!
madmonsoon 2 years ago
Sheikh Hasina has shown her courage and leadership quality facing the furious fired Army officers. This meeting has saved BD.
BDtheHeaven 2 years ago
Bullshit...
Malibag40082 2 years ago
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BDtheHeaven 2 years ago
Watch my video:India and Bangladesh: Lets Unite Both countries
tmirdotorg 2 years ago
Excuse me, I don't want Bangladesh to be a part of India, thank you very much. Why on earth do you want to unite us with them??!
shinigamiasuka 2 years ago
Shini, please ignore that idiot ass Tmir, he is a self-proclaimed rajakar, who thinks Bangladeshis are not Muslims and not doing enough for his fatherland Pakistan let alone for Osama. His grandfather salimullah wanted to make Bangladesh a pure Muslim country but could not finish that divine job because Bangladeshis chose Bongobhandu as their leader. What he says is not what he means. He was only mocking people to watch his pathetic videos. A disgusting human turd!
madmonsoon 2 years ago
mad, the guy has deep hatred for Bangladeshis for being independent and showing very little regard for Pak. Since Bangladesh is not pure enough Muslim, he would rather see it merged with India. He is probably thinking about the creation of mythical ummah? I am sure he is also thinking about Pakistan being merged with Iran and other middle eastern countries , if that would save Pak from loosing Balochistan, NWFP and Swat valley. Another idiot on the loose, I suppose?
draculin100 2 years ago
Brother drac, it is high time to move forward with things that are important for Bangladesh. Bangladesh needs a super stable government, who should be serving the country irrespectively whether you are a poor farmer or an army general.There have been too many mistakes in the past, people have been murdered and Bangladesh has been used as personal property of certain people. Bangladesh needs a strong civilian intelligence agency comparable to CIA so that nobody dares to torpedo its progress.
madmonsoon 2 years ago 2
least to say that you are naive. A new stronger intell agency would not survive a day without being politicized or militarized. The elephant in the house is ARMY and only it can dictate where Bangladesh should be going. The political leadership is weak and inept to push for any real changes that country needs. I hope I am wrong, my friend.
draculin100 2 years ago
drac, I hope I am not beating a dead horse? It is difficult to guess what had been going on between the government and army since the mutiny. The anger has been ventilated adequately as we know now but do we really know what's been cooking at this point. Doing nothing is not an option for the government since the same thing can happen again with so many actors are still on the loose. Hasina's pro-India policy is may be the real thorn for many religious zealots, who would love to see her fail?
madmonsoon 2 years ago
Hell No
Malibag40082 2 years ago
@madmonsoon, I feel that PegasusAside has been trying to give his comments the same way we Bangladeshis do sometime, being emotional and angry with the traditional corrupt politics. Can't we be communal rather than being personal?
@PegasusAside, you are welcome here as a part of our community, I guess it is altogether a different matter if I agree with you or not. But, I agree that looking at the history of our traditional politics, most of them are crooks and deserve severe judgment...
mdniaz 2 years ago
mdniaz, I did praise peg for raising some critical issues but I am not sure BDR mutiny is somehow connected to the newly elected members being crooks. I am sorry I do not see the connections. BDR and army feud has been brewing for long time and I am surprised nobody could see this coming. I would start with intelligence agency to find out whether people who are working for the agency are truly competent. Fire whoever needs to be fired! This mutiny is not politicians fault.
madmonsoon 2 years ago
madmonsoon, thank you. When I understand what you are saying, I do have some thoughts you might consider useful. The incident regarding the BDR mutiny is not completely isolated from my point of view. As a country, all the sub-systems (education, security etc.) are supposed to run under well defined frameworks. The sub-systems themselves are responsible for running the frameworks, as well as suggestions regarding any necessary modifications. Also, these sub-systems are not isolated as well....
mdniaz 2 years ago
Agree, the country is not run by competent people. They might not be crooks but they do not have the vision or competence to run the country. The question remains, who will take Bangladesh to the next stage. Bangladeshi people are in general good people and they do deserve better government. BDR and army clash is just one symptom among many others that yet to surface. If we start treating new government as incompetent, I am not sure what would be the alternative? Any Mandela around?
madmonsoon 2 years ago
Agree, they should be given more time before being criticized badly. But, I guess we should not be too soft as well (forgiveness is a virtue, but reality hurts.....). As Bangladeshis, we must carry on our own little contributions to the well beings of our motherland....
mdniaz 2 years ago
I think the current leadership has learned from its past mistakes. If anybody gets caught with wrongdoing, he or she will be fired instantly. That is how the new government should work from now and on. Since Bangladeshis got the taste of voting, they too will keep the government's feet on the fire. At this point, I do not have any good reason to criticize the new government. PM has handled the army meeting very well and that should give her enough confidence to strengthen her position furter.
madmonsoon 2 years ago
Many of the frameworks overlap; e.g. monitoring, finance, enforcement etc. Now, who is responsible for the start of the developments of these frameworks? When many other entities are responsible, it is the politicians and the parliament who need to decide first and start working with these. Frameworks regarding our BDR, Army were/are supposed to be implemented the same way. As isolated as these entities are, they must fall under some frameworks and the politicians have failed to ensure that.
mdniaz 2 years ago
We have heard that these problems between BDR and Army have been brewing over for quite a long time (e.g. living condition, salary, ration). Why? Because there is no proper framework in place to ensure that everything is being done the way it should be. Now, doesn't that make the politicians responsible directly? Will it be wrong to blame the corrupt politicians for not ensuring that a system has been developed? Specially when they are the formal ombudsman of the country? Everything overlaps...
mdniaz 2 years ago
For what?
zulfiquer1 2 years ago
@aapelbuet bhai r koyek din opekha koren army govt er control e chole asbene karon govt tar mama,khalu,chacha,fufu,nana,nani,dada,dadi bla bla bla.................................. bosache.
darknight0713 2 years ago
Does Bangladesh really need this army?
zulfiquer1 2 years ago
yes it does
tanzim69 2 years ago
very unfortunate to hear such indisciplined approach of so called Disciplined Army. The Army must come under govt control. They are alredy out of control!! Very alarming signal for the country ...
aapelbuet 2 years ago
The upper class in Bangladesh isn't that big. People know each other. I know many law makers from both parties. They are crooks.
Does it matter that some law makers *may* not be crooks. No! You have to look at what they are doing as a whole; e.g. clawing back their duty free cars.
Can we not talk about Bangladesh because other countries are corrupt. No! We have to advance Bangladesh.
Should we not talk about this gov as it is new? No! Challenge them now on all crimes!
PegasusAside 2 years ago
Yes, you can discuss about Bangladesh as much as you want. What I do not like is your lack of civility. If you are an EU citizen of Bangladeshi origin, that makes you a different animal. But I would not generalize any group of people as crooks or criminals. That is outrageous and wrong. If you had any basic EU education, you should know better because I too was educated in Europe. Bangladesh is nascent democracy. It needs to crawl before it can start walking. Continued...
madmonsoon 2 years ago
You do not advance a country by calling names. You should come down from your high horses and provide the solutions for how things can be improved in Bagladesh. I am sure Bangladeshi people will appreciate your constructive inputs. As I have seen so far from your posts, You got nothing of that kind. Nada!
madmonsoon 2 years ago
man..so much audio...
anyone got link to translation????? for all parts????
kalm77 2 years ago
I dunno if anyone'll bother translating, but why do want so? Don't you understand bangla?
shinigamiasuka 2 years ago
হে অভাগা দেশবাসি!!!
অশ্রুজল মুছে ফেলে।
দেশ গড়ে তোল!
bristiahmed 2 years ago
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crazypen2009 2 years ago
Crazy, you got some crazy ideas but the are interesting and should be considered by investigative body. I think BDR people probably got fed up for not being treated as par with army. If you listen carefully witnesses, you would notice the BDR savagery is beyond the problem of simple grudge. BDR people simply become insane. They were not thinking about their future at all. I do not think India or Pakistan involved here.
madmonsoon 2 years ago
@madmonsoon! Thanks for ur reply and also thanks to considered my ideas as interesting. Lets see what happen next ...
crazypen2009 2 years ago
Thanks for thanks. Being little crazy is not too bad! That is how you can keep your thoughts sharper. Keep writing!
-mad
madmonsoon 2 years ago
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crazypen2009 2 years ago
A lot of Hindu owned land that was grabbed in 1971 still hasnt been handed back. One of my Hindu friends is still trying to get land which was grabbed by a gangster in 1971
We can all get along well if we try to understand each other personally rather than in the frame work that politicians set out for us.
PegasusAside 2 years ago
I know many Hindus in Bangladesh. They are totally discriminated against. Some of my Hindu friends are Doctors at medical hospitals. When they go for promotion they find it tough to get advancement. Even when they request leave (they need government permission to leave the country being government officers) a Hindu name ensures that any request will be cut short.
PegasusAside 2 years ago
not really,, i know 2 men in the army.. both of them are top rank army officers VIP.. i m not gona say their ranks as such ...
rickyhassan 2 years ago
vis-a-vie Bangladesh-India relations, I believe that if the ordinary people of India realised how Bangladesh, and other neighbours of India, is treated in trade they would want to India to act more fairly. SAARC allows Bangladesh to send many categories of goods to India which Bangladesh *doesn't* produce, but very few it does produce. When I put this to the Indian Ambassador he just said that Bangladesh didn't negotiate well.
PegasusAside 2 years ago
The army were not ready for the emergency when it cropped up. We saw the same thing in Mumbai when it took (12 hours?) for the commandos to turn up.
The army did a fantastic job running the country for the past couple of years. They cleaned up a lot of corruption and generally made life easier.
Now we have another government of thieves. I can understand the army speaking in this way to Sheikh Hasina. They know that she is essentially leading a gang of crooks. Emotions were also running high.
PegasusAside 2 years ago
You have some good points but I would not generalize all parliamentary member as being crooks. That is not a fair comment. If you tell me about your country of origin, I will be able name plenty of crooks in your country. Yes, crooks are every where. I am sure you are aware of Enron, Worlcom and current wall st meltdown from mortgage-backed security's scandal. Please refrain from generalizing Bangladeshis. This government is only few months old and you already know that they are all crooks?
madmonsoon 2 years ago
I'm a European living in Bangladesh. I love the people here. I'm sure I'd feel the same way about Indian people if I lived in India.
On this occasion I think Sheikh Hasina did a fantastic job. She stopped the army killing thousands of people and creating terrible publicity for Bangladesh. The army had Quad anti-aircraft canons trained on the camp. This would have been a massacre. As it is, this news will slip into the background and be forgotten quickly..
PegasusAside 2 years ago 3
There are multiple things going on. Bangladesh is suffering because of what is going on in Pakistan. Pakistan and ISI now have intelligence assets within BDR. They are trying to turn Bangladesh into a strategic asset against India because right now, Balochistan is on it's way to becoming independent and Sindh may declare independence as well. Northern Areas of Kashmir wants to return to India and get out of turmoil in Pak.
Dharmdefense 2 years ago
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MangUdupi 2 years ago
Bhai Mainul Islam Nasim....> Ami apner vedio gulu suneci. Kintu apni agulu keno add korecen janina. Apni ki mone koren na ata desher bipokke onnai. Ata desher matai narikel banger moto. Desher image nosto hocce na? Ai information gulu desher image nosto korbe, ami mone kori. Tai ami mone kori apni ai gulu withdrow korben. Amra jani deshe politics amader blood-a mishe gece. So samne aro onek amader kosto pete hobe. Ami bideshe taki, kintu amai bideshira jigesh kore ata ki hocce tuder deshe...
smilemyin 2 years ago
Smile, you are wrong about Mr. Islam. This is truly great that we know what's going on between government and military. Actually, it is not too bad that army officers could ventilate their anger. Mr. Islam is true patriot and he should be praised for his courage. If you want to put everything under the rug, that would be temporary gain for certain people but eventually things will explode. Would you prefer that? Transparency is the best way to go!
madmonsoon 2 years ago
doesn,t know how to raise issue gently.this is that!!!!!
repect people ,
kudos to hasina not to send the army to bdr otherwise ii wld be massacre of thousandas.
piikllu 2 years ago 2
Seems like the youtube ban has been lifted by the govt.....
mdniaz 2 years ago
You need treatment for your jaundiced mentality. Why should India try to make Bangladesh weak? Had Bangladesh been economically and otherwise stronger, India could have got extended market. Developed B'desh implies greater benefit to India. Moreover, is not Bangladesh already too weak to compare with Indian economic strength, military might, intellectual ability, standard of research, advancement in pol system, cultural expression, social aptitude in accepting diversity, performance in sport?
MangUdupi 2 years ago
Could you mention any area where India feels threaten for B'desh's advancement? Could you give an example which proves that India plans to make Bangladesh weak? On the contrary, India can give many such examples where B'desh is a party to the conspiracy against India. 10 trucks arms is one such recent example. Khaleda Zia openly declares secessionist of North_East as freedom fighter. Many important B'desh leaders speak like this everyday. Indian leaders hardly refer the name of B'desh.
MangUdupi 2 years ago
Indian leaders- regional not national- need to refer B'desh only with reference to smuggling. Everybody knows that it is a menace. Even one army officer of B'desh said that one of the causes of BDR mutiny could have been the attempt of army to minimize border smuggling. Who smuggles Phencydil from India? You should know that P'cydil is not a banned drug -openly available in any drug store in India. Anybody can get it if he wants. Why it creates problem in B'desh we dont understand.
MangUdupi 2 years ago
India always wants to extend his helping hands in spite of ungratefulness of B'desh. We gave you Tinbigha corridor against the interest of local people. Do you know that two volunteers of anti-corridor movement died in police firing? In spite of that Govt. allowed corridor to B'desh. India allowed export-tariff free 80 lakh piece of garments. Now B'desh demands that not only the export-tariff but also the VAT should not be imposed. How funny? VAT is domestic duty and under state jurisdiction.
MangUdupi 2 years ago
Hasina is a great actor...if she join Dhaliwood i thing she will be a world famus actor.
Now Hasina trying to fit a powerfull glass on our eyes.this glass only show Hasina is a Angel. i thing she will be successfully done this.
darknight0713 2 years ago
I think there is nothing wrong with the meeting. It is very likely that all the army officers were quite furious and frustrated because they could not even try saving their officers. We cannot blame them. Also, PM Sheikh Hasina realized their emotions and responded accordingly. I think even if it was Khaleda Zia or someone else there in the chair of PM they would have been in the same condition.
ahuq81 2 years ago
I could not listen to it carefully but I want to ask a question... the video leaked ... ok.... so why the Goverment trying to ban Youtube in bangladesh? Only because so that we cannot see the video?
firstlessonfree 2 years ago
Any country of SE Asia can no longer afford to dissipate their energy in these wasteful internal discords. There are important issues at stake like economic recession, competition in export market, energy crisis, unemployment, global warming and building better future for generations to come.
ReddSculp 2 years ago
Hasina Is FUkced ....
adzee909 2 years ago
Bangladesh Army officers shout PM to DOR DOR I want to ask Army officer did you show respect to PM.HOW PPL GIV YOU RESPECT if u don't respect toother.larn more,
jaffershad 2 years ago 3
jaffer bhai is absolutely right. does not matter how much emotion they have inside you against the PM, as trained military personnel they can never do that!. what's the difference between them and BDR then?!
tankkk43 2 years ago 2
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tankkk43 2 years ago
any Eng subtitles?
kingnek 2 years ago
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aftab7000 2 years ago
@aftab7000: Nobody here is complaining that it was done by either India or Pakistan. Rather, some Indians and Pakistanis have been showing off their muscles saying Bangladesh is measurably inferior to their countries. I guess, anybody who is a patriot and honest will try to defend against these lies with facts.....read through the thread and decide for yourself....
mdniaz 2 years ago
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aftab7000 2 years ago
Some of the comment here are really silly to say the least.
Either it is done by ISI & Pakistan or it is RAW & India !!!!!!
Not that I am ruling anything out, but surely most of the perpetrators and victims were Bangladeshis!
When will we stop blaming others and take responsibility for our own actions?
There have been too much useless bloodshed in the country and especially in the army for decades! We have to clean the mess at home before peeking into others!
aftab7000 2 years ago
Aftab, apni ektu pore dekhen ager comments-gula je kivabe ei indians ar pakistanis gula bd nie baaje kotha boltese, tao jodi shotti hoito. ei jinish-gula to onno desher manush-o pore, ultimately image problem toiri kore bairer investment divert korbe, politically, economically, culturally-o dominate korbe. desher jonne fight to ek sector-e na, onek onek sector-e...........
mdniaz 2 years ago
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aftab7000 2 years ago
I also agree with the comment of user "sanjeevumd"... If ARMY entered the camp 90% BDR would be killed. only 10% BDR did this work...
These also seems to be a lot of "Off Topic" discussion related to India and communal riots of past...Gentlemen, please be relevant....
BhikariForever 2 years ago
The Bangladesh Army is not only a disgrace to the nation, but also to the entire world. See how these so called "Officers" speaks to their Head of State. Can you imagine that an US Army Officer speak to the President in that manner, no matter how severe the tragedy is. These BD Army Officers need to behave like an "Officer and a Gentleman" no matter what the situation is.
I would give great credit to the Honorable Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina for being "calm and balanced"....
BhikariForever 2 years ago
I agree with the comment below that the rogue BD Army Officers who secretly taped these conversations are in violation of army code of conduct. Yes, they are "the enemy of the State of Bangladesh"
BhikariForever 2 years ago
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tarnimaandsammy 2 years ago
have some respect u b*sta*d
akhen18 2 years ago
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tarnimaandsammy 2 years ago
Who record this?? there is only 2 civilian one shk. Hasina and o mutia chowdhowry this is also breaking the Army law who ever do this find out he might got involvement killing all this brilliants army officer , who ever put this on internet they dont want civil elected govt , find out those people take them to the court marshal together with the 25 and 26 feb.09 Killer.
mehdi4054 2 years ago
@tillmusiclasts
Indians only helped bcoz the wanted to secure their bright future in asia... All the indians are fuckers... the only thik about their own future....
pulak861 2 years ago
indians helped because b'deshi started pouring into our borders . Anyways, you really do not see any country to involve in charity due you? bottomline is, our forces did laid down their lives to save your ass.. mukti bahini was a stick and stones army till RAW handed them real guns.... our navy did stand up to the US nukes
'they only think about their own future' - jeez, whose future should we think about then? Is it our fault that India is progressing while all its neighbors are imploding ?!
tillmusiclasts 2 years ago
* Ayodhya Riots - In 1992 Riots between Hindus and Muslims left 2350 Dead
* Gawakadal massacre - The death-toll was over300
* Bombay Riots - December 1992 & January 1993 riots took 1000 lives
* Kashmir & Jammu Civil War - Total casualties of civil war from 1989 To 2000 is 34093
* Gujraat Bloodshed - The 2002 Gujarat Massacre claimed 2400 Lives
mdniaz 2 years ago
* Calcutta Riots or Direct Action Day Riots - The manslaughter On 16 August 1946 left 4000 people
* Partition Riots - The Rioting and Dislocation associated with partition In 1947 costed 500 000 Lives
* BhagalpurRiots - The Rioting occurred 4 Times In Bhagalpur1924, -36,-46 And -89.1989 left 1900 dead
* Hyderabad Riots - In December 1990 riots took 1,000 civ.& 1,000 radicals totalling 2,000 lives
* 1984 Delhi Sikh Massacre The 1984 Sikh massacre left 4800 Sikhs dead & 1,50,000 homeless
mdniaz 2 years ago
Bad things happen everywhere, regardless in Bangladesh or in India. But, if a society is tolerant enough is judged by the history, numbers, figures compared to the other civilized societies. Indians are claiming to be a tolerant society, let's have a look at the following figures. As the text is too big, I will have to split it into 3 separate comments:
mdniaz 2 years ago
this is really very sad, i stayed in dhaka for 10yrs and its my 2nd home,i just left dhaka 4yrs ago since i didnt have a choice to choose,my company sent me to another place but my heart still belongs to bangladesh.
i hope everything will be ok soon,
may our God bless and help people in bangladesh.
dzeraus 2 years ago
OMG !! Hasina needs to step down !! she is a shameless loser !!! She could have easily saved the children and women !! we blamed Pakistan for raping our women !!! .. but she re-made history ... she did that to the military b.c they killed her family .. how do u think someone who lost her family in the hands of the Bangladeshi military ..will love Bangladesh
DevilsPacifier 2 years ago
@mdniaz
yes, some of they may have been chivalrous, but you in your umpteen comments have also exposed your hate for India and Indians.
THAT after we saved your ass, and helped your mom and sis from getting raped and then brutally murdered. A little gratitude will go a long way.
B'desh and secular! BLAH!
% of Hindus in Bdesh: 28% in 1941
% of Hindus in Bdesh: 22.05% in 1951
% of Hindus in Bdesh: 9.2% in current.
religious intolerance in india is political and statistically insignificant.
tillmusiclasts 2 years ago
Listen, in our country, Hindus are given equal, I say EQUAL, rights and that's the truth. It's 100% better compared to how it is in India. In India, Muslims are deprived of their rights. They don't get into proper positions in their jobs. The Hindus are given top priority in everything. It's religious discrimination there. That's the TRUTH ABOUT INDIA. How do I know? I have relatives in India, and yes, they are Indians.
shinigamiasuka 2 years ago
In Bangladesh, everyone is treated EQUALLY according to their talents, not their skin, nor their religion, nor their beliefs. How do I know? We have some Hindu neighbours in Bangladesh and they seem very much untroubled, FYI. Moreover, the decrease in the number of Hindus in Bangladesh is due to the fact that most of them went to India during '71 and settled there and some of them swapped with Muslims of West Bengal eariler after '47.
shinigamiasuka 2 years ago
This comments section makes very sad reading. Just goes to show that people are always inclined towards self destruction more than anything else.
orabackup 2 years ago
this hasina never worths to be a chief of commander of a freedom sovereign country
washrafulw 2 years ago
sorry !!! its not "USA" that chief of commander will be a prime minster !!!! its not work like that !! it should but it doesn't ... everybody afraid of our Army !!! its very sad!!
AdamMTL 2 years ago
Mr.mdniaz? why you are bringing hindu-muslim? We all same man. If we cannot bring equality in BD, then there will be more figthing and war in BD.
shumon82 2 years ago
Shumon, I am only replying one of the Indian guys. When I never think about this Hindu-Muslim problems, they are mentioning that this is what we do. So, I must tell them that we don't, infact, they do.......right?
mdniaz 2 years ago
Even if you speak of Hindu-Muslims problems, show me a serious case of a single riot in the East Pakistan or Bangladesh history. Abd, consult, on the other hand, the rioting history in present day political India, including W. Bengal. Then tell me what the facts say and what your opinion about this, with facts......
mdniaz 2 years ago
Very interesting. I suppose you do not know history to the extent a primary student should know. Have you heard Noakhali riot in 1946 and what barbarism muslims did at that time? Gandhiji spent 46 days on peace mission at Noakhali. His secretary informed on 12/11/46 that "Even in several places women are taken at night and returned in the morning". Situation was same in Kumilla. What happened after the election of 2001? Why Taslima wrote Lajja? What is the % of hindu population in B'desh now?
banglaekushe 2 years ago
@banglaekushe: Again you are showing a double face giving us one sided (dishonest intent) information. Noakhali riot (Oct 10, 46) began as a reaction of the Calcutta riot (Sep 17, 46). Casualties:
Calcutta: 4000 (official)
Noakhali: 200 (official)
A person who hides information intentionally is a LIAR.....
mdniaz 2 years ago
mdniaz, the riot you are mentioning is known as "Great Calcutta Killing". It was initiated by Suhrawardy, the then prime minister of Bengal, in support of "Direct Action" call given by Jinah (Muslim League). One enquiry commission was constituted but the report was not published by Suhrawardy. All national news papers and govt. officials said that Suhrawardy himself directed police and other forces to continue killing from the control room of Lalbazar. Where you get 200 casualties?
banglaekushe 2 years ago
I do not want to hide any fact. I do not understand how a civilized man can defend Noakhali atrocities as it was a reaction of Calcutta. It implies that you support "Even in several places women are taken at night and returned in the morning". Horrifying. Do you know that Noakhali riot was infamious for "moral extermination". Uncountable Hindu women were looted and forcefully married. Hindu men were forced to eat cow meat.
banglaekushe 2 years ago
Wwhen riot started in Bihar - Nehru, Rajendraprasad and all Congress leaders rushed to Bihar, stayed there and stopped riot. Which Muslim leader went to Noakhali? Just for the partition they wanted riot which then justified their demand. Muslim League had to have evidences that two communities can not live with peace and harmony. By Cacutta and Noakhali riot ML leader Jinnah wanted to make it certain that there would be no hesitation even from Congress to accept partition.
banglaekushe 2 years ago
If you need some more facts and want not to hide anything read J B Kripalani's Autobiography. He spent several months in Noakhali at that time, volunteered to establish peace with his wife. He was sent there by Gandhiji before his visit. Kripalani was the Congress president at that time.
banglaekushe 2 years ago
banglaekushe, I was not born at that time, so, it is not my personal opinion that it was an aftermath of Calcutta riot. Go to Wikipedia, see for yourself:
Direct_Action_Day
I am not defending a riot, all killings are against humanity. And, why are you still talking about Hindu leaders and Muslim leaders? If you really want to know the hearts of the people, you must rise above the games of the politicians and media. Bangladesh is not Pakistan, don't mix it up and don't make it up....
mdniaz 2 years ago
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rayajitkr 2 years ago
Home Minister Advocate Sahara Khatun needs to be more active and act like a home minister.
sadiamel 2 years ago
Again, when India declares itself as a secular country, it was a Hindu and Buddhist country even few hundred years ago. From your own arguments, then you are not part of that ancient culture anymore, right? When the sub-continent had been divided, the names had changed of course, but, who gave you the authority to decide about the cultural heritage of the people? Politicians??!!! My request, don't be partial, please speak the whole truth. Truth about yourself, and if you may, truth about others.
mdniaz 2 years ago
I think that you missed the point of drishyapat. India was never a hindu or budhist country. Indian tradition was tolerence- Hindu, Budhist, Jains, Sikhs, Baisnavs India adore Christans, Jews, Muslim, Sufis etc etc. They contributed lot to form Indian tradition of tolerence- no doubt. But only a section of Muslims - not jews or christans- who demand seperate land and breach the century long tradition of tolerence. Who left India for this can not claim to be part of that Indian tradition.
rayajitkr 2 years ago
I understand this is what drishyapat wants to say. Sen's book as suggested by Drishyapat may be good one to understand tradition of Indian subcontinent.
rayajitkr 2 years ago
However I do not totally agree with the views of drishyapat.
rayajitkr 2 years ago
Who says so? India was never declared officially a Hindu or Budhist country. Even it was not a Muslim country during Mughal period. India traditionally welcome each and every faith in his land. Thus it was quite natural that India would declare itself secular at the time of partition, although Muslims preferred to delare Pakistan as theocratic state. Our present customs, democratic practices, tolerence give us the authority to declare that we inherit the Indian cultural heritage. How u could ?
HuntThatHead 2 years ago
Guys, I have to tell you one thing first, that is, we don't hate Indians. Unfortunately, our lifestyle is governed by the media in a big way and there are always some people everywhere in these two countries who are easy to brainwash. But, yes, we do have grievances just as you do.; and of course, there are reasons for that.
mdniaz 2 years ago
Talking about tolerances, if you dig a little deep, you will find that this part of the sub-continent (Bangladesh) has the best track record of peace and inter-religious tolerance in the whole sub-continent and this is supported by figures and fact of many years (not only after 1947 for thousands of years). But, as the facts are easily available after 47, you might look for this yourself. We are a ethnic group (Bangladesh, W. Bengal) who that don't posses the drive to invade other groups......
mdniaz 2 years ago
Secondly, again you are talking about a theory that is partial. In all aspects of political science, there are two words with two different definitions....Nationality and Ethnicity. A nationality cannot change a person's Ethnicity or the vise verse, but they can overlap. You guys are from the West Bengal, I presume, and Indians of course. But when you are a Bengali, you will always be a Bengali even if the whole turns into a single country. Political division doesn't determine your ethnicity.
mdniaz 2 years ago