Autism and vaccination

[promiseIsaih60]

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[Adhemar05]

Homeopatic doctor, lol!

[javamixture]

and ok what is wrong with the ppl in the world? this is a video about child, vaccines, and autisim. y are there comments posted about vaginas? the word and diagnosis is sick :-Q

[javamixture]

i thought they were always suppose to be tested three times before distributed to the public. it doesn't seem like they have done that. it seem as if we( the ppl) are the clinical trial. does anyone else feel like that?

[javamixture]

well for all we know scientific paper could be opinions to. who said or proved that those paper were really backed by facts. is it just because so many ppl r agreeing on one subject? does that mean that it is proven just because so scientist said that they tested something? i didn't see them and what's is up with these clinical trials for these new vaccines anyway?

[noliesundead]

homepatic doctor...to bad homepathy is not a medical discipline

[SayNoToGMO]

Is there poison in vaccines? Yes, the antigen mixture and preservatives

Antigens are grown in genetically engineered bacteria/yeast. Cell walls, destroyed to get the antigens. add endotoxins, DNA fragments, other cell debris to the "purified" antigens

Contaminant effect with injection has not been studied. The effect with ingestion causes immune disorders

US Patent 7226775-Jun2007 "there remains a pressing need for removing endotoxin from pharmaceuticals. In particular, vaccines"

[SayNoToGMO]

Vaccines use antigens, a piece of a virus, that cause our immune system to act

Scientists used damaged-live/dead virus to develop immunity

Now they grow antigens in billions of bacteria/yeast cells. Cell walls are destroyed and we try to extract the antigens. They are never pure

Cell debris (endotoxins, DNA fragments and more) are with the antigens

These toxins have triggerred autoimmune disease and need to be studied, along with mercury, as a possible cause of autism & other disease

[transtlantic]

been reading a bit about immunology and microbiology, have we?

BUT, the vaccines have usually a manufacter process that makes it to have a purity of over 99%. making it practically harmless in terms of "debri" presence.

the quantity of endotoxins and "more" are to low to produce damage and harmless.

the dna fragments when "free" in any place, can't do a thing and simply desintegrate.

those autoimmune reactions are soooooo rare and don't cause autism. not possible

[SayNoToGMO]

Tranny, I'm so disappointed... You are the one always screaming about studies... where are your references?

[transtlantic]

will be presented the moment you give yours

don't worry, it's very easy to debunk your quackery

[SayNoToGMO]

I said endotoxins should be studied, you imply that they have been, or are you just guessing?

Endotoxins and other cellular debris can cause autoimmune disorder when ingested.

Having those toxins in vaccine is dangerous. You don't need as high a concentration when injecting a substance into the body.

They should be studied

[ckretagentman]

Its like you've never heard of the immune system before.

[transtlantic]

you really have never studied the IS in your entire life....

the quantity of nonsense i am reading from you is such that it hurts....

try go read something about toxicity is dose related and what is an endotoxin

you are just puting "funny" words together... without even understanding them....

go back to school, you agenda is clear: you are against science in general

[SayNoToGMO]

Make up your mind Tranny. You commented twice on my single post which starts "Vaccines use antigens..."

In your first reply you agree with everything I say but claim that the effects are negligible. You even state "been reading a bit about immunology and microbiology, have we?"

In your second post you state "you really have never studied the IS in your entire life"

So which is the real Tranny? Can you make up your mind?

[transtlantic]

yes... ofc:

you are an idiot

and glad you made another pointless post for me to make another pointless post to keep assuring everyone:

you are an idiot

[delitemyheart]

If you think that injecting toxic substances into your body doesnt have any harmful effects..then you are quite simply an donkey!

Can you explain WHY..since mass vaccintions, immunological and neurological problems have sky rocketed?....Autism, retardation,Asthma,Hayfever...­oh and SIDS???

You probably work in the public health sector..and you have a bias opinion. You dont know Shit!!!

[transtlantic]

1) there is no toxic quantity of anything in the vaccine. toxicity is dose related.

2) Because more young people live, this means there will be an increase in genetic problems. Autism nevertheless did not increase, its an artifact due to increase in criteria for diagnose. Retardation did not increase. Asthma is a interisting problem. Allergic rhinitis also an interesting problem. SIDS did not increase.

[delitemyheart]

Because more young people live, this means there will be an increase in genetic problems?....WHAT??? WHAT??? You must be braindead. Tell me....what sort of a turky are you to say something like that? What kind of remedial understanding do you really have?

You typical public health worker. I can smell stupid people like you a mile away. All you understand is a simplistic view of the human body and the immune system..just like the rest of your stupid uni educated mentality!!!

Patheic moron!!!!!!

[transtlantic]

Lol, you don't see the logic? More young people survive, bigger genetic diversity! This is due to a lot of factors, example: prior to the use of desamethasone, the number of less than 37 weeks pregancy, whose babies could survive was lower than 70%. And because a lot more kids from mothers with chronic diseases survive also a bigger chance for genetic problems may arise. This is debated in any ethics class. It's the "disavantage" of the medical success.

[transtlantic]

It's funny that you insult me, and nevertheless you can't present anything to support anything that you say....

My view of the immune system or the human body (which contains the IS - therefore you puting the two separate creates a redundance). is WAY over yours. And just another paper for you to think about:

"Immunization and symptoms of atopic disease in children: results from the International Study of Asthma and Allergies in Childhood". Am J Public Health. 2001 July; 91(7): 11261129

[delitemyheart]

The NVIC has conducted a study revealing that only one out of 40 doctors offices confirm that they report a death or injury following a vaccination. In other words 97.5% of vaccine related deaths and disabilities go unreported.

With pertussis, the number of vaccine related deaths dwarfs the number of disease deaths..which have been about 10 annually for many years in the U.S according to the CDC.

Also the NVICP has paid out over 1.2billion since 1988 to families of children killed & injured.....

[transtlantic]

In other words you assume there is 97,5% of vaccine related deaths and disabillities that go unreported. In other words: there is no death to report or disabillities.

DPT deaths? lol, now its DPT? lol...i wonder the pneumococal vaccine doesn't get that much atention...

Ofc there will be side-effects. Now, deaths? lol, give such source!

And also a lie about the measles outbreaks. And no, the measles vaccine does not cause immunosupression. That's why you don't even post the "study"

[delitemyheart]

No..i did not say that there are 97.5% of vaccine deaths...thats what you are saying! Go back and read properly what i said about the 97.5%.

The vast majority of the time..childhood infectious diseases are benign and self limiting..and they usually impart a life long immunity, whereas vaccine induced immunity is only temporary. Infact temporary immunity can create a more dangerous situation in a childs future. For example, chickenpox vaccine has an effectiveness of 6-10 years....if effective....

[transtlantic]

"benign"? tuberculosis is benign? a meningitis is benign? are you simply stupid? Whooping is "limited"? are you stupid again?

"life long immunity"? so why does shingles happen? and by the way idiot, certain virus if not immunized by vaccines, will be able to avoid the IS in unvaccinated people - being HPV an example.

"temporary" immunity? what's that? That effectiveness is much longer to the chikenpox, its an estimate btw and its vs the age people usually get the disease.

[delitemyheart]

I did not say tuberculosis ,meningitis or whooping cough is benign.Here in lay terms for you; "Im saying that in the vast majority of childhood infectious diseases..the children get over it..and have usually developed life long immunity"!!!

Vaccine induced immunity(Which doesnt really work) only imparts temporary immunity..usually about 10years..at least thats what they say!

[transtlantic]

In very lay terms for you: I am saying that in the vast majority of the diseaseas that vaccines prevent against, children do not "get over it". And instead of having time to develop immunity, they don't and will probably die!

Vaccine induced immunity (AKA - artificial Active immunization - meaning it replicates what happens in the natural way) works. And you did not prove otherwise. And does provide life-long immunity in the majority of the people. That's what "they say"

[transtlantic]

The usually shots who may require 10 per 10 years a new shot is mainly the tetanus shots. ALL the other vaccines practically garantee life long immunity for the STRAINS it is made for. But because bacteria and virus evolve this means we eventually will have to keep changing the strains in the vaccines, or adding more. That explains some lower efficiency for some time periods.

Vaccines do not contain "toxicants" - FACT!!!! Toxicity is dose related - FACT!!!!!

[delitemyheart]

.....If effective, it will impart, it will postpone the childs vulnerability until adulthood, when death from the disease, while still rare, is 20 times more likely than in a child!

It is a know fact that vaccines have toxicants and carcinogens such as thermisol, aluminium phosphate, formaldehyde and phenooxyethanol. And if you think thats OK to inject into the human body...then thats your problem. And the problem you have an idiosyncratic mentality!!!

[transtlantic]

What is a known fact is that vaccines do not contain thiomersal for more than a decade now... nevetheless ignorant moros like you still think it has! and "toxicants" - toxicity is dose related. There is no carcinogen in the vaccines. NONE. your body produces formaldeyde in much bigger quanitities than in the vaccines every time you drink a glass of wine.

Its ok to immunize.

[delitemyheart]

Vaccines do contain toxicants..that is FACT!!! What planet do u come from?

You said.."toxicity is dose related"...Well then how come a 2month old baby that weighs 12 odd pounds gets the same dose as a 2 year old baby that would weigh 35-40 pounds???

Are you stupid??...you have just contradicted yourself ROTFLMAO

You say i keep NOT supporting my claims that vaccines are bad. Man you are insane...something is wrong with you mate....your lost!

[transtlantic]

The planet i come from, people have chemistry in science class, where the concept of toxicity is thaught!!! Because the dose for the 2month old is not toxic! and for the 2 year old baby, by logic, will also not be toxic!!!

You are just dumb. That's not even in question. And you sure keep not presenting any evidence at all. I will tech you what is evidence. just wait another post.

You grandmother does not get sick from the strain she is immunized against. and that's the most dangerous strain.

[delitemyheart]

.....she spends 2 months of the year in bed..when the vaccine is supposed to stop her from getting it. Not realising that the vaccine is killing her! she to the flu vaccine again 6 weeks ago and she has been out of bed for a week now finally after 5 weeks this time. But no more. I wont let her EVER, EVER TAKE THIS F&%#$@* poison vaccine EVER AGAIN!!!

[transtlantic]

And finaly, ofc vaccines are not "poison", that's stupid thing to say.

Complete no brainer. Has i said: don't vaccinate --_> accines increase, and death comes around. Its just a matter of time if herd immunity goes low. It's a fact!

And i must point out that you keep not supporting your claims with any evidence that vaccines are "bad". or that any of its ingredients do harm.

keep trying though. But with evidence, next time.

[delitemyheart]

.....sp plz.....stop dribbling Shit!

The CDC has reported measles outbreaks in 100% vaccinated populations. Measles has become the disease of the immunized person now! And a more recent study has found that measles vaccination produces immune suppression which contributes to an increased susceptibility to other infections!!!

[transtlantic]

And you always have the option: don't vaccinate, herd immunity goes down: bang! more people infected --> death or illness for life!!! It's the option to not-vaccinate: death or be ill for life.

google shingles, iron lung, tuberculosis, meningitis, all those diseases. That you think are far far away..... and how close they were before vaccination!

I know i'll be in the line when the swine flu vaccine appears!

[delitemyheart]

Also...some vaccines contain human diploid cells originating from human aborted fetal tissue, a fact that might effect many peoples vaccination choices if they only knew this was the case!

If you want to take the swine flu vaccine when it comes out..then be my guest.

My grandmother takes the flu vaccine every year for the last 6years...and every year she is as sick as a dog with the flu twice a year. and each time she is sick for a month..bed written! She spends 2months of the year in bed.......

[transtlantic]

Vaccines don't contain nothing of such cells that you talk about. And even if they do, it does no harm. They are utterly destroyed.

Actually your grandmother does not get that "sick" from the flu. She might get some strains of flu, or pneumonia due to bacteria. But from the influenza virus, she very probably does not, and that's what kills most elderly people.

the vaccine is preventive and not a cure. It may work differently in some people. The vaccine is not "killing her", old age is.

[delitemyheart]

My grandmother does get sick from the Flu every year For a month. Dont tell me what my grand mother gets sick from. She gets the full strain of the flu you Moron...what do you know? Go back to sleep.

The flu vaccine she takes does not work. Vaccines are a lod of bullshit. And they have serious long term effects aswell.

The only clinical evidence for vaccines is their ability to stimulate antibody production in the recipient. Vaccines commits immune cells to the antigens in the vaccine ONLY!!!

[transtlantic]

What do i know? it wouldn't fit in one of this small boxes of youtube. But i can just write that i know about immunology and microbiology ( main books: Kuby, 4th ed Immunology, Murray, medical microbiology).

The flu vaccine she takes might not work sometimes. It has a close to 60% efficiency. In a lot of people it does not provide immunization. But the flu shots are not pediatric shots. And again you make assumptions without proof

The stimulation of antibody production is proof of Immunization

[delitemyheart]

Ok so you are some immunology and microbiology expert.

Tell me then....How can stimulation of the Antibody be proof of immunization when Agamma globulin-anemic children are incapable of producing Antibodies, yet they recover from infectious dieases almost as quickly as other children!

How can you explain this???

Do you really honestly think that immunization is as simplistic as what you say....artificially stimulating Antibodies???

You make me laugh fella!

[transtlantic]

And again you just did another show of complete ignorance about what you are talking about. Plus the lack of evidence.

You are lying about the rare disease that you posted. Thoe kids get very ill and die more often.

I never said that immunization was "simplistic", do you want me to be more complex? i doubt that you would understand.

stop being stupid. And at least try support your claims, you keep lying and lying. btw, my next post will contain a paper. to see if you actually learn

[delitemyheart]

Im not lying about Agamma globulin Anemic kids. I know they get sick. My point is they still manage to fught off infectious diseases..and they are incapable of producing Antibodies. This proves that immunity is far more complex than artificially trying to stimulate Antibodies. Natural immunization obviously involves many other bodily functions,sytems and organs. And far more complex than what science understands!

Im not interested in clinical studies...they dont really prove a ras bra zoo!!!

[transtlantic]

Agamma globulin kids do not loose cell immunity. There are various ways the human body can fight diseases. Igs' are one of them. Its called the humoral immunity. This means they still have cell mediated immunity.

Those kids are not even given vaccines. And ffs... you keep not having a clue how immunity works!!!

Clinical studies explain how immunity works and effective vaccine are.

don't tell... you think a lay person as better understanding about the natural world... right....

[delitemyheart]

15 years ago one of my best friend was diagnosed with "systemic sclerodema". The doctors told him he wouldnt live any longer than 4years. Well he is still alive today. He sticks to his vitamins and herbs...oh and he drinks Alcohol like a fish. His finger tips go black sometimes..but he is still kicking and will probably die of old age!

Science aint what it cracked up to be!

[transtlantic]

When doctors give a prognosis is based upon an average that was obtained studying previous cases. Your friends disease is more or less rare. And usually such patients, two/thirds live at least 11 after diagnose. This means a third will survive past that!

[transtlantic]

I am sorry for your friends disease. Fortunately there are a lot of new treatments every year. This improves quality of life as much as possible. Vitamins and herbs won't help him, and might worsen the situation.

Drinking alcohol also is the worst that he can do....

Finger tips going black is what is called Raynauds syndrome and its usual sign in autoimmune diseases.

I don't know how old is he, older the age of diagnose, quicker the disease.

[delitemyheart]

Specialists told him he has probably gotten his auto immune disease from handling Bleach for 11 years as he was a cleaner. Apparently bleach can give you this disease. Sorry you are wrong. He sticks to a high vitamin B diet with vitamin supplements as well. And the Chinese herbalist he went to has done him a world of Good and extended his life. He still takes Herbs and that is what has extended his life. Even know he still smokes and drinks everyday after work!

[transtlantic]

The cause of scleroderma is unknown and best chances are that its a genetic disorder. As it's usually a thing that runs in the family.

Vitamins are known to help in autoimmune disease even though strong evidence lacks for such.

the chinese herblist can't do a thing. The herbs he sells or are illegal and then can actually do an uncontrolled "something" and his comiting a crime. Or are approved and therefore are nothing more than a placebo, the FDA don't allow herbs in high doses.

[delitemyheart]

All western doctors say that chinese herbalist cant do a thing. Well thats rubbish. I suffered from exima and severe hayfever since i was a child..i mean really bad! I was on medication and creams until the age of 26. I went to the best chinese herbalist in Australia...and i was cured in 3months!

I was introduced to this herbalist by my Boss who i worked for. My boss had early stages of bowl cancer. I stuck with the hebalist for 4years and is now cured!

[transtlantic]

I never said that herblism can't do a thing. It can. That's why it needs to be regulated. We don't use herblism anymore. we use pharmacology now. Much more modern and actually a science that can be controlled and very usefull.

The principle of herblism is the same as pharmacology: to use an active principle in order to produce a desired effect. the proble with herblism is that its very difficult to ensure that the active principle is in the desired dose.

[transtlantic]

"exima"? eczema you meant. There is a natural progression to allergic diseases. You clearly have a story of such. Its usual that in the 3rd and 4th decades of life to get better from allergy. But sorry, again the herblist didn't do a thing. You eventually will suffer again from your allergy. around the 6th and 7th decade of your life.

Your boss will die if he stopped treatment (which i doubt he did).

again... your little stories are no evidence

[delitemyheart]

And i was cured from my hayfever and eczema by the hebalist...nothing else. If i hadnt of gone to him i would still be on anti histhemine's and cream...doing me a fat lot of good. Regardless of what you think...he cured me. I know he did. And thats the difference...eastern medicine will cure a patient. Western medince only sweeps the problem under the carpet...making the symptoms go away. but the problem is still there.

Immunization isnt cracked up to be what YOU think it is. U have 0 evidence!

[transtlantic]

You cured nothing by the herblist. Allergies are a complex condition. With different manfestations in people.

Your little storry is proof of what happens with the usual joe who seeks quackery as a treatment: placebo effect. I already explained to you that allergy has a progression in life. Your age when you wnet there is a time where your allergy get better. Later in life your herblist won't be able to do anything. And you will feel worse. Placebo won't do a thing.

and you will come back to WM

[delitemyheart]

you are an amazing no nothing dickhead! sorry to tell u straight.

I was cured by my herbalist u stupid donkey...what would you know. I know he cured me..i watched the eczima disapear slowly unitil it was completely gone. I now have no problem in spring anymore!

half of what you say is bull and the rest is all shit!!!

Dont think you can tell me why im better. because you dont know. all you know is what you have studied. and what you have studied dont mean shit ok!!!

[transtlantic]

Well, i just supported what i say so you the liar here. Your herblist did no more than what the doctors were giving you. You just needed a change in the dose of therapy action it seems.

Mast cells produce histamin btw.

What i study is then proven in practice. I know a lot more than a ingorant fool like you, it seems.

be smarter delite

[transtlantic]

lol? 0 evidence? i like when people challenge me for that. Because you will be the one unable to present evidence.

and let's start with 3 papers:

Comments on serious anaphylaxis caused by nine Chinese herbal injections used to treat common colds and upper respiratory tract infections., Regul Toxicol Pharmacol. 2009 Jun 24

and again i already told you that herblism uses the same principle of pharmacology. but with less rigorous methods. so it can actually do good in some

[delitemyheart]

you pathetic western doctors think you know about the human body than the chinese herbalists. hahaha what a joke. these people have been studying medcine for thousands of years. I dont know of any herbalist that will inject anything in the human body. a real herbalist wouldnt do that. only in america do u hear of crazy stories like that.

You have a hide i tell u what mate. fancy telling me the herbs didnt cure me...haha u idiot. as if u know!

[transtlantic]

lol, and western medicine have not study medicine for thousands of years? lol so leonardo da vinci, galeno, shamans and other healers don't ring a bell to you?

A real herblist wouldn't do what? you clearly have no knowldge about chinese medicine, they do inject herb preparations in the human body! That's how much ignorant you are.

I already told you: your allergy will get bad when you are older and no herb can help you, only medicine

[delitemyheart]

the herb has already cured me you son of a motherless goat! my allergy will not get bad when i get older beause i dont have any allergy. Id love to punch you square in the face. when you talk....SHIT COMES OUT!!!

[transtlantic]

Don't worry i don't feel the same about you. I don't hate you. I can only hope that you at least understand some of the stuff i write here. Your insults are typical. When a person is fooled by quackery its hard to get away from it. They explore very well people's ignorance.

I am happy you feel better. At the end that's all i want: that you feel better.

[transtlantic]

btw... practically all the papers i provided you are from chinese authors

Chan BC, Hon KL, Leung PC, Sam SW, Fung KP, Lee MY, Lau HY.

Institute of Chinese Medicine, The Chinese University of Hong Kong, Shatin, New Territories, Hong Kong, China.

from the eczema paper

[delitemyheart]

a good friend of mine has two kids. one is 7years old and the other is 4years old. they have never had a vaccine shot. He took the older child to the doctor before she started school for a check up and they did a blood test. the doctor was amazed at the result. she had an enormously high white cell count. Both his kids had the flu once..but they got over it in two days. TWO DAYS! where as the other kids in the school whom are immunized are off school for a week.

You are in denial!!!

[transtlantic]

I already told you such pittyfull stories are meaningless. No use as evidence. Those kids (if your story is true). Can only be at school if they have vaccines. (exceptions happen). So if they really aren't immunized.... i can only hope they never get any of the diseases, vaccines prevent against.

In the end, that's all i want. That whatever you do, you feel good and don't harm yourself.

[delitemyheart]

you see..you see..YOU SEE? to u its not evidence. ohh well, like like im waisting my time. because any evidence someone provides against vaccines..u say "pittyfull story..no evidence". you only believe what you want. thats fine. its your loss at the end of the day. Fact is nothing should be injected into the human body. injecting chemicals and the bu they are trying to immunize against is lunacy! And you are a lunatic two!

[transtlantic]

To me or everyone with a critical thinking. Evidence is something well documented. With a objective, a method, a result and a discussion. Wih a peer-review in the end. That's evidence. What you tell with no support is no evidence. For all i know, you can be lying all along.

You did not present one scientific paper against vaccines.

What is lunacy is your ignorance. You clearly were reffuted and i presented evidence against you and explained your little stories. you the one denying reality

[delitemyheart]

OK NICE GUY!

[delitemyheart]

see the video i sent you!

u still havent proven how artificially trying to stimulate antibodies against the synthetic bug constitutes immunity. And that all blood types react the same way to that piss you inject into babies! you have not rfuted me. you have nothing. i have all the circumstantial evidence on my side. you have nothing but lies and clinical reasearc only. and thats not evidence. LMAO

[transtlantic]

Ok, i am tired of this nonsense with you. Your ignorance is amazing. So i'll start sending you hundreds of papers to see if you learn anything.

I suppose you did not have any education in your earlier life

[promiseIsaih60]

@delitemyheart Don't mind Trannie, he''s a paid shill that's been on MANY of these sites for a long, long time~ :)

[delitemyheart]

@promiseIsaih60 Lol yeah thats for sure..

[delitemyheart]

how come some vagina's stink and some smell lovely?

have you ever wonder why??

Or do you think all vaginas smellthe same???

What makes u think that blood type A, B, AB and O can all react the same way to germs???

What makes you think every blood type can have the same immuno shots as other blood types???

You got a lot to learn mate. And i hope you pull your bloody finger out and learn soon!

[transtlantic]

I smelled more vaginas than you. And i do know why they smell differently. Want you to know why?

Blood types have nothing to do with germs.

Blood types have nothing to do with immunizations.

You the one who seems to need a lot a bit of school time.... make it a long bit...

Apply for highschool science class, it will do you good.

Pick an encyclopedia sometimes ffs!!!!... you really are dumb!

[transtlantic]

What is funny is that you acuse the anti-histaminics of making you fat... when in fact the herbs that they give you have the same principle of action most of the times!!!

Kujin suppresses histamine signaling at the transcriptional level in toluene 2,4-diisocyanate-sensitized rats. J Pharmacol Sci. 2009 Apr;109(4):606-17

Traditional Chinese medicine for atopic eczema: PentaHerbs formula suppresses inflammatory mediators release from mast cells. J Ethnopharmacol. 2008 Oct 30;120(1):85-91

[delitemyheart]

anti histamines make me fat? when did i say that??

you are posting bullshit to undermine herbalists. because there is t much money involved in drugs. the chinese herbalist i went to has cured 100's of skin conditions like eczema and psyrises. no western medicine can cure it. all the give is cordizone creams..steriod creams. and they do not cure it. just ease it. and in the long term damage the skin!

Skin diseases are one of the easiest things for a herbalist to cure!

[transtlantic]

lol, western medicine does the same and better of what that herblist does! want more evidence? come on.... you have ZERO evidence to support you. What did i tell you.. you asked for evidence and i presented. And now you aren't able to support none of your claims...

There are dozens of treatments for eczema and psoryasis. But a lot of them expensive. Its cortisone. And its the most basic of the treatments. there are better treatments now.

[transtlantic]

Herblists just provide with higher doses of those remedies that you write here. I already told you they use the same principle of pharmacology. Which is used by doctors. What is usefull is the active principle (READ WHAT I WRITE!!!).

This means they do exactly the same and might even do worse (which i've seen), because they sometimes give you to high doses of those chemicals.

As i told you, your allergy will get worse with age. Its the history of the condition. GO read it in wiki or something

[transtlantic]

So to try see if you learned already what is to present evidence:

because your story is no more than a simple story with no support or factual support. Your friend has nothing more than a placebo effect. And we do know that stress is a trigger for autoimmune complications. So the placebo probably relax him.

Smoking may actually protect against some autoimmune diseases - being ulcerative colites one of such.

Drinking is simply wrong and just kills him faster.

[delitemyheart]

He is now a truck driver. and the poor bastard was a victim of a road rage attack a couple of years back. He got outa the truck to front the angry road rager..and he couldnt even fight back..as the Adrenalin in his body made him shake like crazy. the doctors said its because he doesnt have much blood and when he Got out of his truck to fight the road rager the Adrenalin built up in his blood stream and there isnt enough blood to balance it out..more adrenalin than blood in other words!

[transtlantic]

and ofc the story of the road rage attack is precisely why he should stick to the physicians in order to be better. His stress triggered the disease...

If he actually has a systemic involvement, heart, lungs and other organs might have complications.

The adrenalin may cause lots of heart and vascular complications. And ofc worse in a person like your friend.

But what the heck has this to do with vaccines?

[delitemyheart]

Also the herbalist asked me if i know anybody with HIV? I said no i do not...why i asked? He said im taking HIV patients. I laughed at him and said you cant cure HIV. He looked at me very seriously and said..I have already cured someone with HIV. And i said but how? And he said to me.. HIV is only a virus. Its only a matter of cleaning out the virus!

He also said he can produce the patients blood records to prove it. The patient has no HIV anymore!

[transtlantic]

The herblist you went if he claimed to treat hiv patients is the biggest fraud that can exist!!! And i doubt he cured one single person with hiv in his entire life.

I would love to put that person to the test and read those blood records he have to show.

[delitemyheart]

The herbalist i went to back in 2001 has cured a HIV positive man. I spoke to my old boss today and he still goes to the herbalist from time to time. And he knows about this man with HIV that was cured. The herbalist doesnt lie. And he doesnt advertise his business or what he can do. People know him thru word of mouth. Chinese medicine practice is not illegal in australia. We have a right to seek alternative medicines if we choose!

[transtlantic]

As i said to you. The herblist was lying. No one can "cure" a hiv infection. NO one. Such thing will give the nobel prize and world recognition right away!! You can«t imagine how far quacks go to fool people like you...

he advertises his little business by earsay, spreading nonsense with people like you. Fool enough to buy his crap.

Chinese medicine is not illegal anywhere in the world. But they are regulated in any western country. As it is a practice with no evidence of working.

[transtlantic]

Its quite amazing that people like you usually have a typical profile: complete ignorance about basic sciences, anti-science view, eppisodes of despair for treatment personaly or close friends,... and then you are gulible enough for anything outside science... even though those people explore you and use the placebo effect in order to scam you.

amazing... you really have no idea what the scientific method is

[transtlantic]

SO now i will teach you what is evidence for claims, NEMJ:

- Vaccines and Vaccination, 2001, review article

- Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in the Community-Dwelling Elderly, 2007

conclusion: "During 10 seasons, influenza vaccination was associated with significant reductions in the risk of hospitalization for pneumonia or influenza and in the risk of death among community-dwelling elderly persons."

get it? read this and learn how to support what you say.

[transtlantic]

And if you want more clinical evidence that you clearly don't have the knowledge to understand, please ask. And i might even explain it, if you ask nicely.

[transtlantic]

Really? "the full strain"? you did a microscope analysis and all that... right...

What she gets is a lung infection, which may be caused by hundreds of possible microorganisms.

The flu vaccine she takes avoid her to be infected with a serious strain of the influenza virus- which could be deadly.

And again you accuse the vaccines with an ad hominem argument with no evidence to support you. No, vaccines DO NOT have long term side effects.

[delitemyheart]

Yes....the full strain. And no i havent done a microscope analysis on my grandmothers Flu. Have you???

I know how crook she gets mate...not you! I dont care what bloody strain it is. Fact is she gets as crook as a dog for a month every year..when she shouldnt be. And its always two weeks after her flu shot. now isnt that a coincidence...always two weeks after her flu shot she comes down with a very violent flu..Body aches..high fever..lung and sinus infection....etc!

[transtlantic]

If you have no identification of your grandmother's infectious agent how can you garantee it was the flu? why wasn't it the haemophilus influenza, bacteria, and most common cause of pneumonia in the community?

you should care about the "bloody strain".

She shouldn't be "crook as a dog", if she gets sick due to thte strains that the flu shot protects against. If you don't know that, you arguments are useless. and i can claim she gets sick due to a bacterial infection, not viral.

[transtlantic]

the flu shot is usually given before the winter. The vaccine takes effect in less than 3 to 10 days. Meaning that after 2 weeks i can garantee that the vax had nothing to do with your grandmothers getting sick.

Instead of blaming vax, try blame your lack of care. You should prevent against the "sick season", with better care, like cleaning the house, avoid cold in the house,....

[delitemyheart]

Man you can eat off the floor in my house ok! For the last 6years in a row..she has had the flu vaccine. And every single time without fail precisley two weeks after the shot...she is sick with flu. Now that may not be proof for you...but it is obvious for me!

[transtlantic]

Precisely after two weeks after the shot proves that the vaccine has nothing to do with it. I already told you, the vaccine can't produce a side effect starting that longer before the shot. Your story just proves there is something that happens around that season that might alter her. Maybe seasonal asthma, which may increase lung infections? Some cleaning in the house where the clothes from previous season is re-used? whatever. Sorry, but it is not the vax.

btw,correction:its Raynaud's phenoma

[transtlantic]

*that longer after the shot

[transtlantic]

lol, that "bias" shout was funny. Don't be ignorant. You don't put lay people talking about what they don't know.

And try support what you say. None of those conditions that you posted have anything to do with vaccines.

[delitemyheart]

Ohhh bullshit. you are either a liar or an idiot! You dont have any proof to what you say. where as i can provide plenty of independant studies and testimonies of people!

In the Mid 70's Japan raised its immunization age from 2years old n up. And their Sids cases dropped dramaticly. They had the lowest Sids in the World! Can you explain that?...And dont be sayoing its a coincidence!

What proof do you have that Vaccines do work?? What proof do you have that vaccines dont cause other problems???

[transtlantic]

See, how i knew that you would be a complete lay person about you are trying to talk about?

Japan did not raise anything it gave the chance for fathers to decide when to give the vaccine. And released the info that they can start the DPT shot (not the others) at 2-3 years old. (and "up" is in any part of the world). Their SIDS cases never droped due to that change. It's a lie promoted by anti-vax groups and easily debunked. Because it is a coincidence as most parents kept giving the shots.

[transtlantic]

And this is the evidence for Japan SIDS reduction explanation:

"The Decline of SIDS: A Success Story for Epidemiology, by Terence Dwyer and Anne-Louise Ponsonby "

They did not even had the lowest cases of SIDS in the world. But you can also verify that at WHO int. Or any international pediatrics group.

Proof that vaccines work: googe iron lung

Vaccines do cause side effects: 1 in a million will have a local allergic reaction. Less than that will have something a bit more serious. no worry.

[transtlantic]

PMID: 15446391;12880876; 12949291; 14519711; 16919130; 18791815; 15858952; 14754936; 11222420; 11850369; 15342825; 15342856; 19128068; 17168158; 19015994; 18172138; 18482737; 18180424; 18180423; 11331700; 16818529; 15342824; 17898097;

To say I have not presented evidence is a lie. Learn the scientific method, then come back to me.

[transtlantic]

to all the anti-vax wackos!: "Vaccines didn't cause autism, court rules", CNN, or read official justice department notes

[Robodoon]

LOL! are you looking for justice in the courts....LOL

[transtlantic]

where should i look for justice then?

you got 2-3 intances in most of the western world, plus a supreme court... you can appeal, present new evidence, call witness, call for experts, you can even have a juri sometimes,...

do you have an new better optional justice system?

[SayNoToGMO]

Tranny is a pharmaceutical shill

He lies and when exposed he buries posts with spam. He should be blocked from commenting on any vaccine video

He gave up citing specific studies with me because every one was irrelevant, MERCK connected or wrong. Now he wants me to read thousands of studies at PubMed and refute all of them

He recently made another mistake and referenced a quote from an NIH paper. That paper shows Gardasil is useless

[transtlantic]

by the size of your posts you the one burying comments... gmo

you want me blocked because i debunk all of your lies

you reffuted not 1 of the papers and presented not 1 from your side...

the paper i posted actually reffutes all of your nonsense...

GMO is against vaccines in general and seems to have an agenda to spread fear

[janeleone]

I think they neeed to give hondreds of shots to every newborn babie.

i herd that merkury is gud 4 yu. I think its newtrishus.

[mujaku]

The World Health Organization did a study and found that while in an unimmunized, measles-susceptible group of children the normal rate of contraction of disease was 2.4 percent; in the control group that had been immunized, the rate of contraction rose to 33.5 percent.

[becomemorespirit]

thanks!

Also; 70% of the people that died from whopping cough ( which is very rare) had been vaccinated against the illness.

[makaldasa]

I'm calling a big BS on this one. What is the study called? Let me guess, you didn't actually read it. And anyway-- I thought you guys didn't trust the WHO? So you don't believe them when they say that vaccines work, but you would believe them if they said vaccines didn't work. It is starting to look like you only agree with studies when they agree with you. But in this case you are totally fabricating, or severely misrepresenting a study. WHAT IS THE NAME OF THAT STUDY? DOES IT EXIST?

[Ooloosoon]

Shoot the Kids up with Deadly Toxins and Cancer Virus (like SV40) to "protect" them

OR

Pick up a bottle of "Silver Biotics" shown at BYU University to KILL EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE OVER 650 DIFFERENT PATHOGENS TESTED

and skip the DEADLY TOXINS, BRAIN DAMAGE AND AUTISM of the Vaccines

Silver even KILLS VIRAL PATHOGENS

Yet NOT a WORD from the BIG PHARMA OWNED MEDIA

We've been drinking GNC Healthfood stores "Silver Biotics" 6 YEARS now and nobody in this house has been sick since

[Bearman1888]

hmmm...a product trademarked by a large corporation who tests this product on unsuspecting subjects in poor, rural Africa. Sounds similar to many of the unethical ploys of big pharma to me.

[Ooloosoon]

The company that makes "Silver Biotics" is based in Utah and is a MOM AND POP FAMILY OWNED..MICRO..SIZED COMPANY

For thousands of years people have used Silver to fight bacterial and Viral infections.Thats how the Western Legend of the "Silver Bullet" came to be (and actually long before that there was the legend of the "Silver Arrow")

This small family in Utah just perfected it and then started giving it away to friends...over time people asked if they could buy it from them.

It WORKS

[Whoo69]

And even if there is a connection, it is very small at best, minute. Anti-vaccination people take very small numbers of children who are adversely affected, out of millions of vaccines administered, and then they just assume that "this means vaccines are evil." When nothing could be further from the truth! What about the kids who didn't get smallpox or measles or some other disease BECAUSE they got vaccinated? What about diseases wiped out because of vaccination? Do you forget those?

[becomemorespirit]

The vaccines were introduced after the numbers of these diseases had gone down dramatically in numbers! So it has less to do with routine vaccines than life style; the fact that we in our part of the world have a tremendous number of foods available, good hygiene and vitamins and we live in great conditions. I had measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough as a child and so did most of my friends. No one got hurt either.

[Whoo69]

For the last fucking time, vaccines do NOT cause autism!  Just b/c there was a little mercury in the vaccine does not mean the child will automatically have autism. Autism is a genetic disorder. Kids are born with it. You cannot get injected with a vaccine and then somehow get this weird condition where you're totally unemotional the next year and can't communicate effectively with people. It does not work that way. A little mercury in the bloodstream does not turn off those parts of brain.

[Ooloosoon]

Well the CDC has STATED IT DOES..and even ADMITS this in the Poling Case.

The CDC also chose to settle the case with the family.

So thanks for stopping dipstick

[truthcrusader2008]

'A little mercury in the bloodstream does not turn off those parts of brain"

How would you know? Watch the Calgary Univerity youtube video "How mercury destroys brain cells".

[hiodr]

a doctor who treated 35,000 amish children who typically don't get vaccinated, found that only four were autistic, when the statistical norm should have been 140. one of the children had lived near a power plant where there was mercury contamination in the soil, the other three, two of which had been adopted, had been vaccinated.

[nmste]

our food is contaminated, our water is contaminated, our air is contaminated, and yes our vaccines were contaminated with mercury for no other reason than to make pharmeceutical companies more profit, FACT, until 2003, amiriliano

[amiriliano]

Please view my new movie: "Vaccine Myths Episode 1" about vaccine information on You Tube.

Thank you.

[lhlwl78]

This hardly scratches the surface in terms of the fundamental causes of autism and the role of vaccinations, however it is SO important that this information reaches people! There are medical associations in the US that have much more information and there are wonderful books such as "Children with Starving Brains" by Jacqueline McCandless MD and "Treating the Childhood Epidemics" by Kenneth Bock MD that delve further and more technically into this "forbidden field". It's there if you want it!!!

[Johannes9126]

Yeah, if you die from measles as a baby, you won't get autism later... Anti-vaccinationists are just plain nuts.

[austinstock]

lol

[zindrag]

Thank you!

Good job!

Keep doing it!

[blamy10]

900% increase in autism since 1990, 1 in every 125 children. If it were lethal, there would be absolute panic. Shortly, 1 in every 125 adults is going to be drawing disability in the U.S. I wonder what THAT will do fiscally.

[vaccinesharmbabies]

This video is great as it shows parents' experience which is usually dismissed as "coincidence" or "anecdotal evidence". It also shows how health professionals who step out of line and tell the truth are threatened. The "vaccines are safe and effective" myth has to be preserved at all cost because it's medicine's sacred cow and goose that lays the golden eggs all in one!

[ASDMOM27]

Why is this info not free? Why would we have to buy in order to hear his opinions on autism and homeopathy?

[vaccinesharmbabies]

You have seen the trailer and have listened to a summary of the movie on you tube for free. Why should you get the entire video for nothing? People who make videos to inform others have to outlay money and also deserve a financial reward.

[PaulaRennings]

We would like to offer this information for free.

We contacted several broadcasting stations with the request to let us make this documentary. They al refused. Because we thought that is was important to share this information we decided to make it anyway and paid for al the cost our self. Because we also want to make a second part we have to get some of the money back. I hope you will understand our dilemma.

Paula Rennings the maker.