Turkey-Armenia relations more 'important' than 'genocide' law

[Karanistik]

@Khachakirner TURKS ARENT BARBARİANS CUZ YOU SCARED OF ISLAM

[BayAreaOrBust]

The two countries should be allies and forget history goddamn it!

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@BayAreaOrBust Being allies - okay. Forgetting? No. Do you know what the young Turks did in the 20th century? They destroyed EVERYTHING, and the Turkish government still hasn't done restitution. Because of this my people have to live in poverty. Do you really think we just can "forget" that?

[jeahdude37]

@MrRAMMSTEINER95 your ancestors rebelled against turks and sided with russia+eu countries.thats why u have been deported.stop whining.

do you ever see a turk whining to eu nations or russia?eu nations and russia attacked from all sides to exterminate all turkish population,they killed many unarmed turkish civilians,raped women and looted.

only you armenians whining and cant get over it coz you are capable of nothing but propagand and whining.pathetic armenians

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 No, no, no. They asked for equality in Eastern Turkey in 1899.

And when the Turks attacked Armenia, Russia helped Armenia.

Yeah, I see how many Turks are like "Why can't we get in the EU?". And you should know why Turkey won't get included in the EU, not jkust because of the genocides, but also because of other thinks you should know.

[jeahdude37]

@MrRAMMSTEINER95 they asked for equality?in those years many people around the world asked for equality and killed by dominant government.these murders did not exist only in ottoman empire but all around the world but you only blame turks about 'human rights'.whole world adopted equality in time.

also armenians did not ask for equality they asked for independance.in ottoman empire armenians always had more priveleges than other minorities.they paid less taxes than any other foreigners

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 So, you're trying to judge me, though you don't have any knowledge about these things? Interesting.

And following your statement, it's unimportant that the Turks killed 200 000 Armenians in 1899.

And no, they asked for EQUALITY. They paid MORE taxes, and got opressed because they were christian (and for other reasons).

Yes, one day, rich people who were armenian formed a society.

[jeahdude37]

@MrRAMMSTEINER95 there were also armenian officers,governors in the empire.armenians were rich people in ottomans and you think they were asking for EQUALITYY?

''Yeah, I see how many Turks are like "Why can't we get in the EU?".'' are you sure about this?turks do not want to join EU.it is only our government and businessmen who wants to join and the only reasons is MONEY.we turks do not care about EU and dont want to join.how can u think that we want to join a union who hate us deeply?

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 But what's the thing that makes you think it would be stupid to ask for equality when there are armenian officers etc.? I mean, during WW I, Armenians fought on BOTH sides.

That's a lie. A lot of Turks want to join the EU, so don't tell me no one wants this.

So? Then say/write European countries, then noone will misunderstand.

When did "Russia + 5 eu ountries" attack Turkey? And when shall that have happened? That's not true.

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 "eu nations and russia attacked from all sides to exterminate all turkish population" You know that the EU didn't even exist during WW II. Or do you mean in modern times?

Maybe Russia attacked Turkey during the wars, and also other countries. But remember, Turkey isn't innocent, they did many terrbible things as well.

I'm not "whining", I am sad about the things that happened, and angry about the Turkish government that still denies what they did.

[jeahdude37]

@MrRAMMSTEINER95 i said EU nations+russia.i didnt mean european union,i meant 'european countries' got it?is it so hard to understand?EU countries=european countries

russia+5 eu countries attacked turkey as well as their colonies and they wanted to extermiante all turkish population in anatolia which is an attempt of genocide!but you dont admit it as a genocide coz u are so biased.we turks never say that we are pure innocent and angels we did bad things for centuries like any other nations

[jeahdude37]

@MrRAMMSTEINER95 turkey was not innocent but also england,france,germany....were not innocent as well.all those countries commited crimes against people but you only mention what turks did coz u are biased.we never say turks are innocent and pure angels,it is you armenians who claims that you are innocent and angels.

many countries attacked as one to turks but we do not say that they tried to commit genocide.we dont whine,it was a war whole world was fighting but things have changed.get over it

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 But what's the thing that makes you think it would be stupid to ask for equality when there are armenian officers etc.? I mean, during WW I, Armenians fought on BOTH sides.

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 Many Turks say there wasn't a genocide against Armenians, but there was one from armenia against turks, they say.

And I did not forget what other countries did. They also did crimes against humanity. For example Germany: They helped the Turks out by giving them weapons. And they could have stopped this, but they didn’t.

And of course the jewish holocaust, and how they killed Poles.

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 But I didn’t mention these things (jewish holocaust etc.) because they are not relevant in this conversation. THIS about the Armenian genocide and what else happened between Turkey and Armenia during WWI

And even if Armenians may have killed “innocent Turks” without any reason – which they did not – it’s still no justified response if they commit a genocide.

Armenia didn’t even START to “attack” the Ottoman empire.

[jeahdude37]

@MrRAMMSTEINER95 armenians rebelled for independance,sided with russians,killed innocent turks and in response they have been deported.you failed to defeat ottomans and now you are WHINING.so childish and pathetic.

turkish government never deny that armenians deported and died during deportation.we deny the claims 'turks tried to annihliate armenians from history'.we deported them to save empire from collapsing.you only whine and exaggerating the events as genocide.

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 Either way, that's a lie.

And may I remind you the earthquake in Van last year? A lot of Turkish people became homeless, and what did my people in Armenia do? They HELPED them at once!

And what did the Azeris and Turks do after the earthquake in Spitak? They LAUGHED about the victims and didn't give a fuck about our loss. And you call us pathetic and propaganding, and whining? Something seems to be wrong with you.

[jeahdude37]

@MrRAMMSTEINER95 i do not have any knowledge about the earthquake events.what armenians did or turks did but i do not believe that turks laughed when armenians died from earthquake.if some turks did i will not defend them but also you can not generalise all turks like that.maybe some armenians also laughed turks when earthquakes occured but i do not generalise all armenians like that.

your claims about so-called genocide is what i call as ''propagand'' not the earthquake or any other thing.

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 It would’ve been stupid, since Armenia is a small country and Turks had more and better weapons from Germans.

And mourning about a big loss is neither “childish” nor “pathetic”. If you really thought so, you were a big asshole. But I don’t believe that you really think so.

Yes, of course the Turkish gov. (and a lot of Turks) deny these deportations. And they DID want to “erase” the Armenian race. They almost did, but at the battle of Sardarapat, they failed.

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 So you don’t know what happened in Van, respectively in Spitak? Very sad.

Yes, they DID laugh about the loss of Armenians. Maybe some Armenians also laughed about the earthquake victims in Turkey, but 1) Spitak had more losses, and 2) Armenians at least helped the Turks, which the Turks didn’t in Spitak.

And I didn’t say that every single turk laughed about what happened.

I ment the genocide, not Spitak. And why do you call it propagate, if it’s just the truth?

[MrRAMMSTEINER95]

@jeahdude37 I’ts more like your ancestors propagate their “truth”.

[TheTurkishFalcon]

@Khachakirner BUT YOU DID CHANGE THE SUBJECT! you started talkıng about countrıes that deserve freedom! and ı was raısed ın amerıca so THERE IS NO TURKISH PROPOGANDA IN ME! everythıng ı know ıs from Englısh hıstory books and no Im glad we dıdnt change we are Blood thırsty but thats who we are and ıd rather be that way rather than be walked all over by you armenıans or the greeks or anyone else and no ıf turkey dıd commıt a genocıde ıt would only be one and thats armenıans no Greeks or what ever

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[TheTurkishFalcon]

@Khachakirner you are changıng the subjuct but ı wıll stıll answer and no not all people should have theır natıons look at the kurds they made the genocıde on Armenınns blamed them on the Turks and now they are terrorısıng the turks and kıllıng ınnocent people and there ıs Turkısh people ın chına and they are doıng terrorıst acts to make a Country there and ım agaınts ıt because they are doıng ıt all wrong! Kosovo ım for ıt they are askıng and not terrorısıng

[levonet33]

There is a law very simular to the Armenian Genocide in France and Germany so turks should not be surprised.Turks has killed millions of Christians during the ottoman empire, there are tons of documents by thousends of people a regarding turkish atrocity over their mass killing of greeks,armenians,bulgarians,su­rbs,jews et.c.The koran teaches killing of infidels and their families.

[TheTurkishFalcon]

@Khachakirner See armenıans forget the thırd party the KURDS! they always wanted a Free kurdıstan what best way to use armenıans agaınts us

[TheTurkishFalcon]

@Khachakirner can ı ask you somethıng what about the Mıllıons of Turks that dıed durıng our revolutınary war? we were almost wıped out only 2 mıllıon turks left at the end of our revolutıon do we say ıts genocıde? no because ıts war and your country was ın that WAR!

[TheTurkishFalcon]

@Khachakirner see ı would accept the genocıde exept the fact that you guys make ıt a huge deal we are talkıng about a Armenıan genocıde and you brıng about the Greeks Assyrıans ! THOSE NEVER HAPPENED! but maybe the Armenıan one dıd and no we are not doıng a Genocıde on the Kurds But we are kıllıng the PKK TERRORISTS THAT ARE KURDISH! and Israel ıs already doıng a genocıde and Turkey has nothıng to do wıth ıt we sent shıps to gaza well guess what the Natıve amerıcans lıvıed ın amerıca but now who

[idontfkinknow1234]

lol fucking Armenians need to stop crying. You're never going to get any land from Turkey. Get it? NEVER. Why don't you all shut the fuck up about the "genocide" and try to have friendly relations with Turkey so maybe Turkey can open their borders and trade with your country so you're not all starving over there?

[erdal0]

@Keled5353 not really. you are talking bullshit and fairytales. Armenians only made up of 15 % in east turkey but they wanted to claim that land for themselves. They failed and lost. Sorry but who bets shouldnt cry when he looses.

[TheTurkishFalcon]

@Keled5353 we dıd no make a genocıde and ıf there was one ıt was my the ottomans no the Turks of the republıc of Turkey,and we fought ın a revolutıon agaınts armenıans Russıans french brıts greeks and ıtalıans and amerıcans and we won the revolutıon how dıd we steal the land?

[fya111]

Dear Turks simply accept the Genocide fact and live in peas.

Lying, hiding historical facts, deceiving your people makes difficult your and others life.

[pashedmotatos]

Fuck the Turks !

[Reqrezentin]

Armenians in Armenia are being screwed by their diaspora.

[erdal0]

Let the turk hating begin.. guess what? we dont give a shit. We know what the armenians did to us. Armenians betrayed the turks.