Wow, she did great on this, the singing and the acting! She sang freely, while keeping it under control, as many singers fail to do with this role. <3 her.
truth is until you learn to appreciate singers with all their glory and also their flaws you will never enjoy the full package of Opera.... a perfect singer comes but once in a century... but in the mean time we do get singers who strive for perfection and we love them for that.... callas once said "even from the least talented of artists, one can learn something"... personaly i love fleming and i think this was spot on!.. and im not comparing her to anyone
That made me feel that, she got the inspiration from Carol Vaness way TOO much and in the wrong way ( not for the audience I kinda enjoyed listening, but for her voice).
I don't mind the vibrato all that much but she could have acted a bit stronger in the second part of the aria - more dramatics (well - that's what I like to see....)
I don't like Fleming as Anna. I prefer a more dramatic voice that can also be lyric like Edda Moser, a dramatic coloratura. Fleming sings the role in a very boring way. She has no coloratura in the "Forse un giorno il cielo" after the Non Mi Dir. This aria for instance has to be di bravura and she is terrible here, resorting to scoops and such. She is better singing the Countess in Figaro. For Dona Ana, listen to Leontyne Price, Moser, Orgonasova and Tomowa-Sintow.
René F sjunger inte bara sin Rene Fleming- roll utan kommer in i Mozarts Donna Anna - detta är en helt magnifik tolkning. Tack för denna enastående goda tolkning!!
Donna Anna has to be played angry. By the time she gets to this aria, she wants to feed Don Giovanni his liver through his ear, and she wants Ottavio to take care of it for her.
I don't think she's a boring character. Now Ottavio--HE is boring, a posturing, pompous ass who's primarily concerned with how he can score points with Anna.
What has this woman done to destroy her voice? Where is the resonance? Why does she sound as if she is singing through mud. Why is every sound stuck in her throat, and why does she over darken everything that she sings? And why does the world love this bad, bad singing? Please listen to Ljuba Welitsch or Lisa della Casa do this aria. Renee needs to relearn how to sing. What she is doing is throat damage.
Remember it's high fashion to hate americans right now. Renee could sing this to absolute and utter perfection, but the fact that she's american, her detractors would make something up.
One of the beautiful things about performance is that the music can be interpreted in countless ways. There are singers who can sing with beautiful tone in perfect rhythm, but then Donna Anna becomes nothing more than a zombie, droning on about how she pines for revenge. Flemings interpretation is brilliant, and people who say otherwise are staunch and old fashioned. If there were only one way to sing an aria , there would be no reason to see anyone but Vaness sing this
and of course, Vaness' interpretation is perfect and beautiful, but eventually the music would become boring if you only listened to it one way. In the same way that a grilled cheese would become repulsive if it was all you ate every day.
By over-interpreting the aria, Flemming loses dramatic momentum. The score is not meant to be pulled out of shape so much by excessive rubati. Donna Anna is fuming and desperate for revenge. At times, Flemming looks like she is playing Carmen, not Donna Anna! For the full force of Donna Anna's emotion, try the live Sutherland performance from the Met.
Sutherland sang a great Donna Anna but she hated the character. She said that Donna Anna was boring to play. Although I love the way Sutherland sang Donna Anna, her characterization left a lot to be desired and that is because she sang it by the book. Fleming takes risks with her performance and tries to make Donna Anna into something more than a one dimensional character.
I recently uploaded this scene/aria with Cheryl Studer and Frank Lopardo from La Scala, Muti conducting (audio-only). It was taped from the audience so the sound quality is poor and recessed. But listen to Studer's abandon. She was truly mad in this. Visit my channel to hear it. Be forwarned, it's NOT recommended for the faint-of-heart.
Лучшая Донна Анна,удивительно справляется с такой драматической партией,все продыхом,потрясающе музыкально,нигде не крикнет,все свободно,Беспредельное дыхание и голосовые возможности невероятные!!!
throw an ear on the side of Sutherland. Not not not and still not. Forget the image and leave that the sound and you will hear... Fleming is unbearable besides.... in this role the public....
era talmente brava che qualunque cosa cantasse non le stava bene....sembra un paradosso ma l'ho sentita anni fa alla Scala e pur in tutto il suo splendore non entrava in nessun ruolo.
The Met, well, I'm going to hold off commenting until I know whether or not they're hiring me!
I like Flemming singing this, but LOVED her Rusalka in...'05? '06? Man, beautiful production, great singing, Willard White as the bass. Her Song to the Moon was inhumanly good. I do NOT like how she's singing these days, though, and Rodalinda was absurd- John Relyea and Stephanie Blythe showed her up somethin fierce!
I have to agree this isn't an aria for Flemming. She has too much glottal dramatic onsets and it's really distracting. She is a bit OTT as well which is again, off putting.
Well... saw it again and I take back what I said. Not exactly the kind of Donna Anna that I like but it was well sung and she sings well. A little too much portamento but anyway well sung. I wonder why I said that. Whatever!
i'm always bewildered when people say the met is doing well and singers are all great. i've watched them go from fabulous in the 70s to less much less so today. so i'm just curious why someone thinks they're doing well. please, explain that to me.. and try not to make it a personal attack on my or anyone else with a teensey bit of experience. the pbs tv macbeth was great? u thought the way they blasted luciano when he tried to retire was great. their singers are the best in the world?
my following post is not meant to insult or bring on an arguement, but rather i can't understand when people say the met is doing well... so lets not get insulting and personal. i've been arond the met for over 37 years, know dozens of people who work there currently and in the past, have roamed the back halls and rehearsed in every rehearsal room... have sung a lot of the italian repretoire in one voice catagory in usa and europe. no i'm not saying i'm great, just a teeny bit experienced.
anyone who thinks the met knows what they're doing today can't be reasoned with. case in point the rufus wainwright debacle. if that needs explaining i can't be of any help.. they can't do a verdi opera to save their soul, have no dramatic voices, have fallen way down the food chain and anybody who really understands anything knows that
how many times have you been there personally and live? have you worked there? who are your favorite singers you think are so great singing there today?
This 90's Don Giovanni at the Met was televised on PBS. Renee Fleming does not have the right kind of voice for Dona Ana. Her best Mozart role was always the Countess in Figaro or Fiordiligi from Cosi. Dona Ana calls for a more dramatic even lyrico-spinto voice. To my ears the best Anas are Leontyne Price, Edda Moser and Anna Tomowa Sintow. Here, Fleming is over-the-top and melodramatic.
definiteyly not renees best day. if you can't hear it i can't help you. whoever made the price comment nailed it. great. i also think vaness is much better
Kitschy staging. Terrible costume design (especially Anna's small hat...). Camp at its worst.
And the lighting is one of the worst I've ever seen. Looks like a rehearsal, not an actual performance.
Were the singers directed by anyone? They seem to merely concentrate on their singing but not having any clue about what they are performing. Totally superficial.
Gorgeous voice; too much nuance; not enough just stand still and sing the Mozart when the aria came. Leontyne Price laid this aria to rest at the Met in the 70s. They are still there applauding....
Good preformance! But I think Paul Groves can do a better tenor voice, but I like it very much. Renee is also very good! (But I like more the preformance of Alfredo Kraus in 1970, with Carlo Maria G.) PSK
I was fortunate to attend this performance. It took place in NYC. If my memory does not fail, the date is October 2000. Fleming, Terfel and Furlanetto were magnificent, and the rest of the cast was very good.
Renee is fabulous, I sat front row at a recital, nice power and stage presents. Yes she made me tear up. My favorite in this role is Birgit Nilsson, she was power house, but she nailed this role.
My favorite(s) in this role are the Canadian Soprano Adrianne Pieczonka (who recorded it for Halsaz and Muti) and the American soprano Dominique Labelle (who recrded it with director Peter Sellars.)
Krassimira Stoyanova was also great. Her "Or sai" was a little too big for her voice, but her "Non mi dir" was just sublime. I agree with a random NY Times review comment that her B-flat in the recit beforehand was the most beautiful ever. And yes, this is not the role for Renee. She's too much in love with her own voice, and not the music.
Fleming typically does arias slower than normal. It's funny to go down a list of arias in iTunes or something and see that her rendition versus other sopranos' is always the longest and generally by a large amount, but I think that's a testament to her incredible facility with breath control and line - the versions never really seem "long," and that's because she can keep the line moving forward and spinning. It never lies flat and stagnant.
Brava! I agree with the tempo comment - much too slow in parts, but I'm pretty sure that was Levine's choice. That is a bitch of an aria, and it's very impressive that she could sing it at that slower tempo.
I just want to add that after watching and listening to this aria performed by others, Renee performance, in comparison is hindered by too much acting. I like her performance because it's different, but like I said before she does it really slow, but I see now that she's so slow because she's trying to act out every emotion.
this is how Mozart should be sung. and this rendition isn't that slow. the score doesn't "presto". it says "allergo agigato" or, "an agitated fast tempo". also, all opera should be sung with clear diction, like so.
Wow, back before she completely ruined her voice...
geschreiben 2 weeks ago
assalitrice ed assallita?
PeerGyntTheOnion 3 months ago
Wow, she did great on this, the singing and the acting! She sang freely, while keeping it under control, as many singers fail to do with this role. <3 her.
wishingonthemoon1 3 months ago
truth is until you learn to appreciate singers with all their glory and also their flaws you will never enjoy the full package of Opera.... a perfect singer comes but once in a century... but in the mean time we do get singers who strive for perfection and we love them for that.... callas once said "even from the least talented of artists, one can learn something"... personaly i love fleming and i think this was spot on!.. and im not comparing her to anyone
CallasAfrica 3 months ago
What year is this production? 2000s?
scazzasofija 4 months ago
@scazzasofija I think it's 2000 specifically
geschreiben 2 weeks ago
demasiadas licencias con el tempo
melisandedebussy 8 months ago
holy shit her acting during the coda is genius. watch how she gives that little glance in-synch with the very last bar of this piece.
thesir27 11 months ago 3
I didn't like Fleming on Donna Anna, it was too.... romantic maybe!
arash2002art 1 year ago
6 months ago i never thought i'd be listening to this. now opera singing sounds completely normal to me
thesir27 1 year ago
That made me feel that, she got the inspiration from Carol Vaness way TOO much and in the wrong way ( not for the audience I kinda enjoyed listening, but for her voice).
Lweoira 1 year ago
Very very amotional! Very solid voice Renee has! I love her and she is one of the best singers nowadays!
royksopp21 1 year ago
very emotional!
royksopp21 1 year ago
I don't mind the vibrato all that much but she could have acted a bit stronger in the second part of the aria - more dramatics (well - that's what I like to see....)
Smile6784 1 year ago
her vibrato is too strong in the or sai chi l'onore section, she sounds like a sheep on the lower notes. but the higher register is exquisite
jrr1234567890 1 year ago
i heart her
TheEmmaDarling 1 year ago 2
I don't like Fleming as Anna. I prefer a more dramatic voice that can also be lyric like Edda Moser, a dramatic coloratura. Fleming sings the role in a very boring way. She has no coloratura in the "Forse un giorno il cielo" after the Non Mi Dir. This aria for instance has to be di bravura and she is terrible here, resorting to scoops and such. She is better singing the Countess in Figaro. For Dona Ana, listen to Leontyne Price, Moser, Orgonasova and Tomowa-Sintow.
AmericanEvita 1 year ago 2
he sounds sick in this recording.
tenorfourlife 1 year ago
René F sjunger inte bara sin Rene Fleming- roll utan kommer in i Mozarts Donna Anna - detta är en helt magnifik tolkning. Tack för denna enastående goda tolkning!!
Herodopost.
herodopost 1 year ago
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Ja, hon är otrolig bra här !
ManricoV 1 year ago
she sings this well i think
mtenor 2 years ago 2
Perhaps it's because of the dark setting and the costumes - the whole scene makes me thinking of Fidelio; not to mention the music!
lehar 2 years ago
Brava!!!
DrGarri 2 years ago 2
Donna Anna has to be played angry. By the time she gets to this aria, she wants to feed Don Giovanni his liver through his ear, and she wants Ottavio to take care of it for her.
I don't think she's a boring character. Now Ottavio--HE is boring, a posturing, pompous ass who's primarily concerned with how he can score points with Anna.
Kenchely 2 years ago 7
Honestly her portrayal is the one of the few that makes Anna interesting. I give major kudos for not creating yet another insipid ho-hum Anna.
ashkay369 2 years ago 2
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I've never liked Fleming doing Mozart, she makes this too romantic , at least she's not snail sliding all over the place!!
Rattywotin 2 years ago
Probablement une des meilleures Anna.
isabelle070209 2 years ago
What has this woman done to destroy her voice? Where is the resonance? Why does she sound as if she is singing through mud. Why is every sound stuck in her throat, and why does she over darken everything that she sings? And why does the world love this bad, bad singing? Please listen to Ljuba Welitsch or Lisa della Casa do this aria. Renee needs to relearn how to sing. What she is doing is throat damage.
Schwertleiter 2 years ago
You just have to face it, time pass, tastes change, and now we all love the way Fleming sings! Its just a fact!
valerotti 2 years ago
considering this was nine years ago and she's still singing as much as ever, i think you might be wrong about that...
minirausch 2 years ago
rediculous to write that it's high fashion to hate americans!
DannyDoc1981 2 years ago
Remember it's high fashion to hate americans right now. Renee could sing this to absolute and utter perfection, but the fact that she's american, her detractors would make something up.
blakebunyard 2 years ago
I LOVE IT she is black on the inside i know it
johngarner3 2 years ago 14
maybe it is a little melodramatic..but how can you deny that rich and gorgeous tone on the High A's. So creamy
musoph21 2 years ago 2
There is no such thing as melodramatic in opera, haha!
Ambargh 2 years ago 5
Fleming is a wonderful artist, but this is not her cup of tea. She would be better as Elvira. For comparison, see Grummer in the Furtwangler's video.
mltube 2 years ago
One of the beautiful things about performance is that the music can be interpreted in countless ways. There are singers who can sing with beautiful tone in perfect rhythm, but then Donna Anna becomes nothing more than a zombie, droning on about how she pines for revenge. Flemings interpretation is brilliant, and people who say otherwise are staunch and old fashioned. If there were only one way to sing an aria , there would be no reason to see anyone but Vaness sing this
jimmymartinezzz 2 years ago
and of course, Vaness' interpretation is perfect and beautiful, but eventually the music would become boring if you only listened to it one way. In the same way that a grilled cheese would become repulsive if it was all you ate every day.
jimmymartinezzz 2 years ago
By over-interpreting the aria, Flemming loses dramatic momentum. The score is not meant to be pulled out of shape so much by excessive rubati. Donna Anna is fuming and desperate for revenge. At times, Flemming looks like she is playing Carmen, not Donna Anna! For the full force of Donna Anna's emotion, try the live Sutherland performance from the Met.
vocalissimo1 2 years ago
whatever, fleming is great. i think you are over-interpreting the interpretation here.
OperaLover84 2 years ago
Sutherland sang a great Donna Anna but she hated the character. She said that Donna Anna was boring to play. Although I love the way Sutherland sang Donna Anna, her characterization left a lot to be desired and that is because she sang it by the book. Fleming takes risks with her performance and tries to make Donna Anna into something more than a one dimensional character.
asdfopera 2 years ago
I recently uploaded this scene/aria with Cheryl Studer and Frank Lopardo from La Scala, Muti conducting (audio-only). It was taped from the audience so the sound quality is poor and recessed. But listen to Studer's abandon. She was truly mad in this. Visit my channel to hear it. Be forwarned, it's NOT recommended for the faint-of-heart.
Scalatti 2 years ago
Лучшая Донна Анна,удивительно справляется с такой драматической партией,все продыхом,потрясающе музыкально,нигде не крикнет,все свободно,Беспредельное дыхание и голосовые возможности невероятные!!!
muzicista120 2 years ago
troppo verdiana...
carolinahermelina 2 years ago
I like her voice....but not the interpretation for some reason....
flouraki 3 years ago
She is stunning. Some might argue that she lacks the necessary range of vocalism for Mozart, but personally I think this is wonderful.
jimmymartinezzz 3 years ago
Gorgeous. She gives me chills.
reginathe1st 3 years ago 4
throw an ear on the side of Sutherland. Not not not and still not. Forget the image and leave that the sound and you will hear... Fleming is unbearable besides.... in this role the public....
marioj34 3 years ago
era talmente brava che qualunque cosa cantasse non le stava bene....sembra un paradosso ma l'ho sentita anni fa alla Scala e pur in tutto il suo splendore non entrava in nessun ruolo.
mah....
taurusbs 3 years ago
Oh, but seriously, this needs to not be so slow. I will say I almost always disagree with Levine's Mozart tempi.
lucyliesinashes 3 years ago
Hooray for Paul Groves :)
The Met, well, I'm going to hold off commenting until I know whether or not they're hiring me!
I like Flemming singing this, but LOVED her Rusalka in...'05? '06? Man, beautiful production, great singing, Willard White as the bass. Her Song to the Moon was inhumanly good. I do NOT like how she's singing these days, though, and Rodalinda was absurd- John Relyea and Stephanie Blythe showed her up somethin fierce!
lucyliesinashes 3 years ago
recitativo is ultimate
kazimierzmichalkiwic 3 years ago
I like her voice but this isn´t for her. Sorry... NO... NO... NO!
ezayi 3 years ago
I have to agree this isn't an aria for Flemming. She has too much glottal dramatic onsets and it's really distracting. She is a bit OTT as well which is again, off putting.
liamandsarah 3 years ago
Well... saw it again and I take back what I said. Not exactly the kind of Donna Anna that I like but it was well sung and she sings well. A little too much portamento but anyway well sung. I wonder why I said that. Whatever!
ezayi 3 years ago
Dear Nay Nay,
Please watch the Carol Vaness video of this same aria. kthanx
redbonemix84 3 years ago
who is the don ottavio?
ncrunch 3 years ago
Paul Groves
richardvergara 3 years ago
i'm always bewildered when people say the met is doing well and singers are all great. i've watched them go from fabulous in the 70s to less much less so today. so i'm just curious why someone thinks they're doing well. please, explain that to me.. and try not to make it a personal attack on my or anyone else with a teensey bit of experience. the pbs tv macbeth was great? u thought the way they blasted luciano when he tried to retire was great. their singers are the best in the world?
operacaster 3 years ago 5
my following post is not meant to insult or bring on an arguement, but rather i can't understand when people say the met is doing well... so lets not get insulting and personal. i've been arond the met for over 37 years, know dozens of people who work there currently and in the past, have roamed the back halls and rehearsed in every rehearsal room... have sung a lot of the italian repretoire in one voice catagory in usa and europe. no i'm not saying i'm great, just a teeny bit experienced.
operacaster 3 years ago 5
anyone who thinks the met knows what they're doing today can't be reasoned with. case in point the rufus wainwright debacle. if that needs explaining i can't be of any help.. they can't do a verdi opera to save their soul, have no dramatic voices, have fallen way down the food chain and anybody who really understands anything knows that
how many times have you been there personally and live? have you worked there? who are your favorite singers you think are so great singing there today?
operacaster 3 years ago 3
This 90's Don Giovanni at the Met was televised on PBS. Renee Fleming does not have the right kind of voice for Dona Ana. Her best Mozart role was always the Countess in Figaro or Fiordiligi from Cosi. Dona Ana calls for a more dramatic even lyrico-spinto voice. To my ears the best Anas are Leontyne Price, Edda Moser and Anna Tomowa Sintow. Here, Fleming is over-the-top and melodramatic.
AmericanEvita 3 years ago 3
It may look melodramatic from that close but I'm sure from the house it looked appropriate.
jimmymartinezzz 3 years ago
I LOVE RENEE FLEMING!!!!
noelaxx 4 years ago
definiteyly not renees best day. if you can't hear it i can't help you. whoever made the price comment nailed it. great. i also think vaness is much better
operacaster 4 years ago
I really do think the artistic staff at the Met knows who to cast in their opera. Maybe you would care to argue.
Fleming is brilliant.
jimmymartinezzz 3 years ago
Kitschy staging. Terrible costume design (especially Anna's small hat...). Camp at its worst.
And the lighting is one of the worst I've ever seen. Looks like a rehearsal, not an actual performance.
Were the singers directed by anyone? They seem to merely concentrate on their singing but not having any clue about what they are performing. Totally superficial.
jeanpierremelville 4 years ago
I agree. You're absolutely right!
AnneP1 4 years ago 2
I own this DVD...it is an amazong production...LOVE IT!!
tim3648 4 years ago
Great acting and singing.This is just amazing.
lty2k84 4 years ago
Gorgeous voice; too much nuance; not enough just stand still and sing the Mozart when the aria came. Leontyne Price laid this aria to rest at the Met in the 70s. They are still there applauding....
higharch 4 years ago 3
Amazing!! Does anyone know what year this was??
trekkie2006 4 years ago
2000
Nugnugs 4 years ago
bark bark abrk abark arkark akr that is all i hear going back to watch carol vaness do it right!
dynamicstuff73 4 years ago
you know nothing...
CHerbek 4 years ago
well you obviously dont know what your talking about if thats your oppinion
mtenor 4 years ago
Good preformance! But I think Paul Groves can do a better tenor voice, but I like it very much. Renee is also very good! (But I like more the preformance of Alfredo Kraus in 1970, with Carlo Maria G.) PSK
Pskmozart 4 years ago
I just think she's overacting in the "Ma qual s'offre, o Dei" scene, but everywhere else she's wonderful!
Selkaen 4 years ago
I was fortunate to attend this performance. It took place in NYC. If my memory does not fail, the date is October 2000. Fleming, Terfel and Furlanetto were magnificent, and the rest of the cast was very good.
Gibichung 4 years ago
I love her
gclef2288 4 years ago
Renee is fabulous, I sat front row at a recital, nice power and stage presents. Yes she made me tear up. My favorite in this role is Birgit Nilsson, she was power house, but she nailed this role.
bosbriguy 4 years ago
My favorite(s) in this role are the Canadian Soprano Adrianne Pieczonka (who recorded it for Halsaz and Muti) and the American soprano Dominique Labelle (who recrded it with director Peter Sellars.)
hillevifan 4 years ago
Krassimira Stoyanova was also great. Her "Or sai" was a little too big for her voice, but her "Non mi dir" was just sublime. I agree with a random NY Times review comment that her B-flat in the recit beforehand was the most beautiful ever. And yes, this is not the role for Renee. She's too much in love with her own voice, and not the music.
KatherineXIX 2 years ago
oh man, this was amazing. holy moly, renee is fantastic! Brava! Those "vendetta"s were insane! Brava!
iAMturandot 4 years ago
Simply amazing! Brava Renee!
CHerbek 4 years ago
I agree with you. Why does opera attract so many bitchy fans? Maybe Fleming is just too good an actress, singer - and too good looking after all!
owenboi66 4 years ago
just FYI this is the GIOVANNI that the MET does, with TERFEL and FLEMING, it's on DVD!
ravenboytx 4 years ago
when and were was this performed and who is conducting and who is he?
urs1765 4 years ago
Italians would like to have as clear a diction in their own language as this incredible singer!
DrGarri 4 years ago
She has a beautyful sound! She looks amazing! She's really good
PucciniTosca 4 years ago
Fleming typically does arias slower than normal. It's funny to go down a list of arias in iTunes or something and see that her rendition versus other sopranos' is always the longest and generally by a large amount, but I think that's a testament to her incredible facility with breath control and line - the versions never really seem "long," and that's because she can keep the line moving forward and spinning. It never lies flat and stagnant.
buddhasizedguy 5 years ago
Brava! I agree with the tempo comment - much too slow in parts, but I'm pretty sure that was Levine's choice. That is a bitch of an aria, and it's very impressive that she could sing it at that slower tempo.
DivaG81 5 years ago
she's wonderful. just... too realistic and lacking grandeur.
Pathetikos 5 years ago
Very powerful indeed, but much slower than I'm used to.
zacharybr 5 years ago
I just want to add that after watching and listening to this aria performed by others, Renee performance, in comparison is hindered by too much acting. I like her performance because it's different, but like I said before she does it really slow, but I see now that she's so slow because she's trying to act out every emotion.
zacharybr 5 years ago
I think she's slow because that's the tempo James Levine picked.
PhoenyxRider 5 years ago
maybe
zacharybr 5 years ago
this is how Mozart should be sung. and this rendition isn't that slow. the score doesn't "presto". it says "allergo agigato" or, "an agitated fast tempo". also, all opera should be sung with clear diction, like so.
josephlemon 5 years ago
The sing wrote for this aria is Andante. Alla breve.
zasnoucidivak 5 years ago
very very powerful.. oh.. BRAVA!!
divabmc 5 years ago