i support us troops and i always respect their decisions but is something I will never understand it wasn´t necessary and it could have done better Im sorry USA but you really fucked up this one
hey guys, is there anyone to write me that how is the situation in baghdat in this days ? is it safe ? are there still bombs or something ? can someone write me please ?
We invaded iraq killed a alot of iraqis,than we left them to rot without food or medical supplies thanks to economic sanctions and we wonder why they want to bomb our troops.If you had your car ran over with an m1 tank you would be pissed too,especially if you drove a taxi.
@the4LA2Baker0 pretty sure the english didn't relinquish influence or economic control till a bit after ghandi, and id just like to hear some one say how pacifism in the mid east could solve things, obviously being willing to die for the cause of non combatant peace wouldn't make a dent they blow themselves up "for" allaha they think they are fighting God's holy war, so u can not reach them morally. if Jesus didn't end the war in the mid east by example don't expect me to try.
im sorry war is part of the human condition, pacifism can't stop it alone millitary assistance is necessary, If you want peace prepare for war,Semper Fi
It actually might of been different with hitler in that the building of his own master race was not what he wanted to destroy and therefore a mass civil pacifist movement may have even had affect on him but maybe just maybe im giving that evil bastard a little too much credit and he'd of done anything to hold onto power no matter what. Your hearts in the right place but really naive if everyone were better people itll happen but until that day war will carry on and on
i choose a life of peace and understanding. my conscience does not permit me to be okay with the murder that is waged in our names for the sake of security, right or privilege. i have no enemies in life. i wish no pain upon anyone. i give all human beings the rights that i give myself. it is very simple when you wish to live in peace. things get complicated when you sacrifice your own conscience in order to ratify decisions of our leaders.
And the whole nation of germany rising up against hitler during ww2 by refusing to fight ?...people are selfish if everyone was altruistic sure maybe it would happen but the fear of death and prolonging your own life comes before everything else. Hitler would of crushed any civil uprising and brought them to order very quickly. Of course its a good thing that people do oppose assholes like that but getting millions of people to do it all at once is easier said than done.
Thats a gandi qoute and gandi was a pacifist, to be honest im really glad countries have the guts to stand up to dictators with force, if they didnt hell i might not even of been born and my family might have been wiped out for maybe not being aryan enough or maybe id be speaking german and goosestepping everywhere?..who knows. Anyway saddam died and thats a good thing, pacifism may have worked in india and the partition but people still died en masse during that, but it wont work against...
pacifism would have stopped Hitler if his citizens would have refused to fight. justifying illegal and unwanted foreign occupation is what the Nazis did, and which our country is doing now. as Albert Einstein said;" we will see a war-less world when men refuse to fight."
pacifism is the answer, all sides must choose to not kill and die for frivolous reasons, we must learn to not repeat the same mistakes over and over, this is called sanity. violence is not the answer. preemptive wars are not the answer, occupation is not the answer. peace cannot be enforced by gun, knife or bomb. only those who profit from war allow it to flourish.
furthermore, i urge you to think for yourself and not parrot a speech you heard. being able to recite almost word for word a speech that was almost entirely false, a speech that would have made Hitler himself proud, is not proof of your intellectual ability, it proves intellectual inability. the inability to hold our leaders at the same bar we do everyone else. hold your views, beliefs and convictions to the same standard, and i will bet they will fall like a deck of cards.
I do think for myself and i resent the implication that you think i dont just because im rehashing beliefs that have been said before, guess what your beliefs have been said before so i could call you a parrot too. I do believe them though and i have thought about it. Likewise sure pacifism would work if everyone practices it but the point is not everyone does....
sorry i came across in a condescending manner. i truly did not mean for that implacation. good luck in your quest for understanding. " there are always excuses for violence, never for peace." bertrand russell
Its sad that Iraq is like this, but its not fair that you paint Shia as bad people.. you have to understand that Saddam used to do this to the Shia for 20 years - mass killings and unmarked graves.. im not saying they are justified in killing pple now, but its not fair just to paint them as evil people.
HMM this IS A copy of a video just posted 1 hour ago and now can't view because its private now. Same people different stories . Witness - Baghdad City of Walls - 5 April 09 - Part 1 This video just posted same thing different name and stories.
but that is not right ,its not just shia muslim how kills sunni,ther is mor shia how have bin killd by sunni and ther hoe kaled ansar al sunna they was and are killer now
Oh My God! That feild full of unmarked graves and peices of metal or anything. That's my city. I lost so many to it. I wish I can do something. But I'm so helpless.
The real indifference is from the press who are not adequately covering the damage of the war. To cover it would be to provide respect for the soldiers who are putting themselves in danger, as well as the innocent who are losing their lives. For a little of the truth watch Buddahead2009's END RELIGION video.
I think that the narrator is very fluent and touches upon the great tragedy of this war. The Iraqis have suffered and been through many tribulations for many years now. There is no doubt that my country's invasion and occupation are responsible for igniting a vast wave of violence that has at times run out of control. However, I cannot accept that the United States is responsible for the deaths of most of the Iraqi dead. These people died because other Muslims DECIDED that murder was an option.
rubbish, there have been even more iraqis died since the invasion than before. If America have made a bigger mess of the place than Sadam, they must be incompetent in the extreme.
oh yes, in that case i agree. When America leave, lets hope we can finaly see some real order and prosperity for Iraq, as well as the old cultures bloosom, it is possible. But what is going on at the pakistani borders, with carpet bommbing of many innnocent border tribes, really does not help the region. With economic collapose in the US now, i think soon we will see this kind of thing stop, maybe.
it's not a matter of incompetence it's a matter of indifference. Not once have the civilian casualites in Iraq been mentioned during this election. Most people don't care and those that do would be branded unamerican for saying as much.
I'm a former US Soldier with PTSD, when I brought up the dead civilians in counseling I was asked why their deaths bothered me more than my comrades. The question was ridiculous to me; we volunteered to live with war, the civilians did not.
you talkin in the wrong place lol, its not like American people give a flying fuck about Iraq and so on. You been cutting each others heads off for the past 3000 years and thats where I see you for another 3. The government dont give a fuck about your democracy, they only see an opportunity to make money and thats the sad part. Dont blame American people, blame governments. Never seen American people protest against war?
"you talkin in the wrong place lol" over all the sad part that u think yourself the humanity rescuer and u r above all pepole in earth, and ur democracy now became dictatorship as ur comment show, hehehehe
It's part of the spirit of the nation, to spread the light to rest of the world: rule by the people is not only possible but also preferable to other forms. John Winthrop, founder of Mass. Bay Colony in 1629 AD had such a vision, a vision shared by Ronald Reagan, 40th president of the U.S.A. The ironic thing is that the free and peaceful people of the United States are more likely to feel chagrin, even deep regret and sadness, about the mistakes our elected leaders have made than unfree peoples.
It's part of the spirit of the nation, to spread the light to rest of the world,lol USA foreigner affairs spokeman, ur light is destroyed iraqi pepole, more than million popole diad and the country & pepole become on of the poorest in earth and u stealing the petrol & money, I can write better than u but my english is not that ok, specially in hestory
Vote 3rd party & Independent, show the world we Americans will hold accountable and kick out the 2 party sociopath DC Mafia government responsible for this heinous unforgivable insult to humanity.
Otherwise if we the people REWARD & endorse their abhorrent deadly behavior by keeping them in power, sorry to say, I don't see the haters & killers having much sympathy for us as a whole.
@Veteran4Peace How are we to blame? These people will always kill each other no matter what. It was always like that and it will always be like that. There is no peace in the middle east.
very powerful video. The illegal US invasion and occupation of Iraq is responsible for the carnage, destruction, and death we see in Iraq today. The occupation needs to end now. The US should withdraw all the soldiers, contractors and dismantle the military bases. Iraqis can then pick up the pieces, reconcile, and rebuild their own country without foreign interference of any kind.
I don't know what rock you just crawled out under, but it appears that your drugs are kicking in big time. Your dilusional understanding of the world is sad indeed. Don't know what your drug-endused fantasy is trying to say, but I can tell that you have virtually no grasp of reality.
I advise you to consider Koro's words very carefully. It shows a growing desire in the US to avoid responsibility for their actions. More and more Americans are pretending that what is going on is no longer their fault. Americans started the wars, but they see now that they can't finish them (a la Vietnam) so they seek to blame others around the world for what they started. You would be wise to hold their feet to the fire and force them to pay for what they started. It's their fault.
It is absolutely our fault... in Iraq... It was a corrupt and disgusting war to start, and I'm ashamed of it. It's of course not the responsibility of the people killing each other to stop, whenever a muslim kills another muslim, it's always someone else's fault. You should listen to those words carefully.
hmmmm, interesting. I would have thought you would have cited Theodor Herzl, but then you probably don't even know who he is. Your words are hateful and show your bias, "whenever a muslim kills a muslim..." Those are your words alone, and it shows how much you hate. You should stop hating so much and see life as it truly is. Your blind hatred of Muslims is keeping you from seeing the truth. You know very little, yet you hate a lot. Just another lost soul of hatred.
You know next to nothing, yet you have enough hate for a thousand souls. Your venimous answers betray you. Ignorance only breeds hate and contempt. We are ALL His children. You are a lost soul peering into the darkness and despising your own ignorance. Find the truth. Accept that we are all His children and none are favorites. Don't write about what you have no knowledge of. Learn before you attempt to teach others.
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hahaha who is He? did your dad fool around with my mom? that son of a BITCH! listen man, that SOB owes me some birthday cards with 20's taped to the inside. until he does that, i'm not his child.
Wrong. Back to class. It was ALL part of the Ottoman Empire. France and GB divided it all up (spoils of war). Now YOU say, "Why blame the US for their fighting." Uh, the answer is, "Because we caused it." You don't send a bull into a China shop and then say, "Hey, I didn't do it. The bull did it. I just sent him in there."
WE started the Iraq War. You obviously have amnesia. You apparently know very little about the world. The US invades and you say, "don't blame us."
My main issue is where is the leadership in the Muslim world? Why are there no mass protests of violence between Muslims? Why is Qatar and Kuwait thriving and investing their wealth into their future while Saudi Arabia and Syria sponsor the murder of innocent Iraqis, Lebanese and Palestinians?
...in my eyes all the leaders ships in the Arabian peninsula are jerks, they are as far as any system could be from democracy, and worst of all they came to power through the British mandate in the former ottoman territories.
the leaders ships in the Arabian peninsula are jerks, but like the jerks in china and russia the world economy needs them!!
they did came to power through the British mandate but mostly through tribal alliances, but the gulf countries were never considered ottoman territory..only the Levant and the Hijaz area were occupied by the turks.
...there have been more jerks in the whitehouse than in the Kremlin. As for the Chines, how many wars have they started? How many people have they murdered as a direct result of their foreign policy? And most important of all, have they ever murdered civilians with a nuclear weapon?
agentoxide: I am not sure how you can say that Saddam Hussein was not in control of Iraq since the 70's. Yes, you don't have to tell me that the United States (and Great Britain, and France, and Canada) and most of the free world all backed Saddam Hussein for oil and anti-Soviet reasons, whether or not he was true to the Nazi-influenced politics of national socialism ad Baathism is a semantical argument to me. As for the rest of your reasoning for not invading Iraq I agree completely.
You wrote this: "it's still amusing to me that America is being blamed for muslims killing one another. We really, really would like you all to stop doing that, and yet it's our fault."
Lemme see, just because the US invaded iraq illegally, turned it into a lawless jungle by firing the ENTIRE government, you feel that it's not our fault. Amazing. Now who invaded who? Who fired the government and let the criminals free?? I really would like you all to wake up and smell the coffee.
I didn't say I approved of the invasion or the way it happened. It's just interesting to me how the activism coming from the Muslim world is not in the form of protest or organization. The Saudis, Iranians and Syrians didn't want there to be a Kurdish state. That's not very nice. The reason they don't want a Kurdish state is because they want to control their interests in Iraq. That has nothing to do with us. Iraq used to be part of Syria, part of it was part of Iran, they want it back.
the reason there is no kurdish state b/c the Brits and the french wouldn't allow it in the beginning of the century. they drew most of the borders that survived till this day and they didn't care to give the kurds their own state, unlike the christains and the jews of the region who were granted states(lebanon and israel)
..yes that is a sad fact, that the boundaries in some places where "drawn up" ( with a ruler). But this justify the fact that the US has probebly killed more civilians as a direct/indirect result of its foreign policy than any other nation on the planet.
That was the beginning of the century. As in last century. Now it's the Turks and the Syrians. As soon as the British left Kurdistan, the Kurds engaged in a massacre. None of you seem to get off the imperial blame game. Yes, Americans are trying to force oil contracts down the throats of Iraqis. You blame the media for not covering peace protests. Can you link me to an assembly of 500,000 muslims that were not accompanied by chants of death to x or y or z?
You misunderstand, and you've extrapolated quite a heavy accusation out of my question. What did the million man march achieve on Washington DC? What did the civil rights movement achieve? Islam is under attack from the media, it's true, but there is not a coordinated effort among "moderate" Muslims to seriously acknowledge the problems of their own way of dealing with conflict. Arguably this is because of the Iraq war and the terrible things that have gone on there in the name of my country.
Before the invasion, Egypt was addressing the sins of the Muslim Brotherhood on its own, that is also true. After 9-11, my mother, a Catholic, organized other Christians to surround mosques to prevent them from being attacked by reactionaries and racists. I would like to see Muslims organize protests against their own governments. Peaceful protests. Protests without the call to arms, or death. These would be more effective in bringing peace and secular acceptance to the muslim world.
and did your mothers efforts been televised internationally? my guess in no...but that didn't prevent me from realizing that not all Christians are war-mongering crusaders!!
the White House has been occupied for decades by buncha Christian fundamentalist that are prayin daily for the rapture..and frankly i don't see any major protect in the U.S either denounce the fact that we've been on nuclear alert since 9/11 or the fact that the constitution is being pissed on my the president
moderate Muslims??? you are using a typical post-911 vocabulary..i would refrain from that.besides u answered my question with two irrelevant questions?!?!
anyways...you seem to talk about islam as if muslims are a monolithic group when in fact Islam is decentralized religion that encompass lots of schools of thought..it's nearly impossible for all Muslims to agree on almost everything
...Of course this promise was broken, as we are still friends with the Sauds, and we are working with terrorists to wipe out other terrorists. That's the only reason why there is a relative peace. As soon as the United States backs away, Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia will begin backing their relative groups in Iraq, it will make its oil state owned, and some other disgusting government will surface. Of course America will be blamed no matter what happens, not the people that live there.
"Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia will begin backing their relative groups in Iraq"
they are doing that now as we speak, they have been doing it since 2003
and of course america will be blamed, they started this shit they can't deal with. if the white house did they homework and studied the mid east instead of praying to jesus they would have learned how complex history is in that region and would not intervened on ideological bases, which a million iraqis have paid for so far
I **lived** with Iraqis, and had many Iraqi friends in London for several years and they were all Sunni and Shia mixed, and intermarried. I worked with Irish (actually in Ireland for a spell) for the best part of ten years and did not find Protestant and Catholic mixing to anything like the same degree.
Why are you Muslims blaming America for Muslims killing one another? We have nothing to do with Sunni and Shiite hatred. We want to have nothing further to do with it. Are you just reveling in the fact that the Iraq War is a failure and America is terrible? Why aren't you organizing protests against sectarian violence instead of just writing anti-Israel and anti-American rants on the internet...
b/c the militias that are doing all these killings infiltrated iraq and its institutions after the americans gave them the green light to enter. they roamed the streets freely b/c they cut deals with the american occupation.
agentoxide, do you have proof of this? I know that Americans are now paying the militias to not kill each other, and this is more effective than the surge. We also pushed the government to allow the Baathists immunity, which is causing violence to go down as well. I think the war is a bad idea, but it's still amusing to me that America is being blamed for muslims killing one another. We really, really would like you all to stop doing that, and yet it's our fault.
proof? Iraq was militia free till the US showed up, badr corps.belongs to the SCIRI, also the dawa party has their own militia too. both are fundamentalist organizations that's been cooperating the US. heck, they've meet Bush many times and visited the oval office too.
how about the fact that aljafari (the second PM of iraq) has a death sentence in kuwait like many of the dawa party members.
"Iraq was militia free till the US showed up." Yes, that's certainly true. I wonder why? It probably had something to do with the Baathists. It's also true that we are propping up the militias, but only so that they aren't killing us and everyone else. Obviously all we care about is getting the oil. Another broken promise made by our president (as if I believed him) was that we would no longer prop up the kind of fascism that has a strangle hold in the Middle East......
"Yes, that's certainly true. I wonder why? It probably had something to do with the Baathists."
dunno what you mean by that...but in reality the baathists ceased to be in control in the early 70s (same thing in Syria)when Suddam became the head of intelligence and then later as VP and then as president. he took over and unfortunately the baath became just a name w/o any implementation of what the baath supposed to be
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ahahahaha Iraq was a beautiful and prosperous nation where healthcare flowed like wine down a mountain of peace and islamic harmony before the mean ol' US of A got involved and trained all of these peace loving peoples into head sawing monsters. we must have poisoned their crystal clear waters with mind controlling toxins, so that george bush could send little kids to their deaths, cackling away!
ignorance is a plague upon humanity Those who would judge others from behind their computers will never learn. Those who can empathize with the plight of humans living beneath the bombs will understand the futility of war. Those that cant feel for others will never be truly happy themselves...which is why they will always spout negativity. American Foreign policy is EVIL, nothing to do with freedom, deomcracy or terrorism...its simple GREED. Securing wealth at the expense of others AMEN
it is hard for the iraqis to stop worrying and 'stop living in the stone age' because the americans have been bombing them into the stone age ccontinualy for five years!
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"oh no, we have it so bad"
well you know what happens, you leave.
pull yourself up out of it.
if i lived in a neighborhood and everyone was raping and murdering each other, you know what, see ya later. i'm outta here. i wouldn't tow a dead one from the back of my jeep with my kids.
they lived in the stone age well before a single US bomb hit them.
yeah, US shouldn't be in iraq, shouldn't be anywhere but back home. they've been sawing each others heads off for centuries.
wow what a genius!!the influx of Iraqi refugees are causing more problems and its not a solution. fanatical problems are piling up in neighboring countries..about 1 million refugees in Syria and half of a million in Jordan and Egypt alone..and few thousands in Scandinavia..not counting the 2-3 million displaced in Iraq it self.
"they lived in the stone age well before a single US bomb hit them."
that's bullshit and shows that you have no clue about what you are talking about
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read something instead of watching the daily show
OMG THE USA IS KILLING EVERY1!:(
good, they can all leave, get some better jobs, let the extremists all rot in a cave and IED themselves to death, or we can go in and take care of them for them, while they are safely away, then they can move back in, and we can build them better schools and some verizon FiOS.
haliburton, war for oil, dick cheney is a monster, bush is dumb, lets vote for change/hope.
you are the idiot who got a like 20 thumbs down on your retarded comments which you probably think they are pearls of wisdom and class act funny...poor you.
go back to clowning around and leave these discussion for adults
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no way. i'm lucky enough not to have a camera pointing at me at every street corner while i'm sipping tea and listening to shitty punk music on my ipod.
Obama will not pull the U.S. troops out of Iraq, and he has already said he will send more troops to Afghanistan. Politicians lie to get elected, if you didn't know.
Iraq is our new indian land. Since America labeled our native indians all savages and sent them to concentration camps "reservations", and enforced on them reeducation and religion (for their own good, see?), then took their resources, America has been doing the same pattern over and over.
To msvf2, I would recommend posting each subsequent video in this series as a response to the video prior. Currently, part 1 has 48,337 views whereas part 2 has 13,402. Just a recommendation as I believe it will result in more views. Thanks for the information and best of luck.
Agreed. Currently we must search thru the related/more section to find where/if there are more parts. If they were posted as video responses to each other, we could discern immediately ^_^
In response to hanzzzom...yes McInsane is the worst. But voting for the lesser of 2 evils is bs too. O'bama is also a sellout. They wouldnt be in the position they are if they do not do what their superiors tell them. Thats the central bank/CFR, their corporations/lobbyists etc. They are globalists or they wouldnt be in their position to run. The establishment/msm wouldnt allow Ron Paul to be president + ignorant sheep watch tv and do not get the truth.
it is really refreshing to see the real human side to this conflict, behind the walls Thank you for providing your viewpoint. I wish more US media would have the courage/ interest in doing this. I believe there are many in the US that would welcome information like this.
They have hopes and dreams like the rest of us. No war is justified...why do we need to fight? and those of you who egg on the fight and feel proud to kill someone of a different ethnicity just for the fact...god didnt give you that right. everyone has the right to live reguardless of what you think or how you feel. we live with too much hate. theres honestly no reason to hate anyone who is a person just like you..and still feel proud to be who you are. That sirs, is disgusting.
I think the one thing people forget is the simple fact that they are people. They are people just like you and i. They get up to the same sun and sleep to the same moon. And ya they are a different part of the earth, but they are on the same earth. there is a huge percentage of Americans who choose to ignore this and seperate people by their skin, tounge or religious beliefs. When in actuality they share the one common bond of being human.
you right...we're dehumanizing these simple mother fuckers...americans need to wake up forget all that religion bullshit and think about the people living now and how we can help eachother survive
I love how someone posts a video of the other side of the story and we get so many negative responses. You guys can sit there and throw out racial slures and pick on this guy from your computer all you want. its your right to think what you want. but to sit there and tell him hes wrong and stupid for sharing his view with you is hypocritical. The Iraqi people, and any other race for this matter, only speak different languages and have different beliefs because they are on a different continent.
The sadness to me is the contrast between the first cemetery shown which appears as middle class and the dump cemetery where the memory of dead loved ones are honored with anything which can serve as a marker.
....im sure thats the case, but so many people have bean killed by the direct and indirect affects of US foreign policy over the years. I think only mother nature has killed more people.
This is true. Most Americans only care about themselves and their own lives they fail to think about how the rest of the world feels or even how they treat their fellow American. I'm sure one day those who've done wrong will get whats coming to them like you said karma.
Quit trying to make a point. Don't live by what you see on television about us americans. The media has fucked you over pretty good, buddy. You don't know me, so keep your ignorant fucking comments to yourself.
First off I don't give two hells about television. I don't watch it. I'm going about how I see actual people and the way they act. Also you wouldn't be getting mad if what I said didn't offend you and you wouldn't have been offended if you knew it wasn't true. Don't call me ignorant because you don't know me either.
Ok, I can't help but to reply to some of these posts here. All religions are good, it is only when people become misinformed, and distracted do the religions get misdirected and misinterpreted. All religions are good, misinformed and greeding people are bad.
Fundamentally all religions may be good, or at least well-intentioned (do unto others, etc), but human nature is to detract from the very basis of the religion. People of differing religions will continue to kill each other JUST BECAUSE they worship a different god/goddess/gods in a different way. They think that THEIR religion is the "right" or "correct" one, and so by that logic, everyone else must convert, or are automatically out to get them and must therefore die. Religion has destroyed us.
Its narrow minded to look back on 10,000 years of history and think you have any idea what the world would look like without religion. In the 20'th century when atheism was a realistic alternative to religion two of the greatest mass murderers (hitler and stalin) were both atheist. Sure you can look before that and atribute thousands of crimes to religion, but it was a world in which religion was the only option. Im not religious, i just think its alot more complicated than "religion SUCKS!!"
Thumbs uo for history...(the Bible works) FAct: History tells us that religion is the ROOT of ALL EVIL... About knowledge:
If HITLER knew a little about science, he would have known a bigger and diverse gene pool is better for the race... ... Come on religion was cool , when every body was ignorant dude!!!.... Teach LOVE, TEACH something practical... There is no place for ignorance ... Thas just brings BAD PRESIDENTS , WAR and Higher OIL prices... GOD BLESS SCIENCE!!!!
Well, I'm atheist and I have to let you know that Hitler was a devoted Christian, he was raised by christianity and he believed in it. sorry for let you know the truth I know it hurts.
Sorry, I have to nip this in the bud, Hitler wasn't christian. Read the book of his secretarial transcripts. It is full of stuff like this:
"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure"
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
This is the same guy that said: "I think I can assure you that there is no one in Germany who will not with all his heart approve any honest attempt at an improvement of relations between Germany and France. My own feelings force me to take the same attitude... if France and Germany, on the basis of equal sharing of natural human rights, arrive at a real inner understanding"
Everything I noted was from private conversation. He HATED christianity in private, according to goebbels and others. He lauded it in in public because he needed the support of catholic germans. He was also NOT atheist, but deeply religious, but more a mix of mysticism and creepy supremacist stuff. He seemed to believe stuff like: Jesus was a white supremacist that believed in the utter annihilation of the Jews
I'll live :P and stalin killed more people anyway, so I think my point still stands. Anyway im not religious and im not trying to badmouth atheists in any way, i used to be atheist, im just staying that atheism is not some magical cure to all the worlds problems. sorry for leting you know the truth, I know it hurts :(
The reason why your country is this way is because of a religion you call, "the religion of peace" ISLAM. It brings nothing but death. To others, and to yourself. Until you realize that Mohamad was nothing but a criminal, you will live like this for the rest of your lives. Wake the fuck up. Its 2008.
Everytime I bring up Islam, there's always the one moron that must compare religions. Christianity STILL kills in the name of god? like I said, its 2008. IDIOT!
Are you one of those idiots who think that the past doesn't matter? You think people who sign up for the military don't feel that they're doing some sort of service to God? Wake up, it's 2008. Idiot.
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Your speaking to a veteran here who signed up in late 2001. I enlisted because I wanted to do my part in thanking this country (america) for providing me with food, comfort, and a roof over my head that my birth country could not provide. I will not die for my birth country, but I would for America... in a heart beat.
I do live in america and yes, criminals are running it.
Do a search for "vincent bugliosi" and see what comes up. Or check out his book " The prosecution of george w bush for murder". He lays it out the lies that led you to war.
i support us troops and i always respect their decisions but is something I will never understand it wasn´t necessary and it could have done better Im sorry USA but you really fucked up this one
xycircaxy 7 months ago
hey guys, is there anyone to write me that how is the situation in baghdat in this days ? is it safe ? are there still bombs or something ? can someone write me please ?
cios106 7 months ago
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ChannelofLiberty 10 months ago
We invaded iraq killed a alot of iraqis,than we left them to rot without food or medical supplies thanks to economic sanctions and we wonder why they want to bomb our troops.If you had your car ran over with an m1 tank you would be pissed too,especially if you drove a taxi.
condemned13 10 months ago
I don't know enough about this subject and would like to know more. Where can I learn more?
WilliamEGD 1 year ago
I gotta hand it to this guy. He's got some balls goin into Irq as a civilan right now. Excellent documentary though.....
pimpninja1985 1 year ago
also if you think pacifism can stop the war in the mid east, by all means go over there and starve yourself. They won't care.
offroadgod1 1 year ago
@the4LA2Baker0 pretty sure the english didn't relinquish influence or economic control till a bit after ghandi, and id just like to hear some one say how pacifism in the mid east could solve things, obviously being willing to die for the cause of non combatant peace wouldn't make a dent they blow themselves up "for" allaha they think they are fighting God's holy war, so u can not reach them morally. if Jesus didn't end the war in the mid east by example don't expect me to try.
offroadgod1 1 year ago
i think he lied on the greaves for whome they belong,
he mentioned that they belong to sunnied who killed by shitte, but this is not true, they are shitte killed by sunnies.
ALI1981USA 1 year ago
stupid bush
acidpenguin86 1 year ago
im sorry war is part of the human condition, pacifism can't stop it alone millitary assistance is necessary, If you want peace prepare for war,Semper Fi
offroadgod1 1 year ago
@offroadgod1 pacifism defeated the greatest military force on earth.
Google "gandhi defeated england"
The4LA2Baker0 1 year ago
It actually might of been different with hitler in that the building of his own master race was not what he wanted to destroy and therefore a mass civil pacifist movement may have even had affect on him but maybe just maybe im giving that evil bastard a little too much credit and he'd of done anything to hold onto power no matter what. Your hearts in the right place but really naive if everyone were better people itll happen but until that day war will carry on and on
daveywaveydave 2 years ago
you have to become what you want to see.
i choose a life of peace and understanding. my conscience does not permit me to be okay with the murder that is waged in our names for the sake of security, right or privilege. i have no enemies in life. i wish no pain upon anyone. i give all human beings the rights that i give myself. it is very simple when you wish to live in peace. things get complicated when you sacrifice your own conscience in order to ratify decisions of our leaders.
lincolnreyd 2 years ago
And the whole nation of germany rising up against hitler during ww2 by refusing to fight ?...people are selfish if everyone was altruistic sure maybe it would happen but the fear of death and prolonging your own life comes before everything else. Hitler would of crushed any civil uprising and brought them to order very quickly. Of course its a good thing that people do oppose assholes like that but getting millions of people to do it all at once is easier said than done.
daveywaveydave 2 years ago
psychotic dictators who will try and crush you whether your a pacifist or not, they simply dont care for reason or diplomacy.
daveywaveydave 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this!
JametBikeCo 2 years ago
thank u brother 4 sharing this vid
CUMALIOUS 2 years ago
Thanks for Posting this Many People Don't show the reality!!!
linarw23 2 years ago
eye for an eye and soon the whole world will be blind...if it isn't already...
xThankGodForMusicx 2 years ago 3
Thats a gandi qoute and gandi was a pacifist, to be honest im really glad countries have the guts to stand up to dictators with force, if they didnt hell i might not even of been born and my family might have been wiped out for maybe not being aryan enough or maybe id be speaking german and goosestepping everywhere?..who knows. Anyway saddam died and thats a good thing, pacifism may have worked in india and the partition but people still died en masse during that, but it wont work against...
daveywaveydave 2 years ago
@daveywaveydave ,
pacifism would have stopped Hitler if his citizens would have refused to fight. justifying illegal and unwanted foreign occupation is what the Nazis did, and which our country is doing now. as Albert Einstein said;" we will see a war-less world when men refuse to fight."
lincolnreyd 2 years ago
@daveywaveydave,
pacifism is the answer, all sides must choose to not kill and die for frivolous reasons, we must learn to not repeat the same mistakes over and over, this is called sanity. violence is not the answer. preemptive wars are not the answer, occupation is not the answer. peace cannot be enforced by gun, knife or bomb. only those who profit from war allow it to flourish.
lincolnreyd 2 years ago
@daveywaveydave ,
furthermore, i urge you to think for yourself and not parrot a speech you heard. being able to recite almost word for word a speech that was almost entirely false, a speech that would have made Hitler himself proud, is not proof of your intellectual ability, it proves intellectual inability. the inability to hold our leaders at the same bar we do everyone else. hold your views, beliefs and convictions to the same standard, and i will bet they will fall like a deck of cards.
lincolnreyd 2 years ago
I do think for myself and i resent the implication that you think i dont just because im rehashing beliefs that have been said before, guess what your beliefs have been said before so i could call you a parrot too. I do believe them though and i have thought about it. Likewise sure pacifism would work if everyone practices it but the point is not everyone does....
daveywaveydave 2 years ago
sorry i came across in a condescending manner. i truly did not mean for that implacation. good luck in your quest for understanding. " there are always excuses for violence, never for peace." bertrand russell
lincolnreyd 2 years ago
Its sad that Iraq is like this, but its not fair that you paint Shia as bad people.. you have to understand that Saddam used to do this to the Shia for 20 years - mass killings and unmarked graves.. im not saying they are justified in killing pple now, but its not fair just to paint them as evil people.
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machippy 2 years ago
Notice the name of video IT says its APRIL 9 ( and today is April 5) Witness - Baghdad City of Walls - 5 April 09 - Part 1
machippy 2 years ago
HMM this IS A copy of a video just posted 1 hour ago and now can't view because its private now. Same people different stories . Witness - Baghdad City of Walls - 5 April 09 - Part 1 This video just posted same thing different name and stories.
machippy 2 years ago
Iraqis love revenge. Yes, they are sad when a loved on dies, but then, years later even, they'll get back at the other church. Way to go.
DrewDawg50 2 years ago
its called an eye for an eye and believe me that is only fair
alaaraji 2 years ago
Fair for you may not be fair to another. When offering death, expect it as well.
DrewDawg50 2 years ago
but that is not right ,its not just shia muslim how kills sunni,ther is mor shia how have bin killd by sunni and ther hoe kaled ansar al sunna they was and are killer now
lisa25mona 3 years ago
I don't understand why their is so much hatred between the same people, in one country.
kwrzxm 3 years ago
First you have to understand the hatred in this country, if you can see it. We are not so different, in the end, us and the rest of the world.
feeknocks 3 years ago
Coz they're all stupid bastards. And that's coming from an iraqi
ahmedsaleh1986 2 years ago
Oh My God! That feild full of unmarked graves and peices of metal or anything. That's my city. I lost so many to it. I wish I can do something. But I'm so helpless.
mesopotamianprincess 3 years ago
The real indifference is from the press who are not adequately covering the damage of the war. To cover it would be to provide respect for the soldiers who are putting themselves in danger, as well as the innocent who are losing their lives. For a little of the truth watch Buddahead2009's END RELIGION video.
Buddahead2009 3 years ago
The Us didn't case the problems in the video.
LamboK28992 2 years ago
What is the business with the name Omar?
Jizuschrist 3 years ago
just go to wikipedia and get some more knowledge abt early islam
punjabicheeta 3 years ago
I think that the narrator is very fluent and touches upon the great tragedy of this war. The Iraqis have suffered and been through many tribulations for many years now. There is no doubt that my country's invasion and occupation are responsible for igniting a vast wave of violence that has at times run out of control. However, I cannot accept that the United States is responsible for the deaths of most of the Iraqi dead. These people died because other Muslims DECIDED that murder was an option.
Monsieurailingtongue 3 years ago
rubbish, there have been even more iraqis died since the invasion than before. If America have made a bigger mess of the place than Sadam, they must be incompetent in the extreme.
eloboo 3 years ago
Perhaps, but at least there some order.
Lawlzinator 3 years ago
order, you call that order, about 1 million dead since the invasion ? thats not order its a killing field.
same thing happend in Vietnam after US intervention.
But maybe if you think their is order there, you should live there yourself maybe ?
eloboo 3 years ago
I was referring to Iraq before the U.S. destroyed all order in the country.
Lawlzinator 3 years ago
oh yes, in that case i agree. When America leave, lets hope we can finaly see some real order and prosperity for Iraq, as well as the old cultures bloosom, it is possible. But what is going on at the pakistani borders, with carpet bommbing of many innnocent border tribes, really does not help the region. With economic collapose in the US now, i think soon we will see this kind of thing stop, maybe.
eloboo 3 years ago
i hope so...
endertrask 3 years ago
it's not a matter of incompetence it's a matter of indifference. Not once have the civilian casualites in Iraq been mentioned during this election. Most people don't care and those that do would be branded unamerican for saying as much.
I'm a former US Soldier with PTSD, when I brought up the dead civilians in counseling I was asked why their deaths bothered me more than my comrades. The question was ridiculous to me; we volunteered to live with war, the civilians did not.
BeerMan5000 3 years ago
The funny thing is that you want us to believe in your democracy and freedom, go to hell with your freedom
mansourali99 3 years ago
you talkin in the wrong place lol, its not like American people give a flying fuck about Iraq and so on. You been cutting each others heads off for the past 3000 years and thats where I see you for another 3. The government dont give a fuck about your democracy, they only see an opportunity to make money and thats the sad part. Dont blame American people, blame governments. Never seen American people protest against war?
averbakh01 3 years ago
"you talkin in the wrong place lol" over all the sad part that u think yourself the humanity rescuer and u r above all pepole in earth, and ur democracy now became dictatorship as ur comment show, hehehehe
mansourali99 3 years ago
Incoherent drivel.
Monsieurailingtongue 3 years ago
we have proverb is saying:
first screaming first defeated :)
mansourali99 3 years ago
It's part of the spirit of the nation, to spread the light to rest of the world: rule by the people is not only possible but also preferable to other forms. John Winthrop, founder of Mass. Bay Colony in 1629 AD had such a vision, a vision shared by Ronald Reagan, 40th president of the U.S.A. The ironic thing is that the free and peaceful people of the United States are more likely to feel chagrin, even deep regret and sadness, about the mistakes our elected leaders have made than unfree peoples.
Monsieurailingtongue 3 years ago
It's part of the spirit of the nation, to spread the light to rest of the world,lol USA foreigner affairs spokeman, ur light is destroyed iraqi pepole, more than million popole diad and the country & pepole become on of the poorest in earth and u stealing the petrol & money, I can write better than u but my english is not that ok, specially in hestory
mansourali99 3 years ago
The only way you could spread your "light" is by example, Not by bombing countries .
Jizuschrist 3 years ago
European powers have caused more deaths in Iraq than Saddam Hussein could have in his wildest dreams!
It's like McCaint-bush-cheney-pollen went to Iraq to compete with Saddam Hussein, and demonstrate who is the bigger mass murderer.
The hearts of a beasts and the forms of humans only.
No true human will initiate and continue relentlessly such carnage.
nirbija 3 years ago 5
We are to blame for this. I don't know what we could ever do to redeem ourselves.
Veteran4Peace 3 years ago 6
Vote 3rd party & Independent, show the world we Americans will hold accountable and kick out the 2 party sociopath DC Mafia government responsible for this heinous unforgivable insult to humanity.
Otherwise if we the people REWARD & endorse their abhorrent deadly behavior by keeping them in power, sorry to say, I don't see the haters & killers having much sympathy for us as a whole.
Govtflu 3 years ago
@Veteran4Peace How are we to blame? These people will always kill each other no matter what. It was always like that and it will always be like that. There is no peace in the middle east.
PepsiPope 1 year ago
very powerful video. The illegal US invasion and occupation of Iraq is responsible for the carnage, destruction, and death we see in Iraq today. The occupation needs to end now. The US should withdraw all the soldiers, contractors and dismantle the military bases. Iraqis can then pick up the pieces, reconcile, and rebuild their own country without foreign interference of any kind.
PHubb 3 years ago 4
TFS,
I don't know what rock you just crawled out under, but it appears that your drugs are kicking in big time. Your dilusional understanding of the world is sad indeed. Don't know what your drug-endused fantasy is trying to say, but I can tell that you have virtually no grasp of reality.
toeg1 3 years ago 2
WORLD,
I advise you to consider Koro's words very carefully. It shows a growing desire in the US to avoid responsibility for their actions. More and more Americans are pretending that what is going on is no longer their fault. Americans started the wars, but they see now that they can't finish them (a la Vietnam) so they seek to blame others around the world for what they started. You would be wise to hold their feet to the fire and force them to pay for what they started. It's their fault.
toeg1 3 years ago 2
It is absolutely our fault... in Iraq... It was a corrupt and disgusting war to start, and I'm ashamed of it. It's of course not the responsibility of the people killing each other to stop, whenever a muslim kills another muslim, it's always someone else's fault. You should listen to those words carefully.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
hmmmm, interesting. I would have thought you would have cited Theodor Herzl, but then you probably don't even know who he is. Your words are hateful and show your bias, "whenever a muslim kills a muslim..." Those are your words alone, and it shows how much you hate. You should stop hating so much and see life as it truly is. Your blind hatred of Muslims is keeping you from seeing the truth. You know very little, yet you hate a lot. Just another lost soul of hatred.
toeg1 3 years ago
Toeg, you may also want to google Treaty of Sèvres. Duh.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
Koro,
You know next to nothing, yet you have enough hate for a thousand souls. Your venimous answers betray you. Ignorance only breeds hate and contempt. We are ALL His children. You are a lost soul peering into the darkness and despising your own ignorance. Find the truth. Accept that we are all His children and none are favorites. Don't write about what you have no knowledge of. Learn before you attempt to teach others.
toeg1 3 years ago
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hahaha who is He? did your dad fool around with my mom? that son of a BITCH! listen man, that SOB owes me some birthday cards with 20's taped to the inside. until he does that, i'm not his child.
thefatsquad 3 years ago
Koro,
Wrong. Back to class. It was ALL part of the Ottoman Empire. France and GB divided it all up (spoils of war). Now YOU say, "Why blame the US for their fighting." Uh, the answer is, "Because we caused it." You don't send a bull into a China shop and then say, "Hey, I didn't do it. The bull did it. I just sent him in there."
WE started the Iraq War. You obviously have amnesia. You apparently know very little about the world. The US invades and you say, "don't blame us."
toeg1 3 years ago
Actually, you go back to class.
Google the Sykes-Picot agreement.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
My main issue is where is the leadership in the Muslim world? Why are there no mass protests of violence between Muslims? Why is Qatar and Kuwait thriving and investing their wealth into their future while Saudi Arabia and Syria sponsor the murder of innocent Iraqis, Lebanese and Palestinians?
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
...in my eyes all the leaders ships in the Arabian peninsula are jerks, they are as far as any system could be from democracy, and worst of all they came to power through the British mandate in the former ottoman territories.
msvf2 3 years ago
the leaders ships in the Arabian peninsula are jerks, but like the jerks in china and russia the world economy needs them!!
they did came to power through the British mandate but mostly through tribal alliances, but the gulf countries were never considered ottoman territory..only the Levant and the Hijaz area were occupied by the turks.
agentoxide 3 years ago
...there have been more jerks in the whitehouse than in the Kremlin. As for the Chines, how many wars have they started? How many people have they murdered as a direct result of their foreign policy? And most important of all, have they ever murdered civilians with a nuclear weapon?
msvf2 3 years ago
"Why are there no mass protests of violence between Muslims?"
there is, media don't even cover the anti-war protest in the Us and the europe much less the ones happening in the mid east!!
besides what the hell mass protests are going to achieve?!?!?!? just to please ppl like u?!?!
Saudi Arabia and Syria aren't sponsoring the murder of innocent Iraqis, Lebanese and Palestinians..were the hell you got that from?
agentoxide 3 years ago
agentoxide: I am not sure how you can say that Saddam Hussein was not in control of Iraq since the 70's. Yes, you don't have to tell me that the United States (and Great Britain, and France, and Canada) and most of the free world all backed Saddam Hussein for oil and anti-Soviet reasons, whether or not he was true to the Nazi-influenced politics of national socialism ad Baathism is a semantical argument to me. As for the rest of your reasoning for not invading Iraq I agree completely.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
maybe u miss understood me, i did say that suddam was in power
agentoxide 3 years ago
I'm a US Army veteran, I was in Baghdad in 2005-06. I have nothing but respect for the Iraqi's.
codytee 3 years ago
KoroOutbreak,
You wrote this: "it's still amusing to me that America is being blamed for muslims killing one another. We really, really would like you all to stop doing that, and yet it's our fault."
Lemme see, just because the US invaded iraq illegally, turned it into a lawless jungle by firing the ENTIRE government, you feel that it's not our fault. Amazing. Now who invaded who? Who fired the government and let the criminals free?? I really would like you all to wake up and smell the coffee.
toeg1 3 years ago 2
I didn't say I approved of the invasion or the way it happened. It's just interesting to me how the activism coming from the Muslim world is not in the form of protest or organization. The Saudis, Iranians and Syrians didn't want there to be a Kurdish state. That's not very nice. The reason they don't want a Kurdish state is because they want to control their interests in Iraq. That has nothing to do with us. Iraq used to be part of Syria, part of it was part of Iran, they want it back.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
the reason there is no kurdish state b/c the Brits and the french wouldn't allow it in the beginning of the century. they drew most of the borders that survived till this day and they didn't care to give the kurds their own state, unlike the christains and the jews of the region who were granted states(lebanon and israel)
agentoxide 3 years ago
..yes that is a sad fact, that the boundaries in some places where "drawn up" ( with a ruler). But this justify the fact that the US has probebly killed more civilians as a direct/indirect result of its foreign policy than any other nation on the planet.
msvf2 3 years ago
That was the beginning of the century. As in last century. Now it's the Turks and the Syrians. As soon as the British left Kurdistan, the Kurds engaged in a massacre. None of you seem to get off the imperial blame game. Yes, Americans are trying to force oil contracts down the throats of Iraqis. You blame the media for not covering peace protests. Can you link me to an assembly of 500,000 muslims that were not accompanied by chants of death to x or y or z?
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
i don't have to link up anything b/c you didn't answer my question...what does your peace protest going to achieve?
the idea that Muslims of all kinds are automatically guilty unless they do some sort a peaceful protests is simply ludicrous
agentoxide 3 years ago
You misunderstand, and you've extrapolated quite a heavy accusation out of my question. What did the million man march achieve on Washington DC? What did the civil rights movement achieve? Islam is under attack from the media, it's true, but there is not a coordinated effort among "moderate" Muslims to seriously acknowledge the problems of their own way of dealing with conflict. Arguably this is because of the Iraq war and the terrible things that have gone on there in the name of my country.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
Before the invasion, Egypt was addressing the sins of the Muslim Brotherhood on its own, that is also true. After 9-11, my mother, a Catholic, organized other Christians to surround mosques to prevent them from being attacked by reactionaries and racists. I would like to see Muslims organize protests against their own governments. Peaceful protests. Protests without the call to arms, or death. These would be more effective in bringing peace and secular acceptance to the muslim world.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
and did your mothers efforts been televised internationally? my guess in no...but that didn't prevent me from realizing that not all Christians are war-mongering crusaders!!
the White House has been occupied for decades by buncha Christian fundamentalist that are prayin daily for the rapture..and frankly i don't see any major protect in the U.S either denounce the fact that we've been on nuclear alert since 9/11 or the fact that the constitution is being pissed on my the president
agentoxide 3 years ago
Your point is taken.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
moderate Muslims??? you are using a typical post-911 vocabulary..i would refrain from that.besides u answered my question with two irrelevant questions?!?!
anyways...you seem to talk about islam as if muslims are a monolithic group when in fact Islam is decentralized religion that encompass lots of schools of thought..it's nearly impossible for all Muslims to agree on almost everything
agentoxide 3 years ago
...Of course this promise was broken, as we are still friends with the Sauds, and we are working with terrorists to wipe out other terrorists. That's the only reason why there is a relative peace. As soon as the United States backs away, Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia will begin backing their relative groups in Iraq, it will make its oil state owned, and some other disgusting government will surface. Of course America will be blamed no matter what happens, not the people that live there.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
"Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia will begin backing their relative groups in Iraq"
they are doing that now as we speak, they have been doing it since 2003
and of course america will be blamed, they started this shit they can't deal with. if the white house did they homework and studied the mid east instead of praying to jesus they would have learned how complex history is in that region and would not intervened on ideological bases, which a million iraqis have paid for so far
agentoxide 3 years ago
Bush = Hitler
Bush = Hitler
oceanbound222 3 years ago
I **lived** with Iraqis, and had many Iraqi friends in London for several years and they were all Sunni and Shia mixed, and intermarried. I worked with Irish (actually in Ireland for a spell) for the best part of ten years and did not find Protestant and Catholic mixing to anything like the same degree.
ArgyllSaracen 3 years ago 2
Quick and honest question:
Why are you Muslims blaming America for Muslims killing one another? We have nothing to do with Sunni and Shiite hatred. We want to have nothing further to do with it. Are you just reveling in the fact that the Iraq War is a failure and America is terrible? Why aren't you organizing protests against sectarian violence instead of just writing anti-Israel and anti-American rants on the internet...
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
b/c the militias that are doing all these killings infiltrated iraq and its institutions after the americans gave them the green light to enter. they roamed the streets freely b/c they cut deals with the american occupation.
agentoxide 3 years ago
agentoxide, do you have proof of this? I know that Americans are now paying the militias to not kill each other, and this is more effective than the surge. We also pushed the government to allow the Baathists immunity, which is causing violence to go down as well. I think the war is a bad idea, but it's still amusing to me that America is being blamed for muslims killing one another. We really, really would like you all to stop doing that, and yet it's our fault.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
proof? Iraq was militia free till the US showed up, badr corps.belongs to the SCIRI, also the dawa party has their own militia too. both are fundamentalist organizations that's been cooperating the US. heck, they've meet Bush many times and visited the oval office too.
how about the fact that aljafari (the second PM of iraq) has a death sentence in kuwait like many of the dawa party members.
didnt push for
agentoxide 3 years ago
"Iraq was militia free till the US showed up." Yes, that's certainly true. I wonder why? It probably had something to do with the Baathists. It's also true that we are propping up the militias, but only so that they aren't killing us and everyone else. Obviously all we care about is getting the oil. Another broken promise made by our president (as if I believed him) was that we would no longer prop up the kind of fascism that has a strangle hold in the Middle East......
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
"Yes, that's certainly true. I wonder why? It probably had something to do with the Baathists."
dunno what you mean by that...but in reality the baathists ceased to be in control in the early 70s (same thing in Syria)when Suddam became the head of intelligence and then later as VP and then as president. he took over and unfortunately the baath became just a name w/o any implementation of what the baath supposed to be
agentoxide 3 years ago
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ahahahaha Iraq was a beautiful and prosperous nation where healthcare flowed like wine down a mountain of peace and islamic harmony before the mean ol' US of A got involved and trained all of these peace loving peoples into head sawing monsters. we must have poisoned their crystal clear waters with mind controlling toxins, so that george bush could send little kids to their deaths, cackling away!
thefatsquad 3 years ago
It's obvious from this footage that America is engaging in systematic genocide of Iraq. Hey, money.
Neuroelectronic 3 years ago 3
ignorance is a plague upon humanity Those who would judge others from behind their computers will never learn. Those who can empathize with the plight of humans living beneath the bombs will understand the futility of war. Those that cant feel for others will never be truly happy themselves...which is why they will always spout negativity. American Foreign policy is EVIL, nothing to do with freedom, deomcracy or terrorism...its simple GREED. Securing wealth at the expense of others AMEN
EvKrusty 3 years ago 5
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boo hoo. stop living in the stone ages, get a job and an xbox. stop worrying about your neighbors religious sect and be happy with your own. animals.
thefatsquad 3 years ago
it is hard for the iraqis to stop worrying and 'stop living in the stone age' because the americans have been bombing them into the stone age ccontinualy for five years!
mjdmds1984 3 years ago 2
more like 18 years
agentoxide 3 years ago
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"oh no, we have it so bad"
well you know what happens, you leave.
pull yourself up out of it.
if i lived in a neighborhood and everyone was raping and murdering each other, you know what, see ya later. i'm outta here. i wouldn't tow a dead one from the back of my jeep with my kids.
they lived in the stone age well before a single US bomb hit them.
yeah, US shouldn't be in iraq, shouldn't be anywhere but back home. they've been sawing each others heads off for centuries.
time to grow up.
thefatsquad 3 years ago
wow what a genius!!the influx of Iraqi refugees are causing more problems and its not a solution. fanatical problems are piling up in neighboring countries..about 1 million refugees in Syria and half of a million in Jordan and Egypt alone..and few thousands in Scandinavia..not counting the 2-3 million displaced in Iraq it self.
"they lived in the stone age well before a single US bomb hit them."
that's bullshit and shows that you have no clue about what you are talking about
agentoxide 3 years ago
*financial problems
agentoxide 3 years ago
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read something instead of watching the daily show
OMG THE USA IS KILLING EVERY1!:(
good, they can all leave, get some better jobs, let the extremists all rot in a cave and IED themselves to death, or we can go in and take care of them for them, while they are safely away, then they can move back in, and we can build them better schools and some verizon FiOS.
haliburton, war for oil, dick cheney is a monster, bush is dumb, lets vote for change/hope.
enough key words to get a thumbs up from you?
thefatsquad 3 years ago
lol...
you are the idiot who got a like 20 thumbs down on your retarded comments which you probably think they are pearls of wisdom and class act funny...poor you.
go back to clowning around and leave these discussion for adults
agentoxide 3 years ago
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the shiniest, most beautiful pearls of wisdom one could ever hope to behold.
thefatsquad 3 years ago
yeah ok
agentoxide 3 years ago
...your exactly why Britain should take control of her former empire.
msvf2 3 years ago
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no way. i'm lucky enough not to have a camera pointing at me at every street corner while i'm sipping tea and listening to shitty punk music on my ipod.
not yet anyway.
thefatsquad 3 years ago
@thefatsquad don't you think the people would do that if they could?
Dumbarse.
uzaiyaro 1 year ago
The latest stream of comments illustrates the point of this doc. wonderfully.
bobdemaa 3 years ago
Obama will not pull the U.S. troops out of Iraq, and he has already said he will send more troops to Afghanistan. Politicians lie to get elected, if you didn't know.
FeebulMinded 3 years ago
Iraq is our new indian land. Since America labeled our native indians all savages and sent them to concentration camps "reservations", and enforced on them reeducation and religion (for their own good, see?), then took their resources, America has been doing the same pattern over and over.
morality101 3 years ago 3
To msvf2, I would recommend posting each subsequent video in this series as a response to the video prior. Currently, part 1 has 48,337 views whereas part 2 has 13,402. Just a recommendation as I believe it will result in more views. Thanks for the information and best of luck.
RSKueffner 3 years ago
Agreed. Currently we must search thru the related/more section to find where/if there are more parts. If they were posted as video responses to each other, we could discern immediately ^_^
ablestmage 3 years ago
Lets ask cheney and bush about this
tableturns77 3 years ago
well dont vote mccain guys
hanzzzom 3 years ago 3
In response to hanzzzom...yes McInsane is the worst. But voting for the lesser of 2 evils is bs too. O'bama is also a sellout. They wouldnt be in the position they are if they do not do what their superiors tell them. Thats the central bank/CFR, their corporations/lobbyists etc. They are globalists or they wouldnt be in their position to run. The establishment/msm wouldnt allow Ron Paul to be president + ignorant sheep watch tv and do not get the truth.
JamJHolmes 3 years ago
You are absolutely right and as you can see the sheep gave you the thumbs down.
Rustyshackleford08 3 years ago
100,000 Iraqis killed. 4,130 American troops dead. Fuck Bush & McCain.
BushSucksDaily 3 years ago 3
it is really refreshing to see the real human side to this conflict, behind the walls Thank you for providing your viewpoint. I wish more US media would have the courage/ interest in doing this. I believe there are many in the US that would welcome information like this.
jahmbo 3 years ago 2
They have hopes and dreams like the rest of us. No war is justified...why do we need to fight? and those of you who egg on the fight and feel proud to kill someone of a different ethnicity just for the fact...god didnt give you that right. everyone has the right to live reguardless of what you think or how you feel. we live with too much hate. theres honestly no reason to hate anyone who is a person just like you..and still feel proud to be who you are. That sirs, is disgusting.
ragnartheinsane 3 years ago 4
I think the one thing people forget is the simple fact that they are people. They are people just like you and i. They get up to the same sun and sleep to the same moon. And ya they are a different part of the earth, but they are on the same earth. there is a huge percentage of Americans who choose to ignore this and seperate people by their skin, tounge or religious beliefs. When in actuality they share the one common bond of being human.
ragnartheinsane 3 years ago 6
you right...we're dehumanizing these simple mother fuckers...americans need to wake up forget all that religion bullshit and think about the people living now and how we can help eachother survive
lmaohater 3 years ago
I love how someone posts a video of the other side of the story and we get so many negative responses. You guys can sit there and throw out racial slures and pick on this guy from your computer all you want. its your right to think what you want. but to sit there and tell him hes wrong and stupid for sharing his view with you is hypocritical. The Iraqi people, and any other race for this matter, only speak different languages and have different beliefs because they are on a different continent.
ragnartheinsane 3 years ago 4
The sadness to me is the contrast between the first cemetery shown which appears as middle class and the dump cemetery where the memory of dead loved ones are honored with anything which can serve as a marker.
jrufusbrown 3 years ago
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You sure about that moron? Let me remind you of Hitler and the Holocaust.... Now suck a dick you muslim piece of shit!
Johndoe024 3 years ago
You are an idiot.
You logic and argument are virtually non-existent. What do you gain by your negativity and name-calling? How does that solve any problems at all?
skokage 3 years ago
Allah Praise Busch
modeleagle 3 years ago
Religion is the last thing everyone should be worrying about, it's how everyone is living, and what the fuck anybody's going to do about it.
Dragonmantek 3 years ago
Why is everyone bickering about religions? This is exactly the problem.
YourGod11 3 years ago 3
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Fuck USA ,karma will get these motherfuckers and lets hope they squeal just like the people they have destroyed and know what real life is.
Allahtruth 3 years ago
Enjoy your air strike, and Americans will be giving it to you shortly.
lanz0r4tehwin 3 years ago
Not all USA citizens stand for the war or what has been done to your country. I am one of them. Don't hate the whole for what others have done.
jbeltran23 3 years ago 4
....im sure thats the case, but so many people have bean killed by the direct and indirect affects of US foreign policy over the years. I think only mother nature has killed more people.
msvf2 3 years ago
This is true. Most Americans only care about themselves and their own lives they fail to think about how the rest of the world feels or even how they treat their fellow American. I'm sure one day those who've done wrong will get whats coming to them like you said karma.
jbeltran23 3 years ago
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Suck a chode, troll.
Nerolus 3 years ago
You show how selfish some Americans are just by what you said.
jbeltran23 3 years ago
Quit trying to make a point. Don't live by what you see on television about us americans. The media has fucked you over pretty good, buddy. You don't know me, so keep your ignorant fucking comments to yourself.
Nerolus 3 years ago
First off I don't give two hells about television. I don't watch it. I'm going about how I see actual people and the way they act. Also you wouldn't be getting mad if what I said didn't offend you and you wouldn't have been offended if you knew it wasn't true. Don't call me ignorant because you don't know me either.
jbeltran23 3 years ago
Ok, I can't help but to reply to some of these posts here. All religions are good, it is only when people become misinformed, and distracted do the religions get misdirected and misinterpreted. All religions are good, misinformed and greeding people are bad.
LiveAPC420 3 years ago
Fundamentally all religions may be good, or at least well-intentioned (do unto others, etc), but human nature is to detract from the very basis of the religion. People of differing religions will continue to kill each other JUST BECAUSE they worship a different god/goddess/gods in a different way. They think that THEIR religion is the "right" or "correct" one, and so by that logic, everyone else must convert, or are automatically out to get them and must therefore die. Religion has destroyed us.
swmianon 3 years ago 3
The WORST CRIMES in history have being comitted because of religion or racism... Peace and Knowledge ... Ignorance and religion SUCKS!
radpancho 3 years ago 3
Its narrow minded to look back on 10,000 years of history and think you have any idea what the world would look like without religion. In the 20'th century when atheism was a realistic alternative to religion two of the greatest mass murderers (hitler and stalin) were both atheist. Sure you can look before that and atribute thousands of crimes to religion, but it was a world in which religion was the only option. Im not religious, i just think its alot more complicated than "religion SUCKS!!"
Darhal 3 years ago
Thumbs uo for history...(the Bible works) FAct: History tells us that religion is the ROOT of ALL EVIL... About knowledge:
If HITLER knew a little about science, he would have known a bigger and diverse gene pool is better for the race... ... Come on religion was cool , when every body was ignorant dude!!!.... Teach LOVE, TEACH something practical... There is no place for ignorance ... Thas just brings BAD PRESIDENTS , WAR and Higher OIL prices... GOD BLESS SCIENCE!!!!
radpancho 3 years ago
Hitler was a catholic. and the problem with religion primarily is that it's simply, wrong.
lanz0r4tehwin 3 years ago 2
Well, I'm atheist and I have to let you know that Hitler was a devoted Christian, he was raised by christianity and he believed in it. sorry for let you know the truth I know it hurts.
kerketj 3 years ago
Sorry, I have to nip this in the bud, Hitler wasn't christian. Read the book of his secretarial transcripts. It is full of stuff like this:
"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure"
EarlofWhitehaven 3 years ago
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
ben0wn4g3 3 years ago
This is the same guy that said: "I think I can assure you that there is no one in Germany who will not with all his heart approve any honest attempt at an improvement of relations between Germany and France. My own feelings force me to take the same attitude... if France and Germany, on the basis of equal sharing of natural human rights, arrive at a real inner understanding"
Don't believe any speech by hitler.
EarlofWhitehaven 3 years ago
Well you just nipped your own point in the bud as well :)
ben0wn4g3 3 years ago
I said "speech".
Everything I noted was from private conversation. He HATED christianity in private, according to goebbels and others. He lauded it in in public because he needed the support of catholic germans. He was also NOT atheist, but deeply religious, but more a mix of mysticism and creepy supremacist stuff. He seemed to believe stuff like: Jesus was a white supremacist that believed in the utter annihilation of the Jews
EarlofWhitehaven 3 years ago
I'll live :P and stalin killed more people anyway, so I think my point still stands. Anyway im not religious and im not trying to badmouth atheists in any way, i used to be atheist, im just staying that atheism is not some magical cure to all the worlds problems. sorry for leting you know the truth, I know it hurts :(
Darhal 3 years ago
Stalin was a Georgian Orthodox, fully trained in a Christian mindset. He even enrolled at the Georgian Orthodox Seminary.
He became an atheist because of the invasive and authoritarion actions into his private life at that Seminary.
Who knows what would have happened when Stalin had gone to a secular school instead of a seminary ...
wprange 3 years ago 2
another classic example of what religion can do to people.
PotheadPundit 3 years ago 3
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The reason why your country is this way is because of a religion you call, "the religion of peace" ISLAM. It brings nothing but death. To others, and to yourself. Until you realize that Mohamad was nothing but a criminal, you will live like this for the rest of your lives. Wake the fuck up. Its 2008.
JackArse777 3 years ago
Yeah because the other religions never caused violence.
sparhax 3 years ago 4
Everytime I bring up Islam, there's always the one moron that must compare religions. Christianity STILL kills in the name of god? like I said, its 2008. IDIOT!
JackArse777 3 years ago
Are you one of those idiots who think that the past doesn't matter? You think people who sign up for the military don't feel that they're doing some sort of service to God? Wake up, it's 2008. Idiot.
wog44 3 years ago 3
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Your speaking to a veteran here who signed up in late 2001. I enlisted because I wanted to do my part in thanking this country (america) for providing me with food, comfort, and a roof over my head that my birth country could not provide. I will not die for my birth country, but I would for America... in a heart beat.
JackArse777 3 years ago
You don't serve america by going to iraq, you serve the criminals presently in control of america, there is a big difference.
jekylfoot 3 years ago 12
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Well i hope you don't live in America if you believe criminals are running it.
JackArse777 3 years ago
I do live in america and yes, criminals are running it.
Do a search for "vincent bugliosi" and see what comes up. Or check out his book " The prosecution of george w bush for murder". He lays it out the lies that led you to war.
jekylfoot 3 years ago 9
Why don't you try instead of dying for america.....live for God?
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