THE ASSASSIN SAVED MORE LIVES THAN ALL GODS COMBINE INCLUDING JESUS INCLUDING YOUR OWN LIFE! JFK A DOUBLE O O SPIDER HELL BENT ON THE EXTICTION OF MANKIND (USE IR METER TO CONFIRM SKIN). JFK PLOT 4 THE 23THRD GLOBAL NUCLEAR AHNALIATION ANTICIPAITE CASUALTIES 600 MILLION 1ST PHASE WHILE JFK THREDIIDAE FAMILY WAITED SAFE & SOUND IN CAVES BY THE MILLIONS TO EMERGE AFTER FANG ENVENOMATE ANY SURVIVOR COLLECT FLESH & BONE REVENUE! THE WORLD OWES THE ASSASSIN & IT WAS NOT OSWALD OR ANY MENTIONED.
Please watch LBJ TAPES: Kennedy Assassination. It's the phone call between hoover and LBJ a week after the assassination. 3 bullets: 2 into the president and 1 separate bullet into the governor. Bullets two and three were right after each other per the Connally and Jakie testimony.
@wizardoflawz no, Oswald had two do-overs. He missed the first shot. Obviously, it's quite possible to do, so anyone arguing Oswald couldn't have fired the shots is either a liar or idiot. That's the point of the exercise.
@flouride666 possible but not probable. I will say that Oswald's rifle was probably newer than the one's tested. But they say the scope was also misaligned. I dont see why it would be idiotic to be skeptical.
JFK was a great mind and did a lot of good for the minorities but he did do a hell of a lot of damage to US credibility, he personally started and lost 2 wars, made deals with the same mafia he prosecuted and let's not forget where the Kennedy fortune comes from, bootlegging. And last but not least he started printing free US currency which sounds good but no profit can be made internationally if you have this currency so US business men would lose to other countries economically,then what?Death
Oswald shot at the back of JFK, grasy knoll guy shot Connally and the man on the triple overpass got the headshot, each shooting 1 to 2 times. It's hard to say who got what shot but Oswald didn't get the headshot, we know that for a fact.Every theory out is right because it was CIA and all it's assets that had him killed. The mafia was it's biggest asset then with the whole Cuba thing. Every major power gained from his death. It had to be done, the guy lost 2 wars started printing money....
@flouride666 Are you actually a certified retard? How the hell anyone can say the shots came from behind... when simple physics and a set of eyes can see from the Zapruder film that he was shot from the front... is beyond me. So I can only come to the conclusion that you are a retard.
@frankmat simple physics...you ARE aware that bullets don't have the force to actually knock people around like in action movies, right? That JFK's head moving back (after first moving forward) is not any indication of where the shots came from?
@flouride666 Really? So it was just a summer breeze that knocked his head back? Exactly what caused his head to jerk back like that at the exact moment he was shot? You talk about "logic" and then come up with the most ridiculous illogical 'theories'.
So I am waiting... you tell me what caused JFK's head to jerk back like that? Was it a groovy tune coming on the radio at that exact moment?
@frankmat for the answer, search for "P&T-BS-Conspiracy Theories Part 3/3 (HQ)" and skip to about 7:30. It was the exit wound. However, again, it's simple physics: the force of the bullet could not have caused him to move. So whatever the reason, it wasn't because he was shot from the front.
@flouride666 So in other words... you have absolutely no idea why his head jerks back.... because there is no LOGICAL reason for it..... so you cannot give me one.
What you are.... is a patriot.... who would never believe your people would kill their own for political reasons. I bet you think muslims did 9/11 as well right?
Patriotism like religion is just another form of brainwashing... and the funny thing is you have absolutely no idea how affected your thinking is.
@frankmat I gave you the exact reason, the exit wound. Again, think about physics. Bullets don't have the force to move his head, it's that simple. What is your specific criticism with the explanation of the exit wound being the reason for JFK's head movement? What do you propose happened? Or do you simply choose to believe it wasn't Oswald, and ignore the evidence?
@flouride666 Evidence? What evidence that Oswald did it. The evidence has already been shown to be flimsy and planted. In fact you want evidence... what about the death bed confession by Howard E Hunt? Do we no longer take confessions for murder as evidence? Or do you just conveniently ignore what doesn't fit your agenda?
@frankmat all of the evidence points to Oswald. It was his gun that fired the bullets. His gun was found in the window. He left the scene (his job) with no explanation. Shot a cop. Resisted arrest. He tried to assassinate Gen. Walker too, his wife confirmed it. Many people have "confessed" to killing JFK (James Files, Robert Morrow, etc), and obviously they can't all be telling the truth, so no, Hunt's confession does not prove anything at all. Didn't you want to say something about physics?
The only thing I want to know is : WHO KILL JFK ans WHY ? I dont care about number of shots, from where, closeup of blure withe spot or other trajectory... WHO kill this man and WHY ?
Who benefitted from murdering Kennedy? You need 1) motive and 2) means. Oswald didn't do it, so 3) is who covered it up? His head goes back and to the left, a shot from the front right. Why did LBJ order the limo to be immediately rebuilt before it could be inspected? Who appointed to the Warren commission Kennedy's biggest enemies to investigate his murder, and why? These are the real questions to ask.
Oswald was NOT an expert marksman. He was a non-qual on his first attempt on the marksman test. He barely passed the test the second. Two marine rifle instructors testified to this at the Warren commission and said they didn't believe it was possible for Oswald to make the shots because they had trouble doing it. AND they said Oswald has been a NON0-QUAL (non- qualified or failed).
@bobzeda no. Sergeant Zahm's testimony was: "I would say in the Marine Corps he is a good shot, slightly above average, and as compared to average male of his age throughout the United States, that he is an excellent shot." Regarding the second shot itself, Sergeant Zahm said "with the equipment he had and with his ability I consider it a very easy shot." this is in chapter IV of the unabridged Warren report. What you are claiming is in the report is just made-up nonsense.
This is all part of the straw man argument, people spent years debating if the shots could be fired at a certain speed while maintaining any kind of accuracy.
Notice there are no trees in the way during this re-enactment - there were trees in the way at the Book Depository. And yes, as others have pointed out, it's questionable as to whether Dan Rather should be participating in this considering his own tainted history on this issue where he misrepresented to the public the contents of the Zapruder film.
@TheLensSolution There was one oak or elm tree that did NOT present any obstruction on the first shot and most definitely didn't present on on the last. What is so hard to understand?
Dan Rather said the President's head jerked "forward with considerable violence" when describing Zapruder tape on CBS. In on the cover-up from the start. Also, the limo slowed down, to make sure of the hit.
Dan Rather is a lying new world order rat bastard who was promoted after he lied through his teeth after he was allowed to report on the Zapruder film. This rat claimed JFK's head went forward instead of back. Talk about a government operative.
My favorite, which I'm intellectually flabbergasted at each time I hear it, is the constant parroting of, "Back and to the left, back and to the left". You need not rely on men expert in ballistic forensics (although you should if you are a layman). Just watch the disturbing Zapruder film. Even at normal speed you can see the Presidents head pitch slightly forward and to the right by the impact and then jerk back and to the left as every nerve and muscle in his body reacts to the shock.
No one has tested only the movements of the second. and third. shots, proven by video zapruther takes only 4 seconds. If testing will easily see that the conspiracy existed. Think LHO fired the second time, reloaded the gun, missed the target, had to find again the head moving from jfk to 90 feet away and shoot. Impossible in 4 seconds!. LHO was 24, a boy, would never have achieved. Shooter 24 years of practice. as the best in the world could not
This shooting discusion is pointless all, it proves is that it is possible for a trained marksman to kill kennedy from the 6th floor window using three shots in 6 sec.
It does not prove that Oswald fired the rifle.
I know he suposelly owned it, but it still does'nt prove anything.
@EvilPoet85 LHO's fingerprints were found on the boxes that supported the rifle near the window. His palm print on the rifle that he bought using an alias name....the 3 shell casings that matched the rifle found near the window.....he had no alibi co workers. Pictures of him holding the damn rifle...this isn't rocket science folks.
@clev9980 The parafin and nitrate test were inconclusive, it only showed gunpowder residue on his right hand indicating that he had fired a handgun , if he had fired a rifle the residue would also be on his cheek, it were not.
He worked on the sixht floor wich can explain fingerprints on boxes, even though fingerprints dont last long on cardboard so claiming fingerprints where on the boxes is impossible to prove today. Yes he clearly owned the rifle, but that does'nt prove he fired it.
@EvilPoet85 Then please explain to the jury if you were a defense attorney how exactly his rifle got to the 6th floor ? lol Explain why after the police sealed off the building...Oswald was the ONLY employee NOT accounted for ? Explain why he lied to police saying he had a coke with 2 co workers...who later said they were not with him ? lmao...
@EvilPoet85 Fibers from the blanket at Ruth Paine's house where the rifle was kept wrapped were found on the rifle. Fibers from LHO's shirt he was wearing were found between the stock and butt plate. LHo had not reported the rifle stolen. Marina knew of the rifle and where he kept it at the Paine house. She thought it was still in the blanket and nearly fainted when she saw it was missing. There were witnesses who saw him firing the rifle from the TSBD. Of course he fired the rifle!
@clev9980 As a reformed conspiracy loon I'm aware of the deluded passions held by some of the conspiracy nuts. Some are so obsessively fixated on "conspiracy" they miss the obvious and deny the proven.
@draoi99 Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. There were witnesses who saw LHO shooting from the 6th floor of the TSBD and ZERO witnesses who saw anyone shooting from the knoll.
You can deny the existence of witnesses (heaven knows the conspiracy loons have been doing it for decades) but it doesn't change the fact they existed In addition, those that saw LHO firing reported what they saw immediately. Those who "saw" someone on the knoll took years to say anything.
@draoi99 hey dweeb... Several people saw a rifle in the window. The guys in the window below(5th floor) watching heard the clicking and shots just above their heads..
What say you Jesse? Can you believe that clown was a governor? Then again considering politics of recent years...
@irish89055 Nobody saw Oswald at the window, nobody saw Oswald shoot anyone that day. Try to think logically about what you're saying please because right now I feel a little sorry for you.
@draoi99 hey stupid, you can virtually see him in some of the video footage looking towards the TSBD... ask the two black guys that worked there and were viewing from the window one floor below... though their prob dead now.. Oh, wait, must be part of a conspiracy then....
@irish89055 So the two black guys see LHO shooting at the president? Before you call people names you should think about your simple interpretation of information, just because they claimed to have heard the shots (including the bolt action) does not mean it was Oswald. The evidence there was multiple shooters is and was abundant.
@UNIQUE1982 Meanwhile, Howard Brennan, a steamfitter who was sitting across the street from the Texas School Book Depository, notified police that as he watched the motorcade go by, he heard a shot come from above, and looked up to see a man with a rifle make another shot from a corner window on the sixth floor. He had seen the same man minutes earlier looking out the window.[39] Brennan gave a description of the shooter,[40] which was broadcast to all Dallas police at 12:45 p.m., 12:48 p.m.
@irish89055 Again "your simple interpretation of information", Brennan gave a description of the shooter, really, including height? What kind of description can you give of someone you see on the 6th floor for a few seconds at best?
@UNIQUE1982 Amos Lee Euins, a 15-year-old ninth grade student, stated that he was facing the Depository as the motorcade turned the corner at Elm and Houston. He recalled:
Then I was standing here, and as the motorcade turned the corner, I was facing, looking dead at the building. And so I seen this pipe thing sticking out the window. I wasn't paying too much attention to it. Then when the first shot was fired, I started looking around, thinking it was a backfire.
@UNIQUE1982 Everybody else started looking around. Then I looked up at the window, and he shot again.13
After witnessing the first shots, Euins hid behind a fountain bench and saw the man shoot again from the window in the southeast corner of the Depository's sixth floor.14 According to Euins, the man had one hand on the barrel and the other on the trigger. he reported his observations to Sgt. D. V. Harkness of the Dallas Police
@irish89055 Even if there was a shooter in the window described the shooting happened in the space of 6-8 Seconds and therefore, if he did not look up until after the first shot that leaves less than 4-5 seconds. And in that time he found cover behind a bench and managed to give a description but also how the gun was held.
Again even if this is true, it only puts emphasis on your trust of eye witnesses, and therefore I can list those who heard a gunshot and see activity on the knoll.
@EvilPoet85 Supposedly owned it? It was absolutely and positively proved beyond doubt that he owned it. Read the relevant parts of the Warren Commission Report. This is the problem with the conspiracy theorists. They take obvious incontrovertible evidence and then make statement such as ,"supposedly owned it" . Accept the evidence. It's been 50 years and NOT ONE SHRED of data, by men and women committed to the theory of conspiracy, has been proffered. Do you find that strange?
"ONE SHRED of data, by men and women committed to the theory of conspiracy, has been proffered. Do you find that strange?"
You obviously haven't looked into it for yourself.
It's just a fact that a single man with a Carcano rifle cannot do the damage that he allegedly done. Oswald either had fellow snipers, which there were sightings of, or he didn't do it at all and he was placed for the blame/scapegoat.
One thing to remember is that these men are all GOOD shots and Oswald sucked. he scored sharpshooter briefly and fell back to the lowest rating of marksman. also remember he MISSED general Walker at LESS then the distance kenendy was and he had a CLEAR shot at a SITTING target that was LARGER than the back of a human head. Oswald also MISSED his first shot and was dicharged for shooting himself in the elbow with his OWN pistol.
1.40 - 1.51min. Rather says "37 attempts to fire 3 shots. 17 times had to be called 'no fire' because of trouble with the rifle". That isnt a reliable weapon. Conspiracists will say why would Oswald choose such a shitty weapon? The answer is he was poor with no money and was a spendthrift. I ask why would conspiracists plant such an unreliable weapon that could jam up at any given moment? This is the lynchpin of the plot - the weapon. Why not plant an automatic rifle and tie it to Oswald?
I always thought that the JFK conspiracy was very plausible. After the 9/11 conspiracy industry showed me how much people were willing to distort facts and exaggerate claims for book deals, radio shows, advertising, money etc.. I can see how the Kennedy assassination developed in the same way, as there is an industry worth millions that depend on distorted claims.
This makes the claim that the gun couldn't be operated that quickly as not a very strong claim, as it can. Oswald's wife said he would do dry runs with the bolt action rifle sitting on his porch over an over. He was seen at target ranges speed shooting. He was familiar with his weapon and none of these experts were.
Personally do not think the second shot struck JFK leaves his body in an unlikely trajectory Konely wounded.
I do not believe in the killings of 16 people in the first year and 80 people in 1976 is related to the case Coincidence.
I do not think LHO was murdered two days after the death of JFH by a mobster who loved her so much and the President was furious with the attitude of human milk, it is not possible, or otherwise LHO and most unlucky person in the world.
I would like to have access to the records show that he was an excellent sniper! and always practiced shooting with the rifle. The testimony we heard and that when he was served a good shot. I understand that LHO shot JFK does not reveal this to the autopsy photo shows a hole in the forehead at the front of the head of JFK, JFK LHO was running behind, I believe this evidence.
If you guys still think Oswald did it, inspect the sling mounting rings on the rifle. In his backyard photos, it is shown as being on the rifle. On the rifle which the Warren Commission used in their exhibit, it is not there.
Me explique de maneira mais abrangente suas opnioes a respeito, como uso o tradutor as vezes demoro a entender do que se esta falando. Sou um dos milhares que ficaram intrigados com o caso e suas particularidades.
Em sua opniao o que aconteceu no dia.quem matou jfk em sua opniao?
zapruther saw the movie frame by frame, the frame 313 is incontestable see if a blood blister on the head and the bullet entering JFK head on! shot forward. if the fence anywhere it would have the shooter Algul 20 degrees, shot came from the viaduct
@joaoisobr Careful analysis of the Zapruder film has shown Kennedy was hit from the rear moving his head slightly forward about a split second before he is struck just above the right temple and you see his head explode. This proves that the Dictabelt Recording WAS taken in the area, not where the "experts" place it far away from there. Four shots. That means that Oswald did not act alone, and if you ask me I don't think he did it at all. Check out the rifle and its missing sling rings.
@joaoisobr There's no point in trying to figure out who shot the third shot. I mean if you go and look at videos on here about the Zapruder Film you can see that before the fatal headshot, Kennedy's head bobs slightly forward - meaning he is hit by a shot from the rear, and then the fatal one hits him above the temple and he flies back and to the left. This is also consistent to what James Files says. In his version, he claims Chuck Nicoletti fired the third shot.
@R3DF00T James Files is nothing but a convict with nothing better to do, so he went along with someones scheme to sell more conspiracy. As Files relates his tale, he does so in a way that indicates rehearsal, extensive rehearsal in which he seems bothered with at times. He is not relating his own experience, he would talk more fluidly if it was so. This is obvious in his interview.
@R3DF00T Files has no anecdotes, no sudden interruption of train of thought by occurrence of real memory. He speaks almost monotone and tired at times, like one would be if they were rehearsing something. His description is factual, even though he was supposed to be there, he recalls events in ordered sequence with the details not indicative of actual experience. "I got in the car, we drove to blahbalh. "So and so got out of the left side."
@R3DF00T I reviewed the tape, a considerable amount of time elapses before the head motion(back and to the left) and the halo of blood from the impact of the bullet. The motion you see is not just his head but his whole body, not from the force of impact, but from the severe neurological damage. I've seen the entrance wound and though I'm not certain, it's likely the bullet plowed through the basal ganglia, which inhibits movement accounting for the body jerking back and to the left.
@R3DF00T The back and to the left motion would also be consistent with severe right side damage as each hemisphere of the brain controls the opposite side.
Radically changed my line of reasoning to see two events,
1 - The photo of JFK's head makes it clear that the fatal bullet entered his forehead right we can see the bullet entrance hole, which is compatible with the signal that he's back. So that the gunman was shot in a freight jfk Algul 20 degrees, he was probably on the viaduct
Will a LNer please explain how a bullet shot into the back below the shoulder blades passes through the throat (at an angle downward) then passes through Connally's rib cage (hitting bone) (leaving fragments) then thru his wrist (leaving fragments) then embeds itself in Connally's thigh while remaining completely intact? How can ANYBODY be stupid enough to believe that?
LHO had vertigo, he couldn't even drive a car, and he made the greatest shot in the world, give me a fucking break!
They're using Manni's with the bolt tweaked and a sighted in scope, LHO had neither. LHO's first and should have been the best shot missed by 11', how could that be possible? These shooter's aren't performing the same/right test, have them shoot a target 11' away, then start the target moving, then make a shot in the back, then a head shot in 6 secs using an off the shelf Manni with an off sighted scope, good luck. The Zep film is altered anyway, the limo slowed or stopped, the timing is way off
@joaoisobr 1. complete lie. His prints were on boxes used to support the rifle. Oh and, uh...he worked there.
2. his head clearly moves forward at impact (Zframes 312 to 314), then back in the opposite direction of the energy leaving his head.
3. huh?
4. another lie. Gov.Connoly was sitting 6 inches inboard and lower than JFK on a jump seat, he was also turned to to the right. Confirmed by the Zapruder film. There's no way Gov Connolly COULDN't be hit by a bullet leaving JFK's throat.
@joaoisobr Oswald WAS in the TSBD at the time the shooting took place. The Dallas Police have him as being in the lunch room. However, if he was in the nest at that time, he would have had to make it down all those stairs to the second floor lunch room in all that time, past two witnesses who never saw him.
The magic bullet theory is only true if you assume a few things like that the seats and JFK/Conally were lined up just perfectly for it to be true.
@joaoisobr gee, he denied doing it huh? well, I guess he didn't then. especially since they'd have never found him if he just left his job and moved away from Dallas.
@andrelebaron I explain more broadly about your opinions, as I use the translator sometimes takes me to understand what you are talking about. I am one of thousands who were intrigued by the case and its peculiarities.
In your opinion what happened in dia.quem killed jfk in your opinion?
@joaoisobr the idea that he's innocent because he said he didn't do it is silly. Guilty people deny their guilt all the time. the idea that he could have escaped dallas is also silly. they knew who he was. the idea that he couldn't have made the shot is silly. He regularly practiced with that rifle and actually scored better in the Marines on rapid fire than single shot at way more distance. the idea of conspiracy is silly because the motorcade route was announced after he took the job.
@uranorexic Mr. Dodgy your words are too mispelled you don't make sense at all you sound like Winning !!!
Charlie Sheen, are you sniffing something. For sure I am not expecting and don't want your approval for the cowboys. I prefer the approval of someone poised, intelligent with a lot of common sense.
@uranorexic... I don't know what you have been watching but open your eye's man oswald didn't do that sh*t. These we're professional shooter's. And knew what they we're doing and beside's that the video was edited i have been studying this for years...But i'm not gonna waste my time arguing about it.
@uranorexic The only single piece of physical (black & white) credible evidence of other shooters is the "COWBOYS" not because I am the author, it could be anybody else. You're doing mockery now, but one day will hit home.
@uranorexic I do not care if the shooter was Oswald or anybody else, what I care is that there was a grand conspiracy and several shooters were there to assassinate JFK. He could be one of the shooters but made only one shot from 6th floor, I do not care who was there. But instead, no he is the lone shooter that is the NCT
@Verdelufe I doubt he was even up there. The owner of the TSBD was a CIA asset. The floor in the 6th floor was being repaired that day. How hard would it have been for the hit team to disguise themselves as a floor repair company, and carry in the rifle with some of their equipment? Malcolm Wallace's prints were also on the boxes up there too, and this guy has some astonishing connections to Lyndon Johnson - the very man Howard Hunt named as having Kennedy "gotten rid of."
@uranorexic Zapruder was standing right near there. You're a real IDIOT when comes to analyse anything, Zapruder was making the film at the moment of the shooting, how can he notice or see anything, everybody
was looking at the motorcade not the cowboys, or trying to see snipers in the area, Capisce MULE.
@uranorexic You base all your theory on WC and forgot that Henry Ford confessed that CIA destroyed a lot of classified material. Therefore stop with fragments, Oswald's rifle, it was planted. Analyse something of your own forget the cliche.
@Verdelufe It wasn't Oswald's rifle. If it was, then explain why the backyard photographs taken by Marina show his rifle with sling mounts on the bottom, but on the Warren Commission exhibits showing the rifle, they mysteriously vanished? Oswald's rifle didn't do the shoot. A similar rifle mocked up to look like his did do the shoot, and the FBI lied to investigators and passed off Oswald's rifle as the one that did the shoot. His palm print only appeared AFTER he was dead right?
@uranorexic You have not catched yet One Rifle or Two, Someone shot with another Carcano with Slings on the side not Oswald's slings on the bottom. He was negative with his cheeks, no powder, hands have some powder but was waved because dust from the boxes at TSBD. The Oswald's fingerprints showed up at rifle from 6ht floor with slings on the side after his death, they took his fingerprint dead. His real rifle with the slings on the bottom was gone.The conspirators screwed up then tried to fix.
@uranorexic The shots were : 1) Daltex Building hit the curb 2) 6th floor hit Connally 3) Grassy Knoll cross Elm street hit throat, hole in the windshield 4) Cowboys behind fence missed 5) Head shot from Grassy Knoll.
Cowboys is called 3rd shot because 2 of these 5 shots were simultaneoslly. No shot from behind hit JFK.
@uranorexic We are posting for a couple of days and you still did not address " One Rifle or Two" believe me you have a problem. STOP FUCKING DODGING !!!
@uranorexic Stop with the Reflection of Sunlight in the Background, You hate to admitted it was the reflexion of
their hats, you know that. You talked too much, don't pay attention to the videos you watch. You create things out your mind, I am showing real black and white facts. I know that for you to accept the cowboys is like ask you to change your gender, you would be in a twilight zone.
@uranorexic You committed a huge GAFFE saying Oswald was the lone shooter and part of the conspiracy
only if the conspiracy was created by you. The conspirators would never leave a looser at window shooting 3 bullets and the crowd looking at. Wake Up, Wise Up !!!
@uranorexic Go to video : Bill O'Reilly reports on CIA connection to JFK assassination. There you will find out who was David Phillips, do not call me stupid and no more Bull Shit, OK !!! be a man and not a MAD MAN.
@uranorexic I am not stupid Dodgy, I will explain the reason LHO was framed all the way. First off LHO was himself a CIA agent in a lower level position like a part time job and David Phillips told him what to do before and after the shooting stay in the TSBD then go to Texas Theater, Oswald follows the instructions, he knew about the plot but never could image he was going to be framed (PATSY). No more stupid and no more curtain rods before looking "One Rifle or Two" Am I wrong ? Answer !!!
@uranorexic whatever moron I have tried to explain things to you in a very basic manner which you are still incapabl of understanding, now fuck off and go play medal of honor.
@uranorexic Stupidity of monumental proportions is thinking a below average marxman is capable of making an above average shot. But hey, you rea right ,stupidity on a monumental scale would be you for sure.
@uranorexic at the proper distance and or time. So again, its not that hard to understand that it is highly unlikely that Oswald was able to make that shot. Now for someone who is experienced and has killed before, it would be a very easy shot.
@uranorexic at the proper distance and or time. So again, its not that hard to understand that it is highly unlikely that Oswald was able to make that shot. But hey, you read some books on shooting so you know.
@uranorexic because shooting a moving target under pressure is lightyears different from shooting at a stationary piece of paper under no pressure. Example soldier accuracy in War is actually very poor, as is the accuracy of say an inexperienced Hunter. One of the most important aspects of making a good shot is gone, your breathing, it becomes iradic and short, their muscles are tense and they will inevitably jerk off target. They also will have ZERO Idea how far to actually lead a target.
Mr. Dodgy you throw me a bunch of garbage that you take out of you fucking mind and never answer or explained anything, it is impossible to continue a coherent discussion. Bye !!! Mr. Dodgy Neighborhood !!! It is a beautiful day in the neighborhood, beautiful day in the neighborhood, would you be my, could you be my, my neighbor .......
@uranorexic Good Morning Mr. Dodgy. Any alibi for LHO would not work because he was set will rifle bought by mail, he was buying Coke at lunch room on 2nd floor. He could be at your grandfather's home at the time of shooting, it does not matter PATSY is PATSY huge propaganda machine & WC adjusting everything. Back to my 4 videos Mr. Dodgy (Low IQ) not even observe a video you are good at, you said Nix film 300% was sun light, It was their cowboys hat reflection from the rifle flash BEAST !
@uranorexic Any moron can easily repeat what they were told, which you are doing perfectly, not many again can think for themselves and think beyond, which you are incapable of. now, back to your mastery of balllistics, are you able to tell me the dope required to lead and hit a moving target at just under 100 yards or not? You talk like an expert with nothing of substance to say.
@SlayerofFiction CIA thought in every detail, find a patsy and others details specially to have several snipers in different locations Oswald could not be there in the window shooting 3 bullets(actually was 4 maybe 5 - 2 simultaneouly) and call the attention of the crowd below, so from every sniper nest ONE SINGLE BULLET. Mr. Dodgy did not even mention the 4 videos that one of sniper nest were found by myself. "Cowboy's Sniper Nest." Breaking News !!! Mr.Dodgy hates new evidence."
@uranorexic I simply do not care what most people say. Most people will never question anything on any level, apparently you are one of t hem, with a little bit of thought it is clear that not everything from that day add up, thus why there is a conspiracy, but you have the right to be a complete and total idiot and believe everything you are told and to never ask the obvious questions. that is your right, but do not belittle those who seek the truth.
@SlayerofFiction Me either, I don't know how I could respond to Mr. Dodgy that long, when he posts it is a total tornado, you don't know if he is trying to confused you to forget about your question or he is a clown or both.
@uranorexic And based upon video analysis we know that the head shot did not come from behind and above. Now I actually know one of the shooters who participated in said test, however considering his vast qualifications shooting a moving rabbit sized object at under 100 yrds would be like you shooting at point blank. Now again, are you able to answer my questions or not? I guess not, thus your intent on redirection and constant insults.
@uranorexic So I am able to base my analysis based upon three decades of experience in the field. I stated why your average moron such as yourself would not be very unlikely to make the shot even once. Now you however base your analysis apparently upon nothing. We know kennedy was shot, Check, we know there were bullet fragments, two big fucking surprises, the queastion again is whether or not oswald could and did make the shots, based upon his history, that is highly unlikely.
@uranorexic So you are unable to do the basic math and unable to actually back your own argument. No surprise at all. Now go run along and play some Medal of Honor and keep pretending.
And the bullet has nothing to do with Oswalds ability to make the shot, which I have staetd over and over again. Your argument hinges around whether or not Kennedy was actually shot, at no place did I say he was not, seriously, are you that fucking stooopid? Or is it simply because you cannot back up your own argument on any level?
@uranorexic So can you answer me or not? I will help you partially you will need to know the muzzle velocity, based on what conditions of said day?, you will also need to know the ballistic coefecient the angle of target (which you mentioned earlier) and the speed of object traveling. Now show me the math based on a 100 yard zero what his scope would be adjusted at also based upon that scopes minute of angle adjustments.
@uranorexic But you can tell me the two types and the math required in order for him to hold his rectile dead on Kennedy in order for his bullet to impact. Start now and show your work.
@uranorexic Lemme help ya what is involved in 1000 yard shooting, I adjust my dope or scope settings for Wind, altitude, humidity, rotation of the earth and spin drift (the amount a bullets rotation will carry it off target only compensated for at extreme long ranges). There R two ways to make this shot, oswald as someone with only basic firearms experience would not know how to do eather of them.
@uranorexic You saying that I believe anything anybody says and never bother to verify it. I did the 4 videos by my own and everybody denied what I found before I released them, did you have a chance to look at them and deny too, but explaining what is wrong with the videos on the details.
@uranorexic The lady who worked as telephone operator confirmed she received a call from LBJ and that I believe you can see at The men who killed Kennedy.
Crenshaw sold books after 30 years there was a code of ethics not to make money out of what they saw. What want Vincent Bugliosi & Posner who belong to your team are doing, selling books of lies. Crenshaw had to tell what happened at Parkland before he dies he was savings lives before, do you see anywrong for us to find out the truth.
@uranorexic After you debunk my 4 videos take a look at Dr. Charles Crenshaw at " Evidence of Revision : JFK Assassination Rarities" between 36:00 to 46:00 min. I will not mind if you denied my 4 videos but If you denied what the Doctor said I think you became "JFK NUT" who does not listen to anybody too much flaps and skulls you think you are "THE KING OF TRUTH"
The last 2 were almost together I thought. is this right?
RUBENV1960 5 days ago
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inspectorcritic 1 week ago
Please watch LBJ TAPES: Kennedy Assassination. It's the phone call between hoover and LBJ a week after the assassination. 3 bullets: 2 into the president and 1 separate bullet into the governor. Bullets two and three were right after each other per the Connally and Jakie testimony.
bobzeda 1 week ago
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flouride666 2 weeks ago
its a lot easier shooting at a cart in a field, with repeated practice attempts, than shooting at a president in a parade, one attempt, no do overs..
wizardoflawz 3 weeks ago
@wizardoflawz no, Oswald had two do-overs. He missed the first shot. Obviously, it's quite possible to do, so anyone arguing Oswald couldn't have fired the shots is either a liar or idiot. That's the point of the exercise.
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@flouride666 possible but not probable. I will say that Oswald's rifle was probably newer than the one's tested. But they say the scope was also misaligned. I dont see why it would be idiotic to be skeptical.
wizardoflawz 3 weeks ago
JFK was a great mind and did a lot of good for the minorities but he did do a hell of a lot of damage to US credibility, he personally started and lost 2 wars, made deals with the same mafia he prosecuted and let's not forget where the Kennedy fortune comes from, bootlegging. And last but not least he started printing free US currency which sounds good but no profit can be made internationally if you have this currency so US business men would lose to other countries economically,then what?Death
timbo550 3 weeks ago
@timbo550 By credibility i believe you mean the certainty that the US will back up corporations and help them to exploit other small nations.
wizardoflawz 3 weeks ago
Oswald shot at the back of JFK, grasy knoll guy shot Connally and the man on the triple overpass got the headshot, each shooting 1 to 2 times. It's hard to say who got what shot but Oswald didn't get the headshot, we know that for a fact.Every theory out is right because it was CIA and all it's assets that had him killed. The mafia was it's biggest asset then with the whole Cuba thing. Every major power gained from his death. It had to be done, the guy lost 2 wars started printing money....
timbo550 3 weeks ago
@timbo550 why do people like you choose to believe these idiotic fairy tales? Both bullets came from behind. From Oswald.
flouride666 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@flouride666 Are you actually a certified retard? How the hell anyone can say the shots came from behind... when simple physics and a set of eyes can see from the Zapruder film that he was shot from the front... is beyond me. So I can only come to the conclusion that you are a retard.
frankmat 2 weeks ago
@frankmat simple physics...you ARE aware that bullets don't have the force to actually knock people around like in action movies, right? That JFK's head moving back (after first moving forward) is not any indication of where the shots came from?
flouride666 2 weeks ago
@flouride666 Really? So it was just a summer breeze that knocked his head back? Exactly what caused his head to jerk back like that at the exact moment he was shot? You talk about "logic" and then come up with the most ridiculous illogical 'theories'.
So I am waiting... you tell me what caused JFK's head to jerk back like that? Was it a groovy tune coming on the radio at that exact moment?
frankmat 2 weeks ago
@frankmat for the answer, search for "P&T-BS-Conspiracy Theories Part 3/3 (HQ)" and skip to about 7:30. It was the exit wound. However, again, it's simple physics: the force of the bullet could not have caused him to move. So whatever the reason, it wasn't because he was shot from the front.
flouride666 2 weeks ago
@flouride666 So in other words... you have absolutely no idea why his head jerks back.... because there is no LOGICAL reason for it..... so you cannot give me one.
What you are.... is a patriot.... who would never believe your people would kill their own for political reasons. I bet you think muslims did 9/11 as well right?
Patriotism like religion is just another form of brainwashing... and the funny thing is you have absolutely no idea how affected your thinking is.
frankmat 2 weeks ago
@frankmat I gave you the exact reason, the exit wound. Again, think about physics. Bullets don't have the force to move his head, it's that simple. What is your specific criticism with the explanation of the exit wound being the reason for JFK's head movement? What do you propose happened? Or do you simply choose to believe it wasn't Oswald, and ignore the evidence?
flouride666 2 weeks ago
@flouride666 Evidence? What evidence that Oswald did it. The evidence has already been shown to be flimsy and planted. In fact you want evidence... what about the death bed confession by Howard E Hunt? Do we no longer take confessions for murder as evidence? Or do you just conveniently ignore what doesn't fit your agenda?
frankmat 2 weeks ago
@frankmat all of the evidence points to Oswald. It was his gun that fired the bullets. His gun was found in the window. He left the scene (his job) with no explanation. Shot a cop. Resisted arrest. He tried to assassinate Gen. Walker too, his wife confirmed it. Many people have "confessed" to killing JFK (James Files, Robert Morrow, etc), and obviously they can't all be telling the truth, so no, Hunt's confession does not prove anything at all. Didn't you want to say something about physics?
flouride666 2 weeks ago
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The only thing I want to know is : WHO KILL JFK ans WHY ? I dont care about number of shots, from where, closeup of blure withe spot or other trajectory... WHO kill this man and WHY ?
RAREpicture 4 weeks ago
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SUSSTURUCU 1 month ago
Who benefitted from murdering Kennedy? You need 1) motive and 2) means. Oswald didn't do it, so 3) is who covered it up? His head goes back and to the left, a shot from the front right. Why did LBJ order the limo to be immediately rebuilt before it could be inspected? Who appointed to the Warren commission Kennedy's biggest enemies to investigate his murder, and why? These are the real questions to ask.
4812megan 1 month ago
@4812megan Oswald did it. Motive and means obvious and well-documented for anyone sane enough to understand facts.
flouride666 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
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Did they try it with a misaligned 'scope?
I suspect not.
GravityBoy72 1 month ago
Did they try it with a misaligned 'scope?
I suspect not.
GravityBoy72 1 month ago 2
Oswald was an expert marksman.
Enough said.
George Vreeland Hill
GeorgeVreelandHill 1 month ago
@GeorgeVreelandHill lol
Moreofthesamez 4 weeks ago
@GeorgeVreelandHill
Oswald was NOT an expert marksman. He was a non-qual on his first attempt on the marksman test. He barely passed the test the second. Two marine rifle instructors testified to this at the Warren commission and said they didn't believe it was possible for Oswald to make the shots because they had trouble doing it. AND they said Oswald has been a NON0-QUAL (non- qualified or failed).
bobzeda 3 weeks ago
@bobzeda no. Sergeant Zahm's testimony was: "I would say in the Marine Corps he is a good shot, slightly above average, and as compared to average male of his age throughout the United States, that he is an excellent shot." Regarding the second shot itself, Sergeant Zahm said "with the equipment he had and with his ability I consider it a very easy shot." this is in chapter IV of the unabridged Warren report. What you are claiming is in the report is just made-up nonsense.
flouride666 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@flouride666 in other words, compared to my grandmother, he is an excellent shot. the average male doesn't practice shooting.
wizardoflawz 3 weeks ago
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@wizardoflawz read it slowly: ""with the equipment he had and with his ability I consider it a very easy shot."
flouride666 3 weeks ago
This is all part of the straw man argument, people spent years debating if the shots could be fired at a certain speed while maintaining any kind of accuracy.
UNIQUE1982 1 month ago
oswald used Carcano M38 7.35mm caliber and not 6.5x52mm
SOULFLYSI 1 month ago
Notice there are no trees in the way during this re-enactment - there were trees in the way at the Book Depository. And yes, as others have pointed out, it's questionable as to whether Dan Rather should be participating in this considering his own tainted history on this issue where he misrepresented to the public the contents of the Zapruder film.
TheLensSolution 2 months ago
@TheLensSolution There was one oak or elm tree that did NOT present any obstruction on the first shot and most definitely didn't present on on the last. What is so hard to understand?
cookiepush1 1 month ago
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irish89055 2 months ago
Dan Rather said the President's head jerked "forward with considerable violence" when describing Zapruder tape on CBS. In on the cover-up from the start. Also, the limo slowed down, to make sure of the hit.
draoi99 2 months ago
Dan Rather is a lying new world order rat bastard who was promoted after he lied through his teeth after he was allowed to report on the Zapruder film. This rat claimed JFK's head went forward instead of back. Talk about a government operative.
benmacabre 2 months ago
My favorite, which I'm intellectually flabbergasted at each time I hear it, is the constant parroting of, "Back and to the left, back and to the left". You need not rely on men expert in ballistic forensics (although you should if you are a layman). Just watch the disturbing Zapruder film. Even at normal speed you can see the Presidents head pitch slightly forward and to the right by the impact and then jerk back and to the left as every nerve and muscle in his body reacts to the shock.
cookiepush1 2 months ago in playlist DTwnTruthHunter
To everybody who belive the official version, why even bother discussing it if you already have made up your mind?
Unlees you are actually doubting the official version.
EvilPoet85 3 months ago
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No one has tested only the movements of the second. and third. shots, proven by video zapruther takes only 4 seconds. If testing will easily see that the conspiracy existed. Think LHO fired the second time, reloaded the gun, missed the target, had to find again the head moving from jfk to 90 feet away and shoot. Impossible in 4 seconds!. LHO was 24, a boy, would never have achieved. Shooter 24 years of practice. as the best in the world could not
joaoisobr 3 months ago
This shooting discusion is pointless all, it proves is that it is possible for a trained marksman to kill kennedy from the 6th floor window using three shots in 6 sec.
It does not prove that Oswald fired the rifle.
I know he suposelly owned it, but it still does'nt prove anything.
EvilPoet85 3 months ago
@EvilPoet85 LHO's fingerprints were found on the boxes that supported the rifle near the window. His palm print on the rifle that he bought using an alias name....the 3 shell casings that matched the rifle found near the window.....he had no alibi co workers. Pictures of him holding the damn rifle...this isn't rocket science folks.
clev9980 3 months ago
@clev9980 The parafin and nitrate test were inconclusive, it only showed gunpowder residue on his right hand indicating that he had fired a handgun , if he had fired a rifle the residue would also be on his cheek, it were not.
He worked on the sixht floor wich can explain fingerprints on boxes, even though fingerprints dont last long on cardboard so claiming fingerprints where on the boxes is impossible to prove today. Yes he clearly owned the rifle, but that does'nt prove he fired it.
EvilPoet85 3 months ago
@EvilPoet85 Then please explain to the jury if you were a defense attorney how exactly his rifle got to the 6th floor ? lol Explain why after the police sealed off the building...Oswald was the ONLY employee NOT accounted for ? Explain why he lied to police saying he had a coke with 2 co workers...who later said they were not with him ? lmao...
clev9980 3 months ago
@EvilPoet85 Fibers from the blanket at Ruth Paine's house where the rifle was kept wrapped were found on the rifle. Fibers from LHO's shirt he was wearing were found between the stock and butt plate. LHo had not reported the rifle stolen. Marina knew of the rifle and where he kept it at the Paine house. She thought it was still in the blanket and nearly fainted when she saw it was missing. There were witnesses who saw him firing the rifle from the TSBD. Of course he fired the rifle!
autoad 2 months ago
@autoad You will never convince the conspiracy nuts...more meds please..lol
clev9980 2 months ago
@clev9980 As a reformed conspiracy loon I'm aware of the deluded passions held by some of the conspiracy nuts. Some are so obsessively fixated on "conspiracy" they miss the obvious and deny the proven.
autoad 2 months ago
@autoad go soak your head, shill
benmacabre 2 months ago
@autoad , liar. No-one saw him firing. You discredited yourself with that one line.
benmacabre 2 months ago
@benmacabre Howard Brennen and Amos Euins witnessed Oswald shooting at the presidential limo.
You discredited yourself which is typical of a conspiracy loon.
autoad 2 months ago
@autoad Nobody witnessed Oswald shooting at anything. Please refrain from posting disinformation.
draoi99 2 months ago
@draoi99 Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. There were witnesses who saw LHO shooting from the 6th floor of the TSBD and ZERO witnesses who saw anyone shooting from the knoll.
You can deny the existence of witnesses (heaven knows the conspiracy loons have been doing it for decades) but it doesn't change the fact they existed In addition, those that saw LHO firing reported what they saw immediately. Those who "saw" someone on the knoll took years to say anything.
autoad 2 months ago
@autoad Dude, nobody saw Oswald shoot anyone that day. Stop spreading falehoods.
draoi99 2 months ago
@draoi99 hey dweeb... Several people saw a rifle in the window. The guys in the window below(5th floor) watching heard the clicking and shots just above their heads..
What say you Jesse? Can you believe that clown was a governor? Then again considering politics of recent years...
irish89055 2 months ago
@irish89055 Nobody saw Oswald at the window, nobody saw Oswald shoot anyone that day. Try to think logically about what you're saying please because right now I feel a little sorry for you.
draoi99 2 months ago
@draoi99 Don't feel sorry for me. I know what I'm talking about. I've been a student of the assassination since 1965.
autoad 2 months ago
@autoad he said the same to me autoad... Draoi99 is just another of the many kooks on youtube regarding the Kennedy assasssination..
irish89055 2 months ago
@draoi99 hey stupid, you can virtually see him in some of the video footage looking towards the TSBD... ask the two black guys that worked there and were viewing from the window one floor below... though their prob dead now.. Oh, wait, must be part of a conspiracy then....
irish89055 2 months ago
@irish89055 No you can't stop lying and spreading disinfo. What is your motivation to muddy the waters like this?
draoi99 2 months ago
@irish89055 So the two black guys see LHO shooting at the president? Before you call people names you should think about your simple interpretation of information, just because they claimed to have heard the shots (including the bolt action) does not mean it was Oswald. The evidence there was multiple shooters is and was abundant.
UNIQUE1982 1 month ago
@UNIQUE1982 Meanwhile, Howard Brennan, a steamfitter who was sitting across the street from the Texas School Book Depository, notified police that as he watched the motorcade go by, he heard a shot come from above, and looked up to see a man with a rifle make another shot from a corner window on the sixth floor. He had seen the same man minutes earlier looking out the window.[39] Brennan gave a description of the shooter,[40] which was broadcast to all Dallas police at 12:45 p.m., 12:48 p.m.
irish89055 1 month ago
@irish89055 Again "your simple interpretation of information", Brennan gave a description of the shooter, really, including height? What kind of description can you give of someone you see on the 6th floor for a few seconds at best?
UNIQUE1982 1 month ago
@UNIQUE1982 Amos Lee Euins, a 15-year-old ninth grade student, stated that he was facing the Depository as the motorcade turned the corner at Elm and Houston. He recalled:
Then I was standing here, and as the motorcade turned the corner, I was facing, looking dead at the building. And so I seen this pipe thing sticking out the window. I wasn't paying too much attention to it. Then when the first shot was fired, I started looking around, thinking it was a backfire.
irish89055 1 month ago
@UNIQUE1982 Everybody else started looking around. Then I looked up at the window, and he shot again.13
After witnessing the first shots, Euins hid behind a fountain bench and saw the man shoot again from the window in the southeast corner of the Depository's sixth floor.14 According to Euins, the man had one hand on the barrel and the other on the trigger. he reported his observations to Sgt. D. V. Harkness of the Dallas Police
irish89055 1 month ago
@irish89055 Even if there was a shooter in the window described the shooting happened in the space of 6-8 Seconds and therefore, if he did not look up until after the first shot that leaves less than 4-5 seconds. And in that time he found cover behind a bench and managed to give a description but also how the gun was held.
Again even if this is true, it only puts emphasis on your trust of eye witnesses, and therefore I can list those who heard a gunshot and see activity on the knoll.
UNIQUE1982 1 month ago
@EvilPoet85 Supposedly owned it? It was absolutely and positively proved beyond doubt that he owned it. Read the relevant parts of the Warren Commission Report. This is the problem with the conspiracy theorists. They take obvious incontrovertible evidence and then make statement such as ,"supposedly owned it" . Accept the evidence. It's been 50 years and NOT ONE SHRED of data, by men and women committed to the theory of conspiracy, has been proffered. Do you find that strange?
cookiepush1 2 months ago in playlist DTwnTruthHunter
@cookiepush1
"ONE SHRED of data, by men and women committed to the theory of conspiracy, has been proffered. Do you find that strange?"
You obviously haven't looked into it for yourself.
It's just a fact that a single man with a Carcano rifle cannot do the damage that he allegedly done. Oswald either had fellow snipers, which there were sightings of, or he didn't do it at all and he was placed for the blame/scapegoat.
AGeekWithAShotgun 2 months ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun It IS a fact a single man can accurately fire three shots with a Mannlicher Carcano and do the damage he did without any help.
It's been proven with clear and convincing evidence that LHO fired the three shots and all the shots fired came from his M/C.
Everything else involving conspiracies is a waste of time.
autoad 2 months ago
@autoad
3 Frenchmen have already admitted to being involved in the assassination.
Stop believing the Establishment.
AGeekWithAShotgun 2 months ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun...and so didn't E Howard Hunt and Charles Harrelson and James Files.
You have a problem; too many confessors and not enough assassinations.
autoad 2 months ago
One thing to remember is that these men are all GOOD shots and Oswald sucked. he scored sharpshooter briefly and fell back to the lowest rating of marksman. also remember he MISSED general Walker at LESS then the distance kenendy was and he had a CLEAR shot at a SITTING target that was LARGER than the back of a human head. Oswald also MISSED his first shot and was dicharged for shooting himself in the elbow with his OWN pistol.
vlunney 3 months ago
1.40 - 1.51min. Rather says "37 attempts to fire 3 shots. 17 times had to be called 'no fire' because of trouble with the rifle". That isnt a reliable weapon. Conspiracists will say why would Oswald choose such a shitty weapon? The answer is he was poor with no money and was a spendthrift. I ask why would conspiracists plant such an unreliable weapon that could jam up at any given moment? This is the lynchpin of the plot - the weapon. Why not plant an automatic rifle and tie it to Oswald?
genericgeorge 3 months ago
feel real big shootin an un armed man thats some pussy shit
fickendatsmooshy 3 months ago
I always thought that the JFK conspiracy was very plausible. After the 9/11 conspiracy industry showed me how much people were willing to distort facts and exaggerate claims for book deals, radio shows, advertising, money etc.. I can see how the Kennedy assassination developed in the same way, as there is an industry worth millions that depend on distorted claims.
emanemos1 3 months ago
This makes the claim that the gun couldn't be operated that quickly as not a very strong claim, as it can. Oswald's wife said he would do dry runs with the bolt action rifle sitting on his porch over an over. He was seen at target ranges speed shooting. He was familiar with his weapon and none of these experts were.
emanemos1 4 months ago
@emanemos1 and furthmore...oswalds first shot missed kennedy...the 2nd shot hit the upper back..non lethal shot...the 3rd finally hit the head....
clev9980 3 months ago
Personally do not think the second shot struck JFK leaves his body in an unlikely trajectory Konely wounded.
I do not believe in the killings of 16 people in the first year and 80 people in 1976 is related to the case Coincidence.
I do not think LHO was murdered two days after the death of JFH by a mobster who loved her so much and the President was furious with the attitude of human milk, it is not possible, or otherwise LHO and most unlucky person in the world.
joaoisobr 4 months ago
I would like to have access to the records show that he was an excellent sniper! and always practiced shooting with the rifle. The testimony we heard and that when he was served a good shot. I understand that LHO shot JFK does not reveal this to the autopsy photo shows a hole in the forehead at the front of the head of JFK, JFK LHO was running behind, I believe this evidence.
joaoisobr 4 months ago
If you guys still think Oswald did it, inspect the sling mounting rings on the rifle. In his backyard photos, it is shown as being on the rifle. On the rifle which the Warren Commission used in their exhibit, it is not there.
Meaning - Oswald's rifle didn't kill Kennedy.
R3DF00T 4 months ago
Me explique de maneira mais abrangente suas opnioes a respeito, como uso o tradutor as vezes demoro a entender do que se esta falando. Sou um dos milhares que ficaram intrigados com o caso e suas particularidades.
Em sua opniao o que aconteceu no dia.quem matou jfk em sua opniao?
joaoisobr 4 months ago
concluding
both autopsy photo as the photo showed a 313 frame shot in front of the overpass jfk probably was LHO ago, fatal shot was not fired by LHO;
joaoisobr 4 months ago
zapruther saw the movie frame by frame, the frame 313 is incontestable see if a blood blister on the head and the bullet entering JFK head on! shot forward. if the fence anywhere it would have the shooter Algul 20 degrees, shot came from the viaduct
joaoisobr 4 months ago
@joaoisobr Careful analysis of the Zapruder film has shown Kennedy was hit from the rear moving his head slightly forward about a split second before he is struck just above the right temple and you see his head explode. This proves that the Dictabelt Recording WAS taken in the area, not where the "experts" place it far away from there. Four shots. That means that Oswald did not act alone, and if you ask me I don't think he did it at all. Check out the rifle and its missing sling rings.
R3DF00T 4 months ago
@R3DF00TI read about the account of the differences of the rings the rifle, perfect.
You said four shots were, can you explain the third and fourth shots in your version.
Who gave the third shot was where?
Who gave the room where he shot in your opinion where it was?
Many thanks for the information I do have a different view and consistent
joaoisobr 4 months ago
@joaoisobr There's no point in trying to figure out who shot the third shot. I mean if you go and look at videos on here about the Zapruder Film you can see that before the fatal headshot, Kennedy's head bobs slightly forward - meaning he is hit by a shot from the rear, and then the fatal one hits him above the temple and he flies back and to the left. This is also consistent to what James Files says. In his version, he claims Chuck Nicoletti fired the third shot.
R3DF00T 4 months ago
@R3DF00T James Files is nothing but a convict with nothing better to do, so he went along with someones scheme to sell more conspiracy. As Files relates his tale, he does so in a way that indicates rehearsal, extensive rehearsal in which he seems bothered with at times. He is not relating his own experience, he would talk more fluidly if it was so. This is obvious in his interview.
emanemos1 3 months ago
@R3DF00T Files has no anecdotes, no sudden interruption of train of thought by occurrence of real memory. He speaks almost monotone and tired at times, like one would be if they were rehearsing something. His description is factual, even though he was supposed to be there, he recalls events in ordered sequence with the details not indicative of actual experience. "I got in the car, we drove to blahbalh. "So and so got out of the left side."
emanemos1 3 months ago
@R3DF00T I reviewed the tape, a considerable amount of time elapses before the head motion(back and to the left) and the halo of blood from the impact of the bullet. The motion you see is not just his head but his whole body, not from the force of impact, but from the severe neurological damage. I've seen the entrance wound and though I'm not certain, it's likely the bullet plowed through the basal ganglia, which inhibits movement accounting for the body jerking back and to the left.
emanemos1 3 months ago
@R3DF00T The back and to the left motion would also be consistent with severe right side damage as each hemisphere of the brain controls the opposite side.
emanemos1 3 months ago
Radically changed my line of reasoning to see two events,
1 - The photo of JFK's head makes it clear that the fatal bullet entered his forehead right we can see the bullet entrance hole, which is compatible with the signal that he's back. So that the gunman was shot in a freight jfk Algul 20 degrees, he was probably on the viaduct
joaoisobr 4 months ago
Will a LNer please explain how a bullet shot into the back below the shoulder blades passes through the throat (at an angle downward) then passes through Connally's rib cage (hitting bone) (leaving fragments) then thru his wrist (leaving fragments) then embeds itself in Connally's thigh while remaining completely intact? How can ANYBODY be stupid enough to believe that?
LHO had vertigo, he couldn't even drive a car, and he made the greatest shot in the world, give me a fucking break!
Tropia 4 months ago
They're using Manni's with the bolt tweaked and a sighted in scope, LHO had neither. LHO's first and should have been the best shot missed by 11', how could that be possible? These shooter's aren't performing the same/right test, have them shoot a target 11' away, then start the target moving, then make a shot in the back, then a head shot in 6 secs using an off the shelf Manni with an off sighted scope, good luck. The Zep film is altered anyway, the limo slowed or stopped, the timing is way off
Tropia 4 months ago
1-LHO was never at the crime scene.
2 - The fatal shot is fired around the next street, jfk head moves to the side violently.
3 - No criminal organization put in the hands of LHO a boy of 24 years encumbered kill the most important man in the world.
4 - The movement of the magic bullet is impossible, Conely are injuries to another shot.
joaoisobr 5 months ago
@joaoisobr 1. complete lie. His prints were on boxes used to support the rifle. Oh and, uh...he worked there.
2. his head clearly moves forward at impact (Zframes 312 to 314), then back in the opposite direction of the energy leaving his head.
3. huh?
4. another lie. Gov.Connoly was sitting 6 inches inboard and lower than JFK on a jump seat, he was also turned to to the right. Confirmed by the Zapruder film. There's no way Gov Connolly COULDN't be hit by a bullet leaving JFK's throat.
frankdrebin 4 months ago
@joaoisobr Oswald WAS in the TSBD at the time the shooting took place. The Dallas Police have him as being in the lunch room. However, if he was in the nest at that time, he would have had to make it down all those stairs to the second floor lunch room in all that time, past two witnesses who never saw him.
The magic bullet theory is only true if you assume a few things like that the seats and JFK/Conally were lined up just perfectly for it to be true.
R3DF00T 4 months ago
1 - LHO Why not choose a semi-automatic weapon as he had little time to shoot.
2 - LHO Why not take a short bus and disappeared from Dallas, to another city, would never be discovered.
3 - Why LHO denied the crime! when captured.
4 - Because the guards were not protecting the car back from the head of JFK
5 - If LHO was the author of shooting what was your motivation
joaoisobr 5 months ago
@joaoisobr 1. LHO was poor, and bat shit crazy.
2. It was a matter of time before he was a suspect. He worked at the TSBD. He fit the description given by witnesses who saw him do the shooting.
3. Because criminals sometimes do that, especially ones that commit their crimes for attention.
4. The motorcade was a/b to hit the highway, they were where they were supposed to be.
5. He was a complete fruitbat who wanted attention, he had also tried to assassinate someone else weeks earlier.
frankdrebin 4 months ago
@frankdrebin 6. He didn't have youtube as an outlet for spouting his nutjob ideas like joaoisobr.
andrelebaron 4 months ago
@joaoisobr gee, he denied doing it huh? well, I guess he didn't then. especially since they'd have never found him if he just left his job and moved away from Dallas.
andrelebaron 4 months ago
@andrelebaron I explain more broadly about your opinions, as I use the translator sometimes takes me to understand what you are talking about. I am one of thousands who were intrigued by the case and its peculiarities.
In your opinion what happened in dia.quem killed jfk in your opinion?
joaoisobr 4 months ago
@joaoisobr the idea that he's innocent because he said he didn't do it is silly. Guilty people deny their guilt all the time. the idea that he could have escaped dallas is also silly. they knew who he was. the idea that he couldn't have made the shot is silly. He regularly practiced with that rifle and actually scored better in the Marines on rapid fire than single shot at way more distance. the idea of conspiracy is silly because the motorcade route was announced after he took the job.
andrelebaron 4 months ago
if 6 seconds is the time, you only need to get off 2 shots in 6 seconds, does the first shot not start the sequence?
barkleysnickers 7 months ago
@barkleysnickers 3 shots mate.
YaHuWaHservant 5 months ago
@barkleysnickers it's 8.2 seconds. Oswald's first shot came at Zapruder frame 160. Oswald had plenty of time.
frankdrebin 4 months ago
@uranorexic ...Have it your way man,
blackfeatherarchery 9 months ago
@uranorexic Mr. Dodgy your words are too mispelled you don't make sense at all you sound like Winning !!!
Charlie Sheen, are you sniffing something. For sure I am not expecting and don't want your approval for the cowboys. I prefer the approval of someone poised, intelligent with a lot of common sense.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic... I don't know what you have been watching but open your eye's man oswald didn't do that sh*t. These we're professional shooter's. And knew what they we're doing and beside's that the video was edited i have been studying this for years...But i'm not gonna waste my time arguing about it.
blackfeatherarchery 9 months ago
@uranorexic The only single piece of physical (black & white) credible evidence of other shooters is the "COWBOYS" not because I am the author, it could be anybody else. You're doing mockery now, but one day will hit home.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic I do not care if the shooter was Oswald or anybody else, what I care is that there was a grand conspiracy and several shooters were there to assassinate JFK. He could be one of the shooters but made only one shot from 6th floor, I do not care who was there. But instead, no he is the lone shooter that is the NCT
20% morons claim. SNAP THE FUCKING OUT OF IT !!!
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@Verdelufe I doubt he was even up there. The owner of the TSBD was a CIA asset. The floor in the 6th floor was being repaired that day. How hard would it have been for the hit team to disguise themselves as a floor repair company, and carry in the rifle with some of their equipment? Malcolm Wallace's prints were also on the boxes up there too, and this guy has some astonishing connections to Lyndon Johnson - the very man Howard Hunt named as having Kennedy "gotten rid of."
R3DF00T 4 months ago
@uranorexic Zapruder was standing right near there. You're a real IDIOT when comes to analyse anything, Zapruder was making the film at the moment of the shooting, how can he notice or see anything, everybody
was looking at the motorcade not the cowboys, or trying to see snipers in the area, Capisce MULE.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic You base all your theory on WC and forgot that Henry Ford confessed that CIA destroyed a lot of classified material. Therefore stop with fragments, Oswald's rifle, it was planted. Analyse something of your own forget the cliche.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@Verdelufe It wasn't Oswald's rifle. If it was, then explain why the backyard photographs taken by Marina show his rifle with sling mounts on the bottom, but on the Warren Commission exhibits showing the rifle, they mysteriously vanished? Oswald's rifle didn't do the shoot. A similar rifle mocked up to look like his did do the shoot, and the FBI lied to investigators and passed off Oswald's rifle as the one that did the shoot. His palm print only appeared AFTER he was dead right?
R3DF00T 4 months ago
@R3DF00T You can see well at video "One Rifle or Two" the sling mounts.
Verdelufe 4 months ago
@uranorexic Finally you got something right, everybody called a FUNNY PERSON.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic Cowboys is nowhere because is breaking news that will be denied by morons forever.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic Are you relative of one of the 7 members of WC you only talk about their story.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic You have not catched yet One Rifle or Two, Someone shot with another Carcano with Slings on the side not Oswald's slings on the bottom. He was negative with his cheeks, no powder, hands have some powder but was waved because dust from the boxes at TSBD. The Oswald's fingerprints showed up at rifle from 6ht floor with slings on the side after his death, they took his fingerprint dead. His real rifle with the slings on the bottom was gone.The conspirators screwed up then tried to fix.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic What books do you want me to read Bugliosi & Posner.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic A bunch of rifles were all over the place specially in front of TSBD claiming there were SS.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic Snap out of it !!! Forget Bullet fragments and someone else used Oswald rifle.HOW DUMB !!!
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic The shots were : 1) Daltex Building hit the curb 2) 6th floor hit Connally 3) Grassy Knoll cross Elm street hit throat, hole in the windshield 4) Cowboys behind fence missed 5) Head shot from Grassy Knoll.
Cowboys is called 3rd shot because 2 of these 5 shots were simultaneoslly. No shot from behind hit JFK.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic We are posting for a couple of days and you still did not address " One Rifle or Two" believe me you have a problem. STOP FUCKING DODGING !!!
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic You're using informations that are too cliche from Nov.22 , 1963 & WC. you sound not ripe yet.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic The cowboys missed the 3th shot, right before the head shot,the cowboys proves that Dealy Plaza had at least 3 sniper nests.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic Stop with the Reflection of Sunlight in the Background, You hate to admitted it was the reflexion of
their hats, you know that. You talked too much, don't pay attention to the videos you watch. You create things out your mind, I am showing real black and white facts. I know that for you to accept the cowboys is like ask you to change your gender, you would be in a twilight zone.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic You committed a huge GAFFE saying Oswald was the lone shooter and part of the conspiracy
only if the conspiracy was created by you. The conspirators would never leave a looser at window shooting 3 bullets and the crowd looking at. Wake Up, Wise Up !!!
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic You talk like never exits witness like: Lee Bowers, Ed Hoffman, Acquilla Clemmons, the Cuban
Antonio Viciana you live in a world of your own actually you live like Osama Bin Laden in a cave.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic I provided you one single evidence the COWBOYS.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic Go to video : Bill O'Reilly reports on CIA connection to JFK assassination. There you will find out who was David Phillips, do not call me stupid and no more Bull Shit, OK !!! be a man and not a MAD MAN.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic I am not stupid Dodgy, I will explain the reason LHO was framed all the way. First off LHO was himself a CIA agent in a lower level position like a part time job and David Phillips told him what to do before and after the shooting stay in the TSBD then go to Texas Theater, Oswald follows the instructions, he knew about the plot but never could image he was going to be framed (PATSY). No more stupid and no more curtain rods before looking "One Rifle or Two" Am I wrong ? Answer !!!
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic whatever moron I have tried to explain things to you in a very basic manner which you are still incapabl of understanding, now fuck off and go play medal of honor.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic Stupidity of monumental proportions is thinking a below average marxman is capable of making an above average shot. But hey, you rea right ,stupidity on a monumental scale would be you for sure.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic ..You are making comment's calling people stupid so since you know so much please explain.
blackfeatherarchery 9 months ago
@uranorexic at the proper distance and or time. So again, its not that hard to understand that it is highly unlikely that Oswald was able to make that shot. Now for someone who is experienced and has killed before, it would be a very easy shot.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic at the proper distance and or time. So again, its not that hard to understand that it is highly unlikely that Oswald was able to make that shot. But hey, you read some books on shooting so you know.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic because shooting a moving target under pressure is lightyears different from shooting at a stationary piece of paper under no pressure. Example soldier accuracy in War is actually very poor, as is the accuracy of say an inexperienced Hunter. One of the most important aspects of making a good shot is gone, your breathing, it becomes iradic and short, their muscles are tense and they will inevitably jerk off target. They also will have ZERO Idea how far to actually lead a target.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
Mr. Dodgy you throw me a bunch of garbage that you take out of you fucking mind and never answer or explained anything, it is impossible to continue a coherent discussion. Bye !!! Mr. Dodgy Neighborhood !!! It is a beautiful day in the neighborhood, beautiful day in the neighborhood, would you be my, could you be my, my neighbor .......
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic Mr. Dodgy what about " One Rifle or Two" you got yourself the right name Mr. Dodgy Neighborhood.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic Good Morning Mr. Dodgy. Any alibi for LHO would not work because he was set will rifle bought by mail, he was buying Coke at lunch room on 2nd floor. He could be at your grandfather's home at the time of shooting, it does not matter PATSY is PATSY huge propaganda machine & WC adjusting everything. Back to my 4 videos Mr. Dodgy (Low IQ) not even observe a video you are good at, you said Nix film 300% was sun light, It was their cowboys hat reflection from the rifle flash BEAST !
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic Any moron can easily repeat what they were told, which you are doing perfectly, not many again can think for themselves and think beyond, which you are incapable of. now, back to your mastery of balllistics, are you able to tell me the dope required to lead and hit a moving target at just under 100 yards or not? You talk like an expert with nothing of substance to say.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@SlayerofFiction CIA thought in every detail, find a patsy and others details specially to have several snipers in different locations Oswald could not be there in the window shooting 3 bullets(actually was 4 maybe 5 - 2 simultaneouly) and call the attention of the crowd below, so from every sniper nest ONE SINGLE BULLET. Mr. Dodgy did not even mention the 4 videos that one of sniper nest were found by myself. "Cowboy's Sniper Nest." Breaking News !!! Mr.Dodgy hates new evidence."
Verdelufe 9 months ago
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@uranorexic I simply do not care what most people say. Most people will never question anything on any level, apparently you are one of t hem, with a little bit of thought it is clear that not everything from that day add up, thus why there is a conspiracy, but you have the right to be a complete and total idiot and believe everything you are told and to never ask the obvious questions. that is your right, but do not belittle those who seek the truth.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic so again, you are still unable to answer the basic ballistc questions I put forth, yet you claim to be able to make an advanced shot.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic lol really waht is your similar target, a non moving 12 inch standard site in target at the range? STFU you goddamn idiot.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic ..Explain since you know everything.
blackfeatherarchery 9 months ago
@uranorexic Mr. Dodgy with all due respect I did not want to say that but I can't help "YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT"
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@Verdelufe And he is the village idiot to boot. I cant believe I have been dragged into responding to this moron for so many posts.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@SlayerofFiction Me either, I don't know how I could respond to Mr. Dodgy that long, when he posts it is a total tornado, you don't know if he is trying to confused you to forget about your question or he is a clown or both.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic And based upon video analysis we know that the head shot did not come from behind and above. Now I actually know one of the shooters who participated in said test, however considering his vast qualifications shooting a moving rabbit sized object at under 100 yrds would be like you shooting at point blank. Now again, are you able to answer my questions or not? I guess not, thus your intent on redirection and constant insults.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic So I am able to base my analysis based upon three decades of experience in the field. I stated why your average moron such as yourself would not be very unlikely to make the shot even once. Now you however base your analysis apparently upon nothing. We know kennedy was shot, Check, we know there were bullet fragments, two big fucking surprises, the queastion again is whether or not oswald could and did make the shots, based upon his history, that is highly unlikely.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic lol ok well there is no talking to irrational people, feel free to go collect your internet argument trophy.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic So you are unable to do the basic math and unable to actually back your own argument. No surprise at all. Now go run along and play some Medal of Honor and keep pretending.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
And the bullet has nothing to do with Oswalds ability to make the shot, which I have staetd over and over again. Your argument hinges around whether or not Kennedy was actually shot, at no place did I say he was not, seriously, are you that fucking stooopid? Or is it simply because you cannot back up your own argument on any level?
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic So can you answer me or not? I will help you partially you will need to know the muzzle velocity, based on what conditions of said day?, you will also need to know the ballistic coefecient the angle of target (which you mentioned earlier) and the speed of object traveling. Now show me the math based on a 100 yard zero what his scope would be adjusted at also based upon that scopes minute of angle adjustments.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic But you can tell me the two types and the math required in order for him to hold his rectile dead on Kennedy in order for his bullet to impact. Start now and show your work.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic Lemme help ya what is involved in 1000 yard shooting, I adjust my dope or scope settings for Wind, altitude, humidity, rotation of the earth and spin drift (the amount a bullets rotation will carry it off target only compensated for at extreme long ranges). There R two ways to make this shot, oswald as someone with only basic firearms experience would not know how to do eather of them.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic You saying that I believe anything anybody says and never bother to verify it. I did the 4 videos by my own and everybody denied what I found before I released them, did you have a chance to look at them and deny too, but explaining what is wrong with the videos on the details.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic The lady who worked as telephone operator confirmed she received a call from LBJ and that I believe you can see at The men who killed Kennedy.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
Crenshaw sold books after 30 years there was a code of ethics not to make money out of what they saw. What want Vincent Bugliosi & Posner who belong to your team are doing, selling books of lies. Crenshaw had to tell what happened at Parkland before he dies he was savings lives before, do you see anywrong for us to find out the truth.
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@uranorexic Nothing in this video suggested that anyone equaled his shooting. wishful thinking on your part.
SlayerofFiction 9 months ago
@uranorexic After you debunk my 4 videos take a look at Dr. Charles Crenshaw at " Evidence of Revision : JFK Assassination Rarities" between 36:00 to 46:00 min. I will not mind if you denied my 4 videos but If you denied what the Doctor said I think you became "JFK NUT" who does not listen to anybody too much flaps and skulls you think you are "THE KING OF TRUTH"
Verdelufe