They killed her, their body language points to them lying. hands clasped in front of them, tightening of the lips when they lie, and sticking out their tongue. Frozen body language.... and when asked about the lie detector see how long it took them to say that they would agree to it - they are scared to be caught out. They have only got away with this because of the cross contamination of the evidence
its so fucking ridicolous how dumb people are!!! Just because there is some DNA...that DNA is a partial and to old and degraded. It will never match. Also, i believe that this DNA could be from the Investigators, officers on the Scene.
And even if there was some intruder, what i dont believe...you obv. cant clear the ramseys either. Doesnt mean they have nothing to do with it.
You guys here on youtube, are wrong on every subject on this issue.
John, Patsy & Casey Anthony making money off their dead children & not caring at all. If I lost my child, I don't even think I could be in an interview. Patsy is smiling as she's telling the story.
There was apparently a ransom note left, but why on earth would the "killer" leave a ransom note and then kill the girl in her own home??? That to me doesn't make any sense? It's so sad that after all this time the police still have not convicted anyone.
@thelaurels13 Yeah or kill, or accidentially kill, and then leave a note. It took time to write. Not flee right away, but then like you said, why write it ahead of time either.
yeah that completely defeats the purpose of holding someone for ransom, killing them? not only that but if an intruder did break in to murder her then no ransom note would be left... i dont understand why would there be a ransom note if if were dead beside it? there cant be an intruder cause there is no motive. people who want a ransom do not kill the captive instantly, without even kidnapping them, and leave a ransom note. killers dont do that they either go to kill or hold for ransom.
DNA has cleared these people. They are most likely innocent and clearly the police were totally inept! Let's not forget that John lost a daughter 2 years earlier in a car accident. To think that he was complicit in another child's death is fairly ludicrous. I say most likely because none of us know for sure.
like, the chances that the dad gets a christmas bonus, and then a shortwhile later the girl is killed by accident is also very low its more likely someone knew about the bonus and wanted it also its pretty clear that if the family didnt do it, whoever did it was very careful and organized and were trying to frame the family themselves so makiung a stupid note makes sense too
These are two sick people. They killed there daughter or intentionally let it happen. Anyone who believes they are innocent must be totally gullible and short on brain cells. This angers me.
Why act so odd about taking a lie detector test if you are 100% innocent? This is for both parents; although the Mother is no longer, here. This story has a lot of loop holes and the police and investigators did not do their job!
@lindalovesmusic1 lie detectors are not reliable They can indicate deception based on physiological reactions to the questions posed, but even an indication of deception or lack of deception can be skewed by an individual's physiology or the bias of the examiner. Some people are inherently nervous, and others are unshakable. Some people can control their physical reactions.
It doesn't matter who killed her. What matters is that a child was killed. That some Godless person in the world was capable of doing such a horrible thing. This was just all wrong and who ever did this knows that.
John says he found her later that morning even though it was that afternoon, these people are useless and talking to the police would have them going round in circles. Bottom line the ramseys have something to hide.
Them mother fuckers killed that damn girl, wht they couldnt do it? cause there white, rich, selfish fuckers all white mother fuckers kill there kids want find a black mofo doing that shit, give me a gun i'll shoot there sorry asses..........GUILTY
Research "JonBenet Ramsey Mind Control." It is real, folks. I can't even believe it is real because it just seems SO out there but it is. In your research, please google Brice Taylor. It is beyond horrific, beyond evil.
How could he note remember how he got the note??? Also, right before that he says "we" {checked on Burke} ..... theres so many THINGS THAT DO NOT MAKE SENSE. I COULD FUCK*N PROSECUTE THEM>>>>>> GUILTY
This case was covered up. The evidence points to the family. I think the police know who did it but these people are too powerful. It really makes me sad. May you RIP Jonbenet <3
These are complete lies! The ransom note was bogus; three pages long with a practice sheet on Patsy's own notepad! Who could relax and write this inside the house EXCEPT if it's an inside job. Let's face the facts here. Patsy wrote the ransom note. Not only does the writing match up but the "hench" & what's said after and before that word exactly like on her Xmas note + plus the long space between many words adds up from samples, etc. And look at them; lying through their teeth.
Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note; she is lying here. I am pretty sure the husband doesn't have clean hands, didn't kill Jon Benet but possibly Patsy walked into something inappropriate that John was doing to Jon Benet. It's hard to imagine he would with Patsy still up but he looks like he is also disingenuious. I'd like to think she staged the whole thing herself and not him too but he doesn't look comfortable either, he is nervous, and Patsy seems angry at John in the ransom note.
You've been through this... "a hundred times" and you don't remember??? See, its statements and reactions like this that plants so much doubt in everyone's minds. All those typical human nature reactions don't jell. And if they don't jell you don't have Jello :) They know more, it's glaring. Especially John.
Listen to "Arizona Wilder" video on YouTube (blue background). She speaks of "the last bulb on the tree" (a satanic ritual done to children by secret society pedophiles ONLY on December 25th -same date as Jon Benet's death). And she points out THIS is how Jon died.
i dont give a damn what none of yall say that was fuckin sick for some one to kill a six year old child i mean really what fuckin sicotic sonofabitch dose that shit i do not know but i would be hunting em down and killing there ass
and don't tell me how you'd react because if you think that you have any idea of how you would react without actually have being in this situation you illustrate how much of an ignorant asshole you are. its closed minded people like you that caused this investigation to be as much of a failure as it has. people like you are the reason this case hasn't been solved.
those poor people. that poor woman went to her grave without knowing who killed her little girl. can you imagine what these people have been through? all of those pointing their fingers at the Ramseys should be ashamed of themselves. Even the Boulder PD who would be the LAST people to do this have cleared them. ignorance and self righteousness is the only reason you people keep pointing your finger. have some fucking empathy, put yourself in their shoes, how would you react?
@cupcake4206969 good lord you really are a patsy supporter arent you... a gay patsy ramsey supporter! what a combination. But to put it 'straight' (pardon the pun) Patsy's just your old fag hag who employed you to to keep the negative comments at bay
what happend that night?? december 20..... 26th erm wouldnt u remeber that date like forever or was it the 25th when they killd her them two are bare faced liars period!!
this has cover up written all over it.. i dont care what DNA evidence says i think these 2 either killed her or let it happen there was also evidence that pointed to patsy as the killer its shocking how they got away with it and i guess we'll never know unless burke or john tells us and that ransom note is absolute crap RIP jonbenet
The only thing that I always thought was weird with Patsy, is that fact that whenever there's a picture of Patsy holding a picture of jonBenet, it's always only a picture of JonBenet in heavy make-up and such; She never seemed to want to talk about JonBenet being a normal six-year-old little girl.
JOHN however, did go on Oprah and talked about how JonBenet was a normal, everyday little girl. And he has a preschool picture of JonBenet in his wallet.
@cupcake4206969 Nah I havent been through anything traumatic but it funny that you have and it explains why you are the way you are. Did daddy poke you up the pooper when you were 15 and you secretly liked it? or did mommy walk in on the two of you? and now the post traumatic stress has kicked in because you realized how fucked up you really are and its caused you to seek solace in the Patsy case
Excuse me? You don't remember your actions when you found a note saying your daughter's been kidnapped? Gee, it was only your brutally murdered daughter! Why would anyone think you would remember? Let me tell you something Ramseys! You remember every detail of when your children get hurt and certainly would recall VERY CLEARLY if your child was kidnapped!
The killed their child. I am reading the book. "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town". It gives so much information on this case. I believe that they murdered their child.
@Shutterbug1000 For every book that proposes why The Ramsey's killed JonBenet there are others that articulate their innocence. The fact of the matter is that clearly the evidence supporting the theory that they killed their daughter does not exist. Even the DNA contradicts supports the "Intruder Theory". Det. Lou Smit, brought in the the District Atty. after it was clear Boulder Detectives could not handle the case declared the Boulder Police Dept. ignored the evidence pointing to an intruder.
I definitely believe the parents had involvement. Take the ransom note for instance. It was written on a pad of paper which was from the Ramsey house. Pages 17-25 were missing, and from the indentation from the pen, investigators were able to tell that the ransom letter had been restarted a number of times. I believe it was because Patsy wrote the letter after she accidentally killed JonBenet in the middle of a rage after finding out that JonBenet wet her bed.
If she was taken for ransom, why the hell would the kidnappers write the ransom letter right then and there at their, and also kill JonBenet before John Ramsey even had a chance to get the kidnappers the ransom money. An autopsy shows that she was dead even before the police were called....
@MegaMarkieMark they were cleared and common sense it was most likely placed there so it can be seen dumbass and they didnt show any emotion most likely because they grevied for so long at tht point and ppl always critizie w.e they did wether they show emotion or not.
If this video was from 2000 anybody who understands the humanbody would see they have AGED from stress and a normal human does not age that much in four years.
@rosevillmb There is evidence, as a father if i knew my child was killed i could not go onto larry king and spit lies out while smiling thats enough proof
@rosevillmb i think there GUILTY there is also not one shred of solid evidence that an intruder forced entry into the home and no tracks were in the apparent 2" snowfall around the house i think they did it by accident because why would they want to purposly murder there daughter
and why are you crying? In all due respect, poor Jonbenet has been gone over a decade ago. Patsy has been gone three years. It might be a good idea to let go and move on, unless you are personally connected to the family somehow then Im sorry and I wish you all the best.
it can be a very different story. Ofcourse they are not admiting guilt, that could equal the death penalty if found guilty. Although Patsy has already passed on. But what Im saying is, unless you know 100% I wouldnt be putting my finger in the fire for either of these two. I dont want to say for sure they are guilty but like I said in my original post and like many others have said based on both of these two peoples body language, something is suspicious, even the experts have said this.
I agree, lets not be enemies:) As for the Ramseys, do you know these people personally? Were you there? Do you know for certain 100% without a shadow of a doubt they are innocent? I would prefer to believe they are innocent too but I guess its something we will never know. Yes it seems like there was no motive, they had money, a great life, what reason would they have? But in life things are not always as they seem, some people can appear normal on the surface but once you scratch the surface..
Here is the main fact that the Ramsey's didn't kill their daughter. Their was no motive. What would the Ramsey's get from killing their daughter? Nothing. As you can see, the Ramsey's killing their daughter myth is not true.
Body language says somethings certainly up with these two. Even if you disregard their guarded body signals, they still contradicted themselves numerous times in this interview. If your going to lie, lie properly.
Look, I'm sorry for my language maybe I got very angry with you. We can either be enemies or act like people. BUT listen to me these people are INNOCENT. You can SEE IT and FEEL IT, THEIR PAIN AND SUFFERING. THESE PARENTS ARE VICTIMS OF BEING HATED BY THE PUBLIC AND FOR THEIR TRAGIC LOSS OF A SIX YEAR OLD GIRL. I'm crying right now.
Once again I am sorry for my tone with you. Its just that the Ramsey's are innocent and had never had a chance of peace in their life after their daughter's murder. Please read the other comments.
@Gordo80 yup use grammar instead of proving me wrong, you're still an idiot. especially if you think that no parent has ever killed their child because then your naive and ignorant.
@cheeesonator Your calling me an idiot? Your a retarded dip-shit that lacks the ability to read, understand and comprehend plain English. Go back to Year 1 and start all over again, after graduating in 12 years time, come back to youtube and read my post again. I'll copy and paste it just for you. Start with pgmgames comment, located 7 comments above this one and then read my response - "No parent has ever killed their child and if you believe that your out of your fucking mind!" Idiot!
@Gordo80 well i was calling you an idiot for what i thought you were saying (i see what u your saying now)but in the comment it really looks like your saying the opposite of what you mean
@cheeesonator I understand, it probably could be interpreted that way. I'm sorry for being a nasty asshole and calling you names. Sometimes I write a simple reply to something that starts out rather innocently and ends with a massive backlashing. I will try to be more respectful on here
you see I, unlike you, am not trying to prove a point or change anybody's mind or make friends, I (unlike you) have enough real life friends and I don't give a fuck about what you think. I've resigned myself to the fact that this world is full of morons and that it always will be.
Respond to this video... I'm just on here to laugh at you and to tell you what a fucking idiot you are. Whether I convince you of that fact or not is irrelevant to me and this has less to do with Jonbenet's innocent parents than it has to do with my disdain for your type of ignorance and quick clouded judgment
you're a moron. BUT I just came in your mouth so... it'll be another 20 minutes or so of ecstasy (on your part) before you'll be able to respond so I'll just sit back and enjoy the silence for now bitch :)
at the end john says there guard went down they were complacent.. but how, they were in a locked house on xmas night, how was their guard down? what else could they have done, they were sleeping. this doesnt sound right to me
i think that the parents did it. they dont remember crap about anything. u would remember all of it if that happend to u its something u would never forget
Really, we can go on and on and we are all entitled to our own opinions. They have reopened the case recently which is a step in the right direction and have cleared the Ramseys through Touch DNA and sent a letter to John Ramsey. More has to be done and at a quicker pace to solve this case, put egos aside get the job done, exhaust ALL leads thoroughly not partially and seek justice.
I am already aware of those things. I honestly don't think there exists a single matter regarding this case that you could present to me that I don't already know. IF the re-opening of this case does do any good (nothing has become of it so far,) then it's about damn time, is all I have to say.
"Call him Mr. Cautious. Boulder, Colo., District Attorney Stan Garnett isn't about to make the same mistakes as his two predecessors by opening or closing the umbrella of suspicion on any suspects in the unsolved murder of 6-year-old JonBenét Ramsey."
This is from an article from March 2009. Did you just stop listening to the news after you heard what you wanted to hear from Mary Lacy, the same woman who was POSITIVE that John Mark carr did it?
Palominto: Reread my comment - I am referring to the police (they) as botching the case, not JonBenet herself. And of course, we don't have all the answers but we still have the RIGHT to question matters beyond what the media/police feed us. The Ramseys also had two trips planned for their kids right after Christmas: Charlevoix and Disney as stated in their book - I ask myself, why would you kill the one you planned the trips for? Doesn't add up at all.
Ah. I suppose I did misunderstand your final sentence in the comment. My apologies for that, but from the way you typed it out, it appeared as if you were saying JonBenet botched her own case.. Anyway, of course we have the right to question. That's all ANYONE can do, since nothing about this case makes any sense. I am not a believer of the media or the (idiotic) Boulder police, nor am I set on the fact that her parents killed her. I honestly don't know what to think anymore.
Palominto: I question if there was really even a scream to begin with - tape was used in the crime, John Ramsey removed tape from his daughter's mouth. John Ramsey has since buried three young women in his immediate family !!and how does he still have the will to live? His faith keeps him going and he will be reunited with his loved ones one day. They need to find the perp(s) and give due justice to this family - they owe it to JonBenet for botching the case to begin with.
It is highly unlikely that someone would make up a story of hearing a child's heart-rending scream. Yes, there WAS duct tape used in the crime. But no one knows WHEN it was used. The killer may have used it after JonBenet's scream for all anyone knows. The order of the series of events which took place in that basement are unknown. And would you care to tell me how JONBENET botched this case?? The only people responsible for that are the police and John Ramsey, who found her body.
Another point: If the kidnapping was premeditated, why didn't the kidnapper(s) type it up on a computer days ahead or use words cut out of a magazine to allude detection through the handwriting? This is why I think it was all last minute and then the kidnapper thought better of it (kidnapping) and switched to murder instead. Also, were the Ramsey's robbed at all that night of some of their possessions? Can we rule out robbery as the motive or is it clearly a vendetta?
Again, I can't answer those questions. If the killer was an intruder, he obviously did not come equipped with writing supplies since the sharpie and paper belonged to Patsy Ramsey. In short, he used what he could find in the house. The easiest way to write a note? Paper and a pen. Not searching for a computer and typing the note up there. And no, there was absoloutely NO signs or indications of robbery being a motive. Noting was missing or even moved, aside from the tools used to kill JonBenet.
There are less things more exhausting than Christmas on top of eveyday life? Are you kidding me? I start shopping in late October? and I am still running around like crazy days before doing stuff for eveyone else! Christmas is a blur half the time between shopping, cooking, wrapping, decorating, phone calls, not to mention cleaing my whole house non-stop! When I go to visit I am out of breath grateful to sit down and rest and that someone else is cooking for me!
I was not saying that Christmas isn't exhausting. Of course it is, or can be. But you are referring to the entire holiday, from beginning to end. I'll agree it is probably the most tedious and time-consuming holiday preparation-wise. However, my point was that even if someone had just arrived home from a day of Christmas festivities and had fallen asleep, anyone would think that they SHOULD have been able to hear their daughter's blood-curdling scream several floors below.
cont'd. ransom note: use of "attache" don't people today say briefcase? Scrutiny, gentlemen, and hence - these words someone with a higher level of education/lifestyle chooses to use. The note was written on the 25th because of the word "tomorrow" referencing the 26th. The word "Victory": this guy(s) (S.B.T.C.?)wanted victory over Mr. Ramsey and no mention of JonBenet's name in the note itself. John Ramsey is not orig from the south either. The movie RANSOM was playing in Boulder at the time.
That can't be determined as a fact. IF this note was written on the 25th, the killer would have had hours (as we've all heard countless times) and was obviously in no hurry to get the hell out of the house. He took his time and carefully chose his words. If someone was intending to get away with a kidnapping, murder, etc, of course he wouldn't have written the note in his usual style. He would disguise his writing style as much as he possibly could. And he had the time to do so.
con'td. As for the scream in the basement? The family had spent a busy day non-stop with festivities and hanging out with friends which is EXHAUSTING! John and Patsy were running around doing last minute preparations - are you going to drop like a rock into bed that night? - hec yes!!! and they had to rise at 5:30am the next morning. That's why I asked you if you were a parent and do you understand fighting exhaustion when you have millions of things to do before you can even think of sleep?
Exhaustion was not the reason that the Ramseys (apparently) did not hear their daughter's scream. First of all, there are much more exhausting things than a Christmas party, but that is beside the point. One of the Ramsey's neighbours, who lived less than 100 feet away, heard the harrowing scream of a child that (according to her statements) "pierced the stillness of the night" at approximately 2:00 A.M. (I'll continue this in a second comment)
"It was the most horrible scream I have ever heard in my entire life. It sent shivers down my spine. I could tell the sound was coming from the Ramsey house and I knew it had to be their little girl, JonBenét." One cannot possibly read that statement and believe that the Ramseys, exhausted or not, couldn't have heard that scream for themselves. Regardless of the tests performed, which suggested that the scream escaped the house through a basement pipe, but would not have been heard upstairs.
Palominto: Why didn't the neighbour send her husband over or call to make sure everything was OK? if she even thought it was JonBenet she should have taken the time to call the cops or knock on their door to rule out something bad? Why was the neighbour's window ajar in the middle of winter? just weird. Wouldn't her bedroom get cold over the course of the night? I keep a fan near my bed if I feel hot - not open my window in the winter, my husband would protest about the heat loss.
I can't give you those answers, or speak for the neighbour herself. I am only going off what I've heard and read. It was a quiet, peaceful city with very little crime history. Like anyone, she would not have assumed a murder was occurring less than 100 feet from her home. She WAS concerned, however, and remained awake for 10 minutes thinking the child may have been injured. But after hearing nothing else, went back to sleep. And as for her window being open, for all anyone knows, it was closed.
Cont'd.. possbility that an intruder could have done it, but I also know there's a possibly that at least one of the parents were involved. I mean, have you read the ransom note? Things said in it don't make any sense. So many things about this case don't make sense or add up.
cont'd. and for the sake of arguments, the American public was just coming off the OJ case of 1994: he was rich, goodlooking, polished like the Ramseys, diff is OJ clearly was guilty. Calm down and use your judgment, separate the facts from fiction and you'll see the miscarriage of justice. Look up David Milgaard (a movie was made about his case) and Guy Paul Morin on the internet - both innocent men and both sent to prison, then set free years later.
I do know all of the facts in this case. I've done some extensive reading and research about this case. And I don't mean by reading tabloids either. I didn't rush to judgement by assuming it was the parents. There's a lot of cirumstantial evidence against Patsy. I know about the unknown male DNA that was found on both JonBenet's underwear and long johns. I know about the shoeprint found next to her body, the public hair found on the public, I know all the facts here. I know there is the....
You and I are on two separate pages here: the guy (and the police have his DNA on file) who did this was not mentally stable and had warped perception obviously, he was delusional to think he could do this in the first place!Writing a ransom note was risky to leave behind because it was done in handwriting and this is identifiable. OJ had a history of violence which was recorded and documented and Nicole's family were aware of the abuse. The Ramsey's have no motive or history of abuse.
She is such a fucking liar. I don't care if she is dead or not. I HIGHLY doubt that she woke up and got dressed "hurriedly" that morning. She was wearing the SAME clothes from the night before and STILL in full makeup. Yeah, I'm so sure she even went to bed that night. I don't buy ANY of her bullshit. BOTH of them lie through their teeth and they both know it! Their little book was nothing more than to cash in on JonBenet's death.
Immortal: Have you read their book? Are you a parent? Do you know about DNA? If the killer was in the house for hours, he would have had access to ALL of their belongings. Why would he bring along his own paper/pen? This looks like a botched kidnapping to me that was abandoned last minute. I myself being a busy Mom, have had to dash out the door last minute just after thowing my clothes on from the night before - it's not unheard of!
It looks like a botched kidnapping? What kidnapper writes a 2 1/2 page ransom note? What kidnapper feels that comfortable inside someone else's home without the fear of getting caught (after they returned home)? If a neighbor really did hear a scream from a little girl coming from the Ramsey house, why didn't the parents themselves hear it?
That neighbor later said that she was unsure if she heard a scream or not. Also, a sound test was done on the Ramsye home and it was proven that even if Jonbenet did scream, no one would have heard it.
Don't get me wrong: I think the parents are completely innocent, but she leaves out too much detail!, people need to hear more to get a clearer picture, they seem run down and exasperated even nervous sometimes, but can you really blame them.
You must be joking. You seriously CANNOT believe the parents are "completely innocent." Do you realize the notepad used to write the ransom note belonged to Patsy? The Sharpie marked used to write it belonged to Patsy. The broken paintbrush used to make the garrote belonged to Patsy. You're going to sit there and tell me she wasn't involved one way or another? PLEASE!
3:57 : Patsy Ramsey remembers that she wakes up, and then *hurriedly* gets dressed and goes downstairs.
4:58 : Patsy Ramsey does NOT remember what happened after she found the note. See also 5:15--John Ramsey gets slightly agitated, saying "we don't remember".
ALSO, 6:42 : Larry asks when they saw JonBenet after the none. John's response, "You mean, when did they find her".
not bein racest or anithin but u cant trust them white people they do anything to save money,their guilty as hell!look at how their acting its their fine she dead! fucken killers!
@laronzbby i wouldnt say you cant trust white people but there is something dodgy about most wealthy successful people who are highly regarded by their communities. Most tend to turn out as creeps in the end.
Patsy said: I got dressed hurriedly and went downstairs (how far down in the house did she go to do this packing? wouldn't she have passed the note on the stairs?) to pack a few things for the trip? What "things" was she talking about: clothes, snacks from the kitchen, linens? And did she keep their luggage in their rooms or have to haul them out of the basement? Did she do any prepacking at all to save time? Very odd.
Extremely odd! What I'm wondering about, also, is why she says she woke up (around 5:30 AM) and *hurriedly* got dressed and gone downstairs. Hurriedly gotten dressed in the same clothes she wore the night before--we are expected to believe.
Patsy Ramset comes home Christmas night wearing a red sweater and black pants.This is all documented. At 6am next morning police arrive to Patsy in THE SAME clothes,and in full make up.
We are expected to believe that a wealthy woman who had always dressed so well got up and put on the same clothes....AND full make up after she "found a ransom note.
The reason Patsy had the same clothes and full make up was that she had not been to sleep that night as she claimed.
I cant belive how they are acting if my dad found me dead he would not be able to talk about it they know more than we know and when the mom died she took they story with her!!!
Is there any way you can put up the show with former Detective Steve Thomas and the Ramseys'? Also, I would like to say, this case was strange as hell; making the Ramseys' suspicious but you have to admit, the cops messed up, too! So who is to say they are guilty?
i was watching haunting evidence this show where these sychics(dont know how to spell it) find new evidence for unsolved cases and they were investigating Jonbenet and they said it was a security guard(had stungun) that worked with the dad and new he had 118,000 bonus, he also went to her pageants a lot and spyed, video taped her, and even said he was her dad at one of her pageants. The intruder also was broke into the basement window before they got home and familiarize himself with it.
Of the over 500 handwriting samples the FBI collected from individuals, Patsy Ramsey was the ONLY ONE who could not be eliminated as the ransom note writer. The Ramseys waited 5 months before they finally agreed to talk to police about their daughters death. There was NO evidence of an intrduer. None. Zero. Nada. And bedwetting at 6 years old is a sign of sexual abuse. The Ramseys are guilty as hell.
WHAT DO THEY MEAN THEY DONT REMEMEBER? hes like oh it was 3 years ago. its not like he was asking what he had for breakfast 3 years ago, youd think that remember something as big as this! and is it mean or does the story change a little a lot??
The Ramseys have been very consistent on every fact that they can recall. On everything they can remember, they've kept with the same stories. As for this specific remark of them not being able to remember exactly what they did upon finding JonBenét gone, it seems absolutely reasonable to me. Imagine your panic upon finding out your six-year-old daughter is gone, for how long you have no idea. Your mind goes a million different places. From there, everything is a blur.
"It was three years ago, we don't remember." I can't accept that. We lost a family member in tragic circumstances 13 years go and we can all remember every detail -- that's our curse. Memories still keep us up at night from time to time. You never forget.
It took me 8 years to get over my brother's death from cancer....these people are being interviewed here 4 years after the brutal killing of their young daughter and they don't seem distraught at all. Wierd.
It always baffled me that paedophiles would be interested in kids that looked like adults. When adults are not what they are looking for. Surely it's a contradiction. However,not being a paedophile myself,I can't understand the whole thing.
Not being a paedophile myself,I can't understand the whole thing.
Kids beauty pagents are certainly freaky. However,I'm less concerned about the fact that they could be soft core paedophile porn,(I mean,let's face it,pagents or not,there will always be paedophiles), rather than the fact that if a child grows up always trying to please people in every way then she will surely turn out to be a very messed up individual.
The parents try to justify the pageants by saying that the kids enjoy them yet I honestly can't believe that these children would have the capacity to actually choose to do this voluntarily at their age without their stage-mothers pushing them so fiercely.
Wrong. Very, very wrong.
Children should be seen as asexual. They shouldn't be plastered in make-up or wearing short skirts and tiny tops. When the parents of these kids tart them up to look like adults, it's every paedophile's dream
These poor people have suffered so much. May Jonbenet and Patsy rest in peace. Hopefully justice on earth will be served one day.
pacontelmo 1 month ago
If you're innocent you would gladly take a lie detector test! Especially, if you are under suspicion of murdereing your child!
TheNova1960 2 months ago
They killed her, their body language points to them lying. hands clasped in front of them, tightening of the lips when they lie, and sticking out their tongue. Frozen body language.... and when asked about the lie detector see how long it took them to say that they would agree to it - they are scared to be caught out. They have only got away with this because of the cross contamination of the evidence
nataliesuki 2 months ago
its strange how unemotionless the mom is. no tears. and the dad hardly looks like a broken man.
girlygirlyblonde 2 months ago
but go along with your DNA evidence, like the italian mob, as they lynched Amanda Knox, because of it..
and btw..i dont know but eveytime in this family murder cases...arrives years later some mysterious DNA evidence to support their innocents.....
like in the "Routier" or "Mcdonald" case.
im sure, they would be cleard too now, if they wouldnt be sitting in jail at the moment.
so, whats my issue here? my issue is, that everyone who says that the dna proved that they are not guilty, is a moron.
trustice1 2 months ago
its so fucking ridicolous how dumb people are!!! Just because there is some DNA...that DNA is a partial and to old and degraded. It will never match. Also, i believe that this DNA could be from the Investigators, officers on the Scene.
And even if there was some intruder, what i dont believe...you obv. cant clear the ramseys either. Doesnt mean they have nothing to do with it.
You guys here on youtube, are wrong on every subject on this issue.
@69ingunicorns
wtf, does that mean?
trustice1 2 months ago
John, Patsy & Casey Anthony making money off their dead children & not caring at all. If I lost my child, I don't even think I could be in an interview. Patsy is smiling as she's telling the story.
gracelannd 5 months ago 2
i think larry thought they were guilty too. he kept grilling them about the day before jonbenet was discovered.
SugarKatie 6 months ago
There was apparently a ransom note left, but why on earth would the "killer" leave a ransom note and then kill the girl in her own home??? That to me doesn't make any sense? It's so sad that after all this time the police still have not convicted anyone.
thelaurels13 6 months ago
@thelaurels13 Yeah or kill, or accidentially kill, and then leave a note. It took time to write. Not flee right away, but then like you said, why write it ahead of time either.
RandiSierra 5 months ago
yeah that completely defeats the purpose of holding someone for ransom, killing them? not only that but if an intruder did break in to murder her then no ransom note would be left... i dont understand why would there be a ransom note if if were dead beside it? there cant be an intruder cause there is no motive. people who want a ransom do not kill the captive instantly, without even kidnapping them, and leave a ransom note. killers dont do that they either go to kill or hold for ransom.
koolgirl9988 1 month ago
kill your kid, right a book... bithces love books
stottspage 6 months ago
Touch dna proved they didn't do it.
People just have it in their minds that they did it.
That would mean that they were wrong...
and they can't admit that they were wrong.
If the facts don't fit their theory...change the facts.
People are stupid.
frickadele 6 months ago
@frickadele I completely agree.
DNA is like fingers if they don't match they didn't do it.
AlexzJohnsonforever1 4 months ago
murder murder!!! one of us one of us gooblegobble gooblegobble one of us one of us
SalvyxD 7 months ago
DNA has cleared these people. They are most likely innocent and clearly the police were totally inept! Let's not forget that John lost a daughter 2 years earlier in a car accident. To think that he was complicit in another child's death is fairly ludicrous. I say most likely because none of us know for sure.
peteyguitarguy 7 months ago 2
like, the chances that the dad gets a christmas bonus, and then a shortwhile later the girl is killed by accident is also very low its more likely someone knew about the bonus and wanted it also its pretty clear that if the family didnt do it, whoever did it was very careful and organized and were trying to frame the family themselves so makiung a stupid note makes sense too
K3Jxo 8 months ago
@SunshineMayhem no sunshine.. read my comment again.. or better still first read the comment above my comment and then read my reply
Gordo80 8 months ago
These are two sick people. They killed there daughter or intentionally let it happen. Anyone who believes they are innocent must be totally gullible and short on brain cells. This angers me.
TheCdog24 9 months ago
@TheCdog24 they didn't do it
b55101 8 months ago
this man is the biggest liar I have ever seen! How do you NOT remember? You DON'T want to remember!! But in the end, You will remember! Just ask God!
lindalovesmusic1 9 months ago
Why act so odd about taking a lie detector test if you are 100% innocent? This is for both parents; although the Mother is no longer, here. This story has a lot of loop holes and the police and investigators did not do their job!
lindalovesmusic1 9 months ago
@lindalovesmusic1 lie detectors are not reliable They can indicate deception based on physiological reactions to the questions posed, but even an indication of deception or lack of deception can be skewed by an individual's physiology or the bias of the examiner. Some people are inherently nervous, and others are unshakable. Some people can control their physical reactions.
Texan2525 7 months ago
I dont remember? Fuck off.
metyzermanfan19 10 months ago
It doesn't matter who killed her. What matters is that a child was killed. That some Godless person in the world was capable of doing such a horrible thing. This was just all wrong and who ever did this knows that.
KatieM101388 10 months ago
John says he found her later that morning even though it was that afternoon, these people are useless and talking to the police would have them going round in circles. Bottom line the ramseys have something to hide.
667neighborofdabeast 11 months ago
man these 2 are really dodgy.
nyran125 11 months ago
"we do not know if she was cold" well she was under blanket in the basement.....
girlytubegirl 11 months ago
it's sad that the most liked comment on this video has the words, "I don't care what DNA evidence says."
Camus286 11 months ago
I can't stand to look at these murdering freaks
fabiantr100 1 year ago
hese are my theories
1. Patsy (Mother) killed her out of jealousy of her beauty - this does happen
2. Patsy (Mother) killed her out of anger probably by accident
3. Both her parents killed her accidentally or because of rituals
4. She told her mom her dad molested her then in ager her dad beat her and killed her
5. Her brother killed her by accident then parents covered it up
6. She got injured her self. Parents scared police would think its her killed her and covered it up.
7. Parents did it
MrPresidentVirg 1 year ago
Them mother fuckers killed that damn girl, wht they couldnt do it? cause there white, rich, selfish fuckers all white mother fuckers kill there kids want find a black mofo doing that shit, give me a gun i'll shoot there sorry asses..........GUILTY
KELLYSWAGGER 1 year ago
Research "JonBenet Ramsey Mind Control." It is real, folks. I can't even believe it is real because it just seems SO out there but it is. In your research, please google Brice Taylor. It is beyond horrific, beyond evil.
aliciaanne 1 year ago
COVERUP. THEY DID IT. WHY DONT YOU TAKE A F B I POLYGRAPH.
leedumett444 1 year ago 2
its strange that theyre so self absorbed that they put themselves on the cover and not their daughter
MeesterCrumpet 1 year ago
id rather jonbenet be on the cover of their book
Number1Gosselinfan28 1 year ago
How could he note remember how he got the note??? Also, right before that he says "we" {checked on Burke} ..... theres so many THINGS THAT DO NOT MAKE SENSE. I COULD FUCK*N PROSECUTE THEM>>>>>> GUILTY
laurachis 1 year ago
This case was covered up. The evidence points to the family. I think the police know who did it but these people are too powerful. It really makes me sad. May you RIP Jonbenet <3
laurachis 1 year ago
The most traumatizing morning of their lives, and they don't remember it. Ha.
heartpumpsair 1 year ago
These are complete lies! The ransom note was bogus; three pages long with a practice sheet on Patsy's own notepad! Who could relax and write this inside the house EXCEPT if it's an inside job. Let's face the facts here. Patsy wrote the ransom note. Not only does the writing match up but the "hench" & what's said after and before that word exactly like on her Xmas note + plus the long space between many words adds up from samples, etc. And look at them; lying through their teeth.
LitZena 1 year ago
Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note; she is lying here. I am pretty sure the husband doesn't have clean hands, didn't kill Jon Benet but possibly Patsy walked into something inappropriate that John was doing to Jon Benet. It's hard to imagine he would with Patsy still up but he looks like he is also disingenuious. I'd like to think she staged the whole thing herself and not him too but he doesn't look comfortable either, he is nervous, and Patsy seems angry at John in the ransom note.
LitZena 1 year ago
You've been through this... "a hundred times" and you don't remember??? See, its statements and reactions like this that plants so much doubt in everyone's minds. All those typical human nature reactions don't jell. And if they don't jell you don't have Jello :) They know more, it's glaring. Especially John.
MrMontyBlack 1 year ago
Listen to "Arizona Wilder" video on YouTube (blue background). She speaks of "the last bulb on the tree" (a satanic ritual done to children by secret society pedophiles ONLY on December 25th -same date as Jon Benet's death). And she points out THIS is how Jon died.
MrMontyBlack 1 year ago
is it me or does john look like he's trying not to smile
chopstar420 1 year ago 2
@chopstar420 he definitely does
MeesterCrumpet 1 year ago
i dont give a damn what none of yall say that was fuckin sick for some one to kill a six year old child i mean really what fuckin sicotic sonofabitch dose that shit i do not know but i would be hunting em down and killing there ass
rayray2461 1 year ago
i dont give a shit what none of yall say that was fuckin sick for someone to kill a six year ole child
rayray2461 1 year ago
lol why does larry king suck so much balls at interviews
gibbsies 1 year ago
and don't tell me how you'd react because if you think that you have any idea of how you would react without actually have being in this situation you illustrate how much of an ignorant asshole you are. its closed minded people like you that caused this investigation to be as much of a failure as it has. people like you are the reason this case hasn't been solved.
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 PATSY'S GUILTY - END OF STORY HAHAHAHA!! the proof is in the body language!
Gordo80 1 year ago
those poor people. that poor woman went to her grave without knowing who killed her little girl. can you imagine what these people have been through? all of those pointing their fingers at the Ramseys should be ashamed of themselves. Even the Boulder PD who would be the LAST people to do this have cleared them. ignorance and self righteousness is the only reason you people keep pointing your finger. have some fucking empathy, put yourself in their shoes, how would you react?
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 good lord you really are a patsy supporter arent you... a gay patsy ramsey supporter! what a combination. But to put it 'straight' (pardon the pun) Patsy's just your old fag hag who employed you to to keep the negative comments at bay
Gordo80 1 year ago
what happend that night?? december 20..... 26th erm wouldnt u remeber that date like forever or was it the 25th when they killd her them two are bare faced liars period!!
babbysmurf86 1 year ago
this has cover up written all over it.. i dont care what DNA evidence says i think these 2 either killed her or let it happen there was also evidence that pointed to patsy as the killer its shocking how they got away with it and i guess we'll never know unless burke or john tells us and that ransom note is absolute crap RIP jonbenet
mattzifrom95 1 year ago 9
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they did it
leedumett444 1 year ago
The only thing that I always thought was weird with Patsy, is that fact that whenever there's a picture of Patsy holding a picture of jonBenet, it's always only a picture of JonBenet in heavy make-up and such; She never seemed to want to talk about JonBenet being a normal six-year-old little girl.
JOHN however, did go on Oprah and talked about how JonBenet was a normal, everyday little girl. And he has a preschool picture of JonBenet in his wallet.
Either way, they didn't kill jonBenet
ElenaTheMonster 1 year ago
Oh they're lying. They look nerveous
fran9511 1 year ago 2
you go on larry king live and discuss the murder of your 6 year old child and see how cool and calm you are. you're an idiot :(
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 Well I'm sorry for saying that but it's kind of suspicious that they don't remember what happened to their daughter.
fran9511 1 year ago
have you ever been through something so horribly traumatic? I have. and yes the details do seem to get lost in all the post traumatic stress.
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 Nah I havent been through anything traumatic but it funny that you have and it explains why you are the way you are. Did daddy poke you up the pooper when you were 15 and you secretly liked it? or did mommy walk in on the two of you? and now the post traumatic stress has kicked in because you realized how fucked up you really are and its caused you to seek solace in the Patsy case
Gordo80 1 year ago
i think they did it
mjlego77 1 year ago 2
"Larry we don't remember, it was 3 years ago..."
Excuse me? You don't remember your actions when you found a note saying your daughter's been kidnapped? Gee, it was only your brutally murdered daughter! Why would anyone think you would remember? Let me tell you something Ramseys! You remember every detail of when your children get hurt and certainly would recall VERY CLEARLY if your child was kidnapped!
sofiamarmeladova 1 year ago
The killed their child. I am reading the book. "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town". It gives so much information on this case. I believe that they murdered their child.
Shutterbug1000 1 year ago
@Shutterbug1000 For every book that proposes why The Ramsey's killed JonBenet there are others that articulate their innocence. The fact of the matter is that clearly the evidence supporting the theory that they killed their daughter does not exist. Even the DNA contradicts supports the "Intruder Theory". Det. Lou Smit, brought in the the District Atty. after it was clear Boulder Detectives could not handle the case declared the Boulder Police Dept. ignored the evidence pointing to an intruder.
mrr1980 1 year ago
I definitely believe the parents had involvement. Take the ransom note for instance. It was written on a pad of paper which was from the Ramsey house. Pages 17-25 were missing, and from the indentation from the pen, investigators were able to tell that the ransom letter had been restarted a number of times. I believe it was because Patsy wrote the letter after she accidentally killed JonBenet in the middle of a rage after finding out that JonBenet wet her bed.
Kbskopec 1 year ago
If she was taken for ransom, why the hell would the kidnappers write the ransom letter right then and there at their, and also kill JonBenet before John Ramsey even had a chance to get the kidnappers the ransom money. An autopsy shows that she was dead even before the police were called....
Kbskopec 1 year ago
theyre guilty
dawg55c 1 year ago
@MegaMarkieMark obviously you know fuck all about the case if you think they did it loser.
rambojuliuscaesar 1 year ago
@MegaMarkieMark they were cleared and common sense it was most likely placed there so it can be seen dumbass and they didnt show any emotion most likely because they grevied for so long at tht point and ppl always critizie w.e they did wether they show emotion or not.
xjonbenet96x 1 year ago
If this video was from 2000 anybody who understands the humanbody would see they have AGED from stress and a normal human does not age that much in four years.
christianconor 1 year ago
The parents didn't murder their daughter.
There is not one shred of solid evidence pointhing at the Ramseys.
Do you sit around and read the tabliods,and believe alle that gossip and lies?
rosevillmb 2 years ago
@rosevillmb There is evidence, as a father if i knew my child was killed i could not go onto larry king and spit lies out while smiling thats enough proof
adhdboy699 1 year ago
@rosevillmb i think there GUILTY there is also not one shred of solid evidence that an intruder forced entry into the home and no tracks were in the apparent 2" snowfall around the house i think they did it by accident because why would they want to purposly murder there daughter
mattzifrom95 1 year ago
and why are you crying? In all due respect, poor Jonbenet has been gone over a decade ago. Patsy has been gone three years. It might be a good idea to let go and move on, unless you are personally connected to the family somehow then Im sorry and I wish you all the best.
Gordo80 2 years ago
it can be a very different story. Ofcourse they are not admiting guilt, that could equal the death penalty if found guilty. Although Patsy has already passed on. But what Im saying is, unless you know 100% I wouldnt be putting my finger in the fire for either of these two. I dont want to say for sure they are guilty but like I said in my original post and like many others have said based on both of these two peoples body language, something is suspicious, even the experts have said this.
Gordo80 2 years ago
I agree, lets not be enemies:) As for the Ramseys, do you know these people personally? Were you there? Do you know for certain 100% without a shadow of a doubt they are innocent? I would prefer to believe they are innocent too but I guess its something we will never know. Yes it seems like there was no motive, they had money, a great life, what reason would they have? But in life things are not always as they seem, some people can appear normal on the surface but once you scratch the surface..
Gordo80 2 years ago
Here is the main fact that the Ramsey's didn't kill their daughter. Their was no motive. What would the Ramsey's get from killing their daughter? Nothing. As you can see, the Ramsey's killing their daughter myth is not true.
pjmgame 2 years ago
Body language says somethings certainly up with these two. Even if you disregard their guarded body signals, they still contradicted themselves numerous times in this interview. If your going to lie, lie properly.
Gordo80 2 years ago
What are you saying? If you think the parents killed their daughter then you are out of your fucking mind.
pjmgame 2 years ago
Oh right cause thats never happend before. No parent has ever killed their child and if you believe that your out of your fucking mind!
Gordo80 2 years ago 4
Look, I'm sorry for my language maybe I got very angry with you. We can either be enemies or act like people. BUT listen to me these people are INNOCENT. You can SEE IT and FEEL IT, THEIR PAIN AND SUFFERING. THESE PARENTS ARE VICTIMS OF BEING HATED BY THE PUBLIC AND FOR THEIR TRAGIC LOSS OF A SIX YEAR OLD GIRL. I'm crying right now.
pjmgame 2 years ago
Once again I am sorry for my tone with you. Its just that the Ramsey's are innocent and had never had a chance of peace in their life after their daughter's murder. Please read the other comments.
pjmgame 2 years ago
@Gordo80 actually it has, several of times. your an idiot.
cheeesonator 1 year ago
@cheeesonator says the 'cheeesonator'. "several of times" Go learn some correct grammar you pathetic fuck tart!
Gordo80 1 year ago
@Gordo80 yup use grammar instead of proving me wrong, you're still an idiot. especially if you think that no parent has ever killed their child because then your naive and ignorant.
cheeesonator 1 year ago
@cheeesonator Your calling me an idiot? Your a retarded dip-shit that lacks the ability to read, understand and comprehend plain English. Go back to Year 1 and start all over again, after graduating in 12 years time, come back to youtube and read my post again. I'll copy and paste it just for you. Start with pgmgames comment, located 7 comments above this one and then read my response - "No parent has ever killed their child and if you believe that your out of your fucking mind!" Idiot!
Gordo80 1 year ago
@Gordo80 well i was calling you an idiot for what i thought you were saying (i see what u your saying now)but in the comment it really looks like your saying the opposite of what you mean
cheeesonator 1 year ago
@cheeesonator I understand, it probably could be interpreted that way. I'm sorry for being a nasty asshole and calling you names. Sometimes I write a simple reply to something that starts out rather innocently and ends with a massive backlashing. I will try to be more respectful on here
Gordo80 1 year ago
@Gordo80 yeah no worries
cheeesonator 1 year ago
AAAAAAAAAAAAWWW you fagots made up and are now friends.. how cute. after you're done fucking him in the cheese you can respond to me bitch
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
you see I, unlike you, am not trying to prove a point or change anybody's mind or make friends, I (unlike you) have enough real life friends and I don't give a fuck about what you think. I've resigned myself to the fact that this world is full of morons and that it always will be.
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
Respond to this video... I'm just on here to laugh at you and to tell you what a fucking idiot you are. Whether I convince you of that fact or not is irrelevant to me and this has less to do with Jonbenet's innocent parents than it has to do with my disdain for your type of ignorance and quick clouded judgment
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
whats you point? does that mean that they killed their daughter?
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 why dont you stop stirring. you've said enough on here
Gordo80 1 year ago
why dont you suck my dick?
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 No thanks Crapcake. Go ask Patsy, she might
Gordo80 1 year ago
you're a moron. BUT I just came in your mouth so... it'll be another 20 minutes or so of ecstasy (on your part) before you'll be able to respond so I'll just sit back and enjoy the silence for now bitch :)
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
crapcake? lol, that's funny... that's what your mom called me after I crapped in her mouth. then we cuddled for a bit :)
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 yeah but you left out the part where she pissed all over you and stuck a chain saw up your ass
Gordo80 1 year ago
10 morons gave you a thumbs up... congratulations, you're still wrong.
cupcake4206969 1 year ago
@cupcake4206969 and nobody gave you a thumbs up... so sad, Patsys guilty and I'll always be singing that tune.
Gordo80 1 year ago
i can't believe this was nine years ago!
Tarynxooo 2 years ago
AFTER all this time... just observing them... Why does it feel like something is up??? So, so strange.
IndividuallyRapped22 2 years ago 2
What happened? "We don't remember"!! Oh my Gosh!!, Any evidence of foul play? "We didn't look!" !!! These two , I am speechless
Meoli55 2 years ago
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NicolaMG 2 years ago
at the end john says there guard went down they were complacent.. but how, they were in a locked house on xmas night, how was their guard down? what else could they have done, they were sleeping. this doesnt sound right to me
NicolaMG 2 years ago
i think that the parents did it. they dont remember crap about anything. u would remember all of it if that happend to u its something u would never forget
HSM5295 2 years ago
i think they paid someone off to protect thier name. there was no intruder.
BREAD12222 2 years ago
i can hear smeone crying in the backround ?
CourtneyCoombsx3 2 years ago 2
Really, we can go on and on and we are all entitled to our own opinions. They have reopened the case recently which is a step in the right direction and have cleared the Ramseys through Touch DNA and sent a letter to John Ramsey. More has to be done and at a quicker pace to solve this case, put egos aside get the job done, exhaust ALL leads thoroughly not partially and seek justice.
goldengirl67 2 years ago
I am already aware of those things. I honestly don't think there exists a single matter regarding this case that you could present to me that I don't already know. IF the re-opening of this case does do any good (nothing has become of it so far,) then it's about damn time, is all I have to say.
Palominto 2 years ago
"Call him Mr. Cautious. Boulder, Colo., District Attorney Stan Garnett isn't about to make the same mistakes as his two predecessors by opening or closing the umbrella of suspicion on any suspects in the unsolved murder of 6-year-old JonBenét Ramsey."
This is from an article from March 2009. Did you just stop listening to the news after you heard what you wanted to hear from Mary Lacy, the same woman who was POSITIVE that John Mark carr did it?
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
Palominto: Reread my comment - I am referring to the police (they) as botching the case, not JonBenet herself. And of course, we don't have all the answers but we still have the RIGHT to question matters beyond what the media/police feed us. The Ramseys also had two trips planned for their kids right after Christmas: Charlevoix and Disney as stated in their book - I ask myself, why would you kill the one you planned the trips for? Doesn't add up at all.
goldengirl67 2 years ago
Ah. I suppose I did misunderstand your final sentence in the comment. My apologies for that, but from the way you typed it out, it appeared as if you were saying JonBenet botched her own case.. Anyway, of course we have the right to question. That's all ANYONE can do, since nothing about this case makes any sense. I am not a believer of the media or the (idiotic) Boulder police, nor am I set on the fact that her parents killed her. I honestly don't know what to think anymore.
Palominto 2 years ago
Palominto: I question if there was really even a scream to begin with - tape was used in the crime, John Ramsey removed tape from his daughter's mouth. John Ramsey has since buried three young women in his immediate family !!and how does he still have the will to live? His faith keeps him going and he will be reunited with his loved ones one day. They need to find the perp(s) and give due justice to this family - they owe it to JonBenet for botching the case to begin with.
goldengirl67 2 years ago
It is highly unlikely that someone would make up a story of hearing a child's heart-rending scream. Yes, there WAS duct tape used in the crime. But no one knows WHEN it was used. The killer may have used it after JonBenet's scream for all anyone knows. The order of the series of events which took place in that basement are unknown. And would you care to tell me how JONBENET botched this case?? The only people responsible for that are the police and John Ramsey, who found her body.
Palominto 2 years ago
Another point: If the kidnapping was premeditated, why didn't the kidnapper(s) type it up on a computer days ahead or use words cut out of a magazine to allude detection through the handwriting? This is why I think it was all last minute and then the kidnapper thought better of it (kidnapping) and switched to murder instead. Also, were the Ramsey's robbed at all that night of some of their possessions? Can we rule out robbery as the motive or is it clearly a vendetta?
goldengirl67 2 years ago
Again, I can't answer those questions. If the killer was an intruder, he obviously did not come equipped with writing supplies since the sharpie and paper belonged to Patsy Ramsey. In short, he used what he could find in the house. The easiest way to write a note? Paper and a pen. Not searching for a computer and typing the note up there. And no, there was absoloutely NO signs or indications of robbery being a motive. Noting was missing or even moved, aside from the tools used to kill JonBenet.
Palominto 2 years ago
There are less things more exhausting than Christmas on top of eveyday life? Are you kidding me? I start shopping in late October? and I am still running around like crazy days before doing stuff for eveyone else! Christmas is a blur half the time between shopping, cooking, wrapping, decorating, phone calls, not to mention cleaing my whole house non-stop! When I go to visit I am out of breath grateful to sit down and rest and that someone else is cooking for me!
goldengirl67 2 years ago
I was not saying that Christmas isn't exhausting. Of course it is, or can be. But you are referring to the entire holiday, from beginning to end. I'll agree it is probably the most tedious and time-consuming holiday preparation-wise. However, my point was that even if someone had just arrived home from a day of Christmas festivities and had fallen asleep, anyone would think that they SHOULD have been able to hear their daughter's blood-curdling scream several floors below.
Palominto 2 years ago
cont'd. ransom note: use of "attache" don't people today say briefcase? Scrutiny, gentlemen, and hence - these words someone with a higher level of education/lifestyle chooses to use. The note was written on the 25th because of the word "tomorrow" referencing the 26th. The word "Victory": this guy(s) (S.B.T.C.?)wanted victory over Mr. Ramsey and no mention of JonBenet's name in the note itself. John Ramsey is not orig from the south either. The movie RANSOM was playing in Boulder at the time.
goldengirl67 2 years ago
That can't be determined as a fact. IF this note was written on the 25th, the killer would have had hours (as we've all heard countless times) and was obviously in no hurry to get the hell out of the house. He took his time and carefully chose his words. If someone was intending to get away with a kidnapping, murder, etc, of course he wouldn't have written the note in his usual style. He would disguise his writing style as much as he possibly could. And he had the time to do so.
Palominto 2 years ago
con'td. As for the scream in the basement? The family had spent a busy day non-stop with festivities and hanging out with friends which is EXHAUSTING! John and Patsy were running around doing last minute preparations - are you going to drop like a rock into bed that night? - hec yes!!! and they had to rise at 5:30am the next morning. That's why I asked you if you were a parent and do you understand fighting exhaustion when you have millions of things to do before you can even think of sleep?
goldengirl67 2 years ago
Exhaustion was not the reason that the Ramseys (apparently) did not hear their daughter's scream. First of all, there are much more exhausting things than a Christmas party, but that is beside the point. One of the Ramsey's neighbours, who lived less than 100 feet away, heard the harrowing scream of a child that (according to her statements) "pierced the stillness of the night" at approximately 2:00 A.M. (I'll continue this in a second comment)
Palominto 2 years ago
"It was the most horrible scream I have ever heard in my entire life. It sent shivers down my spine. I could tell the sound was coming from the Ramsey house and I knew it had to be their little girl, JonBenét." One cannot possibly read that statement and believe that the Ramseys, exhausted or not, couldn't have heard that scream for themselves. Regardless of the tests performed, which suggested that the scream escaped the house through a basement pipe, but would not have been heard upstairs.
Palominto 2 years ago
Palominto: Why didn't the neighbour send her husband over or call to make sure everything was OK? if she even thought it was JonBenet she should have taken the time to call the cops or knock on their door to rule out something bad? Why was the neighbour's window ajar in the middle of winter? just weird. Wouldn't her bedroom get cold over the course of the night? I keep a fan near my bed if I feel hot - not open my window in the winter, my husband would protest about the heat loss.
goldengirl67 2 years ago
I can't give you those answers, or speak for the neighbour herself. I am only going off what I've heard and read. It was a quiet, peaceful city with very little crime history. Like anyone, she would not have assumed a murder was occurring less than 100 feet from her home. She WAS concerned, however, and remained awake for 10 minutes thinking the child may have been injured. But after hearing nothing else, went back to sleep. And as for her window being open, for all anyone knows, it was closed.
Palominto 2 years ago
Cont'd.. possbility that an intruder could have done it, but I also know there's a possibly that at least one of the parents were involved. I mean, have you read the ransom note? Things said in it don't make any sense. So many things about this case don't make sense or add up.
ImmortalDrkSoul 2 years ago
cont'd. and for the sake of arguments, the American public was just coming off the OJ case of 1994: he was rich, goodlooking, polished like the Ramseys, diff is OJ clearly was guilty. Calm down and use your judgment, separate the facts from fiction and you'll see the miscarriage of justice. Look up David Milgaard (a movie was made about his case) and Guy Paul Morin on the internet - both innocent men and both sent to prison, then set free years later.
goldengirl67 2 years ago
I do know all of the facts in this case. I've done some extensive reading and research about this case. And I don't mean by reading tabloids either. I didn't rush to judgement by assuming it was the parents. There's a lot of cirumstantial evidence against Patsy. I know about the unknown male DNA that was found on both JonBenet's underwear and long johns. I know about the shoeprint found next to her body, the public hair found on the public, I know all the facts here. I know there is the....
ImmortalDrkSoul 2 years ago
You and I are on two separate pages here: the guy (and the police have his DNA on file) who did this was not mentally stable and had warped perception obviously, he was delusional to think he could do this in the first place!Writing a ransom note was risky to leave behind because it was done in handwriting and this is identifiable. OJ had a history of violence which was recorded and documented and Nicole's family were aware of the abuse. The Ramsey's have no motive or history of abuse.
goldengirl67 2 years ago
She is such a fucking liar. I don't care if she is dead or not. I HIGHLY doubt that she woke up and got dressed "hurriedly" that morning. She was wearing the SAME clothes from the night before and STILL in full makeup. Yeah, I'm so sure she even went to bed that night. I don't buy ANY of her bullshit. BOTH of them lie through their teeth and they both know it! Their little book was nothing more than to cash in on JonBenet's death.
ImmortalDrkSoul 2 years ago
Immortal: Have you read their book? Are you a parent? Do you know about DNA? If the killer was in the house for hours, he would have had access to ALL of their belongings. Why would he bring along his own paper/pen? This looks like a botched kidnapping to me that was abandoned last minute. I myself being a busy Mom, have had to dash out the door last minute just after thowing my clothes on from the night before - it's not unheard of!
goldengirl67 2 years ago
It looks like a botched kidnapping? What kidnapper writes a 2 1/2 page ransom note? What kidnapper feels that comfortable inside someone else's home without the fear of getting caught (after they returned home)? If a neighbor really did hear a scream from a little girl coming from the Ramsey house, why didn't the parents themselves hear it?
ImmortalDrkSoul 2 years ago
That neighbor later said that she was unsure if she heard a scream or not. Also, a sound test was done on the Ramsye home and it was proven that even if Jonbenet did scream, no one would have heard it.
scorpianofthesun 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong: I think the parents are completely innocent, but she leaves out too much detail!, people need to hear more to get a clearer picture, they seem run down and exasperated even nervous sometimes, but can you really blame them.
goldengirl67 2 years ago
You must be joking. You seriously CANNOT believe the parents are "completely innocent." Do you realize the notepad used to write the ransom note belonged to Patsy? The Sharpie marked used to write it belonged to Patsy. The broken paintbrush used to make the garrote belonged to Patsy. You're going to sit there and tell me she wasn't involved one way or another? PLEASE!
ImmortalDrkSoul 2 years ago
Some red flags in this interview:
3:57 : Patsy Ramsey remembers that she wakes up, and then *hurriedly* gets dressed and goes downstairs.
4:58 : Patsy Ramsey does NOT remember what happened after she found the note. See also 5:15--John Ramsey gets slightly agitated, saying "we don't remember".
ALSO, 6:42 : Larry asks when they saw JonBenet after the none. John's response, "You mean, when did they find her".
The kicker is...HE found her.
mrosnbrg20 2 years ago 2
not bein racest or anithin but u cant trust them white people they do anything to save money,their guilty as hell!look at how their acting its their fine she dead! fucken killers!
laronzbby 2 years ago
@laronzbby i wouldnt say you cant trust white people but there is something dodgy about most wealthy successful people who are highly regarded by their communities. Most tend to turn out as creeps in the end.
667neighborofdabeast 11 months ago
guilty fuckheads
CindyRose1 2 years ago
Patsy said: I got dressed hurriedly and went downstairs (how far down in the house did she go to do this packing? wouldn't she have passed the note on the stairs?) to pack a few things for the trip? What "things" was she talking about: clothes, snacks from the kitchen, linens? And did she keep their luggage in their rooms or have to haul them out of the basement? Did she do any prepacking at all to save time? Very odd.
goldengirl67 2 years ago
Extremely odd! What I'm wondering about, also, is why she says she woke up (around 5:30 AM) and *hurriedly* got dressed and gone downstairs. Hurriedly gotten dressed in the same clothes she wore the night before--we are expected to believe.
mrosnbrg20 2 years ago
Patsy Ramset comes home Christmas night wearing a red sweater and black pants.This is all documented. At 6am next morning police arrive to Patsy in THE SAME clothes,and in full make up.
We are expected to believe that a wealthy woman who had always dressed so well got up and put on the same clothes....AND full make up after she "found a ransom note.
The reason Patsy had the same clothes and full make up was that she had not been to sleep that night as she claimed.
completesimplicity 3 years ago
Why didn't someone ask them why 12/25/96
is on her headstone.
They know she died before midnight,and they were asked to take lie detectors many times,
and refused.
Patsy wrote the ransom note,everyone agrees about that,they were just too rich too prosecute.
beejays11 3 years ago
I cant belive how they are acting if my dad found me dead he would not be able to talk about it they know more than we know and when the mom died she took they story with her!!!
dogfin100 3 years ago
Is there any way you can put up the show with former Detective Steve Thomas and the Ramseys'? Also, I would like to say, this case was strange as hell; making the Ramseys' suspicious but you have to admit, the cops messed up, too! So who is to say they are guilty?
ocsasha 3 years ago
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i was watching haunting evidence this show where these sychics(dont know how to spell it) find new evidence for unsolved cases and they were investigating Jonbenet and they said it was a security guard(had stungun) that worked with the dad and new he had 118,000 bonus, he also went to her pageants a lot and spyed, video taped her, and even said he was her dad at one of her pageants. The intruder also was broke into the basement window before they got home and familiarize himself with it.
Amberisthebestjkjk 3 years ago
Of the over 500 handwriting samples the FBI collected from individuals, Patsy Ramsey was the ONLY ONE who could not be eliminated as the ransom note writer. The Ramseys waited 5 months before they finally agreed to talk to police about their daughters death. There was NO evidence of an intrduer. None. Zero. Nada. And bedwetting at 6 years old is a sign of sexual abuse. The Ramseys are guilty as hell.
ChrisArlingtonVA 3 years ago
MURDERERS!!! ...just joking...???...
foreverZONEmusic 3 years ago
I'm not saying the Ramseys are guilty, but how can they not remember quite a significant event that happened just 3 years prior?
chelsea1802 3 years ago 3
LMAO at the happy music and Larry's upbeat attitude when this couples daughter died!
LessaPie 3 years ago 2
Jonbenet Ramsey's Praents Are INNOCENT (FUCK IT Took Time To Find That Out 12 Yrs)
Rest In Peace Little Jonbenet + Patsy
Keep Goin Strong John + Burke =)
xoWithLoveox 3 years ago
WHAT DO THEY MEAN THEY DONT REMEMEBER? hes like oh it was 3 years ago. its not like he was asking what he had for breakfast 3 years ago, youd think that remember something as big as this! and is it mean or does the story change a little a lot??
nickjishottforsure 3 years ago
The Ramseys have been very consistent on every fact that they can recall. On everything they can remember, they've kept with the same stories. As for this specific remark of them not being able to remember exactly what they did upon finding JonBenét gone, it seems absolutely reasonable to me. Imagine your panic upon finding out your six-year-old daughter is gone, for how long you have no idea. Your mind goes a million different places. From there, everything is a blur.
kelspels11 3 years ago
Always remember, to be a good lair ya have to have a good memory, something which the ramsey's do not have!!
djpitchperfect 3 years ago
you mispelled liar you fucking moron
tee hee hee
victorlennyfan80 3 years ago
who gives a fuck, ya still understood what the word is!! only a geek would point that out!!!
djpitchperfect 3 years ago
No one started crying and wasn't the mother smile more that frowning....hmmmm....i don't know.
evanmartin85 3 years ago
God bless Patsy and Jonbenet, They are together now :(
The ramseys have always been innocent
newzealandgal74 3 years ago
"It was three years ago, we don't remember." I can't accept that. We lost a family member in tragic circumstances 13 years go and we can all remember every detail -- that's our curse. Memories still keep us up at night from time to time. You never forget.
LWOPP 3 years ago 2
yeah excalty!!
djpitchperfect 3 years ago 2
Huhh ?
xoWithLoveox 3 years ago
It took me 8 years to get over my brother's death from cancer....these people are being interviewed here 4 years after the brutal killing of their young daughter and they don't seem distraught at all. Wierd.
macksfischer 3 years ago
all you guys are wrong.....but im not gonna lie, i thought they did it too.
jldtsu2400 3 years ago
innocent
jldtsu2400 3 years ago 2
Ramseys' are guilty as sin.
will0505 3 years ago
its kind of weird.. they dont sound so sad
kierramorganlawrence 3 years ago
agree.. no trace of sadness at all. all through out the interview!!!
willenkeigh 3 years ago
It always baffled me that paedophiles would be interested in kids that looked like adults. When adults are not what they are looking for. Surely it's a contradiction. However,not being a paedophile myself,I can't understand the whole thing.
onstageagain 3 years ago
Not being a paedophile myself,I can't understand the whole thing.
Kids beauty pagents are certainly freaky. However,I'm less concerned about the fact that they could be soft core paedophile porn,(I mean,let's face it,pagents or not,there will always be paedophiles), rather than the fact that if a child grows up always trying to please people in every way then she will surely turn out to be a very messed up individual.
onstageagain 3 years ago
The parents try to justify the pageants by saying that the kids enjoy them yet I honestly can't believe that these children would have the capacity to actually choose to do this voluntarily at their age without their stage-mothers pushing them so fiercely.
Wrong. Very, very wrong.
Children should be seen as asexual. They shouldn't be plastered in make-up or wearing short skirts and tiny tops. When the parents of these kids tart them up to look like adults, it's every paedophile's dream
onstageagain 3 years ago