Steinberg Pro24 (Cubase) Atari MT32 Roland AlphaJuno

[1xstew]

Rock on Pro 24 . .

[maccagrabme]

Who would want to go back to that in their right mind? Sorry I'll stick with Cubase SX and to my ears the midi doesn't sound any tighter either. I've had an Atari and it was good for its time but lets not overhype it. For a start there is no way on this earth I'm using floppy disks again.

[MrDebauch]

nice man.. classic sound on the real deal

[ScienceFictionHairdo]

Very nice dude! But can you tell me what the advantages of an old atari are over a modern desktop with cubase on it? I'm kindof a noob with this entire Atari-cubase thing, so it's kindof hard for me to understand why people would stick to such an old computer rather than to upgrade to a modern version of cubase on a faster computer (other than just because the old school shit looks much cooler XD)

[Toffeln]

The midi is superfast on the atari

[AGWhiteman]

@Toffeln I was reading that the Atari Midi controller is an 8Mhz chip while even in the later Apples they only used 1Mhz. It's not necessarily that you can get a 32k baud Midi Signal on the atari and the 38k serial on the Apple, it's the off balance of the Apple running a high speed Cpu against a low speed controller, where as the Atari is in sync.

All Atari midi tracks pushrecords.official.fm

[NotMarkKnopfler]

No jitter or timing lag with the Atari. Completely rock solid timing. This is due to it's single tasking operating system. The PC, with it's multi-tasking OS is doing too many other things at the same time. While it's driving your MIDI devices it's also checking for Spyware, firewalls, anti-virus, emails, internet, OS updates and god knows what else... The Atari runs ONE program at a time. The MIDI program (Cubase) has TOTAL control over the WHOLE computer. Hope this helps.

[snotmale]

...not strictly true, as (depending on memory fitted) you can run multiple Desktopp Accessories in real time too. Here I run 3 plus have a resettable Ram Disk loaded!

[karadok666]

@snotmale do you use Mint or Magic? Normal TOS does not work with Accessories in realtime. It does switch to Accessories.

[man0in0a0funny0hat]

@karadok666 Hi - no normal TOS (1.2 even I think as is an STf model) However, I have 4Mb RAM retro fitted. Yes, I can realtime the Midi desk accs for my setup, except for the partial switcher which is a static command in the Roland module itself.

[Dant2142]

@NotMarkKnopfler That's because they bog down today's comps too much for the idiots that can't learn how to use them. A little common sense is worth more than any anti-virus, Browser-based E-mail is a must, and for god's sake turn off Windows Update!!!

[Ryoga2K]

@NotMarkKnopfler To be honest yeah! i had problems with PC's timing back in the day (actually I didn't had any with my first PC, then with my second PC I had them) but later I learned it depended on the soundcard or MIDI interface I used not, MIDI is fairly easy to handle but still hardware has to be good and not a pseudo software solution, still I do like the ST because there's nothing else to distract you is like powering up a dedicated Sequencing Device.

[ElasticMinds]

@ScienceFictionHairdo Timing and very low jitter. Most modern systems have lots of jitter problems, which is why Ataris are still used for midi in some studios. Im still looking for a modern solution myself.

[dvamateur]

Nice setup. I am a big fan of Roland D-series as well as Atari ST. But I since I unwisely gave away my ST, I used QY700 for most of my stuff.

[xoio]

I remember using Pro-24 III in the early 90's.

Trouble was, i was creating dance music, - with the evolution of BPM's going through the roof.. I was really pushing the limites of what 24 & the atari could cope with.. & in the end started to experience timing errors, even when closely examing each track & not seeing any errors of any data type ..

I use the QY700 now. after getting pissed of with Cubase.

[snotmale]

Upgrading the ST to 4Mb and simply PLAYING BACK your tunes in a Midi player running in a Virtual RAM DISK can solve this...

[helloverybody34]

i have the same set up. i want steinberg pro 24 for my pc but i dont think i can get it for my pc. emulators?? help!

[snotmale]

it is:

Atari IN to Out of master keyboard

Atari Out to IN of master keyboard

Master Keyboard THRU to IN of MT32 (or other module)

MT32 (or other module) OUT to IN or THRU to additional keyboard/Module - depends on mftrs adherence to MIDI standard

[NightSprinter]

Very nice. I actually have an original Steinberg Synthworks D-50 disk here (part of a massive Atari ST lot I got for free from a musician on Craigslist). Unfortunately, I have no way to use it as the security key is missing.

Just curious though, how are the devices connected in terms of MIDI?

[roberthlubnaomi]

that 12 string sounds nice

[Rbrownsword]

I imagine 1985 in a German nightclub chillout room.

[ScreamingTubes]

Great sequencing...real feeling...

[snotmale]

...Its like riding a bicycle! Actually does an awful lot more than was documented - often you stumble on it by mistake! I will never dispose of my ST as it is so dependable, the only downside is the wear on the Pro24 dongle that actually started early on. As Steinberg had just brought out Cubase they wouldn't replace it - I had even paid an additional £25 for registration and updates. So I have a crack'd Cubase V1 Only fair under the circumstances - Pro24 cost me £220 in '88!

[neonhaze34]

Gosh that's nostalgic for me. I used to use Pro24 with Kawai K4 and PHm / Korg Ply 800 and Zoom FX up until about 2000.

I miss the simplicity of it all.

I actually miss the Atari ST loads...

I'm using Reason 4 rewired to Cubase Studio 4 and my trusty Korg Trinity V3 now. ;)

Good to hear that old late 80's early 90's style

All the best,

NeoN HaZe

[underwoodblog]

nice warm sounds