Another state of mind part 6

[8Dgman]

@guidedbythespirit

whatever works for you. not always for everyone

[WMUnited]

Nice directional light at 3:52 hahahahaha

[marcusguernsey]

nutcases,punks dont need to be saved,they just need to support themselves and stand on their own 2 feet

[goducks20101]

Ones behavior brings God glory, not whether they have a mohawk or tatoos.

[BinTHEWOODS666]

A religion based on fear. How healthy is that?

[deathbypowerglove]

You can't have a fucking opinion on something you have no familiarity with.

[CrashWilde]

...I have no words for what I just saw

[RichardCyberPunk]

I dont like the christian talk in this footage. Jesus made wine out of water. Was jesus an alcoholic ? Dont know, do you ? Anyhow, i am a cyberpunkrocker, a punkrocker, a human. I sometimes drink alcohol. I sometimes go to hardcore punk gigs, and i believe in god. Am i bad man, or a good man ? When alcohol was bad against god, when did god made us humans able to create alcohol in the first place ? Even monks in Belgium are famous for making Belgian Beer. Cheers!

[xrayspexyes]

i have mad respect for their christianity...

[cfak211]

jesus christ can suck my dick

[HaKuBoMb]

marcel is the sane one out of everyone... brian too

[HaKuBoMb]

fuck this..... this shits stupid as fuck...

[AliensexKitten000]

Didnt jesus say "come as you are"??? God loves all no matter what kind of lifestyle you live. You dont have to Turn from who you are and what you like to fit societys idea of a clean cut "christian", Because God made you who you are in the first place.

[Oi325]

incase none of you know the game labeled John is the John Macias singer of Circle One in the previous video part 5 the dude smirking while moshing into the pit is wearing a circle one shirt however this is the only footage of him speaking other than just straight photos

[TheSonicchick]

How can you replace punk with church hymns?!!!!

[neurocytohemotoxic]

Fuck religion. Religion doesn't help people. It gives them false hope.

[MrPunkRock911]

@neurocytohemotoxic isn't that better than no hope. not trying to argue, just saying.

[Bakersfieldsucks777]

@MrPunkRock911 -actually i would say it's not, believing a lie and then figuring out it was just that, a lie, would really suck

[MrPunkRock911]

@Bakersfieldsucks777 yeah it would.

[Bakersfieldsucks777]

@MrPunkRock911 -well it depends, if u just believed it casually then it wouldn't be a big deal, but if u like dedicated ur whole life to a certain belief and missed out on a lot of stuff in doing so, and then their ended up being nothing on the other side, it would blow,haha

[misfitsruby]

religion won't change anything

[carnifex714]

that dude looks like gg allin without the glasses and mustache

[Afrosamurai532]

@carnifex714 witch one??

[carnifex714]

@Afrosamurai532 the Christian one

[ColinTheButthead]

john 19:3 Jesus said to his aposcels "fuck you bitches i'll turn water into mine if i want to"

[slamminhole69]

you have to be clean cut for God to love you...wrong

[slamminhole69]

closed minded preacher

[jonasbjarke]

Jesus loves punks, porn-stars, fags, dykes, heshers, and maybe even jocks.

[TheNewMusicNetwork]

@jonasbjarke fags and dykes? no.

[597593abel]

i think jesus is one of everything. cuz he the one that created this life.

[agentmikeyman]

punk saved me from my wretched christian ways.

[guidedbythespirit]

Its easy as Johnny Rotten saying one, two, three. All you gotta do is accept him (Jesus Christ into your heart) because you are a bloody tampon worthless and unworthy piece of cow manure. And its freedom from then on, freedom of religion and this world. Try it, I did and it is total anarchy in the heart. Christ Jesus is punk, read the Book of matthew for yourself and you'll see why he is the First Punk Rocker, He died was beaten close to death and arose fromthegravenowthat is PUNK ROCK

[SLAPnPOP726]

To say, 'no, you can't listen to this, act like this, or look this way if you wanna be saved' sounds like softcore fascism to me.

[deathbypowerglove]

It seems that more problems are caused by religion sticking their noses into other peoples business then Mike Ness playing "Mommy's Little Monster"

[freebord9]

Now that's just silly.

[PETRAXZ]

Jesus Christ was like us man! An outcast and his views/opinions were always stomped on. People don't realize that,whatever,who cares! THIS IS PUNK ROCK!

[therath94]

Jesus was punk he had his own Ideas and own beliefs and didn't give a fuck if people said no your wrong he died for his ideas whats more punk than that?

[jcmangan]

This devil`s advocate really frightens me.

"It does not bring that much glory." That`s a nice point of view. :-)

[brix42]

punks in Christ , thats just silly.lol 

[justbrandon666]

if you watch the dvd with commentary they admit the whole church scene was fake. Is that John Macias?

[ariesram74]

I think Jesus was a punk rocker - in fact I know he is!

[marlanembutol]

@ariesram74 XD <3

[Boogieboy138]

im not a guy who just starts talking shit on religion and saying "god doesnt exsisit" or shit like that. if you wanna believe in god and whatnot, thats fine by me, just dont try and force me to get me to believe that their is a god. ill respect you, and you respect me.

[xblotterx]

Oh Shit!! That was John Macias from Circle One. If you aren't aware of him google him. He got shot by cops in 91 i believe it was after he threw a dude off the Santa Monica pier.

[captianlinger1]

the devil's greatest trick is to convince you he's not real

[kolitodisaster]

@captianlinger1 the church greatest trick is to convince you their god is real

[osocali]

theres alot of people that have accepted Christ from this scene as a matter of fact I accepted Christ at the Cathay de Grande club in hollywood at a Vox Pop gig in 1984....and I'm still following Christ...this is the most radical exciting this in my life....it's all about the Kingdom of God now....hey Monk....when the times get hard the people of God get closer to Jesus and He blows us aways at how Good and Loving He is.....

[osocali]

because we live opposite of what this crazy world teaches....Jesus was the ultimate Rebel he lived a life of Love and Truth and he stood against this world to the point of dying on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins and to show us how to live a life in Gods Love and with his power....Jesus doesnt just change our actions He changes our hearts and we WANT to and have the Power to change our lives....I like and respect Shawn and Keith but I dont agree with them...

[osocali]

I knew Mark the guy that took in those kids and he was a cool sincere dude I knew John too he had a band called Circle One....and I to became a follower of Jesus....I finally got the peace and love that I was searching for...I know some of you guys think this is a bunch of nonsense, I know RELIGION has let us down but having a Relationship with GOD is totally different.....realy beleiver in Christ are the real Rebels

[jrhcp31]

5:00 "fuck you then you sleep outside, dick!"

[Punshr]

That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.

You can't save Punks with Religion beacause they're not lost or in need of salvation.

[OllieAverage]

@Punshr I don't know, it's posisble some of them could have some issues.

[OllieAverage]

possible*

[Afrosamurai532]

@Punshr punks think they don't need salvation but i'm a religous punk

[BrendynW]

@Punshr people say punk is nihilistic, and its just straight up not true. I am a very strong christian, and i love punk with all my heart

[ThePunkIrish27]

lol its kind of funny how they open their house to all those punks... you'd think maybe they'd catch on and realize they were only staying because they needed a place to sleep and food to eat... least that how the lot of them were id say

[jks2]

that's a cool school bus! it probably ended up at the scrapyard

[VyleKyle]

In my own chest, I feel there is a god and he is pure sadistic indifference. In my mind, I feel that I can't prove or disprove the existence of a god. So I say: "Fuck it. I don't give a shit." And I really, really don't. And, when people come to me about it and fuck with me because of it, I sometimes try to politely decline, though it almost always ends with me having to tell them to "FUCK OFF NOW."

[ljshoreslokal]

They were probably certified mechanics by the end of the tour with that bus always breaking down, that's got to suck. Just shows the commitment they all had to keep going even when it got rough (for most of them anyways).

[aphrodelict]

is he talking about video games in 5:25 ???? do you all remember "pong" ?

[OllieAverage]

@aphrodelict Monk had pac man fever

[NOBODYPICKEDTHISNAME]

I feel like all humans are hypocrits in one way or another... we will never be perfect, so I just try and do my best and try not to bitch and complain too much

[NOBODYPICKEDTHISNAME]

most religions are pretty much aimed at helping people,and i like this concept... its people "associated" with certain religions thinking they're better than others and trying to control and judge others that make religion a turn off for some (its politics that fuck up religion) so feel free to hate "religion" ... meanwhile I will continue accept people for who they are and stay away from the politicians. its like racism... there's shithead people of every ethnicity, so do you hate ethnicity?

[RATTTHEPUNK]

holy shit john macias..

[Jacklord1967]

Yeah @ 1:12 he was a BA christian. Cool guy but ran hot & cold he was always cool to me. But he did have problems & would lose his mind from time to time. Sad . He took care of a lot of kids in Hollywood I know/knew a lot of these kids in this flick his 'Family' to bad he got shot by the Santa Monica PD

[njj37]

would of been hilarious to see them pushn that bus

[SPAZZUNAKI]

I just think they like sucking the preists cock.

[sixstringsobel]

4:03 who hasn't been there?

[aikidoka1975]

i think church could help those kids without brainwashed them with religious bullshit!!!they must believe for themselves if they not for the imposition of starvation

[Infinitespeculator]

I'm a Christian and was a punk. No I didn't get 'saved' from the punk scene. First I grew up and second many punks have a far left view of the world. Guess what that kind of mindset brought? Hitler, Chavez, Stalin, etc. I identify myself as a libertarian, which is the opposite of the collectivism often embraced by the punks.

[MaxWinchester666]

you call it ''help''

i think they are lucky with the things thex do and have

[Dexter956]

I believe that Christianity should stay away from Punk Rock and should have no say IN Punk Rock.

[OneManArmy1421]

that's a pretty fascist viewpoint. punk rock is whatever we make it.

[Dexter956]

How is it a fascist point of view?

please explain.

[OneManArmy1421]

you're trying to dictate what should or shouldn't be a part of something that's different to everyone. there has been good punk in the name of God (Bad Brains, Smoking Popes, Shelter) just like there has been good punk that questioned it (Bad Religion, Crass, etc). Everyone has a different idea of what is punk, so why try and tell people what they should believe?

[Dexter956]

Same as religion, forcing its rules down our throats. I understand what you mean about what I said, but I don't see it anywhere close to Fascism. Religion to me is just another set of government but with a higher being telling you what to do and not to do. I feel that Christianity infiltrates Punk Rock because Punk Rock is against that and the Christian view, the militant "We're right, you're wrong, join us" point of view. If you wanna talk about it, lets cause I can't express more in this box.

[OneManArmy1421]

Ok, I understand the premise, but I think you have confused the broader concept of religion with Christ's teachings. Ideas like "love thy enemy," "the meek shall inherit the earth," and concepts of pacifism, socialism, non-materialism and tolerance are often incorporated into punk anyway, just without noting their spiritual origins. though for evidence check out Reagan Youth - "Jesus Was a Communist"

[Dexter956]

Yes, I understand the idea of "Love thy enemy" but in this country that idea has gone wrong and it has over the years. I do not accept religion because of it. I don't like the belief of A God because I think it's wrong spending your time on something that isn't going to help such as the "power" of prayer. I'd rather not and just keep on living my life. I have heard that song before and talking about the Bad Brains. They have good music, but are homophobes and sexists.

[RATTTHEPUNK]

if religion could dissapear, i would let it dissapear,.its good that some people who need to belive in something go to it for motivation..but its still bs that they cant just put faith in themselve.

yeah i heard about the bad brains and mdc and big boys how.thats pretty homophobic..but then again its not just their religion, many blacks were kinda homophobic.like i used to go to a 96 percent black school and many black guys did not tolerate homosexuals that well by the way they talked bout them

[RATTTHEPUNK]

its kind of like saying jews should burn in the oven..or some shit like that to some ppl who consider it fascist... yeah many ideologies in punk rock is anti conformist and anti religion but everyone has their beliefs, but at least they dont shove it down other punks throat, and most who are religious arent very religious at all.. like me..i dont believe in god..but i believe in some moral values explained in the bible... and theres nothing wrong with that.

[Afrosamurai532]

@OneManArmy1421 i also agree that would be like making a rule for punk witch there are rules yu can be watever religion yu want example im a catholic punk

[RATTTHEPUNK]

but it is fascist to say someone doesnt belong in the scene becase of their religion..most punk is anti fascist and shit, you can hate religion, like i do, but dont go rejecting people just because of what they believe in, unless its some sick shit that no one can stand..

[Dexter956]

First of all, go ahead and believe it, I never said people weren't welcome. I said Christianity(the belief) should stay away from Punk.

I hate religion but I still have friends in religion as well, and I accept them because they're not like that. Religion is a joke and that joke should just stay away.

Read into the Bad Brains when they got into that trouble with MDC and the Big Boys. They wrote good music but they're dumbasses for their ideals and the behavior religion made them into.

[RATTTHEPUNK]

sorry man.. i didnt know that was actually what u meant lol.yeah i too hate religion, but i just go to church to read the bible, not to worship anyone. im not really into it at all..i dont care what religion people are either as long as they dont force it into our minds and tell us we have to believe their conspiracys and worship their idols. because that causes wars. look at the middle east.. . its all stupid..

[Dexter956]

I don't believe in God not only because of the ideas, but its followers really turn me away from it. I do understand the bible because Christ was an all loving person and what gets me more angry is the followers who manipulate God's word into their own hands by asking for money and to spread the word. The word is spread by megalomaniacs who seek total control. Just look at our last president who manipulated the bible into his hands to the American people to vote for him.

[Jacklord1967]

Try separating other peoples ideas of 'God' from what you FEEL in your own chest. Powers structures by human being for selfish reasons shouldn't be allowed to keep you from seeing your way of interacting with the world. Punk has its own reality maps that others what to impose on other punks. Consider the map vs the actual terrain. Just my late nite thoughts . I need to gio to bed UUUrrrg!

[SoldierofFortune07]

LolLieCock why don't you just leave skatepunkzero alone? Just because he/she stated that his beliefs you had to insult him/her by pointing out their spelling inaccuracies. Get a life and stop pointing out the faults of others

[mpkpkm]

Yeah!John Macias RIP.

[somepunxguy]

the og singer of la hardcore band cirle one 1:29 good band lol

[RPhoton]

Thanks heaps for uploading, you legend.

Awesome to see Mike Ness and Social D so young.

Hopefully you'll get around to uploading the rest, that would be sick.

[skatepunkzero]

Whens the rest gona be uploaded?

[skatepunkzero]

why do people always think punk and chirstianity can't go together. I'm a chirstian and I love punk rock Ive always believed that God wanted us to do things on are own and look to jesus for guideance. Just like at crashdog and childern 18:3 their chirstian.

[LoLLieCock]

Why is that people who claim they are christian always fail at spelling CHRISTIAN!!! Also like to introduce you to the other forms of the words you were trying to use: I'm guessing are=our and their=they're

[OllieAverage]

LoLLIeCock- If you really want to get critical about grammar, take a look at your first sentence. It should have ended with a question mark and not exclamation points.