Les Baricades Mistérieuses de Couperin - Luc Beauséjour, clavecin / harpsichord

[ajhiflyer]

I don't see how anything concerning petticoats can be too fast.. Said petticoats will move according to their wearers and whatever they are doing - fast or slow. :))

A delicious piece of music and played with style.

[MucusFelidae]

If it is really a song about petticoats, it is played too fast.

[donwroyer]

Such a beautiful composition! Were all of the young women really kept behind a wall separate from the

rest of the town?

[Christherpiper]

Debate over all my opinion is more right than yours is ultimately meaningless as there is no set way to perform a piece, and matters much in how a single performer acts upon mood and feelings. So in the end, feel yourself how YOU feel the piece and keep it to yourself, everyone has their own thoughts and no one is correct. Even should the composer comment he would be judged wrong by certain others, but in the end, it is art and art should be enjoyed and not critiqued.

[Christherpiper]

Ask a painter what his art means and he can give you a thousand answers.

Music is like that in that the piece is what your interpretation about the performance and the musician's interpretation of the composer's work.

[Freakfolker]

I take it to mean the 'Veil'...'Death' the barrier between this life and the next. Of course there's a possibility Couperin may have referred to the female petticoats of the day for inspiration, but the piece doesn't sound like it; it sounds very contemplative, brooding, meditative. It doesn't sound like sexual frustration to me.....you people seem silly on here bickering, by the way. Go study Music History and ethnomusicology for a while, then come back and try to match wits

[paradoxicus]

Al inferir las estructuras hay una formal de 74 compases,disonancias dentro de la armonía y posiblemente otra estructura mas opaca cuyo significado vivencial el sabía al nombrar ésta obra de dicha forma."Les baricades misteriuses" o "Les barricades myste'rieuses"..

[paradoxicus]

Compuesta en 1.716.Su título puede pertenecer a la simple libertad del compositor.No creo que en modo alguno,sea una tentativa del romanticismo,si bien,su propia estructura y sobre todo título sea un enigma.

Barricada es sinónimode obstrucción u obstáculo.

Misteriosas.Pero no en la estructura.Estribillos con estrofas que desarrollan un tema acertadísimo y muy bello en su aparente sencillez.(disonancias incluidas).

¿Acaso sea una simple invocación a la traba social de consumar el amor?

[frenchiecocorico1]

@paradoxicus El titulo de una obra pertenece todavia a la libertad de su compositor. Es estupido decir que aquel titulo fue de inspiraciòn romantica. Por ahora, nadie puede decir seguramente cual es el verdadero significado de este titulo.

Lo mas probable sugiere que "Les baricades mistérieuses" fueron las numerosas enguas que las mujeres llevaban bajo sus faldas. Aquellas "Baricades" ocultaron un misterioso objeto y constituyeron tantos obstaculos contra el ardor enamorado de los galanes.

[paradoxicus]

@frenchiecocorico1 Si lo repasas verás que en ningún momento diga que el título sea de inspiración romántica.

sic"NO creo que en modo alguno,sea una tentativa del romanticismo..."

Hablas de enaguas y obstáculos contra el ardor enamorado de los galanes.

Yo hablo de obstáculos y trabas sociales de consumar el amor.

¡Coincidimos!

Los dos hablamos de la libertad del compositor.

El título es su libertad.

El contenido de ésta música es extremadamente bello.

Saludos afectuosos.

[MopsusHears]

He plays this on his wonderful Famous Pieces for Harpsichord (Analecta), which appears to be no longer for sale :(

[musikclassik]

C'est chouette de voir cette pièce après l'avoir écouté sur l'album de Luc sur Analekta "œuvres célèbres pour clavecin"

[rencharl]

Merci...

[kukov1274]

Una excelente interpretación cargada de sentimiento....una aportación magnífica a Youtube.

[ducdelaval09]

Qui pourrait m'expliquer ce que signifie

le titre "Baricades Mystérieuses"?

[JupiterIV]

@ducdelaval09

- Could someone please explain the significance of the title "The Mysterious Barricades"?

I think it was Francis Couperin's attempt at romantically naming his works for harpsichord/piano.

- Je pense que c'était la tentative de François Couperin à donner à ses œuvres un titre romantique.

[donwroyer]

@JupiterIV A double entendre referring simultaneously to feminine virginity and harmonic suspensions of

the music, lute figurations are imitated to produce an enigmatic stalemate. Also, young women were isolated from the rest of society in a special building, until they reached a certain age. Couperin always wondered what they did in there. I believe this had something to do with his inspiration.

[frenchiecocorico1]

@JupiterIV Despite the fact your french is nearly perfect, I am surprised by your opinion. Could you tell me how Couperin had given Romantic titles at some of his works when he lived long before this period during which romantism design was not invented yet. Do you know the spelling "Romantic" was created as far by the first musicologists in the late 19° century?

[JupiterIV]

@frenchiecocorico1 Based on my studies in musicology, I have found that the faintest romantic beginnings imaginable were formed in the late 1500's. It constantly, and rather quickly faded in and out of style, until the romantic heyday of the 1800's. Another example of this is Wol. Am. Mozart.

[frenchiecocorico1]

@JupiterIV According to your US musicologic theory, if Romantic period begun in the early 1500's and finished in the late 19 century, could you tell me precisely what were the limits of Renaissance, Baroque or Classical periods? Must these periods be considered as part of Romanticism? Do US musicologists invented a new classification of musical periods with new definitions and new limits for their own use?

[JupiterIV]

@frenchiecocorico1 Hey, I'm just telling you what I've found out, based on my own studies. If you're not alright with them, so be it.

[frenchiecocorico1]

@JupiterIV III- It is important in history to do not any confusion. In the opposite case, one can search if renaissance beginnings weren’t formed as soon as antique roman music, etc...

[frenchiecocorico1]

@JupiterIV II- So this phenomenon couldn’t be assimilate exclusively at the Romantic period because this way to process would constitute a manipulation of history due to the revisionism philosophy.

In the same way, it is impossible to state that François Couperin “attempt at romantically naming his works for harpsichord/piano” when he ignored completly what romanticism would mean and when piano was a non existing instrument.

[frenchiecocorico1]

@JupiterIV I- Personnaly, I think you misunderstood and misassimilated the musicological knowledge your teachers tried to learn you. It is possible that some practices of the romantic period found their roots as soon as the renaissance but they weren’t specific to romanticism (ie. Rubato or tempo fluctuation was an expressive technique used far past the middle age but was not yet defined or described).

[frenchiecocorico1]

@JupiterIV At last, Alas, nobody knows exactely and surely what is the real significance of "les baricades mistérieuses". The most credible explanation is the following. In Couperin's time "les baricades mistérieuses" would referred to the numerous petticoat women wore under their dress. Evidently these "baricades mistérieuses" hid a mysterious and private body part of ladies. Petticoats were so called "baricades mistérieuses" because they formed obstacles against the lover's attempts.

[JupiterIV]

@frenchiecocorico1 Vous êtes vraiment faire beaucoup de bruit pour rien. Ne pensez-vous pas qu'il est temps de mettre ou de se taire?

[frenchiecocorico1]

@JupiterIV Excuse me but this sentence is absolutely incomprehensible in french. It's just a word succession which doesn't make sense.

[JupiterIV]

@frenchiecocorico1 Just like your senseless ramblings. Cheers!

[frenchiecocorico1]

@JupiterIV My "rambling senseless" is certainly less important than your idiotic nonsenses. Now have a look on the opinion that the spanish "paradoxicus" replied your statement long before me. "No creo que en modo alguno, sea una tentativa del romanticismo, si bien, su propia estructura y sobre todo tìtulo sea una enigma" = "In no way I can believe that it could be an attempt of romanticism, although its own structure and above all its title remain an enigma"

[avatarah]

Finally a version which resembles the notes :-)

Wonderful playing on a great instrument, thanks a lot for uploading!

Korneel (harpsichord student)