Herman Cain was politically assasinated by our own GOP. I wanted him in office... how bout we get Allen West (R-Fl) to run. Will I be racist for voting for him?
@marflin3 Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
Personally, I'm not racist, but I will make this statement in hopes that it will clue somebody into the racism of the left. This is an accurate quote: "I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years." Lyndon B. Johnson, Democrat President
Cain isn't too sharp. Did you hear him talking about Libya? What a jackass. The Federal Reserve insider has no chance to win the general election. Cain also supports the continued USA involvement in the internal affairs of other nations. Cain won't even consider a 1% decrease in militaristic spending. That means more dollars sent overseas, more borrowing and some variation of higher taxes to pay for it all.
Youtube: "Herman Cain Libya", its Herman Cain having no clue which country is Libya or what he is supposed to say about it. And does Herman Cain support a border fence or not? Is the fence electric or not? Did he know about a sex suit settlement or not? Does he support a Fed Audit or not? He flip flops a lot, doesn't know the Constitution well. He is not the best choice for President.
I just love Cain. I would vote for him if only I was American. And in my country I'm considered a "wee bit" of a racist because of my views on immigrant crime and the muslim expansion taking place here. Maybe I just like him because he is the “Jimmy Stewart in blackface”... Go figure.
Right on. It's funny that these people are falling for the taqiya of muslim brotherhood, falling right into their strategic goals. The only reason they do it is because they've been indoctrinated by them. They also fall for abrigated verses without bothering to take the time to find out anything about our enemies who have waged jihad against us and call for our destruction. That's why they all cheered when the brotherhood overthrew Mubarak and Qaddafi while the minorities continue to be killed.
The Mexicans are taking our jobs and now the short fat mexican men are taking White women from Whitey and making them mixed breed brown gangbanging babies Whitey race is through in America
Zo this is why you do need to to your research. You are so anti socialism yet you have no idea how we got here. I'll read something for you. "Centralization of credit into a national bank and a monopoly."-- Karl Marx. This is the private Federal Reserve that loans our money into existence. Wake up Zo Herman Cain worked for the Federal Reserve which is nothing more than a credit monopoly and it is the COMMUNIST MANNIFESTO to have a central bank.
Herman Cain...isnt that the bigoted islamiphob who said he would not be confortable with any muslims in his administration and would only appoint them if they first took a 'loyality test' ?
@types10000 If he elects any Muslims then he's supporting the enemies of our country and it would be treason. Obama, the Islamaphilia, has done so much damage to repay the muslim brotherhood for getting him into Harvard and paying for his education, that he's advanced their agenda at alarming rates. Obama needs to be terminated from office immediately.
A large portion of American voters - conservatives in particular - believe that personal morals are a legitimate issue in choosing a candidate. They will decide if sexual harassment is an issue; Mr. Cain doesn't get to make that decision.
YO whats up man. i sent you those quotes where Herman Cain is praising the TARP bailouts and you nver got back?? Whats the deal?? if you forgot here are some of them "Wake up people! Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem." ". The actions by the Treasury are a win-win for the taxpayer. " "In order for these collective actions to work Congress needs to just shut up with its political rhetoric"
Ok, idiot VJ, she said "they" (Republicans) like him (Herman Cain) because THEY think "he's a black man who knows his place". Herman Cain acts like a shuck & jive, Uncle Tom mistral, dancing for his supper with Shirly Temple. He's a pathetic actor, not presidential, and a court jester compared to Constitutional law professor Obama. Cain needs to take his snake oil sales act to the southern U.S., and leave running the country to those who know how to pronounce, "The Republic of Uzbekistan".
@MrSeattleNative Obama is a really bad choice to compare anyone to. How to trust a "law professer" who seals his school transcript and can't even produce a birth certificate just to shut up those who got on that issue. Cain may not be the next best thing but Obama is not even close. Getting campaign contibutions from half of wall street,signing exective orders to pass bills no one wants and showing people he doesn't care what you think if he wants it he gets it. He's a whinny bitch . Next!
@dkolb65 The Republican field is an illiterate freak show of liars, predictably hateful Christians and Hee Haw character actors. The racist, Fox "News" following, tea party lemmings are going to pick the most convincing actor in the primaries, only to go down in flames in the general election. I LOVE watching a sty full of pigs play musical troughs until the last one standing gets eaten like a Christmas ham. Squeel, you Republican bitches!
@MrSeattleNative Really comparing people to pigs getting eaten because of their political choice. Life at you're house must be fun around the holidays. I guess Charles Manson would also be on list of good choices.
@dkolb65 So, with your ignorance of metaphor, I'm assuming that you believe Herman Cain, as he stated in his own words, is not a human being but, actually, black walnut ice cream?
If anyone has read Obama's book then they'd recognize my comment below, is a small slice of what he says about "whites". Also it wasn't arian-nationalist but black-nationalists, like his Friday and Sunday meeting place was a black-nationalist church. I handed out his book to turn the minds of many to the truth about the muslim man named Obama who hates America.
Your a fucking hypocrite Herman Cain plays Race Card everytime he's criticized he's a complete hypocrite he accused Rick Perry of being racist and Cain even called liberals criticizing him is a High Tech Lynching
Condalisa Rice even said Cain is wrong for playing the Race Card and Obama has never played the Race Card he's never called anyone racist give me 1 example when Obama himself ever called someone racist because he never has
@SuperBlackWoman1 Good he should use the Race Card. That is what the Democrats have used for the past 50 years and so it's time he returns the favor. How do you think Obama and Michelle got through school? Michelle is proud to have the race card used to get her through school, per affirmative action. She accused threats on Hussein's life due to his "race", despite the facts of the high black relation to violent crimes committed, I didn't see Bush blaming his race on death threats.
@MrSheniah -Obama has never played the Race Card show me video evidence of Obama himself calling someone racist because he never has but hypocrite Herman Cain calls everyone racist who disagrees with him Cain called Jon Steward racist and Cain accused Rick Perry of being racist Cain also said liberals racist and lynching him
Only Obama Supporters have the played the Race Card but Obama himself has never called anyone racist Obama even criticized Jimmy Carter for calling conservatives racist
@SuperBlackWoman1 You do make a very valid point Obama has never used the race card however that's probably because Obama doesn't have to he has ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, AOL, Bloomberg TV, Current TV, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Huffington Post and The Daily Kos to do it for him. Why call someone a racist when the democrat media complex (mainstream media) is willing and able to do it for you. And Herman Cain isn't playing the race card, the let is being racist toward him.
@AynRandRevolution -You must be insane you said Herman Cain has never played the Race Card when he called Jon Steward racist and Rick Perry racist Herman Cain says he's only being criticized because he's a black man THAT'S PLAYING THE RACE
White or Black every person running for president gets criticized but Herman Cain is to much of a coward to handle criticism that's why he uses the Race Card saying people are trying to High-Tech Lynch him because he's black Herman Cain is Race Baiting
@SuperBlackWoman1 Jon Stewart IS being racist every time he caricatures Herman Cain using a stereotypical 1930's southern black man voice. And Herman Cain never called Rick Perry racist he just said his family should have been quicker in erasing the N word off of a rock on their property (which they really should have been). And the level of hate and animosity coming from the left towards Herman Cain specifically because he is a black conservative is appalling. It is a high tech lynching.
Sharon Bialek is a registered Republican and shes accusing Herman Cain of sexual harassment so you can't blame democrats anymore Herman Cain has been exposed as liar and a fraud
I would never have the courage to face the storm of media scrutiny & personal attacks sure to come and that's why i believe her but you Cain Worshipers would even defend Cain if he raped a 5 year old girl
@types10000 Maybe so but his impersonation does sound remarkably similar to the racist caricatures of black men in many old films and comedic acts. All I'm saying is that racism is wrong regardless of what side of the political isle it comes from. And Herman Cain has faced very viscous, racist, vulgar, and slanderous remarks all of which are coming from the left.
"And Herman Cain has faced very viscous, racist, vulgar, and slanderous remarks all of which are coming from the left. "
- i dont doubt this, however the fact is that conservatives are generally more racist than liberals and Herman Cain is playing the race card quite often whilst Obama pretty much abstained completely.
@types10000 That's really not true in the least. it was republican president Eisehower that sent in the national Gaurd to move democrat George Wallace out of the way so schools could be integrated. It was Democrat Bull Connor who sicked dogs and fire hoses on MLK and allowed a mom to beat up the freedom riders. Nixon desegregated more schools in one year that the Johnson and Kennedy administration did in 16 years. Liberals say they're for minorities but when it counts they're nowhere to be found
your talking about isolated instances of historical events (likely misinformation you've picked-out from this channel)
i however am talking about the parties as they currently are and currently conservatives are disproportionally more racist than the general population.
@types10000 Actually they're not misinformed they're 100% accurate. This idea that conservatives are more racist than liberals is a lie perpetuated by the main stream media. Conservatives believe in individual rights not rights because you're part of a certain group. that means that the majority cannot infringe the rights of the minority and also that the minority cannot infringe upon the rights of the majority. The smallest minority on earth is the individual.
@types10000 you can look up the events for yourself if you don't believe me that they're accurate I challenge you to provide a link saying otherwise. As I said before the idea that conservatives are more racist than liberals is a lie perpetuated by the main stream media (you know abc, cbs, cnn, nbc, msnbc, pbs, npr, bloomberg tv, current tv, the washington times, the new york times, huff po, just because a bunch of agenda driven journalists repeat it a bunch of times doesn't make it true.
"you can look up the events for yourself if you don't believe me"
- as i already pointed-out the events are irrelevant:
"i however am talking about the parties as they currently are and currently conservatives are disproportionally more racist than the general population"
- no, that has nothing to do with what it means to be conservative (you seem to have conflated it with libertarianism)
conservative:'a political and social philosophy that promotes the maintenance of traditional institutions and supports, at the most, minimal and gradual change in society
Libertarian: 'the political philosophy that holds individual liberty as the basic moral principle of society'
@types10000 Technically that is correct however the vast majority of conservatives today are Classical Liberals (if you can get your head around that one). That are trying to maintain the individual rights granted by the constitution and the bill of rights.
"Technically that is correct however the vast majority of conservatives today are Classical Liberals"
- again, this is completely irrelevant to what the movements are actually about, it's something your projecting onto it and irrespective of whether it's based on a faulty deduction or ad populum fallacy, it's still incorrect.
@types10000 Its completely relevant the conservative movement, the tea party movement and the libertarian movement (which all overlap each other) all stand for small government and individual rights. I am proud to be a part of all three movements. you saying its incorrect or irrelevant doesn't make it so.
"ts completely relevant the conservative movement, the tea party movement"
- incorrect, it has no relevance to the conservative movement, it's something you've inferred onto it based on an ad populum fallacy which is inturn based on a set of ideals you've asserted to be held by the bulk of conservatives.
The statement you've made is incorrect, no mater how you look at it.
"Its completely relevant the conservative movement, the tea party movement and the libertarian movement (which all overlap each other) all stand for small government and individual rights"
yes, conservatives can be libertarian however that has nothing to do with them being conservative - they are concerned with separate things.
"you saying its incorrect or irrelevant doesn't make it so. "
- no English language is what has debunked your claims, refer to definitions.
- I provided evidence that conservatives are more racist than the general populous
- You responded by posting acts of racism that allege were committed by liberals.
Your argument fails because it doesnt address my point ie. who was more racist in the past has no bearing on my statement which refers to the here-and-now.
2). you asserted that "Conservatives believe in individual rights...the majority cannot infringe the rights of the minority..."
this statement is flat-out wrong: not only does this have nothing to do with conservatism (a political and social philosophy that promotes the maintenance of traditional institutions and supports, at the most, minimal and gradual change in society) but the things you have stated ARE ALREADY PROTECTED by the constitution
@types10000 You have provided no evidence that republicans are more racist than democrats all you did was claim that republicans are more racist than democrats. and if you want modern day examples look at the current black panther party. la raza, liberal radio host tom joyner saying on air that blacks should vote or obama just because hes black. how about the scores of liberals who are claiming both herman cain and barack obama aren't authentically black. how about the clarence thomas hearings
"You have provided no evidence that republicans are more racist than democrats"
- incorrect, my statements were in respect to conservatives (not republicans specifically), i ahve already provided evidence but i think this but i think the following one does it more aptly (as it also shows how they also oppose civil rights )
@types10000 Wow leftist professors claiming their opponents are racist that study is totally believable because a professor would never lie for his ideology. Oh wait they do that all the time. Academics are the most dishonest group of people in the country. after journalists and politicians of course. It no secret that academia is run almost entirely by the left. What the left calls civil rights are nothing more than entitlements. More republicans voted for REAL civil rights than democrats.
"Wow leftist professors claiming their opponents are racist that study is totally believable because a professor would never lie for his ideology. "
- this is an argument from ignorance claim (logical fallacy) because you have no actual argument against the data you instead simply assert it's incorrect without any evidence at all. Sad really.
i've provided evidence for claim, how about you do the same.
@types10000 Oh there is plenty of evidence. It is very common for professors to do things to manipulate data such as changing the definitions of words to get the data they want. also using biased survey questions is another common thing done. Also some of the things they consider "racist" are things like opposing affirmative action or cutting funding things like low income housing. Also your link doesn't even work so I have no way of even seeing the study you showed.
"Oh there is plenty of evidence. It is very common for professors to do things to manipulate data such as changing the definitions of words to get the data they want."
- notice how you start by claiming there is evidence, then make an assertion AND FAIL TO PRODUCE ANY EVIDENCE.
"also using biased survey questions is another common thing done"
- another assertion. (which even if true, would not indicate the questions of the study were biased)
"Also some of the things they consider 'racist' are things like opposing affirmative action or cutting funding things like low income housing"
- the latter yes, the former no. Last time i checked suppressing the rights of specific ethnic groups because the institution of said rights would cause loss of profit is a racist practice. The fact they're doing it because it's 'cost effective' is beside the point.
@AynRandRevolution Ayn Rand was a moron who thought she could survive on her own genius but when cancer threatened to wipe out the little bit of wealth she managed to put away for her old age she changed her name and applied for welfare benefits. The queen of the Libertarians, a stupid bitch preaching to the ignorant. She had a modicum of success on her own but like other so called self made successes, when she failed and she turned to the state to keep her ass off the street.
@logtype47 Ayn Rand did not change her name to collect medicare she changed her name back to her maiden name after her husband died there's nothing wrong with that. And why shouldn't she have used medicare She payed into it didn't she. Of course she advocated getting rid of it but as long as the state makes you pay for it you mine as well use it. And she had a lot of success. She is still a best selling author 50 years later. I love how much you self righteous parasites hate Ayn Rand.
@AynRandRevolution You do realize that you've made the case for all U.S. citizens, rich or poor to join in and collect welfare? How amusing.
If Ayn Rand was as wealthy as you claim, why didn't she opt for a private free market insurance plan like Blue Cross Blue Shield. Instead she went scrambling for RED HAMMER RED SICKLE, that inferior socialized government welfare program known as Medicare. What a joke.
@logtype47 How is that a case for collective welfare? Ayn Rand used medicare because she had paid into it. And the only reason she had paid into it is because you are FORCED BY LAW to pay into it. if you don't believe me take a look at your last paystub medicare is deducted automatically you don't have a choice.
She also died because of it so i guess you are half right medicare and other government welfare programs are definitely inferior.
@AynRandRevolution Are you dense? Medicare and social security are collective welfare programs. Again, you are making the case for every U.S. citizen to take advantage of social welfare.
Corporations are also forced by law to pay taxes. Under your logic, subsidies to major corporations are perfectly justified because the government forcibly took their money through taxes.
@logtype47 People shouldn't be forced to pay into social welfare programs in the first place but as long as they are it makes no sense not to use them. that's like not eating food in your fridge just because you don't like it You still paid for you mine as well eat it. And No corporations shouldn't be subsidized OR taxed. Taxes on corporations are double taxes. When a corporation distributes dividends to its shareholders the shareholders pay taxes on it. why do liberals hate corporations so much
@AynRandRevolution Really - no social programs. So does that mean to hell grandma when she gets old. No healthcare for her? Privatize primary education too? What should we pay taxes for?
As for the vets who get TRICARE(Another WELFARE program) - to hell with them also?
Respond to this video... Grandma should be saving for the future with something called a personal retirement account. Also there is this little thing called FAMILY and PRIVATE CHARITY. The public education system in the US is terrible the best thing that could be done would be for vouchers to be given so that parents could decide which school they want their child to go to. After awhile the bad schools would be closed down.
"Grandma should be saving for the future with something called a personal retirement account"
- my objections to this are exactly the same for the case study i provided, you want to magically introduce a system that nations more economically stable than your own have been unable to do whilst simultaneously rejecting a system that is observed to work.
@types10000 Yes family and private charity Its worked in the US for years well up until the 60's when Johnson started introducing all kinds of failed social welfare policies. And grandma should have a responsibility to save for her own future. maybe grandma doesn't retire at 65 maybe she works till shes 68. The US Constitution says it is the legitimate purpose of government to promote for the GENERAL welfare giving handouts to the elderly would be SPECIFIC welfare.
"Yes family and private charity Its worked in the US for years"
- it currently works for some people with some things some of the time, it's effectiveness is spotty at best and god only knows what it would be like with the influx your purposal would put on it.
" And grandma should have a responsibility to save for her own"
- i havnt brought up any grandma example, the test case i used was Jimmy (the child of a low-income family) and so far you've failed to address it
@types10000 Oh yeah someone else I was arguing with was asking what happens to grandma anyways I have answers what happens to jimmy he receives medical care that federal law requires hospitals to give him if he asks for it. And he will receive a bill that he will probably have to pay off in installments. Now I don't know if you know this but the US citizens give more money to charity than EVERY OTHER COUNTRY COMBINED so there is defiantly plenty of private charities that could help jimmy.
"I have answers what happens to jimmy he receives medical care that federal law..."
- i already pointed-out the flaw with this:
"actually if im not mistaken your current laws only prevent someone being refused treatment in circumstances of immediate risk, if the person in question is experiencing a progress illness then they're basically screwed until it gets worse (often cant be fixed once this occurs)"
@types10000 Well clearly you don't know American law very well. A person cannot be refused medical care regardless of ability to pay for any reason (the only exception be cosmetic procedures). just because Jimmy's parents are to lazy or incompetent to earn enough money to buy insurance does not make it societies problem.
"Well clearly you don't know American law very well. A person cannot be refused medical care regardless of ability to pay for any reason"
"just because Jimmy's parents are to lazy or incompetent..."
- and it's this line of reasoning that has landed your country in the healthcare crisis your in, you screw over the people that form the basis of your economy
"Well clearly you don't know American law very well"
- incorrect, one of the major things that has caused your current system to fail is that you do not treat people until their problems get worse. ie. elective surgeries that fix problems before they become permanent and life threatening.
"US citizens give more money to charity than EVERY OTHER COUNTRY COMBINED so there is defiantly plenty of private charities that could help jimmy."
- as i already point-out:
"it currently works for some people with some things some of the time, it's effectiveness is spotty at best and god only knows what it would be like with the influx your purposal would put on it"
@types10000 about half of the Americans without healthcare have a household income of 60,000 or more so they can afford healthcare they just choose to spend their money on other thing (the libs always leave that part out) How is it moral for the federal government to take money from one group of people and give it to another. Someones (supposed) need is not a mortgage on another life or productivity.
"about half of the Americans without healthcare have a household income of 60,000 or more so they can afford healthcare"
The average is a crappy indicator of central tendency because it is confounded by outliers from the incredibly rich. The overall median personal income for all individuals over the age of 18 is only $24,062.
Also THE MINIMUM WAGE ie. income of people who form the basis of your economy was only $7.25 /hour in 2009 (barely above the poverty line)
So? Personal income is deceptive too, because many people with low personal income are people primarily supported by someone else, for example, a teenager working part-time while living his parents, or a house-wife working part time who is primarily supported by her husband. And that statistic may take into account those with no income because they are RETIRED or completely supported by their husbands/family.
"So? Personal income is deceptive too, because many people with low personal income are people primarily supported by someone else..."
- well then by all means demonstrate this by providing evidence for your assertion:"about half of the Americans without healthcare have a household income of 60,000 or more so they can afford healthcare"
@AynRandRevolution I'm with you pal. America beats out the world in the charity arena which means there is plenty of money out there for 50 million uninsured Americans who can get plenty of healthcare from family, friends and churches.
@teapartyxpress if the federal government would allow people to buy insurance across state lines and stop devaluing the US dollar the the number of uninsured Americans would be much smaller. actually about half of the Americans without healthcare have a household income of 60,000 or more so they can afford healthcare they just choose not to buy it (the libs always leave that part out)
@logtype47 As for our vets. The military is a special case. Because unlike your other examples the military IS a legitimate purpose of government as spelled out in the US constitution. It is legitimate for the government to take care of veterans injured in the line of duty (same with police officers another legitimate purpose of government. TRICARE is not a welfare program though. It is an insurance company contracted by the federal government for the purpose of taking care of soldiers.
@AynRandRevolution The Constitution does not mention, nor require TRICARE, or G.I. Bill, ie) military pensions, government home loans, subsidized education, etc.
Who determines what is and isn't a legitimate reason to provide welfare benefits?
@logtype47 TRICARE (which is a private insurance company not run by the government) and Military Pensions are recruitment tools. In order to have a military you need to recruit soldiers which means you have have to make it work their while to join. As for government home loans I agree that's bullshit. The general welfare clause determines what is legitimate if something benefits all of us generally it is legitimate, since soldiers protect ALL of us it is legitimate to use those recruitment tools
@AynRandRevolution A recruitment tool...that's your excuse for US military socialism. How pathetic. TRICARE is NOT a private under any stretch of the imagination. It is however an "entitlement" program funded by "taxpayer" dollars. TRICARE is run by the United States Department of Defense.
Where the hell did you read that TRICARE was private?
@logtype47 If TRICARE is taxpayer funded like you said it is, well then we should privatize it too. Give vets the freedom to choose their own healthcare and invest their retirement pensions on Wall Street. Life is a gamble. Let the free-market sort out their fate.
@teapartyxpress I commend you for your honesty. Finally a crazed conservo-freak who holds steadfast to free-market principles across the board. You actually said privatize military healthcare and pensions. Who the fuck says shit like that. I tip my hat to you.
@logtype47 Look at Ron Paul's campaign manager who died because he had $400,000 dollars in medical debt and didn't have health insurance. He should have done a better job shopping his medical affliction on the free market to churches and other charities. What faith based charity would turn down the chance to help this guy pay his bills.
@logtype47 If grandma doesnt have any friends and family who will help pay her healthcare, she's more than welcomed to head over to her local church down the block and they will pay for her medications and healthcare. Done deal. I just answered you question sherlock smarty pants.
@AynRandRevolution Special case my butt. Tricare is socialism. Military should get paid just like any other job. They need to buy healthcare like everybody else. When they leave the army the government is no longer responsible for taking care of then because thats just nanny state. If a vet gets injured, thats on them. They knew going in that there was a chance of injury. They are responsible, not the government. The constitution does not state we have to provide health care for vets.
Also, the what distinguishes a non-nanny state is that it says "You can do what you want, you just have to pay for the consequences." not "You can do what we want, you just have to pay for the consequences." Allowing someone to do what THEY want and letting them pay for the negative consequences is freedom. Imploring someone to do what YOU want (join your army), and then refusing to pay for the negative consequences is called being a dick.
@logtype47 You have to understand there is a hidden tax that is seldom talked about and mostly effects the poor. The inflation tax. Whenever a country prints money it doesn't have money becomes less valuable. If you really cared about the elderly and the poor you wouldn't advocate for things like medicare for the very practical reason that the programs are pushing the US into debt. If the US dollar hadn't been so devalued the vast majority of people would be able to afford medical care.
"If you really cared about the elderly and the poor you wouldn't advocate for things like medicare for the very practical"
- no, your multiple international wars and constant deregulation of the market over the last 20+ years are what has pushed you into debt.
- medicare is a tried and tested government run system that correlates with better healthcare and healthcare standards on every test ever conducted. It's something the bulk of firstworld already has.
@types10000 Woah now who said I was for the wars. The war in Iraq was never justified and the war in Afghanistan was only justified for the first month or so. After we toppled the Taliban we should have come home. And medicare is does not correlate with better healthcare standards. Out of all insurance programs medicare has the highest rate of fraud. And the market hasn't been deregulated Bush put in FAR more regulations than he got rid of. And lets be honest here you were already a liberal.
- i never said you were, but the fact your trying deflect blame for debt crisis onto public services instead of the more blatant causes is very disingenuous. Especially given the fact that said services are demonstrated to work in other nations.
"And medicare is does not correlate with better healthcare standards"
- medicare is one implementation of government healthcare and is directly analogous to the systems that correlate with better healthcare + healthcare standards on every test ever conducted.
@types10000 Oh you're an AUSSIE tell me. If the healthcare system in the US is so horrible and unfair then why do members of your parliament fly over to the US when they need heart surgeries and cancer treatments? Also I have no idea where you are getting your information from because it was government sponsored (and regulated) entities Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac If it wasn't for CRA there never would have been a Fannie and Freddie to push bad loans. Its the governments fault not the free market
"Oh you're an AUSSIE tell me. If the healthcare system in the US is so horrible and unfair then why do members of your parliament fly over to the US when they need heart surgeries and cancer treatments?"
- care to cite one? or are referring to an isolated instance where a world renoued specialist just happened to be in the US?
"If the US dollar hadn't been so devalued the vast majority of people would be able to afford..."
- O'rly?
Test Case:
Jimmy is a 12 year-old in a low income family, Jimmy's parents arnt particularly good at planning and have decided to save money by by not buying healthcare. What happens to Jimmy if he becomes seriously ill?
it doesnt have to be low income families either, it could be any situation in which the family experiences financial hardship.
@types10000 Well what will happen is Jimmy will go to the doctor and he will receive medical care because federal laws states that a doctor cannot refuse to provide medical care. His parents will receive a bill which they may have to pay off in installments. Now if the cost of the dollar hadn't been devalued the service he received wouldn't be as expensive so they would be able to pay off their debt much faster. If jimmy's illness is REALLY bad Jimmy's parents can seek private charity.
"Well what will happen is Jimmy will go to the doctor and he will receive medical care because federal laws states that a doctor cannot refuse to provide medical care"
- actually if im not mistaken your current laws only prevent someone being refused treatment in circumstances of immediate risk, if the person in question is experiencing a progress illness then they're basically screwed until it gets worse (often cant be fixed once this occurs)
"Now if the cost of the dollar hadn't been devalued the service he received wouldn't be as expensive..."
again:
your asserting that you can magically do something that nations more economically stable than your own have been unable to do:
"make it so low-income individuals/families are able to plan/pay for the service and nobody experiences financial hardship that makes them unable to afford it."
a). institute a tried-and-tested government run system that the bulk of the first world already has
b). Do something that societies more economically stable than your own have been unable to do ie. make it so low-income individuals/families are able to plan/pay for the service and nobody experiences financial hardship that makes them unable to afford it.
Unless you have magical powers then [b] is going to make your economy look like Iraq.
@types10000 Just because medicare is tried and tested doesn't mean its good. In all likely hood it would be much cheaper to give doctors a tax credit if they provide free care (so long as they document it). Where do you get this Idea that poor people are unable to pay off debts. Poor people have the ability to pay off debt it just takes them a little longer why should their debt fall on society? The reason insurance is so expensive is because the market is so regulated.
@types10000 Poor people should have the right to push their own misfortunes onto the rest of society. And I don't know what studies you're looking at because medicare has the highest rate of fraud out of all insurance options People are more likely to undergo unnecessary and sometimes painful tests if their on a medicare plan versus if they are on a private healthcare plan or just pay out of pocket.
"Poor people should'nt have the right to push their own misfortunes onto the..."
- poor people arnt, the government offers healthcare as a service just like police
" And I don't know what studies you're looking at because medicare has the highest rate of fraud out of all insurance options"
- as i pointed-out government run healthcare correlates with better healthcare and healthcare standards on every study ever conducted an example being the WHO 2008 health report.
"In all likely hood it would be much cheaper to give doctors a tax credit if they provide free care (so long ..."
- This is simply a patch that you hope will fix an inherit failure of your system. And it's as much an assertion as your insinuation that mooching of relatives / charities will help
"The reason insurance is so expensive is because the market is so regulated."
- incorrect, just look at the bulk of nations who have implemented government run healthcare.
@types10000 I have seem the bulk of nations that have implemented government run healthcare. When their leaders get seriously ill they fly to the US to receive care.
"I have seem the bulk of nations that have implemented government run healthcare. When their leaders get seriously ill they fly to the US to receive care."
- again, care to back that up with evidence. It's clearly what you want to believe, but it's not consistent with reality.
"that means that the majority cannot infringe the rights of the minority"
- this is something that is already ensured by your constitution and is the very reason the founding fathers established a republic and not a democracy. It has nothing to do with being conservative.
@SuperBlackWoman1 Jon Stewart is a racist! Obama used the race card to get elected. So, a conservative is not allowed to call liberals racist, but a liberal can call a conservative racist? That is hypocritical! Herman Cain is no coward, only someone who has just started watching the GOP candidates would say such a dumb thing. Cain only pointed out that using the stereo typical "Uncle Tom" voice was a racist thing to do & he is right! Criticize the man on his policies not his RACE!
- no, Obama was elected because his opposition was senile and his oppositions vice was mentally handicapped.
"So, a conservative is not allowed to call liberals racist"
- oh no, there's definitely some racist liberals out there, but the fact is the conservative camps are just so much more racist and fairly open about it too.
@BondFreek -Obama has never played the Race Card show me video evidence of Obama himself calling someone racist because he never has but hypocrite Herman Cain calls everyone racist who disagrees with him Cain called Jon Steward racist and Cain accused Rick Perry of being racist Cain also said liberals racist and lynching him
Only Obama Supporters have the played the Race Card but Obama himself has never called anyone racist Obama even criticized Jimmy Carter for calling conservatives racist
@SuperBlackWoman1 You are no "Super Black Woman"! You are an ignorant Woman. I'm not even sure that you're not being paid by the Democrats or Cain's competitors to say such dumb hateful things.
@AynRandRevolution Obama never out right used the race car on national TV but he hired people to play the race card to scare people into voting for him. Don't you remember the whole "If you don't vote for Obama you’re a racist" campaign? Or the blasphemous way he had his posters painted so that his "O" would be a halo?
@types10000 You must be a reporter for MSNBC, because you just took my words out of context & twisted them to suit your need to be a jerk. There was a racist campaign! Several of Obama supporters with official Obama campaign credentials called me a racist because I was not going to vote for him. My friends in other states told me that they too were told to vote for Obama or be labeled a racist. It was also reported in several news articles. So don't tell me it was "imaginary"!!!!
That Harriet Tubman quote rocks.
WCScum 18 hours ago
Herman Cain was politically assasinated by our own GOP. I wanted him in office... how bout we get Allen West (R-Fl) to run. Will I be racist for voting for him?
marflin3 2 weeks ago
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@marflin3 Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
marionetemanJ 2 weeks ago
wow a homosexual uncle tom
sillycandie007 3 weeks ago
I'm still on the Cain Train Zo. He was our best choice for a non-career polictican like Romney or Paul. HOOYAH!!!
jrc99us 2 months ago
Man your spot on! Rush limbaugh's Bo Snerdly has some competition as the official Obama Critisizer! Keep up the good work!
WinstonAH 2 months ago
somebody jumped on the wrong train a little early.
AVINATION 3 months ago
SORRY MAN...I DONT THINK HE IS GONNA MAKE IT!!!
gelberd 3 months ago
@uheardme1stime
Oh wait, I take that back. I read your profile and clearly you're a liberal troll.
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Let me guess, you're voting for Ron Paul?
ArrogantAmerican333 3 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Zoe I agree with everything you said but I am not comforttable with Cain because he supported TARP; I'm for Bachmann.
htales 3 months ago
9-9-9 then Fairtax, this only way to go.
Lets Raise some Cain people.
CrusaderAmerica 3 months ago
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@CrusaderAmerica
"9-9-9 then Fairtax, this only way to go."
- if sarah palin invented a taxation system this is what it would be
"Lets Raise some Cain people"
- WTF does this even mean????
types10000 3 months ago
Personally, I'm not racist, but I will make this statement in hopes that it will clue somebody into the racism of the left. This is an accurate quote: "I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years." Lyndon B. Johnson, Democrat President
ReachDeep1 3 months ago 6
Perhaps Zo "the hero worshiper" is crying into a pillow since his hero, Herman Cain made a complete ass of himself.
logtype47 3 months ago
Cain isn't too sharp. Did you hear him talking about Libya? What a jackass. The Federal Reserve insider has no chance to win the general election. Cain also supports the continued USA involvement in the internal affairs of other nations. Cain won't even consider a 1% decrease in militaristic spending. That means more dollars sent overseas, more borrowing and some variation of higher taxes to pay for it all.
tjames72y 3 months ago 2
Wonder where Zo is? No more Herman Cain support vids Bro.
logtype47 3 months ago
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Youtube: "Herman Cain Libya", its Herman Cain having no clue which country is Libya or what he is supposed to say about it. And does Herman Cain support a border fence or not? Is the fence electric or not? Did he know about a sex suit settlement or not? Does he support a Fed Audit or not? He flip flops a lot, doesn't know the Constitution well. He is not the best choice for President.
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ThePelicans44 3 months ago
I say, "Beat Obama with a Cain in 2012!"
daveassanowicz 3 months ago
I just love Cain. I would vote for him if only I was American. And in my country I'm considered a "wee bit" of a racist because of my views on immigrant crime and the muslim expansion taking place here. Maybe I just like him because he is the “Jimmy Stewart in blackface”... Go figure.
Rukaphella 3 months ago
More reaching by Alonzo...Im surprised that his arms arent six feet long.
magicwhiteguys 3 months ago
Awesome video. Keep the truth coming.
fallout101s 3 months ago
Maybe if the oval office was an oval commode.
PissedOffChurchLady 3 months ago
nice job
sugarmaple2233 3 months ago
It's amazing that many of this guys vlogs concern race. Just a thought
vidfann 3 months ago
demarcates the party of the kkk and jim crow(and Marxist) hey liberals hows it feel not being able to play the racist card now bitches
TheNingishzida 3 months ago
Right on. It's funny that these people are falling for the taqiya of muslim brotherhood, falling right into their strategic goals. The only reason they do it is because they've been indoctrinated by them. They also fall for abrigated verses without bothering to take the time to find out anything about our enemies who have waged jihad against us and call for our destruction. That's why they all cheered when the brotherhood overthrew Mubarak and Qaddafi while the minorities continue to be killed.
MrSheniah 3 months ago
The Mexicans are taking our jobs and now the short fat mexican men are taking White women from Whitey and making them mixed breed brown gangbanging babies Whitey race is through in America
lardtino 3 months ago
Zo this is why you do need to to your research. You are so anti socialism yet you have no idea how we got here. I'll read something for you. "Centralization of credit into a national bank and a monopoly."-- Karl Marx. This is the private Federal Reserve that loans our money into existence. Wake up Zo Herman Cain worked for the Federal Reserve which is nothing more than a credit monopoly and it is the COMMUNIST MANNIFESTO to have a central bank.
jneil2007 3 months ago
Herman Cain...isnt that the bigoted islamiphob who said he would not be confortable with any muslims in his administration and would only appoint them if they first took a 'loyality test' ?
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 If he elects any Muslims then he's supporting the enemies of our country and it would be treason. Obama, the Islamaphilia, has done so much damage to repay the muslim brotherhood for getting him into Harvard and paying for his education, that he's advanced their agenda at alarming rates. Obama needs to be terminated from office immediately.
MrSheniah 3 months ago
@MrSheniah
"If he elects any Muslims then he's supporting the enemies of our country and it would be treason"
- incorrect, not all Muslims are the enemy of America (also i'm from Australia)
"Obama, the Islamaphilia, has done so much damage to repay the muslim brotherhood for getting him into Harvard and paying "
- baseless assertion made without any evidence.
types10000 3 months ago
A large portion of American voters - conservatives in particular - believe that personal morals are a legitimate issue in choosing a candidate. They will decide if sexual harassment is an issue; Mr. Cain doesn't get to make that decision.
Jazzycat47 3 months ago
YEEEEEAAAAH!!!!!!!!
Danuch113ny 3 months ago
YO whats up man. i sent you those quotes where Herman Cain is praising the TARP bailouts and you nver got back?? Whats the deal?? if you forgot here are some of them "Wake up people! Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem." ". The actions by the Treasury are a win-win for the taxpayer. " "In order for these collective actions to work Congress needs to just shut up with its political rhetoric"
gelberd 3 months ago
Shuckin' and Jivin' for the white folks.
rocky19421 3 months ago
Herman Cain is slipping under pressure.
GhostOfAStranger1 3 months ago
Ok, idiot VJ, she said "they" (Republicans) like him (Herman Cain) because THEY think "he's a black man who knows his place". Herman Cain acts like a shuck & jive, Uncle Tom mistral, dancing for his supper with Shirly Temple. He's a pathetic actor, not presidential, and a court jester compared to Constitutional law professor Obama. Cain needs to take his snake oil sales act to the southern U.S., and leave running the country to those who know how to pronounce, "The Republic of Uzbekistan".
MrSeattleNative 3 months ago
@MrSeattleNative Obama is a really bad choice to compare anyone to. How to trust a "law professer" who seals his school transcript and can't even produce a birth certificate just to shut up those who got on that issue. Cain may not be the next best thing but Obama is not even close. Getting campaign contibutions from half of wall street,signing exective orders to pass bills no one wants and showing people he doesn't care what you think if he wants it he gets it. He's a whinny bitch . Next!
dkolb65 3 months ago
@dkolb65 The Republican field is an illiterate freak show of liars, predictably hateful Christians and Hee Haw character actors. The racist, Fox "News" following, tea party lemmings are going to pick the most convincing actor in the primaries, only to go down in flames in the general election. I LOVE watching a sty full of pigs play musical troughs until the last one standing gets eaten like a Christmas ham. Squeel, you Republican bitches!
MrSeattleNative 3 months ago
@MrSeattleNative Really comparing people to pigs getting eaten because of their political choice. Life at you're house must be fun around the holidays. I guess Charles Manson would also be on list of good choices.
dkolb65 3 months ago
@dkolb65 So, with your ignorance of metaphor, I'm assuming that you believe Herman Cain, as he stated in his own words, is not a human being but, actually, black walnut ice cream?
MrSeattleNative 3 months ago
damn... PJTV for the win.
shippyshiphead 3 months ago
If anyone has read Obama's book then they'd recognize my comment below, is a small slice of what he says about "whites". Also it wasn't arian-nationalist but black-nationalists, like his Friday and Sunday meeting place was a black-nationalist church. I handed out his book to turn the minds of many to the truth about the muslim man named Obama who hates America.
MrSheniah 3 months ago
@MrSheniah HERMAN CAIN ALWAYS PLAYS RACE CARD
Your a fucking hypocrite Herman Cain plays Race Card everytime he's criticized he's a complete hypocrite he accused Rick Perry of being racist and Cain even called liberals criticizing him is a High Tech Lynching
Condalisa Rice even said Cain is wrong for playing the Race Card and Obama has never played the Race Card he's never called anyone racist give me 1 example when Obama himself ever called someone racist because he never has
SuperBlackWoman1 3 months ago
@SuperBlackWoman1 Good he should use the Race Card. That is what the Democrats have used for the past 50 years and so it's time he returns the favor. How do you think Obama and Michelle got through school? Michelle is proud to have the race card used to get her through school, per affirmative action. She accused threats on Hussein's life due to his "race", despite the facts of the high black relation to violent crimes committed, I didn't see Bush blaming his race on death threats.
MrSheniah 3 months ago
@MrSheniah -Obama has never played the Race Card show me video evidence of Obama himself calling someone racist because he never has but hypocrite Herman Cain calls everyone racist who disagrees with him Cain called Jon Steward racist and Cain accused Rick Perry of being racist Cain also said liberals racist and lynching him
Only Obama Supporters have the played the Race Card but Obama himself has never called anyone racist Obama even criticized Jimmy Carter for calling conservatives racist
SuperBlackWoman1 3 months ago
@SuperBlackWoman1 You do make a very valid point Obama has never used the race card however that's probably because Obama doesn't have to he has ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, AOL, Bloomberg TV, Current TV, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Huffington Post and The Daily Kos to do it for him. Why call someone a racist when the democrat media complex (mainstream media) is willing and able to do it for you. And Herman Cain isn't playing the race card, the let is being racist toward him.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution -You must be insane you said Herman Cain has never played the Race Card when he called Jon Steward racist and Rick Perry racist Herman Cain says he's only being criticized because he's a black man THAT'S PLAYING THE RACE
White or Black every person running for president gets criticized but Herman Cain is to much of a coward to handle criticism that's why he uses the Race Card saying people are trying to High-Tech Lynch him because he's black Herman Cain is Race Baiting
SuperBlackWoman1 3 months ago
@SuperBlackWoman1 Jon Stewart IS being racist every time he caricatures Herman Cain using a stereotypical 1930's southern black man voice. And Herman Cain never called Rick Perry racist he just said his family should have been quicker in erasing the N word off of a rock on their property (which they really should have been). And the level of hate and animosity coming from the left towards Herman Cain specifically because he is a black conservative is appalling. It is a high tech lynching.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
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@AynRandRevolution 4 different women are more credible than 1 Cain.
Sharon Bialek is a registered Republican and shes accusing Herman Cain of sexual harassment so you can't blame democrats anymore Herman Cain has been exposed as liar and a fraud
I would never have the courage to face the storm of media scrutiny & personal attacks sure to come and that's why i believe her but you Cain Worshipers would even defend Cain if he raped a 5 year old girl
SuperBlackWoman1 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Jon Stewart IS being racist every time he caricatures Herman Cain using a stereotypical 1930's southern black man voice"
- i would hardly call an impersonation of to be racist, the 'stereotypical 1930s southern black man' is something your projecting onto it.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Maybe so but his impersonation does sound remarkably similar to the racist caricatures of black men in many old films and comedic acts. All I'm saying is that racism is wrong regardless of what side of the political isle it comes from. And Herman Cain has faced very viscous, racist, vulgar, and slanderous remarks all of which are coming from the left.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"And Herman Cain has faced very viscous, racist, vulgar, and slanderous remarks all of which are coming from the left. "
- i dont doubt this, however the fact is that conservatives are generally more racist than liberals and Herman Cain is playing the race card quite often whilst Obama pretty much abstained completely.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 That's really not true in the least. it was republican president Eisehower that sent in the national Gaurd to move democrat George Wallace out of the way so schools could be integrated. It was Democrat Bull Connor who sicked dogs and fire hoses on MLK and allowed a mom to beat up the freedom riders. Nixon desegregated more schools in one year that the Johnson and Kennedy administration did in 16 years. Liberals say they're for minorities but when it counts they're nowhere to be found
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution It was Democrat Bull Connor who sicked dogs and fire hoses on MLK and allowed a MOB to beat up the freedom riders.
for some reason I can't type today.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
your talking about isolated instances of historical events (likely misinformation you've picked-out from this channel)
i however am talking about the parties as they currently are and currently conservatives are disproportionally more racist than the general population.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Actually they're not misinformed they're 100% accurate. This idea that conservatives are more racist than liberals is a lie perpetuated by the main stream media. Conservatives believe in individual rights not rights because you're part of a certain group. that means that the majority cannot infringe the rights of the minority and also that the minority cannot infringe upon the rights of the majority. The smallest minority on earth is the individual.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Actually they're not misinformed they're 100% accurate"
- if you were misinformed how could you tell? in anycase this is beside the point, i am talking about the parties as they exist now.
Currently conservatives are disproportionalty more racist than the general populous.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 you can look up the events for yourself if you don't believe me that they're accurate I challenge you to provide a link saying otherwise. As I said before the idea that conservatives are more racist than liberals is a lie perpetuated by the main stream media (you know abc, cbs, cnn, nbc, msnbc, pbs, npr, bloomberg tv, current tv, the washington times, the new york times, huff po, just because a bunch of agenda driven journalists repeat it a bunch of times doesn't make it true.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
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@AynRandRevolution
"you can look up the events for yourself if you don't believe me"
- as i already pointed-out the events are irrelevant:
"i however am talking about the parties as they currently are and currently conservatives are disproportionally more racist than the general population"
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"As I said before the idea that conservatives are more racist..."
incorrect:
- all you did was point to racist actions that (you allege) were committed by liberals in the past.
- no part of that addresses my evidence regarding conservatives (modern) being more racist than the general population.
"just because a bunch of agenda driven..."
- no, the fact a bunch independent studies all reveal it and you have no response but to assert a conspiracy does
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Conservatives believe in individual rights.."
- no, that has nothing to do with what it means to be conservative (you seem to have conflated it with libertarianism)
conservative:'a political and social philosophy that promotes the maintenance of traditional institutions and supports, at the most, minimal and gradual change in society
Libertarian: 'the political philosophy that holds individual liberty as the basic moral principle of society'
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Technically that is correct however the vast majority of conservatives today are Classical Liberals (if you can get your head around that one). That are trying to maintain the individual rights granted by the constitution and the bill of rights.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Technically that is correct however the vast majority of conservatives today are Classical Liberals"
- again, this is completely irrelevant to what the movements are actually about, it's something your projecting onto it and irrespective of whether it's based on a faulty deduction or ad populum fallacy, it's still incorrect.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Its completely relevant the conservative movement, the tea party movement and the libertarian movement (which all overlap each other) all stand for small government and individual rights. I am proud to be a part of all three movements. you saying its incorrect or irrelevant doesn't make it so.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"ts completely relevant the conservative movement, the tea party movement"
- incorrect, it has no relevance to the conservative movement, it's something you've inferred onto it based on an ad populum fallacy which is inturn based on a set of ideals you've asserted to be held by the bulk of conservatives.
The statement you've made is incorrect, no mater how you look at it.
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Its completely relevant the conservative movement, the tea party movement and the libertarian movement (which all overlap each other) all stand for small government and individual rights"
yes, conservatives can be libertarian however that has nothing to do with them being conservative - they are concerned with separate things.
"you saying its incorrect or irrelevant doesn't make it so. "
- no English language is what has debunked your claims, refer to definitions.
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
1).
- I provided evidence that conservatives are more racist than the general populous
- You responded by posting acts of racism that allege were committed by liberals.
Your argument fails because it doesnt address my point ie. who was more racist in the past has no bearing on my statement which refers to the here-and-now.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000
2). you asserted that "Conservatives believe in individual rights...the majority cannot infringe the rights of the minority..."
this statement is flat-out wrong: not only does this have nothing to do with conservatism (a political and social philosophy that promotes the maintenance of traditional institutions and supports, at the most, minimal and gradual change in society) but the things you have stated ARE ALREADY PROTECTED by the constitution
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 You have provided no evidence that republicans are more racist than democrats all you did was claim that republicans are more racist than democrats. and if you want modern day examples look at the current black panther party. la raza, liberal radio host tom joyner saying on air that blacks should vote or obama just because hes black. how about the scores of liberals who are claiming both herman cain and barack obama aren't authentically black. how about the clarence thomas hearings
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"You have provided no evidence that republicans are more racist than democrats"
- incorrect, my statements were in respect to conservatives (not republicans specifically), i ahve already provided evidence but i think this but i think the following one does it more aptly (as it also shows how they also oppose civil rights )
wjh[.]harvard.edu/soc/faculty/bobo/pdf%20documents/Racism.pdf
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Wow leftist professors claiming their opponents are racist that study is totally believable because a professor would never lie for his ideology. Oh wait they do that all the time. Academics are the most dishonest group of people in the country. after journalists and politicians of course. It no secret that academia is run almost entirely by the left. What the left calls civil rights are nothing more than entitlements. More republicans voted for REAL civil rights than democrats.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Wow leftist professors claiming their opponents are racist that study is totally believable because a professor would never lie for his ideology. "
- this is an argument from ignorance claim (logical fallacy) because you have no actual argument against the data you instead simply assert it's incorrect without any evidence at all. Sad really.
i've provided evidence for claim, how about you do the same.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Oh there is plenty of evidence. It is very common for professors to do things to manipulate data such as changing the definitions of words to get the data they want. also using biased survey questions is another common thing done. Also some of the things they consider "racist" are things like opposing affirmative action or cutting funding things like low income housing. Also your link doesn't even work so I have no way of even seeing the study you showed.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Oh there is plenty of evidence. It is very common for professors to do things to manipulate data such as changing the definitions of words to get the data they want."
- notice how you start by claiming there is evidence, then make an assertion AND FAIL TO PRODUCE ANY EVIDENCE.
"also using biased survey questions is another common thing done"
- another assertion. (which even if true, would not indicate the questions of the study were biased)
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Also some of the things they consider 'racist' are things like opposing affirmative action or cutting funding things like low income housing"
- the latter yes, the former no. Last time i checked suppressing the rights of specific ethnic groups because the institution of said rights would cause loss of profit is a racist practice. The fact they're doing it because it's 'cost effective' is beside the point.
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Also your link doesn't even work so I have no way of even seeing the study you showed."
- type in the url WITHOUT THE SQUARE BRACKETS
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Still not working buddy.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
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@AynRandRevolution
"Still not working buddy.'
- i cant be held responsible for the fact that you lack the mental faculties necessary to enter a link.
Here is a mirror:
scholar[.]harvard[.]edu/bobo/files/racism.pdf
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Ayn Rand was a moron who thought she could survive on her own genius but when cancer threatened to wipe out the little bit of wealth she managed to put away for her old age she changed her name and applied for welfare benefits. The queen of the Libertarians, a stupid bitch preaching to the ignorant. She had a modicum of success on her own but like other so called self made successes, when she failed and she turned to the state to keep her ass off the street.
logtype47 3 months ago
@logtype47 Ayn Rand did not change her name to collect medicare she changed her name back to her maiden name after her husband died there's nothing wrong with that. And why shouldn't she have used medicare She payed into it didn't she. Of course she advocated getting rid of it but as long as the state makes you pay for it you mine as well use it. And she had a lot of success. She is still a best selling author 50 years later. I love how much you self righteous parasites hate Ayn Rand.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution You do realize that you've made the case for all U.S. citizens, rich or poor to join in and collect welfare? How amusing.
If Ayn Rand was as wealthy as you claim, why didn't she opt for a private free market insurance plan like Blue Cross Blue Shield. Instead she went scrambling for RED HAMMER RED SICKLE, that inferior socialized government welfare program known as Medicare. What a joke.
logtype47 3 months ago
@logtype47 How is that a case for collective welfare? Ayn Rand used medicare because she had paid into it. And the only reason she had paid into it is because you are FORCED BY LAW to pay into it. if you don't believe me take a look at your last paystub medicare is deducted automatically you don't have a choice.
She also died because of it so i guess you are half right medicare and other government welfare programs are definitely inferior.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Are you dense? Medicare and social security are collective welfare programs. Again, you are making the case for every U.S. citizen to take advantage of social welfare.
Corporations are also forced by law to pay taxes. Under your logic, subsidies to major corporations are perfectly justified because the government forcibly took their money through taxes.
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AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@logtype47 People shouldn't be forced to pay into social welfare programs in the first place but as long as they are it makes no sense not to use them. that's like not eating food in your fridge just because you don't like it You still paid for you mine as well eat it. And No corporations shouldn't be subsidized OR taxed. Taxes on corporations are double taxes. When a corporation distributes dividends to its shareholders the shareholders pay taxes on it. why do liberals hate corporations so much
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Really - no social programs. So does that mean to hell grandma when she gets old. No healthcare for her? Privatize primary education too? What should we pay taxes for?
As for the vets who get TRICARE(Another WELFARE program) - to hell with them also?
logtype47 3 months ago
Respond to this video... Grandma should be saving for the future with something called a personal retirement account. Also there is this little thing called FAMILY and PRIVATE CHARITY. The public education system in the US is terrible the best thing that could be done would be for vouchers to be given so that parents could decide which school they want their child to go to. After awhile the bad schools would be closed down.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Grandma should be saving for the future with something called a personal retirement account"
- my objections to this are exactly the same for the case study i provided, you want to magically introduce a system that nations more economically stable than your own have been unable to do whilst simultaneously rejecting a system that is observed to work.
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Also there is this little thing called FAMILY and PRIVATE CHARITY"
hahaha, you seriously want to try to use that as an argument?
Your solution is:
- mooche off the relatives
- hope for donations from churches .etc
You'd be nuking the people that form the basis of your economy when a better system is already observable and being implemented.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Yes family and private charity Its worked in the US for years well up until the 60's when Johnson started introducing all kinds of failed social welfare policies. And grandma should have a responsibility to save for her own future. maybe grandma doesn't retire at 65 maybe she works till shes 68. The US Constitution says it is the legitimate purpose of government to promote for the GENERAL welfare giving handouts to the elderly would be SPECIFIC welfare.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Yes family and private charity Its worked in the US for years"
- it currently works for some people with some things some of the time, it's effectiveness is spotty at best and god only knows what it would be like with the influx your purposal would put on it.
" And grandma should have a responsibility to save for her own"
- i havnt brought up any grandma example, the test case i used was Jimmy (the child of a low-income family) and so far you've failed to address it
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Oh yeah someone else I was arguing with was asking what happens to grandma anyways I have answers what happens to jimmy he receives medical care that federal law requires hospitals to give him if he asks for it. And he will receive a bill that he will probably have to pay off in installments. Now I don't know if you know this but the US citizens give more money to charity than EVERY OTHER COUNTRY COMBINED so there is defiantly plenty of private charities that could help jimmy.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"I have answers what happens to jimmy he receives medical care that federal law..."
- i already pointed-out the flaw with this:
"actually if im not mistaken your current laws only prevent someone being refused treatment in circumstances of immediate risk, if the person in question is experiencing a progress illness then they're basically screwed until it gets worse (often cant be fixed once this occurs)"
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Well clearly you don't know American law very well. A person cannot be refused medical care regardless of ability to pay for any reason (the only exception be cosmetic procedures). just because Jimmy's parents are to lazy or incompetent to earn enough money to buy insurance does not make it societies problem.
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"Well clearly you don't know American law very well. A person cannot be refused medical care regardless of ability to pay for any reason"
"just because Jimmy's parents are to lazy or incompetent..."
- and it's this line of reasoning that has landed your country in the healthcare crisis your in, you screw over the people that form the basis of your economy
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Well clearly you don't know American law very well"
- incorrect, one of the major things that has caused your current system to fail is that you do not treat people until their problems get worse. ie. elective surgeries that fix problems before they become permanent and life threatening.
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"US citizens give more money to charity than EVERY OTHER COUNTRY COMBINED so there is defiantly plenty of private charities that could help jimmy."
- as i already point-out:
"it currently works for some people with some things some of the time, it's effectiveness is spotty at best and god only knows what it would be like with the influx your purposal would put on it"
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 about half of the Americans without healthcare have a household income of 60,000 or more so they can afford healthcare they just choose to spend their money on other thing (the libs always leave that part out) How is it moral for the federal government to take money from one group of people and give it to another. Someones (supposed) need is not a mortgage on another life or productivity.
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types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"about half of the Americans without healthcare have a household income of 60,000 or more so they can afford healthcare"
The average is a crappy indicator of central tendency because it is confounded by outliers from the incredibly rich. The overall median personal income for all individuals over the age of 18 is only $24,062.
Also THE MINIMUM WAGE ie. income of people who form the basis of your economy was only $7.25 /hour in 2009 (barely above the poverty line)
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So? Personal income is deceptive too, because many people with low personal income are people primarily supported by someone else, for example, a teenager working part-time while living his parents, or a house-wife working part time who is primarily supported by her husband. And that statistic may take into account those with no income because they are RETIRED or completely supported by their husbands/family.
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"So? Personal income is deceptive too, because many people with low personal income are people primarily supported by someone else..."
- well then by all means demonstrate this by providing evidence for your assertion:"about half of the Americans without healthcare have a household income of 60,000 or more so they can afford healthcare"
types10000 3 months ago
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Also you ability to read seems selective as you've completly failed to address my second point:
"Also THE MINIMUM WAGE ie. income of people who form the basis of your economy was only $7.25 /hour in 2009 (barely above the poverty line)"
Do low income workers simply not exist in your world? or do they simply not play an important role in the economic growth?
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@AynRandRevolution
" Now I don't know if you know this but the US citizens give more money to charity than EVERY OTHER COUNTRY COMBINED"
No:
- CAF’s World giving Index places you as 5th
- The Organisation for Economic Co-operation places you as 19th (although this also includes international giving)
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution I'm with you pal. America beats out the world in the charity arena which means there is plenty of money out there for 50 million uninsured Americans who can get plenty of healthcare from family, friends and churches.
teapartyxpress 3 months ago
@teapartyxpress if the federal government would allow people to buy insurance across state lines and stop devaluing the US dollar the the number of uninsured Americans would be much smaller. actually about half of the Americans without healthcare have a household income of 60,000 or more so they can afford healthcare they just choose not to buy it (the libs always leave that part out)
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@logtype47 As for our vets. The military is a special case. Because unlike your other examples the military IS a legitimate purpose of government as spelled out in the US constitution. It is legitimate for the government to take care of veterans injured in the line of duty (same with police officers another legitimate purpose of government. TRICARE is not a welfare program though. It is an insurance company contracted by the federal government for the purpose of taking care of soldiers.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution The Constitution does not mention, nor require TRICARE, or G.I. Bill, ie) military pensions, government home loans, subsidized education, etc.
Who determines what is and isn't a legitimate reason to provide welfare benefits?
You forget grandma. What do we do with grandma???
logtype47 3 months ago
@logtype47 TRICARE (which is a private insurance company not run by the government) and Military Pensions are recruitment tools. In order to have a military you need to recruit soldiers which means you have have to make it work their while to join. As for government home loans I agree that's bullshit. The general welfare clause determines what is legitimate if something benefits all of us generally it is legitimate, since soldiers protect ALL of us it is legitimate to use those recruitment tools
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@AynRandRevolution A recruitment tool...that's your excuse for US military socialism. How pathetic. TRICARE is NOT a private under any stretch of the imagination. It is however an "entitlement" program funded by "taxpayer" dollars. TRICARE is run by the United States Department of Defense.
Where the hell did you read that TRICARE was private?
logtype47 3 months ago
@logtype47 How dare you call military benefits socialism. Tricare is private insurance you America hating tyrant.
teapartyxpress 3 months ago
@logtype47 If TRICARE is taxpayer funded like you said it is, well then we should privatize it too. Give vets the freedom to choose their own healthcare and invest their retirement pensions on Wall Street. Life is a gamble. Let the free-market sort out their fate.
teapartyxpress 3 months ago
@teapartyxpress I commend you for your honesty. Finally a crazed conservo-freak who holds steadfast to free-market principles across the board. You actually said privatize military healthcare and pensions. Who the fuck says shit like that. I tip my hat to you.
logtype47 3 months ago
@logtype47 Look at Ron Paul's campaign manager who died because he had $400,000 dollars in medical debt and didn't have health insurance. He should have done a better job shopping his medical affliction on the free market to churches and other charities. What faith based charity would turn down the chance to help this guy pay his bills.
teapartyxpress 3 months ago
@logtype47 If grandma doesnt have any friends and family who will help pay her healthcare, she's more than welcomed to head over to her local church down the block and they will pay for her medications and healthcare. Done deal. I just answered you question sherlock smarty pants.
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teapartyxpress 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Special case my butt. Tricare is socialism. Military should get paid just like any other job. They need to buy healthcare like everybody else. When they leave the army the government is no longer responsible for taking care of then because thats just nanny state. If a vet gets injured, thats on them. They knew going in that there was a chance of injury. They are responsible, not the government. The constitution does not state we have to provide health care for vets.
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Then what does that make businesses who provide health insurance to their employees? Nanny businesses?
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@teapartyxpress
Also, the what distinguishes a non-nanny state is that it says "You can do what you want, you just have to pay for the consequences." not "You can do what we want, you just have to pay for the consequences." Allowing someone to do what THEY want and letting them pay for the negative consequences is freedom. Imploring someone to do what YOU want (join your army), and then refusing to pay for the negative consequences is called being a dick.
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That and if the military paid like any other business it would demand wages akin to Blackwater...at least.
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logtype47 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution "to hell with grandma"
logtype47 3 months ago
@logtype47 You have to understand there is a hidden tax that is seldom talked about and mostly effects the poor. The inflation tax. Whenever a country prints money it doesn't have money becomes less valuable. If you really cared about the elderly and the poor you wouldn't advocate for things like medicare for the very practical reason that the programs are pushing the US into debt. If the US dollar hadn't been so devalued the vast majority of people would be able to afford medical care.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"If you really cared about the elderly and the poor you wouldn't advocate for things like medicare for the very practical"
- no, your multiple international wars and constant deregulation of the market over the last 20+ years are what has pushed you into debt.
- medicare is a tried and tested government run system that correlates with better healthcare and healthcare standards on every test ever conducted. It's something the bulk of firstworld already has.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Woah now who said I was for the wars. The war in Iraq was never justified and the war in Afghanistan was only justified for the first month or so. After we toppled the Taliban we should have come home. And medicare is does not correlate with better healthcare standards. Out of all insurance programs medicare has the highest rate of fraud. And the market hasn't been deregulated Bush put in FAR more regulations than he got rid of. And lets be honest here you were already a liberal.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Woah now who said I was for the wars"
- i never said you were, but the fact your trying deflect blame for debt crisis onto public services instead of the more blatant causes is very disingenuous. Especially given the fact that said services are demonstrated to work in other nations.
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@AynRandRevolution
"And medicare is does not correlate with better healthcare standards"
- medicare is one implementation of government healthcare and is directly analogous to the systems that correlate with better healthcare + healthcare standards on every test ever conducted.
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"And the market hasn't been deregulated Bush put in FAR more regulations than he got rid of. And lets be honest here you were already a liberal."
incorrect:
- The market has been severely deregulated (and not just under bush either) you've been doing it for a while.
- A large quantity of small regulations does not counter-balance the large and far reaching regulations
- i'm Australian, i view your system from the outside and in this respect am comparatively objective
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Oh you're an AUSSIE tell me. If the healthcare system in the US is so horrible and unfair then why do members of your parliament fly over to the US when they need heart surgeries and cancer treatments? Also I have no idea where you are getting your information from because it was government sponsored (and regulated) entities Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac If it wasn't for CRA there never would have been a Fannie and Freddie to push bad loans. Its the governments fault not the free market
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
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"Oh you're an AUSSIE tell me. If the healthcare system in the US is so horrible and unfair then why do members of your parliament fly over to the US when they need heart surgeries and cancer treatments?"
- care to cite one? or are referring to an isolated instance where a world renoued specialist just happened to be in the US?
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types10000 3 months ago
"If the US dollar hadn't been so devalued the vast majority of people would be able to afford..."
- O'rly?
Test Case:
Jimmy is a 12 year-old in a low income family, Jimmy's parents arnt particularly good at planning and have decided to save money by by not buying healthcare. What happens to Jimmy if he becomes seriously ill?
it doesnt have to be low income families either, it could be any situation in which the family experiences financial hardship.
- What if his illness is progressive?
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Well what will happen is Jimmy will go to the doctor and he will receive medical care because federal laws states that a doctor cannot refuse to provide medical care. His parents will receive a bill which they may have to pay off in installments. Now if the cost of the dollar hadn't been devalued the service he received wouldn't be as expensive so they would be able to pay off their debt much faster. If jimmy's illness is REALLY bad Jimmy's parents can seek private charity.
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"Well what will happen is Jimmy will go to the doctor and he will receive medical care because federal laws states that a doctor cannot refuse to provide medical care"
- actually if im not mistaken your current laws only prevent someone being refused treatment in circumstances of immediate risk, if the person in question is experiencing a progress illness then they're basically screwed until it gets worse (often cant be fixed once this occurs)
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Now if the cost of the dollar hadn't been devalued the service he received wouldn't be as expensive..."
again:
your asserting that you can magically do something that nations more economically stable than your own have been unable to do:
"make it so low-income individuals/families are able to plan/pay for the service and nobody experiences financial hardship that makes them unable to afford it."
Do you have magical powers?
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
options:
a). institute a tried-and-tested government run system that the bulk of the first world already has
b). Do something that societies more economically stable than your own have been unable to do ie. make it so low-income individuals/families are able to plan/pay for the service and nobody experiences financial hardship that makes them unable to afford it.
Unless you have magical powers then [b] is going to make your economy look like Iraq.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Just because medicare is tried and tested doesn't mean its good. In all likely hood it would be much cheaper to give doctors a tax credit if they provide free care (so long as they document it). Where do you get this Idea that poor people are unable to pay off debts. Poor people have the ability to pay off debt it just takes them a little longer why should their debt fall on society? The reason insurance is so expensive is because the market is so regulated.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"Just because medicare is tried and tested doesn't mean its good"
- no, THAT IS DEMONSTRATED by the fact it correlates with the best healthcare and healthcare standards on every study that has ever been conducted.
"Where do you get this Idea that poor people are unable to pay off debts"
- i never insinuated this, i simply pointed-out that low income families and people in debt are equally screwed under the system you purpose.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 Poor people should have the right to push their own misfortunes onto the rest of society. And I don't know what studies you're looking at because medicare has the highest rate of fraud out of all insurance options People are more likely to undergo unnecessary and sometimes painful tests if their on a medicare plan versus if they are on a private healthcare plan or just pay out of pocket.
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"Poor people should'nt have the right to push their own misfortunes onto the..."
- poor people arnt, the government offers healthcare as a service just like police
" And I don't know what studies you're looking at because medicare has the highest rate of fraud out of all insurance options"
- as i pointed-out government run healthcare correlates with better healthcare and healthcare standards on every study ever conducted an example being the WHO 2008 health report.
types10000 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"In all likely hood it would be much cheaper to give doctors a tax credit if they provide free care (so long ..."
- This is simply a patch that you hope will fix an inherit failure of your system. And it's as much an assertion as your insinuation that mooching of relatives / charities will help
"The reason insurance is so expensive is because the market is so regulated."
- incorrect, just look at the bulk of nations who have implemented government run healthcare.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 I have seem the bulk of nations that have implemented government run healthcare. When their leaders get seriously ill they fly to the US to receive care.
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"I have seem the bulk of nations that have implemented government run healthcare. When their leaders get seriously ill they fly to the US to receive care."
- again, care to back that up with evidence. It's clearly what you want to believe, but it's not consistent with reality.
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@AynRandRevolution
"that means that the majority cannot infringe the rights of the minority"
- this is something that is already ensured by your constitution and is the very reason the founding fathers established a republic and not a democracy. It has nothing to do with being conservative.
types10000 3 months ago
@SuperBlackWoman1 Jon Stewart is a racist! Obama used the race card to get elected. So, a conservative is not allowed to call liberals racist, but a liberal can call a conservative racist? That is hypocritical! Herman Cain is no coward, only someone who has just started watching the GOP candidates would say such a dumb thing. Cain only pointed out that using the stereo typical "Uncle Tom" voice was a racist thing to do & he is right! Criticize the man on his policies not his RACE!
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"Jon Stewart is a racist!"
- evidence?
"Obama used the race card to get elected"
- no, Obama was elected because his opposition was senile and his oppositions vice was mentally handicapped.
"So, a conservative is not allowed to call liberals racist"
- oh no, there's definitely some racist liberals out there, but the fact is the conservative camps are just so much more racist and fairly open about it too.
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@BondFreek -Obama has never played the Race Card show me video evidence of Obama himself calling someone racist because he never has but hypocrite Herman Cain calls everyone racist who disagrees with him Cain called Jon Steward racist and Cain accused Rick Perry of being racist Cain also said liberals racist and lynching him
Only Obama Supporters have the played the Race Card but Obama himself has never called anyone racist Obama even criticized Jimmy Carter for calling conservatives racist
SuperBlackWoman1 3 months ago
@SuperBlackWoman1 You are no "Super Black Woman"! You are an ignorant Woman. I'm not even sure that you're not being paid by the Democrats or Cain's competitors to say such dumb hateful things.
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@AynRandRevolution Obama never out right used the race car on national TV but he hired people to play the race card to scare people into voting for him. Don't you remember the whole "If you don't vote for Obama you’re a racist" campaign? Or the blasphemous way he had his posters painted so that his "O" would be a halo?
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You: "Obama used the race card to get elected"
You later: "Obama never out right used the race card"
FAILURE.
and then you end with the baseless assertion that he hired people to use it on his behalf. absolutely hilarious.
"the whole 'If you don't vote for Obama you’re a racist' campaign"
- yes, the imaginary one.
types10000 3 months ago
@types10000 You must be a reporter for MSNBC, because you just took my words out of context & twisted them to suit your need to be a jerk. There was a racist campaign! Several of Obama supporters with official Obama campaign credentials called me a racist because I was not going to vote for him. My friends in other states told me that they too were told to vote for Obama or be labeled a racist. It was also reported in several news articles. So don't tell me it was "imaginary"!!!!
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@BondFreek
"You must be a reporter for MSNBC, because you just took my words out of context & twisted them to suit your need to be a jerk"
- if you believe this is the case then provide the correct context.
"There was a racist campaign! Several of Obama supporters..."
- the opinions/actions of Obama supporters do not constitute the opinions/actions of Obama himself (which is what your claim specified)
Try again :)
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