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  • lets face it we are all to blame if we dont stop buying chineese and start making stuf in america we are going to sink;.;.

  • @roamershaker There is no precedent in the history of the world for a ppl to of their own will, paying more for domestic products en mass. Once you recognize the problem as government interference in and severe restraint of the free market, the solution writes itself. The economic web of interrelations isn't fathomable; you've got to liberate the invisible hand.

  • it is gona take a long while to clean up bushes mess

    

  • @roamershaker sooo, you're just ignoring that Obama voted for Bush's bailout and has not just stuck with the keynesian economic plans, but tripled the debt, and not only won't give credit to the surge for its successes but incists on drawing down troop levels? oh yeah "Bush's Mess", HAH.

    The Ignorant "Blame Bush" mentality doesn't solve anything; moreover it is a severe problem in itself.

  • @asderathos when all is said and done history will call it bushes war and bushes debt;.;.;.;.

  • @roamershaker and the REAL historians will know that that is just like how FDR blamed Hoover,as he proceeded to drive the country into the ground. The guy who's IDEA the "New Deal" was condemned it as a failure, & so called "Historians" [literally from FDR's cabinet] WHO WROTE THE HISTORY, praised FDR's 'experimentations' in spite of ALL the evidence.

    So yes, there's nothing to show that the indoctrination will cease anytime soon. Their are too many Obama shills w/ thrills running up their legs

  • @asderathos you said it "bushes bailout".; 

  • Yes Bush's Bailout, which Obama voted for, that was one inch over the line to the end of "Abandoning Free Market Principles" COMPARED TO OBAMA'S 10 yards of STIMULUS; NATIONALIZING BANKS AUTO & ATTEMPTED NATIONALIZING OF MEDICINE AND LIITERALLY INSTITUTIONALIZING "TOO BIG TO FAIL" WITH THE "FINANCIAL BILL"!!!

    You must be not just ignorant but oblivious to blame bush at this point.

  • Vote for individuals, not parties. It will be hard since the limit on how much a corporation could donate to a campaign, was squashed in January of 2010. But if we inform every voter we see, we will be able to avoid another slew of media induced voting. During the next election, TURN YOUR TV'S OFF! Do the research yourselves, and sifting through the vast sea of rhetoric will be much, much easier.

  • audit the fed

  • Obama = Bush

  • YES WE CAN change absolutely nothing

  • @clickmobinil EXCEPT... ward off another great depression, add regulations to prevent another economic collapse, reforming health care to allow ppl even with pre-existing conditions to be covered, bring 100,000 troops home from the war, give record tax cuts to the middle class, prevented the collapse of the big 3 auto makers, killed BinLaden, increase job growth several months in a row going back over a year(that bush did not do once), double Americas capacity to generate renewable energy, etc.

  • the left is the right and the right is the left. both parties are controlled by the same elitist bastards!

  • Stop confusing The Two Party System with the Political Spectrum. /watch?v=DioQooFIcgE

  • Bipartisanship used to serve a purpose in this country. Now it and silly labels like "liberal" and "conservative" are utilized as dividing forces by the elites so we fight each other, not the forces that are oppressing us. The corporatocracy is screwing us all! Time to get past personal differences and unite!

  • I find myself agravated on the basis of these similarities, betwwen the two Presidents. Aggravated to a level where consistens thoughts procecing is scarce.

    Does anyone here, who studies (U.S.) foreign policy have a guees as to when the next full blown invasion will take place, in a foriegn country rich on various natural resources. Then I would love to discuss it with you and learn more. What do you know ? ?

  • Every country is rich in natural resources. I cannot remember the title but there is a book all about natural resources in various nations.

    If the equipement was up and running now, we could supply our own energy needs but politics prevents it regardless of the facts. Nuclear energy, is as viable as ever.

    Only Wrongheaded Ideology Prevents us from reclaiming independance.

  • Yeah, Nuclear, however tell me how to safely dispose of the Nuclear waste? Because even Scientists don't have a "Viable" option. Sure they can bury it, but those drums end up leaking, and it take a LONG time for that waste to lose its potency. Making more however does make it a bit easier for the availability for dirty bombs.

    We need to use Hemp. Over 25,000 products from food to fuel to clothes to etc etc. We need HHO Gas research, and the MYT Engine to become standard. Fuck Oil and Nuclear.

  • Actually, there is a "Viable Option" Storeage, You discount it because of Propaganda of "leaking drums" from the tree huggers who, with any inquiry would prove themselves more incompetant in matters of environment than Obama is in matters of Economy. What does France do? with 80% of its power nuclear? Anti Nuclear sentiment stems from mass hysteria, over a movie "The China Syndrome" made by activists for that very purpose. We HAVE Nuke Power Plants, where are the catastrophes, The Leaks?

  • You're listening to the Fear Mongering of ppl with an Anti Capitalist Agenda, They want to DeIndustrialize America. And as for the availability of Nuclear wast to terrorists Ask Canada how they handle it. The Solutions are already figured out. All we need is a sane govt, to allow an expansion of an industry destroyed by Ignorance. Believing propaganda without inquiry is how hemp was banned, so do yourself a favor and look into the pro Nuke argument with honest eyes.

  • For the sake of a possibility of being wrong I will look further into it. However on your statement about a sane Government I have to say the chances of that happening only comes possible once we have dealt with those in power who come from old families, or are associated with those people; Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Warburgs, etc. Until then, I = idea's/ideals, H = Human/Humanity therefore I + H = FUBAR. Religion, Government, Society, you name the institution -Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition.

  • We ARE sinking back into a class system but there is also the danger of a partially maoist revolution where you kill off or entrepreneurially cripple those most capable (wealthy or not), by attempting to institute a classless system (which ends in a dystopiotic vacuum for dictatorship). Meritocracy, must be the goal IE a Class Mobility System, via merit.

  • Show us some proof that those drums leak. You won't find it because there is none.

    Those drums were specifically made to withstand an impact from a freakin' high speed train and not leak any materials.

  • This is not really a flaw of Obama's. It just that the 2 party system that has developed by itself. simply does not work. Basically you are choosing between the same 2 sleezey politicians. The only difference? One likes cheese on their sandwich and the other doesn't. Its still the same thing!

  • Jesse Ventura said it best. Politics are like Wrestling. Outside the curtain everyone attacks each other. Behind the curtain everyone is buddy buddy. Take a look at previous Administrations and those up to the current; some of the same people involved. Now look at the Council on Foreign Relations, Rockefellers evil organization. Now look at AIPAC. Look at the DOD. Look at bigtime Corp's. Take a look at the Lobbyists. Take a look at who is profiting off of what. Power is being centralized!

  • Is this the type of "change" Obama was talking about while campaigning for President? Any Democrat in the Democrat controled Congress could author a bill to cut the funding for the military police actions (undeclared wars) in Iraq & Afghanistan and effectively bring all of the troops home within 6-months. Such a bill, would be authored, introduced to Congress and signed by Obama (in record time) if they really believed in "change." The American people have been lied to once again.

  • he is still one of the chosen one's... another Zionist

  • As a Zionist myself (Believer in the Right of Israeli's Not to be wiped out via Nuke) I can only hope so, He shows little sign of it tho.

  • the only country in the middle east that has nukes is Israel....wake up you dosey bastard. take off the silly head beanie and take a red pill. But I guess you are one of those people that like the fact Israel attcked the USS Liberty and Wille Pete'd Gaza.

  • That just goes to show how ignorant you are. Where exactly is Pakistan??? Not south America. The News is filled with quaking about what if The Taliban takes over Pakistan; CAUSE THEY HAVE NUKES!~

    (LMAO you think I wear a beanie lol) I don't take pills, They Distort Your Perception. "The Eye That Alters Alters All." -William Blake

    "Fact" yeah right, You are buying Conspiracy theories rooted in antisemitism with many branches in IslamoFascism, Next it'll be "fire doesn't melt steel"

  • I cannot be bothered with a one eyed Zionist now or ever. Your information you have is from FOX, CNN and you other fcuken JEWS news whores who have been bought and paid for by your ZIONIST mates. Pakistan has Nukes, so you are right there but if you ever heard the statements made by Sibel Edmonds you would know how they got them. YOU ARE A CHILD AND A DIMWIT enjoy the chaos your love of the NWO brings to you and the ones you love most.

  • LMAO if you cannot be bothered why respond? =) Your all too typical stereo typing & name calling lends its self well to the image of a skin head.

    You think the threat of globalization and subsequent international Socialism, is reliant on your pathetic racial/Religio Conspiracy Dogma? Pathetic. Stop listening to BigFoot's Half truths and Whole Cloth Lies

    You need look no further than the 2 party ideology & practice to see whats coming. No Evil Jews Drinking blood. The Truth Will Set You Free.

  • your a JEW now not a ZIONIST. Make up your confused mind already. What type of Co-intelpro are you and how much do they pay you?

    All religion is a CULT and Im not interested in drinking the KOOL-AID thanks for the Religio Conspiracy Dogma sentiment but I will pass.

    Yes the truth will set you free, its obvious your not. But at least you get a good paycheck for it. How much was that again?

  • I guess I should take (from a conspiracy Theorist like yourself) the suggestion that my opinion is carefully crafted counter Inelegance as a compliment I do try and organize my thoughts well but the flawed humanity you seem to think ppl can overcome to have crafted & maintained a vast delicate web of lies, seems always to show thru

    & Once again I'm not a "Jew" but merely a starving artist, Constitution Conservative, Unitarian Leaning, (Unpaid) American Citizen & student of (unrevised) history.

  • And just what do You Believe? I mean, besides in the Final Solution.

    Or is it all too drastic to reveal to an evil agent of OZ.

    Slandering Dissenters, seems a lil Orwellion/Stalinist dudknit.

  • you realise you just implied I am a NAZI with the final solution crack, why is it all you idiots ((starving artist, Constitution Conservative, Unitarian Leaning, (Unpaid) American Citizen & student of (unrevised) history. )) always bring that up when your clearly loosing this arguement.

    NO FOR THE LAST TIME I AM A TRUTHIST.

    As for the other incoherent  bullsh*t I can only put that down to a lack of education, morals and basic humanity.

  • Mno i implied you are for the destruction of the Jewish Race, Nazi stands for national socialism, whereas Hitler's Eugenics was in no way etymologically tied to the term "Nazi" only in the practice of Bloodhype Eugenics Scapegoating.

    If you want to call it one, the "State" of Palestine, is a Terrorist State having elected a Terrorist organization into power. & Thus any untoward actions of Israel are justified in that "Palestine" is a breeding ground for genocidal Suicidal Slaughter-mongers.

  • Have you not seen the Propaganda coming out of Palestine? or Iran for that matter? For a truthist all you've avowed so far is Jew Hatred And the Defacto Slaughter of all Israelis. How about saying something for a change.

  • I'm glad Obama is a pragmatist and not an ideologue. He is looking at the situation and making decisions that are best for the US...even if those decisions are the same thing Bush did.

    But, I have nothing but contempt for the Obama-bots and Bush haters who bought into Obama's simplistic campaign slogans. Only a fool would be surprised by the realization Bush wasn't wrong about everything.

  • And so the mind control keeps on.. You people just keep buying the same agenda as long as its a new dictator in office every four -eight years. Come on people, wake up! infowars,com

  • folk: lol. If the "mind control" is so effective, how did you elude it? Just too darn wiley, I guess. Or maybe it was your little tinfoil hat that prevents the mind control rays from getting through. lol

  • I would like to clarify that the (poorly worded) contention held broadly and beyond my corner of the political spectrum is that there is one Constitutionally Conservative voice in the national TV Media (FOX News) Which in and of itself is inadequate in carrying out its aforementioned task, even disregarding the context of its unilateral dissent to the rest of said Left Wing Media.

    & I digress; Regarding Jon Stewart, Comedians should not have to be the sole voice of reason so often.

  • Maybe I have tunnel vision, but how is Obama deviating from his Socialist agenda to do what's best for America, what He Thinks is best for America has always seemed to be socialism.

    If you wish to contest his agenda being "Socialist" He has avowed Redistribution of wealth as good for America and called the constitution a charter of negative liberties, intimating that he wished it changed to establish entitlements as rights secured therein by amendment and progressive taxation.

  • asderathos: On fiscal issues (raising taxes, growing govt), Obama certainly intends to move closer to european-style socialsm.

    On foreign policy, terrorism, and gitmo, I don't think Obama is pursuing socialism...I think he's making decisions on how best to deal with these issues. And his decisions are remarkably similar to those Bush made. I'm glad Obama's a pragmatist here and not an ideologue bowing to the Far Left

  • Gitmo Is outright pandering to the left, as evidenced in that he signed the order, with no where to put them and no concept of public courts applying rules of arrest unused in the field abroad Morphing it to a defacto release onto US streets as all other nations recognize them as terrorists.

    But what would be a Socialist Foreign Policy to you? To me talking to dictators, Apologizing for US to Europe & dismissing American auto Market Demand as less than irrelevant, is pretty Socialistic.

  • asderathos: yes, his order to close Gitmo is pandering to his Base. He made repeated campaign promises and can't get out of it

    But, he'll do what all pols do; he'll technically close Gitmo iot keep his promise...while simply shifting the prisoners to another Gitmo-like facility. Or...he'll make cosmetic changes at Gitmo and claim that he's kept his promise because the "New Gitmo" is cleansed of all the "Old Gitmo" stuff. Bottom line is that in substance his policies are pretty close to Bush's

  • obama and every president since bush was a puppet of the guys like the rothchilds, the rockefellers, and other big corporations that are major stockholders in the federal reserve. they are trying to create one global currency, one world government and then enslave humanity using military and technology. 9/11 was done by the cia. al queda all worked for the cia. not terrorist. there is no real enemy to fight. 9/11 was conducted to justify the war because sadam wouldn't sell out his country.

  • I would like to go on record as saying I'm Not a 9-11 "Truther" and any diligent study of history would tell that kind of conspiracy is pretty much impossible-and-unnecessary The NWO quoted By Bush Sr. IS the Globalization occurring under his son & Obama & it won't so much manifest a controlled holocaust of free thinkers as enable the destruction of western culture under the guise of tolerance dictated by Utopian fools That Hate America.

  • ya i don't get why people thought it would be any different than this

  • What did you believe Obama would say.

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