@WeThePeopleVStheNWO You are not Anti-American by supporting a presidential candidate... Your not the smartest little activist in the world, but none the less.
People are just stupid and lazy, and vote for politicians promising them simple solutions to complex problems. There is no conspiracy, other than to make a FRIGGIN LOT OF MONEY!!! They are greedy - yes greed can make people evil.
This is the New World Order, Its End Of World, Its The Rapture, It means god is coming back, Talks exactly about this in the bible, Its all coming to an end! They will have to kill me, I will be a Free christian or I will Die, Zeitgeist is brought to you by none other- Anti Christ
Some people seem to think that Zeitgeist Google is not related to the Zeitgeist movement. If they say they are not connected it is a simply way of bringing attention to the word "ZEITGEIST" so that they can bring attention to the movement without being "associated" with the movement.
This is just like my purpose in life right now, which is to bring attention to the word "MAJORMIGRAINE"
I dislike it for it being boring, redundant, and stupid.
I mean, of course everything that we own today breaks so quickly; everyone doesn't take care of their stuff! If you buy somthing that is cheap, it will be what its worth, nothing. Companies make high quility products, you just have to pay for it. It's not their fault everyone is so cheap.
@RoXHavoc It's not a matter of being cheap. Most people just can't afford the products and services that would make our society benevolent for everyone. Who's fault is that?
@RoXHavoc Actuall,y yeah it is their fucking fault and it's also your fault for continuing to enable the establishment. The only things in our way of making a sustainable resource based economy are the naysayers on both sides, and the do-nothing obstructionists...aka: plagues on humanity known as the Right.
I honestly can't understand how anyone could "dislike" this video if they are actually educated and informed about the reality of our human condition, ie not what Fox News is selling.
As long as we allow a monetary policy, we will allow further detriment to our society through greed and corruption. We could take it all away, and allow ourselves true freedom, true opportunity through individual accomplishment, and true equality.
join the linguistic teams and help spread this information into all languages and corners of the World. 5 billion don't speak english. English proofreaders needed!!!
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i see most people are worried about being "controlled" the reality is we are all controlled by the environment we live in and a lot of our environment is made by man so the question is do want to be controlled by the tyrants and robbers, by accident or by ourselves with intelligent design?
the problem is the human heart; because of the fear of non-being, we do the evil thing. The only answer is the Gospel of Jesus, that offers the transfiguration of the human heart, and places the individual in a new Social Order, the Church, that, in the return of Christ, will bring forth a transfigured world. It is delusional to think we can do it on our own. It is ignoring the entirety of human history.
so logical and beatiful - we must communicate it to all people as soon as possible and where they resist -we must use understanding and knowledge to overcome - if we fail we will suffer economic colapse and enviromental colapse and possible human extinction - am am both encouraged by the solutions and discouraged by the resistance to them - i hope we are able to come togehter around these ideas
weither we like it or not the natural law of nature is going to lead us to a society that is not based on money , the present system cannot be sustained and brings out the worst in mankind , the only positives is the incentive to be creative but this benefit is eroded away by the----- at any cost to humans and the planet to achieve these goals . Temp solution is to limit population , have 1 citizen advice beareau to also remove money from the system and guide us to resolve resulting issues
@mastermoves5 according to jauqes fresco just education would limit population and i agree nothing would have to be implemented. people would understand birthcontrol and ecology and resource management very well and bam almost no unplanned pregnancies
The Internet is a miniature version of what TZM proposes. You have a task you want to complete but don't know how. What does everyone do. Google it! You type in what it is you want to know, you are then given the best answers available. the answers are just collaborations of information real people have submitted from there own use of the scientific method. Wikipedia is another example of this currently working in the real world.
@aivoetf our power is measurable. And we are already doing what you propose we shouldn't. Computers are replacing mundane tasks so that we can focus our abilities even further. Otherwise progression would be slow. The exhaust on your car is designed using computer software that calculates the best possible flow using the parameters we input. The only difference is it isn't buildin it for us yet.
@Aivoetf and anyone else who thinks computers can retaliate like some cybord fantacy movie. A computer can only function within it's perameters of what it has been built and instructed to function as, similar to how a man cannot live under water. Automating our relationship to the planet will greatly reverse the damage we have done, but if we don't consider a move in the direction of altruism then it's likely the laws of nature will automatically and naturally kick us OUT. Face it.
I do not worship a Sun God, yet also am not a Socialist. I do not beleive in central planning. This Zeitgeist Movement is shepherding me just like all other movements and systems. They start by giving you a little bit of truth, but then lead you back into your cage. This is half-assed futurism blended with socialism. Not For Me!
LoL! We give decision making to computers, because they are more efficient. And then they will decide that humans are useless and obsolete. Not a good idea. Maybe if we humans just focus on our mind for once? Lets change ourselves and rely less on machines. Or we will lose sight of why we want machines in the first place, to help us.
@aivoetf heh what? You obviously dont truly understand. Computers arent going to have the mental capabilities that humans do. and it isnt decision making that is being given to computers in TZM It's like a calculator they will calculate the most efficient means of completing a task. So what you are pretty much saying is that humans ARE useless and obsolete. Who are you to decide such a thing? Did you coming to that conclusion have an impact on human existence? no either would it if computers did
@anrchyx What im saying, in my usual gross manner, is that this video suggests we completely rely on machines/others. It also overlooks our human nature of wisdom. We are powerful beyond measure. The material and global problems we have can all be resolved if we were united and still had personal freedom and determination. We should never give our power away. Thats why we should not depend on other powers. We need to be self reliant. Wisdom and true perception can save us from dangers. Peace!
So many things in this video I agree with. The idea itself is wonderful, however saying all of our problems are technical and the answer is to have a computer make decisions for us shows a lack of understanding of who we really are and what we are capable of. It sounds like he is trying to hand the power over to machines to save us? Our greatest gift is free will, problematic as it is, it is the essence of our learning & development as a species. Innovative, thought provoking but many holes....
we have the capability, what we dont have is the momentum,,,,,,doesnt matter in the long run, for those that just sit by and wait for the awesome possibility of our potential, as it does from those that act upon the need for a better idea of choosing for ourselves how it is that we want to live........."it" can only happen due to those that have taken the the moment that they are in to say that " i think it can be better".......at that moment, we say "yes"
A moneyless collectivist "utopia" (yes, this is collectivist at its core) will never be the answer to mankind's troubles. It's true, our money is created and loaned to the govt. by evil banksters, but the answer is to go back to what has worked in the past, which is government created DEBT-FREE money.
Andrew Jackson did it, and was nearly killed for it. Lincoln did it, and was killed for it. Garfield and JFK started to do it, and were killed for it.
Venus project is a Luciferian project, Zeitgeist and Venus project are in reality runs by the Rothschilds familly. They use conspiracy tools in order to fool people.
Take care, illuminati have created this project using Jaque Fresco as a puppet to build the artificial paradise of the antichrist (see Brave New World).
You should know that only God can create the real paradise.
Please investigate seriousely, the Illuminati are controlling everything !
@NeoGabriel08 I think that YOU are run by the Rothchilds, spreading lies and fear like only luciferians can do. You are the puppet spreading hate and evil. You are the one being controlled. And for all you know, Fresco is sent by your God to help mankind build a new paradise...
Hey all,bet ya didn't know The Zeitgeist/Venus Project has United Nations connections,hmm?...we are ALL searching for answers as to why the world is on the brink of _______(fill in your blank "problem") in these trying times.But waiting(or expecting) for some collective movement's answers to all our problems with a seemingly good idea is folly.Following said movements ideas blindly is dangerous.Tread with caution Zeitgeisters and view "Zeitgeist :3 Moving Forward - Exposed [HQ]" here on youtube.
If you take a look at the total man-hours of volunteer work in the united states, you will see that more people volunteer than would even be needed to run a Resource-Based Economy.
"26.3 percent for the year ending in September 2010, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today."
- Quote directly from US statistics website, first line, first paragraph
Also, because people will do what they want to in an RBE, even more volunteers will be at hand.
@BourneFreeATL You do however have a point about road workers.I always thought that our consideration for what we pay highly for should be expanded.Right now we pay highly for things that either require a lot of skill or thinking / and or it carries alot of responsibiblity.But noone really thinks about the scarcity of finding people that are willing and capable of doing hard work.The idea is anyone can do it... but I think you will find that everyone CAN'T do it and pay should reflect that.
@kargaethas Basicly they both want to build up "paradise" on earth (without God), relying on humans' good will, ignoring and actually banning our weaknesses, like egoism, greediness, pride etc. You want to make more money and buy a Ferrari? That's not gonna happen.
1. You're not allowed to make more money
2. There is no such brand as Ferrari any more
All you need is water, food, home and a Moskvich. Get used to it.
Actually in an RBE, robots could build you a replica Ferrari if someone has programmed them to. (which is very possible) Or the computer system might suggest you build a better, faster and safer car, than a ferrari. Of course the end decision comes down to you, the individual.
Also, there's no need to "make more money" when everything is available to you without a price-tag.
@Anubis7169 I hope you realize that almost all the humanity will want a Ferrari if it's that easy to get it. But humans are weak, greedy. We'll want not just one, but may be two, three or even four different models of that car. So tell me, will the resources satisfy such "needs"? Not for a long time. In a Ferrari you have some rare materials. So here comes someone and tells us: you can't have more than one car, because that's all you need. That's what i mean by "banning our weaknesses".
@emetz44 I seriously doubt that if high-end products are available at zero cost and total convenience for everyone, people will want tons of them for.. I don't know.. "keeping"? You can have as many cars as you want, but with the availability that is proposed by Zeitgeist it won't mean anything to anyone. It will be easier for you to use things on a need-to basis rather than on a status enhancer basis. Collecting free Ferraris is no cooler than collecting used chewing gums.
@windextube My friend, the movie shows us actually a pure communist solution of the problem: no private property. This idea is so catastrophicly wrong, that i've no clue how did the makers took it seriously. Zeitgeist presents some idealistic views about the world and strong believe in the humans good side, totally ignoring our bad side. That's naive. A coin has two sides and you can't pretend that it's not true.
@emetz44 yeah pointing out just one point of the whole concept and making it communistic by that. I think that is more naive than saying all the bad things such as robberies and violence which are basically results of the capitalistic monetary enviroment would also happen in an enviroment in whicht they wouldn't have any basis. Violence was historically always an result of scarcity of recources or supersticions. You want proof? What about the ammish or the indian culture before columbus?
@emetz44 The amish people are pacifistic people who would rather go to prison than participatin in a war. What basis for the "bad side" would there be in the social concept Jacque Fresco is introducing. Before you star arguing about mental illnesses causing violence. Such mental illnesses are mostly caused by events in the childhood of the person which were clearly abusive like domestic violence. Again what basis would such an mental illness have in such an society.
@emetz44 Just saying something always has two sides is simply not true. What is the bad side on you breathing air? But what are exactly your critic points. Why would such an society fail? Please tell me your point of view and explain it in detail what would be the error and not just telling it would fail because it is communistic and idealistic. These two are just supersticions.
@windextube Well said...and that's exactly what some people have a hard time understanding. What good is possessing a fleet of cars? You can only drive one and the rest gather dust...bragging rights? What's there to 'brag about'? The idea that you can be moronic buying more then one car? Two cars is understandable enough, in case one breaks down, but more then two?...why? The make and model is irrelevant...brand name vehicles break down and I'd acquire a Honda before a Ferrari, easier to fix.
@emetz44 So why would everybody need to have an ferrari. Oh yeah it is fast! But wait what about the magnetic trains that are technically possible to build today(!) that would be way faster thand a ferri. Okay but the ferrari is a simbol of status. Hm what status would you need in a society where everybody is treated equaly? Social status wouldn't exist. What need would there be for an outdated peace of technology? Do you have the need for an campingfire every day or do you have an oven?
@kargaethas They are making the same mistakes communists made.They are talking about an idealistic society with some super cool technology (its magic currently because said tech doesn't exist yet). They are also saying that selfishness isn't a natural human trait.We can only see and feel what our own body feels while we don't feel what others feel, So we are more likely to do things good for ourselves and our own feelings which are the only real feelings to each one of us. Selfishness is born.
@orobasd Please do not append the fallacy of reasoning believing this has anything to do with 'communism' as such a monetary economic system was doomed for failure. The Zietgeist Movement is seeking to resolve the problem by eliminating the cause...currency. Please review this video once more and understand this...the technology you think does not exist - does. Peace be with you.
@mdlittle5466 There is no fallacy, Communists thought the technology Marx was talking about was available, You are making a similar mistake. we currently don't have the technology to create everything all people need in abundance. For two reasons, One is our tech in itself, The other is education. People aren't just ready to live in a sustainable way. Educating them and changing their views will take many years. The idea in itself is good but it's just too early but keep on trying.
@orobasd You're applying generalizations which does not bode well for your standpoint. Technology is not as foriegn to most people as you would believe. Almost every person on the planet is familiar with the internet, cell phones and personal computers. Education is just a keystroke away...eliminating the 'basic requirements' established by colleges and focus more on the core material studied would reduce education time phenomenally. It's not too early, in truth...this is long past due...
@mdlittle5466 You're overestimating people. I may be proven wrong , I hope so, But i think the current generation is way too corrupted by illogic to accept any form of logic. Look at all the devil/jesus comments. Education a keystroke away ? Only a small minority use the internet for educating themselves. There is enough knowledge available on the net to become an expert on any subject within a short time. But most people prefer browsing for porn , celebs and things that are utterly useless.
@orobasd The people of South Africa as well as South America are gaining access to the internet and they're not all 'using it for porn'. Some are educating themselves in trades such as electronics and computer programming that the current monetary system denies them. This is essentially what the Zietgeist Movement has been perpetuating...and it's becoming a reality. "The only price for knowledge is time, appending any other additional value...is extortion".
I have heard of this,this is apparently a movement based on the basis that are governmnent are corrupt or are profit based.First why are the leaders in power.I believe it to be because most are caring people who care about their country and their people. Their have been corrupt governments but which has proven to be the greater. Does good almost always prevails.Is any system perfect or any one of us who can rule perfectly.Are we not all provided for.Gratitude is virtue worth considering.
What prevails is ensuring the continuation of power for the people in power. Regardless of what negative or positive effects this might cause this is usually the case. And unfortunately money tends to lead people in power to have a more negative effect on the environment of many others. This does not have to be so.
The system proposed is not perfect, just a lot better than what we have right now.
@cogar48 Nobody has the right to take away the right of people to be bad. It's all about freedom of choice. We also make wrong decisions in purpose, right? Every day. But nobody comes to us and tells us: "hey people, u'r sooo bad". If we all realize the advantages of resource based economics, than sure we can do it. But please, don't go for the revolution. It has to be evolutionary change of politics view.
There is no freedom of choice. You can only choose from certain parameters within your particular society or culture. If something is not presented to you as a choice or as information some way then you can not possibly choose it.
@FuManBoobs That's true and that's why i support the idea of resource based economy, which should be presented to the sociaty as an option, not as a forcing. Than people should make their own choice: do they want to be slaves in the current monetary system or do they want to build up an ethical and efficient new economic, without breaking the columns of democracy.
@FuManBoobs Nope. We will decide to "kill ourselves", by choosing the monetary system. As a matter of fact, only humans are capable of suicide, which is another example of our free will. We must make difference between freedom of choice and the irreversible consequences of making a choice.
@emetz44 What does it matter if it is communism or conservatism? you only dislike communism because your government does. These are purely awesome ideas, you've just been influenced badly by your extremely conservatistic government.
@TheKamikazeen I dislike communism, because I come from an ex-communist country of the eastern block and i know what kind of disadvantages it can bring. Yes, it's a great idea, but it's unrealistic. Nobody should expect that all people can be equal in an economic way. One can be hardly working, smarter and he must get more than one who is lazy and not that intelligent. It's not normal a surgeon to get exactly the same salary as a road worker, just because they have the same needs.
Nobody should expect that all people can be equal in an economic way?!!!
What a horrible notion! Your views have so many holes in them I find it hard to address them all with the characters limits.
It's not normal for a surgeon to get exactly the same salary as a road worker, just because they have the same needs?.. You do know that "HARD WORKING" people constantly bust their asses for pennies, while a surgeon that removes a mole in 15 min. can sit on his lazy ass the rest of the day, right?
@BourneFreeATL It's all about resposibilities. What would happen if a road worker makes a small mistake and what if a surgeon makes one? Don't get me wrong. I've been working a lot of shitty jobs (i've got such one even now) and i know what i'm talking about. The less reposibilities you have, the harder you gotta work.
@BourneFreeATL I am rather leftish in thinking yet I find the suggesstion that everyone should get equal pay regardless of skill abhorrent.If we lived in a society that paid for your education in the field you chose it might be different but college cost money,ALOT of money.Doctors have to go school for about 7-11 years to get a doctorate so it does make sense that when they get out they would get more money than say someone who went straight to work right away.
@BourneFreeATL Your thinking is narrow. In a resource based economy there would be more doctors and it will be free to learn a doctrate. Doctors get paid far more than a road worker because of the necessity of service, not the actual value of service given. Medical equipment, education cost, even what a patient pays is overpriced due to the blatent scarcity of the occupation. One of a doctors biggest expenses is insurance and other measures he pays to avoid fraudulent greedy patient lawsuits.
@BourneFreeATL i agree. No body is equal to anybody, not even the same person is equal to himself from one day to the next. politicians with the power to determine each citizen's income are no longer public servants. They are public masters.
For those who've joined or wish to join the movement, ZM is currently running a side project--we wish to gather about 25k members to participate in D-Wave's AQUA research project, through BOINC and for science!
BOINC is a volunteer grid computing system that uses your computer to solve problems. Simply put, you can help researchers with your idle CPU
for those who wish to learn more, Google "The Zeitgeist Movement title=BOINC"
Zeitgeist goes against the interest of the financial elite.
If I was the financial Elite I would use my unlimited resource and pay experts to handle this problem
I would hire a PR company to discredit the Zeitgeist movement.
It is only logical to assume that such PR company would use modern tools such as paid bloggers and online commentators to create a counter buzz to TZM supporters.in addition to a smear campaign in the traditional media.
@shahafsagi I am spamming youtube . Zeitgeist members join the BOINC project ! these are some of the reactions i am getting: @kareldezoonvanbennie I'm on it! thanks for bringing BOINC to my attention @kareldezoonvanbennie Done! @kareldezoonvanbennie thanks for posting that. Right on!!!! @kareldezoonvanbennie "ZEITGEIST BOINC PROJECT" What's that ? @kareldezoonvanbennie We are owning the BOINC stats!! Awesome to see the movements collective power :D Spam to ! it works !
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT CITY SO BADLY!!! I feel like if I'm not there in 10 seconds im going to die...PLEASEEE make this thing happen even if its the last thing YOULL EVER DO!!!!!
But the law of nature is consumed or be consumed , it is universal , and humankind is part of it , or what are you to rewrite the nature of lions??? Of plants??? Of sharks ....
@fritigoerd The law of nature in forest maybe but here u dont have to let a human being die simply because he is weeker then u or somebody...Dont be so selfish man same things that u and me feel, also feel all living beings on earth... but still every 5 sec a human being dies from hunger and preventable diseses. Why ? Becaause this world is being run by fucked up ppl and the shit like law of nature that same ppl puted in ur head prevents u from helping them...
For those who've joined or wish to join the movement, ZM is currently running a side project--we wish to gather about 25k members to participate in D-Wave's AQUA research project, through BOINC and for science!
BOINC is a volunteer grid computing system that uses your computer to solve problems. Simply put, you can help researchers with your idle CPU
for those who wish to learn more, Google "The Zeitgeist Movement title=BOINC"
ברור שהאיש הזה הוא אחד הצעדים כי נבואות מתקיימים על המכתב, מי מזהה את קולו של אלוהים ... אנו יודעים כי היא אחת התוכניות של השטן כדי ליצור סדר עולמי חדש על פני האדמה, כדי להכחיש את אלוהותו של ישוע המשיח. עבור אלה אשר הם במשיח ... להיות מוכנים.ישו לא איחרה לבוא, הוא בדלת. תתכונן, תהיה מוכן. לא יודע מתי ה 'מגיע ל הכנסייה שלו.
its basically critical and sensible thinking taking everything into account and looking for the best solution, hes a normal person who cant stand the way society is and wants it to change, no hidden agenda, just human evolution, improvement and longevity.
short clips of Zeitgeist Moving Forward available on my channel. I find I'm getting more people into by showing them small parts - spread these videos all over your facebooks or where-ever else! Some people need their food chewed before they swallow it. Thumbs up to keep this alive! The concept of short clips is so important to guide people in the right direction!!
- It's exactly the way people think. (Mostly) all people on the top want to make profit. If people would be unificated, like ants are, there will be no profit but a "Greater Good". People would just feel harmonious and if that was the case, making a spaceship has no reason to cost anything, for every part of a spaceship is present on the Earth, and there is no greed for anything.
- If president Obama will be diagnosed with aids tomorrow, some country will have the cure within 2 days.
1) T.Z.M. is the ACTIVIST ARM OF T.V.P. The ADVERTISING of TVP got him linked to the con job of T.V.P. and as a fellow ADVERTISER know the scam very well.
2) he has a chance to own a city with Roxanne meadows and you dare insult me with no profits?
3) jacques fresco was recorded in 1974 teaching how to get lots of money by small donation scam based on a big lie but not too big of one to be exposed.
T.V.P. was created that same year and applied this 419 FRAUD tactic! DONATIONS WHERE NEVER NEEDED!
If our school systems weren’t manipulated by the tax-exempt foundations (see Norman Dodds), then this guy wouldn’t have to talk down to us in some condescending manner. This would have been a lesson from 9th grade is it weren’t for corruption. Like a step by step lecture for the people that watch too much TV. China passed us up kids. This guy is just some asshole socialist like the rest. Fuck the world. Give the constitution, my gun, and an honest election. PS FUCK THE PATRIOT ACT & THE FED
click on my name and learn the real Church of Jesus and how it is 1000 fold better than any others AND CAN BE BUILT ANYWHERE to SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS of MANKIND past present future. PLUG AND USE CITIES also permit population sorting, communities as "function" able to go from monetary to non monetary without a problem and in PEACE! TVP and TZM is just a 419 FRAUD that few people noticed was in action since 1975.
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@TheFACTSRUS Tabloid for the Loughners of the world? Maybe Jared was a MKUltra subject! Or, he had help? How convenient that this guy does the wildwest show on a congressperson and an 8 year old that was born on 9/11. If they can pull off the WTC, then they can pull of anything. Can anybody say gun control? Does anybody know what happened to the Posse Comitatus act? Somethin’ fishy. Police state is a come'n This guy is as 1 world Government as HW and his snot nosed brat. Fuck Oboma too.
@TheFACTSRUS Well, yeah. My name is Dustin Roaches...Hello? Surprised you even responded. Maybe you didn't get my point. I didn't get yours. That's why I wrote. I'll reframe from name calling. I did that in 9th grade (1st year cadet.) I was hoping for some elaboration. Why is it tabloid food for whackos? Why is it bullshit? You gave two statements with no point. Me being a sapce cadet isn't a point. It's just name calling. That's what the politicians do when they are cornered. What case?
@DustinRoaches MKULTRA? That was over 40 years ago. Loughner was an unhinged loon. His problems came from within his head. No one is to blame, but him.
@TheFACTSRUS To think they stopped mind fucking people is naive. Just the name died 40 years ago. If you heard it on the news, it's a lie. The media is brainwash within itself. Americans are obtuse. They still think Oswald did it regardless of visual frontal shots. They think airplanes made buildings fall in the path of most resistance. My point: Don't steer. Don't assume. The only loons are watching network news & AP press. State questions instead of answers. You don't have the facts.
it is called 419 FRAUD and it is about using free advertising to reach VICTIMS with LIES in order to gain money and LAND.
The donations were never needed from day one.
The movies cost next to nothing but faked to cost lots even major motion Picture is a scam Movie costing nothing with cannon pen type home clips and still no future and just hate and propaganda to scare victims in. The Church of Jesus gives the PROOF! Click on my name LEARN, Plan, BUILD! TVP and TZM get nothing
I just got a mental image of nobody ever having to work for food because it would be free and available to all. If that ever comes to pass in the future, those people will think it's totally normal - of course everybody can eat.
His point is always run to make donations for zland that is the scam to steal all the donations! it becomes his land not the memebrs so 30 million is worth all the lies and scam weffort to NOT BLAME OVERPOPULATION AND ASK WE REDUCE OUR NUMBERS VIA REWARD SYSTEM IN PEACE! They say make more babies and tech will pass and solve as it can't keep up now but could if we were only 3 billion and can if we were smart wise 5.5 billion!
No dummy it is the reverse ONLY 70 people out of so many fools came saw the lies and errors and knew the ways of con artists and seeing it clearly left a thumbs down or did not even vote and left like seeing shit and avoid touching or smelling it.
Zland scam to steal 30 million is nothing small and maybe he police should look into who will own the zland if not Peter Jacques and Roxanne and Jacques dies soon so just peter and Roxanne with 30 million bucks and making tourist cash!
Hello family, remember that PJ uses the words: gradual, "in time", eventually, etc this is not an overnight thing. And also remember that as JF has said "The Venus Project" first & foremost is a 'way of thinking' so as your 'way of thinking' continues to change, your actions to stop feeding the money system will follow. People must grow into these ideas, they don't come right away. Keep moving' forward little bros & sis's
he uses word to make maximum money and longest scam possible! I teach build this and save lives better than they ever dreamed of..and it is free!!! You can build NOW not when money fails or when 30 million goal is reached in the scam! Z land ownership is what all this is about!
who owns the donations and who owns the things the donations get! they say they do! i say Humanity does and members have the say NOT the founders! they get nothing of money or land!!!! they do not have the right
You are singing the T.V.P. and T.Z.M. theme song! Just add Give us donations even if we don't need it and we are millionaires with donation Boxes Millionaires with donation boxes.... 419 419 Fraud pays well with 1/5 million victims and many in the 35 years of all this! Old ladies with cash Millionaires with bundles But Saudi Arabian Billionaires stay away it is like KKK round Venus around my Venus Home oooooh blame 911 i say NO!
Greed destroys these things, the worst in human nature.
To blame something inert like money is bad enough, its even worse to blame a Dr. for current medical problems. Its the system set up within these environments that needs to change, try not throwing the baby out with the bath water...just a thought.
Wow, I would love this kind of change:) excellent,totally awesome.
patrickisready 5 days ago
Dr. Ron Paul's kung-fu is strong.
WeThePeopleVStheNWO 1 month ago in playlist Zeitgiest
I'm RACIST for criticizing Obama.
TERRORIST because I'm not with Bush.
ANTISEMITIC for not supporting Rothechild Zionism.
TEABAGGER for supporting the Constitution.
TRUTH-ER for asking unanswered questions.
TRAITOR for whistle-blowing on my corrupt Government.
CONSPIRACY THEORIST for presenting documented facts.
TROLL for uploading news, videos, quotes and U.S.Atrocities.
ANTI-AMERICAN for supporting Constitutionalists like Dr. Ron Paul.
RON PAUL 2012!
WeThePeopleVStheNWO 1 month ago in playlist Zeitgiest
@WeThePeopleVStheNWO You can said all of that with one word, IDIOT.
theoldgoose1 1 month ago
@WeThePeopleVStheNWO You are not Anti-American by supporting a presidential candidate... Your not the smartest little activist in the world, but none the less.
UNVPnZ 1 day ago
People are just stupid and lazy, and vote for politicians promising them simple solutions to complex problems. There is no conspiracy, other than to make a FRIGGIN LOT OF MONEY!!! They are greedy - yes greed can make people evil.
tacomadc 1 month ago
This is the New World Order, Its End Of World, Its The Rapture, It means god is coming back, Talks exactly about this in the bible, Its all coming to an end! They will have to kill me, I will be a Free christian or I will Die, Zeitgeist is brought to you by none other- Anti Christ
joecamp83 1 month ago
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Some people seem to think that Zeitgeist Google is not related to the Zeitgeist movement. If they say they are not connected it is a simply way of bringing attention to the word "ZEITGEIST" so that they can bring attention to the movement without being "associated" with the movement.
This is just like my purpose in life right now, which is to bring attention to the word "MAJORMIGRAINE"
TheMajorMigraine 3 months ago
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biotechturetraining 3 months ago
I dislike it for it being boring, redundant, and stupid.
I mean, of course everything that we own today breaks so quickly; everyone doesn't take care of their stuff! If you buy somthing that is cheap, it will be what its worth, nothing. Companies make high quility products, you just have to pay for it. It's not their fault everyone is so cheap.
RoXHavoc 4 months ago
@RoXHavoc It's not a matter of being cheap. Most people just can't afford the products and services that would make our society benevolent for everyone. Who's fault is that?
pantheon777 4 months ago
@RoXHavoc Actuall,y yeah it is their fucking fault and it's also your fault for continuing to enable the establishment. The only things in our way of making a sustainable resource based economy are the naysayers on both sides, and the do-nothing obstructionists...aka: plagues on humanity known as the Right.
XdoobysnacksX 3 months ago
@RoXHavoc...It is horrible that you feel a person themselves are considered "cheap"
miekabon 3 months ago
I honestly can't understand how anyone could "dislike" this video if they are actually educated and informed about the reality of our human condition, ie not what Fox News is selling.
Jemino870 4 months ago 5
Boom! 53:38 -- "Any SCARE resource ...?" I think you mean SCARCE, my good man. I finally found a problem with this proposal. I win.
andruandspanky 5 months ago
As long as we allow a monetary policy, we will allow further detriment to our society through greed and corruption. We could take it all away, and allow ourselves true freedom, true opportunity through individual accomplishment, and true equality.
UltraVert 5 months ago
Geez, fuck Macro 101, I learned more from this video than I have in the whole class!
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nomadazm 5 months ago
i see most people are worried about being "controlled" the reality is we are all controlled by the environment we live in and a lot of our environment is made by man so the question is do want to be controlled by the tyrants and robbers, by accident or by ourselves with intelligent design?
27madone 6 months ago 2
@27madone Very true... let us remember that "none are so hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - J W Goethe
Jemino870 4 months ago
This is a very intuitive philosophy about how to make life better. Mr. Fresco is an awesome visionary with solid and intelligent views.
blain147 7 months ago
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esca8652 8 months ago
1984
618529277 8 months ago
the problem is the human heart; because of the fear of non-being, we do the evil thing. The only answer is the Gospel of Jesus, that offers the transfiguration of the human heart, and places the individual in a new Social Order, the Church, that, in the return of Christ, will bring forth a transfigured world. It is delusional to think we can do it on our own. It is ignoring the entirety of human history.
ozarkdox 8 months ago
i'm recommending a facebook page: 1,000,000 people for Peter Joseph on Real Time with Bill Maher
hopefully we can get the word out!
vinbuik 8 months ago 6
so logical and beatiful - we must communicate it to all people as soon as possible and where they resist -we must use understanding and knowledge to overcome - if we fail we will suffer economic colapse and enviromental colapse and possible human extinction - am am both encouraged by the solutions and discouraged by the resistance to them - i hope we are able to come togehter around these ideas
MrIzzyDizzy 9 months ago 17
@MrIzzyDizzy indeed my friend. indeed.
RevolutionaryCat11 5 months ago
weither we like it or not the natural law of nature is going to lead us to a society that is not based on money , the present system cannot be sustained and brings out the worst in mankind , the only positives is the incentive to be creative but this benefit is eroded away by the----- at any cost to humans and the planet to achieve these goals . Temp solution is to limit population , have 1 citizen advice beareau to also remove money from the system and guide us to resolve resulting issues
mastermoves5 9 months ago 12
@mastermoves5 according to jauqes fresco just education would limit population and i agree nothing would have to be implemented. people would understand birthcontrol and ecology and resource management very well and bam almost no unplanned pregnancies
stalkingcat123 8 months ago
@mastermoves5 Amen to that! You said it brother!
esca8652 7 months ago
The Internet is a miniature version of what TZM proposes. You have a task you want to complete but don't know how. What does everyone do. Google it! You type in what it is you want to know, you are then given the best answers available. the answers are just collaborations of information real people have submitted from there own use of the scientific method. Wikipedia is another example of this currently working in the real world.
anrchyx 9 months ago 4
@aivoetf our power is measurable. And we are already doing what you propose we shouldn't. Computers are replacing mundane tasks so that we can focus our abilities even further. Otherwise progression would be slow. The exhaust on your car is designed using computer software that calculates the best possible flow using the parameters we input. The only difference is it isn't buildin it for us yet.
anrchyx 9 months ago
@Aivoetf and anyone else who thinks computers can retaliate like some cybord fantacy movie. A computer can only function within it's perameters of what it has been built and instructed to function as, similar to how a man cannot live under water. Automating our relationship to the planet will greatly reverse the damage we have done, but if we don't consider a move in the direction of altruism then it's likely the laws of nature will automatically and naturally kick us OUT. Face it.
getbrain9 9 months ago
I do not worship a Sun God, yet also am not a Socialist. I do not beleive in central planning. This Zeitgeist Movement is shepherding me just like all other movements and systems. They start by giving you a little bit of truth, but then lead you back into your cage. This is half-assed futurism blended with socialism. Not For Me!
JasonDamisch 9 months ago
@JasonDamisch not even close
stalkingcat123 8 months ago
LoL! We give decision making to computers, because they are more efficient. And then they will decide that humans are useless and obsolete. Not a good idea. Maybe if we humans just focus on our mind for once? Lets change ourselves and rely less on machines. Or we will lose sight of why we want machines in the first place, to help us.
aivoetf 9 months ago
@aivoetf heh what? You obviously dont truly understand. Computers arent going to have the mental capabilities that humans do. and it isnt decision making that is being given to computers in TZM It's like a calculator they will calculate the most efficient means of completing a task. So what you are pretty much saying is that humans ARE useless and obsolete. Who are you to decide such a thing? Did you coming to that conclusion have an impact on human existence? no either would it if computers did
anrchyx 9 months ago
@anrchyx What im saying, in my usual gross manner, is that this video suggests we completely rely on machines/others. It also overlooks our human nature of wisdom. We are powerful beyond measure. The material and global problems we have can all be resolved if we were united and still had personal freedom and determination. We should never give our power away. Thats why we should not depend on other powers. We need to be self reliant. Wisdom and true perception can save us from dangers. Peace!
aivoetf 9 months ago 2
So many things in this video I agree with. The idea itself is wonderful, however saying all of our problems are technical and the answer is to have a computer make decisions for us shows a lack of understanding of who we really are and what we are capable of. It sounds like he is trying to hand the power over to machines to save us? Our greatest gift is free will, problematic as it is, it is the essence of our learning & development as a species. Innovative, thought provoking but many holes....
hz321go 9 months ago
we have the capability, what we dont have is the momentum,,,,,,doesnt matter in the long run, for those that just sit by and wait for the awesome possibility of our potential, as it does from those that act upon the need for a better idea of choosing for ourselves how it is that we want to live........."it" can only happen due to those that have taken the the moment that they are in to say that " i think it can be better".......at that moment, we say "yes"
RanthalassThanosan 10 months ago
The term and meaning of a Resource-Based Economy was originated by Jacque Fresco.
JaminStocker 10 months ago
82 people needs to go back to gr 1
lom68 10 months ago
@lom68
I disagree! They should go back to the kindergarden.
meis 10 months ago
how do i download this i need to pass it out ?
thanks
655Robert 10 months ago
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meis 10 months ago
It seems that the some Arabs have saw all three movies and ware smart enough to free them self in their countries from their dictators…
stamstuff 11 months ago
@stamstuff
Well what about this country?
GTpanik 10 months ago
@GTpanik exactly what i mean!!!
stamstuff 10 months ago
Lol this is not a place for devil worshipping. That is a vile conspiracy theory...
markusboyd3 11 months ago
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A moneyless collectivist "utopia" (yes, this is collectivist at its core) will never be the answer to mankind's troubles. It's true, our money is created and loaned to the govt. by evil banksters, but the answer is to go back to what has worked in the past, which is government created DEBT-FREE money.
Andrew Jackson did it, and was nearly killed for it. Lincoln did it, and was killed for it. Garfield and JFK started to do it, and were killed for it.
See "The Secret of Oz" in my favorites.
BRYAN351 11 months ago
Venus project is a Luciferian project, Zeitgeist and Venus project are in reality runs by the Rothschilds familly. They use conspiracy tools in order to fool people.
Take care, illuminati have created this project using Jaque Fresco as a puppet to build the artificial paradise of the antichrist (see Brave New World).
You should know that only God can create the real paradise.
Please investigate seriousely, the Illuminati are controlling everything !
NeoGabriel08 11 months ago
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@NeoGabriel08 Where is your evidence?
Ensignguff 11 months ago
@NeoGabriel08 I think that YOU are run by the Rothchilds, spreading lies and fear like only luciferians can do. You are the puppet spreading hate and evil. You are the one being controlled. And for all you know, Fresco is sent by your God to help mankind build a new paradise...
SaneJohn 11 months ago
@SaneJohn
Please google :
David de Rothschild at Zeitgeist Europe 2007
NeoGabriel08 10 months ago
@NeoGabriel08 That was not an event that was held by The Zeitgeist Movement. Names don't necessarily correspond.
jrmyster 3 months ago
Hey all,bet ya didn't know The Zeitgeist/Venus Project has United Nations connections,hmm?...we are ALL searching for answers as to why the world is on the brink of _______(fill in your blank "problem") in these trying times.But waiting(or expecting) for some collective movement's answers to all our problems with a seemingly good idea is folly.Following said movements ideas blindly is dangerous.Tread with caution Zeitgeisters and view "Zeitgeist :3 Moving Forward - Exposed [HQ]" here on youtube.
kenchun24 1 year ago
I defiantly agree money is our greatest problem but if there is no money then nobody would work surely?
2287sally 1 year ago
@2287sally
This is not true.
If you take a look at the total man-hours of volunteer work in the united states, you will see that more people volunteer than would even be needed to run a Resource-Based Economy.
"26.3 percent for the year ending in September 2010, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today."
- Quote directly from US statistics website, first line, first paragraph
Also, because people will do what they want to in an RBE, even more volunteers will be at hand.
Anubis7169 11 months ago
@BourneFreeATL You do however have a point about road workers.I always thought that our consideration for what we pay highly for should be expanded.Right now we pay highly for things that either require a lot of skill or thinking / and or it carries alot of responsibiblity.But noone really thinks about the scarcity of finding people that are willing and capable of doing hard work.The idea is anyone can do it... but I think you will find that everyone CAN'T do it and pay should reflect that.
gamesmaster35 1 year ago
is the zeitgiest movement vegan?
wakenbake22 1 year ago
@wakenbake22
The Zeitgeist Movement promotes personal freedom in all forms.
If this means if You wish to be a vegan, then you can be a vegan. If you dont want to be a vegan, you dont have to be.
Livestock (if you're wondering) will be maintained by those who like livestock. If you want to eat meat, then ask someone who has livestock.
This also means no livestock will be killed, unless there is someone that is going to eat them (which is more humane than the current system)
:)
Anubis7169 11 months ago
@Anubis7169 thanks for the info
wakenbake22 11 months ago
Im too damn lazy to actually watch the video, could someone just tell me the difference between communism and the zeitgeist movement?
just curious.
kargaethas 1 year ago
@kargaethas Basicly they both want to build up "paradise" on earth (without God), relying on humans' good will, ignoring and actually banning our weaknesses, like egoism, greediness, pride etc. You want to make more money and buy a Ferrari? That's not gonna happen.
1. You're not allowed to make more money
2. There is no such brand as Ferrari any more
All you need is water, food, home and a Moskvich. Get used to it.
emetz44 1 year ago
@emetz44
Wait, banning?
How does a resource-based economy ban something, if it's main position is that humans dont need laws?
Sorry, but this is strawman
Anubis7169 11 months ago
@emetz44
Actually in an RBE, robots could build you a replica Ferrari if someone has programmed them to. (which is very possible) Or the computer system might suggest you build a better, faster and safer car, than a ferrari. Of course the end decision comes down to you, the individual.
Also, there's no need to "make more money" when everything is available to you without a price-tag.
Anubis7169 11 months ago
@Anubis7169 I hope you realize that almost all the humanity will want a Ferrari if it's that easy to get it. But humans are weak, greedy. We'll want not just one, but may be two, three or even four different models of that car. So tell me, will the resources satisfy such "needs"? Not for a long time. In a Ferrari you have some rare materials. So here comes someone and tells us: you can't have more than one car, because that's all you need. That's what i mean by "banning our weaknesses".
emetz44 11 months ago
@emetz44 I seriously doubt that if high-end products are available at zero cost and total convenience for everyone, people will want tons of them for.. I don't know.. "keeping"? You can have as many cars as you want, but with the availability that is proposed by Zeitgeist it won't mean anything to anyone. It will be easier for you to use things on a need-to basis rather than on a status enhancer basis. Collecting free Ferraris is no cooler than collecting used chewing gums.
windextube 11 months ago
@windextube My friend, the movie shows us actually a pure communist solution of the problem: no private property. This idea is so catastrophicly wrong, that i've no clue how did the makers took it seriously. Zeitgeist presents some idealistic views about the world and strong believe in the humans good side, totally ignoring our bad side. That's naive. A coin has two sides and you can't pretend that it's not true.
emetz44 11 months ago
@emetz44 yeah pointing out just one point of the whole concept and making it communistic by that. I think that is more naive than saying all the bad things such as robberies and violence which are basically results of the capitalistic monetary enviroment would also happen in an enviroment in whicht they wouldn't have any basis. Violence was historically always an result of scarcity of recources or supersticions. You want proof? What about the ammish or the indian culture before columbus?
Scatty16 11 months ago
@emetz44 The amish people are pacifistic people who would rather go to prison than participatin in a war. What basis for the "bad side" would there be in the social concept Jacque Fresco is introducing. Before you star arguing about mental illnesses causing violence. Such mental illnesses are mostly caused by events in the childhood of the person which were clearly abusive like domestic violence. Again what basis would such an mental illness have in such an society.
Scatty16 11 months ago
@emetz44 Just saying something always has two sides is simply not true. What is the bad side on you breathing air? But what are exactly your critic points. Why would such an society fail? Please tell me your point of view and explain it in detail what would be the error and not just telling it would fail because it is communistic and idealistic. These two are just supersticions.
Scatty16 11 months ago
@windextube Well said...and that's exactly what some people have a hard time understanding. What good is possessing a fleet of cars? You can only drive one and the rest gather dust...bragging rights? What's there to 'brag about'? The idea that you can be moronic buying more then one car? Two cars is understandable enough, in case one breaks down, but more then two?...why? The make and model is irrelevant...brand name vehicles break down and I'd acquire a Honda before a Ferrari, easier to fix.
mdlittle5466 11 months ago
@emetz44 So why would everybody need to have an ferrari. Oh yeah it is fast! But wait what about the magnetic trains that are technically possible to build today(!) that would be way faster thand a ferri. Okay but the ferrari is a simbol of status. Hm what status would you need in a society where everybody is treated equaly? Social status wouldn't exist. What need would there be for an outdated peace of technology? Do you have the need for an campingfire every day or do you have an oven?
Scatty16 11 months ago
@emetz44 I am asking my self if you really watched the whole move and really thought about it?
Scatty16 11 months ago
@kargaethas They are making the same mistakes communists made.They are talking about an idealistic society with some super cool technology (its magic currently because said tech doesn't exist yet). They are also saying that selfishness isn't a natural human trait.We can only see and feel what our own body feels while we don't feel what others feel, So we are more likely to do things good for ourselves and our own feelings which are the only real feelings to each one of us. Selfishness is born.
orobasd 11 months ago
@orobasd Please do not append the fallacy of reasoning believing this has anything to do with 'communism' as such a monetary economic system was doomed for failure. The Zietgeist Movement is seeking to resolve the problem by eliminating the cause...currency. Please review this video once more and understand this...the technology you think does not exist - does. Peace be with you.
mdlittle5466 11 months ago
@mdlittle5466 There is no fallacy, Communists thought the technology Marx was talking about was available, You are making a similar mistake. we currently don't have the technology to create everything all people need in abundance. For two reasons, One is our tech in itself, The other is education. People aren't just ready to live in a sustainable way. Educating them and changing their views will take many years. The idea in itself is good but it's just too early but keep on trying.
orobasd 11 months ago
@orobasd You're applying generalizations which does not bode well for your standpoint. Technology is not as foriegn to most people as you would believe. Almost every person on the planet is familiar with the internet, cell phones and personal computers. Education is just a keystroke away...eliminating the 'basic requirements' established by colleges and focus more on the core material studied would reduce education time phenomenally. It's not too early, in truth...this is long past due...
mdlittle5466 11 months ago
@mdlittle5466 You're overestimating people. I may be proven wrong , I hope so, But i think the current generation is way too corrupted by illogic to accept any form of logic. Look at all the devil/jesus comments. Education a keystroke away ? Only a small minority use the internet for educating themselves. There is enough knowledge available on the net to become an expert on any subject within a short time. But most people prefer browsing for porn , celebs and things that are utterly useless.
orobasd 11 months ago
@orobasd The people of South Africa as well as South America are gaining access to the internet and they're not all 'using it for porn'. Some are educating themselves in trades such as electronics and computer programming that the current monetary system denies them. This is essentially what the Zietgeist Movement has been perpetuating...and it's becoming a reality. "The only price for knowledge is time, appending any other additional value...is extortion".
mdlittle5466 11 months ago
@notjam3 surprised that none of that religion, 9/11 stuff is relevant to the movemenet anymore, yet people seem to think it is :)
onetwentysecs 1 year ago
The big problem is "how the fuck do you make anyone do anything without giving them money?".
TheKamikazeen 1 year ago
Did u agree with JFK, RON PAUL is the New JFK so vote 4 him 2012.
Who u vote for next elec will determan your kids furture and your kids kids so do the right things RON PAUL
beyondbelief360 1 year ago
I have heard of this,this is apparently a movement based on the basis that are governmnent are corrupt or are profit based.First why are the leaders in power.I believe it to be because most are caring people who care about their country and their people. Their have been corrupt governments but which has proven to be the greater. Does good almost always prevails.Is any system perfect or any one of us who can rule perfectly.Are we not all provided for.Gratitude is virtue worth considering.
TheBobbij 1 year ago
@TheBobbij
What prevails is ensuring the continuation of power for the people in power. Regardless of what negative or positive effects this might cause this is usually the case. And unfortunately money tends to lead people in power to have a more negative effect on the environment of many others. This does not have to be so.
The system proposed is not perfect, just a lot better than what we have right now.
FuManBoobs 1 year ago
This is almost pure communism. Check out the fundaments of communism and compare them to what is here presented.
emetz44 1 year ago
@emetz44 Equivocation is a logical fallacy. The ends are similar, the means are different.
cogar48 1 year ago
@cogar48 Nobody has the right to take away the right of people to be bad. It's all about freedom of choice. We also make wrong decisions in purpose, right? Every day. But nobody comes to us and tells us: "hey people, u'r sooo bad". If we all realize the advantages of resource based economics, than sure we can do it. But please, don't go for the revolution. It has to be evolutionary change of politics view.
emetz44 1 year ago
@emetz44
There is no freedom of choice. You can only choose from certain parameters within your particular society or culture. If something is not presented to you as a choice or as information some way then you can not possibly choose it.
FuManBoobs 1 year ago
@FuManBoobs That's true and that's why i support the idea of resource based economy, which should be presented to the sociaty as an option, not as a forcing. Than people should make their own choice: do they want to be slaves in the current monetary system or do they want to build up an ethical and efficient new economic, without breaking the columns of democracy.
emetz44 1 year ago
@emetz44
Yes, but if we do not decide on a resource based economy then it could well lead to our end. So that is a forceful way, not by us but by nature.
FuManBoobs 1 year ago
@FuManBoobs Nope. We will decide to "kill ourselves", by choosing the monetary system. As a matter of fact, only humans are capable of suicide, which is another example of our free will. We must make difference between freedom of choice and the irreversible consequences of making a choice.
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BourneFreeATL 1 year ago
@emetz44 What does it matter if it is communism or conservatism? you only dislike communism because your government does. These are purely awesome ideas, you've just been influenced badly by your extremely conservatistic government.
TheKamikazeen 1 year ago
@TheKamikazeen I dislike communism, because I come from an ex-communist country of the eastern block and i know what kind of disadvantages it can bring. Yes, it's a great idea, but it's unrealistic. Nobody should expect that all people can be equal in an economic way. One can be hardly working, smarter and he must get more than one who is lazy and not that intelligent. It's not normal a surgeon to get exactly the same salary as a road worker, just because they have the same needs.
emetz44 1 year ago
Nobody should expect that all people can be equal in an economic way?!!!
What a horrible notion! Your views have so many holes in them I find it hard to address them all with the characters limits.
It's not normal for a surgeon to get exactly the same salary as a road worker, just because they have the same needs?.. You do know that "HARD WORKING" people constantly bust their asses for pennies, while a surgeon that removes a mole in 15 min. can sit on his lazy ass the rest of the day, right?
BourneFreeATL 1 year ago
@BourneFreeATL It's all about resposibilities. What would happen if a road worker makes a small mistake and what if a surgeon makes one? Don't get me wrong. I've been working a lot of shitty jobs (i've got such one even now) and i know what i'm talking about. The less reposibilities you have, the harder you gotta work.
emetz44 1 year ago
@BourneFreeATL I am rather leftish in thinking yet I find the suggesstion that everyone should get equal pay regardless of skill abhorrent.If we lived in a society that paid for your education in the field you chose it might be different but college cost money,ALOT of money.Doctors have to go school for about 7-11 years to get a doctorate so it does make sense that when they get out they would get more money than say someone who went straight to work right away.
gamesmaster35 1 year ago
@BourneFreeATL Your thinking is narrow. In a resource based economy there would be more doctors and it will be free to learn a doctrate. Doctors get paid far more than a road worker because of the necessity of service, not the actual value of service given. Medical equipment, education cost, even what a patient pays is overpriced due to the blatent scarcity of the occupation. One of a doctors biggest expenses is insurance and other measures he pays to avoid fraudulent greedy patient lawsuits.
s8nsK405 1 year ago
@BourneFreeATL i agree. No body is equal to anybody, not even the same person is equal to himself from one day to the next. politicians with the power to determine each citizen's income are no longer public servants. They are public masters.
tatsumakisempyukaku 10 months ago
@tatsumakisempyukaku Wellsaid
BourneFreeATL 10 months ago
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For those who've joined or wish to join the movement, ZM is currently running a side project--we wish to gather about 25k members to participate in D-Wave's AQUA research project, through BOINC and for science!
BOINC is a volunteer grid computing system that uses your computer to solve problems. Simply put, you can help researchers with your idle CPU
for those who wish to learn more, Google "The Zeitgeist Movement title=BOINC"
kareldezoonvanbennie 1 year ago
Zeitgeist goes against the interest of the financial elite.
If I was the financial Elite I would use my unlimited resource and pay experts to handle this problem
I would hire a PR company to discredit the Zeitgeist movement.
It is only logical to assume that such PR company would use modern tools such as paid bloggers and online commentators to create a counter buzz to TZM supporters.in addition to a smear campaign in the traditional media.
that's what I would do if I wanted to shut TZM up
osamabinhex 1 year ago
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kareldezoonvanbennie 1 year ago
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT CITY SO BADLY!!! I feel like if I'm not there in 10 seconds im going to die...PLEASEEE make this thing happen even if its the last thing YOULL EVER DO!!!!!
shahafsagi 1 year ago
But the law of nature is consumed or be consumed , it is universal , and humankind is part of it , or what are you to rewrite the nature of lions??? Of plants??? Of sharks ....
fritigoerd 1 year ago
@fritigoerd The law of nature in forest maybe but here u dont have to let a human being die simply because he is weeker then u or somebody...Dont be so selfish man same things that u and me feel, also feel all living beings on earth... but still every 5 sec a human being dies from hunger and preventable diseses. Why ? Becaause this world is being run by fucked up ppl and the shit like law of nature that same ppl puted in ur head prevents u from helping them...
n1ikola6 1 year ago 2
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For those who've joined or wish to join the movement, ZM is currently running a side project--we wish to gather about 25k members to participate in D-Wave's AQUA research project, through BOINC and for science!
BOINC is a volunteer grid computing system that uses your computer to solve problems. Simply put, you can help researchers with your idle CPU
for those who wish to learn more, Google "The Zeitgeist Movement title=BOINC"
Buybuffalo2 1 year ago
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TO THE ZEITGEIST MEMBERS :
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WE NEED TO CONTRIBUTE TOGETHER TO BUILD A SUPER QUANTUM COMPUTER :p
kareldezoonvanbennie 1 year ago
@notjam3 Search for: Paranoid delusional.
BabySatch1 1 year ago
ברור שהאיש הזה הוא אחד הצעדים כי נבואות מתקיימים על המכתב, מי מזהה את קולו של אלוהים ... אנו יודעים כי היא אחת התוכניות של השטן כדי ליצור סדר עולמי חדש על פני האדמה, כדי להכחיש את אלוהותו של ישוע המשיח. עבור אלה אשר הם במשיח ... להיות מוכנים.ישו לא איחרה לבוא, הוא בדלת. תתכונן, תהיה מוכן. לא יודע מתי ה 'מגיע ל הכנסייה שלו.
DjMarMex 1 year ago
@notjam3 No, I haven't. Thanks. Checking it out now.
Is this 'challenge' theists V's atheists? Or is it on the credibility of the information portrayed in the 1st section of the 1st movie?
fridaytieday 1 year ago
This makes to much sense
innHD 1 year ago
Peter is actually in debt now for making his last film. Talk about determined. I love him. <3
holonat 1 year ago
its basically critical and sensible thinking taking everything into account and looking for the best solution, hes a normal person who cant stand the way society is and wants it to change, no hidden agenda, just human evolution, improvement and longevity.
UnDermynes 1 year ago
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tylershoemakeri 1 year ago
/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
Zeitgeist: MOVING FORWARD is out! Spread the word so we can preserve our planet!
killie232 1 year ago 4
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@killie232 Good movie if you can get past the first hour
JustinPaulOnline 1 year ago
If 1 hundred thousand people get 10 people to watch this video, that's 1 million.
If 1 million people get 10 people, that's 10 million.
If 10 million get 10 people, that's 100 million.
If 100 million get 10, it's a billion.
Make it your mission to make 10 people watch this. Don't stop until you find 10 who do watch it.
It won't take long. We can change the world!
Peace :)
masgeo 1 year ago 19
- It's exactly the way people think. (Mostly) all people on the top want to make profit. If people would be unificated, like ants are, there will be no profit but a "Greater Good". People would just feel harmonious and if that was the case, making a spaceship has no reason to cost anything, for every part of a spaceship is present on the Earth, and there is no greed for anything.
- If president Obama will be diagnosed with aids tomorrow, some country will have the cure within 2 days.
- Aliens!
Hiijonguh 1 year ago
Good to see some comments actually worth reading for once.
Perilous3D 1 year ago 6
dame this guy knows his information.......
vicdarapper 1 year ago 2
1) T.Z.M. is the ACTIVIST ARM OF T.V.P. The ADVERTISING of TVP got him linked to the con job of T.V.P. and as a fellow ADVERTISER know the scam very well.
2) he has a chance to own a city with Roxanne meadows and you dare insult me with no profits?
3) jacques fresco was recorded in 1974 teaching how to get lots of money by small donation scam based on a big lie but not too big of one to be exposed.
T.V.P. was created that same year and applied this 419 FRAUD tactic! DONATIONS WHERE NEVER NEEDED!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
If our school systems weren’t manipulated by the tax-exempt foundations (see Norman Dodds), then this guy wouldn’t have to talk down to us in some condescending manner. This would have been a lesson from 9th grade is it weren’t for corruption. Like a step by step lecture for the people that watch too much TV. China passed us up kids. This guy is just some asshole socialist like the rest. Fuck the world. Give the constitution, my gun, and an honest election. PS FUCK THE PATRIOT ACT & THE FED
DustinRoaches 1 year ago
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@DustinRoaches
Schools? Taxes? ape talk!!!!!
click on my name and learn the real Church of Jesus and how it is 1000 fold better than any others AND CAN BE BUILT ANYWHERE to SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS of MANKIND past present future. PLUG AND USE CITIES also permit population sorting, communities as "function" able to go from monetary to non monetary without a problem and in PEACE! TVP and TZM is just a 419 FRAUD that few people noticed was in action since 1975.
Just click on my name
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
No sure what your point is.
DustinRoaches 1 year ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
How many of Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth's 1600+ architectural and engineering professionals have experience in structural engineering, high rise construction, or controlled demolition?
What did Hani Hanjour’s flight instructors have to say about his flying ability?
Who was Ali Mohamed and what is his relationship with Osama Bin Laden and the CIA?
ctcole77 2 months ago
More tabloid pablum for the Jared Loughners of the world. What bullshit!
TheFACTSRUS 1 year ago
@TheFACTSRUS Tabloid for the Loughners of the world? Maybe Jared was a MKUltra subject! Or, he had help? How convenient that this guy does the wildwest show on a congressperson and an 8 year old that was born on 9/11. If they can pull off the WTC, then they can pull of anything. Can anybody say gun control? Does anybody know what happened to the Posse Comitatus act? Somethin’ fishy. Police state is a come'n This guy is as 1 world Government as HW and his snot nosed brat. Fuck Oboma too.
DustinRoaches 1 year ago
@DustinRoaches I rest my case. What a fuckin space cadet you are.
TheFACTSRUS 1 year ago
@TheFACTSRUS Well, yeah. My name is Dustin Roaches...Hello? Surprised you even responded. Maybe you didn't get my point. I didn't get yours. That's why I wrote. I'll reframe from name calling. I did that in 9th grade (1st year cadet.) I was hoping for some elaboration. Why is it tabloid food for whackos? Why is it bullshit? You gave two statements with no point. Me being a sapce cadet isn't a point. It's just name calling. That's what the politicians do when they are cornered. What case?
DustinRoaches 1 year ago
@DustinRoaches MKULTRA? That was over 40 years ago. Loughner was an unhinged loon. His problems came from within his head. No one is to blame, but him.
TheFACTSRUS 1 year ago
@TheFACTSRUS To think they stopped mind fucking people is naive. Just the name died 40 years ago. If you heard it on the news, it's a lie. The media is brainwash within itself. Americans are obtuse. They still think Oswald did it regardless of visual frontal shots. They think airplanes made buildings fall in the path of most resistance. My point: Don't steer. Don't assume. The only loons are watching network news & AP press. State questions instead of answers. You don't have the facts.
DustinRoaches 1 year ago
@DustinRoaches
The good questions like...
Why is the research center a copy of EPCOT and so was TVP theme park and world fair?
Why did Jacques fresco cheat his members of land and building to make a love nest for Roxanne and him?
Why ask donations when you are rich and need not a dime from anyone to make movie maker clips for 2 movies! Major motion Picture with a cannon pen??
Z land not in cyberspace?
................Click on my name
Build IT! WIN! FREE FROM THE CHURCH OF JESUS.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
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DustinRoaches 1 year ago
@DustinRoaches
it is called 419 FRAUD and it is about using free advertising to reach VICTIMS with LIES in order to gain money and LAND.
The donations were never needed from day one.
The movies cost next to nothing but faked to cost lots even major motion Picture is a scam Movie costing nothing with cannon pen type home clips and still no future and just hate and propaganda to scare victims in. The Church of Jesus gives the PROOF! Click on my name LEARN, Plan, BUILD! TVP and TZM get nothing
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Garbage
1ethiopialove 1 year ago
Wake up people! This shite is real!!
gunnerconway 1 year ago
GO C NEW WEST ORDER AND DECEVIO ON YOUTUBE 2012 PHAROH
decevioj 1 year ago
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decevioj 1 year ago
I just got a mental image of nobody ever having to work for food because it would be free and available to all. If that ever comes to pass in the future, those people will think it's totally normal - of course everybody can eat.
ammusi 1 year ago
Why would anyone want to watch nearly 2 hours of this. It's just kind of boring. I didn't make it past the first 5 minutes.
mikerosoft2004 1 year ago
@mikerosoft2004 I'd urge you to try it again. Grab a beer, have a seat, and just listen.
skinnyc1soccer 1 year ago
@mikerosoft2004
Use that mind you've been blessed with to understand the world you live in... THINK!! It's that mindset that allows bad ideas to flourish...
PenaPepper 1 year ago
@mikerosoft2004 That's what you get for eating McDonald's ...no brain cells. :(
gunnerconway 1 year ago
I just want to know, how would our resources be distributed to each individual in a resource-based economy?
TheKamikazeen 1 year ago
is possible to block peterwhitlock?
focista6 1 year ago
PDF version: scribd. com/doc/12852942/The-Zeitgeist-Movement
abemore 1 year ago
THIS GUY FOR PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD
CigarelloznDrank 1 year ago
@CigarelloznDrank ..i thought his point was that politics dont work.
MrHooLee 1 year ago
@MrHooLee
His point is always run to make donations for zland that is the scam to steal all the donations! it becomes his land not the memebrs so 30 million is worth all the lies and scam weffort to NOT BLAME OVERPOPULATION AND ASK WE REDUCE OUR NUMBERS VIA REWARD SYSTEM IN PEACE! They say make more babies and tech will pass and solve as it can't keep up now but could if we were only 3 billion and can if we were smart wise 5.5 billion!
Not money or politics but POPULATION GROWTH!
ZERO growth!!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
*And has no reason and does not care for riches"
BabySatch1 1 year ago
70 people who watched this video , are just too stupid too understand such simple things.
vasgeorge 1 year ago
@vasgeorge
No dummy it is the reverse ONLY 70 people out of so many fools came saw the lies and errors and knew the ways of con artists and seeing it clearly left a thumbs down or did not even vote and left like seeing shit and avoid touching or smelling it.
Zland scam to steal 30 million is nothing small and maybe he police should look into who will own the zland if not Peter Jacques and Roxanne and Jacques dies soon so just peter and Roxanne with 30 million bucks and making tourist cash!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
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vasgeorge 1 year ago
PS - per PJ "Science & technology = divinity in action" !!!!!!!
VERY WELL SAID Peter!! :)
lspmd2 1 year ago
Hello family, remember that PJ uses the words: gradual, "in time", eventually, etc this is not an overnight thing. And also remember that as JF has said "The Venus Project" first & foremost is a 'way of thinking' so as your 'way of thinking' continues to change, your actions to stop feeding the money system will follow. People must grow into these ideas, they don't come right away. Keep moving' forward little bros & sis's
Love - Mamma D
lspmd2 1 year ago
@lspmd2
he uses word to make maximum money and longest scam possible! I teach build this and save lives better than they ever dreamed of..and it is free!!! You can build NOW not when money fails or when 30 million goal is reached in the scam! Z land ownership is what all this is about!
who owns the donations and who owns the things the donations get! they say they do! i say Humanity does and members have the say NOT the founders! they get nothing of money or land!!!! they do not have the right
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Doctors Destroy Health, Lawyers Destroy Justice, Universities Destroy Knowlegde, Governments Destroy Freedom, Media Destroys Informations And Religion Destroys Spirituality..
shamelessness 1 year ago 25
@shamelessness BEST SHIT EVER
CigarelloznDrank 1 year ago
@shamelessness
You are singing the T.V.P. and T.Z.M. theme song! Just add Give us donations even if we don't need it and we are millionaires with donation Boxes Millionaires with donation boxes.... 419 419 Fraud pays well with 1/5 million victims and many in the 35 years of all this! Old ladies with cash Millionaires with bundles But Saudi Arabian Billionaires stay away it is like KKK round Venus around my Venus Home oooooh blame 911 i say NO!
want to trade people kids? watch babies drown?
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@shamelessness
Greed destroys these things, the worst in human nature.
To blame something inert like money is bad enough, its even worse to blame a Dr. for current medical problems. Its the system set up within these environments that needs to change, try not throwing the baby out with the bath water...just a thought.
kingcurtiss 1 year ago