Wgho is the hypocrite? If you have no objective standard of right that is identical to our unchanging God, then you have no objective basis to judge or measure changing behavior. If you have no objective standard by which to judge behavior then nothing can really be wrong in itself (ie hypocrisy doesnt exist). So you cant say hypocrisy is wrong, let alone discrimination, or "imposing" ones beliefs on another.
People all have evil BUT there are OBVIOUS things that liberals don't see that we can avoid doing to each other..ie cease murdering innocent babies in the womb, stop attracking the family which is the immune system and foundation for society. It doesnt matter in what manner or style I argue, what matters is if what Im saying is true. BTW it has been verified that the media has a liberal bias which would mean to enlarge the govt, and part of that is to see taxes as good.
Theres is NOTHING new added after birth or conception, so what you have there you have for the duration of its existence..if human at ANY time, then human the entire time. Since all made in Gods image w a soul and body are human, and a conceptus has a physical (yet un/under-developed) body and a soul a conceptus is therefore fully human and thus has a right to live just like you and your underdeveloped buddies are. If we are permitted to kill under developed people then say goodbye bro.
So no I dont believe ALL violence (depending on how you define the word) is wrong..there is just and unjust aggression. Fighting evil with good is not a bad thing but a good thing..yea I know difficult for a relativist to get..EXCEPT when the evil happens to you.
That is, you have intrinsic value given by God, ensured absolutely by God, and protected by the government via laws..if you have no intrinsic worth, not much different ontologically than an animal, vegetable or pond of scum, and have no worth, then why try to use your "rights" which you dont have to have govnt protect your "worth" via laws, which none of the above would exist without a Theistic God?
So the only question that remains is to ask whether or not we know a conceptus is fully human, and the fact is that we KNOW a conceptus has 100% full human personhood thus has equal rights to life just like anyone else which makes abortion morally wrong and therefore it needs to be made illegal just like slavery was eventually.
Ive never hunted but yes I have eaten meat and do believe in capital punishment..I figured youd say this and this is why I made a CLEAR distinction between just killing (animals and vegetation for food, self defense, defense from an unjust aggressor, just war theory, capital punishment for capital crime etc) and UNJust killing which is murder (killing for no justified reason, killing the innocent, killing those like th unborn who have NOT committed a capital crime..etc).
the united states government has executed innocent people who were wrongly convicted.
hypocrisy.
your definition of murder seems to be very biased. in my opinion, killing animals is a wrong act (what did cows, rabbits, ducks, etc do to you? did they kill someone? lol.)
Im ALSO NOT talking about imposing beliefs on people. Im saying this is what this country is about, is based on, so theres no way you can meaningfully or correctly deny that truth and seek to impose your irrational secular beliefs ON what this nation is all about. Truth is actually undeniable and inescapable, so imposing is not required.
"wrongly" convicted? How do you get what is wrong/not RIGHT unless there is a real RIGHT? But if youre saying the behaior goes away from the standard of what is right meaning the standard is different from the behavior being judged in line with the standard, where do you get that standard from? How do you get a real right and real wrong without a moral law? How do you get a moral law without a moral law giver or a prescription without a prescriber?
Again since the unborn are equally human like anyone else because they are made by God, thus have a natural right to life, and havent committed a capital crime, a person who kills the unborn are committing murder which is morally evil and rightly illegal..
Youre also right that you are not supposed or allowed to do just "ANYTHING" because some things are WRONG..what you assume (besides the contradictory notion that God doesnt exist) is that ANYONE has a "right" to choose to murder people. Where do you get that right from? BTW you think and talk EXACTLY like the media, activist judges, ACLU etc have told you to think and talk. Well done..
i follow what the media teaches? the media teaches that taxes are evil, since they're rich motherfuckers... and i'm a pro-choice socialist. what's your point?
also, i don't agree with the ACLU on affirmative action. i think it's discrimination.
you, on the other hand, talk much like an evangelical preacher, or Sean Hannity/Bill O'Reilly (regarding the blaming the media/ACLU/liberals for america's problems.)
The media teaches you to be a socialist, to be anti american, to be anti rational, and you have demonstrated all of those things by holding to your relativistic worldview where yoru feet are firmly planted in mid air. Discrimination huh..is discrimination wrong? If so how do you know it is?
It says we have a God given right to LIFE, if that is a right we have because we were made by God in His image, then adults, the elderly, children, slaves, and the UNBORN naturally have that right because they were also made in Gods image as fully human. If they have the right to live then no one has a right to violate that right for any unjust reason.
If you are referring to God as a fictional character, it seems you are claiming you know for certain that God does not exist, is that the case? Im not pushing my religious views on anyone, Im having a civil discussion about what the Law of our land are and what their basis is, being God. Read the Declaration and get a idea about what this nation you presumably live in is about.
the law is not based on the bible, religion, or "god".
and yes i am claiming to know for certain that your fairy-man does not exist.
there is a separation of church and state. therefore your suggestion that our laws are based on god/the bible, when 5-10% of americans consider themselves atheists or agnostics means you are either discriminatory, or ignorant :)
Wait..are you saying that imposing beliefs is absolutely wrong? If so on what basis do you have to say its really not right without implying there is a real right? You keep CLAIMING and ASSUMING there is no God..how do you KNOW for SURE there is no God. Maybe you can answer my question instead of run from it?
If there are some things that ARE really wrong (not right) then how could you judge that without a standard that is identical to the God you claim doesnt exist? Which is it? If there are such a thing as innocent people, that means there must be a standard by which to measure who is close to innocence/without blame of certain charges of evil doing, and whois far from innocent.
Law isnt based on God?? Again are you completely ignorant of the entire history of this nation as well as the laws its based on? You completely ignorant of First Principles of Reason? Theres NO way you can meaningfully deny what Im saying WITHOUT necessarily implying the truth of what Im saying in your very denial. Example: How do you know FOR SURE there is no God when that would require omniscience to be able to claim that?
BECAUSE they are made by God as equals with intrinsic value and rights, like a right to LIFE, they ought not be discarded or killed when they are not guilty of a capital crime. Killing the innocent is the same principle behind terrorists attacks, and you my friend are no different in principle and mentality than a terrorist. If you don't like the Declaration of Independence and having a right to life, I suggest a better home for you may be Iran or some socialist or communist country.
I didn't say it was socialist. I was saying you should live in some place that doesn't hold to the absolute/universal truths+ principles of the Declaration of Independence whether they be facist, socialist, communistic, radical millitant bases, or any form of dictatorial regime that do not hold to the principle stated..that is IF you don't like or agree with the principles of the Declaration, where your rights to life, free speech etc are supported and protected, why live in America?
i think you're getting the declaration and the constitution mixed up.
either way, they advocated the right to choose what you want to do (not specifically abortion rights or anything, but the general idea of choice). =freedom
No the Declaration is the seat or foundation for the Constitution, and it says that we get the rights specified in the legislation, laws, ammendments of the Constitution FROM GOD, including our equality, value etc..So what the Declaration does is give a foundation context and interpretive basis for the constitution, so they go hand in hand. IF you do not have intrinsic value and rights given by an unchanging transcendent God, then no laws are necessary to protect your value or rights.
So if its wrong to unjustly kill an adult or elderly person because they are a human being made by God w a right to life and have committed no capital crime, then its equally wrong to unjustly kill a child or the unborn because they couldnt committ a capital crime.
Again, the REASON we know a conceptus is fully human thus bearing an intrinsic right to life is because no new genetic info is added after conception so what it is from conception is what you have after birth..the only difference is the extent of how developed that person is and just because someone isn't fully developed doest give ANYONE a right to kill them.
Thats like saying "Dont like slavery" don't get one for yourself. That is one of the most ignorant irrational callous things I have ever heard. The problem IS a problem and it isn't solved by ignoring it or defining it as a non problem. Its a human rights issue because the unborn from conception onward are human beings just like slaves are.
Its only the moral life that can produce life, extend life, and preserve life..the Declaration doesnt give you the freedom to be a sociopath to do whatever you want to whoever you want whenever you want. It is freedom w a context and an end.
i know you can't do ANYTHING, but you can choose your opinions, like we have now. just because you don't like the right to choose, doesn't mean you should limit the choices of other people.
You do what other secularists want..to ONLY allow secular irrational thought to prevade while oppressing and silencing any other view..how is that not consistent w fachist views. The REASON you can be a secularist is because this country is based on judeo christian ethics..
i "only allow secular irrational thought to prevade while oppressing and silencing any other view"? i'm for freedom, dumb ass! you don't want an abortion? don't have one! don't like gay marriage? marry a straight person!
fucking christ.. you're the oppressor. you're the fascist.. suggesting the dictator-esque limiting of choices that we should be able to pick for ourselves.
Which is it? Is there an objective law=to God which allows you to make moral judgements or is all what you say including your claim that God doesnt exist just your baseless opinion?
Hint: The admittance of omniscience my friend is NOT an argument AGAINST the existence of God it just proves there is one, but cant be you because omniscience wouldnt make a self refuting argument like you would.
Knowing youre a teen who lives in this secularly dominated brainwashed culture from the media arts and schools I wouldnt dare accuse you of NOT being a sociopath. I apologize if I didn't accuse you of that...You can choose to express your opinions yes. You have a God given right to do so, and this govt acknowledges that..ie its not secular in its history or in its foundation or structure.
Ok so again, are you claiming you know for sure that there is no God?? Im not suggesting a Theocracy (direct rule of God as king) NO ONE is..READ the Declaration of Independence and tell me if you think THAT is reffering to a Secular government run by irrational anti theistic contradictory principles..such as the ones you espouse?
Yes! Slavery and prochoice are both wrong for the same reasons..SINCE all men (no matter what stage of development they have, where they live, or how dependant they are on their parents) are created equal by God, and have intrinsic value worth protecting, this is why it is wrong to coersively enslave, mistreat, or murder (UNjustly kill) children and adults, and why it is wrong to enslave mistreat or murder (UNjutsly kill) children in the womb.
You ARE religious, EVERYONE has a religion, and everyone is religious. If you can "push" your SECULAR/Atheistic views on other people like me, then why can't I "push" more so rather calmly explain what the laws of this nation are, which are held as SELF EVIDENT, that is absolutely and universally true..to deny it you end up contradicting yourself. Is that what you choose to do?
Freedom YES! But its freedom to do good not evil, freedom to express whatever beliefs you have whether they be sensible, self evident, and undeniable or contradictory, irrational, and or meaningless. Concerning abortion it is EVIL to endorse or promote murder in any sense, whether it be UNjust killing of innocent people in the womb or outside of it. BTW how is asking about freedom with no point and saying F you an argument that either proves your point or disproves mine?
Laws are only meaningful if there is a moral law giver, rational principles are only meaningful if there is an ultimate unchanging source of reason/mind by which we can judge what is vs what isnt and what is good vs not good/not godly/bad.
No again it was the freedom with an END/reason and right to choose to pursuit of happyness which is =the good life=the moral life.
Someone isnt human BECAUSE of what they can do or feel (lepers are human!), or how developed they are (children teenagers and the unborn are human!), they are human BY NATURE BECAUSE they are all made by GOD. Since there is NO new genetic information added AFTER conception, what you have from conception on is essentially the same as what you have outside of the womb and for the rest of the life of that conceptus/baby/adult= a 100% full human person.
Why shouldn't I compare children/teens to the unborn?? Why not?? The ONLY difference is one of development and the place one lives..Just because you move somewhere doesn't change your identity or ontology. Just because you are not fully developed doesnt mean you are less than human or not human. And just because you may not be able to feel something doesnt determine whether you are human.
Are you saying that killing innocent people is the same thing as killing someone to protect your life or the life of a loved ones?? If a theif breaks into your home and tries to kills your family is that the same thing as you killing him in order to prevent it?
The fact that you can't seem to discern between a preacher who preaches on the basis of religious text or philosophy and a political commentator is an amazing testiment to your secular education and worldview. Just because a preacher and pollitical commentator both use reason (and dont misuse it like you are) doesnt mean a preacher=a pollitical commentator or news caster.
Free to do what? Please define freedom for me in terms of how you are using the term. If you believe you are free to do evil, you have a backwards definition of freedom. One cannot be free IF one is trapped by their base selfish evil instincts. The pursuit of happiness is a refference to the philosophers use of the good life=the moral life. So one can only be free if they are free to do good, minus being weighed down by guilt and shame of doing wrong.
the difference is wasted potential and time spent on children/teens.
how much is spent on the unborn? hardly any if you don't count ultrasounds, while tons have been spent on children/teens, and teens are around the age when they can start to earn their own money. a dead child/teen is a huge loss, as cynical as it sounds.
Uh you are begging the question. You are assuming children and teens have intrinsic worth that requires their value protected..where do they get that value from? Also what makes children and teens have value and those who are less developed, namely the unborn of less value?? The issue is if the unborn is equally human to teens and children then how would money be wasted?? Its not cynical its absolutely evil.
Great answers Mr. Huckabee. People, please do your research. Be a smart and inform voter. Why doesn't Mr. Tucker criticized other guests who have tried to assinated Mr. Huckabee on his show? Mr. Tucker is extremely biased.
Tucker asks tough questions all the time. Of course he's biased. He's a commentator. But he wasn't trying to make Huckabee look bad. It was a well conducted interview.
Wgho is the hypocrite? If you have no objective standard of right that is identical to our unchanging God, then you have no objective basis to judge or measure changing behavior. If you have no objective standard by which to judge behavior then nothing can really be wrong in itself (ie hypocrisy doesnt exist). So you cant say hypocrisy is wrong, let alone discrimination, or "imposing" ones beliefs on another.
Dominick7 4 years ago
People all have evil BUT there are OBVIOUS things that liberals don't see that we can avoid doing to each other..ie cease murdering innocent babies in the womb, stop attracking the family which is the immune system and foundation for society. It doesnt matter in what manner or style I argue, what matters is if what Im saying is true. BTW it has been verified that the media has a liberal bias which would mean to enlarge the govt, and part of that is to see taxes as good.
Dominick7 4 years ago
Theres is NOTHING new added after birth or conception, so what you have there you have for the duration of its existence..if human at ANY time, then human the entire time. Since all made in Gods image w a soul and body are human, and a conceptus has a physical (yet un/under-developed) body and a soul a conceptus is therefore fully human and thus has a right to live just like you and your underdeveloped buddies are. If we are permitted to kill under developed people then say goodbye bro.
Dominick7 4 years ago
no god.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
So no I dont believe ALL violence (depending on how you define the word) is wrong..there is just and unjust aggression. Fighting evil with good is not a bad thing but a good thing..yea I know difficult for a relativist to get..EXCEPT when the evil happens to you.
Dominick7 4 years ago
That is, you have intrinsic value given by God, ensured absolutely by God, and protected by the government via laws..if you have no intrinsic worth, not much different ontologically than an animal, vegetable or pond of scum, and have no worth, then why try to use your "rights" which you dont have to have govnt protect your "worth" via laws, which none of the above would exist without a Theistic God?
Dominick7 4 years ago
So the only question that remains is to ask whether or not we know a conceptus is fully human, and the fact is that we KNOW a conceptus has 100% full human personhood thus has equal rights to life just like anyone else which makes abortion morally wrong and therefore it needs to be made illegal just like slavery was eventually.
Dominick7 4 years ago
have you ever hunted? do you believe in capital punishment? do you eat meat? do you believe all violence is wrong?
you've done some murdering of your own, sir.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Ive never hunted but yes I have eaten meat and do believe in capital punishment..I figured youd say this and this is why I made a CLEAR distinction between just killing (animals and vegetation for food, self defense, defense from an unjust aggressor, just war theory, capital punishment for capital crime etc) and UNJust killing which is murder (killing for no justified reason, killing the innocent, killing those like th unborn who have NOT committed a capital crime..etc).
Dominick7 4 years ago
the united states government has executed innocent people who were wrongly convicted.
hypocrisy.
your definition of murder seems to be very biased. in my opinion, killing animals is a wrong act (what did cows, rabbits, ducks, etc do to you? did they kill someone? lol.)
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Im ALSO NOT talking about imposing beliefs on people. Im saying this is what this country is about, is based on, so theres no way you can meaningfully or correctly deny that truth and seek to impose your irrational secular beliefs ON what this nation is all about. Truth is actually undeniable and inescapable, so imposing is not required.
Dominick7 4 years ago
"wrongly" convicted? How do you get what is wrong/not RIGHT unless there is a real RIGHT? But if youre saying the behaior goes away from the standard of what is right meaning the standard is different from the behavior being judged in line with the standard, where do you get that standard from? How do you get a real right and real wrong without a moral law? How do you get a moral law without a moral law giver or a prescription without a prescriber?
Dominick7 4 years ago
Again since the unborn are equally human like anyone else because they are made by God, thus have a natural right to life, and havent committed a capital crime, a person who kills the unborn are committing murder which is morally evil and rightly illegal..
Dominick7 4 years ago
stop using the god defense. there is no god.
ironic that you mention "capital" and murder.
do you support the death penalty? do ya? lol.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Youre also right that you are not supposed or allowed to do just "ANYTHING" because some things are WRONG..what you assume (besides the contradictory notion that God doesnt exist) is that ANYONE has a "right" to choose to murder people. Where do you get that right from? BTW you think and talk EXACTLY like the media, activist judges, ACLU etc have told you to think and talk. Well done..
Dominick7 4 years ago
i follow what the media teaches? the media teaches that taxes are evil, since they're rich motherfuckers... and i'm a pro-choice socialist. what's your point?
also, i don't agree with the ACLU on affirmative action. i think it's discrimination.
you, on the other hand, talk much like an evangelical preacher, or Sean Hannity/Bill O'Reilly (regarding the blaming the media/ACLU/liberals for america's problems.)
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
The media teaches you to be a socialist, to be anti american, to be anti rational, and you have demonstrated all of those things by holding to your relativistic worldview where yoru feet are firmly planted in mid air. Discrimination huh..is discrimination wrong? If so how do you know it is?
Dominick7 4 years ago
wow you listen to talk radio too much.
PAY ATTENTION TO ANY NEWS SHOW, especially fox news in general.
they claim the left will raise taxes constantly if they're elected.
I know discrimination is wrong because I wouldn't want anyone to feel discriminated against. I know how it feels, and it's wrong.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
how would you know how it feels?
right wing hack.
lay off the billo
69nintendo69 4 years ago
oh yeah. i'm a -total- right wing hack..
i'm a member of the green party, dumb ass.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
It says we have a God given right to LIFE, if that is a right we have because we were made by God in His image, then adults, the elderly, children, slaves, and the UNBORN naturally have that right because they were also made in Gods image as fully human. If they have the right to live then no one has a right to violate that right for any unjust reason.
Dominick7 4 years ago
there is no god.
do not use a fictional character as a political point.
separation of church and state for the win. don't push your religious views on other people.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
If you are referring to God as a fictional character, it seems you are claiming you know for certain that God does not exist, is that the case? Im not pushing my religious views on anyone, Im having a civil discussion about what the Law of our land are and what their basis is, being God. Read the Declaration and get a idea about what this nation you presumably live in is about.
Dominick7 4 years ago
the law is not based on the bible, religion, or "god".
and yes i am claiming to know for certain that your fairy-man does not exist.
there is a separation of church and state. therefore your suggestion that our laws are based on god/the bible, when 5-10% of americans consider themselves atheists or agnostics means you are either discriminatory, or ignorant :)
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Wait..are you saying that imposing beliefs is absolutely wrong? If so on what basis do you have to say its really not right without implying there is a real right? You keep CLAIMING and ASSUMING there is no God..how do you KNOW for SURE there is no God. Maybe you can answer my question instead of run from it?
Dominick7 4 years ago
i'm not running, i just have other things to do. lol.
i'm saying your idea of a religious government is wrong because it discriminates against me.
there is no god because there is no proof of god. :)
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
If there are some things that ARE really wrong (not right) then how could you judge that without a standard that is identical to the God you claim doesnt exist? Which is it? If there are such a thing as innocent people, that means there must be a standard by which to measure who is close to innocence/without blame of certain charges of evil doing, and whois far from innocent.
Dominick7 4 years ago
are you saying i don't have morality because i don't believe in a god?
that's ridiculous. i can tell right from wrong. unlike some christians, i don't kill people :D
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Law isnt based on God?? Again are you completely ignorant of the entire history of this nation as well as the laws its based on? You completely ignorant of First Principles of Reason? Theres NO way you can meaningfully deny what Im saying WITHOUT necessarily implying the truth of what Im saying in your very denial. Example: How do you know FOR SURE there is no God when that would require omniscience to be able to claim that?
Dominick7 4 years ago
BECAUSE they are made by God as equals with intrinsic value and rights, like a right to LIFE, they ought not be discarded or killed when they are not guilty of a capital crime. Killing the innocent is the same principle behind terrorists attacks, and you my friend are no different in principle and mentality than a terrorist. If you don't like the Declaration of Independence and having a right to life, I suggest a better home for you may be Iran or some socialist or communist country.
Dominick7 4 years ago
"Iran or some socialist or communist country"?
first off Iran is not socialist/communist. LOL
and fuck you. don't you dare talk about the declaration of independence. what about FREEDOM?
lol. sad.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
I didn't say it was socialist. I was saying you should live in some place that doesn't hold to the absolute/universal truths+ principles of the Declaration of Independence whether they be facist, socialist, communistic, radical millitant bases, or any form of dictatorial regime that do not hold to the principle stated..that is IF you don't like or agree with the principles of the Declaration, where your rights to life, free speech etc are supported and protected, why live in America?
Dominick7 4 years ago
i think you're getting the declaration and the constitution mixed up.
either way, they advocated the right to choose what you want to do (not specifically abortion rights or anything, but the general idea of choice). =freedom
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
No the Declaration is the seat or foundation for the Constitution, and it says that we get the rights specified in the legislation, laws, ammendments of the Constitution FROM GOD, including our equality, value etc..So what the Declaration does is give a foundation context and interpretive basis for the constitution, so they go hand in hand. IF you do not have intrinsic value and rights given by an unchanging transcendent God, then no laws are necessary to protect your value or rights.
Dominick7 4 years ago
there is no god. lol.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
So are you claiming you know for certain there is no God?
Dominick7 4 years ago
So if its wrong to unjustly kill an adult or elderly person because they are a human being made by God w a right to life and have committed no capital crime, then its equally wrong to unjustly kill a child or the unborn because they couldnt committ a capital crime.
Dominick7 4 years ago
elderly people don't have much of a use anyway.
people are made by PEOPLE, not "god". fucking creationists i swear..
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Again, the REASON we know a conceptus is fully human thus bearing an intrinsic right to life is because no new genetic info is added after conception so what it is from conception is what you have after birth..the only difference is the extent of how developed that person is and just because someone isn't fully developed doest give ANYONE a right to kill them.
Dominick7 4 years ago
i hate "pro-life" candidates.
don't like abortions?
DON'T GET ONE.
problem solved.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Thats like saying "Dont like slavery" don't get one for yourself. That is one of the most ignorant irrational callous things I have ever heard. The problem IS a problem and it isn't solved by ignoring it or defining it as a non problem. Its a human rights issue because the unborn from conception onward are human beings just like slaves are.
Dominick7 4 years ago
lmfao did you just compare slavery to the pro-choice position?? talk about "one of the most ignorant irrational callous things I have ever heard."
slaves have emotion, while "the unborn" are not aware of what's going on.
there's a huge difference, jackass.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Its only the moral life that can produce life, extend life, and preserve life..the Declaration doesnt give you the freedom to be a sociopath to do whatever you want to whoever you want whenever you want. It is freedom w a context and an end.
Dominick7 4 years ago
who says you can't be a sociopath? lol??
i know you can't do ANYTHING, but you can choose your opinions, like we have now. just because you don't like the right to choose, doesn't mean you should limit the choices of other people.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
You do what other secularists want..to ONLY allow secular irrational thought to prevade while oppressing and silencing any other view..how is that not consistent w fachist views. The REASON you can be a secularist is because this country is based on judeo christian ethics..
Dominick7 4 years ago
i "only allow secular irrational thought to prevade while oppressing and silencing any other view"? i'm for freedom, dumb ass! you don't want an abortion? don't have one! don't like gay marriage? marry a straight person!
fucking christ.. you're the oppressor. you're the fascist.. suggesting the dictator-esque limiting of choices that we should be able to pick for ourselves.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Which is it? Is there an objective law=to God which allows you to make moral judgements or is all what you say including your claim that God doesnt exist just your baseless opinion?
Dominick7 4 years ago
Hint: The admittance of omniscience my friend is NOT an argument AGAINST the existence of God it just proves there is one, but cant be you because omniscience wouldnt make a self refuting argument like you would.
Dominick7 4 years ago
Knowing youre a teen who lives in this secularly dominated brainwashed culture from the media arts and schools I wouldnt dare accuse you of NOT being a sociopath. I apologize if I didn't accuse you of that...You can choose to express your opinions yes. You have a God given right to do so, and this govt acknowledges that..ie its not secular in its history or in its foundation or structure.
Dominick7 4 years ago
since when am i a sociopath?
there is no god, so please stop mentioning it.
the country was founded on the idea of secular government ("ie" the separation of church and state), not a theocracy.
many, in our history, have been religious, but that doesn't mean you impose your religious beliefs on those who may not agree with them.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Ok so again, are you claiming you know for sure that there is no God?? Im not suggesting a Theocracy (direct rule of God as king) NO ONE is..READ the Declaration of Independence and tell me if you think THAT is reffering to a Secular government run by irrational anti theistic contradictory principles..such as the ones you espouse?
Dominick7 4 years ago
why do you think they left britain? religious freedom. lol.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Yes! Slavery and prochoice are both wrong for the same reasons..SINCE all men (no matter what stage of development they have, where they live, or how dependant they are on their parents) are created equal by God, and have intrinsic value worth protecting, this is why it is wrong to coersively enslave, mistreat, or murder (UNjustly kill) children and adults, and why it is wrong to enslave mistreat or murder (UNjutsly kill) children in the womb.
Dominick7 4 years ago
stop with the god argument. there are many in the US that are not religious, including myself.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
You ARE religious, EVERYONE has a religion, and everyone is religious. If you can "push" your SECULAR/Atheistic views on other people like me, then why can't I "push" more so rather calmly explain what the laws of this nation are, which are held as SELF EVIDENT, that is absolutely and universally true..to deny it you end up contradicting yourself. Is that what you choose to do?
Dominick7 4 years ago
"everyone has a religion, and everyone is religious"?
wow.
i'm actually an atheist, asshole.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Freedom YES! But its freedom to do good not evil, freedom to express whatever beliefs you have whether they be sensible, self evident, and undeniable or contradictory, irrational, and or meaningless. Concerning abortion it is EVIL to endorse or promote murder in any sense, whether it be UNjust killing of innocent people in the womb or outside of it. BTW how is asking about freedom with no point and saying F you an argument that either proves your point or disproves mine?
Dominick7 4 years ago
good and evil are opinions/points of view.
i think religion is evil, but most do not. doesn't make me right, doesn't make me wrong. it's just an opinion.
i did have a point. freedom is the point. what is freedom? look it up.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Laws are only meaningful if there is a moral law giver, rational principles are only meaningful if there is an ultimate unchanging source of reason/mind by which we can judge what is vs what isnt and what is good vs not good/not godly/bad.
No again it was the freedom with an END/reason and right to choose to pursuit of happyness which is =the good life=the moral life.
Dominick7 4 years ago
Someone isnt human BECAUSE of what they can do or feel (lepers are human!), or how developed they are (children teenagers and the unborn are human!), they are human BY NATURE BECAUSE they are all made by GOD. Since there is NO new genetic information added AFTER conception, what you have from conception on is essentially the same as what you have outside of the womb and for the rest of the life of that conceptus/baby/adult= a 100% full human person.
Dominick7 4 years ago
do not compare a child/teen to "the unborn", jackass.
i'm a teen myself (18)..
and stop using the god argument, if you can call it an argument.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Why shouldn't I compare children/teens to the unborn?? Why not?? The ONLY difference is one of development and the place one lives..Just because you move somewhere doesn't change your identity or ontology. Just because you are not fully developed doesnt mean you are less than human or not human. And just because you may not be able to feel something doesnt determine whether you are human.
Dominick7 4 years ago
If that isn't sociopathic and or as sick and evil a philosophy as a terrorists fascists or serial killers I don't know what else is.
Dominick7 4 years ago
those are just labels. people are people, and they may see you as the "terrorists... or serial killers"
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Are you saying that killing innocent people is the same thing as killing someone to protect your life or the life of a loved ones?? If a theif breaks into your home and tries to kills your family is that the same thing as you killing him in order to prevent it?
Dominick7 4 years ago
The fact that you can't seem to discern between a preacher who preaches on the basis of religious text or philosophy and a political commentator is an amazing testiment to your secular education and worldview. Just because a preacher and pollitical commentator both use reason (and dont misuse it like you are) doesnt mean a preacher=a pollitical commentator or news caster.
Dominick7 4 years ago
LMFAO
"A PREACHER...USE REASON"!
god damn. you're funny..
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Free to do what? Please define freedom for me in terms of how you are using the term. If you believe you are free to do evil, you have a backwards definition of freedom. One cannot be free IF one is trapped by their base selfish evil instincts. The pursuit of happiness is a refference to the philosophers use of the good life=the moral life. So one can only be free if they are free to do good, minus being weighed down by guilt and shame of doing wrong.
Dominick7 4 years ago
evil is an opinion, jackass.
i believe you're evil, and you do not.
= example
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
quit putting words in my fucking mouth.
a thief is breaking the law in multiple ways, and endangers the life of a family.
that's different.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
ill put something else in ur mouth unless you actually start researching the facts
69nintendo69 4 years ago
what facts? you've got no argument.
we're talking about opinions. you can't do research on those. stop arguing for the sake of arguing.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
the difference is wasted potential and time spent on children/teens.
how much is spent on the unborn? hardly any if you don't count ultrasounds, while tons have been spent on children/teens, and teens are around the age when they can start to earn their own money. a dead child/teen is a huge loss, as cynical as it sounds.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Uh you are begging the question. You are assuming children and teens have intrinsic worth that requires their value protected..where do they get that value from? Also what makes children and teens have value and those who are less developed, namely the unborn of less value?? The issue is if the unborn is equally human to teens and children then how would money be wasted?? Its not cynical its absolutely evil.
Dominick7 4 years ago
One SHOULD NOT be free or permitted to do evil LIKE treat a human as LESS than human as in slavery or abortion.
Dominick7 4 years ago
because less time and money have been spent investing in their future.
fucking christ, can you read? i said that in the last reply.
cookimonstizzle 4 years ago
Great answers Mr. Huckabee. People, please do your research. Be a smart and inform voter. Why doesn't Mr. Tucker criticized other guests who have tried to assinated Mr. Huckabee on his show? Mr. Tucker is extremely biased.
jmrsmlive 4 years ago
Tucker asks tough questions all the time. Of course he's biased. He's a commentator. But he wasn't trying to make Huckabee look bad. It was a well conducted interview.
ithinkronpaulissmart 4 years ago