9/11 wasn't an inside job. Nixon wasnt a crook and Adolf Hitler was only a campfire story,because governmental leaders care for everyones welfare.. Federal governments, especially the the US government, are exempt from lying, being power greedy,exempt from hurting strangers they dont care about, and it can never be proven otherwise.
Sounds pretty stupid but people beleive it every day
It's well known that alqaeda (The Base)was created by CIA to fight the USSR in Afghanistan and Bin Laden was known by his operative name Tim Osman during that time and later.Most people don't know that when he was listed on the 10 most wanted FBI website his crimes did not include 9/11 only the Embassy bombing in Africa.Osama was used as the face of the boogeyman,he died probably before 2008 and maybe as far back as 2001,he was in a CIA hospital in Dubai in 2001 with bad kidneys,Think about it!
My GAWD but the people of USA Inc. have become so utterly stupidized ... for the most part they never even examined the case for how OBL is implicated in anything the US claims, or the fact that OBL was an agent of CIA intrigue and duplicity for over 20 years. What IS unequivocal is that agents and operatives within the Bush admin, Pentagon & CIA have repeatedly obscured, derailed, covered-up, thwarted and lied about US deep-cover involvement in events leading-up to 911. What's THAT all about?
It amazes me that American sheeple are so obtuse that they actually believe that one of strictest followers of Islam, who fought the Russians with the Mujaheddin, who worked directly with the CIA in the 80's, who gave up a plush millionaire's lifestyle to stay true to his religion, and who needed kidney dialisis on a weekly basis, is killed by an unknown group of men and is conveniently disposed of in the ocean just as Obama's numbers are falling and just as the next election cycle begins.
And then we are told that this ultra strict follower of Islam, a man who gave up all of his riches and was so devout that he even refused to wear jewelry, was found with a bunch of porno movies, cable t.v., video games, marijuana and no kidney dialysis machine???? And people are so brainwashed that they actually believe this shit? The world is fucked.
"9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page.
(GO CHECK THE FBI WEBSITE, IT IS STILL NOT MENTIONED)
He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11." —FBI agent Rex Tomb, June 6, 2006
MISLEADING VIDEO TITLE. This man in the video former CIA Milt Bearden, clearly was saying that the idea of Osama Bin Ladin being trained by the CIA ~ WAS A MYTH.
the US needs a mass revolution as in Egypt ,,because none of us is free and they lie at us every where and our brothers ,sisters ,friends,coussins die while they keep their own kids in palaces
we get your back in Egypt as you people supported our revolution ,you are wonderful people
LOL you truthers sure have trouble understanding what you read and hear. He said the notion that the CIA trained him was part of "the MYTH of bin-Laden" (1:52), "I was there when bin-Laden was there and...the CIA had nothing to do with him (2:11). Nice own goal!
Are you out of your mind putting this title on this video? He makes the case for the rumor of Osama defeating the Soviets and being trained & working for the CIA, and immediately says, "but he wasn't," either of those things. I don't know if he's lying, BUT I SURE KNOW YOU ARE! Clean the earwax out of your ears next time, please. Q-tips work! :)
is osama was trained with cia that best example not to let muslim become cia agent period dont let anybody who is muslim be a cia they dont belong evn in that security league is dangrous for usa in future
Appeal to the European Union for the work of a meeting of the Security Council to pass a resolution to stop the massacres committed by the Syrian regime against his own people, after the United States lost U.S. credibility with the Arab and Muslim peoples that the role of the United States has a lot of peoples and the hope is now in the European Union, China, Russia and Turkey to stop the massacres that Exercised by terrorist regimes against the peoples Syria cry
@MrWhatwhat101: I Think their next plot will be the Olympic games in London , to start WW3, the same way they invented Obama, sorry I mean Osama, they will create another boggie man for their covert operations.
@woodsprout Part 2. You can listen to the excellent speeches of Benjamin Freedman on IAmTheWitness or just YouTube his name. You will understand how the Zionists treated the very friendly Germans. They were kept prisoner, rightfully so because they blackmailed Germany twice as I explained before. In fact, there was a gym, an operahouse, even a brothel for the Jews, they treated these POW's very well thank you. Do your due diligence please Woodsprout and sprout MungBeans SunflowerSeeds.
@artashes Sorry I don't believe Germany had that much love for Palestine and secondly why did they murder soo many of their innocent Jewish citizens then??? What did THOSE Jews ever do to anyone? NOTHING! Actually I think what you are saying is really quite offensive!
Yes, it is true that jet fuel cannot melt steel away. BUT, it can create what is called CREEP, which is when softens and loses its structural integrity. Proof:
(youtube.com/watch?v=CGsOkT__M7Y)
Imagine the TONS of weight pressing down on these wobbling beams as the dripping jet fuel spreads the fire and creep to the lower levels. It is obvious why they collapsed. Notice the one hit lower went first? Also, the owner of WTC7 admitted to setting fires for insurance money.
I'm really tired of hearing how sophisticated an oper. the 9/11 was..IT WASN'T ALL THAT SOPHISTICATED!!..These guys planned it out well in advance..All they really did was arm themselves, board the planes, at a time when security wasn't as tight as it is today, at different airports, at approx. the same hour, gained entry into the cockpits, force the pilots to fly where they were told, kill the pilots at the appropriate time, then take over and steer it into their targets. Not so sophisticated.
It gets a little more sophisticated when you take a look at the physical impossibility that the impact of the planes had anything to do with the symmetrical, global collapse at free fall speed that both towers, plus building 7 (not hit by plane) experienced that day. It was indeed a sophisticated attack.
@cheezer57 do you think you could take over the controls of those planes and steer them inot the targets?flying planes of that size doesnt seem to easy
@cheezer57 "arm themselves" with plastic knives and boxcutters, "board the planes" with stolen passports and without being on the passenger list. "at different airports, at approx. the same hour" no evidence of this happening. "force the pilots to fly where they were told" supposedly killed right away. "steer it into their targets" despite being terrible pilots.
osama bin laden didnt do shit to america the cia helped the afgans secretely fight off the russians in the 80s. THey created the mujihideen. Then, because bush wanted the fuckin oil, he turned on him. had us officials bomb twin towers and blame it on him. they put him in charge of mujihideen, after the bombing, they called him the leader of al queda. he was on the civilians of americas side. thats why the gov shut him up RIP bin laden if you think the oil thing im talkin about is crap look it up
@SGlide69 Yes he is dead.. but Al Qaida & the masterminds behind it are still around. Like his son said , he is the kindest of the bunch. God help us.
@SGlide69 Dude, he died in December 2001, he was being treated by two American Doctors in Dubai for his Renal Kidney Failure. He was a very sick man on a dialysis machine. Over these many moons they've created fake photos. Dude its all over the internet. ISRAEL DID 911, check out the work of Christopher Bollyn and get a life because all these Khazar Ashkenazim jews are brewing another false flag. They've already been using Depleted Uranium in their predators in Pakistan. Iamthewitness website
@artashes, What next from you? The holocaust never happened? I don't know you so I can't judge but seriously dude? All the dumb conspiracy theorys are started by people who don't have a life or they want to make more excitment out of it. If the Jews really did do it? We would be over there killing some of them.
@SGlide69 Wow, I should have known better. With a username like "SGlide69", I should have expected an ad hominem. It should have been obvious that he was 16 and spends many hours online debating. Or should I make a joke that he would like, "masturdebating". There you Mr. 69. A joke for you to add to your collection. I take no offense, neither should you, for I have been in your shoes at one point in my life, too.
@SGlide69 YES the holocaust is fabricated 100%. Read the work of Robert Faurisson, David Cole, Bradley Smith, David Irving etc Those so-called Gas Chambers were delousing chambers against the Typhus germ. Those bones and bony people had Typhus and the Germans had to feed their soldiers first so none of the food got to the Jew Prisoners. Chess Grandmaster Bobby Fischer put it well "Fuck the Jews, they mutilate their children" Jews commit this worst form of child abuse, they make sex cripples!!!
@woodsprout You have to understand dear person. The Jews LOVED the Germans even before WW1 then they didn't get their PALESTINE, they blackmailed the Germans. Again the same thing happened in WW2. Oppenheimer blacklisted Germany again because the Germans would not want them to gain access to Palestine so they fingered them again. Read the work of Ashkenazim Jew turned Christian Benjamin Freedman (Friedman originally but he changed his name to Freedman since he wanted OUT of Zionism)
@artashes Wow you must haved droped out in elemantary if you believe everything the internet says. I bet you believe what the tabloids magazines in the checkout counters say at the grocery store. Wake the fuck up, this world isn't a fairy tale not everything is planed by a higher order like everyone thinks its all bull shit. How about you go over to where the war is going on see how fucking real that shit is!
@TheMexOfAmerica "droped" "planed"? And you tell me I dropped out of elementary school? Ashkenazim Jews are NOT Semites. Read Eustace Mullins THE SECRETS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE, these Banksta Gangsta's are the real terrorists and they are all Ashkenazim Jews (Khazars) they genocided over 40 Million White Czarist Russians, a million and a half Armenians, they used 911 as a pretext to go steal Afghan Opium and Iraqi Oil and are poised for Libya, Iran. YOU must be a Jewish Shill obfuscator
Even J.F.K.'s "assassin" Lee Oswald drew a paycheck from the C.I.A. ($200 monthly when gasoline was 20¢ per gallon). Osama Bin Laden was murdered, as the assassinated Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto reported to David Frost on 11-2-07. [He often sought kidney dialysis at U.S. military hospitals.] — I have a theory that America's dykes are being subsidized by Osama Bin Lesbian and his cadre of cave-diving muffers.
In honor of those troops who have brought this to the world's attention, I have put together a blog titled: "US Troops Protect Afghan Opium Fields - by Bill Woollam" Just Google that.
Why do we allow the US Administration to profit off of Afghan opium fields?
The US troops are telling us that they are commanded to protect the Afghan opium fields, which inevitably will go on the market for 19 million dollars a barrel.
Heres a hint: Theres no aliens, theres no mind control, theres no population control, theres no MSG in drinking water to kill you. its green, and its printed on rice paper. that is it. every. single. problem. in this country is green and printed on rice paper. rap music, fast food, your ranting all of it. its all for green rice paper. thats the key to the universe.
@TheDeadFukinNinja thats the difference between truth and conspiracy hunters. theres no side to pick no labels to have theres no corrupt aliens theres just men as men we are corrupt and i actually watched that video for a change. thats fantasticly corrupt and all, but its nothing compared to Nazis ripping out organs of Jews while there alive to see how the body works. its a double sword. without doing that modern medicine? wouldnt exist. with it? were illuminati
Yes, conspiratards. intellectuals laugh at "cum" because half laden slang for ejaculate is fucking hilarious. fucking 5 year olds so sick of you braindead morons and false enlightment. its like saying mature fart joke the idiots below you (sheen fans) wont understand you but us actual intellects? see right through you. and you sir are fucking hilarious. i seriously couldnt try to be more blind. hey at least your trying to get it.
Like in my favorite Comic Book,,"The Invisibles.",,when you get to the end,,you find out the heroes and villains are the same side. What side are you on?
Is this weird editing supposed to appeal to the paranoid schizophrenics that believe Bin Laden is a CIA asset? Whoever uploaded this needs to listen more critically. Bearden said this is a MYTH!
He may be dead, but I wonder if anyone would recognize him if he shaved the beard? As USisfuckedup said, he could be on some remote paradise island, or a very rich man in Saudi Arabia. Or, he may be alive, but then what would be the advantage of keeping Osama alive if you can just use a double. Is his influence in the royal family that strong? We already know how big an influence the Saudis have on the US. policy.
The simple fact is, no one will ever know the truth about ANYTHING in the US.
Every little thing we see on American TV, websites, books, etc are highly questionable. It's always, almost the same story.....the person making that statement is either a Republican or whatever.....and he's making trouble because he wants to fuck the other party.
It's always A fighting with B.
Is non-Republican M.Moore telling the truth about Bush??? Dunno!
What concrete evidence do you hv that he is dead???
Gosh, you sound like a TYPICAL STUPID AMERICAN who's so easily deceived and manipulated by it's own fucked-up government. If the govt tells you to shoot some Niggers tmrw morning, you'll gladly do it too.
Bin Laden has never been charged with organizing or directing the 911 attacks. There's substantial evidence the OBL tapes were heavily manipulated, mistransdlated and others were outright fabricated with poor look-alike stand-ins. Cheney admitted OBL wasn't responsible for 911. Yet that was justification for attacking, invading & occupying Afghanistan. Taliban declared their readiness to deport OBL on US's giving evidence. Now we know why US refused. US had planned attack since Aug, 2001.
im not very keen on the newer generation of al-Qaeda because you dont JUST attack for nothing,there has to be a reason or you will commit a sin (im muslim) there should ALWAYS be a reason because if you kill an innocent for nothing or start a war FOR NOTHING then its just stupid because you will kill innocents in your country after america attacks arabia or something i dont know much about the bin laden crisis but what i do know is that he caused lives to be lost for no reason.
The thing that astounds the crap outta me is that people are still too stupid to know that they are always being lied to by the government and media! Don't believe anything these bastards say until you check it out!
@talon115 the same thing about religion. Even if you do not believe in God (well, I do I am Christian). It isnt hard to recognize that the "leaders of the great religions" totally are in the same boat....
As Talon said: Don't believe anything these bastards say until you check it out!
@talon115 Whats even worse is the people who see 1, youtube conspiravy theory. They automatically belive it when it has less bases for truth then the media.
The title of this video is an outright lie. The CIA rep says the exact opposite, he says that it is a MYTH that the CIA trained Osama Bin Laden. The CIA never ever trained Osama Bin Laden. Not in the 80s, not ever. They never gave him any funding, even in the 80s funding only went to afghan muj not to the arab jihadist group.
The uploader of the video must be deaf. Listen to 2:12 and it is clear, he says "the CIA had nothing to do with him".
@waltereg0 when in doubt find a grammatical error to provide evidence of your superior intelligence... buddy that doesnt remove the fact that you managed to misread the fucking title. Oh and I dont give a fuck about grammatical error, so efnerjkgrwkjgbwrkjg
@Melrodir I didn't misread the title. The title says they will talk about OBL having been trained by the CIA, & OBL has not been trained by the CIA. It doesn't say "CIA talks about whether OBL was trained by the CIA". Are you claiming to know what the intention of the uploader was when he titled the video? Because it is clear from his conspiracy-type comments that he meant the title to suggest exactly how I read it.
Do you believe OBL was responsible for 9/11? If so why did he deny it twice? Has his 'confession' video ever been proven authentic? Did Jeff Stein just report on two ex-CIA admitting to making a fake OBL video? How many decades have the Bush/Bin Laden families been close friends/business partners? Weren't two (or more) of OBL's brothers in the US on 9/11 and later allowed to leave? Wasn't OBL treated in an American hospital in Dubai before 911 while already wanted by the FBI?
@kc0696 1)OBL was never treated in a hospital in Dubai. Just a myth, debunked long ago. 2)the BL family is giant, OBL has dozens of brothers, the USA can't arrest someone just for being related to OBL. OBL himself has never had a relationship with the Bush family. 3) Stein's article says that video was never released. There's no reason to think the "confession" is fake, since it looks just like him in other videos, though the indoor lighting is darker. OBL's denials are not credible.
Hahahaha! Now that's rich, they made the video but never released it...never mind WHY they were making it in the first place. And they did say the program was later taken over by the military. Hmmm...but you say his 'confession' is still legitimate while BOTH denials are 'not credible'. CLASSIC.
As for the Bush / BL families, you are even insulting your own intelligence by pretending that has no relevance or that they shouldn't have been detained/quetsioned B4 leaving the US.
@kc0696 OBL's confession is legitimate, it was spoken to fellow jihadis. His denials were to the world press. They are not credible, because we know for a fact that Al Qaeda carried out the 9/11 attacks: Atta's cell was AQ. The BL relatives were detained & questioned before leaving the USA. You get too much junk info from M Moore movies and A Jones blogs. You have an exaggerated notion of your own intellect but you lack the ability to be skeptical of bogus sources/paranoid fantasies.
Man you are a true comic. I guess M. Moore and A. Jones have no credibility but the US GOV. does?? What are your thoughts on Operation Northwoods, or is independent thought still possible?
As for the US gov's investigative philosophy of..."its true because we say so", even though you accept this, let me show you why its flawed. For ex: you say the BL's were detained and questioned? Then I say, "OK, show me a source for that". Now you shit your pants because there isn't one.
"Twenty-two of the 26 people on the Bin Ladin flight were interviewed by the FBI. Many were asked detailed questions. None of the passengers stated that they had any recent contact with Usama Bin Ladin or knew anything about terrorist activity... The FBI checked a variety of databases for information on the Bin Ladin flight passengers and searched the aircraft". -9/11 Commission
Also note that flight was on 9/20, long after US airspace opened.
@waltereg0 Just because all of you FUCKTARDS are IGNORANT,FACT-FREE,MORONS who never read & know NOTHING about 911 & the Government's LIES-don't blame US. lol
PROOF of FBI building the 1st bomb in the WTC in 1993.
Save this folks-this is the longest conversation taped by Emad Salem of John Anticev FBI agent to cover his own back.
Uhhh...so WHY was the CIA/US military making fake OBL videos?
And I guess M. Moore /A. Jones have no credibility but the US gov. does? Hmm, how about Op. Northwoods smart guy, can you formulate an indpendent thought of your own on that FALSE FLAG OP? How about the Gulf of Tonkin LIE that killed 58,000 soldiers and countless innocent vietnemese?? How about the '93 WTC bombing we KNOW was set up by FBI??? How about JFK's murder, now a PROVEN gov. conspiracy??
@kc0696 Now you're just ranting a bunch of crazy lies. 93 WTC bombing was real, not set up. It has been thoroughly proven that Oswald was the sole assassin of JFK. Northwoods was nothing more than a bad plan that was rejected, and Gen Lemnitzer who endorsed it was demoted shortly after, The Gulf Of Tonkin was a simple mistake, which had followed a previous incident of an actual attack by NVA gunboats resulting in understandably nervous radar operators.
Yes yes yes! Now that's it, never have I seen a case of deny, distort and rationalize like this one. I guess I'll tell you the good news; You've just been awarded cyber-spook of the month! Now don't be modest, the miles and miles of spinning you do every day speaks for itself.
Your plackard will arrive in the mail. We like to do something cute with the O's in 'SPOOK' and make them look like little eyes watching you, hope you like it too!
@pt1gard I'm sure I could debate any of those shows and rip them apart. Debating tinfoilers is relatively easy since they have a very shallow understanding of history.
@pt1gard ah, the shrill cry of "shill!". Why is it that all truthers expect their sincerity to be without question, yet anyone if a differing opinion must be a liar?
@megan130 What the heck is a short "once over" either you read it thoroughly and carefully or you don't. Newton's Laws don't depend on what the designers/engineers have to say. The top block fell into the lower floors with no "reaction" from the lower floors...no jolt...no momentary deceleration. Falling essentially at freefall- NIST FAQ #6 August 30, 2006.
No resistance. Any high school or college physics teacher will tell you this does not happen naturally.
@megan130 This is bordering on stupidity. The high school teacher's paper 'proved' that the NIST was wrong, that's what it proved. And they corrected their blunder after reviewing his data. I don't think I've ever had such a repetitive and utterly dumb discussion with a charlatan this ignorant in my entire life. Did you not learn 'high school physics?' They're not chandler's laws, Mr. Chandler taught Newton's Laws etc. In your cyber avatar you get to be smarter than the experts, Newton & teacher
@megan130 I don't care if you're Red Adaire, or you're related to him, fire has never caused a steel framed high rise building to collapse...EVER! There is no things "might be" different 100 stories up...they are and have historically "been different". Fires in Madrid, Venezuela and china burned for upwards of 10 hours, one burned for 24 hours no collapse. More than 100 firefighters gave statements that they heard, saw and felt explosions. 9/11 Oral Histories-from your former brethren.
@megan130 The main problem with humans like you, is you think that all of mankind is afflicted with your very same 'limitations'. Whatever you can't do..."NO ONE" can. You're the one with the "theory" what we researchers have done is read the 'official' reports. As for the high school teacher's paper you're too lazy to read, his paper is based on the same sound principles of physics that was more than likely taught to you when you attended school.
@megan130 I didn't ask you what you "subscribe" to. What the heck are you blathering on about?! A high school physics teacher proved the experts got the data wrong! I don't have ADD or tourette's. One object 'falls' onto another...stay with me, this is about the law of falling bodies...falling...bodies. One 'falls' onto another...[action]
there is supposed to be a collision...a jolt [reaction] causing the falling [action] object/rigid block to momentarily decelerate. The top moved 'through'
@megan130 Call the smart scientists later today and ask them to confirm or refute your 'theory'...since you're obviously not going to read their reports a mere few clicks away from you. NIST 1.301. 975.6478. Let me guess, you've called "multiple" experts and government agencies before too. By the way, there was no mere "just poof" it's called massive crash/combustion" but why let facts get in the way of an uninformed 'theory'. Use your phone. After all, it is part of the scientific 'method'.
@megan130 I've already told you! And did so, because you are NOT applying the scientific method. What part of there was no 'mass' no plane available, no plane parts/mass in tact to transfer to the buildings are you having trouble getting through your head?! Repeating the same incorrect speculation over & over...that's stupid! One impact at 8:46 am, 'collapse' at 10:28, next impact at 9:03, collapse at 9:59am. There was no additional plane mass 'acting' on/adding to the force of collapse!
@megan130 I know you were referring to the damaged floors, the reports say the fireproofing was dislodged I'm not disputing that. What I am disputing is that the undamaged stronger, 'cold floors'...the "reaction" floors, the equal and opposite reaction floors didn't have their fireproofing dislodged. When the top block 'fell' the 2 (top block/bottom block/floors) did NOT collide! The top 'fell' through the bottom disappearing/disintegrating in seconds. Pick any video you like...
@megan130 For every action [force] there's an equal and opposite reaction [force]. The "reaction" of the initial "action" of the falling top block of either tower should have been a massive jolt causing the falling block [called the rigid block by the NIST] to momentarily decelerate! This third law fact was confirmed when I cold called two separate high school and college physics teachers, neither of whom were "truthers" or expected my calls. There was no jolt, no deceleration!
@megan130 You have a comprehension problem worse than the last person. I'll state it one last time, I already responded to this video. Look for it! You are ridiculously lazy!
Steel does not "MELT" until it reaches 2800 degrees. NIST [dot] gov frequently asked questions #7b-
"In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to fires".
Again, it's clear you don't know what the heck you're talking about, and you're too lazy to do anything about it!
@megan130 They looked at it, realized they were wrong, and 'modified' their report/position. You are wrong. Blissfully ignorant, lazy and wrong! As for the fire proofing, it was not 'dislodged' from the floors below the impact zones of both towers. Stop being lazy...READ!
@megan130 For someone who fancies themself versed in science, you are not applying the 'scientific method'. I have absolutely no idea why you'd invite yourself into a discourse without having done even a minimal review of the reports I cited from the National Institute of Standards and Technology. Trying to refute data you haven't even bothered to read with just your opinion is foolishly charlatan-esque. The data Mr. Chandler presented to the NIST proving they were wrong is on his channel.
@megan130 If you didn't know anyone who died there, then stupid flippant remarks like 'none of this matters' seem benign, even sensible to utter. For myself and others, quite the contrary, EVERYTHING about September 11th matters.
I do however, concur that the attacks achieved the desired result for "whomever".
@megan130 I've already responded to this video. Incase you forgot, you initiated dialogue about the science behind the collaps, NOT this video. I'm addressing what you started. As for you having seen "multiple videos" that's fascinating and irrelevant. What I stated was for you to specifically view the high school physics teacher's videos. Not "multiple" 'whatevers'. "Multiple" videos/documentaries were the cause of NIST being corrected, David Chandler. His videos are less than 10 minutes!
@megan130 According to your utterly absurd 'theory' the plane still had mass even though raging fires burned so hot that the building structure lost half it's strength but those same raging fires did not deplete in any way the remaining portions of the planes that you claim survived contrary to your own government's report. So for over an hour the fires eroded the building's integrity but not the debris from the planes on those very same floors.
@megan130 It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about, and have not even bothered to take the time to look at a mere 2 pages within the government report previously cited. Your own government reports don't even agree with you. You're not only wrong! You're obviously lazy and inimical to correction, even in the face of evidence contrary to what you assert! How charlatan of you to cherrypick the 3rd law. For every action [force] there's an equal and opposite reaction [force].
@megan130 It's not only being argued that the planes themselves didn't cause the collapse, I did what seemingly content to speculate/lazy people refuse to do...call the NIST to ask questions. The planes did not "themselves" cause collapse. Your refusal to accept that you are wrong is absolutely ridiculous. One hour passed from the time of crash to collapse, both planes were obliterated as they entered the towers.
@megan130 This magical "energy" you speak of did not affect the remaining 90+ and 75+ floors below. Newton's third law. Fire has never muted the laws of physics in a steel high rise building before. Read those 41 pages, do the calculations yourself and contact whomever taught you physics in high school and college. Let them have an "eyesight" look at those papers as well. A falling body does not weigh the same when it is in motion accelerating. Stand on a scale in an elevator.
@megan130 Mr. Chandler's paper is a mere 17 pages, actually 14 if you stop at the acknowledgments. The Missing Jolt: A Simple Refutation of the NIST- Bazant Collapse Hypothesis by Graeme MacQueen and Tony Szamboti is a 27 page paper that should be right up your alley science gal. You will note Mr. Chandler references their paper in his. The difference between the NIST, you and the others I've encountered here, is that at least they acknowledged they were wrong.
@megan130 For someone with a higher understanding of science, I'm surprised Newton's third law appears to mean nothing to you. I respectfully suggest you take the time to read Destruction of the World Trade Center North Tower and Fundamental Physics by David Chandler. He is the high school physics teacher responsible for the NIST begrudging admission that they were wrong about freefall. Hence their correction in #6 of the FAQ August 30, 2006 on their website. They've admitted their mistake you?
@megan130 Odd for you to reference eyesight. Watch any video, it need not be a truther documentary, buy a commemorative dvd from cnn, cspan, anywhere. As the tope begins to fall it disappears within 3-4 seconds. Yes, portions of the debris fell onto other buildings, but the 'rigid' block as the NIST calls it, is no more...it turns to dust right before your eyesight/eyes! Denying this fact is ridiculous. Forget the websites, call a high school and college physics teacher like I did.
@megan130 Since you mentioned eyesight, have a look at NC STAR 1-2B WTC, Investigation pages 295-296 and tell me that again. Even popular mechanics and their expert from purdue affirmed that the planes were obliterated. Watch 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction. Their illustration isn't much different from the NIST's. There was no plane mass accelerating anything. Look at the video! Twelve floors 'falling' destroying the lower 'cold' 90+ floors with no deceleration violates laws of physics.
I honestly don't recall how we wound up on this tangent, and I'm not going to scroll through the previous posts for a refresher, but you surely don't need anyone's permission to do so for yourself. You said you "think" wings were 'outside'...this is incorrect. Watch any video of both impacts, it is evident that both planes fully entered both towers including wings. Also, if you haven't already, I suggest you read the NIST report. Specifically, NC STAR 1-2B, WTC investigation pages 295-296.
Let's make it go Viral. This is a hard hitting documentary that doesn't bash the left or right and will easily be taken in by people. It truly can wake people up to the lies of MSM, politicians, and expose the puppet masters. Attach it to all of your out going emails! Make CD's pass them out. Re-post this elsewhere! Thumb this up if you want to take action and get our country back!
You seriously have a comprehension problem! How the heck did you misinterpret my 'reference' to the government having used Americans as guinea pigs, and twist that into what the heck law enforcement has done?! Did you even bother to take two seconds to look up the history channel dvd I cited?
@researchercomelately History channel is loaded with conspiracies, because it draws people attention, hell i even watch it sometimes because its interesting theories, but none of them add up. Watch some international TV like NGeo sometime, it'll surely wake you up from this slumber that you're in.
@63517489 Whatever you say web scholar. What part of get off your derriere to visit the National Archives did you not understand?! No corporate [fox]owned tv show is going to wake me up! Television did not awaken me, BOOKS have! The history channel program only verified what has been on the CIA's own website, and written about by numerous authors for decades, which is that the CIA, Army, and Navy have used americans as guinea pigs. Several lawsuits made this information available.
@63517489 If something has not "added up" it merely means you can not count! National Geographic also aired a program about the CIA experimenting on americans. Try looking at their site before you pretend to know anything about this easily verifiable area of history.
@researchercomelately IT doesnt matter how much of the archives you read... nothing will even make close to remote sense of what happened that day until you read all the facts, which is impossible until another 20 years.
And if you hate America so much, why dont you leave?
@63517489 I'll interpret this as your way of being unable to admit you were too lazy to look at nat geo's site even though you're fond of directing people to the channel. People who are too lazy to physically go to the NARA and are too dumb to even know how to use microfilm at a federal depository library always say things like "it doesn't matter how much you read". Meanwhile, sensible people know that to understand the present, we need to understand the past.
@63517489 Apparently you've forgotten what the inside of a classroom looks like. Take a trip to barnes & nobles...yes, that weird place with all the books, look at a map of the united states...notice the map does NOT say map of the CIA or Army! Neither the government, nor it's various alphabet/acronym agencies is THE united states/America! Revisiting/discussing events that happened is NOT "hate". If that's the case the CIA "hates" itself for having MK ULTRA documents on their site.
@63517489 Furthermore, unless you possess the 'deed' to this land, you have no right telling/suggesting that anyone leave it. You didn't name it...I doubt you even know who did, you didn't "discover it" so you sure as hell don't own it. However, you do have the right to keep your head skillfully lodged in your derriere. Elements within your beloved government that used to spray bacteria on americans in public with impunity, and used polonium and radiation on the public are the same behind 9/11.
@63517489 Arguing in the defense of people you don't know who passed laws making it legal to take money from you to give to foreign government's and corporations requiring you, your kids/or any you will have to pay that money back, don't give a damn about you, anyone you like or anyone you're related to! According to your 'ostrich' logic, even nat geo "hates" america for airing the decades old 'secret' history of government experimentation on it's citizens.
@63517489 I'll tell you who hates america...the people who smuggled NAZI's into the US, let them continue their 'experiments' on soldiers sprayed with nerve gas, given LSD used as guinea pigs without consent. I'll tell you who hates america...the people who recalled the planes initially enroute to rescue the crew aboard the USS Liberty when they were being attacked for more than 2 freakin' hours by the Israelis. I'll tell you who hates america, the people who set up the COG program/Rex 84 A.
@63517489 Nothing wrong with suspending the constitution huh? Supposedly, 'piece of paper' is the only thing standing between americans and a despot assuming the reins of power. As for the previolsy mentoned laws, Newton's three laws ceased to exist that day. According to the NIST. Specifically they assert that the falling towers gathered mass as they...'fell'. A falling body can NOT gather/gain the mass of another object coming into contact with it without decelerating. Read The Missing Jolts.
@researchercomelately I never said suspend it, in fact i said we should re-visit it. And its not just "a piece of paper" because those rules and regulations are embedded in the minds of every American, and I guarantee if the government tried to move into a hierarchy or dictatorship, they'd have the nation knocking down the door of the white house, they would include all the soldiers. We as soldiers dont fight for the government, we fight for the country, a country of people, not government.
@63517489 Then I suggest you read the full text of Rex 84 because it does in fact call for the constitution to be suspended under specific circumstances. As for the 'piece of paper' quip, that was sarcasm repeating bush jr.'s description of it back in '05...he reportedly said it was just a "goddamn piece of paper". With regard to americans not going for the 'paper' being suspended, they've got enough noc's & 'assets' to suppress any uprising from the populace. The public will accept it passively
@researchercomelately Yes, there are times where the constitution need to be suspended, in times like WW1, and WW2 are perfect examples, what they fear, is what the world fears, a third World War, which might I add, we are on the brink of.
@63517489 Suspending the only thing stopping a dictator from emerging is counter intuitive NAZI logic. That like saying there are times when your car doesn't need brakes, or there are times when it's ok to leave a child molester alone witht kids. Removing protections is NEVER "needed". Give up your liberty...see how long it will take to get it back. Those who give up their liberty deserve....
@researchercomelately That is not even close to relevant, removing freedoms temporarily to protect the majority of the citizens of the US, rather than have the entire nation crumple, due to overlooking just one thing.
@researchercomelately And, it did negatively accelerate as it fell, just not at a rate that is visible to the eye, if you check graphs and look at every 10 feet, there is in fact a decrease in speed, its just the mass of 20+ floors falling on one at once is just so overwhelming that it gives the image of no resistance, further the first 20 floors it fell through were weaking by 1500F+ flames, that brought it to 50% to 10% strength, and gave it all those floors to accelerate.
@63517489 Wrong. There was no "negative deceleration" and the NIST has admitted as much on their website and when I spoke to Michael Newman at NIST more than a month ago. During the NIST's open forum for public comment, a high school physics teacher named David Chandler proved with his graph/measurements of building 7 that there was no deceleration, this prompted them to 'change' their assessment and description of the fall to include freefall. FAQ August 30, 2006 question number 6.
@63517489 The NIST removed the video of their apparently embarrassing blunder from their website, however Mr. Chandler's video of the exchange in here on youtube, simply enter NIST finally admits freefall. Furthermore, only one tower had 20+ floors fall first [WTC 2- 28 floors], the other WTC tower 1 [12 floors]according to the NIST FAQ August 30, 2006 question #6. The top structures were destroyed as they fell into the lower floors, there was no 'pile driver' mass to force the other floors.
@63517489 Twenty floors below the impact zone were not engulfed, where on earth did you get that from when neither FEMA or NIST have said this?! It certainly isn't visible in any of the videos, or the released audio radio communications from firefighters in the buildings revealing in their own words that there were a few "small" pockets of fires...not 20 floor raging infernos! None of the survivors affirm your theory either. Try calling the NIST instead of guessing. At least read their report.
@63517489 Open up a new browser/screen, pull up the video of either tower 'collapsing' watch the video then re-read this nonsense you typed. The acceleration does not "STOP" until the building was no more. Until the building dust pile hit the ground! You don't know what the heck you're talking about and it's clear you haven't even taken the time to report the government's report. The government you defend. I'm glad you're not my lawyer!
@63517489 Call the NIST on Monday morning and run your utterly senseless devoid of any facts theory by them about plane mass...when they clearly concluded the plane was obliterated. Then scroll through your phone book, find a physics teacher at your local high school and college and run your theory by them about impact "stoppage" reduction, velocity. Buying a physics for dummies book would help you tremendously. That's not sarcasm, it helped me tremendously. As did the phone calls to experts.
@63517489 You do not know what you're talking about, and you are wrong! What's worse, is it seems you can not stop yourself. If you're going to even attempt to debunk/refute a 9/11 conspiracy theory, don't you think you oughta' know some basics about physics? And if you're going tot challenge anyone's research...not just me...anyone...shouldn't you actually conduct research? Phone calls, visits/interviews with physics teachers that aren't truthers & don't know you'll be calling.
9/11 wasn't an inside job. Nixon wasnt a crook and Adolf Hitler was only a campfire story,because governmental leaders care for everyones welfare.. Federal governments, especially the the US government, are exempt from lying, being power greedy,exempt from hurting strangers they dont care about, and it can never be proven otherwise.
Sounds pretty stupid but people beleive it every day
AndrewKH85 2 months ago
wow he knows its bullshit
firstgenchevelleman 3 months ago
It's well known that alqaeda (The Base)was created by CIA to fight the USSR in Afghanistan and Bin Laden was known by his operative name Tim Osman during that time and later.Most people don't know that when he was listed on the 10 most wanted FBI website his crimes did not include 9/11 only the Embassy bombing in Africa.Osama was used as the face of the boogeyman,he died probably before 2008 and maybe as far back as 2001,he was in a CIA hospital in Dubai in 2001 with bad kidneys,Think about it!
2wheels88 4 months ago
tommy lee jones?
MRhydrogen100 6 months ago
My GAWD but the people of USA Inc. have become so utterly stupidized ... for the most part they never even examined the case for how OBL is implicated in anything the US claims, or the fact that OBL was an agent of CIA intrigue and duplicity for over 20 years. What IS unequivocal is that agents and operatives within the Bush admin, Pentagon & CIA have repeatedly obscured, derailed, covered-up, thwarted and lied about US deep-cover involvement in events leading-up to 911. What's THAT all about?
starmanskye 6 months ago
It amazes me that American sheeple are so obtuse that they actually believe that one of strictest followers of Islam, who fought the Russians with the Mujaheddin, who worked directly with the CIA in the 80's, who gave up a plush millionaire's lifestyle to stay true to his religion, and who needed kidney dialisis on a weekly basis, is killed by an unknown group of men and is conveniently disposed of in the ocean just as Obama's numbers are falling and just as the next election cycle begins.
ToolFan68 7 months ago
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And then we are told that this ultra strict follower of Islam, a man who gave up all of his riches and was so devout that he even refused to wear jewelry, was found with a bunch of porno movies, cable t.v., video games, marijuana and no kidney dialysis machine???? And people are so brainwashed that they actually believe this shit? The world is fucked.
ToolFan68 7 months ago
"9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page.
(GO CHECK THE FBI WEBSITE, IT IS STILL NOT MENTIONED)
He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11." —FBI agent Rex Tomb, June 6, 2006
woodsprout 7 months ago
@woodsprout Correct I concur !!
2020starman 7 months ago
MISLEADING VIDEO TITLE. This man in the video former CIA Milt Bearden, clearly was saying that the idea of Osama Bin Ladin being trained by the CIA ~ WAS A MYTH.
woodsprout 7 months ago
the man said the cia had nothing to do with him, and that he wasn't really as far as terrorists go, not a great one. misleading video title.
pitchjazz 7 months ago
how old do i have to be to be trained like a rushen cia spie
patricia79633 7 months ago
9/11 Was in inside job.
When a crime is committed, detectives ask the question, "who would benefit from this?"
Who has benefitted from 9/11?
Defense contractors. NeoCon strategists. Oil companies. Israel. The Republican party. Zionists. Fundamentalists.
Who/what has been harmed by 9/11?
Our Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms. The Democratic party. Muslims. A limited defense budget. Habeas corpus. Progressive politics. Consumer prices. The middle class.
taxihotel 8 months ago 8
FALSE FLAG
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taxihotel 8 months ago
the US needs a mass revolution as in Egypt ,,because none of us is free and they lie at us every where and our brothers ,sisters ,friends,coussins die while they keep their own kids in palaces
we get your back in Egypt as you people supported our revolution ,you are wonderful people
rozza81 8 months ago
False Flag.
TheSaginawRejects 8 months ago 6
this definitely seems like a heavily edited video
zeppelin2224 8 months ago
LOL you truthers sure have trouble understanding what you read and hear. He said the notion that the CIA trained him was part of "the MYTH of bin-Laden" (1:52), "I was there when bin-Laden was there and...the CIA had nothing to do with him (2:11). Nice own goal!
fluxxus 8 months ago
Are you out of your mind putting this title on this video? He makes the case for the rumor of Osama defeating the Soviets and being trained & working for the CIA, and immediately says, "but he wasn't," either of those things. I don't know if he's lying, BUT I SURE KNOW YOU ARE! Clean the earwax out of your ears next time, please. Q-tips work! :)
Phil1stalk 8 months ago
is osama was trained with cia that best example not to let muslim become cia agent period dont let anybody who is muslim be a cia they dont belong evn in that security league is dangrous for usa in future
lebnen143 8 months ago
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If it wasn't for Trader Joes and conspiracy theorist there wouldn't be any reason left to live.
drewster85 8 months ago
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drewster85 8 months ago
Appeal to the European Union for the work of a meeting of the Security Council to pass a resolution to stop the massacres committed by the Syrian regime against his own people, after the United States lost U.S. credibility with the Arab and Muslim peoples that the role of the United States has a lot of peoples and the hope is now in the European Union, China, Russia and Turkey to stop the massacres that Exercised by terrorist regimes against the peoples Syria cry
da3skooom 8 months ago
GEORGE BUSH
DICK CHENEY
CIA
GOVERNMENT
BallzYou 8 months ago
@MrWhatwhat101: I Think their next plot will be the Olympic games in London , to start WW3, the same way they invented Obama, sorry I mean Osama, they will create another boggie man for their covert operations.
maria610421 8 months ago
@woodsprout Part 2. You can listen to the excellent speeches of Benjamin Freedman on IAmTheWitness or just YouTube his name. You will understand how the Zionists treated the very friendly Germans. They were kept prisoner, rightfully so because they blackmailed Germany twice as I explained before. In fact, there was a gym, an operahouse, even a brothel for the Jews, they treated these POW's very well thank you. Do your due diligence please Woodsprout and sprout MungBeans SunflowerSeeds.
artashes 9 months ago
@artashes Sorry I don't believe Germany had that much love for Palestine and secondly why did they murder soo many of their innocent Jewish citizens then??? What did THOSE Jews ever do to anyone? NOTHING! Actually I think what you are saying is really quite offensive!
coralreefuk 8 months ago
@OKlensecap
Yes, it is true that jet fuel cannot melt steel away. BUT, it can create what is called CREEP, which is when softens and loses its structural integrity. Proof:
(youtube.com/watch?v=CGsOkT__M7Y)
Imagine the TONS of weight pressing down on these wobbling beams as the dripping jet fuel spreads the fire and creep to the lower levels. It is obvious why they collapsed. Notice the one hit lower went first? Also, the owner of WTC7 admitted to setting fires for insurance money.
RIM420 9 months ago
Why couldn't you show the actual video??
irongiant20012001 9 months ago
OSAMA IS DEAD! ---Which one of them?
Tampinu 9 months ago
I'm really tired of hearing how sophisticated an oper. the 9/11 was..IT WASN'T ALL THAT SOPHISTICATED!!..These guys planned it out well in advance..All they really did was arm themselves, board the planes, at a time when security wasn't as tight as it is today, at different airports, at approx. the same hour, gained entry into the cockpits, force the pilots to fly where they were told, kill the pilots at the appropriate time, then take over and steer it into their targets. Not so sophisticated.
cheezer57 9 months ago
@cheezer57
It gets a little more sophisticated when you take a look at the physical impossibility that the impact of the planes had anything to do with the symmetrical, global collapse at free fall speed that both towers, plus building 7 (not hit by plane) experienced that day. It was indeed a sophisticated attack.
OKlensecap 9 months ago
@cheezer57 do you think you could take over the controls of those planes and steer them inot the targets?flying planes of that size doesnt seem to easy
smithdsmit 8 months ago
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@cheezer57 "arm themselves" with plastic knives and boxcutters, "board the planes" with stolen passports and without being on the passenger list. "at different airports, at approx. the same hour" no evidence of this happening. "force the pilots to fly where they were told" supposedly killed right away. "steer it into their targets" despite being terrible pilots.
morbidchid 1 month ago
osama bin laden didnt do shit to america the cia helped the afgans secretely fight off the russians in the 80s. THey created the mujihideen. Then, because bush wanted the fuckin oil, he turned on him. had us officials bomb twin towers and blame it on him. they put him in charge of mujihideen, after the bombing, they called him the leader of al queda. he was on the civilians of americas side. thats why the gov shut him up RIP bin laden if you think the oil thing im talkin about is crap look it up
shadsf342 9 months ago
@shadsf342 Where did you hear or read that? Wikipedia? The internet? Unless you bring some hard evidence, Shut the fuck up.
TheMexOfAmerica 9 months ago
@shadsf342, You hate America and need to be sunk at the bottom of the ocean with that Piece of Shit!
SGlide69 9 months ago
who gives a flying fuck, hes dead
SGlide69 9 months ago
@SGlide69 Yes he is dead.. but Al Qaida & the masterminds behind it are still around. Like his son said , he is the kindest of the bunch. God help us.
vixi92 9 months ago
@SGlide69 Dude, he died in December 2001, he was being treated by two American Doctors in Dubai for his Renal Kidney Failure. He was a very sick man on a dialysis machine. Over these many moons they've created fake photos. Dude its all over the internet. ISRAEL DID 911, check out the work of Christopher Bollyn and get a life because all these Khazar Ashkenazim jews are brewing another false flag. They've already been using Depleted Uranium in their predators in Pakistan. Iamthewitness website
artashes 9 months ago
@artashes, What next from you? The holocaust never happened? I don't know you so I can't judge but seriously dude? All the dumb conspiracy theorys are started by people who don't have a life or they want to make more excitment out of it. If the Jews really did do it? We would be over there killing some of them.
SGlide69 9 months ago
@SGlide69 Why do you think "terrorist" attack us?
denniandrew2002 9 months ago
@denniandrew2002, Because you touch yourself at night
SGlide69 9 months ago
@SGlide69 Wow, I should have known better. With a username like "SGlide69", I should have expected an ad hominem. It should have been obvious that he was 16 and spends many hours online debating. Or should I make a joke that he would like, "masturdebating". There you Mr. 69. A joke for you to add to your collection. I take no offense, neither should you, for I have been in your shoes at one point in my life, too.
denniandrew2002 9 months ago
@denniandrew2002, Dont feel stupid we all make mistakes.
SGlide69 9 months ago
@SGlide69 Well, I could come back with a joke, "like your parents did", but that's not nice and probably not true.
denniandrew2002 9 months ago
@denniandrew2002, Touche good sir....Touche
SGlide69 9 months ago
@SGlide69 YES the holocaust is fabricated 100%. Read the work of Robert Faurisson, David Cole, Bradley Smith, David Irving etc Those so-called Gas Chambers were delousing chambers against the Typhus germ. Those bones and bony people had Typhus and the Germans had to feed their soldiers first so none of the food got to the Jew Prisoners. Chess Grandmaster Bobby Fischer put it well "Fuck the Jews, they mutilate their children" Jews commit this worst form of child abuse, they make sex cripples!!!
artashes 9 months ago
@artashes, You and Mel gibson have fun with your theory
SGlide69 9 months ago
@artashes ...so as your theory goes, why were the Jews being held prisoner in the first place?
woodsprout 9 months ago
@woodsprout You have to understand dear person. The Jews LOVED the Germans even before WW1 then they didn't get their PALESTINE, they blackmailed the Germans. Again the same thing happened in WW2. Oppenheimer blacklisted Germany again because the Germans would not want them to gain access to Palestine so they fingered them again. Read the work of Ashkenazim Jew turned Christian Benjamin Freedman (Friedman originally but he changed his name to Freedman since he wanted OUT of Zionism)
artashes 9 months ago
@artashes Wow you must haved droped out in elemantary if you believe everything the internet says. I bet you believe what the tabloids magazines in the checkout counters say at the grocery store. Wake the fuck up, this world isn't a fairy tale not everything is planed by a higher order like everyone thinks its all bull shit. How about you go over to where the war is going on see how fucking real that shit is!
TheMexOfAmerica 9 months ago
@TheMexOfAmerica "droped" "planed"? And you tell me I dropped out of elementary school? Ashkenazim Jews are NOT Semites. Read Eustace Mullins THE SECRETS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE, these Banksta Gangsta's are the real terrorists and they are all Ashkenazim Jews (Khazars) they genocided over 40 Million White Czarist Russians, a million and a half Armenians, they used 911 as a pretext to go steal Afghan Opium and Iraqi Oil and are poised for Libya, Iran. YOU must be a Jewish Shill obfuscator
artashes 9 months ago
Even J.F.K.'s "assassin" Lee Oswald drew a paycheck from the C.I.A. ($200 monthly when gasoline was 20¢ per gallon). Osama Bin Laden was murdered, as the assassinated Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto reported to David Frost on 11-2-07. [He often sought kidney dialysis at U.S. military hospitals.] — I have a theory that America's dykes are being subsidized by Osama Bin Lesbian and his cadre of cave-diving muffers.
SufferInJuly 9 months ago
Funny how their Mouths are not moving, someone is trying to lie to the gullible
sjcpal 9 months ago
@sjcpal
its pictures and audio dummy i dont believe whats going on either bt ur comment is ignorant
NOME481 9 months ago
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sjcpal 9 months ago
Alot of what conspiracy tards START OFF WITH
is true.
the media IS corrupt,
it IS out for nothing but dollars
but its not in tandem with any mass mind control group.
that justs one stroke away from a bum screaming about it on street corners.
nobody gets this happened in Rome with templars.
this "conspiracy" stuff is nothing new,
so its hard for people to understand its nothing more then making sure you get up, go to work, and pay your bills.
THATS your NWO
ABOM420 9 months ago 3
@ABOM420 ie the media
BloodNorseGods 9 months ago
Why the constant camera sounds?
ChuckyBlackheart 9 months ago
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In honor of those troops who have brought this to the world's attention, I have put together a blog titled: "US Troops Protect Afghan Opium Fields - by Bill Woollam" Just Google that.
Why do we allow the US Administration to profit off of Afghan opium fields?
The US troops are telling us that they are commanded to protect the Afghan opium fields, which inevitably will go on the market for 19 million dollars a barrel.
Chidanandaji 9 months ago
ABOM420 9 months ago
@ABOM420 MK Ultra watch?v=i46RI2twVao
TheDeadFukinNinja 9 months ago
@TheDeadFukinNinja
its likeMK ultra, controllin ya brain,
suggestive thinking.Causin your perspective to change
ABOM420 9 months ago
@ABOM420 immortal tech..
So why did you say there is no this and that? are you a skeptic or what?
TheDeadFukinNinja 9 months ago
ABOM420 9 months ago
@TheDeadFukinNinja
its hard for people to understand this.
thats how whole cultures come out in rebellion against all forms of government.
most people hear technique,
but they just dont listen.
ABOM420 9 months ago
ABOM420 9 months ago
lol...if you look at this guy's channel name....it looks like 'intellectuals cum'
lol
RealityQuestioned 10 months ago 4
@RealityQuestioned
Lmao...
That is some funny shit, I bet you his videos do make intellectuals cum.
CODHVideos 9 months ago
Like in my favorite Comic Book,,"The Invisibles.",,when you get to the end,,you find out the heroes and villains are the same side. What side are you on?
3AtomicJabez8 10 months ago
"...My gut tells me we don't know the answer yet."
Heh. He KNOWS it wasn't OBL, but doesn't want to say. This on 9/12!!!
"An operation which was concealed from us for months beforehand.."
"If they didnt have an OsamaBinLaden, they'd invent one"
Wow. This message has been lost over time hasn't it?
Thanks for posting this video.
ShadesofScorpius 10 months ago
anything you should question; especially on CNN a media syndicate of the global elite and the CIA??!! Why dont they make the title BRAINWASH HERE
scheming8rythem 10 months ago
Is this weird editing supposed to appeal to the paranoid schizophrenics that believe Bin Laden is a CIA asset? Whoever uploaded this needs to listen more critically. Bearden said this is a MYTH!
Looter246 10 months ago
He may be dead, but I wonder if anyone would recognize him if he shaved the beard? As USisfuckedup said, he could be on some remote paradise island, or a very rich man in Saudi Arabia. Or, he may be alive, but then what would be the advantage of keeping Osama alive if you can just use a double. Is his influence in the royal family that strong? We already know how big an influence the Saudis have on the US. policy.
h3HuuSm3LtIt 10 months ago
I believe this man.
h3HuuSm3LtIt 10 months ago
The simple fact is, no one will ever know the truth about ANYTHING in the US.
Every little thing we see on American TV, websites, books, etc are highly questionable. It's always, almost the same story.....the person making that statement is either a Republican or whatever.....and he's making trouble because he wants to fuck the other party.
It's always A fighting with B.
Is non-Republican M.Moore telling the truth about Bush??? Dunno!
Classic Stupid Americans.
Sneaky Bastards.
USisfuckedup 10 months ago
Osama is probably living in a CIA safe house or stashed away in some exotic island where he's living comfortably and will never be found.
USisfuckedup 10 months ago
@USisfuckedup he's dead he aint living anymore.
maju786 10 months ago
@maju786
Osama dead???
Have you seen his body with your own eyes?
What concrete evidence do you hv that he is dead???
Gosh, you sound like a TYPICAL STUPID AMERICAN who's so easily deceived and manipulated by it's own fucked-up government. If the govt tells you to shoot some Niggers tmrw morning, you'll gladly do it too.
You're stupid and totally un-intelligent.
USisfuckedup 10 months ago
@USisfuckedup Benzir bhutto confirmed it and BBC edited out of their coverage.
maju786 10 months ago
fuck the media ! - 2pac
lilcruser 11 months ago 2
lol I havent heard the term Taliban in so long....
NadiaVision 11 months ago
If I'm capable of these atrocities while I have other talents, so is an old man with no morals and no talents, which are most of the people.
TheSpike5150 1 year ago
1:42...guilt
Jb72987 1 year ago
Bin Laden has never been charged with organizing or directing the 911 attacks. There's substantial evidence the OBL tapes were heavily manipulated, mistransdlated and others were outright fabricated with poor look-alike stand-ins. Cheney admitted OBL wasn't responsible for 911. Yet that was justification for attacking, invading & occupying Afghanistan. Taliban declared their readiness to deport OBL on US's giving evidence. Now we know why US refused. US had planned attack since Aug, 2001.
starmanskye 1 year ago 3
im not very keen on the newer generation of al-Qaeda because you dont JUST attack for nothing,there has to be a reason or you will commit a sin (im muslim) there should ALWAYS be a reason because if you kill an innocent for nothing or start a war FOR NOTHING then its just stupid because you will kill innocents in your country after america attacks arabia or something i dont know much about the bin laden crisis but what i do know is that he caused lives to be lost for no reason.
tillybete 1 year ago
The thing that astounds the crap outta me is that people are still too stupid to know that they are always being lied to by the government and media! Don't believe anything these bastards say until you check it out!
talon115 1 year ago 93
@talon115 the same thing about religion. Even if you do not believe in God (well, I do I am Christian). It isnt hard to recognize that the "leaders of the great religions" totally are in the same boat....
As Talon said: Don't believe anything these bastards say until you check it out!
MartialIrie 10 months ago
@talon115 Whats even worse is the people who see 1, youtube conspiravy theory. They automatically belive it when it has less bases for truth then the media.
meronmotors 8 months ago
The following should be mandatory reading materials for 20th C American history students in high school:
1. Frank Church Senate Committee Hearings. 1975
2. Philip Agee, Inside the Company: CIA Diary. 1975
3. Daniel Ellsberg. Papers on the War. 1972
musicalidea 8 months ago in playlist New World Order
@talon115 what bill orielly is god....hehehe
mrbigtruth34 6 months ago
Corporate Media is so full of shit !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me1now 1 year ago 71
Before they were afraid of the Jews, and now the Muslims. Bollocks.
stevaq 1 year ago
then the cia scared the us people there for they are the terrorists
PureWhite91 1 year ago
The title of this video is an outright lie. The CIA rep says the exact opposite, he says that it is a MYTH that the CIA trained Osama Bin Laden. The CIA never ever trained Osama Bin Laden. Not in the 80s, not ever. They never gave him any funding, even in the 80s funding only went to afghan muj not to the arab jihadist group.
The uploader of the video must be deaf. Listen to 2:12 and it is clear, he says "the CIA had nothing to do with him".
waltereg0 1 year ago
@waltereg0 he says he talks about it dumbass, the title says they talk about it, not that their admitting it or whatever... fuck your retarded
Melrodir 1 year ago
@Melrodir Hey, at least I know how to write "you're" instead of "your". Way to write like a retard. Insult - FAIL.
waltereg0 1 year ago
@waltereg0 when in doubt find a grammatical error to provide evidence of your superior intelligence... buddy that doesnt remove the fact that you managed to misread the fucking title. Oh and I dont give a fuck about grammatical error, so efnerjkgrwkjgbwrkjg
Melrodir 1 year ago
@Melrodir I didn't misread the title. The title says they will talk about OBL having been trained by the CIA, & OBL has not been trained by the CIA. It doesn't say "CIA talks about whether OBL was trained by the CIA". Are you claiming to know what the intention of the uploader was when he titled the video? Because it is clear from his conspiracy-type comments that he meant the title to suggest exactly how I read it.
Insult - FAIL
Grammar - FAIL
Reading Comprehension - FAIL
Retard = YOU
waltereg0 1 year ago
@waltereg0 im glad someones eyes are not blinded like many others
robbysharolaid 1 year ago
@waltereg0
Do you believe OBL was responsible for 9/11? If so why did he deny it twice? Has his 'confession' video ever been proven authentic? Did Jeff Stein just report on two ex-CIA admitting to making a fake OBL video? How many decades have the Bush/Bin Laden families been close friends/business partners? Weren't two (or more) of OBL's brothers in the US on 9/11 and later allowed to leave? Wasn't OBL treated in an American hospital in Dubai before 911 while already wanted by the FBI?
kc0696 1 year ago
@kc0696 1)OBL was never treated in a hospital in Dubai. Just a myth, debunked long ago. 2)the BL family is giant, OBL has dozens of brothers, the USA can't arrest someone just for being related to OBL. OBL himself has never had a relationship with the Bush family. 3) Stein's article says that video was never released. There's no reason to think the "confession" is fake, since it looks just like him in other videos, though the indoor lighting is darker. OBL's denials are not credible.
waltereg0 1 year ago
@waltereg0
Hahahaha! Now that's rich, they made the video but never released it...never mind WHY they were making it in the first place. And they did say the program was later taken over by the military. Hmmm...but you say his 'confession' is still legitimate while BOTH denials are 'not credible'. CLASSIC.
As for the Bush / BL families, you are even insulting your own intelligence by pretending that has no relevance or that they shouldn't have been detained/quetsioned B4 leaving the US.
kc0696 1 year ago
@kc0696 OBL's confession is legitimate, it was spoken to fellow jihadis. His denials were to the world press. They are not credible, because we know for a fact that Al Qaeda carried out the 9/11 attacks: Atta's cell was AQ. The BL relatives were detained & questioned before leaving the USA. You get too much junk info from M Moore movies and A Jones blogs. You have an exaggerated notion of your own intellect but you lack the ability to be skeptical of bogus sources/paranoid fantasies.
waltereg0 1 year ago
@waltereg0
Man you are a true comic. I guess M. Moore and A. Jones have no credibility but the US GOV. does?? What are your thoughts on Operation Northwoods, or is independent thought still possible?
As for the US gov's investigative philosophy of..."its true because we say so", even though you accept this, let me show you why its flawed. For ex: you say the BL's were detained and questioned? Then I say, "OK, show me a source for that". Now you shit your pants because there isn't one.
kc0696 1 year ago
@kc0696 This is what I mean by your gullibility.
"Twenty-two of the 26 people on the Bin Ladin flight were interviewed by the FBI. Many were asked detailed questions. None of the passengers stated that they had any recent contact with Usama Bin Ladin or knew anything about terrorist activity... The FBI checked a variety of databases for information on the Bin Ladin flight passengers and searched the aircraft". -9/11 Commission
Also note that flight was on 9/20, long after US airspace opened.
waltereg0 1 year ago
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@waltereg0 Just because all of you FUCKTARDS are IGNORANT,FACT-FREE,MORONS who never read & know NOTHING about 911 & the Government's LIES-don't blame US. lol
PROOF of FBI building the 1st bomb in the WTC in 1993.
Save this folks-this is the longest conversation taped by Emad Salem of John Anticev FBI agent to cover his own back.
911 was an inside job-BOTH TIMES.
FBI INTELLIGENCE(lol)OPERATION
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cadu1995 1 year ago
@waltereg0
Uhhh...so WHY was the CIA/US military making fake OBL videos?
And I guess M. Moore /A. Jones have no credibility but the US gov. does? Hmm, how about Op. Northwoods smart guy, can you formulate an indpendent thought of your own on that FALSE FLAG OP? How about the Gulf of Tonkin LIE that killed 58,000 soldiers and countless innocent vietnemese?? How about the '93 WTC bombing we KNOW was set up by FBI??? How about JFK's murder, now a PROVEN gov. conspiracy??
kc0696 1 year ago
@kc0696 Now you're just ranting a bunch of crazy lies. 93 WTC bombing was real, not set up. It has been thoroughly proven that Oswald was the sole assassin of JFK. Northwoods was nothing more than a bad plan that was rejected, and Gen Lemnitzer who endorsed it was demoted shortly after, The Gulf Of Tonkin was a simple mistake, which had followed a previous incident of an actual attack by NVA gunboats resulting in understandably nervous radar operators.
Anything else or is it time for your meds?
waltereg0 1 year ago
@waltereg0
Yes yes yes! Now that's it, never have I seen a case of deny, distort and rationalize like this one. I guess I'll tell you the good news; You've just been awarded cyber-spook of the month! Now don't be modest, the miles and miles of spinning you do every day speaks for itself.
Your plackard will arrive in the mail. We like to do something cute with the O's in 'SPOOK' and make them look like little eyes watching you, hope you like it too!
NOW BACK TO WORK TRAITOR!
kc0696 1 year ago
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@waltereg0 PROOF of FBI building the 1st bomb in the WTC in 1993.
Save this folks-this is the longest conversation taped by Emad Salem of John Anticev FBI agent to cover his own back.
911 was an inside job-BOTH TIMES.
FBI INTELLIGENCE(lol)OPERATION
watch?v=KmcidzFa4hg&feature=related
cadu1995 1 year ago
@waltereg0 ... please go on blackop radio, or rbn, or oracle and debate any of their hosts .... you are nothing but a shill exposed
pt1gard 1 year ago
@pt1gard I'm sure I could debate any of those shows and rip them apart. Debating tinfoilers is relatively easy since they have a very shallow understanding of history.
waltereg0 1 year ago 2
@waltereg0 ... lmfao, can you help me with the lavonn affair, uss liberty, panama, mccollum memo .... take your shillyness elsewhere, scumbucket
pt1gard 1 year ago
@pt1gard ah, the shrill cry of "shill!". Why is it that all truthers expect their sincerity to be without question, yet anyone if a differing opinion must be a liar?
Looter246 10 months ago
@waltereg0 he also says he doesnt believe it was bin laden : )
RoomMaster2010 1 year ago
@megan130 What the heck is a short "once over" either you read it thoroughly and carefully or you don't. Newton's Laws don't depend on what the designers/engineers have to say. The top block fell into the lower floors with no "reaction" from the lower floors...no jolt...no momentary deceleration. Falling essentially at freefall- NIST FAQ #6 August 30, 2006.
No resistance. Any high school or college physics teacher will tell you this does not happen naturally.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 This is bordering on stupidity. The high school teacher's paper 'proved' that the NIST was wrong, that's what it proved. And they corrected their blunder after reviewing his data. I don't think I've ever had such a repetitive and utterly dumb discussion with a charlatan this ignorant in my entire life. Did you not learn 'high school physics?' They're not chandler's laws, Mr. Chandler taught Newton's Laws etc. In your cyber avatar you get to be smarter than the experts, Newton & teacher
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 I don't care if you're Red Adaire, or you're related to him, fire has never caused a steel framed high rise building to collapse...EVER! There is no things "might be" different 100 stories up...they are and have historically "been different". Fires in Madrid, Venezuela and china burned for upwards of 10 hours, one burned for 24 hours no collapse. More than 100 firefighters gave statements that they heard, saw and felt explosions. 9/11 Oral Histories-from your former brethren.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 The main problem with humans like you, is you think that all of mankind is afflicted with your very same 'limitations'. Whatever you can't do..."NO ONE" can. You're the one with the "theory" what we researchers have done is read the 'official' reports. As for the high school teacher's paper you're too lazy to read, his paper is based on the same sound principles of physics that was more than likely taught to you when you attended school.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 I didn't ask you what you "subscribe" to. What the heck are you blathering on about?! A high school physics teacher proved the experts got the data wrong! I don't have ADD or tourette's. One object 'falls' onto another...stay with me, this is about the law of falling bodies...falling...bodies. One 'falls' onto another...[action]
there is supposed to be a collision...a jolt [reaction] causing the falling [action] object/rigid block to momentarily decelerate. The top moved 'through'
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 Call the smart scientists later today and ask them to confirm or refute your 'theory'...since you're obviously not going to read their reports a mere few clicks away from you. NIST 1.301. 975.6478. Let me guess, you've called "multiple" experts and government agencies before too. By the way, there was no mere "just poof" it's called massive crash/combustion" but why let facts get in the way of an uninformed 'theory'. Use your phone. After all, it is part of the scientific 'method'.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 I've already told you! And did so, because you are NOT applying the scientific method. What part of there was no 'mass' no plane available, no plane parts/mass in tact to transfer to the buildings are you having trouble getting through your head?! Repeating the same incorrect speculation over & over...that's stupid! One impact at 8:46 am, 'collapse' at 10:28, next impact at 9:03, collapse at 9:59am. There was no additional plane mass 'acting' on/adding to the force of collapse!
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 I know you were referring to the damaged floors, the reports say the fireproofing was dislodged I'm not disputing that. What I am disputing is that the undamaged stronger, 'cold floors'...the "reaction" floors, the equal and opposite reaction floors didn't have their fireproofing dislodged. When the top block 'fell' the 2 (top block/bottom block/floors) did NOT collide! The top 'fell' through the bottom disappearing/disintegrating in seconds. Pick any video you like...
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 For every action [force] there's an equal and opposite reaction [force]. The "reaction" of the initial "action" of the falling top block of either tower should have been a massive jolt causing the falling block [called the rigid block by the NIST] to momentarily decelerate! This third law fact was confirmed when I cold called two separate high school and college physics teachers, neither of whom were "truthers" or expected my calls. There was no jolt, no deceleration!
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 You have a comprehension problem worse than the last person. I'll state it one last time, I already responded to this video. Look for it! You are ridiculously lazy!
Steel does not "MELT" until it reaches 2800 degrees. NIST [dot] gov frequently asked questions #7b-
"In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to fires".
Again, it's clear you don't know what the heck you're talking about, and you're too lazy to do anything about it!
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 They looked at it, realized they were wrong, and 'modified' their report/position. You are wrong. Blissfully ignorant, lazy and wrong! As for the fire proofing, it was not 'dislodged' from the floors below the impact zones of both towers. Stop being lazy...READ!
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 For someone who fancies themself versed in science, you are not applying the 'scientific method'. I have absolutely no idea why you'd invite yourself into a discourse without having done even a minimal review of the reports I cited from the National Institute of Standards and Technology. Trying to refute data you haven't even bothered to read with just your opinion is foolishly charlatan-esque. The data Mr. Chandler presented to the NIST proving they were wrong is on his channel.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 If you didn't know anyone who died there, then stupid flippant remarks like 'none of this matters' seem benign, even sensible to utter. For myself and others, quite the contrary, EVERYTHING about September 11th matters.
I do however, concur that the attacks achieved the desired result for "whomever".
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 I've already responded to this video. Incase you forgot, you initiated dialogue about the science behind the collaps, NOT this video. I'm addressing what you started. As for you having seen "multiple videos" that's fascinating and irrelevant. What I stated was for you to specifically view the high school physics teacher's videos. Not "multiple" 'whatevers'. "Multiple" videos/documentaries were the cause of NIST being corrected, David Chandler. His videos are less than 10 minutes!
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 According to your utterly absurd 'theory' the plane still had mass even though raging fires burned so hot that the building structure lost half it's strength but those same raging fires did not deplete in any way the remaining portions of the planes that you claim survived contrary to your own government's report. So for over an hour the fires eroded the building's integrity but not the debris from the planes on those very same floors.
Absolutely brilliant science girl.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about, and have not even bothered to take the time to look at a mere 2 pages within the government report previously cited. Your own government reports don't even agree with you. You're not only wrong! You're obviously lazy and inimical to correction, even in the face of evidence contrary to what you assert! How charlatan of you to cherrypick the 3rd law. For every action [force] there's an equal and opposite reaction [force].
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 It's not only being argued that the planes themselves didn't cause the collapse, I did what seemingly content to speculate/lazy people refuse to do...call the NIST to ask questions. The planes did not "themselves" cause collapse. Your refusal to accept that you are wrong is absolutely ridiculous. One hour passed from the time of crash to collapse, both planes were obliterated as they entered the towers.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 This magical "energy" you speak of did not affect the remaining 90+ and 75+ floors below. Newton's third law. Fire has never muted the laws of physics in a steel high rise building before. Read those 41 pages, do the calculations yourself and contact whomever taught you physics in high school and college. Let them have an "eyesight" look at those papers as well. A falling body does not weigh the same when it is in motion accelerating. Stand on a scale in an elevator.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 Mr. Chandler's paper is a mere 17 pages, actually 14 if you stop at the acknowledgments. The Missing Jolt: A Simple Refutation of the NIST- Bazant Collapse Hypothesis by Graeme MacQueen and Tony Szamboti is a 27 page paper that should be right up your alley science gal. You will note Mr. Chandler references their paper in his. The difference between the NIST, you and the others I've encountered here, is that at least they acknowledged they were wrong.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 For someone with a higher understanding of science, I'm surprised Newton's third law appears to mean nothing to you. I respectfully suggest you take the time to read Destruction of the World Trade Center North Tower and Fundamental Physics by David Chandler. He is the high school physics teacher responsible for the NIST begrudging admission that they were wrong about freefall. Hence their correction in #6 of the FAQ August 30, 2006 on their website. They've admitted their mistake you?
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 Odd for you to reference eyesight. Watch any video, it need not be a truther documentary, buy a commemorative dvd from cnn, cspan, anywhere. As the tope begins to fall it disappears within 3-4 seconds. Yes, portions of the debris fell onto other buildings, but the 'rigid' block as the NIST calls it, is no more...it turns to dust right before your eyesight/eyes! Denying this fact is ridiculous. Forget the websites, call a high school and college physics teacher like I did.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@megan130 Since you mentioned eyesight, have a look at NC STAR 1-2B WTC, Investigation pages 295-296 and tell me that again. Even popular mechanics and their expert from purdue affirmed that the planes were obliterated. Watch 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction. Their illustration isn't much different from the NIST's. There was no plane mass accelerating anything. Look at the video! Twelve floors 'falling' destroying the lower 'cold' 90+ floors with no deceleration violates laws of physics.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
I honestly don't recall how we wound up on this tangent, and I'm not going to scroll through the previous posts for a refresher, but you surely don't need anyone's permission to do so for yourself. You said you "think" wings were 'outside'...this is incorrect. Watch any video of both impacts, it is evident that both planes fully entered both towers including wings. Also, if you haven't already, I suggest you read the NIST report. Specifically, NC STAR 1-2B, WTC investigation pages 295-296.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
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UNITED WE FALL
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Let's make it go Viral. This is a hard hitting documentary that doesn't bash the left or right and will easily be taken in by people. It truly can wake people up to the lies of MSM, politicians, and expose the puppet masters. Attach it to all of your out going emails! Make CD's pass them out. Re-post this elsewhere! Thumb this up if you want to take action and get our country back!
emerson24 1 year ago
You seriously have a comprehension problem! How the heck did you misinterpret my 'reference' to the government having used Americans as guinea pigs, and twist that into what the heck law enforcement has done?! Did you even bother to take two seconds to look up the history channel dvd I cited?
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@researchercomelately History channel is loaded with conspiracies, because it draws people attention, hell i even watch it sometimes because its interesting theories, but none of them add up. Watch some international TV like NGeo sometime, it'll surely wake you up from this slumber that you're in.
63517489 1 year ago
@63517489 Whatever you say web scholar. What part of get off your derriere to visit the National Archives did you not understand?! No corporate [fox]owned tv show is going to wake me up! Television did not awaken me, BOOKS have! The history channel program only verified what has been on the CIA's own website, and written about by numerous authors for decades, which is that the CIA, Army, and Navy have used americans as guinea pigs. Several lawsuits made this information available.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@63517489 If something has not "added up" it merely means you can not count! National Geographic also aired a program about the CIA experimenting on americans. Try looking at their site before you pretend to know anything about this easily verifiable area of history.
channel.nationalgeographic [dot] com/episode/cia-secret-experiments-3313/Overview
Fact finding is done by just sitting on your tush watching tv. Start with The Medusa File by former marine Craig Roberts.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@researchercomelately IT doesnt matter how much of the archives you read... nothing will even make close to remote sense of what happened that day until you read all the facts, which is impossible until another 20 years.
And if you hate America so much, why dont you leave?
63517489 1 year ago
@63517489 I'll interpret this as your way of being unable to admit you were too lazy to look at nat geo's site even though you're fond of directing people to the channel. People who are too lazy to physically go to the NARA and are too dumb to even know how to use microfilm at a federal depository library always say things like "it doesn't matter how much you read". Meanwhile, sensible people know that to understand the present, we need to understand the past.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@63517489 Apparently you've forgotten what the inside of a classroom looks like. Take a trip to barnes & nobles...yes, that weird place with all the books, look at a map of the united states...notice the map does NOT say map of the CIA or Army! Neither the government, nor it's various alphabet/acronym agencies is THE united states/America! Revisiting/discussing events that happened is NOT "hate". If that's the case the CIA "hates" itself for having MK ULTRA documents on their site.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@63517489 Furthermore, unless you possess the 'deed' to this land, you have no right telling/suggesting that anyone leave it. You didn't name it...I doubt you even know who did, you didn't "discover it" so you sure as hell don't own it. However, you do have the right to keep your head skillfully lodged in your derriere. Elements within your beloved government that used to spray bacteria on americans in public with impunity, and used polonium and radiation on the public are the same behind 9/11.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@63517489 Arguing in the defense of people you don't know who passed laws making it legal to take money from you to give to foreign government's and corporations requiring you, your kids/or any you will have to pay that money back, don't give a damn about you, anyone you like or anyone you're related to! According to your 'ostrich' logic, even nat geo "hates" america for airing the decades old 'secret' history of government experimentation on it's citizens.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@63517489 I'll tell you who hates america...the people who smuggled NAZI's into the US, let them continue their 'experiments' on soldiers sprayed with nerve gas, given LSD used as guinea pigs without consent. I'll tell you who hates america...the people who recalled the planes initially enroute to rescue the crew aboard the USS Liberty when they were being attacked for more than 2 freakin' hours by the Israelis. I'll tell you who hates america, the people who set up the COG program/Rex 84 A.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@researchercomelately There's noting wrong with Rex 84, please explain to me how exactly the laws of physics ceased to exist on September 11, 2001.
63517489 1 year ago
@63517489 Nothing wrong with suspending the constitution huh? Supposedly, 'piece of paper' is the only thing standing between americans and a despot assuming the reins of power. As for the previolsy mentoned laws, Newton's three laws ceased to exist that day. According to the NIST. Specifically they assert that the falling towers gathered mass as they...'fell'. A falling body can NOT gather/gain the mass of another object coming into contact with it without decelerating. Read The Missing Jolts.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@researchercomelately I never said suspend it, in fact i said we should re-visit it. And its not just "a piece of paper" because those rules and regulations are embedded in the minds of every American, and I guarantee if the government tried to move into a hierarchy or dictatorship, they'd have the nation knocking down the door of the white house, they would include all the soldiers. We as soldiers dont fight for the government, we fight for the country, a country of people, not government.
63517489 1 year ago
@63517489 Then I suggest you read the full text of Rex 84 because it does in fact call for the constitution to be suspended under specific circumstances. As for the 'piece of paper' quip, that was sarcasm repeating bush jr.'s description of it back in '05...he reportedly said it was just a "goddamn piece of paper". With regard to americans not going for the 'paper' being suspended, they've got enough noc's & 'assets' to suppress any uprising from the populace. The public will accept it passively
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@researchercomelately Yes, there are times where the constitution need to be suspended, in times like WW1, and WW2 are perfect examples, what they fear, is what the world fears, a third World War, which might I add, we are on the brink of.
63517489 1 year ago
@63517489 Suspending the only thing stopping a dictator from emerging is counter intuitive NAZI logic. That like saying there are times when your car doesn't need brakes, or there are times when it's ok to leave a child molester alone witht kids. Removing protections is NEVER "needed". Give up your liberty...see how long it will take to get it back. Those who give up their liberty deserve....
I'm sure you know the rest.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@researchercomelately That is not even close to relevant, removing freedoms temporarily to protect the majority of the citizens of the US, rather than have the entire nation crumple, due to overlooking just one thing.
63517489 1 year ago
@63517489 There is no such thing as "temporarily" removing freedoms. Any dictator will affirm this obvious fact.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@researchercomelately And, it did negatively accelerate as it fell, just not at a rate that is visible to the eye, if you check graphs and look at every 10 feet, there is in fact a decrease in speed, its just the mass of 20+ floors falling on one at once is just so overwhelming that it gives the image of no resistance, further the first 20 floors it fell through were weaking by 1500F+ flames, that brought it to 50% to 10% strength, and gave it all those floors to accelerate.
63517489 1 year ago
@63517489 Wrong. There was no "negative deceleration" and the NIST has admitted as much on their website and when I spoke to Michael Newman at NIST more than a month ago. During the NIST's open forum for public comment, a high school physics teacher named David Chandler proved with his graph/measurements of building 7 that there was no deceleration, this prompted them to 'change' their assessment and description of the fall to include freefall. FAQ August 30, 2006 question number 6.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@63517489 The NIST removed the video of their apparently embarrassing blunder from their website, however Mr. Chandler's video of the exchange in here on youtube, simply enter NIST finally admits freefall. Furthermore, only one tower had 20+ floors fall first [WTC 2- 28 floors], the other WTC tower 1 [12 floors]according to the NIST FAQ August 30, 2006 question #6. The top structures were destroyed as they fell into the lower floors, there was no 'pile driver' mass to force the other floors.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@63517489 Twenty floors below the impact zone were not engulfed, where on earth did you get that from when neither FEMA or NIST have said this?! It certainly isn't visible in any of the videos, or the released audio radio communications from firefighters in the buildings revealing in their own words that there were a few "small" pockets of fires...not 20 floor raging infernos! None of the survivors affirm your theory either. Try calling the NIST instead of guessing. At least read their report.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@researchercomelately physforum com/index php?showtopic=4299
Block (15-20 floors) 100% Mass
Block (another 20 or so floors, that are 10% strength + mass of plane) <10% resistance +100% mass added
Block (20) impact, pushed through as if nothing was there
Block (20) second impact, starts to stop the acceleration
Block (20) stopping the acceleration
Block (20) ground, stops all velocity
After the 80th floor, it stopped accelerating..., thus a negative acceleration
63517489 1 year ago
@63517489 Open up a new browser/screen, pull up the video of either tower 'collapsing' watch the video then re-read this nonsense you typed. The acceleration does not "STOP" until the building was no more. Until the building dust pile hit the ground! You don't know what the heck you're talking about and it's clear you haven't even taken the time to report the government's report. The government you defend. I'm glad you're not my lawyer!
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@63517489 Call the NIST on Monday morning and run your utterly senseless devoid of any facts theory by them about plane mass...when they clearly concluded the plane was obliterated. Then scroll through your phone book, find a physics teacher at your local high school and college and run your theory by them about impact "stoppage" reduction, velocity. Buying a physics for dummies book would help you tremendously. That's not sarcasm, it helped me tremendously. As did the phone calls to experts.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@63517489 You do not know what you're talking about, and you are wrong! What's worse, is it seems you can not stop yourself. If you're going to even attempt to debunk/refute a 9/11 conspiracy theory, don't you think you oughta' know some basics about physics? And if you're going tot challenge anyone's research...not just me...anyone...shouldn't you actually conduct research? Phone calls, visits/interviews with physics teachers that aren't truthers & don't know you'll be calling.