yes we know the state in east germany was behind this but some of you think that because it's a free market here then we have togive everybody the benefit of the doubt. we have loads of cheaters here.
postscript - we know there were plenty of positive drug tests in LA 84 but it was covered up because they wanted to show that the sport was clean when the commies didn't turn up. what a bunch of hypocrites!!!!
question - how do you know the non eastern bloc runners were not taking drugs just because they were running for themselves? Can anybody say all western runners were clean. If that is what people think they they are pretty naive.
What about Carl Lewis in 88? he should have not gone to Seoul
@martynhanson "how do you know the non eastern bloc runners were not taking drugs" Asking to prove the negative, that's impressive logic.
I think the important point is that the Eastern Bloc drug program was systematic and comprehensive while non-Eastern Bloc drug involvement is episodic. Do you have evidence to dispute this?
Hmmm - Waldemar ist nicht gerade ein schöner Name, finde ich. Wäre mal interessant zu erfahren, wie viele Männer, die im Sommer 1980 in Ostdeutschland geboren wurden, nun tatsächlich Waldemar heißen.
Viele sind es wohl nicht - nach meiner Erfahrung heißen sie meistens Mike/Maik, Marcel, Sylvio, Enrico oder René. Und ihre Freundinnen heißen Peggy, Mandy, Sandy oder Schackeliine.
Was nicht heißen soll, dass es hier in Westdeutschland originellere Kindernamen gibt. *gg*
it´s always easy to say the others are all doped when you are too lazy
MrKetoujin 1 month ago
GREAT RUNNER!
you can't run on just dope!
If you have ever run/competitively/ you can see the loads of miles in him!!!
lantaykalman 7 months ago
Gibt es jemanden, der nach ihm benannt wurde?
Krebsmensch2 1 year ago
ok the commies have gone. Has drugs in sport??????? Where is your excuse now? Sport is ruined and so dirty that you....oh forget it
martynhanson 1 year ago
yes we know the state in east germany was behind this but some of you think that because it's a free market here then we have togive everybody the benefit of the doubt. we have loads of cheaters here.
martynhanson 2 years ago
this guy should man up and give frank shorter the gold medal he deserves. lasse viren deserses the bronze!!!!!!!!!!
brianpcurran 2 years ago
Viren finished 5th in that marathon, so he would have gotten 4th, not the bronze
kingwilson06ad 2 years ago
WALDEMAAARR!!!!!
JackWhite90 3 years ago
postscript - we know there were plenty of positive drug tests in LA 84 but it was covered up because they wanted to show that the sport was clean when the commies didn't turn up. what a bunch of hypocrites!!!!
martynhanson 3 years ago
@martynhanson
he cheated. read fausts gold. see what happened to those women. sickning.
brianpcurran 2 years ago
question - how do you know the non eastern bloc runners were not taking drugs just because they were running for themselves? Can anybody say all western runners were clean. If that is what people think they they are pretty naive.
What about Carl Lewis in 88? he should have not gone to Seoul
martynhanson 3 years ago
@martynhanson "how do you know the non eastern bloc runners were not taking drugs" Asking to prove the negative, that's impressive logic.
I think the important point is that the Eastern Bloc drug program was systematic and comprehensive while non-Eastern Bloc drug involvement is episodic. Do you have evidence to dispute this?
chrismca 1 year ago
Doper.
Proven.
B
Bluestard 3 years ago
Oder, wie der eingefleischte Harry-Potter-Fan sagen würde: "Liebe junge Väter - haben Sie Mut! Nennen Sie ihre neugeborenen Söhne ruhig WOLDEMORT!"
stipefan11 3 years ago
Hmmm - Waldemar ist nicht gerade ein schöner Name, finde ich. Wäre mal interessant zu erfahren, wie viele Männer, die im Sommer 1980 in Ostdeutschland geboren wurden, nun tatsächlich Waldemar heißen.
Viele sind es wohl nicht - nach meiner Erfahrung heißen sie meistens Mike/Maik, Marcel, Sylvio, Enrico oder René. Und ihre Freundinnen heißen Peggy, Mandy, Sandy oder Schackeliine.
Was nicht heißen soll, dass es hier in Westdeutschland originellere Kindernamen gibt. *gg*
stipefan11 3 years ago
doper
marshwoodplayerzack 3 years ago
"doper"....like every non-American who wins a medal, right?
*lool*
stipefan11 3 years ago 4
ein großer sportmoment!
5 sterne!
basketstim 3 years ago 4
Cheater.
zim83 3 years ago
so so
06capri02 3 years ago
too bad the East German government cheated and used performance inhancers on their athletes..Shorter deserves his gold from 1976
fr556 4 years ago
Frank Shorter won Olympic Gold in 1972, not in 1976.
stipefan11 3 years ago
no i meant Shorter should've won gold in 76, but the East Germans cheated so he deserves it
fr556 3 years ago
You mean doping?
Well - it´s possible, of course.
stipefan11 3 years ago
No, not "possible," its documented.
chrismca 2 years ago
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chrismca 2 years ago
Waldemar Cierpinski's my hero!!!
jethrosesc 4 years ago 3
wonderful, great !!
222mozart 4 years ago 2