First Class Men Needed to Defeat the Illuminati [Prabhupada]

[Vercingetorix1313]

I do like much of the prehistory he discusses here the tribe from 10000bc india who first wrote the vedas...the first writings talking about very futuristic technologies.

[Vercingetorix1313]

I am down with this guy!

[manictatter]

Thanks for this. That it's good stuff is a understatement. However this lecture apply to those who already accept the speaker and his actual position. It would not connect with ordinary folks like myself. Still I'm glad I came across it. The repository of vedic information is simply awesome and Srila Bhaktivendanta swami just kicks ass!

[Wilfreed1]

...(contin.)

...So...Yes, Vaikunthas are many...

But, let me ask you a question about just one of them.

The Lord of Vaikuntha is certainly Visnu, who has His Divine Transcendental Pallace there in the middle of His Kingdom. Isn't this True?

So...Visnu's beloved wife is Sri, The Goddes of Beauty, Prosperity and Good Fortune,who is the Mother of Visnu's Firstborn Son, Kama.

Isn't this true?

So... Where does Kama(the Son of Lord Hari and Goddess Sri) LIVE..?

Has He been expelled...?

[EyebreathH20]

He has good things to say but I doubt this in and of itself will "defeat" the Illuminati. The title of these videos are misleading. It would be like arguing, "giving yourself up to jesus is the only way to stop the Iluuminati." But like I said, I still agree with what Master P. is saying :)

[ShaolinSurfer777]

hare krishna and praise be to Lord Yeshua.

[kamalasana]

.... and how all others expands from the transcendental and non material body of Bhagavan lord sri Krsna, krsna can create thousands brahmas, and each creative impetu which is brahma, is heading as the first created being in each one universe, so there are thousands right in charge and all of those pay charge to the surpeme personality, thence, plenary expantions of krsna are vishnu´s form character which consists of thousands and infinitary parts exapantions in the vaikuntha-loka

[matrixoverkill]

Amazingly all of this makes sense to me.I understand what i must do.Thank you!

[bkdghtlzx]

dutchboy

which hindoe god was the first on earth.?

[mukunda108]

God is not hindu. GOD IS GOD THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD!

[kamalasana]

prabhupada is the jagad guru, the guru of the entire universal population he is God SUpreme to judge who is first anyone will have to agree and try to understand thence whos Sri Krsna and d sri Krsna Caitanya,

[m1key420]

There is not only 1 way to open you're mind to the illuminati control.

[mukunda108]

There is only one way to liberate ourselves from the control.

[michaelstmark]

To understand by following Lord Chaitanya's ( God's) order to chant Hare Krishna, that we are all one with God qualitatively ( obviously not quantitavely.)

There are "chaotic conditions" ( Prabhupada) throughout the world because everyone wants to become his own God, instead of realizing our true position of His servants, as per the definitive authorized ( by Krishna Himself) process.

[gnomeater]

this all makes since to me, but, to me, this has nothing to do with the illuminati

[mukunda108]

When we understand and realize the teachings of Prabhupada then WE WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ILLUMINATI ANYMORE!!! We will be free of their control. So it has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THEM.

[sanchos7meat7hat]

mukunda he doesnt refer directly to the illuminati. i have seen no proof of such an organization and until i see proof ul hopefully understand my skepticism and perhaps u are twisting a great mans words to suit your own cause? i appologise if what i say offends i am merely rasing a debate.

[mukunda108]

He does, check my web site do your research. Prabhupada said "the great sinister movement [Illuminati] is within our Society."

[edvin1976]

Your problem is what any other religion' is: you take your ancient teaching word by word. The old teachings about reincarnation and different lifes could have been about periods and life cycles in one life as well. You can live through many lifes during one life as you change. It doesnt mean you have to travel to fantasy land and believe you need to reborn for living different level of lives...

[mukunda108]

Yes we take the teachings of the Vedas AS THEY ARE! We don't speculate mentally. What is the use of mental speculation? We hear from the GURU who knows the Vedas and take it AS IT IS!

[mukunda108]

Yes we take the teachings of the Vedas AS THEY ARE! We don't speculate mentally. What is the use of mental speculation? We hear from the GURU who knows the Vedas and take it AS IT IS!

[edvin1976]

I tell you I am a GURU and I say there is no reason to believe that the VEDAS weren't talking about living through many lives during ONE life. During one life you can live as a worm, as well as human once you realized your mistakes. You have to preserve life of lesser beings, because you can see the future consequences of events and actions, when they can not, therefore you are responsible for them. And not because they contain your granny's soul.

[mukunda108]

You can tell me what you like, it doesn't mean it is a fact. I doubt you even know what are the qualifications of a bone-fide spiritual master. Do you?

[edvin1976]

Ok, you won, I never heard such a thing. Tell me what are the qualifications, you made me curious.

[mukunda108]

Therefore the Vedas says, tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet: "For understanding that transcendental science, one must approach a guru." And what is the symptom of guru? Samit-panih srotriyam brahma-nistham: Guru means one who has complete knowledge of Vedic version, and not only that, he is a staunch or fixed-up devotee of the Supreme Lord. These are the qualification. The guru strictly follows the Vedic injunction and teaches the same thing to his disciple.

[edvin1976]

So the GURU tells you to be good. The GURU knows from the Vedas that he should be good, and the Vedas are good, because its origin is God.

So what if I can explain to you why to be good, even if you dont believe in God. Does this not make me the best Guru, above all the Gurus who can only repet what God said, but they cant explain why did God say that?

[mukunda108]

Guru teaches how we can become pure and return home to Godhead. If you don't know God or hear from one who does then you don't know what is real good. You are just speculating on the mental plane.

[edvin1976]

The only thing which explains itself on the mental plane is existence, which is astral and physical plane too. What if the good I teach is the same what God says? I firmly believe that atheist and agnostic people must have the right to keep their views and still must have the right to be good. What do you think is more important God or God's cause? God loves everyone equally.

[mukunda108]

God loves everyone equally but those who abide by Gods will are dearer to him.

[edvin1976]

God has eternal and greatest love for everyone equally. There is no difference. Your reward for abiding God carried in the good deeds you do, beacuse they will allow you to feel God's love more perfectly. But whatever good you are, everybody else is the same dear to him nevertheless. To think otherwise would show that one's level of modesty needs something to desire for.

[mukunda108]

Here the words suhrt satam are very significant. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is always very inclined toward His devotee and is always thinking of the devotee's well-being. This is not partiality. As stated in Bhagavad-gita, the Lord is equal to everyone (samo 'ham sarva-bhutesu), but to one who particularly engages in His service, He is very much inclined.

[mukunda108]

In another place, the Lord says that a devotee always exists in His heart, and He also exists always in the heart of the devotee. The special inclination of the Supreme Personality of Godhead for His pure devotee is not unnatural, nor is it partiality. For example, sometimes a father has several children, but he has special affection for one child who is very much inclined toward him.

[mukunda108]

This is explained in Bhagavad-gita: Those who constantly engage in the devotional service of the Lord in love and affection are directly in contact with the Supreme Personality of Godhead sitting as the Supersoul in everyone's heart.

[mukunda108]

The Lord is not far away from the devotee. He is always in everyone's heart, but only the devotee can realize the Lord's presence, and thus he is directly connected, and he takes instruction from the Lord at every moment. Therefore, there is no chance of a devotee's being in error, nor is there any partiality on the part of the Lord for His pure devotees.

[anuttama]

God's material illusory energy helps the atheists be able to forget God according to their desire. However, it is impossible to do "good" in the material world: the complexities are too entangling. A person can live in the mode of goodness, but he will still inadvertantly hurt other living beings.

[mukunda108]

Good is to be fully Krishna conscious.

[mukunda108]

Or to be acting under the direction of Prabhupada who is fully Krishna conscious.

[edvin1976]

Anyone see here that that God gave the animals for food for anyone? No he gave the plants for eating for humans and for animals alike. There are meat eating animals they are abominations due evolution because of the animals are incapable of seeing the consequences of their actions. Dont be animals, dont eat meat!

[mukunda108]

Souls that are in animal bodies are not making any sin by eating others, they are burning off their bad karma from their sins in the human form of life. They will evolve gradually to the human form of life and then be responsible for their actions.

[punksush1]

I read the Bible and the Bhagavad, and in neither one did it suggest to treat other people inferior or their beliefs inferior. Prabhupada successfully spread the word of God without trash-talking or treating other religions inferior. Prabhupada is " a first-class man", we should all follow his example.

"Give the stupid men knowledge and they will bicker and fight about its possessiveness, where it came from, and where it's going, but they will never understand the knowledge."

[punksush1]

spiritual progress does demand at some stage that we should cease to kill our fellow creatures for the satisfaction of our bodily wants.

- Gandhi

To practice true ahrisma and to know Krishna and His compassion you must not harm others in any way, shape or form. That means no killing animals or consuming thier carcass. Your body is a temple, not a cemetary.

[miktruk]

I agree with what he is saying, but i dont think he's talking about the illuminati, just about the tendency of humanity to gorge itself in selfish/self destructive pleasure and that you as a individual have the power to make a choice of whether to do that or not, but as long as you have love without envy it doesn't really matter anyway.

[mukunda108]

Who runs the slaughterhouses?

[Schmoogee]

Dude, you got some stuff on your head.

[mukunda108]

Hear the message!

[JudaicKing]

Yah>>>

Good principles, but... *nevermind*

[JestRight]

We see truth like blind men feeling an elephant. One has the trunk, one a leg, one the tail.  Each sees a different aspect. While the Hindu class division by birth seems alien to us, it IS true that our natural leaders have betrayed us. Remeber the point Mel Gibson made in Braveheart -- the aristocracy exist only to serve and protect the people. If they cease to do that, they do not deserve their position. On that we in the West can agree with Prabhupada.

[mukunda108]

Nice comment.

[nejatarn]

So because I eat meat, or have some not so good habits, I'm less than first class? I just don't think reality is going to squeeze its big old self into the caste system bigoted sort of fantasy of this man or those who think like him. Reality is a bit to big for that kind of "force fitted notion".

[mukunda108]

Read the previous comments before you post: It has nothing to do with Hindu. You will naturally find the these 4 divisions all over the world. They are not organised that is all. In India they are organised by birth not quality and work. That division on the basis of birth is BOGUS! If you are born as a high court judges son that doesn't mean you are also a judge. You have to aquire the qualities of a judge and WORK as a judge. Then you are high court judge, not otherwise.

[Pimpfellow]

So that is what this man acknowledges? In that case good. But MY point is, there is not enough wrong with eating meat (if ANYTHING IS WRONG)or with any of my other less than optimal qualities to exclude me from being first class, but the way he talks, he would arrogantly say it, it seems to me.

[mukunda108]

According to Vedas first class man has these qualities:

Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance,

honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness--these are the

qualities by which the brahmanas work.

[Bhagavad-gita 18.42]

[candikane3]

there is so much evidence to support these statements medical science also says the body is polluted by toxins from the undigested meat, the human form is for a higher reality,obviously you consider yourself very advanced and unable to appreciate sincere instruction

[mukunda108]

Hare Krishna, good comment!

[uyoudecide]

THe nwo fear the internet the most its a information war their fighting this is our chance to Fight back

See my video pplease

[3swoosh2]

so what is being said is that men should rise to their level by their own achievements. not be put down because theyre born into a certain caste, that doesnt allow them opportunity. sounds good.

[WindowOpportunity]

I don't understand are you creating terror to elimiante it?

[mukunda108]

No i am trying to get people to hear from Prabhupada and become spiritually uplifted.

[grimaces]

hindu eugenics

[mukunda108]

It has nothing to do with Hindu. You will naturally find the these 4 divisions all over the world. They are not organised that is all. In India they are organised by birth not quality and work. That division on the basis of birth is BOGUS! If you are born as a high court judges son that doesn't mean you are also a judge. You have to aquire the qualities of a judge and WORK as a judge. Then you are high court judge, not otherwise.

[Politix]

who bombs and causes terror?

[livanletliv]

4 "classes of men" hmmm Sounds pretty ILLUMINATI to me. The brahman class in India, supposedly the "Ideal" guys are up to their eyeballs in secret societies

and have been in total control for 5000 years... DONT TRUST GURUS. THINK FOR YOURSELF AND PUT YOUR FAITH AND TRUST IN THE CREATOR, NOT A "MAN" NO MATTER HOW "IDEAL"

[mukunda108]

Someone who is up to their eyeballs in the Illuminati is not a brahmana. The 4 classes is not by BIRTH but by QUALITY and WORK.

You didn't know that of course.

So what are the qualities and work of these 4 classes which are alll over the world not just INdia.

[ownedncut]

What will you do when This Man Prabhupdada dies? huh?

[pandavski]

simple - he left many books, interviews etc. and those informations are for everybody like me and you

try it.

[tkwtkwtkw]

Stephen Voith [a.k.a. Santa Dada] charged two Krishna cult leaders (Ravindra Svarupa and Bhakti Caru) with murdering Srila Prabhupada and covering up thousands of incidences of child abuse.

Why is this not being discussed more openly among devotees, if for nothing else but to illuminate the truth?

[tkwtkwtkw]

Oops, sorry. Thought I was accessing a video of a Mosque.

[KUTTIYAPPAN]

krasnadasya-tnks for your reply, I dont take it, untill I am proved by vedic slokas with chapter references, second I must see it in the right context. illussions are often partially connected to realities, not the reality. I believe there was a time the world was one huge land mass, gradually it separated, and all human beings came in to existance from one source of life. But eventually thye took defferent colors and physical structures....

[mallikadasi]

You got your "believe there was. . . one huge land mass, gradually" from scientists who taught you in an institutionalized educational environment what "they"(re:ILLUMINATI) have decided to teach you and discarded Vedic information written down millions of years ago. Now use your eyes and nose and skin to decide what is what. Your eyes see a snake where there is a rope, you fool. So you need knowledge HANDED DOWN, not MADE UP, to know WHAT IS.

[mukunda108]

cont..

Nature is a machine. Just like this body. This body is machine, and the operator is the soul, and the guide is the Supersoul. As soon as the soul goes away, then the machine does not work. This is common sense. But they have no common sense; therefore they are rascals, so-called scientists and others. They have no common sense.

[mukunda108]

cont.

If any ordinary typewriter machine... This is a machine, but that requires operator. He is pushing this button; then it is working. It is not automatically working, any machine. So how this big machine is operating without any operator? What is this nonsense? They say, "There is no God. Nature, nature." What is the nature?

[mukunda108]

Hypothesis. Just like yesterday I was explaining that as soon as there is a machine, there is an operator. This is hypothesis. You cannot expect machine going on without operator. Similarly, this material nature is a machine and the operator is God. This is hypothesis. Even though you do not see God we can make this suggestion. That is human reasoning, logic.

[themaniusedtob]

i agree, anyone who takes advantage of mass ignorance for any reason sounds like a shitty person to me.

[themaniusedtob]

people will always continue to believe in crap that they themselves will never feel, see, hear, touch or even fully understand... thats the only reason heaven and hell is still an issue... its sad how they even use the word science as a method of making people think its a valid proven answer. in the end, its the blind leading the easily blinded, who give up learning how to lead and instead just become followers of delusion.

[danielof2k6]

Are you speaking of modern society, or Vedic philosophy? Because vedic philosophy fits none of those accusations and modern society fits them perfectly.

[KUTTIYAPPAN]

from where did you get this historical facts? first time I am hearing this.... is it just bullshit for the sake of talking or any evidence he has?? Delhi was the capital? :=?)

[krsnadasya]

These facts come from the Vedas, and the evidence is there. I'm not suprised that it is the first time you have heard this, most of us have been force fed the Western conception of history our whole lives.

[krsnadasya]

HOWEVER, the essence of this lecture is not to simply set the facts straight, but to teach us that the greatest leaders have to be first class men! Krishna Consciousness NATURALLY develops men and women into first class people!

[Verlch]

This is old world paganism dressed up in New Age Modern Paganism!!!

[krsnadasya]

Verich, your comment doesn't even make sense! Fanciful wordplay doesn't help your spiritual realization! Read Srila Prabhupada's books, and learn what Krishna Consciousness really is! Instead of using your emotions to post weird posts, use your great intelligence to learn the truth! Our intelligence is one of God's greatest gifts to us; it sets us apart from the animals!

[themaniusedtob]

great intelligence to come to spiritual realization? what if your the one that needs to realize your a puppet of a cult. a great intelligent person would know that truth is proof and proof is not faith.. spirituality is faith driven. and faith is believing when in doubt. proof is undeniable because its truth. so i dont see how intelligence fits into spirituality realization yet imagination or illusion can fit in real well.

[unemployedfreak]

The Desenex gives him a "tingling" feeling.

[princedime11]

i dont like this rasict fucking prick you fucking dead muthafucking hope you burning bitch

[jastat]

What he's saying is not racist

[randomparticle]

someone else's words....someone else's sacrifice?

I think 6gording6 this idea is convenient but it isn't wisdom

[6gording6]

Do you know where wisdom comes from?And if you dont then how do you know you possess it.

[6gording6]

The bible is all you need.That is the ultimate truth nothing else is needed.The diffrence betweem every religion and chrisitanity is the sacrifice which is JESUS CHRIST.

[Kalel1111]

Almost every religion has a story very similar to Jesus, right down to the sacrifice, as well as when he rose from the dead 3 days after being burried. Most of the stories pre-date Jesus by hundreds, sometimes thousands of years.

[6gording6]

realy give me some stories

[YOGAMAGIC]

If the Bible is all you need, why bother with school?? If it is really the only book, you should ask about the books that describe his missing years. The vatican has a lot under lock and key.

You should also know of the Bhavisya Maha-Purana, do a search on it and learn of Christ's travels to India during those years.

[6gording6]

oh please you know nothing.if they were gods wrod then why does it never say thus says the lord like every book of the bible does.What he talking aboutm reincarntion som ething god doesnt say.he is saying they are trying to kill him becuase hem is the messiah please.school just lets me in on how you guys think and why you believe what you do.

[mallikadasi]

He is saying in this time you live in, you will be cheated about why you are here.

Tolstoy wrote about the nothing, and the Vedic books predictions wrote about it too. Just listen with an open mind. He is quoting ancient scriptures handed down, not made up.

"By your behavior"- so become 1st class in your behavior. And start with the way you express yourself.

[themaniusedtob]

its a form of generalization its a use of words to make you think it knows something about the world and you as a whole.. exp i could say the years before your last will be painful but love me and i shall ease your pain.. youd read it in context with a bunch of other things and boom they grab you on a religious to fulfill there agenda.

[michaelstmark]

YogaM. Learn about Krishna and you will learn about Real Truth. That's all.

[randomparticle]

so your told to open your mind to reincarnation, how does this open your mind to yourself, guided by someone else...where else will it lead but to what they told you to believe?

[jeminijem1]

Yeah, that makes sense. Drink the poison Koolaid.

[MikkaSingh]

Guys, please try and understand this: The Vedas and other texts are very old and just like the Bible, have been revised, aswell as corrupted, by people with an agenda. Some have survived through to this day and age. Alot of it is dogma, but there is ample truth too. Because the truth attracts the masses and the dogma then binds them.

[alien8ted]

The value of chastity in your religion? A brief summary from memory, is that indulging in sensual pleasures (like sex) binds one to maya (illusion) and the wheel of karma, which creates suffering and causes subsequent rebirth. Chastity enables one to transcend maya and achieve nirvana. Your tuen; how many of your holy books are written by women?

[mukunda108]

You are talking about personal benefit. I asked about the benefit to human society.

Chapter 8 of the 1st canto of Srimad Bhagavatam is spoken by Queen Kunti a most exalted devotee of the Lord. Wonderful instructive prayers of pure devotion and love which are glorified and worshiped by all great saints and sages throughout the universe.

[alien8ted]

Only first class men? Aren't there any first class women in this cult, or are they made to behave as domestic slaves as in most other male-dominated religions? My karma just ran over your dogma!

[mukunda108]

A women becomes first class by been submissive to her first class husband. Others are dancing slaves in the hands of the illuminati.

[alien8ted]

'Submissive' like a slave? I thought as much. So women are regarded as second class citizens to be ordered about by their male owners? As a man, I regard women as being my equals and denounce any system that denigrates them. Any women reading this, have some self-respect and reject all these patriarchal cults.

[mukunda108]

No! A women in Vedic culture is HONOURED for her Chastity.

Do you understand the value of chaste women in human society?

You are seeing through your illuminati feminist mind controlled eyes, your have no good brain to understand vedic culture.

One cannot deny that men and women are different physically and psychologically and therefore have different roles to play. Spiritually they are equal.

[alien8ted]

Spiritually equal but in practice subordinate to males, so women are not allowed to gain authority in this religion. Don't even try that bogus 'you don't understand' bullshit, the classic cult cop-out to dismiss criticism. It's funny how you have adopted David Icke's ridiculous paranoid fantasy about the illuminati myth.

[mukunda108]

Ok if you understand, answer my questions:

Do you understand the value of chaste women in human society?

In practice women are equal but there role is different. There are many pure devotees who have women bodies who are spiritual authorities, so again your talking nonsense.

[budatress]

I always have. Thank you for the support or encouragement, how every you intended it.

[AlexDCl]

'God' or 'Krishna'=oneness. And vice versa.

[Terpinol]

The result of smoking weed and meditating.

[ilikebeubz]

my man is guaranteed stoned

[Dharmasetu]

'guaranteed'?

wrong, Prabhupada and Hare Krishna devotees dont smoke weed,or take any intoxication whatsoever including tea and coffee.

Are you stoned? quite possible

[ilikebeubz]

sorry then no offence yeh.

[Tones84]

GOD decides, but if no one hears GOD, those claiming to hear GOD will impose their own dictatorship. kings used that bullshit excuse of divine right to rule. I aint buying it.

[mukunda108]

Krishna [God] decides! This is what he says about a first class man:

Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness--these are the qualities by which the brahmanas work.

[Bhagavad-gita 18.42]

So any man who has these qualities is a first class man. Simply aint it.

[Tones84]

who the fuck decides who the ideal man is? TADA... the Creation of the new illuminaty, substitution version.

[mukunda108]

God decides!!!

[davegarret]

"and here are the dogmas, NO ILLICIT SEX, NO MEAT EATING, NO INTOXICATION, NO GAMBLING"

whats dogmatic about saying humans should not be drunkards, sexmongers, gamblers, and flesheaters? Its about being a civilised human being. I think you have a problem with it because you enjoy and are addicted to these sense pleasures. Thats the whole problem...youve been doing this for millions of births, time to give it up, practice some austerity and achieve the supreme goal.

[JayIsrael1]

The original meaning of the ancient sanscrit term Aryan (Arya), just means 'spiritually advanced'. It has nothing to do with race, cast, or creed. Hitler perverted and twisted it all. Your being very unfair to claim that Prabhupada who is a pure devotee of Krishna to be dogmatic, which he wasnt at all.

[davegarret]

And I suppose you know it all and have all the answers free from all misanthropic dogma and conditioning..yea of course.

[WNanette]

He didn't tell about when there are earthquakes, it's because the earth is resting on the backs of two gigantic turtles (or is it elephants? I forget), and they are shaking.

That is what really is happening when we feel an earthquake.

No, wait! There's more!

[davegarret]

lol thats a really pathetic attempt to ridicule Vedic religion as in the Vedas (written 5000 years ago) it is explained that the earth is a floating sphere along with all the other planets. Its only a few hundred years that modern science discovered the world was not flat. Nice try buddy

[alien8ted]

Actually it's 2,200 years since Eratosthenes (a scientist) proved the earth was a sphere. To try and claim religion has always known the answers scientists are now discovering is patently false, as evidenced by religious people continually getting science wrong and deluding themselves that faith is really a form of knowledge, rather than wishful thinking.

[Dharmasetu]

but the Vedas predate Eratosthenes, and new the earth was a sphere

[conceptmachine]

egyptians knew the earth is round and a bit oval and not as tall as is fat.

[johndebaptist]

concerning religion he needs to go back about another 455,000 years to lemuria so i dont believe wot he tells us because i know relgion was born around 500,000 yrs ago and not of this planet

[ramayomama]

Post my other comment!

[ramayomama]

Nice try, though.

[ramayomama]

Why don't you put my post up?