Most people who make these hateful and judging comments are WEEABOO's, people who dream and wank heavily over Japan but will never ever go there. You know, the types who watch anime and go to anime conventions, cosplay and say kawaii alot even though they're in their homeland, theres fucking tons of videos of them on this site.
As for your gripes about being commented on, just fuck em and do what you like.
Although I do concur, when it comes to the concept of "Why can't we all just be happy to have *so* many similarities?"...Shouldn't *anyone* have the desire to improve where they are lacking? i.e.If you are pronouncing something incorrectly, why would you act Napoleonic yourself...by refusing to take constructive criticism? Is it not the more respectful or, even the more, naturally studious decision? For the record, I feel I should make it clear that I am genuinely interested...not just trolling.
What you're saying doesn't really make much sense to me.
True, there are people in Japan who disregard Japanese customs and culture, both voluntarily and involuntarily. However, on many occasions I've seen Japanese people do and say things that I think are disrespectful to foreigners.Nonetheless, there are people, both Japanese and foreign, who respect each other's culture.So, YOU stay away from foreigners because of YOUR own negative generalization of a category you fall into?
As a foreigner you will be subjected to many stereotypes, one of these is the "stupid gaijin". You hate how all Japanese assume you can't do ANYTHING and you assume it's because of the other gaijin's lack of assimilation into society that these stereotypes exist, hence you hate "stupid gaijin" for blocking "smart gaijin's" assimilation and all around cultural experience... and to a degree this is true. I can understand both viewpoints.
one problem i have with foreigners is just the complete ignorant and disrespect for the japanese culture - when ever i visit a country i remember i am an outside and try to respect the countries culture...i love japanese people and i still hang out with foreigners BUT there are a few foreigners ive met that are just rude...i consider them rude in my own country - especially when they are making a scene - if we're in this together then people have to remember they might have to change a bit first
Well 10 years in Japan & keep away from all other 外国人 I have seen to many make complete dicks of themselves & it has made others 外国人 close to them look like dicks also. I have seen 外国人 on trains sitting in the priority seats & not move to let the people that the seats are for sit down, watch in shops as外国人 abuse staff because the外国人 does not understand Japanese.
I now refuse to deal or speak with other 外国人, I am a permanent resident in Japan & I do not want to be associated with バカ外国人.
I like this topic.... I wish I could "relate" to the Japanese experience BUT as far as being a foreigner in europe, the same thing happens but probably far less. It's just envy. That's all it is.
I totally agree with this gal. I know so many of the fellow gaijin who think the world begins and ends with the hairs on their ass. We really should stick together.
I totally agree with this! Friends are friends. I think being in Japan can make people begin to categorize different type of people into group when it seems okay, but it's really not. Like you said you never know when you might need someones help.
i don't hate on other forigners, but there IS one thing i get tired of. Some believe that beiong a forigner in Japan is like being in a motorcycle gang. you don't have to say hello to every single forigner you meet, just cus you are in the same "club". I don't say hi or nod to other forigners most of the time, just as i don't say hi or nod to everyone else. i sertainly don't have anything against them, i just think it's wierd. forigners and japanese are the same to me, so i treat them the same.
@animeangela227 Yes, even though he was of average-to-tall height for the time period and was taller than Admiral Nelson, who was head of the British navy. The belief stems from a cartoon (no, seriously)
Napoleon complex is an informal term describing an alleged type of inferiority complex which is said to affect some people, especially men, who are short in stature
I agree with this 100%! I think some of it has to do with jealousy - people not in Japan that feel that they are more "worthy" on living in Japan since they speak Japanese better or know more about the culture and so they dump on J-vloggers who don't live up to their imagined level. On my main channel - Myargonauts - I stopped speaking Japanese on camera - just too many hate comments (95% from other gaijin) about how bad I speak, etc.
@JasonsinJapan I'm a fan of your videos and I know exactly what you mean, I saw it all too! It's sad because you're a nice guy and everyone just seemed to avoid that because your Japanese wasn't 'sugoi' enough, lol
l was an exchange student in Kyoto last year, and l remember my senior that went before me gave the tip to avoid communicating with other foreigners in Japan to blend in. But l actually liked hanging out with the other foreigners there. People seem to forget we're all from different countries with (even slightly) different cultures. l thought it was pretty cool to become friends with people from other countries. Also meeting other Dutch is rare, so when l did l found it a funny coincidence.
I wish Japanese people knew that foreigners are not that big deal, really. They´re still a very closed society so anyone from outside will cause them an absurd interest, of course. Someday they will realize it.
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I wish Japanese people knew that foreigners are not that big deal, really. They´re still a very closed society so anyone from outside will cause an absurd interest in them, of course. Someday they will realize it.
@claudiakai Mostly educated people go to Japan or people that are not VIOLENCE PRONE. So japan probably gets a fairly "decent" slice of a Foreign Pie.
The only problem I had with the foreigners in Tokyo was that after living thee a few months they became incredibly egotistical. As much as I would've liked to feel like part of a foreign community, I couldn't bring myself to be around people who acted like celebrities all the time. Luckily I met a few who were more down to earth though, but it's difficult, or at least it was for me.
I think that one of the big problems is the individualism that exists in most Western societies. Many people have been taught to bolster their self-esteem by trying to put others below themselves. "I am the best! You suck! Me! Me! Me!"
All this time I've been saying superiority complex, napoleon sounds much better. Yep about the celebrity thing, except in China with us foreigners its the opposite, people starting out hating you, and then you get liked by everyone, so the celebrity feeling doesnt really happen to many us foreigners in China....gotta admit it though, I liked the celebrity status in Japan
My friend who lived there for a while told me stories of this happening. She's so chill she's untouchable by any sort of high-and-mightiness, but she would tell me about others that did judge. It was a bit weird until I considered that when I came to America, I got a lot of the "novelty" thing, too. When other foreigners come along it's a bit like they're stealing your thunder, I suppose. In America, however, foreigners have a strong community, however, so this feeling goes away shortly.
I get what she's saying, but I still don't give people (外人) a free pass if they are a douche. Douche's are douche's anywhere in the world, and that's why there are people with this "Napolean complex" in Japan.
ITS TRUE!! PEOPLE TREAT JAPAN LIKE A BAND!! So, if you only liked them in the last 2 years, youre a poser. Youre only legit if you know all the lyrics (know japanese) and you can spew pointless trivia about them, making you worthy of appreciating.
Ignorant tourists, quiet observers, Japanophiles, Otaku and Faux-taku are all fine, just dont be a superior or obnoxious douchebag.
I can't help but say hello to fellow gaijin when we're cramped into each others personal space or passing by on a empty path, it just feels right to me. 1/2 the time I'm given a strange look or the response is in the tone of oh hi wtf are you talking to me, I'm blending in here, did u not notice my assimilation lol...I once had a guy twitter how some ozzy had said hello to him on the yamanote in a negative way. I saw the text & was tempted to punch him, but I didn't coz I'm heaps cooler lol ; P
Hey, I went to Japan for only 2 weeks but I also had the experience like I was a celebrity. I even had to sit and be asked questions by Japanese students sort of like a press conference almost.
Its easier to lose your head in it all, but I managed to stay grounded. I definitely agree that foreginers in Japan should be nicer too each other, since when a problem arise another foreigner would be to relate to it better than a Japanese person would, if its was that kind of problem
i experienced the whole i feel like a celebrity thing when i was first in japan. i may experience it again when i move there, but i hope to the gaysha gods that i never let it get to me. i most definitely won't be attacking other foreigners cuz that's not my style, but i hope someone slap's me up side my gaysha wig if i do!!!
Guess I could say though, that the only foreigners I ever really got annoyed with were the ones that thought Japan should be like anime. There's just something about them that irks me. They just start the ball rolling on hate when they arrive to Japan and start to criticize how it "isn't like it is in the animes."
I could just continue on "living" and worry about my own life, and my own problems. And if I had some foreigner friends, so be it. I will admit though. I wanted to have more Japanese friends than foreign friends, solely for the purpose of, not assimilating into Japanese culture, but to be better able to /learn/ Japanese. I went to Japan because I love the language, and to be able to become more fluent. Hanging out with other foreigners 24/7 wasn't going to advance my goal, but impede it.
I think I can agree with this statement completely... And I know that I also went through a phase where I got really touchy whenever I saw another foreigner in Japan (Not at my college, but around Osaka or Kyoto). Kinda felt like... dude, what're you doing? But I'd say this feeling only lasted a few months until I just became adjusted to ignoring everything around me like I could do back in the states due to the familiarity of everything. I didn't feel I had to soak in a new experience every day
Wikipedia says: The gov. of Japan is a constitutional monarchy where the power of the Emperor is very limited. A ceremonial figurehead, he is defined by the 1947 constitution as "the symbol of the state and of the unity of the people". Power is held chiefly by the Prime Minister of Japan & other elected members of the Diet, while sovereignty is vested in the Japanese people.
sounds like the nasty foreigners are just taking the high school geek clique snobbery thing up a notch. The old "we're so unique because we're intelligent" thing combined with "Get off my cloud" syndrome mixed with the mythologizing of Japan itself (the mythologizing of the "uniqueness" and "difficulty" and "ancientness" of the culture... tea ceremony, rituals, etc.) and the self-mythologizing of the foreigner. White foreigners in Korea didn't seem to do that. From what I've seen anyway.
The word weeaboo's funny because only white people call others that. What makes them think they know all things japanese? The people who call others that are worst than weaboo's,There the ones going of racists stereotypes and assume everyone who likes anime is into the country of japan.
The problem with a lot of gaijins is that they really want to fit in. Which is normal. But in order to do that, they often feel that they have to cut the ties with every other foreigner.
One gaijin among other gaijin just looks like any other lame gaijin. But a gaijin among japanese people just looks really cool and all.
At least that's what they think. I suppose.
I say that, but if i was there, i would also try to "japanese up" as much as i can.
As the dumping friend thing goes, I think it is an entirely understandable thing for a foreigner in Japan - I'm not saying whether its right or wrong. But, if the individual desires to increase their Japanese ability, one of the soul forms to do so is by immersion. If the person has friends who do not push themselves hard to learn Japanese or make any effort to speak Japanese on a day to day basis. Then to say, "Let's hang out less." is understandable. Some peoples time in Japan is limited
People love drama, and the easiest (and laziest) way to make yourself feel good and/or look better by comparison is to insult the other person. Pretty much the universal standard that's concentrated to a high degree on the internet.
Great points in this video. Every time I watch your videos, I feel like you're channeling my own brains.
My experiences with this kind of "competition" have usually been very subtle. It's often at a mainly-foreign party, and there's one person in the room that asks the people around: "So, how long have you been in Japan?" Suddenly, everyone is answering and a "pecking" order is established. I can't stand the "Japanesier than thou" types, but the majority of the foreigners I know are cool.
I wholeheartedly agree this is a pathetic problem. Japanese in Japan are more than helpful to one another and pour much effort to keep communication lines open in my opinion. As for foreigners, I believe when many come it's usually because they work for an Eikaiwa. After staying awhile making friends that are japanese they tend to realize many of their English counterparts don't put much effort to assimilate. I think that creates divide into who's truly here for long or short.
If I had to hear people like some of the douche bags in the comment section while I was in japan, I would avoid them too. I am a nice guy, I dont judge others harshly, but if a person is rude, uncaring, or throwing the weeboo word around to anybody at all, I wouldnt want to associate them
I have heard enough bad tails and see enough garbage from americans in japan and commenters here who supposedly enjoy it who are ready to judge for not enjoying it how they think it should be enjoyed
I have only been here for about 4 months but when I see another gaijin here I do not know what to do. Do I smile and say hi to my fellow gaijin, or just walk by? Because of course in America (I am American), you do not walk up to someone and start talking to them because you are both non-Japanese. So I tend to just run away ^^; Most gaijin I see here are male adults though (and I am a girl high schooler) so it's weird in that way too.
(btw I know my username is misleading, but I am not a weeboo)
Yeah, with the amount of foreigners in Tokyo you pretty much have to just walk by. I've never seen this 'gaijin nod' in any other countries I've been to either, so I think it's best to just go on as normal :L
I totally agree with your theory as to why. When I lived in tokyo, I need feel that foreigners tended to treat each other with suspicion rather than friendliness, but now I'm in the countryside of hyogo, I feel foreigners sticking together alot more and there is a community, at least where I live.
The weaboos are quite annoying and they kind of creep me out. But average people who just happen to live in Japan or want to teach is absolutely fine with me. I just don't like creepy men who wear school girl uniforms and wigs at home.
I've been studying in Japan for about 3 months now and this is something I think about a lot. It's hard to make sweeping statements, because everyone's motivation for being in Japan is different.
I'm a Japanese major at my university in England and the main reason I'm here is to improve my Japanese. Obviously if I only mix with foreigners, that's not going to happen. So there are definitely times when I don't want to hang out with other foreigners. But it has nothing to do with me "hating" them.
@CAesuoMykcM I am completely aware of this. While I really don't give two flying shits, I will give you the Pedantic Award for the day. But it's okay, I'm guilty of being way over concerned about things that don't matter, too.
@CAesuoMykcM Oh, whoops. Sorry, my comment to you came as really harsh. Please replace my rude language with, "I really don't care," and "I'm usually the one who gets the Pedantic Asshole Award, so don't feel bad about that. We are very similar on that level."
wow i never thought of it that way, why the foreigner vs foreigner thing exists, i always thought if a jerk, no matter what nationality, iun like em.. but i didn't mind if foreign friends (when i was there) didn't speak it... but i did get pissed off it was the 11th time i had to order pizza for someone over the phone. AT LEAST GIMME SOME OF THE PIZZA DAMMIT!!
I'm curious, what part of Japan are you talking about? If it was somewhere like Tokyo, it'd be pretty impossible to feel awkward because there are so many lol
I am new commer to Japan, but i dont feel like a celebrity. I dont get anyone looking at me lol. People keep telling me how people will stair, noone has drastically staired anymore than they do in my home country. If i walk by someone ofcourse they look at me, I think everyone looks at another person and notices them. But none turns back, or stairs or anything. lol I guess i am one of those celebritys noone care about lol.
white people have to be the only people in the world that hate each other in foreign countries. I swear, every other culture of people do not do this B[a
Totally agree here. I live in a fair sized city and we have 9 foreigners working in my office as well as another four or five who are in our circle of 'familiars'. I can tell you now when a 'new' foreign comes to town, even a tourist, I am very protective of my city. I don't hate them, but I think it is a device used to defend myself from feeling threatened. Great topic!
And now I'm starting to think maybe he wasn't so happy that me, a non-Japanese, is going through the same process of learning Japanese as he did, and he wants to feel like he's the only one. Why are people so r.e.t.a.r.d.s.?
Damn I'm learning Japanese for 7 months now, and I'm so far away literally light years away from all this bullshit...thinking about all these sore foreigners walking around in Japan trying to be "The thing" there...
At my local Japanese Cultural Center in my city (where I take JP classes), I met a man who's been to Japan and who talks Japanese and all, he seemed very kind with the Japanese, so I thought he's a kind guy. I went to discuss with him about our common passion, but he was very cold
Why are people such Nazis about Japanese pronunciation. Accents are beautiful! I always suggest to the many foreigners I deal with all the time in my resort community I live and work in to retain their accent. Why try and sound like a native? Your special, your from another country, rejoice. I want Japanese people to understand me, I don't want to
A. tell them how to speak their language
or
B. try and fool them into thinking I was born in Japan
I think some people went to Japan to escape the others in their countries. So when they see them, they're not too happy about it.
That and like she said, people are selfish and they like to keep the goodies for themselves..
I think there's also the issue of looking threatening by grouping with other non-Japanese people. Let me be clear on that, what I mean is that they might be thinking that associating with other gaijin they might look threatening to the homogeneous Japanese..
its so true, this exactly mirrors my experience in Japan. I only went for a month, and was only attending school for one week of that month, but the "celebrity status" that milkjamjuice described is so real. It might be weird to imagine if you haven't experienced it, but you feel like a whole different person. It's really easy to let it go to your head, and it's often really hard to catch yourself, but I always tried to bring myself back to earth and stay humble lol
I love your territorial analogy...it's the primitive nature of mankind. Hard to break that cycle.
What I really hate in Japan is the stupid racial/national/ethnic hierarchy that gets brought over here and reinforced at every turn instead of starting with a clean slate in a country that could use a lot of positive knowledge about the world.
Although it might be nice to imagine that gaijin stick together and are a community, I'd have to say the following. What if you were in your own country, say America or Australia, and there were Indians or Vietnamese people as a minority who have immigrated or are working in these Western countries. Would you expect them to all merrily get along? I intensely dislike the stereotypes that my country gets, but it doesn't mean that I want to get along with all my fellow Australians. :/
white/Caucasian foreigners. i notice my chinese and indonesian friends living in tokyo don't get any attention at all cos they aren't "cool" foreigners to know, lol
haha definitely experienced the gaijin hate from other foreigners while I lived in Osaka, but I also hated going to shinsaibashi b/c of all the foreigners so it kind of swung both ways I guess
From urbandictionary: "Weaboo: A negative term directed to anyone overly obsessed with Japanese culture to the point where they become annoying."
It's a form of "wanna be japanese." It's not only found linked to japanese culture but also foreigners, or children of foreigners; who try SO hard to be accepted in that culture that they sometimes take pretty extreme stances on topics, mostly to appease to the hivemind they think represents the core of that country's culture.
Well the urban dictionary is a fun site but not sure they have a real grasp of what the general understanding of certain slang words are. I remember looking words up that and finding tongue-in-cheek answers. My understanding of weaboo is someone who is really into the anime/manga/cute culture. I'd even argue most "weaboos" don't live in Japan.
@Gimmeaflakeman Agsiar spelled it out pretty well. Some people are just WAY too into Japan for the wrong reasons. Those are the people I would call weaboos. Also, I'd agree that most weaboos don't live in Japan, but I'm sure some do. Those are the unfortunate bad eggs that bad mouth other Gaijin
Yeah, I would define a Weeaboo as someone with more of an obsession with Japan than anything, even Anime. It may sound rare, but I know people who are actually obsessed with Japan itself to the point of insanity. It'd make even the most hardened person cringe.
@Gimmeaflakeman I used to be into the Anime Crap, but I wouldn't call myself a weeaboo, But I call my friend Zack a weeaboo because he has a Freakin' Japanese Flag in his Room.
But I'm just teasing him, I think a real weeaboo is a snob about Japanese culture.
@benitofinito You can like it better than American Culture till' the Cows come Home, it's just rude to be a snob about it.
I did the same thing with records, you just look like a douche bag if you say "your itunes mp3s are shit, they're nowhere near the quality of the Master, that's why I buy Records!"
It's much nicer to say "well, personally, I actually buy Records instead of MP3s because Records actually sound better because it's closer to the actual recording believe it or not :)":
Indeed, but it does serve to give at least some sense on the slang that can be confusing when first encounterd (it sure has helped me!). Anyway, yes, the term "weaboo" is most often used to denote that group, probably because it is the most vocal/noisy, but it doesn't stop there. It could also be used when reffering about someone who not only insists that X, Y and/or Z is better in Japan, but that anyone stating otherwise is stupid and wrong (I'm not exaggerating).
From what I've seen, in casual internet conversation people tend to switch from weaboo to otaku and back with ease, thus blurring when one ends and the other starts. For better or worse I am into manga/anime but the sort of people who aren't shouting "JAPAN #1, EVERTHING ELSE IS FAIL" are normally not classified as "weaboo." But yes, pretty sure that most weaboos are foreigners.
Anyway, you must take this with a grain of salt, since this is as I understand things. Hope it helps. Cheers.
While I would agree that *ubrandictionary* is a fun site, I wouldn't discount it totally, like wikipedia, its a collection of different opinions and views, which may or may not add to its validity, if you go to the root of the website and paste in *define . php?term=Weaboo* you can see there are many people saying the same things.
Don't get me wrong, I don't really care about this subject, but I do care about the validity of a source of information. rule = grain of salt
@Gimmeaflakeman Okay, I'm asking this honestly. What does the word weeaboo means? I've heard it, read it here and there on some blogs and I yet don't know what's the meaning of that word. I could just look it up, but i don't think that would be the actual meaning.
@pandamanana I don't like weaboos. I went to Japan to hang out with a friend in Ueno, but I was staying in a hostel. The hostel was basically a breeding ground for weaboos. Their voices, their faces and their words were just annoying as fuck. They occupied the second floor and it smelled like ass with spicy curry.
One night I went to the second floor and knocked on one of the room doors, I was just curious so I made up a story to go with this action, as soon as the door swung open, THE SMELL!!!!
Its a conversion behaviour. Foreigners come to Japan wanting to fit in and notice qualities that the Japanese dislike about stereotypical gaijin(loud, disrespectful, etc) and so they work against showing these traits. I wouldn't call Japan racist, but it's certainly another thing people ironically do to try to fit in. They're afraid people will act in X way and vicariously embarass them (all gaijin) You get exactly the same thing within gay circles, alot of'straight-acting' gays hate camp people
I get a lot of jokes at work because of my love for Japan with folks saying I'm going to marry a Japanese girl or I wish I was Japanese which is far removed from the truth. While I do love J girls, I'm not keen on marrying anybody much less a specific nationality. I also don't wish I was Japanese because its not an easy culture to grow up in with all of the different social elements one has to balance. I do wish I could live in Japan whenever I wanted but that's a different topic.
Main criticism I see on Youtube from one gaijin to another is when one of them expects the Japanese folks to change according to what they think is right. Its understandable that people from different cultures bring their own quirks to Japan to expecting the Japanese to just accept their way of doing things is just foolish. Japanese have a certain way they do things and EVERYBODY is expected to do it that way including gaijin although there is some forgiveness for our lack of knowledge.
Your a good person MilkJamJuice.
MrTashigawa 1 week ago
Most people who make these hateful and judging comments are WEEABOO's, people who dream and wank heavily over Japan but will never ever go there. You know, the types who watch anime and go to anime conventions, cosplay and say kawaii alot even though they're in their homeland, theres fucking tons of videos of them on this site.
As for your gripes about being commented on, just fuck em and do what you like.
hungoversundays 2 weeks ago
Although I do concur, when it comes to the concept of "Why can't we all just be happy to have *so* many similarities?"...Shouldn't *anyone* have the desire to improve where they are lacking? i.e.If you are pronouncing something incorrectly, why would you act Napoleonic yourself...by refusing to take constructive criticism? Is it not the more respectful or, even the more, naturally studious decision? For the record, I feel I should make it clear that I am genuinely interested...not just trolling.
DestroyaDoll 2 weeks ago
4:45 girl is hot, youre not :D lol thats why she is a celebraty
sourmanofcoal 2 weeks ago
@sourmanofcoal
Ah, celebratty... yes, I get it. Being a "celebrity youtuber" = oxymoron
Gimmeaflakeman 2 weeks ago
Gimmeaflakeman = Cramer
sourmanofcoal 2 weeks ago
@sourmanofcoal
That's KRAMER!
Gimmeaflakeman 2 weeks ago
@Gimmeaflakeman Your manner of twitches make seem like kramer. You spazz out all the time.
sourmanofcoal 2 weeks ago
@TatsushigeJapan
What you're saying doesn't really make much sense to me.
True, there are people in Japan who disregard Japanese customs and culture, both voluntarily and involuntarily. However, on many occasions I've seen Japanese people do and say things that I think are disrespectful to foreigners.Nonetheless, there are people, both Japanese and foreign, who respect each other's culture.So, YOU stay away from foreigners because of YOUR own negative generalization of a category you fall into?
warewareno 3 weeks ago
I licked the video :)
LooshkinTV 3 weeks ago
As a foreigner you will be subjected to many stereotypes, one of these is the "stupid gaijin". You hate how all Japanese assume you can't do ANYTHING and you assume it's because of the other gaijin's lack of assimilation into society that these stereotypes exist, hence you hate "stupid gaijin" for blocking "smart gaijin's" assimilation and all around cultural experience... and to a degree this is true. I can understand both viewpoints.
TheAdamie 1 month ago
one problem i have with foreigners is just the complete ignorant and disrespect for the japanese culture - when ever i visit a country i remember i am an outside and try to respect the countries culture...i love japanese people and i still hang out with foreigners BUT there are a few foreigners ive met that are just rude...i consider them rude in my own country - especially when they are making a scene - if we're in this together then people have to remember they might have to change a bit first
JeremyScottThompson 1 month ago
Well 10 years in Japan & keep away from all other 外国人 I have seen to many make complete dicks of themselves & it has made others 外国人 close to them look like dicks also. I have seen 外国人 on trains sitting in the priority seats & not move to let the people that the seats are for sit down, watch in shops as外国人 abuse staff because the外国人 does not understand Japanese.
I now refuse to deal or speak with other 外国人, I am a permanent resident in Japan & I do not want to be associated with バカ外国人.
TatsushigeJapan 1 month ago
I like this topic.... I wish I could "relate" to the Japanese experience BUT as far as being a foreigner in europe, the same thing happens but probably far less. It's just envy. That's all it is.
Blacktsalagi73 1 month ago
i saw a avid box behind her
Thatkidwhosnips 2 months ago
We are all human and there is no excuse for poor behavior foreigner or not.
hanakofuyumi 2 months ago
I totally agree with this gal. I know so many of the fellow gaijin who think the world begins and ends with the hairs on their ass. We really should stick together.
freedomwv 2 months ago
I totally agree with this! Friends are friends. I think being in Japan can make people begin to categorize different type of people into group when it seems okay, but it's really not. Like you said you never know when you might need someones help.
jishingaaru 2 months ago
Oh awesome topic on the video. Nicely done, but you could normalize the audio a little bit, you know?
gfurst 2 months ago
i don't hate on other forigners, but there IS one thing i get tired of. Some believe that beiong a forigner in Japan is like being in a motorcycle gang. you don't have to say hello to every single forigner you meet, just cus you are in the same "club". I don't say hi or nod to other forigners most of the time, just as i don't say hi or nod to everyone else. i sertainly don't have anything against them, i just think it's wierd. forigners and japanese are the same to me, so i treat them the same.
TheJohnOfJacks 2 months ago
I shall assimulate into Japan.
ObedWanKenobi 3 months ago
Napoleon complex? doesnt that have something to do with being short (height) and brutish?
You know like the real Napoleon? emperor of France? :P
I <3 history....
The video was great by the way!
animeangela227 3 months ago
@animeangela227 Yes, even though he was of average-to-tall height for the time period and was taller than Admiral Nelson, who was head of the British navy. The belief stems from a cartoon (no, seriously)
KittyKattyYukiLvr 3 months ago
Napoleon complex is an informal term describing an alleged type of inferiority complex which is said to affect some people, especially men, who are short in stature
Megametalwolf 3 months ago
@Megametalwolf like meXD
TheJohnOfJacks 2 months ago
I agree with this 100%! I think some of it has to do with jealousy - people not in Japan that feel that they are more "worthy" on living in Japan since they speak Japanese better or know more about the culture and so they dump on J-vloggers who don't live up to their imagined level. On my main channel - Myargonauts - I stopped speaking Japanese on camera - just too many hate comments (95% from other gaijin) about how bad I speak, etc.
JasonsinJapan 3 months ago
@JasonsinJapan I'm a fan of your videos and I know exactly what you mean, I saw it all too! It's sad because you're a nice guy and everyone just seemed to avoid that because your Japanese wasn't 'sugoi' enough, lol
TJPguy 1 month ago
l was an exchange student in Kyoto last year, and l remember my senior that went before me gave the tip to avoid communicating with other foreigners in Japan to blend in. But l actually liked hanging out with the other foreigners there. People seem to forget we're all from different countries with (even slightly) different cultures. l thought it was pretty cool to become friends with people from other countries. Also meeting other Dutch is rare, so when l did l found it a funny coincidence.
LenaleeLee 3 months ago
I will support this video by "Licking it"
Nooklet 3 months ago
an encounter with another gaijin means that the euphoria of being a cultural pioneer will be over!
slowmotiontrainwreck 3 months ago
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I wish Japanese people knew that foreigners are not that big deal, really. They´re still a very closed society so anyone from outside will cause them an absurd interest, of course. Someday they will realize it.
claudiakai 3 months ago
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I wish Japanese people knew that foreigners are not that big deal, really. They´re still a very closed society so anyone from outside will cause an absurd interest in them, of course. Someday they will realize it.
claudiakai 3 months ago
@claudiakai
No need to generalize. A lot of Japanese don't think anything of it. Or not much. Just a few. What we need to deal with is the way foreigners become.
Gimmeaflakeman 3 months ago 7
@claudiakai Mostly educated people go to Japan or people that are not VIOLENCE PRONE. So japan probably gets a fairly "decent" slice of a Foreign Pie.
sourmanofcoal 2 weeks ago
I wish I could find a way to go to Japan. I'd learn Japanese just to help people.
restlesspride666 3 months ago
The only problem I had with the foreigners in Tokyo was that after living thee a few months they became incredibly egotistical. As much as I would've liked to feel like part of a foreign community, I couldn't bring myself to be around people who acted like celebrities all the time. Luckily I met a few who were more down to earth though, but it's difficult, or at least it was for me.
zerbyn 3 months ago
There is an old saying that works well with this situation. "Don't **** in your back yard." Give peace a chance and all that.
SinisterTee 3 months ago
This girl interprets too much into "Your pronunciation sucks".
You post something for people to see, you get reactions.
You wanted that, didn't you? Or did you expect the reactions to be only positive?
shirankao69 3 months ago
I think that one of the big problems is the individualism that exists in most Western societies. Many people have been taught to bolster their self-esteem by trying to put others below themselves. "I am the best! You suck! Me! Me! Me!"
groggyfroggy77 3 months ago
All this time I've been saying superiority complex, napoleon sounds much better. Yep about the celebrity thing, except in China with us foreigners its the opposite, people starting out hating you, and then you get liked by everyone, so the celebrity feeling doesnt really happen to many us foreigners in China....gotta admit it though, I liked the celebrity status in Japan
wingwaabuddha 3 months ago
Licking it!
ytvration 3 months ago
My friend who lived there for a while told me stories of this happening. She's so chill she's untouchable by any sort of high-and-mightiness, but she would tell me about others that did judge. It was a bit weird until I considered that when I came to America, I got a lot of the "novelty" thing, too. When other foreigners come along it's a bit like they're stealing your thunder, I suppose. In America, however, foreigners have a strong community, however, so this feeling goes away shortly.
kittiliciousanime 3 months ago
Thanks for the vid! ;)
MANNY100123 3 months ago
I get what she's saying, but I still don't give people (外人) a free pass if they are a douche. Douche's are douche's anywhere in the world, and that's why there are people with this "Napolean complex" in Japan.
watsursnbaby 3 months ago 5
@watsursnbaby
Definitely. I've called out a douche in public man a time.
Gimmeabreakman 3 months ago
referring to a napoleon complex seems incorrect. it refers to shorter people who view their height negatively doesn't it?
walidb123 3 months ago
ITS TRUE!! PEOPLE TREAT JAPAN LIKE A BAND!! So, if you only liked them in the last 2 years, youre a poser. Youre only legit if you know all the lyrics (know japanese) and you can spew pointless trivia about them, making you worthy of appreciating.
Ignorant tourists, quiet observers, Japanophiles, Otaku and Faux-taku are all fine, just dont be a superior or obnoxious douchebag.
shenzishenzi 3 months ago 2
Sorry couldn't listen bc you said you weren't integrated enough
adamdxpt2 3 months ago
I didn't know there was such a problem with haters.
But I was thinking during the video: If a person is an A-hole in their home country.. that's not going to stop them from being an H-hole in Japan.
Personally.. I'd just do my best to ignore them and not let them get to me.
Thanks for the interesting video and good luck.
markshmily 3 months ago
I can't help but say hello to fellow gaijin when we're cramped into each others personal space or passing by on a empty path, it just feels right to me. 1/2 the time I'm given a strange look or the response is in the tone of oh hi wtf are you talking to me, I'm blending in here, did u not notice my assimilation lol...I once had a guy twitter how some ozzy had said hello to him on the yamanote in a negative way. I saw the text & was tempted to punch him, but I didn't coz I'm heaps cooler lol ; P
MicknFumi 3 months ago
I wana do her hair...
Sn00kyCr00ksWorld 3 months ago
@Gimmeaflakeman
She should be the half of the Two and a half Oyajis! Seriously! Your ratings would go through the roof!
TheClemson999 3 months ago 2
Hey, I went to Japan for only 2 weeks but I also had the experience like I was a celebrity. I even had to sit and be asked questions by Japanese students sort of like a press conference almost.
Its easier to lose your head in it all, but I managed to stay grounded. I definitely agree that foreginers in Japan should be nicer too each other, since when a problem arise another foreigner would be to relate to it better than a Japanese person would, if its was that kind of problem
hoshiko123 3 months ago
Yeah... no. There are gaijin that I would never, ever want to commune with. Sorry, not gonna be apart of "that" community.
ChemistInJapan 3 months ago
I was going to support this video by licking it, couldn't quite figure out how to so I've liked it instead :P <3
FudgeDread 3 months ago
i experienced the whole i feel like a celebrity thing when i was first in japan. i may experience it again when i move there, but i hope to the gaysha gods that i never let it get to me. i most definitely won't be attacking other foreigners cuz that's not my style, but i hope someone slap's me up side my gaysha wig if i do!!!
TheMexicanGaysha 3 months ago
Not caring about your pronunciation isn't good but, all right.
MurdocLC 3 months ago
What I was bored if it.....what's wrong with that..... It's my opinion on this vlog lol
Hajime598 3 months ago
Guess I could say though, that the only foreigners I ever really got annoyed with were the ones that thought Japan should be like anime. There's just something about them that irks me. They just start the ball rolling on hate when they arrive to Japan and start to criticize how it "isn't like it is in the animes."
ikari7789 3 months ago 2
@ikari7789 I SO FEEL YOU! I was going to post the same things you said! High 5! (Been in around Shinjuku from September)
vikohone 3 months ago
I could just continue on "living" and worry about my own life, and my own problems. And if I had some foreigner friends, so be it. I will admit though. I wanted to have more Japanese friends than foreign friends, solely for the purpose of, not assimilating into Japanese culture, but to be better able to /learn/ Japanese. I went to Japan because I love the language, and to be able to become more fluent. Hanging out with other foreigners 24/7 wasn't going to advance my goal, but impede it.
ikari7789 3 months ago 2
I think I can agree with this statement completely... And I know that I also went through a phase where I got really touchy whenever I saw another foreigner in Japan (Not at my college, but around Osaka or Kyoto). Kinda felt like... dude, what're you doing? But I'd say this feeling only lasted a few months until I just became adjusted to ignoring everything around me like I could do back in the states due to the familiarity of everything. I didn't feel I had to soak in a new experience every day
ikari7789 3 months ago
I've seen and felt this phenomenon before, it's like someone is trying to step on your god territory xD
strati5phere 3 months ago
Ren is awesome. Great vid on a relevant subject!
Hikosaemon 3 months ago
Is japan republican or democratic?
slowmotiontrainwreck 3 months ago
@slowmotiontrainwreck
Ask US citizens the same question.
Wikipedia says: The gov. of Japan is a constitutional monarchy where the power of the Emperor is very limited. A ceremonial figurehead, he is defined by the 1947 constitution as "the symbol of the state and of the unity of the people". Power is held chiefly by the Prime Minister of Japan & other elected members of the Diet, while sovereignty is vested in the Japanese people.
japanesefoodchannel 3 months ago
Thank you for the video, sad that hear that people are hating on each other for no good reason.
Nemesis093781 3 months ago
sounds like the nasty foreigners are just taking the high school geek clique snobbery thing up a notch. The old "we're so unique because we're intelligent" thing combined with "Get off my cloud" syndrome mixed with the mythologizing of Japan itself (the mythologizing of the "uniqueness" and "difficulty" and "ancientness" of the culture... tea ceremony, rituals, etc.) and the self-mythologizing of the foreigner. White foreigners in Korea didn't seem to do that. From what I've seen anyway.
scifiwritir1 3 months ago
@scifiwritir1 Excellent comment I wish I could put such thoughts into words as greatly as you did!
WorldOfSnakes 3 months ago
Wow I got bored an had to stop vid. I guess I really don't care. LoL about people fighting over these things lol...
Hajime598 3 months ago
@Hajime598 you could at leat Read the title...
nikeweber 3 months ago
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japanesefoodchannel 3 months ago
The word weeaboo's funny because only white people call others that. What makes them think they know all things japanese? The people who call others that are worst than weaboo's,There the ones going of racists stereotypes and assume everyone who likes anime is into the country of japan.
Burikami 3 months ago
She looks cool, i suscribed.
The problem with a lot of gaijins is that they really want to fit in. Which is normal. But in order to do that, they often feel that they have to cut the ties with every other foreigner.
One gaijin among other gaijin just looks like any other lame gaijin. But a gaijin among japanese people just looks really cool and all.
At least that's what they think. I suppose.
I say that, but if i was there, i would also try to "japanese up" as much as i can.
StormWolf01 3 months ago
Agreed c]:-)
1dockthorwho23 3 months ago
ur looking younger
kingpolaris 3 months ago
As the dumping friend thing goes, I think it is an entirely understandable thing for a foreigner in Japan - I'm not saying whether its right or wrong. But, if the individual desires to increase their Japanese ability, one of the soul forms to do so is by immersion. If the person has friends who do not push themselves hard to learn Japanese or make any effort to speak Japanese on a day to day basis. Then to say, "Let's hang out less." is understandable. Some peoples time in Japan is limited
icansplayguitar2 3 months ago
The fun thing is if are already a celebrity in your own country. Instead of finding that funny you find that annoying. :s
lekosboy 3 months ago
she kinda looked like this woman from "Heroes" ....sylars gf i think, who was killed.....by sylar... -.-
TornadoXFighter 3 months ago
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followbeninjapan 3 months ago
People love drama, and the easiest (and laziest) way to make yourself feel good and/or look better by comparison is to insult the other person. Pretty much the universal standard that's concentrated to a high degree on the internet.
Relatharr 3 months ago
"She's also the new..." I know what she is, I know I know! *literally jumping for joy*
;)
lissheim 3 months ago
Great points in this video. Every time I watch your videos, I feel like you're channeling my own brains.
My experiences with this kind of "competition" have usually been very subtle. It's often at a mainly-foreign party, and there's one person in the room that asks the people around: "So, how long have you been in Japan?" Suddenly, everyone is answering and a "pecking" order is established. I can't stand the "Japanesier than thou" types, but the majority of the foreigners I know are cool.
ArishaInTokyo 3 months ago
Yeay for the something new!!!!!!!
lunargirl81 3 months ago
Get your Napoleon complex under control Victor!!! It's not like you are a celebrity or anything.... Oh wait, my bad... Hahaha
prettyflydude 3 months ago 10
@prettyflydude
I am sooo famous, dude! Even my dog knows my name!
Gimmeaflakeman 3 months ago 19
Dear MilkJamJuice,
I wholeheartedly agree this is a pathetic problem. Japanese in Japan are more than helpful to one another and pour much effort to keep communication lines open in my opinion. As for foreigners, I believe when many come it's usually because they work for an Eikaiwa. After staying awhile making friends that are japanese they tend to realize many of their English counterparts don't put much effort to assimilate. I think that creates divide into who's truly here for long or short.
yammymyhammy 3 months ago
Interesting that people started throwing the word "weeaboo" around. Guess it just goes to prove my point.
milkjamjuice 3 months ago
If I had to hear people like some of the douche bags in the comment section while I was in japan, I would avoid them too. I am a nice guy, I dont judge others harshly, but if a person is rude, uncaring, or throwing the weeboo word around to anybody at all, I wouldnt want to associate them
I have heard enough bad tails and see enough garbage from americans in japan and commenters here who supposedly enjoy it who are ready to judge for not enjoying it how they think it should be enjoyed
waltermh111 3 months ago
I have only been here for about 4 months but when I see another gaijin here I do not know what to do. Do I smile and say hi to my fellow gaijin, or just walk by? Because of course in America (I am American), you do not walk up to someone and start talking to them because you are both non-Japanese. So I tend to just run away ^^; Most gaijin I see here are male adults though (and I am a girl high schooler) so it's weird in that way too.
(btw I know my username is misleading, but I am not a weeboo)
animefreakXDD 3 months ago
@animefreakXDD
Yeah, with the amount of foreigners in Tokyo you pretty much have to just walk by. I've never seen this 'gaijin nod' in any other countries I've been to either, so I think it's best to just go on as normal :L
TJPguy 3 months ago
@TJPguy Oh btw I'm not in Tokyo I'm out in Kyushu. But yeah.
animefreakXDD 3 months ago
I totally agree with your theory as to why. When I lived in tokyo, I need feel that foreigners tended to treat each other with suspicion rather than friendliness, but now I'm in the countryside of hyogo, I feel foreigners sticking together alot more and there is a community, at least where I live.
karekora 3 months ago
Oh, haha.
That is so true.
OpheliasNightmares 3 months ago
This is incredibly true but I have yet to meet another person living in Japan that acts this way. I think they only exist on the internet.
hippykiller1 3 months ago
My thoughts exactly.
NikkeinJapan 3 months ago
The weaboos are quite annoying and they kind of creep me out. But average people who just happen to live in Japan or want to teach is absolutely fine with me. I just don't like creepy men who wear school girl uniforms and wigs at home.
astrocientista 3 months ago
Agreed. Gaijin on Gaijin hate is bad. Can't we all just get along?
arivas713 3 months ago
I've been studying in Japan for about 3 months now and this is something I think about a lot. It's hard to make sweeping statements, because everyone's motivation for being in Japan is different.
I'm a Japanese major at my university in England and the main reason I'm here is to improve my Japanese. Obviously if I only mix with foreigners, that's not going to happen. So there are definitely times when I don't want to hang out with other foreigners. But it has nothing to do with me "hating" them.
keiochris 3 months ago
Lightyears are a way to measure distance not time.
CAesuoMykcM 3 months ago 18
@CAesuoMykcM I am completely aware of this. While I really don't give two flying shits, I will give you the Pedantic Award for the day. But it's okay, I'm guilty of being way over concerned about things that don't matter, too.
milkjamjuice 3 months ago
@CAesuoMykcM Oh, whoops. Sorry, my comment to you came as really harsh. Please replace my rude language with, "I really don't care," and "I'm usually the one who gets the Pedantic Asshole Award, so don't feel bad about that. We are very similar on that level."
milkjamjuice 3 months ago
@CAesuoMykcM "We're still light years away from" is a reasonably common construction in English. It refers to time.
owenjd 3 months ago
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im sorry for being a smart ass but at 5:05 when she sais light years, light years is a measure of distance not time.
migeruZ99 3 months ago
im sorry for being a smart ass but at 5:10 when she sais light years, light years is a measure of distance not time.
migeruZ99 3 months ago
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i have not experienced this at all, i have only been here for 1 month though.
kablam86 3 months ago
Consider it licked.
reymiland 3 months ago
wow i never thought of it that way, why the foreigner vs foreigner thing exists, i always thought if a jerk, no matter what nationality, iun like em.. but i didn't mind if foreign friends (when i was there) didn't speak it... but i did get pissed off it was the 11th time i had to order pizza for someone over the phone. AT LEAST GIMME SOME OF THE PIZZA DAMMIT!!
shotanime 3 months ago
rennnnnn ♥ ♥
mediocreapple 3 months ago
To Quote Commander Worf "Assimilate This".
commodore256 3 months ago
@Gimmeaflakeman I like this guest sensei. She's got a good head on her shoulders and, I agree, plenty of balls.
Jimaera 3 months ago
enjoyed :)
ProjectVanBand 3 months ago
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
warpedgaijin 3 months ago
Oh, her bowl cut is HOT. LMFAO.
OtakuKate 3 months ago
It's the American way of doing things. Comparing themselves to others.
kantishna39 3 months ago
Y U NO lick this video ლ(ಠ益ಠლ?
MXjemp 3 months ago
I live in Japan, all the foreigners ive met are cool, maybe its just your experience?
I gotta admit, its a bit awkward passing other gaijin on the street but I wouldnt say its a negative feeling.
kuroibuta 3 months ago
@kuroibuta
I'm curious, what part of Japan are you talking about? If it was somewhere like Tokyo, it'd be pretty impossible to feel awkward because there are so many lol
TJPguy 3 months ago
I am new commer to Japan, but i dont feel like a celebrity. I dont get anyone looking at me lol. People keep telling me how people will stair, noone has drastically staired anymore than they do in my home country. If i walk by someone ofcourse they look at me, I think everyone looks at another person and notices them. But none turns back, or stairs or anything. lol I guess i am one of those celebritys noone care about lol.
kanadajin3 3 months ago
white people have to be the only people in the world that hate each other in foreign countries. I swear, every other culture of people do not do this B[a
KaxyzKoi 3 months ago
obviously she's the new oyaji
ItsDaRonBitch 3 months ago 2
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That video was taken out of context.
mikemustmurder 3 months ago
I thought she was a guy =O She's the new oyaji right? hehehe
fabitapunk 3 months ago 3
Totally agree here. I live in a fair sized city and we have 9 foreigners working in my office as well as another four or five who are in our circle of 'familiars'. I can tell you now when a 'new' foreign comes to town, even a tourist, I am very protective of my city. I don't hate them, but I think it is a device used to defend myself from feeling threatened. Great topic!
naedaily 3 months ago
And now I'm starting to think maybe he wasn't so happy that me, a non-Japanese, is going through the same process of learning Japanese as he did, and he wants to feel like he's the only one. Why are people so r.e.t.a.r.d.s.?
WorldOfSnakes 3 months ago
Damn I'm learning Japanese for 7 months now, and I'm so far away literally light years away from all this bullshit...thinking about all these sore foreigners walking around in Japan trying to be "The thing" there...
At my local Japanese Cultural Center in my city (where I take JP classes), I met a man who's been to Japan and who talks Japanese and all, he seemed very kind with the Japanese, so I thought he's a kind guy. I went to discuss with him about our common passion, but he was very cold
WorldOfSnakes 3 months ago
good point
kalbaman 3 months ago
Why are people such Nazis about Japanese pronunciation. Accents are beautiful! I always suggest to the many foreigners I deal with all the time in my resort community I live and work in to retain their accent. Why try and sound like a native? Your special, your from another country, rejoice. I want Japanese people to understand me, I don't want to
A. tell them how to speak their language
or
B. try and fool them into thinking I was born in Japan
Demo.... I think you should look up Napoleon com.
GengoNoTabi 3 months ago 3
I think some people went to Japan to escape the others in their countries. So when they see them, they're not too happy about it.
That and like she said, people are selfish and they like to keep the goodies for themselves..
I think there's also the issue of looking threatening by grouping with other non-Japanese people. Let me be clear on that, what I mean is that they might be thinking that associating with other gaijin they might look threatening to the homogeneous Japanese..
Ido013 3 months ago
@Ido013 About the "threatening" argument of yours...I don't think these people are thinking that far into it...
WorldOfSnakes 3 months ago
@WorldOfSnakes Even these people think really too much of themselves so I wouldn't scratch it off （・∀・）
Ido013 3 months ago
its so true, this exactly mirrors my experience in Japan. I only went for a month, and was only attending school for one week of that month, but the "celebrity status" that milkjamjuice described is so real. It might be weird to imagine if you haven't experienced it, but you feel like a whole different person. It's really easy to let it go to your head, and it's often really hard to catch yourself, but I always tried to bring myself back to earth and stay humble lol
icanfiksthat 3 months ago
she's cool, nice video
poopistation 3 months ago
I love your territorial analogy...it's the primitive nature of mankind. Hard to break that cycle.
What I really hate in Japan is the stupid racial/national/ethnic hierarchy that gets brought over here and reinforced at every turn instead of starting with a clean slate in a country that could use a lot of positive knowledge about the world.
MrKoize 3 months ago
lol she picked the girl that looks like she has down syndrome
scusucks 3 months ago
I love milkjamjuice, she's a very down to earth MATURE woman... And doesn't take any shit from anyone.... :P
Batmanshack 3 months ago
Although it might be nice to imagine that gaijin stick together and are a community, I'd have to say the following. What if you were in your own country, say America or Australia, and there were Indians or Vietnamese people as a minority who have immigrated or are working in these Western countries. Would you expect them to all merrily get along? I intensely dislike the stereotypes that my country gets, but it doesn't mean that I want to get along with all my fellow Australians. :/
Kirarachu 3 months ago
cercl
zigq8vc0 3 months ago
white/Caucasian foreigners. i notice my chinese and indonesian friends living in tokyo don't get any attention at all cos they aren't "cool" foreigners to know, lol
LeeroyChenkins 3 months ago
light years are distance not time
jordler 3 months ago
haha definitely experienced the gaijin hate from other foreigners while I lived in Osaka, but I also hated going to shinsaibashi b/c of all the foreigners so it kind of swung both ways I guess
Bennalicious 3 months ago
It just so happens that weeaboos are assholes.
pandamanana 3 months ago
@pandamanana
Your definition of weaboo being?
Gimmeaflakeman 3 months ago 6
@Gimmeaflakeman
From urbandictionary: "Weaboo: A negative term directed to anyone overly obsessed with Japanese culture to the point where they become annoying."
It's a form of "wanna be japanese." It's not only found linked to japanese culture but also foreigners, or children of foreigners; who try SO hard to be accepted in that culture that they sometimes take pretty extreme stances on topics, mostly to appease to the hivemind they think represents the core of that country's culture.
agsiar 3 months ago
@agsiar
Sorry, meant to say "appeal" not "appease" :)
agsiar 3 months ago
@agsiar
Well the urban dictionary is a fun site but not sure they have a real grasp of what the general understanding of certain slang words are. I remember looking words up that and finding tongue-in-cheek answers. My understanding of weaboo is someone who is really into the anime/manga/cute culture. I'd even argue most "weaboos" don't live in Japan.
Gimmeaflakeman 3 months ago 11
@Gimmeaflakeman Agsiar spelled it out pretty well. Some people are just WAY too into Japan for the wrong reasons. Those are the people I would call weaboos. Also, I'd agree that most weaboos don't live in Japan, but I'm sure some do. Those are the unfortunate bad eggs that bad mouth other Gaijin
pandamanana 3 months ago
@pandamanana
Yeah, I would define a Weeaboo as someone with more of an obsession with Japan than anything, even Anime. It may sound rare, but I know people who are actually obsessed with Japan itself to the point of insanity. It'd make even the most hardened person cringe.
TJPguy 3 months ago
@Gimmeaflakeman I used to be into the Anime Crap, but I wouldn't call myself a weeaboo, But I call my friend Zack a weeaboo because he has a Freakin' Japanese Flag in his Room.
But I'm just teasing him, I think a real weeaboo is a snob about Japanese culture.
commodore256 3 months ago
@commodore256 If I said Japanese society is better than say the U.S or UK's that makes me a weeboo snob?
Some societies are just better than others, accept it!.
Does the U.S have a better society then say Iraq?...of course right?.
But dare say a Western society is worst than Japan and people like you start throwing insults around to make yourself feel better.
Easier to just insult someone rather than to prove them wrong isn't it?
benitofinito 3 months ago
@benitofinito You can like it better than American Culture till' the Cows come Home, it's just rude to be a snob about it.
I did the same thing with records, you just look like a douche bag if you say "your itunes mp3s are shit, they're nowhere near the quality of the Master, that's why I buy Records!"
It's much nicer to say "well, personally, I actually buy Records instead of MP3s because Records actually sound better because it's closer to the actual recording believe it or not :)":
commodore256 3 months ago
@Gimmeaflakeman
Indeed, but it does serve to give at least some sense on the slang that can be confusing when first encounterd (it sure has helped me!). Anyway, yes, the term "weaboo" is most often used to denote that group, probably because it is the most vocal/noisy, but it doesn't stop there. It could also be used when reffering about someone who not only insists that X, Y and/or Z is better in Japan, but that anyone stating otherwise is stupid and wrong (I'm not exaggerating).
agsiar 3 months ago
@agsiar
From what I've seen, in casual internet conversation people tend to switch from weaboo to otaku and back with ease, thus blurring when one ends and the other starts. For better or worse I am into manga/anime but the sort of people who aren't shouting "JAPAN #1, EVERTHING ELSE IS FAIL" are normally not classified as "weaboo." But yes, pretty sure that most weaboos are foreigners.
Anyway, you must take this with a grain of salt, since this is as I understand things. Hope it helps. Cheers.
agsiar 3 months ago
@Gimmeaflakeman
While I would agree that *ubrandictionary* is a fun site, I wouldn't discount it totally, like wikipedia, its a collection of different opinions and views, which may or may not add to its validity, if you go to the root of the website and paste in *define . php?term=Weaboo* you can see there are many people saying the same things.
Don't get me wrong, I don't really care about this subject, but I do care about the validity of a source of information. rule = grain of salt
cheers
strati5phere 3 months ago
@Gimmeaflakeman Okay, I'm asking this honestly. What does the word weeaboo means? I've heard it, read it here and there on some blogs and I yet don't know what's the meaning of that word. I could just look it up, but i don't think that would be the actual meaning.
CAesuoMykcM 3 months ago
@pandamanana I don't like weaboos. I went to Japan to hang out with a friend in Ueno, but I was staying in a hostel. The hostel was basically a breeding ground for weaboos. Their voices, their faces and their words were just annoying as fuck. They occupied the second floor and it smelled like ass with spicy curry.
One night I went to the second floor and knocked on one of the room doors, I was just curious so I made up a story to go with this action, as soon as the door swung open, THE SMELL!!!!
ViLeDeth 3 months ago
She knows what she's talking about!
WillingSoul711 3 months ago
Its a conversion behaviour. Foreigners come to Japan wanting to fit in and notice qualities that the Japanese dislike about stereotypical gaijin(loud, disrespectful, etc) and so they work against showing these traits. I wouldn't call Japan racist, but it's certainly another thing people ironically do to try to fit in. They're afraid people will act in X way and vicariously embarass them (all gaijin) You get exactly the same thing within gay circles, alot of'straight-acting' gays hate camp people
tidenburg 3 months ago
She is going to be the next/new Oyaji, eh? Coolbeanz
DavidicusVH 3 months ago 2
licked it, tasted funny :P
TheVloggingGaijin 3 months ago
americans do haz a funny pronounciation for the word foreigner/s dooood ¦3
Menchias 3 months ago
I get a lot of jokes at work because of my love for Japan with folks saying I'm going to marry a Japanese girl or I wish I was Japanese which is far removed from the truth. While I do love J girls, I'm not keen on marrying anybody much less a specific nationality. I also don't wish I was Japanese because its not an easy culture to grow up in with all of the different social elements one has to balance. I do wish I could live in Japan whenever I wanted but that's a different topic.
perdomot 3 months ago
Oops, meant "but expecting".
perdomot 3 months ago
Main criticism I see on Youtube from one gaijin to another is when one of them expects the Japanese folks to change according to what they think is right. Its understandable that people from different cultures bring their own quirks to Japan to expecting the Japanese to just accept their way of doing things is just foolish. Japanese have a certain way they do things and EVERYBODY is expected to do it that way including gaijin although there is some forgiveness for our lack of knowledge.
perdomot 3 months ago
A Light Year is a measurement of distance not time dumb ass... Just kidding thanks for the video :)
rdw2008 3 months ago
I LOVE REN! X3
kuponut26 3 months ago
Ren is amazing! I'm so glad she's the new Oyaji! Yaaaaay!
:)
310BPM 3 months ago 2