Also, last time I checked, Israel's Arab neighbors Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel, Iraq is no longer a threat, and Syria and Saudi Arabia offered peace deals. So, where are the "1 billion Arabs who want to destroy Israel"?
Are there really 5 million Palestinians in Israel where 6 million Jews live? That is not true. In Judea/Samaria live 1,5 million Arabs. Could not Jordan which sits on 80% of Palestine, which is 4 times the size of Israel, accept them as nationals (they won't move there, just be Jordanians). What is so difficult? Tiny Israel lives among around 1 billion Arabs who want to destroy Israel. And Jordan, situated among 1 billion brothers cannot give a pasport to 1,5 million brothers?
There are 1.2 million INSIDE Israel itself and 4 million in Palestinian territories. However, there ARE 5 million Palestinians living in refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, etc. They want a home. They want Palestine.
Also, despite Jordan's regional size, incorporating 5 million Palestinians from the Palestinian National Authority (plus ANOTHER 5 million Palestinian refugees) into their society would be a catastrophe of epic scales. There's no way to provide for THAT many people.
Imagine if Canada accepted 66 MILLION American immigrants. Would Canada be okay with that? No, because Canada can't support ALL these people just like Jordan can not TRIPLE its population. There would be cultural clashes and Palestinian nationalists calling for a chunk of land to be carved out of Jordan for the Palestinians. It was be a disaster.
So, you think Canada's economy can handle a rapid influx of 33 MILLION unemployed people, seeking jobs, shelter, security, etc.? You realize that would damage Canada's economy to beyond belief?
Imagine if Israel actually accepted the "right of return." Do you think Israel could actually follow through with that plan without being damaged economically, socially, or politically?
Ahh, so all the Palestinians had jobs and security? if they can herd sheep in one backwards society with no real government they can fit into any other West Asian country with 1 billion other Arabs. Israel is the most productive country in all of North Africa. I support human progression more than caring about a few arab deadbeats having their dirt houses and olive trees.
First off, Israel is NOT in North Africa. Next time don't sleep through your Geography lesson.
Now, as I say, Jordan can't accept ALL the Palestinians. That would be a terrible idea. Right now the refugees in Jordan are a drain of 7% on Jordan's GDP.
Imagine how high that number would be if Jordan accepted EVERY Palestinian (in Gaza, the West Bank, and the other Arab countries). That is ludicrous. Jordan simply can't do that. They'll destroy their own country.
If Israel was part of Egypt it would be North African. Instead it's West Asian because of a little seperation. Oh well.
Now, who is saying anything about Jordan? I'm talking about all your arab buddies doing their part. There's sooo much free sand area that's being unused, why don't they live there? it would be no different to how they lived in Palestine.
Okay. Well, I'm glad you understand that Israel isn't part of North Africa.
First off, they're not my "Arab buddies." I'm not Arab.
Secondly, "who said anything about Jordan"? Did you even watch the video? Brownback endorsed the plan to transfer ALL 5 MILLION Palestinians from Gaza, Israel, and West Bank PLUS the 4 MILLION from the Arab countries to JORDAN!! Did you miss what he was talking about?
Also, I have no problem with the Palestinians already living in Arab countries to gain citizenship there but kicking Palestinians out of their homes in Gaza, Israel and the West Bank is a absurd and inhumane idea! Of course, maybe you support that type of Lebensraum, er... I mean "peace solution."
The Palestinian people never owned the land they lived on, it belonged to Britain. Israel bought its land legally. Yes they spread, but only because they were attacked by these savages. When you wage war you must be prepared for the consequences. Over 300 years ago they could have slaughtered every Palestinian and no one would blink an eye, it's just the way the world worked.
I know about Israel's history. However, the UN Partition Plan clearly stated 55% goes to Israel, 45% goes to Palestine. I realize the Arabs rejected this plan, Israel gained 23% more land while Egypt and Jordan occupied Gaza and the West Bank. I know that.
Now Israel must accept the Oslo Accords. They haven't been at full-scale war with the Arabs since 73' (unless you count the Intifada). Now, why doesn't Israel respect the Oslo Accords?
Then why did you respond? I was clearly talking about the content in the video. Why didn't you watch the video before responding to understand what I was commenting about?
If/After you do, could you please tell me your position on the Elon "Peace" Plan? Do you support deporting 5 MILLION people from their homes?
YES! YES!.. let's break OUT OF THE BOX !! Senator Brownback is right, the idea of land for "peace" will not work - land was ceded, peace didn't follow ....
A long-term solution involving Jordan (80% Palestinian population) could be a NEW WAY FORWARD! - OR, Is there really NO ROOM (heart) in the already 22 existing Arab states to absorb the Palestinian refugees ???
Senator Brownwack is UNFIT to hold any office. He claims to be a lawyer. He took an oath to defend the Constitution, yet he is rsponsible for the DRACONIAN, blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL 'Intl Romance Regulation Act'. Now it's a felony for ALL American citizens to communicate, write friendship letters, or even say 'Hello' to foreigners under Brownback's despicable legislation.
Fuck you, Brownback. Why the hell would the Palestinians want to live in Jordan? They don't want to be dumped off in some random country while their homes are bulldozed, making way for more Israeli settlements. They want their OWN place to call home. You're just setting the conflict BACK a decade. He's not getting my vote.
Where there is a West Bank there is an East Bank too. They are both in the Land Of Israel and I see no reason why the Jews and Arabs should not split, they cannot live together. Why would Jordan not be willing to grant the Jordanian Nationality to their fellow Arabs who live across the Jordan in Judea/Samaria? Israel could reciprocate and grant Israeli citizenship to all the Jews of the world. Without anyone really moving.
I'm not advocating Israel and Palestine unit and Israel accept 4 million Palestinian refugees. That would be national suicide.
But Brownback is saying he would support transferring over 5 MILLION Palestinians into Jordan. Is he crazy? That's TWICE Jordan's current population. Jordan can't accept all these people. And what about the Palestinians? Do you think they enjoy being moved around like cattle? Many of them have lived in the West Bank native Palestine for generations and wish to continue.
living in native Palestine. It's where many of them have lived for decades. Many of their ancestors date back centuries. Just like the Jews. Don't you think it's unfair to move these people OUT of a place they have ancestral roots to? Wasn't that the purpose of creating Israel in the Middle East?
Understand that the Palestinians would be the ones moving. They want to live where they're currently living. Why do people want to kick them out of their home?
Zionism is the greatest form of anti-Semitism and it's ideology is completely contrary to Judaism. Free Palestine and end the occupation!!
thisvigilantguardian 1 year ago
Also, last time I checked, Israel's Arab neighbors Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel, Iraq is no longer a threat, and Syria and Saudi Arabia offered peace deals. So, where are the "1 billion Arabs who want to destroy Israel"?
DrRockso87 3 years ago
Are there really 5 million Palestinians in Israel where 6 million Jews live? That is not true. In Judea/Samaria live 1,5 million Arabs. Could not Jordan which sits on 80% of Palestine, which is 4 times the size of Israel, accept them as nationals (they won't move there, just be Jordanians). What is so difficult? Tiny Israel lives among around 1 billion Arabs who want to destroy Israel. And Jordan, situated among 1 billion brothers cannot give a pasport to 1,5 million brothers?
wiesje 3 years ago
There are 1.2 million INSIDE Israel itself and 4 million in Palestinian territories. However, there ARE 5 million Palestinians living in refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, etc. They want a home. They want Palestine.
Also, despite Jordan's regional size, incorporating 5 million Palestinians from the Palestinian National Authority (plus ANOTHER 5 million Palestinian refugees) into their society would be a catastrophe of epic scales. There's no way to provide for THAT many people.
DrRockso87 3 years ago
Imagine if Canada accepted 66 MILLION American immigrants. Would Canada be okay with that? No, because Canada can't support ALL these people just like Jordan can not TRIPLE its population. There would be cultural clashes and Palestinian nationalists calling for a chunk of land to be carved out of Jordan for the Palestinians. It was be a disaster.
DrRockso87 3 years ago
Why not? Canada could easily handle 66 million.
easternslavic 3 years ago
So, you think Canada's economy can handle a rapid influx of 33 MILLION unemployed people, seeking jobs, shelter, security, etc.? You realize that would damage Canada's economy to beyond belief?
Imagine if Israel actually accepted the "right of return." Do you think Israel could actually follow through with that plan without being damaged economically, socially, or politically?
DrRockso87 3 years ago
Ahh, so all the Palestinians had jobs and security? if they can herd sheep in one backwards society with no real government they can fit into any other West Asian country with 1 billion other Arabs. Israel is the most productive country in all of North Africa. I support human progression more than caring about a few arab deadbeats having their dirt houses and olive trees.
easternslavic 3 years ago
First off, Israel is NOT in North Africa. Next time don't sleep through your Geography lesson.
Now, as I say, Jordan can't accept ALL the Palestinians. That would be a terrible idea. Right now the refugees in Jordan are a drain of 7% on Jordan's GDP.
Imagine how high that number would be if Jordan accepted EVERY Palestinian (in Gaza, the West Bank, and the other Arab countries). That is ludicrous. Jordan simply can't do that. They'll destroy their own country.
DrRockso87 3 years ago
If Israel was part of Egypt it would be North African. Instead it's West Asian because of a little seperation. Oh well.
Now, who is saying anything about Jordan? I'm talking about all your arab buddies doing their part. There's sooo much free sand area that's being unused, why don't they live there? it would be no different to how they lived in Palestine.
easternslavic 3 years ago
Okay. Well, I'm glad you understand that Israel isn't part of North Africa.
First off, they're not my "Arab buddies." I'm not Arab.
Secondly, "who said anything about Jordan"? Did you even watch the video? Brownback endorsed the plan to transfer ALL 5 MILLION Palestinians from Gaza, Israel, and West Bank PLUS the 4 MILLION from the Arab countries to JORDAN!! Did you miss what he was talking about?
DrRockso87 3 years ago
Also, I have no problem with the Palestinians already living in Arab countries to gain citizenship there but kicking Palestinians out of their homes in Gaza, Israel and the West Bank is a absurd and inhumane idea! Of course, maybe you support that type of Lebensraum, er... I mean "peace solution."
DrRockso87 3 years ago
The Palestinian people never owned the land they lived on, it belonged to Britain. Israel bought its land legally. Yes they spread, but only because they were attacked by these savages. When you wage war you must be prepared for the consequences. Over 300 years ago they could have slaughtered every Palestinian and no one would blink an eye, it's just the way the world worked.
easternslavic 3 years ago
I know about Israel's history. However, the UN Partition Plan clearly stated 55% goes to Israel, 45% goes to Palestine. I realize the Arabs rejected this plan, Israel gained 23% more land while Egypt and Jordan occupied Gaza and the West Bank. I know that.
Now Israel must accept the Oslo Accords. They haven't been at full-scale war with the Arabs since 73' (unless you count the Intifada). Now, why doesn't Israel respect the Oslo Accords?
DrRockso87 3 years ago
I wasn't listening to the guy in the video, I was voicing my opinion.
easternslavic 3 years ago
Then why did you respond? I was clearly talking about the content in the video. Why didn't you watch the video before responding to understand what I was commenting about?
If/After you do, could you please tell me your position on the Elon "Peace" Plan? Do you support deporting 5 MILLION people from their homes?
DrRockso87 3 years ago
Annapolis failed and will fail again...
Solution? > "the Israeli Initiative"
A great plan!
dialogue3 4 years ago
YES! YES!.. let's break OUT OF THE BOX !! Senator Brownback is right, the idea of land for "peace" will not work - land was ceded, peace didn't follow ....
A long-term solution involving Jordan (80% Palestinian population) could be a NEW WAY FORWARD! - OR, Is there really NO ROOM (heart) in the already 22 existing Arab states to absorb the Palestinian refugees ???
JEANETT7 4 years ago
Senator Brownwack is UNFIT to hold any office. He claims to be a lawyer. He took an oath to defend the Constitution, yet he is rsponsible for the DRACONIAN, blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL 'Intl Romance Regulation Act'. Now it's a felony for ALL American citizens to communicate, write friendship letters, or even say 'Hello' to foreigners under Brownback's despicable legislation.
RepealIMBRA 4 years ago 2
Fuck you, Brownback. Why the hell would the Palestinians want to live in Jordan? They don't want to be dumped off in some random country while their homes are bulldozed, making way for more Israeli settlements. They want their OWN place to call home. You're just setting the conflict BACK a decade. He's not getting my vote.
DrRockso87 4 years ago
Where there is a West Bank there is an East Bank too. They are both in the Land Of Israel and I see no reason why the Jews and Arabs should not split, they cannot live together. Why would Jordan not be willing to grant the Jordanian Nationality to their fellow Arabs who live across the Jordan in Judea/Samaria? Israel could reciprocate and grant Israeli citizenship to all the Jews of the world. Without anyone really moving.
wiesje 3 years ago
I'm not advocating Israel and Palestine unit and Israel accept 4 million Palestinian refugees. That would be national suicide.
But Brownback is saying he would support transferring over 5 MILLION Palestinians into Jordan. Is he crazy? That's TWICE Jordan's current population. Jordan can't accept all these people. And what about the Palestinians? Do you think they enjoy being moved around like cattle? Many of them have lived in the West Bank native Palestine for generations and wish to continue.
DrRockso87 3 years ago
living in native Palestine. It's where many of them have lived for decades. Many of their ancestors date back centuries. Just like the Jews. Don't you think it's unfair to move these people OUT of a place they have ancestral roots to? Wasn't that the purpose of creating Israel in the Middle East?
Understand that the Palestinians would be the ones moving. They want to live where they're currently living. Why do people want to kick them out of their home?
DrRockso87 3 years ago