The American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada said in 2003 that properly planned vegan diets were nutritionally adequate for all stages of life, including pregnancy and lactation, and provided health benefits in the treatment and prevention of certain diseases. - Wikipedia
Funny how science, allways proove how vegans and vegetarians are healthier than omnivores. That means you're mistaken, haven't don'e your research, and you're an idiot for trying to justify killing annimals, when we don't need to. Eaven when I was a non veg. I wasn't this big of an asshole.
@starfaery No, science doesn't say that. Have you done any research at all yourself or have you just been listening to what PCRM, PETA and the China Study book say?
@wormmy1 Yes it does. Making assumptions about stuff you probably know very little about, for your own little comfortzone to diminnish, is not the best way to go about it. Go to sciencedaily . com, and find out for yourself. Doctors will say the same thing. And then you might wanna look at what
ELVA420 just stated. I don't know wht PCRM is, or condone the dual ways of Peta, Neither have i read "the China study".
@starfaery I'm a former vegan so I know first hand. how awful the diet is for people. Any diet that requires supplementation and micromanagement just for some people to be able to live is not optimal nor healthy. Research shows that animal protein is cancer protective and animal fats are the main source of fat soluble vitamins - the ones that reverse heart disease. Are you familiar with hte work of Weston Price? What he found in the 1930's is now being scientifically proven.
@wormmy1 Science also say otherwise. No I haven't heard of Weston Price. Can you give me a source that say non vegan food, does that. It depends what you put in your mouth. You can't just eat junk. And alot don't do their research, before going veg. I'm veg. myself, and has never had any health problems. In fact allmost never get sick, with the flu. I also eat organic only, whenver I can.
@starfaery Watch my videos. When meat is the ONLY thing people change, their risk of heart disease goes up, not down. Asian Indians are largely vegetarian and get heart disease and diabetes 10 years earlier than SAD eaters.
There are plenty of sources of all the things you claim vegans are deficient in. Flax Seed has Omega 6. Hemp has Omega 3. Walnuts? The only thing I supplement for is B12. But you can get that in Brewers yeast or tablets. All the benefits I get from a vegan diet and the only thing I have to supplement is B12. Meat has so many negatives such as Cholesterol, saturated fats, hormones, antibiotics and the obvious suffering too. Even organic meats die the same way. I'll stick with a vegan diet thanks.
If u dont think veganism is our past, i think it is our future cause ALL the nutriments of this "vegan deficiencies" -wich meat eaters have too-- can be synthesized and replace the animal sources (just if the people are too lazy to search NEW info and alternatives)
search "vegan warriors" and the freelee´s video "My AMAZING 40lb WEIGHT LOSS on Raw Food. Before & Afters" (before u say something look all her videos, including those about b12 and other deficiencies)
Almost every single argument you've made in this video is invalid. Vegans can very easily acquire all of the body's essential nutrients through both fortified and natural plant-based foods. That includes Omega-3 DHA, vitamin B12; every vegan knows this. Then again, this video IS about 5 years old, so you must've learned something about it since then.
@superevan07 The fact that vegans can get certain nutrients only from eating fortified crap and supplements proves that veganism is not natural. Fortification is very synthetic and artificial. Sure you can get all the nutrients like this, but that goes to show how it isn't natural
I neather eat Meat cause I´d never liked it. I respect the people who does. I just try not to contribute with the cruelty behind the biggest companies of food. They are neather healthy and natural. They make you sick.
And no- vegetarian/vegan nutritionists, like Barry Sears recomend you not to eat meat in excess! The shit meat industry grew up in that way because of the people who eat meat in excess, who are neather healthy.
Quantic Physics is a philosophy and also a science. It gives you facts and is based on reason. It demostrates that faith and facts are conected. You are just one more materialist. Being fanatic christian and an atheist is exactly the same thing. We all hace the right to explore and discover new ways of living. I say that, and im not a vegan.
Google 'Vegan Athletes" and "Vegan Bodybuilders" to see how ridiculous this guy's claims are. This guy obviously left pictures of guys like Mac Danzig and Noah "The Vegan Tank" Hannibal out of this video as it would not support his biased opinion.
I've been vegan for 6 years and vegetarian for 10 before that and at 39 years young I am feeling great. I currently workout six days a week, three of which are with a personal trainer doing functional fitness workouts and strength training.
Just do a search. As vegans are a small part of the population, there will obviously be less but there are plenty out there. Guys like Mike Mahler, Brendan Brasier, Jon Hinds, Edward Goins, Scott Jurek, etc. are all great examples.
@myquestforhealth In case you haven't noticed, vegan bodybuilders or athletes have either became vegan after they've become strong, or they take many different supplements. Even they know that without man-made vitamins, they'd be as weak as a chicken.
Also, you're lying when you say that you feel great. You're just denying the fact that you feel terrible from your dangerous and bland cow diet.
We're not living in the cavemendays anymore, our body's have evolved to a more plant based diet. b12 was normally found on unprocessed vegetables before conventional food. Calcium can be foound in sesami seeds. I think you've been misinformed, if not on all of your points.,,, For you to try and justify and kill animals ethical or not, makes you a bigtime moron.
Vitamin B-12 has never been so delicious. I've got a nice beef stew I'm gonna make, and it has a nice full flavor due to animal fat that's melted into it.
In addition to possibly having a lack of intrinsic factor, how many meat-eaters do you see regularly chowing down on the BEST sources of B12: Beef liver or clams and mussels?
Most meat-eaters don't like liver. Most meat-eaters simply don't eat enough seafood, or eat it in the form of "fish and chips" which doesn't count as healthy, you know... :-)
Eating salmon/haddock/trout fillets or having liver occasionally (even add little bits of liver to ground beef in tacos, etc.) helps a lot.
"spend hundreds of dollars on supplements" ? Surely you must now acknowledge that there are enough Vegans in the world, many who have been for DECADES, to know that a Vegan diet is completely healthy. I do not take any supplements and my doctor assures me my health is impressive. I am completely healthy. Unlike family members and friends who have high cholesterol and diabetes.
@oopsimavegan it's unlikely you will remain healthy without B12 supplementation - I strongly advise you read Dr. Mcdougall (the vegan author) on B12. Simply google the words 'mcdougall' and 'b12' and it's usually the first link.
Like the LCHF dude I don't dispute veganism is much healthier than the normal western (SAD) diet. However supplementation of anything lacking is important. With B12 though, deficiency can take 3-10 yrs to manifest, so just be careful.
@AlbertaBeefy thanks for that: I'll definitely check out the book. I've researched pretty extensively and there are B12 sources in seaweed and most soy products (both of which i get in buckets) but i'll look into the book. cheers.
@oopsimavegan Actually - check out Jack Norris - he's a vegan dietician with some vids on You tube - he has specifically mentioned in his research that while seaweed like Nori has B12, it's not shown to reduce MMA levels, and therefore seaweed "Cannot be relied upon to prevent B12 deficiency".
Worth looking into. Even with seaweed, etc., there is considerable evidence to show vegans STILL need to supplement B12.
and B12 is not created in meat and animal products. it is created by Bacteria in the soil , air or water. and since meat and milk are pretty much rotten, we get the B12 from there. if we ate organic and natural, we wont be needing B12.
@shahafsagi so how DO you get your B12, and why would McDougall recommend B12 supplementation if you didn't need it? He even has a disclaimer in his book...
@AlbertaBeefy question is: how do YOU get your B12? meat is not a good source of B12. most of the meat eaters have a B12 deficiency. some people who are chronically ill are having trouble absorbing B12. MEAT & MILK causes most of the chronic diseases on this planet. I take supplements, without cyanide, that are culturally grown in labs by natural bacteria, just as they are made in our small intestines. I see no harm in that. it's alot healthier than eating meat&milk, thats for sure.
@shahafsagi Your best sources of B12 are beef liver (one slice has 8 days worth) and clams/mussels (3oz have nearly 6 days worth).
Other good sources include: Salmon, Haddock, Trout, Tuna, Beef, Yogurt, Milk/Cheese*, Eggs, Chicken...
As you can see it's difficult to obtain B12 on a vegan diet.
* Re: Milk/Cheese - I'm not vegan and I personally have issues with milk unless you can get it RAW and even then I don't personally drink it. Research it and decide for yourself, I say.
@shahafsagi and yes, meat IS a good source of B12. Most meat-eaters have a B12 deficiency because they eat too many processed meats, have a lack of intrinsic factor (we're finding more and more people do) or don't eat the right foods that contain it. Some might lack it simply because they're reducing their consumption of red meat due to fear-mongering by the likes of you. :)
And what's your evidence Meat & Milk cause most of the chronic diseases on the planet? There is none.
@shahafsagi howdy. I eat salmon steaks once a week. I also eat an 8oz well-marbled steak once a week. In addition I take a daily men's multivitamin which has some B12 in it (even though I've never had a B12 deficiency in any of my labs). To be honest, I take the vitamin mostly for it's extra "D" - in Canada we don't get enough sunshine, but I doubt the extra other things hurts me.
Also, I see no harm in any natural supplementation either.
@AlbertaBeefy I am against Multi-vitamins. it's very synthetic and un-natural, can cause cancer and other side-effects. I advice you to eat super foods (such as sea-weeds - which contain natural vitamin D), and mushrooms. not only the D content, but the entire vitamin tablet, from A to K, including all of the minerals and essential amino acids, and fatty acids.
multi vitamin is un-matchable with Spirulina powder or raw cacao beans ;)
@shahafsagi You seem to be well educated about nutrition and understand what today, is common knowledge among OUR medical community, yet you waste energy trying to educate an evident troll named beefy?
"Veganism is a healthy option". ADA(American Dietetic Association), AAP(American Academy of Pediatrics), WHO(World Health Organization), CDA(Canadian Dietetic Association), PCRM(Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine), and countless other reputable professionals agree. Or you can accept what this youtuber states.
@truth2748 None of those recommend a vegan diet OVER a healthy diet including meat....
EXCEPT the pcrm which is a vegan-propaganda agency. Less than 8% of their members are even physicians, roflmao. They're funded by PETA as well as vegan members. They exist solely to promote veganism and try to give some legitimacy to Dr. Barnard, Esselstyn, etc.'s books.
Heck,they've been in trouble with the AMA multiple times.
ps: you owe me 9 minutes and fifty eight seconds that all of us will never get back. Good luck with your part time stock job in walmart, professor. And i really love what you've done with your mother's basement
You look unhealthy and out of shape. If you're looking to find the best sources of vitamins, maybe you should look like someone that would actually put them to use. Put down the book, and go outside nerd. I'm vegan and i will out perform you in anything physical. And with all that time you have to read, maybe you should find some literature based on building a personality. Tell me how it goes, I'll be the guy outside eating bananas and getting laid. You do know about sex right? Live life buddy
@0hEmGee I did think what I liked as a vegan. After ill health, I came to my senses and stopped listening to the propaganda. I started listening to my own experience and the studies that I wouldn't look at before.
If you all want to convert people, you need to be honest about your agenda and not mislead people into thinking that veganism is healthy.
Getting rid of neolithic foods is the answer, not getting rid of animal foods.
@joel4360 Sorry, but that comment really shows that you don't know what you are talking about. It's exactly the opposite of what you said. If don't know what to say, don't make uneducated comments just because it is your opinion.
Almost forget to say, that you obviously have no idea of what "probability" means (missed in math classes?). It does not mean that a vegan person will not suffer from any disease e.g. a heart attack.
Omg... i couldn't watch the whole video. You're talking such a "crap" (you used this word to describe something, what people eat since hundreds of years).
I have a suprise for you: poorly planed diets which include animals products increase the risk of deficiency in nutrients as well. And they even increase the probability to come down with cancer, osteoporosis, heart-diseases, gout, rheumatism, ....
NOT ONLY ARE WE NOT SUPPOSED TO EAT ANIMALS WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO EAT ANYTHING COOKED.. OUR PANCREAS IS NEARLY DOUBLE IN SIZE DUE TO THE UNNATURAL FOOD WE PUT IN OUR BODY.. SO IN RETROSPECT YOUR SAYING A BIG SLAB OF FATTY DEAD COW IS WAY BETTER FOR ME THEN A AWESOME VEGGIE BURGER WITH FRIES ?NOT ONLY AM I VEGAN BUT ORGANIC.. FOR THE IDIOT WHO SAID OUR LITTLE STORES WITH ARE UNNATURALLY PROCESSED FOODS MUST HAVE NOT EVER HEARD OF THE POISON HES EATING, HAVE SOME MORE HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP
@EDDIEGPROMOTIONS our fundamental human diet is omnivorous with much of the food being cooked: animal products, starch products, fruits, vegetables, and others.
Your body responds to everything consumed. As you get in tune, you will understand. And life is dynamic, so phases will happen. You can test dietary theory by living out in the wild, you won't do well without eating animals and using fire and cooking. Tools and fire are human evolutionary biological-cultural fundamentals.
First,u said that u are proud US marine and now u are electrician. If u dont kill people directly u it doesent mean u dont help others to kill.... infantry never came to Yugoslavia because u dont have balls u just bomb...and if u dont care much about people talk to animals,coment their videos,share expiriances...im sure u will understand each other...
Oh, nice! Another video about an ignorant person who doesn't have a clue about what he is talking about. Get your sources straight man, and stop with the nonsense.
@petroscephas actually he's right...veganism is not natural at all, that life style depends soley on technology,synthetics and money...b-12 is absolutly essential to humans and is ONLY found in animals & animal by-products..that is an ABSOLUTE FACT...so if there is ever a emergency where you cant go to your little specialty store and buy UNATURALLY fortefied cereals or pills, you cant sustain your veganism.man made science makes veganism possible..& your mantra is all natural living, wutahoot!!
@777yojoe Well, sorry, but no. You DON'T need anything processed. Just fruit, vegetables and grains. Everything nature has and we are supposed and built to eat.
@777yojoe Fortified cereals are just cereals with vitamins added lol Vegan-ism is not a Raw food diet. Some vegans eat soy products that are fortified but still alot better then processed skin and flesh and pus juice. lol Ill take my fortified bran flakes and fortified almond milk any day over that.
According to the "China Study" B12 is made by microorganisms in the soil and in the intestins of living beings like as humans. Plants absorbing it from the soil as well.
, you will benefit from the b12 in the soil.....plus now they have found b12 in aloe and some rasberries...ITS NOT JUST IN ANIMAL PRODUCTS...reasearch b12 and where it comes from before you try to tell others "facts"
But you are correct....MOST vegans are just in bad shape healthwise as most SAD eaters....Low Fat Raw Vegan is the only way to be 100 percent vegan and thrive...you must comsume most of your calories from fresh ripe sweet and non sweet fruit....80/10/10 all the way!!!
No creature is strictly vegan....in nature all consume bugs and such while eating,,,knowingly or not. But it does not mean its a large percentage of their diet. Most chimps do most hunting in dry season......and you better check your facts and see how much of it they actually "eat".
B12 is not just in animal products....it also is created in small amounts wiithin the gut of a healthy animal such as ourselves, and if you eat your produce from organic healthy soil and do not wash or overwash.
I remember watching that show with the chimps. That was actually a battle over territory and dominance in that episode. A monkey randomly walked in on the chimps-group turf and they decided to attack it. The kill and ripping apart wasn't really one of hunting to feed the group but more of a "show of authority". The gnawing to bits was more of an insult. Though, to point out, they did eat bits of it, but chimps are nearly 100% vegetarian, etc, etc.
who cares what other species eat. This is an absolute non-arguement and has nothing to do with the validity of the vegan diet, especially if that diet is done for ethical reasons. I am vegan, and understand that veganisms is not evolutionarily natural as evidenced by the source of B12. The wonders of technology allow me to take a supplement, and boycott the bullshit that is going on in factory farms. End of story. People like you serve ideals, over possibility. Go Vegan.
@GsBBoyDan I'm not convinced Harley even believes everything he says.
I think he's likely a pretty smart guy that PLANS crazy-sounding responses to both 1) elicit an emotional response from people and 2) increase viewership
Let's be honest - he gets TONS of hits from Raw Vegans, 801010'er as well as paleo/primal/low-carb people ...
He says some of the craziest stuff to continue to increase that viewership. Truth be told, he's entertaining to many... (though a nutjob, lol.)
Also, chimps have larger "canines" than humans, yet are primarily vegan - only choosing to eat termites and slugs when they do actually eat non-veg material.
meat causes dorm cancer, and thats a fact. just to look at it total natural (body vs animal): how you kill a cow... how you rip the skin off.. how to bite a raw part of thick meat ( I tried and failed) if you can do this without any tools, then nature wants you to eat it! you know that meat eating animals have very short dorms? ehy?: beacause meat is done very fast. our long dorm makes it turn addle. and thats causes dorm cancer, stinky farts and s on show me how you choke a cow down ;)
There was a story about how a VEGAN OCTOGENARIAN was setting MARATHON records, could you please make sure you actually do research before you make claims? Also comparing a 90 something year old vegan activist to a 85 year old body builder isn't exactly the standard of fairness, is it? I would LOVE to think you are trolling to be this misinformed about nutrition. As well as saying that a POOR vegan diet can cause vitamin deficiency was outrageous, any poor diet can.
Of course a poorly-planned vegan diet is deficient. Any poorly-planned diet is going to be deficient. People need to do their research and choose a diet which is best for them and makes them feel strong and healthy. Passing judgment on each other is ridiculous and doesn't convert anybody.
You can get plenty of riboflavin (B2) from mushrooms, broccoli, asparagus and spinach... none of which are animal products. Calcium is abundant in kale, spinach, broccoli, etc. ...and so on...
If you want to get preachy about nutrition, picket a McDonalds. You only sound like an ignorant, arrogant, completely misguided ass by chastizing people who sustain themselves with vegetables.
The American diet is as unnatural as it gets. So, you can get off your anti-veg soapbox.
through evolution, the human body is designed to consume and process meat...Nature, is about balance...why should we not eat a balanced diet? For ALL of you self righteous vegans...spend less time reading food labels and read more scientific data...chimps,hunt and eat monkeys as a protein source.In order to be balanced, we must eat a balance of grains,veges,and meat. So, drink a little, toke a little, take your vitamins, and eat a well balance diet...it's all about moderation.
Another thing, if you want to eat meat try to buy some animal that have it´s blood been dried. Lots of hormones, parasite hide in the animal´s blood. That is one of the reasons why in many cultures when some one hunt they drain animals blood out of it´s boody, first as an offer and a thanks act but most important they knew, in that way, they don´t eat animals fear, or most simple, the hormones that the animal can have. Hormones resist heat and remain on animal a lot of time.
I have never agree with vegan movement. I do not believe than some people should tell others how to eat but rather than that teach how they must behave. It is not true that you can have all nutrients from plant diet. Legumes have all the minerals you mention in lots of quantities. Nowdays almost every food is poison XD, fruits are most transgenic and animal products are horrible, i agree with that. But to be honest animal products, specially milk is so bad for health
@CrimsonEnigma01 Wrong! We have completely mapped the human genmome. We may not know what it all does but since we have the genmoe we can compare it with other animals
I do however agree that vegan diets are BS because they cook all the food thus destroying 90% of the nutrients. So their diet is pretty bad. Vegetables should be eaten raw to preserve nutrients and enzymes. Seventh Day Adventists are actually the oldest surviving group in this world. Most are vegan or raw as per bibles information on eating food.
Again you choose pictures of vegans. Search Mimi Kirk, she is a raw foodist, and well over 70. Raw foodists arent really vegans though i suppose.
of course its natural, its the original diet of genesis. ALL creatures were made to eat plantlife originally. I am not sure whether you are trolling or not with this video. The claims you make are a bit ridiculous. Chimps eating monkeys. Also whoever filmed that video of that monkey being brutalised was a complete pussy and should be shot for not shooting at the attacking chimps.
Also B12, when your body is alkaline, your body produces its own B12. The other things you listed are rife also.
B12 comes from bacteria actually not animals,go dig up a potato, you'll find B12 on them straight out of the ground it's just cleaned before being sold.
oh and for your octogenerian vegans, try the, Caucasians, the Yucatan , the Todas or the Hunzakuts, they live for 90-100 years average, try finding that in entirely meat eating communities (roughly the same climate as inuits which have a lfie expectancy of ~30)
oh and these are people who remain physically active at 100
from 2003 "A new report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences suggests that the common value of >98% similarity of DNA between chimp and humans is incorrect. Roy Britten, author of the study, puts the figure at about 95% when insertions and deletions are included. Importantly, there is much more to these studies than people realize."
Vegans have lower levels of obesity, a reduced risk of cardiovascular disease, lower blood pressure and a lower total mortality rate. Meat & dairy are directly connected to increases in heart disease & cancer respectively. I'm not Vegan, I eat meat & diary, though in lower quantities than the "Western Diet". I am a family physician. My Vegan colleague is huge & one of the healthiest people I know. He has a great life and a wonderful family. He could ruin you with his pinky. Stop stereotyping!
@wormmy1 Organic food, is allways better than any, processed food. Might as well exlude the meat, as we don't need cholesterol, and animal fats, which causes overweight. The people "inventing" this diet, is thinking of making money, not peoples health.
@SurgamRex Can I see some clinical studies that show meat and dairy is the CAUSATION, and not CORRELATION with heart disease and cancer? Western diets are also high in sugar, grains, and vegetable oils. Sure it's not that? Because the more people started eating those, the fatter and unhealthier they got.
@GsBBoyDan You should know vegans can't show those studies... because they don't have any.
Vegans have only their illogical, emotional outbursts. All their "facts" are easily debunked.
Here's the truth: A healthy diet of vegetables, fruit AND meat, with elimination of refined carbs/sugars is healthier than a vegan diet. The facts prove this.
I've seen it pointed out on hundreds of vegan videos, but they ignore proof. Then won't provide their own, because they have none.
@SurgamRex vegans have lower levels of those things compared to standard american dieters.
vegans have higher levels of cancer compared to those eating a healthy diet that includes meat. that's proven repeatedly. They're also deficient in B12, even their revered dr. Mcdougall states that.
Veganism can be healthy if supplemented, but meat (except processed) when raised organically is also part of a healthy diet if you eliminated refined carbs and eat healthy veg and fruit.
I can tell by your presentation that you don't know anything about what you are talking about. Your whole spiel on minerals and nutrients is lacking a lot of important information! Are you a Doctor, a chemist or biologist? The fact that you said that you didn't know how to pronounce riboflavin and then pronounced it correctly confirms that you are not a dietitian or an expert of any kind. Every mineral & nutrient shortage you have mentioned can be solved and improved upon with proper planning.
almost everything now is not natural. some vegans wont even use poop manure for fertilizer.
people argue and ask for proof of a civilization in the past who lived a 100% vegan life and diet. that did not use hide, or honey, bone, fur or feather.
a group of gatherers, who just gather. no insect eating, or even using an old turtle shell.
the people say you can get b12 by not washing your veggies. or eat dirt? or eat the bacterias.
smug bastards, whether anti-vegan or vegan, are insufferable bores. i've followed a vegan diet for seven weeks now - i've lost 10 pounds, my blood pressure has dropped to a healthier range, my resting pulse rate is better & my arthritis isn't bothering me anywhere near as much as it routinely did pre-vegan. Had a doctor's visit with full lab review yesterday - my non-vegan doctor is ecstatic with the across the board improvements in my numbers. Eat what you like - i'm sticking with veganism.
u just said apes are canibals and they eat meat so ur saying its ok to be canibal? lol, our teeth arent ment to eat meat, i dont have 30 so ravor blade teeth... just shut it... being vegitarian makes u live a longer life, provents some cancers, and also eatring meat causes clogging in ur bloodstream
@chaosproduction Where are you getting your #'s? According to Wikipedia, there are 922 million acres of farms in the US. The thing about feed crops vs our crops is that it doesn't matter. Fuel, water, tractors are the same.
"If all the grain currently fed to livestock in the United States were consumed directly by people, the number of people who could be fed would be nearly 800 million"
Google "amount of crops for livestock in the us", third link down.
I don't see how showing pictures of Hitler and associating him with veganism is helping your argument. For every evil vegan there must be 10's of thousands of evil omnivores. Does that mean you're evil? No. Also, showing examples of a few vegans or raw foodists who didn't live as long as you might expect isn't good, either. Lookup Mimi Kirk or Jim Morris for a fair idea.
I know 10-15 vegetarians. I'm kind of at the halfway point, pretty much because i cant afford meat on my measly student wage. The people I know who are completely vegetarian are all pimply and pale. Im unsure whether or not its diet related, or if it comes down to genetics.
Not all Vegans or Vegetarians are self righteous..I can understand why people get annoyed by that. I think this guy obviously has had some bad experiences with the extreme types. Veganism is Not a religion. I don't care what people eat as long as it is not affecting their health. I believe you can be healthy eating meat or a vegan diet. I'm mostly vegan. and I don't push my way of eating on other people..but it has helped my health a lot.
All the vitamins and minerals in which you've listed I can, and have, obtained naturally in my diet. And I do NOT spend hundreds of dollars on supplements. In fact, I spend a few bucks on b12. The rest is in my food I eat.
On top of that, I've not only survived, but thrived on my vegan diet. I feel better, I'm in better shape, and I have more energy.
I'm proud to say I'm a United States Marine, but I'm more proud to say I'm a vegan.
@runtor1988 Yes, is more ethical to kill humans than animals, am i right marine?
I saw your mercy,courage and ethics 1999 in bombing of Yugoslavia so dont you dare to talk about proudnes, you should be ashamed for serving such globalist,colonialist,roobing amd torturing war machine as US army
I'm not commenting to start an argument and I'm not gonna reply back to anything on this, I'm just throwing out two things I fully disagree with:
B12 doesn't come from animals per se. It's produced by bacteria and some algae. The fact is that B12 is present in meat because it's ROTTING. Thus the bacteria that produces B12 is present.
@runtor1988 (continuation) I'm sure I could go on a tangent about other vitamins, but calcium comes naturally from numerous sources. And contrary to popular belief, milk is not a viable source. Not so much that it doesn't contain it (which it does), but more so because from the research I've done, the calcium from cow milk is indigestible in the human body. Ever realize you never see "milk is good for strong bones" anymore? It's 'cause the various milk industries were sued due to false facts.
@runtor1988 (continuation) I'm sure I could go on a tangent about other vitamins, but calcium comes naturally from numerous sources. And contrary to popular belief, milk is not a viable source. Not so much that it doesn't contain it (which it does), but more so because from the research I've done, the calcium from cow milk is indigestible in the human body. Ever realize you never see "milk is good for strong bones" anymore? It's 'cause the various milk industries were sued due to false facts.
Let's send this worthless piece of shit to New Guinea where they practice cannibalism and then let's hear what he thinks about refraining from meat then. Oh wait, he'd be dead. Bummer.Tragic loss. Douchebags like this are living evidence as to why humans are a bad idea. Too bad his mom can't have a retroactive abortion.
Let's send this worthless piece of shit to New Guinea where they practice cannibalism and then let's hear what he thinks about refraining from meat then. Oh wait, he'd be dead. Bummer.Tragic loss. Douchebags like this are living evidence as to why humans are a bad idea. Too bad his mom can't have a retroactive abortion.
the only people who can truly be guilt free are survivalists who live out in the woods off of nuts and berries because animals are killed in the deforestation needed to make farms.and yes meat eaters are responsible for that too because we need to feed cows but thats just like shooting someone in the head and calling someone else a murderer cus they shot 2 people.we are all murderers and the sooner we can except that the better
vegan diet can be healthy. vegetarian can be healthy. and yes even a meat eating diet can be healthy. each diet has its weak points and strengths. that being said, find out what those weaknesses are and suppliment.. and anything in excess in any diet is bad. the main concern with most vegans as is mine, is the immoral treatment of our fellow animal earthlings. for anyone who is interested in a certain diet, do explicit research to see if you have the will to devote yourself to this new life.
@Rezplendence Although a vegetarian diet has some benefits, it is not healthiest overall. For example the lack of many nurtients and supplements such as iron, B12 and Omega 3 fatty acids.
It isn't all good on the enviroment either, water pollution caused by pesticides and fertilizers on crops, buring of agricultural waste, high water usage added to water pollution, pollution from machinery such as tractors and combine harvesters, land desertification, it goes on.
@chaosproduction ...hemp is a dense/excellent source of b12... and pesticides are only used when unnatural plants are being cultivated & wen unnatural techniques are being used... (row crops, inorganic chemicals, etc)
The American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada said in 2003 that properly planned vegan diets were nutritionally adequate for all stages of life, including pregnancy and lactation, and provided health benefits in the treatment and prevention of certain diseases. - Wikipedia
Elva420 1 week ago
@Elva420 THAT'S YOUR SOURCE?! Wikipedia... wow.
toothANDclaw13 16 hours ago
Funny how science, allways proove how vegans and vegetarians are healthier than omnivores. That means you're mistaken, haven't don'e your research, and you're an idiot for trying to justify killing annimals, when we don't need to. Eaven when I was a non veg. I wasn't this big of an asshole.
starfaery 1 week ago
@starfaery No, science doesn't say that. Have you done any research at all yourself or have you just been listening to what PCRM, PETA and the China Study book say?
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starfaery 1 week ago
@wormmy1 Yes it does. Making assumptions about stuff you probably know very little about, for your own little comfortzone to diminnish, is not the best way to go about it. Go to sciencedaily . com, and find out for yourself. Doctors will say the same thing. And then you might wanna look at what
ELVA420 just stated. I don't know wht PCRM is, or condone the dual ways of Peta, Neither have i read "the China study".
starfaery 1 week ago
@starfaery I'm a former vegan so I know first hand. how awful the diet is for people. Any diet that requires supplementation and micromanagement just for some people to be able to live is not optimal nor healthy. Research shows that animal protein is cancer protective and animal fats are the main source of fat soluble vitamins - the ones that reverse heart disease. Are you familiar with hte work of Weston Price? What he found in the 1930's is now being scientifically proven.
wormmy1 1 week ago
@wormmy1 Science also say otherwise. No I haven't heard of Weston Price. Can you give me a source that say non vegan food, does that. It depends what you put in your mouth. You can't just eat junk. And alot don't do their research, before going veg. I'm veg. myself, and has never had any health problems. In fact allmost never get sick, with the flu. I also eat organic only, whenver I can.
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starfaery 4 days ago
@wormmy1 Go to: sciencedaily . com
Search the title:
Vegetarians May Be at Lower Risk of Heart Disease, Diabetes and Stroke
It says the exact opposite thing, you just mentioned.
starfaery 4 days ago
@starfaery Watch my videos. When meat is the ONLY thing people change, their risk of heart disease goes up, not down. Asian Indians are largely vegetarian and get heart disease and diabetes 10 years earlier than SAD eaters.
wormmy1 4 days ago
There are plenty of sources of all the things you claim vegans are deficient in. Flax Seed has Omega 6. Hemp has Omega 3. Walnuts? The only thing I supplement for is B12. But you can get that in Brewers yeast or tablets. All the benefits I get from a vegan diet and the only thing I have to supplement is B12. Meat has so many negatives such as Cholesterol, saturated fats, hormones, antibiotics and the obvious suffering too. Even organic meats die the same way. I'll stick with a vegan diet thanks.
ShelterHelperDogs 2 weeks ago
You have no idea what you're talking about, little buddy. All you're doing is trying to justify your own cruel nature.
mzunick1 2 weeks ago
@Brandic2020 These nutrients aren't exclusive to fortified foods and animal products.
superevan07 2 weeks ago
so, you still thinking the zone diet is the UNIQUE way to be healthy? It tried it 2 years ago 1 year long and I had nevertheless a b12 deficiency...
AtziriKaiser 3 weeks ago
If u dont think veganism is our past, i think it is our future cause ALL the nutriments of this "vegan deficiencies" -wich meat eaters have too-- can be synthesized and replace the animal sources (just if the people are too lazy to search NEW info and alternatives)
AtziriKaiser 3 weeks ago
search "vegan warriors" and the freelee´s video "My AMAZING 40lb WEIGHT LOSS on Raw Food. Before & Afters" (before u say something look all her videos, including those about b12 and other deficiencies)
AtziriKaiser 3 weeks ago
I suggest everyone here including meat-eaters, vegetarians and vegans to check out "The Vegetarian Asshole Test" by George Ouzounian a.k.a. Maddox.
Brandic2020 3 weeks ago
i like this guy. also like how he taunted the vegens by eating meat HAHAHAAAAAA classic
bioniclefan1999 3 weeks ago
you're full of shit. go and get a better education moron.
fatpizzaman 3 weeks ago
@fatpizzaman he has glasses, so he obviously is smart.
bioniclefan1999 3 weeks ago
@fatpizzaman You're just an angry vegan that hates hearing bad news about your bad habits. Get over it.
Brandic2020 3 weeks ago
Almost every single argument you've made in this video is invalid. Vegans can very easily acquire all of the body's essential nutrients through both fortified and natural plant-based foods. That includes Omega-3 DHA, vitamin B12; every vegan knows this. Then again, this video IS about 5 years old, so you must've learned something about it since then.
superevan07 4 weeks ago
@superevan07 The fact that vegans can get certain nutrients only from eating fortified crap and supplements proves that veganism is not natural. Fortification is very synthetic and artificial. Sure you can get all the nutrients like this, but that goes to show how it isn't natural
Brandic2020 3 weeks ago
you just tell us 3 examples of asocial vegetarians. I give you another examples:
Leonardo Da Vinci, Franz Kafka, Isaac Newton, Platón, Rousseau, Bernard Shaw, Sócrates, Tolstoy, Voltaire, Pitágoras, Albert Einstein, Schopenhauer...
AtziriKaiser 1 month ago
I neather eat Meat cause I´d never liked it. I respect the people who does. I just try not to contribute with the cruelty behind the biggest companies of food. They are neather healthy and natural. They make you sick.
And no- vegetarian/vegan nutritionists, like Barry Sears recomend you not to eat meat in excess! The shit meat industry grew up in that way because of the people who eat meat in excess, who are neather healthy.
AtziriKaiser 1 month ago
Quantic Physics is a philosophy and also a science. It gives you facts and is based on reason. It demostrates that faith and facts are conected. You are just one more materialist. Being fanatic christian and an atheist is exactly the same thing. We all hace the right to explore and discover new ways of living. I say that, and im not a vegan.
AtziriKaiser 1 month ago
@AtziriKaiser Quantic Physics is NOT phiosphy.
robertangel30 3 weeks ago
@robertangel30
it is also...
AtziriKaiser 3 weeks ago
Google 'Vegan Athletes" and "Vegan Bodybuilders" to see how ridiculous this guy's claims are. This guy obviously left pictures of guys like Mac Danzig and Noah "The Vegan Tank" Hannibal out of this video as it would not support his biased opinion.
I've been vegan for 6 years and vegetarian for 10 before that and at 39 years young I am feeling great. I currently workout six days a week, three of which are with a personal trainer doing functional fitness workouts and strength training.
myquestforhealth 1 month ago
@myquestforhealth yes search vegan athletes an vegasn bodybuilders,
NO CLUE AGAIN. How many?
robertangel30 3 weeks ago
@robertangel30
Just do a search. As vegans are a small part of the population, there will obviously be less but there are plenty out there. Guys like Mike Mahler, Brendan Brasier, Jon Hinds, Edward Goins, Scott Jurek, etc. are all great examples.
Peace
myquestforhealth 3 weeks ago
@myquestforhealth In case you haven't noticed, vegan bodybuilders or athletes have either became vegan after they've become strong, or they take many different supplements. Even they know that without man-made vitamins, they'd be as weak as a chicken.
Also, you're lying when you say that you feel great. You're just denying the fact that you feel terrible from your dangerous and bland cow diet.
Pile up the bacon strips!
Brandic2020 3 weeks ago
@Brandic2020
Most athletes and bodybuilders take vitamins and supplements whether they are vegan or not. And nope, not lying, I really do feel great!
Peace
myquestforhealth 3 weeks ago
what abut shaolins? jeje
augustovera85 1 month ago
@augustovera85 You mean those fucking China chinks with small penises that love eating lead?
Brandic2020 3 weeks ago
We're not living in the cavemendays anymore, our body's have evolved to a more plant based diet. b12 was normally found on unprocessed vegetables before conventional food. Calcium can be foound in sesami seeds. I think you've been misinformed, if not on all of your points.,,, For you to try and justify and kill animals ethical or not, makes you a bigtime moron.
starfaery 1 month ago
Vitamin B-12 has never been so delicious. I've got a nice beef stew I'm gonna make, and it has a nice full flavor due to animal fat that's melted into it.
Antiks72 1 month ago
LOL @ Westen A Price Foundation as a source. Lightweight.
LloydChristmas777 1 month ago
Gorillas eat meat. Ive seen it!
clergame 1 month ago
In addition to possibly having a lack of intrinsic factor, how many meat-eaters do you see regularly chowing down on the BEST sources of B12: Beef liver or clams and mussels?
Most meat-eaters don't like liver. Most meat-eaters simply don't eat enough seafood, or eat it in the form of "fish and chips" which doesn't count as healthy, you know... :-)
Eating salmon/haddock/trout fillets or having liver occasionally (even add little bits of liver to ground beef in tacos, etc.) helps a lot.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
"spend hundreds of dollars on supplements" ? Surely you must now acknowledge that there are enough Vegans in the world, many who have been for DECADES, to know that a Vegan diet is completely healthy. I do not take any supplements and my doctor assures me my health is impressive. I am completely healthy. Unlike family members and friends who have high cholesterol and diabetes.
oopsimavegan 1 month ago
@oopsimavegan it's unlikely you will remain healthy without B12 supplementation - I strongly advise you read Dr. Mcdougall (the vegan author) on B12. Simply google the words 'mcdougall' and 'b12' and it's usually the first link.
Like the LCHF dude I don't dispute veganism is much healthier than the normal western (SAD) diet. However supplementation of anything lacking is important. With B12 though, deficiency can take 3-10 yrs to manifest, so just be careful.
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
@AlbertaBeefy thanks for that: I'll definitely check out the book. I've researched pretty extensively and there are B12 sources in seaweed and most soy products (both of which i get in buckets) but i'll look into the book. cheers.
oopsimavegan 1 month ago
@oopsimavegan Actually - check out Jack Norris - he's a vegan dietician with some vids on You tube - he has specifically mentioned in his research that while seaweed like Nori has B12, it's not shown to reduce MMA levels, and therefore seaweed "Cannot be relied upon to prevent B12 deficiency".
Worth looking into. Even with seaweed, etc., there is considerable evidence to show vegans STILL need to supplement B12.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
This guy is afraid to change his diet.....
freein2339 1 month ago
I am a vegan and you are just saying bullshit to get views.
I am perfectly healthy, hardly ever get sick, and I don't need to take supplements.
just leave us vegans alone.
WRKAQARG 1 month ago
Lol you don't look too healthy yourself. You're not going to die on us are you?
lastplacewin 1 month ago
and B12 is not created in meat and animal products. it is created by Bacteria in the soil , air or water. and since meat and milk are pretty much rotten, we get the B12 from there. if we ate organic and natural, we wont be needing B12.
shahafsagi 1 month ago
@shahafsagi so how DO you get your B12, and why would McDougall recommend B12 supplementation if you didn't need it? He even has a disclaimer in his book...
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
@AlbertaBeefy question is: how do YOU get your B12? meat is not a good source of B12. most of the meat eaters have a B12 deficiency. some people who are chronically ill are having trouble absorbing B12. MEAT & MILK causes most of the chronic diseases on this planet. I take supplements, without cyanide, that are culturally grown in labs by natural bacteria, just as they are made in our small intestines. I see no harm in that. it's alot healthier than eating meat&milk, thats for sure.
shahafsagi 1 month ago
@shahafsagi Your best sources of B12 are beef liver (one slice has 8 days worth) and clams/mussels (3oz have nearly 6 days worth).
Other good sources include: Salmon, Haddock, Trout, Tuna, Beef, Yogurt, Milk/Cheese*, Eggs, Chicken...
As you can see it's difficult to obtain B12 on a vegan diet.
* Re: Milk/Cheese - I'm not vegan and I personally have issues with milk unless you can get it RAW and even then I don't personally drink it. Research it and decide for yourself, I say.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@shahafsagi and yes, meat IS a good source of B12. Most meat-eaters have a B12 deficiency because they eat too many processed meats, have a lack of intrinsic factor (we're finding more and more people do) or don't eat the right foods that contain it. Some might lack it simply because they're reducing their consumption of red meat due to fear-mongering by the likes of you. :)
And what's your evidence Meat & Milk cause most of the chronic diseases on the planet? There is none.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@shahafsagi howdy. I eat salmon steaks once a week. I also eat an 8oz well-marbled steak once a week. In addition I take a daily men's multivitamin which has some B12 in it (even though I've never had a B12 deficiency in any of my labs). To be honest, I take the vitamin mostly for it's extra "D" - in Canada we don't get enough sunshine, but I doubt the extra other things hurts me.
Also, I see no harm in any natural supplementation either.
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
@AlbertaBeefy I am against Multi-vitamins. it's very synthetic and un-natural, can cause cancer and other side-effects. I advice you to eat super foods (such as sea-weeds - which contain natural vitamin D), and mushrooms. not only the D content, but the entire vitamin tablet, from A to K, including all of the minerals and essential amino acids, and fatty acids.
multi vitamin is un-matchable with Spirulina powder or raw cacao beans ;)
shahafsagi 1 month ago
@shahafsagi You seem to be well educated about nutrition and understand what today, is common knowledge among OUR medical community, yet you waste energy trying to educate an evident troll named beefy?
truth2748 1 month ago
@shahafsagi
Hey thanks for that info lol
XXZtormentorZXX 1 month ago
you forgot Bonobo ape, which this is the closest to homo-sapiens. learn your facts.
shahafsagi 1 month ago
@shahafsagi 99.4% of our DNA goes to bonobo, not chimps.
shahafsagi 1 month ago
"Veganism is a healthy option". ADA(American Dietetic Association), AAP(American Academy of Pediatrics), WHO(World Health Organization), CDA(Canadian Dietetic Association), PCRM(Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine), and countless other reputable professionals agree. Or you can accept what this youtuber states.
truth2748 1 month ago
@truth2748 None of those recommend a vegan diet OVER a healthy diet including meat....
EXCEPT the pcrm which is a vegan-propaganda agency. Less than 8% of their members are even physicians, roflmao. They're funded by PETA as well as vegan members. They exist solely to promote veganism and try to give some legitimacy to Dr. Barnard, Esselstyn, etc.'s books.
Heck,they've been in trouble with the AMA multiple times.
That's proof, roflmao.
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
ps: you owe me 9 minutes and fifty eight seconds that all of us will never get back. Good luck with your part time stock job in walmart, professor. And i really love what you've done with your mother's basement
Taizembe 2 months ago
You look unhealthy and out of shape. If you're looking to find the best sources of vitamins, maybe you should look like someone that would actually put them to use. Put down the book, and go outside nerd. I'm vegan and i will out perform you in anything physical. And with all that time you have to read, maybe you should find some literature based on building a personality. Tell me how it goes, I'll be the guy outside eating bananas and getting laid. You do know about sex right? Live life buddy
Taizembe 2 months ago
If we always would go after the concept of living natural, we would still live in caves.
hejfiskhej 2 months ago
Hey fucktard, the only reason animal FLESH has B-12 is because animals acquire it from the FEED or SOIL they eat... you lose.
0hEmGee 2 months ago
@0hEmGee Wong. Animals make B-12 in their guts for us to consume. Vegans have to literally eat shit to get B-12.
wormmy1 2 months ago
@wormmy1 Sure, think what you'd like, and keep eating flesh all you want. :D nomnom tofu<3
0hEmGee 2 months ago
@0hEmGee I did think what I liked as a vegan. After ill health, I came to my senses and stopped listening to the propaganda. I started listening to my own experience and the studies that I wouldn't look at before.
If you all want to convert people, you need to be honest about your agenda and not mislead people into thinking that veganism is healthy.
Getting rid of neolithic foods is the answer, not getting rid of animal foods.
wormmy1 2 months ago
@joel4360 Sorry, but that comment really shows that you don't know what you are talking about. It's exactly the opposite of what you said. If don't know what to say, don't make uneducated comments just because it is your opinion.
petroscephas 2 months ago
Almost forget to say, that you obviously have no idea of what "probability" means (missed in math classes?). It does not mean that a vegan person will not suffer from any disease e.g. a heart attack.
P.S.: Take a look at Mimi Kirk. ;)
Lis4chen 2 months ago
Omg... i couldn't watch the whole video. You're talking such a "crap" (you used this word to describe something, what people eat since hundreds of years).
I have a suprise for you: poorly planed diets which include animals products increase the risk of deficiency in nutrients as well. And they even increase the probability to come down with cancer, osteoporosis, heart-diseases, gout, rheumatism, ....
Lis4chen 2 months ago
4/10 for a second you had me going there, ignorant troll is ignorant about veganism and nutrition.
ValidPlacebo 2 months ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha...k good argument
powerhamstertreefish 2 months ago
NOT ONLY ARE WE NOT SUPPOSED TO EAT ANIMALS WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO EAT ANYTHING COOKED.. OUR PANCREAS IS NEARLY DOUBLE IN SIZE DUE TO THE UNNATURAL FOOD WE PUT IN OUR BODY.. SO IN RETROSPECT YOUR SAYING A BIG SLAB OF FATTY DEAD COW IS WAY BETTER FOR ME THEN A AWESOME VEGGIE BURGER WITH FRIES ?NOT ONLY AM I VEGAN BUT ORGANIC.. FOR THE IDIOT WHO SAID OUR LITTLE STORES WITH ARE UNNATURALLY PROCESSED FOODS MUST HAVE NOT EVER HEARD OF THE POISON HES EATING, HAVE SOME MORE HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP
EDDIEGPROMOTIONS 2 months ago
@EDDIEGPROMOTIONS haha, not supposed to eat anything cooked, man, what a riot.
bigmeknurgle 2 months ago
@EDDIEGPROMOTIONS our fundamental human diet is omnivorous with much of the food being cooked: animal products, starch products, fruits, vegetables, and others.
Your body responds to everything consumed. As you get in tune, you will understand. And life is dynamic, so phases will happen. You can test dietary theory by living out in the wild, you won't do well without eating animals and using fire and cooking. Tools and fire are human evolutionary biological-cultural fundamentals.
ToolsnFire 2 months ago
First,u said that u are proud US marine and now u are electrician. If u dont kill people directly u it doesent mean u dont help others to kill.... infantry never came to Yugoslavia because u dont have balls u just bomb...and if u dont care much about people talk to animals,coment their videos,share expiriances...im sure u will understand each other...
Andonovmil 2 months ago
GO MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
777yojoe 2 months ago
Oh, nice! Another video about an ignorant person who doesn't have a clue about what he is talking about. Get your sources straight man, and stop with the nonsense.
petroscephas 2 months ago
@petroscephas actually he's right...veganism is not natural at all, that life style depends soley on technology,synthetics and money...b-12 is absolutly essential to humans and is ONLY found in animals & animal by-products..that is an ABSOLUTE FACT...so if there is ever a emergency where you cant go to your little specialty store and buy UNATURALLY fortefied cereals or pills, you cant sustain your veganism.man made science makes veganism possible..& your mantra is all natural living, wutahoot!!
777yojoe 2 months ago
@777yojoe Well, sorry, but no. You DON'T need anything processed. Just fruit, vegetables and grains. Everything nature has and we are supposed and built to eat.
petroscephas 2 months ago
@777yojoe Fortified cereals are just cereals with vitamins added lol Vegan-ism is not a Raw food diet. Some vegans eat soy products that are fortified but still alot better then processed skin and flesh and pus juice. lol Ill take my fortified bran flakes and fortified almond milk any day over that.
ThePentgirl578 2 months ago
Hahaha this video is too ridiculous.
ruthieeej 2 months ago
this entire argument is fucken retarded. end. of. story.
Z3phr 2 months ago 4
@Z3phr The entire argument was based on facts from actual scientific studies. You're the retarded one.
Brandic2020 3 weeks ago
According to the "China Study" B12 is made by microorganisms in the soil and in the intestins of living beings like as humans. Plants absorbing it from the soil as well.
Repulver 2 months ago
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natharaja 2 months ago
this guy is either really stupid or trolling for reactions..
ELseizure 2 months ago
, you will benefit from the b12 in the soil.....plus now they have found b12 in aloe and some rasberries...ITS NOT JUST IN ANIMAL PRODUCTS...reasearch b12 and where it comes from before you try to tell others "facts"
But you are correct....MOST vegans are just in bad shape healthwise as most SAD eaters....Low Fat Raw Vegan is the only way to be 100 percent vegan and thrive...you must comsume most of your calories from fresh ripe sweet and non sweet fruit....80/10/10 all the way!!!
yahosna40x 2 months ago
No creature is strictly vegan....in nature all consume bugs and such while eating,,,knowingly or not. But it does not mean its a large percentage of their diet. Most chimps do most hunting in dry season......and you better check your facts and see how much of it they actually "eat".
B12 is not just in animal products....it also is created in small amounts wiithin the gut of a healthy animal such as ourselves, and if you eat your produce from organic healthy soil and do not wash or overwash.
yahosna40x 2 months ago
I remember watching that show with the chimps. That was actually a battle over territory and dominance in that episode. A monkey randomly walked in on the chimps-group turf and they decided to attack it. The kill and ripping apart wasn't really one of hunting to feed the group but more of a "show of authority". The gnawing to bits was more of an insult. Though, to point out, they did eat bits of it, but chimps are nearly 100% vegetarian, etc, etc.
Nibbit 2 months ago
who cares what other species eat. This is an absolute non-arguement and has nothing to do with the validity of the vegan diet, especially if that diet is done for ethical reasons. I am vegan, and understand that veganisms is not evolutionarily natural as evidenced by the source of B12. The wonders of technology allow me to take a supplement, and boycott the bullshit that is going on in factory farms. End of story. People like you serve ideals, over possibility. Go Vegan.
SuperAnimalDrummer 2 months ago 2
I want so this dude go rip apart a live animal and then tell us a vegan diet is unnatural
LMFAO!
Hey bro, chimps eat their own shit, they eat each others babies and they cant fucken run.
Lets eat like chimps though?
durianriders 2 months ago 7
@durianriders Hahaha I was going to say exactly what you said.
GeneralSquirtle 2 months ago
@durianriders That's the stupidest logic ever. Guess what, cows eat grass, ad they're dumb as shit and can't fucken run.
GsBBoyDan 1 month ago
@GsBBoyDan I'm not convinced Harley even believes everything he says.
I think he's likely a pretty smart guy that PLANS crazy-sounding responses to both 1) elicit an emotional response from people and 2) increase viewership
Let's be honest - he gets TONS of hits from Raw Vegans, 801010'er as well as paleo/primal/low-carb people ...
He says some of the craziest stuff to continue to increase that viewership. Truth be told, he's entertaining to many... (though a nutjob, lol.)
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
@durianriders "I want so this dude..."
What are you trying to say? Looks like a major grammatical error due to your DHA and EPA deficient brain.
Brandic2020 1 month ago
@durianriders
Also, chimps have larger "canines" than humans, yet are primarily vegan - only choosing to eat termites and slugs when they do actually eat non-veg material.
lastplacewin 1 month ago
picball39 3 months ago
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@picball39 Are meat eaters afraid of.....? Check out this video and find out! /watch?v=QdDVe0nZqNY
haridham 3 months ago
@picball39 .....your being disgusts me.
SpencerSwanson 2 months ago
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@SpencerSwanson now that makes sense!
picball39 2 months ago
There was a story about how a VEGAN OCTOGENARIAN was setting MARATHON records, could you please make sure you actually do research before you make claims? Also comparing a 90 something year old vegan activist to a 85 year old body builder isn't exactly the standard of fairness, is it? I would LOVE to think you are trolling to be this misinformed about nutrition. As well as saying that a POOR vegan diet can cause vitamin deficiency was outrageous, any poor diet can.
jivetime2 3 months ago
@jivetime2 Great point. Veganism is great. Check out this video. Is eating meat primitive? /watch?v=aS5CpSXDULM
haridham 3 months ago
troll.
Banishko 3 months ago
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haridham 3 months ago
Of course a poorly-planned vegan diet is deficient. Any poorly-planned diet is going to be deficient. People need to do their research and choose a diet which is best for them and makes them feel strong and healthy. Passing judgment on each other is ridiculous and doesn't convert anybody.
isabelzavoranu 3 months ago
Oh, and by the way... if you want to find a group of octogenarian vegans, try a buddhist monestary. I'll bet there are some of them there.
Thunder029 3 months ago
You can get plenty of riboflavin (B2) from mushrooms, broccoli, asparagus and spinach... none of which are animal products. Calcium is abundant in kale, spinach, broccoli, etc. ...and so on...
If you want to get preachy about nutrition, picket a McDonalds. You only sound like an ignorant, arrogant, completely misguided ass by chastizing people who sustain themselves with vegetables.
The American diet is as unnatural as it gets. So, you can get off your anti-veg soapbox.
Thunder029 3 months ago
through evolution, the human body is designed to consume and process meat...Nature, is about balance...why should we not eat a balanced diet? For ALL of you self righteous vegans...spend less time reading food labels and read more scientific data...chimps,hunt and eat monkeys as a protein source.In order to be balanced, we must eat a balance of grains,veges,and meat. So, drink a little, toke a little, take your vitamins, and eat a well balance diet...it's all about moderation.
slammtom 3 months ago
sorry for my english, it is not my first languague xD
irlumir 4 months ago
Another thing, if you want to eat meat try to buy some animal that have it´s blood been dried. Lots of hormones, parasite hide in the animal´s blood. That is one of the reasons why in many cultures when some one hunt they drain animals blood out of it´s boody, first as an offer and a thanks act but most important they knew, in that way, they don´t eat animals fear, or most simple, the hormones that the animal can have. Hormones resist heat and remain on animal a lot of time.
irlumir 4 months ago
I have never agree with vegan movement. I do not believe than some people should tell others how to eat but rather than that teach how they must behave. It is not true that you can have all nutrients from plant diet. Legumes have all the minerals you mention in lots of quantities. Nowdays almost every food is poison XD, fruits are most transgenic and animal products are horrible, i agree with that. But to be honest animal products, specially milk is so bad for health
irlumir 4 months ago
@CrimsonEnigma01 Wrong! We have completely mapped the human genmome. We may not know what it all does but since we have the genmoe we can compare it with other animals
Tensai1982 4 months ago
I do however agree that vegan diets are BS because they cook all the food thus destroying 90% of the nutrients. So their diet is pretty bad. Vegetables should be eaten raw to preserve nutrients and enzymes. Seventh Day Adventists are actually the oldest surviving group in this world. Most are vegan or raw as per bibles information on eating food.
Again you choose pictures of vegans. Search Mimi Kirk, she is a raw foodist, and well over 70. Raw foodists arent really vegans though i suppose.
louphebe 4 months ago
of course its natural, its the original diet of genesis. ALL creatures were made to eat plantlife originally. I am not sure whether you are trolling or not with this video. The claims you make are a bit ridiculous. Chimps eating monkeys. Also whoever filmed that video of that monkey being brutalised was a complete pussy and should be shot for not shooting at the attacking chimps.
Also B12, when your body is alkaline, your body produces its own B12. The other things you listed are rife also.
louphebe 4 months ago
Oh and try saying vegetarians are unhealthy and unfit to these people, you couldn't keep up with ANY of these
Dave Scott 2.4-mile ocean swim, a 112-mile cycle, and then a 26.2-mile run.
Sixto Linares. broke the world record for the one-day triathlon by swimming 4.8 miles, cycling 185 miles, and then running 52.4 miles.
Edwin Moses. dominated the 400-meter hurdles and went eight years without losing a race,
Paavo Nurmi, set twenty world records in distance running, and won nine Olympic medals
crypticspoon93 4 months ago
B12 comes from bacteria actually not animals,go dig up a potato, you'll find B12 on them straight out of the ground it's just cleaned before being sold.
oh and for your octogenerian vegans, try the, Caucasians, the Yucatan , the Todas or the Hunzakuts, they live for 90-100 years average, try finding that in entirely meat eating communities (roughly the same climate as inuits which have a lfie expectancy of ~30)
oh and these are people who remain physically active at 100
your move.
crypticspoon93 4 months ago
@CrimsonEnigma01 What rock did you crawl out from under?
from 2003 "A new report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences suggests that the common value of >98% similarity of DNA between chimp and humans is incorrect. Roy Britten, author of the study, puts the figure at about 95% when insertions and deletions are included. Importantly, there is much more to these studies than people realize."
robertangel30 4 months ago
Gosh what a idiot
onoix 4 months ago
Vegans have lower levels of obesity, a reduced risk of cardiovascular disease, lower blood pressure and a lower total mortality rate. Meat & dairy are directly connected to increases in heart disease & cancer respectively. I'm not Vegan, I eat meat & diary, though in lower quantities than the "Western Diet". I am a family physician. My Vegan colleague is huge & one of the healthiest people I know. He has a great life and a wonderful family. He could ruin you with his pinky. Stop stereotyping!
SurgamRex 4 months ago 17
@SurgamRex
whats your Opinion of this channel ,
DURIAN RIDERS
AnatomicalALIGNMENT 3 months ago
@SurgamRex Paleo diets yield even better results without all the deficiencies. You should give it a try.
wormmy1 2 months ago 4
@wormmy1 Organic food, is allways better than any, processed food. Might as well exlude the meat, as we don't need cholesterol, and animal fats, which causes overweight. The people "inventing" this diet, is thinking of making money, not peoples health.
starfaery 4 days ago
@SurgamRex Can I see some clinical studies that show meat and dairy is the CAUSATION, and not CORRELATION with heart disease and cancer? Western diets are also high in sugar, grains, and vegetable oils. Sure it's not that? Because the more people started eating those, the fatter and unhealthier they got.
GsBBoyDan 2 months ago
@GsBBoyDan You should know vegans can't show those studies... because they don't have any.
Vegans have only their illogical, emotional outbursts. All their "facts" are easily debunked.
Here's the truth: A healthy diet of vegetables, fruit AND meat, with elimination of refined carbs/sugars is healthier than a vegan diet. The facts prove this.
I've seen it pointed out on hundreds of vegan videos, but they ignore proof. Then won't provide their own, because they have none.
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
@SurgamRex vegans have lower levels of those things compared to standard american dieters.
vegans have higher levels of cancer compared to those eating a healthy diet that includes meat. that's proven repeatedly. They're also deficient in B12, even their revered dr. Mcdougall states that.
Veganism can be healthy if supplemented, but meat (except processed) when raised organically is also part of a healthy diet if you eliminated refined carbs and eat healthy veg and fruit.
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
I can tell by your presentation that you don't know anything about what you are talking about. Your whole spiel on minerals and nutrients is lacking a lot of important information! Are you a Doctor, a chemist or biologist? The fact that you said that you didn't know how to pronounce riboflavin and then pronounced it correctly confirms that you are not a dietitian or an expert of any kind. Every mineral & nutrient shortage you have mentioned can be solved and improved upon with proper planning.
SurgamRex 4 months ago
Don't knock it until you try it..... go go go raw
1055Lisa 4 months ago
almost everything now is not natural. some vegans wont even use poop manure for fertilizer.
people argue and ask for proof of a civilization in the past who lived a 100% vegan life and diet. that did not use hide, or honey, bone, fur or feather.
a group of gatherers, who just gather. no insect eating, or even using an old turtle shell.
the people say you can get b12 by not washing your veggies. or eat dirt? or eat the bacterias.
kuwaizair 4 months ago
smug bastards, whether anti-vegan or vegan, are insufferable bores. i've followed a vegan diet for seven weeks now - i've lost 10 pounds, my blood pressure has dropped to a healthier range, my resting pulse rate is better & my arthritis isn't bothering me anywhere near as much as it routinely did pre-vegan. Had a doctor's visit with full lab review yesterday - my non-vegan doctor is ecstatic with the across the board improvements in my numbers. Eat what you like - i'm sticking with veganism.
nmwolfboy 4 months ago
@nmwolfboy I weigh 95 pounds. should I go vegan?
kuwaizair 4 months ago
Your suck a wanker...Look up your information that you are talking about, and then tell me that vegans are unhealthy.
woo0041 4 months ago
u just said apes are canibals and they eat meat so ur saying its ok to be canibal? lol, our teeth arent ment to eat meat, i dont have 30 so ravor blade teeth... just shut it... being vegitarian makes u live a longer life, provents some cancers, and also eatring meat causes clogging in ur bloodstream
OVER9000NUKES 4 months ago
Vegans look healthy. YOU do not ! stop eating those chicken gristles !
qwondoflex 5 months ago
if you love meat so much why wont you kill the animal by yourself??
hypocrisy
ichai1 5 months ago
@chaosproduction Where are you getting your #'s? According to Wikipedia, there are 922 million acres of farms in the US. The thing about feed crops vs our crops is that it doesn't matter. Fuel, water, tractors are the same.
"If all the grain currently fed to livestock in the United States were consumed directly by people, the number of people who could be fed would be nearly 800 million"
Google "amount of crops for livestock in the us", third link down.
eleqtriq 5 months ago
I don't see how showing pictures of Hitler and associating him with veganism is helping your argument. For every evil vegan there must be 10's of thousands of evil omnivores. Does that mean you're evil? No. Also, showing examples of a few vegans or raw foodists who didn't live as long as you might expect isn't good, either. Lookup Mimi Kirk or Jim Morris for a fair idea.
eleqtriq 5 months ago
I know 10-15 vegetarians. I'm kind of at the halfway point, pretty much because i cant afford meat on my measly student wage. The people I know who are completely vegetarian are all pimply and pale. Im unsure whether or not its diet related, or if it comes down to genetics.
morph611 5 months ago
Not all Vegans or Vegetarians are self righteous..I can understand why people get annoyed by that. I think this guy obviously has had some bad experiences with the extreme types. Veganism is Not a religion. I don't care what people eat as long as it is not affecting their health. I believe you can be healthy eating meat or a vegan diet. I'm mostly vegan. and I don't push my way of eating on other people..but it has helped my health a lot.
camjev08 5 months ago
america didnt "invent" veganism
Wipeoutzone1 5 months ago
Lets see you go on a hunting expedition, with only your bare hands and instincts.
Sarajls1 5 months ago
@Sarajls1 I bet I could do it.
madcat789 5 months ago
One last thing.
All the vitamins and minerals in which you've listed I can, and have, obtained naturally in my diet. And I do NOT spend hundreds of dollars on supplements. In fact, I spend a few bucks on b12. The rest is in my food I eat.
On top of that, I've not only survived, but thrived on my vegan diet. I feel better, I'm in better shape, and I have more energy.
I'm proud to say I'm a United States Marine, but I'm more proud to say I'm a vegan.
runtor1988 5 months ago 26
@runtor1988
Good for you for being vegan, you're more proud of how you eat MORE than how you served your country?
epicseizurenow 3 months ago
@epicseizurenow Is eating meat primitive? /watch?v=aS5CpSXDULM
haridham 3 months ago
@runtor1988 Yes, is more ethical to kill humans than animals, am i right marine?
I saw your mercy,courage and ethics 1999 in bombing of Yugoslavia so dont you dare to talk about proudnes, you should be ashamed for serving such globalist,colonialist,roobing amd torturing war machine as US army
Andonovmil 2 months ago
@Andonovmil
Three things:
1). I joined for college benefits. I'm not infantry, I'm an electrician. I have not and never will kill anyone.
2). I don't give a crap about humans so much as I do about animals.
3). In 1999 I was eleven years old, so I'm pretty sure I wasn't doing any bombing of any sorts at that time.
runtor1988 2 months ago
@Andonovmil
By the way, I go by Ryan, not marine. Let's not turn this into some political debate, because personally, I don't give a hoot about it.
runtor1988 2 months ago
I'm not commenting to start an argument and I'm not gonna reply back to anything on this, I'm just throwing out two things I fully disagree with:
B12 doesn't come from animals per se. It's produced by bacteria and some algae. The fact is that B12 is present in meat because it's ROTTING. Thus the bacteria that produces B12 is present.
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runtor1988 5 months ago
@runtor1988 (continuation) I'm sure I could go on a tangent about other vitamins, but calcium comes naturally from numerous sources. And contrary to popular belief, milk is not a viable source. Not so much that it doesn't contain it (which it does), but more so because from the research I've done, the calcium from cow milk is indigestible in the human body. Ever realize you never see "milk is good for strong bones" anymore? It's 'cause the various milk industries were sued due to false facts.
runtor1988 5 months ago
@runtor1988 (continuation) I'm sure I could go on a tangent about other vitamins, but calcium comes naturally from numerous sources. And contrary to popular belief, milk is not a viable source. Not so much that it doesn't contain it (which it does), but more so because from the research I've done, the calcium from cow milk is indigestible in the human body. Ever realize you never see "milk is good for strong bones" anymore? It's 'cause the various milk industries were sued due to false facts.
runtor1988 5 months ago
Let's send this worthless piece of shit to New Guinea where they practice cannibalism and then let's hear what he thinks about refraining from meat then. Oh wait, he'd be dead. Bummer.Tragic loss. Douchebags like this are living evidence as to why humans are a bad idea. Too bad his mom can't have a retroactive abortion.
07lechatnoir 5 months ago
Let's send this worthless piece of shit to New Guinea where they practice cannibalism and then let's hear what he thinks about refraining from meat then. Oh wait, he'd be dead. Bummer.Tragic loss. Douchebags like this are living evidence as to why humans are a bad idea. Too bad his mom can't have a retroactive abortion.
07lechatnoir 5 months ago
your life is bullshit. let everyone do what they want to do, vegan or die bitch
SuperAntiunicorn 5 months ago
i know many people who have gotten very ill after becoming vegan.
LAWAGO 6 months ago
@LAWAGO ...they must have been eating sugar/starch & soy stilll
royalt227 6 months ago
@LAWAGO true; those are the things to avoid not meat. Plant based diet yes but no need to spurn good meat and eggs.
LAWAGO 6 months ago
B12 comes only from animal products??? LOL Man, do some research. ALL vitamins an be found in vegan diets. They don't lack ANYTHING.
ddmdiana94 6 months ago
@ddmdiana94 lol ur an ass if you did research and came up with that nonsense.
LAWAGO 6 months ago
the only people who can truly be guilt free are survivalists who live out in the woods off of nuts and berries because animals are killed in the deforestation needed to make farms.and yes meat eaters are responsible for that too because we need to feed cows but thats just like shooting someone in the head and calling someone else a murderer cus they shot 2 people.we are all murderers and the sooner we can except that the better
awesumr 6 months ago
vegan diet can be healthy. vegetarian can be healthy. and yes even a meat eating diet can be healthy. each diet has its weak points and strengths. that being said, find out what those weaknesses are and suppliment.. and anything in excess in any diet is bad. the main concern with most vegans as is mine, is the immoral treatment of our fellow animal earthlings. for anyone who is interested in a certain diet, do explicit research to see if you have the will to devote yourself to this new life.
dorianstark1970 6 months ago 2
@Rezplendence Although a vegetarian diet has some benefits, it is not healthiest overall. For example the lack of many nurtients and supplements such as iron, B12 and Omega 3 fatty acids.
It isn't all good on the enviroment either, water pollution caused by pesticides and fertilizers on crops, buring of agricultural waste, high water usage added to water pollution, pollution from machinery such as tractors and combine harvesters, land desertification, it goes on.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction ...hemp is a dense/excellent source of b12... and pesticides are only used when unnatural plants are being cultivated & wen unnatural techniques are being used... (row crops, inorganic chemicals, etc)
royalt227 6 months ago