Ahmadinejad in Amir Kabir University part 3/8

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Ahamdi Mikosheemet

Khahi deed

Javoonha-ye Iran-o mikoshi haan?

[blaze17935]

hala ba in hameh moshkelat daneshamozha migi vaze hameh drosteh i was craying when i see what happened for all kidds .

[Kalehpache]

I have to say democracy isn't always the best solution for a country. But the human rights are and thats what Iran doesnt have, they are the oppesite

[MrMehdi]

Well, defining "human rights" differs from person to person. E.g. for some people, they don't like the idea of almost naked girls sleeping everywhere sunbathing and consider this against human rights... or to not be able to build a mosque! etc etc

[Kalehpache]

Ehmmmmmmm.. Well when you live in a Country where 90% of the people see it as okay to go sunbathing and you dont like it, then you have to go live some other place. Like you cant forbid others to go sunbathing because some people who just came to the country feel its respectless, then they need to know something about the country they have chosen to get to. And the mosque thing i have answered.

[Kalehpache]

I see these somalies walking around in scarfs where their face i covered too and im like are they even happy to live here in Denmark. Like it would be so much better for them to go to a place where she can find more people with her lifestyle, but we cant all change and make our buildings and society so it can fit a minority groups wishes.

[MrMehdi]

True.. This is only tells us that everyone is different.

[Kalehpache]

The danes have their own values and traditions that they also want to keep but that doesnt mean they dont have human rights and freedom of speach. Because EVERYBODY(also the danes) should have the chance to live their life on their way

[MrMehdi]

In this I agree with you 100%

[Kalehpache]

Well if you agree with this and the other comment than you should also agree with when i say its still democracy when they in denmark do not want to build a mosque. Because democracy means the voice of the people and the power to the people and when more than 50% of the people decide they dont want a mosque then thats how it should be. It doesnt mean that the minority are offended cuz they still have their little places to go and do what ever they want

[MrMehdi]

You mix with definitions, human rights, democracy etc...

Iran is not perfect, but it is much better than many other countires. And just because you don't feel home inbetween the iranian people, it doesn't mean they have dictatorship.

[Kalehpache]

In between the iranian people what the hell are you talking about. Acually i feel very home between the people in BALASHAHR were people have educations.

[MrMehdi]

he is telling the truth.. look, the president is allowing a small number of students to protest and say slogans against him into his phase, and he let's them talk and is quiet whne they talk... man which country does this? Other presidents would have ordered secrete services in beforehand to watch those people and stop them. Talk about true freedom

[JohnnyBravo2k]

Yes, those were later arrested and tortured! Some of them expelled, too! Uni. prof. also were laid off.

[MrMehdi]

Not true, I followed their news and what you are saying is not true. Why do you like to lie like that????

[Kalehpache]

LOoooooooooL "the news" HAHAHAHAH

[Kalehpache]

Oh my god what the hell are you talking about. First of all they are protesting indirectly! they are saying freedom for the students and ahmadinejad is trying to relate what ever they say to the time of shah! and if everything was so nice as you make it seem then why the fuck do you think they are protesting?

[Kalehpache]

beyond this as you can see there are alot of students protesting in the same time and many of them have bonds to each other so they will help each other also ahmadinejad was not prepered that there would be so much caos. If you think that there is democracy in iran then go see the new videos of iran and how they are beating the students up

[MrMehdi]

If this is your view of democracy, then I can clearly tell you that there is no democracy whatsoever in US, UK or any other country that claims to be democratic! For instance, recall the wild demonstrations prior to Iraq world across the "free world". And there are many examples.

[Kalehpache]

LoooL well of course its hard to find a perfect place to live with 100% democracy because there will always be someone who disagree, hahaha. But there is a big difference on how the different goverments treats people. Denmark claims to be democratic and they are. Being democratic means that the people decides, and when the people have the right to be free too say what they feel and critisize without being descriminated to others its called democracy.

[MrMehdi]

Denmark is not democratic. When hundreds of thousands of our brothers and sisters in Denmark bought place to built a mosque to worship God the government opposed them! That is NOT democratic, that is restricting the freedom that citizens usually should enjoy in a democratic state!

[Kalehpache]

LooooooooooL, bebin brother sister mister nakon. The danes are also my brothers and sisters and the people in Africa. The thing is the denmark is democratic they listen to everybody.

[Kalehpache]

The danes are not religious people themselves and they dont have huuuuuuuge churches to go pray everyday so why the hell should they make a mosque lol. Denmark is a little country they dont have room for that. The very religous muslims in denmark have special schools and stuff to go to, but the people who use thoese are most 1. generation immegrant 2. immegrants like me are not that religious they can pray at home.

[MrMehdi]

hehe, please read your recent comment ones! It is very clear that you oppose anything Islamic, and thus want to say that this is democratic in order to justify your actions. Just because Danish people (according to you) are not religious, it doesn't mean that they have the right to oppose Muslims to be more religious!!! This is completely against democracy and freedom!

[Kalehpache]

I live in Denmark so dont say accorting to me cause im not trying to lie or manipulate anybody! Its not against democracy baba what ever I say you keep repeating your last comment! They are not telling that the muslims cannot pray or whatever they just dont wanna build buildings that only get used by 5 % of the population..

[MrMehdi]

Why not? why is it allowed to build Synagogs for Jews who are very few, while no mosques can be built in Denmark???

[Kalehpache]

There are better things to use the money on like hospoitals and schools. In denmark they want to make secure frames before using money for a minor group. Why are your questions so childish man?

[Kalehpache]

You are such a double moral person, man I cant even take this convo seriously when I think about you thinking that the islamic rep. of Iran has any relations with freedom and democracy. Man you are 35 years old!

[MrMehdi]

Well, this is the difference between me and you. I realize that there are other ideas out there that people regard and consider, while you think that only your way of thinking is the right one.

[Kalehpache]

Of course I think my way is the right way otherwise i wouyldnt be here talking! But I am open to other opinions and I can change my mind and opinion in stuff. But I have to say I am a 100% thinking my thinking is much more right than yours in this convo. haha..

[Kalehpache]

And its democratic because they are free to pray and stuff they just have to be integrated to. Dont be so selfish man. And there are actually som mosques.

[Kalehpache]

And there is also democracy in UK and US cuz people are free to talk, maybe you dont like their system I dont like it either but its hard to get controle over a big country like US and there will always be someone behind the curtains doing stuff against democracy, but its not like people have to fit their way of living in alleready made very strict rules where you get prevented to acheive some of your normal needs(social needs, safety need etc.)

[MrMehdi]

Again not true! In US you CAN'T talk freely!!!! Can I ask you honestly whether or not you live on earth??? In US everyone is followed and the smallest word that might disagree with US government policy will be stopped and punished with treason!!! That is for normal people, and for their TV propaganda I only need to say FOX News and I hope you are experienced enough to understand!

[Kalehpache]

India is today the worlds most democratic place, but that doesnt mean that its nice to live there. So whats your definition of democracy?

[MrMehdi]

The general term that was actually derived from Communism! As you said, there can't be a 100% democracy, but I completely support the idea that there is a strong functioning democratic system in Iran.

[Kalehpache]

I have to say ZIIiiiIIiiiIRT... LoooooooL first of all you are so strict about how democracy should be and blabla you go and pick on DENMARK hahaa and say they dont have good democracy. And thaaaan You say IRAN has democracy i State that doesnt even know what human rights is oh my goooooood!!!!

[MrMehdi]

Human rights according to your definition!!! But they have human rights according to my definition.

[Kalehpache]

Bebin there is nothing your definition my definition about human rights! aspecially not when there is so big of a difference between the definitions!!!! I mean what the hell are you working for the islamic rep. or something because the words that i hear comming out of your mouth is the stupid excuses that the monkey ahmadinejad which appears to be our President uses.

[MrMehdi]

Do respect him and the other muslims because you yourself is not better than them. And be sure that any more disrespectfulness from you will stop our discussion. I continue with you as long as you keep in mind that we keep a respectful discussion.

[Kalehpache]

Of course im better than them dont ever compair me with thoese fucking donkies okay. I am sorry for you that you feel disrespected but in Denmark we call it having Discussing. If you cant handle it than stop i dont cair, but I will answer your comments untill your done, cause you have to know that you are a 100% wronng!

[Kalehpache]

Human Rights is the freedom of people having the right to live their life without others coming and dictating them, now thats hard to find in a dictating State with dictators ruling it(iran for example). Human rights is not as complicated as the definition of democracy so what ever you do to turn the human rights meaning so it will fit and seem that the iranian rep. is having it, you will never succed, cuz its too obvious to see if some country or state is breakes it!

[MrMehdi]

Well my friend, I am sorry to say that you don't have any idea about the world you are living in!!! Did you know that USA and Somalia are the only country that haven't signed the UNICEF agreement involving the Children rights. Somalia, only because they don't have any government. I agree that Iran is not perfect, but unlike you, I am aware of other countries and I am further aware that Iran is not worse than the countries you use as rawmodels.

[Kalehpache]

Why are you mixing all kinds of different subjects together just to make iran look good?

[Kalehpache]

kheili vasat motasefahm. You call it democracy when you in Iran get a stamp for NOT-voted so it gets harder for you to get a job and money. I mean are you being honest or are you some mullahs kid who wants to support Iran even if its not true. You know so much about other countriese problems and yet you cant see the most obvious problems in your own country!

[MrMehdi]

I admit that Iran, like any other big country has many problems. But I completely oppose the idea that they have more problem than other countries. I am not "some mullahs kid", I am a Muslim wannabe...

[Kalehpache]

Yeah you definitally a wanna be a ahmadinejad wanna be, cuz it looks you dont even what being a muslim means, not that i know cuz there are alot of differnt kind of muslims out there. But i definitaly now that being a muslim means being a good person and there is nothing good about irans way of ruling!

[MrMehdi]

Hehe, please don't talk about things you know nothing about, i.e. Islam. Iran is today the closest thing to an Islamic state. True that it is not a complete Islamic state, but if you knew the smallest thing about Islam, you would realise this.

[Kalehpache]

??? Are you trying to pissing me off Now you are being some kind of a shrink or what? Now you know my personality and how much i know about islam? I mean what the hell is wrong with you man? Closest thing to islam?

[Kalehpache]

I hope not you go around and say that to people they will get a even more bad impression of islam. Your dear ahmadinejad and his homies doesnt even gicve any damn about islam baba they just use it as a way to manipulate people(you are one of them). Dont you know that religion/lifestyle shouldnt get mixed with politics!( a clear thing to me)

[Kalehpache]

You are talking about denmark not respecting the muslims, because they dont wanna build a mosque for them(funny seems that the onlky thing you know about denmark) but you dont talk about the islamic repuplic forcing 70-100 mio. people in being muslims and live their life in one way, while they repress Zartoshtinisme and other iranian traditions and values. Are you even iranian? You seem like you dont even care about the peoples conditions.

[Kalehpache]

PS: I will answer you last comment later. I have to go to work!

[fuckAli2Mehdi]

fuck th islamic regime

[beny1818]

fuck him.. fuck all the molas around the world you suck mother fuckerss

[beny1818]

shut the fuck offf

[ceo2008]

ahmadijejad = Hitler

[lonecactus43]

AHMADINEJAD=TRUTH

[mmaa21]

hail isalm

[mazdakaz]

NAbood Bad Fashisme eslami

[hesam1983]

marg bar diktator