Yea Im sure those hippies were armed to the teeth. "Self defense" IDF you are a bunch of soulless cowards. Humanity will never be free as long as you exist.
A UN Inquiry into the May 31, 2010 Gaza flotilla raid and boarding of the Turkish ship, the MV Mavi Marmara, “found that Israel’s blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza is legal and the Israeli government owes no apology or reparation to Turkey.”
The UN committee criticized Turkey for not doing enough to stop the flotilla when it set sail in May 2010 and for its weak investigation into the events that followed.
Al-Jazeera truth: "IDF forces .... kills dozens of passengers"???? Dozens? Why not hundreds? or thousands?
This not even an "ARAB Fantasy" but a very sick propaganda. Now you understand why NOBODY believes anymore these crazy and uncivilized Palestinians???
@roby5167 A UN Inquiry into the May 31, 2010 Gaza flotilla raid and boarding of the Turkish ship, the MV Mavi Marmara, “found that Israel’s blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza is legal and the Israeli government owes no apology or reparation to Turkey.”
The UN committee criticized Turkey for not doing enough to stop the flotilla when it set sail in May 2010 and for its weak investigation into the events that followed.
@88Landsmann A UN Inquiry into the May 31, 2010 Gaza flotilla raid and boarding of the Turkish ship, the MV Mavi Marmara, “found that Israel’s blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza is legal and the Israeli government owes no apology or reparation to Turkey.”
The UN committee criticized Turkey for not doing enough to stop the flotilla when it set sail in May 2010 and for its weak investigation into the events that followed.
Just wondering -- did Israelis hand out sweets and candies and celebrate the deaths of these terrorists, like the Palestinians did following the cold-blooded murder of an Israeli family of five, including 3 kids?!
Nope, because unlike their foe, they're civilized and decent.
white flag my ass, white flag means surrender not take out your batons and start attacking soldiers with paintball guns the ships medicine was all out of date.the turks are full of shit.go israel.
@orenr100 yeah well when you board a ship that isn't yours you get what you deserve. What do you think those israelis were going to do when they boarded carrying guns ? Just imagine a world with no Israel......... sure would be nice
Ironic how arab countries raise the palestinian flag chanting "free gaza" and all that bull, while at the same time picking off reffugees who cross the border with AK's. Let's face it, NOBODY wants to be in countries like Turkey, Iran, Syria and egypt for the sole reason that they are total dead end countries with no civil rights and complete government power, all the while maintaining a very prominent stream of corruption.
They seized all their Mobiles deleted film of IDF-Mossad shooting from air into cabins, and executing folk so with lack of information no one knew whether it was 9-12-30 at that time, Take a look at links under my US Aid Video to see the Horrors Israeli Murderers are capable of DEAD CIVILIANS-KIDS, with not a fighter in sight!
the events around the massacre against the gaza aid flotilla passengers are typical for zionism: judaisation of palestine, decades of occupation of gaza, followed by a blockade, attack on the aid flotilla violating int'l law including shooting of passengers, confiscation of ships and cargo, arrest of passengers, parading and filming them after debarking, selective usage of footage,...presenting himself as victim, mounting of a gigantic PR offensive through all their channels, also on yt
It seems israel did have the authority to board. IDF is the Israeli defense forces. They can and should board, hit, kill and anything necessary to protect Israel. It is their job.
To be certain- aid can be sent many other ways to Gaza. It is smuggling that has to be done without Israeli interference.
seee, the whole thing was illegal ..Israel has no authority to attack ships in international waters who are only bringing aid........yes, the protesters were violent...of course....pirates attacked
Alrighty. Israel is going ahead with west bank expansion, in express contradiction of US concerns, and in total violation of all international mores and laws. Let us dispense with pretense and call this policy exactly what it is: Lebensraum for Zionists. How perfectly ironic!
It is ALL about the land. The settlers care only for themselves, and if their greed brings never ending violence against all Israelis --- and Americans --- they do not care.
This is what the United Nations said about the attack on the aid flotilla:
...such tragedies are entirely avoidable if Israel heeds the repeated calls of the international community to end its counterproductive and unacceptable blockade of Gaza.”
@TheChutzpahGirl Oh yes, the same United Nations that voted for Partition of Palestine - their opinions should definitely be unquestionably accepted.
Wasn this the same United Nations that sent peacekeeping troops to Uganda, and forbad the Belgians, French and Canadian soldiers from using their arms when 100,000s were massacred?
VERY SIMPLE – The IDF published its plans long before the raid. Knowing the IDF plans, the “peace activists” set the trap to the soldiers by announcing(on video) that there will be only PASSIVE RESSISTANCE. This, while prepared for a savage attack against the soldiers. They waited calmly for the soldiers to come down holding lethal primitive weapons. These people came to die as shahids(martyrs) and cause damage to Israel in the process. Watch the videos (not just of IDF), don't buy propaganda.
1. A Brit reporting on the flotilla that tried to break the posted naval blockade, given that the Brits did the same thing to Jewish immigrants fleeing from post-Nazi Europe. No one condemned the Brits for killing any Jew who resisted their boarding.
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2. The Turks protesting outrage at the naval blockade; the same Turks who blockaded Armenia, and decimated the Armenian people - with no word of regret, nor acceptance of responsibility.
@PRICK3 Why heap condemnation on the Turkish politicians? They still haven admitted to killing all the Armenians, and the Kurdish annihilation is still in its infancy.
@RadioReporter01 What do the Turks have to do with Israel or Palestine - my history suggests that the Brits rid the region of Turkish rule in 1917.
And there was no criminal activity by the IDF - read your law books - Israel legal invoked a maritime blockade, and protected its territory - Brits did the same from 1936 to 1948.
And as for the Armenians, I suggest Turkey take responsibility for its carnage before complaining about human rights in another nation.
@RadioReporter01 Again, I concede that I have no hope of convincing you of anything, but proving you wrong is a simple mental exercise in logic.
It is apparent that your main intellectual weapon is name calling, and as long as you focus on that, you believe that you can warp the truth to meet your message.
This is about a group of misled supporters of peace, who support the wrong side for the wrong reasons.
Iif you are so concerned for the people of Gaza, onn getting supplies through Egypt?
That was the initial report since the IDF shot so many. Some lived out of the 50 shot
If yopu're so concerned with the facts weher are the cameras the IDFF pirate stole so no one could see. Why cut off emergency comms? So no one could see THE CRIMES OF THE CRYBABY IDF WHO WET THEIR PANTS WHEN THEY WERE SURROUNDED
lol.....crybaby's wet their pants. Real commandos....HAHAHAHA
@RadioReporter01 So, noe you claim 50 were swhot. I guess the press, even if prejudiced, is just not swift enough to keep up with your mathematics.
And IDF, by SOP, cuts off all communications in a battle zone - but you wouldn know about a battle zone - No, itś not like you fighting your way out of a paper bag - the closest you have come to combat (or perhaps, you did get to watch the latest Karate Kid movie).
last I heard 48 shot, 10 DOA, 6 still missing and a whole bunch of baloney about how the stolen laptops were discarded carelessly by the IDF
In reality, the high seas pirates took all those laptops and cams to analyze for pictures that help their murderous lies, like the guy with the beard and the big knife the IDF crybabys said was attacking them which is a big fat lie.
They gave that as evidence of who was on the boat but they stole that pic from a stolen news man's camera
@RadioReporter01 So, now you complain that the IDF released information from someone else¨s pictures - guess that is a really bad way of hiding the truth!
And the numbers, are you claiming that you did the gathering of facts, or did you steal the data from someone else, too?
Someone should check the evidence locker in your precinct to see what else you stole.
Nice try criminal. They released a picture they stole of a professor and tried to say he was a killer and that was why they committed murder. Those killed on the Flotilla were assassinated.
Guess that's a bad way to hide the truth? You Jewish Extremists will stoop to anything which is why we are working to put you in jail
@RadioReporter01 So now you are fighting for information rights - you don want pictures and/or information disseminated? is that it - unless, that is, it is screened and bended to suit your message.
And sorry to disappoint you, I am not a Jewish Extremist - but it would suit your message to racially profile me, wouldn it?
Stick to the issues, rather than name-calling - it shows how prejudiced you really are.
A battle zone in international waters, cutting off safety comms for a fight with women and children who are unarmed save for a few poles? 48 shot, it was unknown at the time how many were dead
I worked crime scenes in NYC for 30 years while you were sucking the Canadian titty, so your insult about war zones shows you are a clown.
@RadioReporter01 Right, first its 18 people killed according to Al Jazeera, now the truth is far less.
Given your advanced age, where were you when the Brits stormed Panamanian registered boats on the high seas, and arrested and attacked immigrant women and children trying to make it to Palestine?
Given that Canadian forces have provided more peacekeeping troops, and lost far more than the police of NYC, I suggest your comment has no basis nor valifdity.
Prick, this confusion was caused by the Israeli media blackout, which, in itself, goes to show the extent to which Israel was making sure no one knew what they were really up to.
@TheChutzpahGirl Who is confused? Al JAzeera reported inflated numbers of dead and wounded, totally misrepresenting the facts. Up to the minute action reports are much more exciting than real news, corroborated by factual investigation - which may take a little more patience - patience you seem to be without.
Don blame Israel for the dissemination of erroneous information - just continue to flog the hype.
@PRICK3 Better ask TheChutzpahGirl - she can have them vote on it at the next United Nations Security Council meeting. Perhaps they can come up with a number equal to the innocents killed in Ruanda.
@PRICK3 Maybe they got better after being killed. Afterall this is the middle east and things do not happen the way there that they do in other places.
aljazeera like all arab channels always tells the "truth" and the world always believes them. in 67 their channels reported a "victory" for Jordan and "wipe out" of israel off the map..
@lioruch You are probably exagerrating but think about this. about 80 of Ameircans are Christian. Some are wonderful people and some are serial killers bombers terrorists and the like, Green River Killer Timothy McVeigh, Klu Klux Klan of course, in some way the godfathers of terrorism, all considered themselves Christian. Does this make Christianity a bad religion
@TemujinMSM I spoke about extremists not about all the muslim people.. those who take the religion a little bit too far.(like bombing London, Russia, India,11\9 NY and of course Israel). for what? for getting attention?
And after this Israel is a terrorist.. yeah right.
Israel's government is a terrorist government. All Israels Prime Ministers have killed at least 15 people when they were a young member of Hanag terror organization.
In August 1896, bands of Turks patrolled the streets of Constantinople killing over 5000 Armenians. In All, the total toll from 1894 to 1896 is estimated at 100,000 non combatants killed, 50,000 dead from starvation, 40,000 forcibly converted to Islam and 100,000 driven into exile.
On July 22, 2008 and on March 5, 2009 an arab ran over 20 innocent israelis in Jerusalem with a traktor. No one said anything about it around the world. Last week 8 Jihad-related arabs died and the whole world acts like we minimum killed the pope. When all you Israel haters go to hell - be sure to say to Hitler that no one can destroy Israel and the Jewish people!!!!
@RinD88 Yes, no one can destroy Israel and the Jewish people... so long as they are backed by billions from the US each year. And since I am a US taxpayer, I am perfectibility entitled to criticize Israel's foreign policy debacles, such as this one, because they create for us a lot of blowback, violent and otherwise.
@ked1066 Israelis just defend their citizens, & avoiding more bloodshed. Once the metal gets in the Gaza, they could become rockets to attack Israeli towns, then the israelis retaliate, & then Pali children are used as shileds, & then AlJazeera & CNN & you cry that children were killed . So conclusion : Israelis are protecting the lives of Pali- kids, before the damage is done.
@RadioReporter01 Muhammad was the greatest pirot in the 6th Century. perhaps a Zionist did your mama in the ass, did that really hurt your eyes since you were in your mom's ass before you were born?
@RadioReporter01 Yes - as is a regular policy, the IDF and Israel government hold investigations into activities after a military operation - and lay charges where misconduct is uncovered (they do not hide the crimes, nor the results of their investigations).
I suggest you reread your history of the Vietnam War (especially the chapter on My Lai), perhaps the USA, like most countries at war, is equally as culpable for crimes of war?
"They do not hide investigations", the IDF. I think the trial in Haifa with Rachel Corries parents show they are lying cheating murderous thieves. And the Flotilla shows they are liars and high seas pirates.
@RadioReporter01 Not at all true - invoking an example to prove a point is a simple and valid method of logic, widely accepted, but not to you, as it spoils encumbers your thought processes, and destroys your argument.
Perhaps walking the beat in NYC for all those years has numbed you to rationality.
@4Tamashah Not sure I can agree with the IDF being a ḱind'army, since kindness is anathema to war and killing. To say that the IDF is moral, and ethical, would have to be stated in a context of comparison with other armies.
It is evident that Shayetet 13 is well equiped and well trained, but they were, in this instance, given the wrong expectations, evidenced by the use of color ball guns (not expecting the Mavi Marmara protesters to attack with weapons).
@RadioReporter01 Muhammad the false prophet was the biggest child murderer. & he abused little boys to satisfy his soldiers to spread Islam. The problem today is not Israelrather, it is Islam.
@clintonearlwalker Of course, that Turkey is a NATO member, US ally, and a supporter (at least heretofore) of Israel should not be cause for thought...
We should totally ignore that the vessels carried citizens of the US itself, and of other US allies... certainly we should pay no attention to the fact that one of the vessels flies a US flag. All things considered, clearly the sanest and most responsible response would have been all out war. Missed opportunity!
@ked1066 War is never sane bub. There are assholes and idiots in every country including the United States, and Turkey. Isreal and it's current Prime Minister are finally fighting back against the scum that have been attacking them for at least 50 years, I don't blame them a bit, and I hope they continue to do so. It was raghead filth that were killed in this battle, not Israeli women and children. Maybe Isreal is finally starting to learn that lesson about war.
@clintonearlwalker Surely war is not sane. And surely the human condition can only get worse when people watch a youtube video or a news segment for all of 5 minutes and decide they know enough to pronounce death sentences, en masse.
But another point you made- this was a state of war? Six civilian vessels carrying civilians, including many women, with an entirely humanitarian cargo and no military weapons *at all*, a fact certified by numerous officials in numerous ports? What an odd armada
@ked1066 Buddy I don't know where u have been, but the war against the Jews has been going on for at least 70 years. I've seen pics of the cargo on those ships that inclucded slingshots, ammo for them, gas masks, and cement for building hardend redoubts for rockets. Those terrorists don't wear uniforms, they hide behind women and children all the time, they strap bombs full of nails to children, and they don't care if they live or die. The only way to stop them is to kill them.
Know your facts, nimrod. The people on board were arming themselves in case a fracas broke out. Use logic. If a gang of soldiers stormed onto your ship, would you not pick something up to defend yourself against MACHINE GUNS? I take it you're an Israeli supporter seeing that you're coming up with pathetic excuses to justify this act of terrorism?
@Sugarface011 It's hard to keep up with all of this, but the party line clearly is to voice regret over loss of life, caution against drawing conclusions prematurely, all while not criticizing Israel even implicitly. The reality, gathered from the subtext, seems to be that the Obama admin is absolutely furious w/ the Israelis. At least this is my perception.
@ked1066 Its not hard to keep up with this. The facts are clear; Israel is commiting illegal crimes every hour of the day, the United states, loves war, loves power, loves money. The jews think they are the chosen people, they will kill anyone who stands in there way, as they have. The UN has ignored Israel because of the power the US holds, Americans are too stupid to realize your money is funding Israel, funding the war, funding the illegal acts of these criminals. Ur all sheep.
@Sugarface011 I *meant* that it was hard to keep up with the specific utterances of the political machinery, because I thought you were asking an *honest* question, as opposed to contriving a pretext for hauling out the flamethrower. Anyway, while I've spent countless words on this and other threads decrying the actions & policies of Israel (& US), I find what you say to be more of the same ugly generalizations. Truth is even many Israeli's deplore the flotilla raid and condemn the blockade.
Israel is NEVER the aggressor!! It's always someone ELSE'S fault that we act like pirates and shoot at women children and elderly people on a boat in the middle of waters we have NO claim over!! You don't like that we kill innocent people? you MUST be a RACIST ANTI-SEMITIC PERSON!!
If Israel wanted to play the VICTIM card, why don't they wait for someone to go in THEIR waters and ATTACK THEM? you can't expect ppl to feel bad for you when you're the aggressor!
These "Activists" were hired guns by the IHH, an organization known to have links to terrorist groups. Their only intention was to create a provocation which will make Israel look bad.
The flotilla ships were offered the chance to come and have their cargo checked, yet they refused ! There is more aid being transported EVERY DAY to Gaza BY ISRAEL !!
Terrorists must know that no such attempts will go unanswered by Israel. EVER.
all in the name of euthanizing palestinians?Do we not have enuff problems in the middle east that we need the israelis to use violence against turks.Turks have been our one true ally in the mess over there.Try telling americans that only 3,000 people died on 9/11 when there could have been many more deaths; does this make it ok?
Ne yazık ki Arduan sadece İsrail sadece kendi halkı ve Müslüman ülkeler arasında siyasi popülerlik kazanıyor için saldıran budur. Türkler-I yazık apaçık yönde ülke İran'a iki numaralı gidiyor
"The Turkish Islamic charity behind a flotilla of aid ships that was raided by Israeli forces on its way to Gaza had ties to terrorism networks, including a 1999 al-Qaida plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport, France's former top anti-terrorism judge said Wednesday."
Maybe the IDF needs to release ALL the footage they have confiscated from activists and journalists, instead of the 3 or 4 highly selected minutes they want us to see. Then we can watch the whole episode and decide for ourselves.
@ked1066 All I can say is that if there were NO footage whatsoever this entire incident would simply be accepted as excessive force on the part of the IDF. I am all for peaceful protests but if you start hitting armed soldiers with metal rods you get what you deserve. Sorry.
People need to look up the censored footage of this event so they can see the soldiers were attacked immediately upon boarding the vessel. The so called peace activists were looking for a fight. They should know that you don't bring metal rods to a gunfight.
@anooseholay Maybe they felt compelled to defend themselves, much in the same way the jews on the SS Exdous violently resisted british soldiers. Some of them were shot, too. Or maybe it's just as you say, they brought the wrong equipment to the fight.
Isreal has the right to preserve itself. Producing and hitting the commandos with clubs is the exact same thing as pulling at a gun: its deadly force. if they were peaceful, they would have let the commandos board and inspect the ship. if they were stupid enough to attack the commandos, then they deserved what was coming for them.
@evilclown9911 Maybe they felt compelled to act in self-defense. Similar to the jewish passengers on the SS Exodus, in 1947, who violently resisted when British soldiers tried to forcibly board their ship. So then you're saying that the passengers who were shot in that case also had it coming to them?
@evilclown9911 And what were they preserving themselves against? Ships of unarmed civilians, many of them women, carrying cargo that was certified in numerous ports by numerous officials to be entirely humanitarian?
@ked1066 Beating the soldiers with metal clubes does not make these people unarmed civilains. They rolled the dice when they attacked the soldiers and got what they got for it. Tough shit I say.
@anooseholay Yeah I thought about what you said and you're right- in every way. Like the Iranian protesters last summer, shot by Iranian state militia- got exactly what they asked for. Rowdy Vietnam protesters at Kent State- shot exactly as they deserved. Chinese dissidents in Tienanmen square... pow!
@ked1066 You're comparing apples to oranges. I am not. The protestors you mentioned were all peaceful. The protestors on this boat were not as can be seen in many other videos. You start beating armed soldiers with metal rods and you take a chance on getting shot for your efforts.
@anooseholay Tell yourself that. Did you watch any of the video out of Tehran? The students at Kent St were throwing rocks. We have very little idea of what happened in China, because very little footage escaped. But it was bad. I could go on and on with this. There is always violence in organized protest, either intentional or not. The point in any *democratic* society is to allow dissenters expression while preventing escalation. The boarding was stupid deliberate escalation.
@avinoam83 No nine are not dozens. Perhaps a more observant eye would have noticed that this was posted four days ago, apparently just as the news was breaking. The poster of the video has not been active on the thread. Probably like so many, uh, contributors here, s/he is not interested in any substantial conversation, rather would just like to flame propaganda.
But then all of that didn't really need to be said, did it?
@ayel931 Maybe the IDF should have just stayed on the helicopter. Then the activists would have had no reason to feel they needed to defend themselves, and no way of harming the soldiers in any case.
600 people in one boat to aid Hamas terror organization? Why not fill the ship with supplies?
Turkish Arduan wants to be in good touch with the new Hitler Ahmadi Nigad! And he needs to make Israel look bad in International eyes.
So He funds and send this crazy "Shahid" ship...
Than the world is mad about Israel.
And Muslims are happy filling now it is ok to go back to terror acts with the support of Eutopean Union Barak Obama and other so called westren countries.
Funny how this video fail to give the viewer the real events. That's those people on the Marmara ship were Al Quiada opertvies, equiped with Ceramic plates, night vision, Gas masks, Iron rods, Knifves, and Fire arms. Funny how this video fail to mention that Israeli troops went on board with panitballs and not fire arms, and only when they were under direct risk a 2nd wave of troops landed with Pistols. Well what can u expect from arab propoganda?
@StarBlackWolf Yeah. Interesting bunch of terrorists, don't you think? Civilians, many of them women, armed with no more than what you can find in my garden shed. Also the boats were certified numerous times in numerous ports to be carrying humanitarian cargo and no arms.
Now when I think of terrorists, I usually imagine masked men, cloaked in black and carrying machine guns. And now that you got me thinking about it, I did see some individuals like that in the video... I need rewatch
There is no such thing PALEATINE-there is no arab it the world that really can say PALESTINE without saying BALESTINE -in arabic there is no word "P" -try to ask any arab to say PITA BREAD and he will say BITA BREAD they didnt gave the name PALESTINE the got it from the turkish and the british who brought some of them from lebanon syria egypt and the area to build the train that crossed israel.
ASK ANY " PALESTINIEN " - ABOUT HIS PAST: WHO WHERE HIS LEADERS -AND HE WONT HAVE ANY ANSWER!!
In fact, the most outspoken critics of Israel, like Iran and other Arab countries, are also the countries with the worst human rights records, and yet they have the nerve to criticize Israel when it acted in self-defence. This hypocrisy is glaring in your eyes!
@chesterlover4eva Which is the real irony. Because what we saw happen on those ships is exactly the same type of scene that played out between the Iranian green revolutionaries and the armed forces in Tehran last summer.
Israel has a right to self-defence, whether you hypocrites like it or not!
Let’s ask the self-righteous people of Turkey about the Genocide they committed against the Armenian people... The Turkish people still refuse to acknowledge that they massacred the Armenian people.
Respond to this video... Are you American? If so I'd like to ask you about the organized slaughter and dispossession of Native Americans. Also, the organized enslavement of Africans, which require an entire civil war & untold bloodshed before it was decided that maybe that wasn't the right way to behave toward other humans.
For God's sake!! No one says this is right or good, your not some angel come to teach us that killing is bad. WE KNOW. Israel tries everything to prevent civilian deaths, but its kinda hard when psychos willing to die in order to kill you are throwing themselves in your face, or naive Americans are throwing themselves in front of bulldozers. Did you know that Corrie's parents were almost kidnapped during their stay in Gaza. I wish it happened-it really would've woken them up.
@pshapiro1029 I'm not trying to teach him that killing is bad. I would hope that goes unsaid. The point of the post, if i need to spell it out, was to illuminate hypocrisy and inconsistency. If, because of previous war or atrocity, then no group of people could ever take a moral stand, then we would live in a totally amoral world. The turks certainly are guilty genocide. But of course none of these turks or any people involved were even alive then. Make sense now?
Well-meaning but totally misdirect people like you are going to sit and ponder, and criticize, and condemn until one day Islamic extremists are going to get their hands on nuclear weapons from Pakistan or Iran and millions of lives will be on your hands. It doesn't have to be this way. Let's focus on the real problem. When millions of Muslims no longer want to murder us, then we can talk about how Israel can be more sensitive and do more to avoid civilian death. To do so beforehand is absurd
@pshapiro1029 So until we convince muslims to forgo violence, we are justified in our own violence - even when it kills civilians? Any chance that the killing of muslim civilians will convince other muslims that the only option is violence?
OK we're getting somewhere. Yes, until someone stops trying to kill you, you are in fact justified in using violence to protect yourself even when it kills civilians, the very same civilians that dance and sing in the streets when a commuter bus blows up in Jerusalem. I don't know what will convince Muslims. I wish I did. Maybe nothing will, maybe its part of Islam, I really don't know. Are you starting to understand?
@pshapiro1029 Again, condescending. I'll look past it, again... I would suggest that Maybe we can convince some or even most of them with a land agreement. It is after all the foundation of their anger. Of course we will never convince all, and some will resort to violence. Which is one of the reasons Israel will not dismantle the settlements, they know that certain Israelis will oppose that with violence.
A land agreement eh? Yep, that worked at Camp David right? How can you really think that when they have rejected a deal again and again. We JUST gave back Gaza!!!
OK but forget that I want to hear you substantiate you comparison between the SS Exodus and the Mavi Marmara. Go ahead, I'm all ears.
And yet the very people who threaten and attempt a genocide of Jews virtually every day ARE alive, and yet these are the very people you want us to provide with open ports and open borders. USE. YOUR. BRAIN. PLEEEEAAAAASEE.
Yea Im sure those hippies were armed to the teeth. "Self defense" IDF you are a bunch of soulless cowards. Humanity will never be free as long as you exist.
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A UN Inquiry into the May 31, 2010 Gaza flotilla raid and boarding of the Turkish ship, the MV Mavi Marmara, “found that Israel’s blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza is legal and the Israeli government owes no apology or reparation to Turkey.”
The UN committee criticized Turkey for not doing enough to stop the flotilla when it set sail in May 2010 and for its weak investigation into the events that followed.
vbkpartners 7 months ago
Al-Jazeera truth: "IDF forces .... kills dozens of passengers"???? Dozens? Why not hundreds? or thousands?
This not even an "ARAB Fantasy" but a very sick propaganda. Now you understand why NOBODY believes anymore these crazy and uncivilized Palestinians???
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@roby5167 A UN Inquiry into the May 31, 2010 Gaza flotilla raid and boarding of the Turkish ship, the MV Mavi Marmara, “found that Israel’s blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza is legal and the Israeli government owes no apology or reparation to Turkey.”
The UN committee criticized Turkey for not doing enough to stop the flotilla when it set sail in May 2010 and for its weak investigation into the events that followed.
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MyJoero 6 months ago
how can someone support israel????????????
88Landsmann 8 months ago
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@88Landsmann A UN Inquiry into the May 31, 2010 Gaza flotilla raid and boarding of the Turkish ship, the MV Mavi Marmara, “found that Israel’s blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza is legal and the Israeli government owes no apology or reparation to Turkey.”
The UN committee criticized Turkey for not doing enough to stop the flotilla when it set sail in May 2010 and for its weak investigation into the events that followed.
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swanson01john 2 months ago
@swanson01john funny.. the jewish god doesnt forbid to lie to a goyim.. never read the talmud? of course you have..
88Landsmann 2 months ago
Just wondering -- did Israelis hand out sweets and candies and celebrate the deaths of these terrorists, like the Palestinians did following the cold-blooded murder of an Israeli family of five, including 3 kids?!
Nope, because unlike their foe, they're civilized and decent.
jefit 11 months ago 2
Palestinians been kicked out of Joran, there's where they belong. Israel belongs to the Jews. Why doesnt Jordan take them back? Give them aid so on.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
white flag my ass, white flag means surrender not take out your batons and start attacking soldiers with paintball guns the ships medicine was all out of date.the turks are full of shit.go israel.
orenr100 1 year ago 2
@orenr100 yeah well when you board a ship that isn't yours you get what you deserve. What do you think those israelis were going to do when they boarded carrying guns ? Just imagine a world with no Israel......... sure would be nice
mkora1313 4 months ago
Ironic how arab countries raise the palestinian flag chanting "free gaza" and all that bull, while at the same time picking off reffugees who cross the border with AK's. Let's face it, NOBODY wants to be in countries like Turkey, Iran, Syria and egypt for the sole reason that they are total dead end countries with no civil rights and complete government power, all the while maintaining a very prominent stream of corruption.
rahagbab 1 year ago
They seized all their Mobiles deleted film of IDF-Mossad shooting from air into cabins, and executing folk so with lack of information no one knew whether it was 9-12-30 at that time, Take a look at links under my US Aid Video to see the Horrors Israeli Murderers are capable of DEAD CIVILIANS-KIDS, with not a fighter in sight!
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mzmike114 1 year ago
the events around the massacre against the gaza aid flotilla passengers are typical for zionism: judaisation of palestine, decades of occupation of gaza, followed by a blockade, attack on the aid flotilla violating int'l law including shooting of passengers, confiscation of ships and cargo, arrest of passengers, parading and filming them after debarking, selective usage of footage,...presenting himself as victim, mounting of a gigantic PR offensive through all their channels, also on yt
zobielamouche1 1 year ago
It seems israel did have the authority to board. IDF is the Israeli defense forces. They can and should board, hit, kill and anything necessary to protect Israel. It is their job.
To be certain- aid can be sent many other ways to Gaza. It is smuggling that has to be done without Israeli interference.
CJFCarlsson 1 year ago
seee, the whole thing was illegal ..Israel has no authority to attack ships in international waters who are only bringing aid........yes, the protesters were violent...of course....pirates attacked
232323C 1 year ago
Alrighty. Israel is going ahead with west bank expansion, in express contradiction of US concerns, and in total violation of all international mores and laws. Let us dispense with pretense and call this policy exactly what it is: Lebensraum for Zionists. How perfectly ironic!
It is ALL about the land. The settlers care only for themselves, and if their greed brings never ending violence against all Israelis --- and Americans --- they do not care.
ked1066 1 year ago
This is what the United Nations said about the attack on the aid flotilla:
...such tragedies are entirely avoidable if Israel heeds the repeated calls of the international community to end its counterproductive and unacceptable blockade of Gaza.”
TheChutzpahGirl 1 year ago
@TheChutzpahGirl
Sure, and allow millions of dollars of arms, bombs, stingers, bazookas, eventually tanks, missiles...
They tried it before and both attempts were well documented-and thwarted.
See what I mean? Dont be so naive.
smike53 1 year ago
@TheChutzpahGirl Oh yes, the same United Nations that voted for Partition of Palestine - their opinions should definitely be unquestionably accepted.
Wasn this the same United Nations that sent peacekeeping troops to Uganda, and forbad the Belgians, French and Canadian soldiers from using their arms when 100,000s were massacred?
stephanepereire 1 year ago
fuck for israel
g4ea 1 year ago
@g4ea No problem. What's your sister's email address?
jmaimarc 1 year ago
@jmaimarc Get his mom's for me while your at it....
BLEST455 1 year ago
FUCK THESE LIBERALS AND FUCK THESE RAGHEADS
GET SOME lSRAEL! FUCK THEM ALL UP
NEXT TIME, JUST DROP SOME NAPALM ON THESE TERRORIST HUGGIN FAGGOTS WAHAHAHAHAH
metalman1193 1 year ago
@metalman1193
Funny we were just thinking of your mama....
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 ahh what a shitty attempt to insult me.
too bad that aint gonna stop me from droppin napalm whenever I see you humanitarian faggots
metalman1193 1 year ago
@metalman1193
take your thumb out of your mouth when you say that little girl.....
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
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VERY SIMPLE – The IDF published its plans long before the raid. Knowing the IDF plans, the “peace activists” set the trap to the soldiers by announcing(on video) that there will be only PASSIVE RESSISTANCE. This, while prepared for a savage attack against the soldiers. They waited calmly for the soldiers to come down holding lethal primitive weapons. These people came to die as shahids(martyrs) and cause damage to Israel in the process. Watch the videos (not just of IDF), don't buy propaganda.
Grinich79 1 year ago
I am not sure which is more amusing:
1. A Brit reporting on the flotilla that tried to break the posted naval blockade, given that the Brits did the same thing to Jewish immigrants fleeing from post-Nazi Europe. No one condemned the Brits for killing any Jew who resisted their boarding.
or
2. The Turks protesting outrage at the naval blockade; the same Turks who blockaded Armenia, and decimated the Armenian people - with no word of regret, nor acceptance of responsibility.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
You forgot about the PKK.
A quote from yesterday's news (June 20th):
"Erdogan: PKK militants will drown in their own blood"
A quote from two weeks ago news (June 4th):
"PM Erdogan: 'Thou shalt not kill'"
I say this guy has a split personality.
PRICK3 1 year ago
@PRICK3 Why heap condemnation on the Turkish politicians? They still haven admitted to killing all the Armenians, and the Kurdish annihilation is still in its infancy.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
What do the Armenians have to do with high seas piracy by the criminals of the IDF?
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 What do the Turks have to do with Israel or Palestine - my history suggests that the Brits rid the region of Turkish rule in 1917.
And there was no criminal activity by the IDF - read your law books - Israel legal invoked a maritime blockade, and protected its territory - Brits did the same from 1936 to 1948.
And as for the Armenians, I suggest Turkey take responsibility for its carnage before complaining about human rights in another nation.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
you sure spend a lot of time trying to convince me your baloney is true
again changing the subject. stay focused loser, this is about Israel
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 Again, I concede that I have no hope of convincing you of anything, but proving you wrong is a simple mental exercise in logic.
It is apparent that your main intellectual weapon is name calling, and as long as you focus on that, you believe that you can warp the truth to meet your message.
This is about a group of misled supporters of peace, who support the wrong side for the wrong reasons.
Iif you are so concerned for the people of Gaza, onn getting supplies through Egypt?
stephanepereire 1 year ago
We Love Israel. You did a great job Israel. I love Israel with all my heart.
Peace from England.
4Tamashah 1 year ago
@4Tamashah
did a great job of murder, piracy and robbery in international waters
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
I wonder how many "dozens" are 9 people...
PRICK3 1 year ago 14
@PRICK3
can't count either huh stupid?
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01
I can count ,but can you?
PRICK3 1 year ago
@PRICK3 You mean 9 terrorists.
b77097 1 year ago
@b77097
My bad
PRICK3 1 year ago
@PRICK3 Your math is far better than that of al-Jezeera. But then again, whether 9 or 19, facts shouldn interfere with the story.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
"Facts shouldn't interfere with the story"?
So what should interfere ,if it isn't the facts?
Fiction?
Halucinations?
Delusion?
PRICK3 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
That was the initial report since the IDF shot so many. Some lived out of the 50 shot
If yopu're so concerned with the facts weher are the cameras the IDFF pirate stole so no one could see. Why cut off emergency comms? So no one could see THE CRIMES OF THE CRYBABY IDF WHO WET THEIR PANTS WHEN THEY WERE SURROUNDED
lol.....crybaby's wet their pants. Real commandos....HAHAHAHA
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 So, noe you claim 50 were swhot. I guess the press, even if prejudiced, is just not swift enough to keep up with your mathematics.
And IDF, by SOP, cuts off all communications in a battle zone - but you wouldn know about a battle zone - No, itś not like you fighting your way out of a paper bag - the closest you have come to combat (or perhaps, you did get to watch the latest Karate Kid movie).
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
last I heard 48 shot, 10 DOA, 6 still missing and a whole bunch of baloney about how the stolen laptops were discarded carelessly by the IDF
In reality, the high seas pirates took all those laptops and cams to analyze for pictures that help their murderous lies, like the guy with the beard and the big knife the IDF crybabys said was attacking them which is a big fat lie.
They gave that as evidence of who was on the boat but they stole that pic from a stolen news man's camera
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 So, now you complain that the IDF released information from someone else¨s pictures - guess that is a really bad way of hiding the truth!
And the numbers, are you claiming that you did the gathering of facts, or did you steal the data from someone else, too?
Someone should check the evidence locker in your precinct to see what else you stole.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
Nice try criminal. They released a picture they stole of a professor and tried to say he was a killer and that was why they committed murder. Those killed on the Flotilla were assassinated.
Guess that's a bad way to hide the truth? You Jewish Extremists will stoop to anything which is why we are working to put you in jail
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 So now you are fighting for information rights - you don want pictures and/or information disseminated? is that it - unless, that is, it is screened and bended to suit your message.
And sorry to disappoint you, I am not a Jewish Extremist - but it would suit your message to racially profile me, wouldn it?
Stick to the issues, rather than name-calling - it shows how prejudiced you really are.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
A battle zone in international waters, cutting off safety comms for a fight with women and children who are unarmed save for a few poles? 48 shot, it was unknown at the time how many were dead
I worked crime scenes in NYC for 30 years while you were sucking the Canadian titty, so your insult about war zones shows you are a clown.
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 Right, first its 18 people killed according to Al Jazeera, now the truth is far less.
Given your advanced age, where were you when the Brits stormed Panamanian registered boats on the high seas, and arrested and attacked immigrant women and children trying to make it to Palestine?
Given that Canadian forces have provided more peacekeeping troops, and lost far more than the police of NYC, I suggest your comment has no basis nor valifdity.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
I can't follow your nonsense, try punctuation and spell check
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@PRICK3
Prick, this confusion was caused by the Israeli media blackout, which, in itself, goes to show the extent to which Israel was making sure no one knew what they were really up to.
TheChutzpahGirl 1 year ago
@TheChutzpahGirl Who is confused? Al JAzeera reported inflated numbers of dead and wounded, totally misrepresenting the facts. Up to the minute action reports are much more exciting than real news, corroborated by factual investigation - which may take a little more patience - patience you seem to be without.
Don blame Israel for the dissemination of erroneous information - just continue to flog the hype.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@PRICK3 Better ask TheChutzpahGirl - she can have them vote on it at the next United Nations Security Council meeting. Perhaps they can come up with a number equal to the innocents killed in Ruanda.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@PRICK3 Maybe they got better after being killed. Afterall this is the middle east and things do not happen the way there that they do in other places.
CJFCarlsson 1 year ago
@PRICK3
aljazeera like all arab channels always tells the "truth" and the world always believes them. in 67 their channels reported a "victory" for Jordan and "wipe out" of israel off the map..
kadpw2 1 year ago
@PRICK3 about 3 quarters of a dozen
rahagbab 1 year ago
@rahagbab
Shush... Not every Youtube user knows fractions...
They might think it's *more* than a dozen.
PRICK3 1 year ago
aid is one thing, rockets are another, they had there warning, they ignored it, they paid the price
Sniz420 1 year ago 5
@Sniz420 Perhaps. Except the rest of the world and even many in the US don't see it that way.
ked1066 1 year ago
@ked1066
Pirates, that's all they are. Wimps too. Women took their guns and beat them up
So they killed 10 when they got their guns back and with a white flag
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@Sniz420
Like dropping the leaflets in Gaza huh killer?
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
go israel !!!
BLEST455 1 year ago 21
@BLEST455
go to jail!!!
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@BLEST455
Go straight to jail, do not pass go, don't steal $200 from America
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
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Eat that shit muslims:
Egypt banned hundreds of activists from Gaza
look for it.
VIVA ISRAEL!!!!!
the true voice.
yIsraeliMusic 1 year ago
fuck PALESTINIAN
roihaim 1 year ago
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Quran (9:10) " And they observe toward a believer neither pact nor honour. These are they who are transgressors. (10) "
Thats why Israel and sionist medias want to destroy Islam because God shows their real nature !!
nour7light 1 year ago
@lioruch You are probably exagerrating but think about this. about 80 of Ameircans are Christian. Some are wonderful people and some are serial killers bombers terrorists and the like, Green River Killer Timothy McVeigh, Klu Klux Klan of course, in some way the godfathers of terrorism, all considered themselves Christian. Does this make Christianity a bad religion
TemujinMSM 1 year ago
@TemujinMSM I spoke about extremists not about all the muslim people.. those who take the religion a little bit too far.(like bombing London, Russia, India,11\9 NY and of course Israel). for what? for getting attention?
And after this Israel is a terrorist.. yeah right.
lioruch 1 year ago
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Israel's government is a terrorist government. All Israels Prime Ministers have killed at least 15 people when they were a young member of Hanag terror organization.
roninaga 1 year ago
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In August 1896, bands of Turks patrolled the streets of Constantinople killing over 5000 Armenians. In All, the total toll from 1894 to 1896 is estimated at 100,000 non combatants killed, 50,000 dead from starvation, 40,000 forcibly converted to Islam and 100,000 driven into exile.
billyjakk 1 year ago
Unfortunately, the body count has been revised downward...
citizenintime 1 year ago
On July 22, 2008 and on March 5, 2009 an arab ran over 20 innocent israelis in Jerusalem with a traktor. No one said anything about it around the world. Last week 8 Jihad-related arabs died and the whole world acts like we minimum killed the pope. When all you Israel haters go to hell - be sure to say to Hitler that no one can destroy Israel and the Jewish people!!!!
RinD88 1 year ago
@RinD88
Isn't that what Hitler said about the Nazi regime? Moron.
toophatpoyo 1 year ago
@RinD88 Yes, no one can destroy Israel and the Jewish people... so long as they are backed by billions from the US each year. And since I am a US taxpayer, I am perfectibility entitled to criticize Israel's foreign policy debacles, such as this one, because they create for us a lot of blowback, violent and otherwise.
ked1066 1 year ago
@ked1066 Israelis just defend their citizens, & avoiding more bloodshed. Once the metal gets in the Gaza, they could become rockets to attack Israeli towns, then the israelis retaliate, & then Pali children are used as shileds, & then AlJazeera & CNN & you cry that children were killed . So conclusion : Israelis are protecting the lives of Pali- kids, before the damage is done.
4Tamashah 1 year ago
@4Tamashah
What a crock of Zionist shit!
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 Muhammad was the greatest pirot in the 6th Century. perhaps a Zionist did your mama in the ass, did that really hurt your eyes since you were in your mom's ass before you were born?
4Tamashah 1 year ago
@4Tamashah
seems like you were there. Do tell Mr turdly....
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 Yes, & I leftt my turd on Muhammad's beard, piss be upon him
4Tamashah 1 year ago
@4Tamashah
This is why people think you are a shit head. You can't justify child murders committed by the IDF so you give an insult.
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 .Israel is the best country & the IDF is a very kind.army.
4Tamashah 1 year ago
@4Tamashah
Are we speaking of the same IDF now under investigation for murder in Gaza as per Netanyahu at the White House?
Israel is the worst country, even worse than the USA in terms of crimes against humanity
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 Yes - as is a regular policy, the IDF and Israel government hold investigations into activities after a military operation - and lay charges where misconduct is uncovered (they do not hide the crimes, nor the results of their investigations).
I suggest you reread your history of the Vietnam War (especially the chapter on My Lai), perhaps the USA, like most countries at war, is equally as culpable for crimes of war?
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire
Again Vietnam, the changing the subject tactic...
"They do not hide investigations", the IDF. I think the trial in Haifa with Rachel Corries parents show they are lying cheating murderous thieves. And the Flotilla shows they are liars and high seas pirates.
And you are a loser treying to defend such shit
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 Not at all true - invoking an example to prove a point is a simple and valid method of logic, widely accepted, but not to you, as it spoils encumbers your thought processes, and destroys your argument.
Perhaps walking the beat in NYC for all those years has numbed you to rationality.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 Yes, we are talkiung about Israel the best country on earth.
4Tamashah 1 year ago
@4Tamashah
HAHAHAHA good one.......
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@4Tamashah Not sure I can agree with the IDF being a ḱind'army, since kindness is anathema to war and killing. To say that the IDF is moral, and ethical, would have to be stated in a context of comparison with other armies.
It is evident that Shayetet 13 is well equiped and well trained, but they were, in this instance, given the wrong expectations, evidenced by the use of color ball guns (not expecting the Mavi Marmara protesters to attack with weapons).
stephanepereire 1 year ago
@stephanepereire Israel is 100% correct!
4Tamashah 1 year ago
@RadioReporter01 Muhammad the false prophet was the biggest child murderer. & he abused little boys to satisfy his soldiers to spread Islam. The problem today is not Israelrather, it is Islam.
4Tamashah 1 year ago
@4Tamashah
What does Muhammad have to do with the crimes of Israel?
It's called I'm a little Zionist just changing the subject but alas this is not a board game sparky....
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
@ked1066
tell'em
RadioReporter01 1 year ago
Israel should have sunk the boats, killed all the terrorists, and then started bombing Turkey.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker Of course, that Turkey is a NATO member, US ally, and a supporter (at least heretofore) of Israel should not be cause for thought...
We should totally ignore that the vessels carried citizens of the US itself, and of other US allies... certainly we should pay no attention to the fact that one of the vessels flies a US flag. All things considered, clearly the sanest and most responsible response would have been all out war. Missed opportunity!
ked1066 1 year ago
@ked1066 War is never sane bub. There are assholes and idiots in every country including the United States, and Turkey. Isreal and it's current Prime Minister are finally fighting back against the scum that have been attacking them for at least 50 years, I don't blame them a bit, and I hope they continue to do so. It was raghead filth that were killed in this battle, not Israeli women and children. Maybe Isreal is finally starting to learn that lesson about war.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker Surely war is not sane. And surely the human condition can only get worse when people watch a youtube video or a news segment for all of 5 minutes and decide they know enough to pronounce death sentences, en masse.
But another point you made- this was a state of war? Six civilian vessels carrying civilians, including many women, with an entirely humanitarian cargo and no military weapons *at all*, a fact certified by numerous officials in numerous ports? What an odd armada
ked1066 1 year ago
@ked1066 Buddy I don't know where u have been, but the war against the Jews has been going on for at least 70 years. I've seen pics of the cargo on those ships that inclucded slingshots, ammo for them, gas masks, and cement for building hardend redoubts for rockets. Those terrorists don't wear uniforms, they hide behind women and children all the time, they strap bombs full of nails to children, and they don't care if they live or die. The only way to stop them is to kill them.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
Long Life Israel!
hamas is a terrorist organization,
own people killing and own
oppositon throwing from roofs of
the biuldings , it has nothing to
do with a democracy, this is just
a TERROR, palestinians themselves
are victims of these iranian
SLAVES! Long Life Israel!
Foresterback 1 year ago
so many lies.only 9 were killed and that was becase the soldiers were attacked with knives and metal rods.there was no white flag.
zigi531531 1 year ago
@zigi531531 , " Israel IS guilty till proven guilty"
droomerd 1 year ago
@zigi531531
Know your facts, nimrod. The people on board were arming themselves in case a fracas broke out. Use logic. If a gang of soldiers stormed onto your ship, would you not pick something up to defend yourself against MACHINE GUNS? I take it you're an Israeli supporter seeing that you're coming up with pathetic excuses to justify this act of terrorism?
toophatpoyo 1 year ago
israel is a terrorist state!!
aa2398a 1 year ago
Thank u al jazeera channel for covering this story on the spot, unlike ( al arabya or al ebreyah channel) . Al jazeera the most trusted news.
justicearso 1 year ago
What did the United States say?
Americans are too dumb to know this is where there money is going.
Sugarface011 1 year ago
@Sugarface011 It's hard to keep up with all of this, but the party line clearly is to voice regret over loss of life, caution against drawing conclusions prematurely, all while not criticizing Israel even implicitly. The reality, gathered from the subtext, seems to be that the Obama admin is absolutely furious w/ the Israelis. At least this is my perception.
ked1066 1 year ago
@ked1066 Its not hard to keep up with this. The facts are clear; Israel is commiting illegal crimes every hour of the day, the United states, loves war, loves power, loves money. The jews think they are the chosen people, they will kill anyone who stands in there way, as they have. The UN has ignored Israel because of the power the US holds, Americans are too stupid to realize your money is funding Israel, funding the war, funding the illegal acts of these criminals. Ur all sheep.
Sugarface011 1 year ago
@Sugarface011 I *meant* that it was hard to keep up with the specific utterances of the political machinery, because I thought you were asking an *honest* question, as opposed to contriving a pretext for hauling out the flamethrower. Anyway, while I've spent countless words on this and other threads decrying the actions & policies of Israel (& US), I find what you say to be more of the same ugly generalizations. Truth is even many Israeli's deplore the flotilla raid and condemn the blockade.
ked1066 1 year ago
Dozens killed..are you sure it's not hundreds...so called 'peace activists" got what they deserve
IDFrules 1 year ago 2
LIES!! all lies.
Israel is NEVER the aggressor!! It's always someone ELSE'S fault that we act like pirates and shoot at women children and elderly people on a boat in the middle of waters we have NO claim over!! You don't like that we kill innocent people? you MUST be a RACIST ANTI-SEMITIC PERSON!!
If Israel wanted to play the VICTIM card, why don't they wait for someone to go in THEIR waters and ATTACK THEM? you can't expect ppl to feel bad for you when you're the aggressor!
idiots
JLGprincess 1 year ago
always good to hear the other side.
NetPatriot 1 year ago
LIES !!! all lies.
Dear friends,
These "Activists" were hired guns by the IHH, an organization known to have links to terrorist groups. Their only intention was to create a provocation which will make Israel look bad.
The flotilla ships were offered the chance to come and have their cargo checked, yet they refused ! There is more aid being transported EVERY DAY to Gaza BY ISRAEL !!
Terrorists must know that no such attempts will go unanswered by Israel. EVER.
dugip 1 year ago
@dugip
And, pray tell, what did they find in those cargo? Bombs? AKs?
toophatpoyo 1 year ago
all in the name of euthanizing palestinians?Do we not have enuff problems in the middle east that we need the israelis to use violence against turks.Turks have been our one true ally in the mess over there.Try telling americans that only 3,000 people died on 9/11 when there could have been many more deaths; does this make it ok?
redray53064 1 year ago
Ne yazık ki Arduan sadece İsrail sadece kendi halkı ve Müslüman ülkeler arasında siyasi popülerlik kazanıyor için saldıran budur. Türkler-I yazık apaçık yönde ülke İran'a iki numaralı gidiyor
2nadya 1 year ago
The claimed "19 people" is not "dozens", and there were no 19 people - only 9 were killed.
ApocalypseBurakov 1 year ago
zga8 nice come back. really very nice i thought jews were meant to be smart
7Lawrence7 1 year ago
fuck you arabs
zga8 1 year ago
fuck you israel and Jews as well as being responsible for not eradicating Zionism.
marianostpc 1 year ago
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"The Turkish Islamic charity behind a flotilla of aid ships that was raided by Israeli forces on its way to Gaza had ties to terrorism networks, including a 1999 al-Qaida plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport, France's former top anti-terrorism judge said Wednesday."
YoISVerdad 1 year ago
Get the facts guys before you talk in such explosive matters
"Suicide Activists on the Gaza Flotilla" youtube.com/watch?v=jV6DVk04HkM
creatingfl 1 year ago
Maybe the IDF needs to release ALL the footage they have confiscated from activists and journalists, instead of the 3 or 4 highly selected minutes they want us to see. Then we can watch the whole episode and decide for ourselves.
ked1066 1 year ago
@ked1066 All I can say is that if there were NO footage whatsoever this entire incident would simply be accepted as excessive force on the part of the IDF. I am all for peaceful protests but if you start hitting armed soldiers with metal rods you get what you deserve. Sorry.
anooseholay 1 year ago
People need to look up the censored footage of this event so they can see the soldiers were attacked immediately upon boarding the vessel. The so called peace activists were looking for a fight. They should know that you don't bring metal rods to a gunfight.
anooseholay 1 year ago
@anooseholay Maybe they felt compelled to defend themselves, much in the same way the jews on the SS Exdous violently resisted british soldiers. Some of them were shot, too. Or maybe it's just as you say, they brought the wrong equipment to the fight.
ked1066 1 year ago
Isreal has the right to preserve itself. Producing and hitting the commandos with clubs is the exact same thing as pulling at a gun: its deadly force. if they were peaceful, they would have let the commandos board and inspect the ship. if they were stupid enough to attack the commandos, then they deserved what was coming for them.
evilclown9911 1 year ago
@evilclown9911 Maybe they felt compelled to act in self-defense. Similar to the jewish passengers on the SS Exodus, in 1947, who violently resisted when British soldiers tried to forcibly board their ship. So then you're saying that the passengers who were shot in that case also had it coming to them?
ked1066 1 year ago
@evilclown9911 And what were they preserving themselves against? Ships of unarmed civilians, many of them women, carrying cargo that was certified in numerous ports by numerous officials to be entirely humanitarian?
ked1066 1 year ago
@ked1066 Beating the soldiers with metal clubes does not make these people unarmed civilains. They rolled the dice when they attacked the soldiers and got what they got for it. Tough shit I say.
anooseholay 1 year ago
@anooseholay Yeah I thought about what you said and you're right- in every way. Like the Iranian protesters last summer, shot by Iranian state militia- got exactly what they asked for. Rowdy Vietnam protesters at Kent State- shot exactly as they deserved. Chinese dissidents in Tienanmen square... pow!
ked1066 1 year ago
@ked1066 You're comparing apples to oranges. I am not. The protestors you mentioned were all peaceful. The protestors on this boat were not as can be seen in many other videos. You start beating armed soldiers with metal rods and you take a chance on getting shot for your efforts.
anooseholay 1 year ago
@anooseholay Tell yourself that. Did you watch any of the video out of Tehran? The students at Kent St were throwing rocks. We have very little idea of what happened in China, because very little footage escaped. But it was bad. I could go on and on with this. There is always violence in organized protest, either intentional or not. The point in any *democratic* society is to allow dissenters expression while preventing escalation. The boarding was stupid deliberate escalation.
ked1066 1 year ago
So now 9 are dozens?
avinoam83 1 year ago
@avinoam83 No nine are not dozens. Perhaps a more observant eye would have noticed that this was posted four days ago, apparently just as the news was breaking. The poster of the video has not been active on the thread. Probably like so many, uh, contributors here, s/he is not interested in any substantial conversation, rather would just like to flame propaganda.
But then all of that didn't really need to be said, did it?
ked1066 1 year ago
open your eyes people, try to see both sides...
the people who died on this ship were 9 men who hit Israeli soldiers with
the intention of killing them. It is called self-defence.
I agree that the situation in Gaza must change, but is violent the answar?
ayel931 1 year ago
@ayel931 Maybe the IDF should have just stayed on the helicopter. Then the activists would have had no reason to feel they needed to defend themselves, and no way of harming the soldiers in any case.
ked1066 1 year ago
600 people in one boat to aid Hamas terror organization? Why not fill the ship with supplies?
Turkish Arduan wants to be in good touch with the new Hitler Ahmadi Nigad! And he needs to make Israel look bad in International eyes.
So He funds and send this crazy "Shahid" ship...
Than the world is mad about Israel.
And Muslims are happy filling now it is ok to go back to terror acts with the support of Eutopean Union Barak Obama and other so called westren countries.
PEOPLE DONT LET IN HAPPEN!
elielfassy 1 year ago
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Look at the following video, it reflects what really happened on the boat. watch?v=0LulDJh4fWI
p11ma 1 year ago
Funny how this video fail to give the viewer the real events. That's those people on the Marmara ship were Al Quiada opertvies, equiped with Ceramic plates, night vision, Gas masks, Iron rods, Knifves, and Fire arms. Funny how this video fail to mention that Israeli troops went on board with panitballs and not fire arms, and only when they were under direct risk a 2nd wave of troops landed with Pistols. Well what can u expect from arab propoganda?
StarBlackWolf 1 year ago
@StarBlackWolf Yeah. Interesting bunch of terrorists, don't you think? Civilians, many of them women, armed with no more than what you can find in my garden shed. Also the boats were certified numerous times in numerous ports to be carrying humanitarian cargo and no arms.
Now when I think of terrorists, I usually imagine masked men, cloaked in black and carrying machine guns. And now that you got me thinking about it, I did see some individuals like that in the video... I need rewatch
ked1066 1 year ago
FUCK ISRAEL
scheming8rythem 1 year ago
Arab journalist course – take the biggest liar and give him a microphone.
0xFFF0 1 year ago
TURN OUT THE TERRORISTS ON SHIP WERE TURKISH SOLDIERS !!!!
TURKEY SENT AIR FORCE PLANE TO BRING THEM BACK !!!!
THAT IS WHY TURKISH SO UPSET !!!
0xFFF0 1 year ago
There is no such thing PALEATINE-there is no arab it the world that really can say PALESTINE without saying BALESTINE -in arabic there is no word "P" -try to ask any arab to say PITA BREAD and he will say BITA BREAD they didnt gave the name PALESTINE the got it from the turkish and the british who brought some of them from lebanon syria egypt and the area to build the train that crossed israel.
ASK ANY " PALESTINIEN " - ABOUT HIS PAST: WHO WHERE HIS LEADERS -AND HE WONT HAVE ANY ANSWER!!
drezner1 1 year ago
Kill DOZENS. You liars.
joe4785 1 year ago
The arabs are not united, they are selfish, not willing to help one another, or perhaps afraid to do so.
All they do if form groups and pages on facebook to boycott Israel, little do they know that facebook itself is Israel.
seg3125 1 year ago
"as soon as the IDF came in down they started to shot all over without provocation we just stood still and used no violence"
LOL
you cant hide the truth !
MUSLIMS =terror ! 9/11,mumbai india,beslan attack in russia,thailand attacks,nigeria,paris,madrid subway,israel,luxor massacre,2007 Glasgow International Airport attack ,,,,,,, ISLAM=terror !
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 year ago
In fact, the most outspoken critics of Israel, like Iran and other Arab countries, are also the countries with the worst human rights records, and yet they have the nerve to criticize Israel when it acted in self-defence. This hypocrisy is glaring in your eyes!
I stand with Israel!
chesterlover4eva 1 year ago 2
@chesterlover4eva Which is the real irony. Because what we saw happen on those ships is exactly the same type of scene that played out between the Iranian green revolutionaries and the armed forces in Tehran last summer.
ked1066 1 year ago
Israel has a right to self-defence, whether you hypocrites like it or not!
Let’s ask the self-righteous people of Turkey about the Genocide they committed against the Armenian people... The Turkish people still refuse to acknowledge that they massacred the Armenian people.
chesterlover4eva 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Are you American? If so I'd like to ask you about the organized slaughter and dispossession of Native Americans. Also, the organized enslavement of Africans, which require an entire civil war & untold bloodshed before it was decided that maybe that wasn't the right way to behave toward other humans.
ked1066 1 year ago
For God's sake!! No one says this is right or good, your not some angel come to teach us that killing is bad. WE KNOW. Israel tries everything to prevent civilian deaths, but its kinda hard when psychos willing to die in order to kill you are throwing themselves in your face, or naive Americans are throwing themselves in front of bulldozers. Did you know that Corrie's parents were almost kidnapped during their stay in Gaza. I wish it happened-it really would've woken them up.
pshapiro1029 1 year ago
@pshapiro1029 I'm not trying to teach him that killing is bad. I would hope that goes unsaid. The point of the post, if i need to spell it out, was to illuminate hypocrisy and inconsistency. If, because of previous war or atrocity, then no group of people could ever take a moral stand, then we would live in a totally amoral world. The turks certainly are guilty genocide. But of course none of these turks or any people involved were even alive then. Make sense now?
ked1066 1 year ago
Well-meaning but totally misdirect people like you are going to sit and ponder, and criticize, and condemn until one day Islamic extremists are going to get their hands on nuclear weapons from Pakistan or Iran and millions of lives will be on your hands. It doesn't have to be this way. Let's focus on the real problem. When millions of Muslims no longer want to murder us, then we can talk about how Israel can be more sensitive and do more to avoid civilian death. To do so beforehand is absurd
pshapiro1029 1 year ago
@pshapiro1029 So until we convince muslims to forgo violence, we are justified in our own violence - even when it kills civilians? Any chance that the killing of muslim civilians will convince other muslims that the only option is violence?
ked1066 1 year ago
OK we're getting somewhere. Yes, until someone stops trying to kill you, you are in fact justified in using violence to protect yourself even when it kills civilians, the very same civilians that dance and sing in the streets when a commuter bus blows up in Jerusalem. I don't know what will convince Muslims. I wish I did. Maybe nothing will, maybe its part of Islam, I really don't know. Are you starting to understand?
pshapiro1029 1 year ago
@pshapiro1029 Again, condescending. I'll look past it, again... I would suggest that Maybe we can convince some or even most of them with a land agreement. It is after all the foundation of their anger. Of course we will never convince all, and some will resort to violence. Which is one of the reasons Israel will not dismantle the settlements, they know that certain Israelis will oppose that with violence.
ked1066 1 year ago
A land agreement eh? Yep, that worked at Camp David right? How can you really think that when they have rejected a deal again and again. We JUST gave back Gaza!!!
OK but forget that I want to hear you substantiate you comparison between the SS Exodus and the Mavi Marmara. Go ahead, I'm all ears.
pshapiro1029 1 year ago
And yet the very people who threaten and attempt a genocide of Jews virtually every day ARE alive, and yet these are the very people you want us to provide with open ports and open borders. USE. YOUR. BRAIN. PLEEEEAAAAASEE.
pshapiro1029 1 year ago