Final continuation: Bluegsp believes that enlistment in military service does not include mandates. He believes that you can just volunteer and leave when you like with no consquences. He believes that America is 'liberating' middle eastern countries by occupying and controlling them for a decade. He believes that our government is not run by lobbyists and money. He believes questioning the government, criticizing the military and protecting the integrity of the constitution is 'unAmerican'.
Cont'd: Bluegsp consistenly said that Nazi Germany worshipped Hitler, providing many quotes of orders to do so, and yet never showing a study (like I did, that showed over 98% of Nazi Germany was Christian). He instead preferred to call me an idiot and a liar and a hypocrite. Clearly from all the jumping from argument to argument, bluegsp was grasping at straws. It's okay to be wrong bluegsp. It helps you to make better choices and speak with clear articulation. Maybe one day you'll realize this
@CK3890 Not to mention Hitler himself was devoutly Catholic, something that discomforts religious people and they've tried to recast him as an atheist.
Cont'd: Bluegsp claimed that George Washington was wrong when he said that political parties will ruin this country's government. I asked him repeatedly how he is wrong and how political parties do not hamper individual thinking and how political parties do not siphon loyalty from the country they claim to represent. His reponse was, over and over, that he is just plain wrong and political parties encourage individual thought (ie. just refuted what I said and calling it 'fact').
And to conclude: Bluegsp had no argument for how Nazis were left-wing. He clearly demonstrated that they spoke of being left-wing, but speaking and being aren't the same thing. Bluegsp consistently called me a liar when I said I meant conservative and progressive should be used as adjectives, not nouns, because no one is entirely one way or the other. He had no rebuttal to this other than to keep calling me a liar, and then proceeded to tell me I'm looking for typos.
And to clarify my position on the troops. I do not support American military commanders. The troops have no choice. They are property of the USA. The commanders and their higher-ups are the ones profitting off the deaths of millions of people. There is nothing more American than criticizing your government. That is the principle that this country was founded on.
@CK3890 Of course the troops have a "choice", its a volunteer Service, moron. Do you even read the stupidity that you write? Who is "profiting"? You are insane.
"Just because" I provide the evidence and facts is what proves me right, idiot. Your entire argument consists of "nu-huh". You really are a pathetically ignorant Anti American liberal Fuck aren't you?
@bluegsp Its a volunteer service to become enlisted. Once you are enlisted, it's not longer voluntary, it's mandatory. Any 10 year old knows this... Who is profitting? We already went over this. Halliburton mostly. My entire argument consists of nu-uh? Really? You are 100% senile. Congratulations.
@CK3890 Yes, it is volunteer, and every volunteer knows they have to follow orders, every 5 year old knows this. Enlistments are up, re enlistments are at an all time high, volunteers for multiple tours of Iraq and Afghanistan are way up. Thank God Halliburton is there making life easier for our troops, if they make a paulty 3.5% profit, more power to them and their investors which include teachers, police, firefighters, and about anyone else who has a 401K or IRA. You are retarded.
@CK3890 I have given you several examples you simpleton. And yes a "volunteer" does have to do "shit", moron, once they volunteer. We are not talking about a church bake sale, we are talking about volunteering to enter into a contract to exchange service for compensation. Man are you fucking retarded.
You are the one that is disgusting. I suggest if you don't like the American way of life, you get on a boat to Cuba, dickhead.
@bluegsp You haven't given one example. Exactly. A volunteer is no longer a volunteer when they voluntarily sign a contract. Then they are a contractor. This is business 101. After you sign the contract, it's no longer voluntary but mandatory. I can't believe how stupid you are.
I love the American way of life. You're building another strawman argument. I do not like the government of America: that is my right and my obligation to this nation's citizens.
@CK3890 You are fucking retarded. I have given dozens of examples of Nazi policy that mirror the Democrat party platform, Quotes from Hitler and Nazi party officials that prove that they are leftist socialists. A volunteer is always a volunteer and the fact that they re enlist and re volunteer for multiple tours of duties prove that you are an idiot. The government of America is by the people, so if you don't like the government, you don't like America.
@bluegsp No, you are fucking retarded. Those are examples of what you think is correct. I said point out examples of my stupidity, lies or hypocrisy and you have not. I've told you many times, it does not matter what they preached because the Nazis were both facist and totalitarians. Preaching is saying what you want to do. Being is what you do. There is a difference being saying and doing. You can talk the talk but you can't walk the walk etc... Why don't you respond to this point ever?
@CK3890 Bull shit, moron, I gave you facts and quotes, not opinion, like you. You have to be dumbest son of a bitch I have ever seen. every thing you say is an example of your lies, stupidity and hypocrisy. You don't even understand what a volunteer is. My god, are you even able to feed yourself with this kind of stupidity? People know what they are Volunteering for the military means, you don't get to "vote" on your orders, how fucking stupid are you?
@bluegsp and WOW. LOL. You helped my argument here. Exactly, they don't get to vote on their orders. That means their orders are mandatory, they can't choose to do something else. Voluntary implies they did it out of their own volition. Ever heard these words? Volition? Mandatory?
@CK3890 Yeah, that's how it has always worked, moron and yet they still volunteer to serve and re enlist and they do so of their own "volition'. XD Jackass. Just because you volunteer for military service does not mean you are qualified to debate objectives. You volunteer to be told what to do. I can't believe how stupid you are. What a moron. XD
@bluegsp I've never heard of anyone calling military service 'volunteer work'. Its because it's your duty. Once you volunteer to enlist, you don't have the choice to just quit. They can either discharge you or you can go AWOL and get put in prison. Does Red Cross do this? How about Salvation Army? Again I suggest you look up the words mandatory and volition.
I also suggest you give up. We keep changing arguments because you aren't responding to my rebuttals with anything but 'LIAR! IDIOT!'
@CK3890 Try Goggling "Volunteer Military" and let me know what you find. I know what the words "mandatory" and "volition" mean, but it is clear that you do not.
I have responded to all of your rebuttals with hard facts, I can't help it if those facts expose you for the lying idiot that you are.
@bluegsp If you actually read our arguments, you'd see that you responded to many a tenth of the rebuttals I've had, and even when you did respond, it wasn't with 'hard facts', it was with irrelevant bullshit. I'm seriously done talking to you. Anyone who wasted their time reading this shit will know who is the dumbass and who has common sense. Goodbye and good riddance.
@bluegsp LAST ONE, LOLOLOL. I just looked up Volunteer Military and guess what the FIRST sentence said in the article I found? Better yet, I'll copy and paste. "A volunteer military or all-volunteer military is one which derives its manpower from volunteers rather than conscription or mandatory service." Keywords: RATHER, MANDATORY SERVICE
You have proven yet again that you either have zero comprehension skills or that you are clincally insane. Have a nice life.
@bluegsp Here's another analogy. If a judge sentences you to volunteer work, do you think that volunteer work isn't mandatory because it's called 'volunteer work'? Try thinking a little before formulating responses.
@bluegsp I was sentenced to volunteer work when I was 17. I worked at Salvation Army Thrift Store in Downers Grove, IL. and again, if I wasn't winning this argument, you wouldn't have to say it.
@bluegsp Lol again you call me stupid and a liar and yet somehow can't come up with any reasons except that you have 'destroyed and humilated me'. Sorry to break it to you, YET AGAIN, but just saying it doesn't make it so. Kinda like the 'left-wing Nazis' lol
@CK3890 Yeah, that is why I call you a stupid liar because I have backed up every assertion I have made and you have failed to make a single point. You are the weakest kind of idiot, because your stupidity is beyond any kind of defense. I have never seen a more anti intelligent argument from anyone. You have to be too stupid to tie your own shoes.
@bluegsp You don't understand. I never said these people aren't volunteers. They volunteer to become US property. If you don't believe that you are US property when enlisted, slap yourself in the face or go talk to the nearest vet and ask them. Once you are enlisted, you have no choice what you are going to do. They tell you what to do and if you don't abide you are punished. This is military 101. The government of America is by the people? Naiive much? The government of America is by graft.
@bluegsp And you cleary don't understand the document I had been referring to (the US constitution). I love America because I have the right to criticize my government without punishment. The CONSTITUTION is by the people for the people, not the government. The constitution protects us from government imposing their will upon an unwilling public.
And if you had really 'PWND' me, lol faggot, you wouldn't need to say it.
@CK3890 You are an uneducated, lying, un American, hypocritical, stupid, delusional shit stain that people should just spit on as they walk past. I have never talked to a more dense and ignorant moron than you.
You have been PWND, destroyed and humiliated, jack ass, now go fuck yourself.
Both bluegsp and brdj010 are completely braindead. They have no arguments, they just continue to post the same undeveloped crap, thinking that if they keep repeating themselves enough, that'll make them right. They also use words like stupid liberal as a defense mechanism when they realize they have absolutely no substance in their words.
They are very sad and are clearly very uneducated. I hope that one day they both understand that people are individuals. Not progressive or conservative.
It's hilarious how many fear-driven retards think that socialism and communism are the same thing. America has been socialist for a very long time. There's medicare, social security, socialized water, socialized mail system (USPS), socialized public schools (taxes), socialized gyms (city recreational centers), and of course socialized libraries.
Please people, learn the meanings of words before using them (especially in a negative context).
@Brdj010 When did I say Reagan was a socialist? I said just the opposite you simpleton. TYT never said he was either. I said that Reagan has made socialism seem like a poison.
@syzygy502 They were communists and the countries they lived in were called communist countries. That is because communism doesn't work in the real world. Communism is a fairy tale.
@syzygy502 Nazi's were left wing socialists, your ignorant moron. "National Socialist Workers Party" ie the Nazi Party preached class warfare, the working class to resist ``exploitation'' by capitalists. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries.They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics.
@bluegsp You're a complete idiot. Yes they disguised themselves as left wing, but nationalism and facism seek to control every aspect of it's citizen's lives. It doesn't get more right wing that that. You think encouraging porn and abortion makes them left wing liberals? And they did not denounce Christians, they claimed to be Christians. You know absolutely nothing and are in no position to call anyone an 'ignorant moron'. Go troll somewhere else.
@CK3890 "Disguised themselves"? Really? You really are delusional. XD It is the Right that advocates freedom and personal responsibility. It is the Left that wants to regulate and tax every aspect of your life. Yes, advocating porn and abortion makes them left wing liberals. Martin Bormann, also declared that "National Socialism [Nazism] and Christianity are irreconcilable" Hitler declared Nazism the state religion and the Bible was replaced by Mein Kampf in the schools. You are an idiot
@CK3890 "Disguised themselves"? Really? You really are delusional. XD It is the Right that advocates freedom and personal responsibility. It is the Left that wants to regulate and tax every aspect of your life. Yes, advocating porn and abortion makes them left wing liberals. Martin Bormann, also declared that "National Socialism [Nazism] and Christianity are irreconcilable" Hitler declared Nazism the state religion and the Bible was replaced by Mein Kampf in the schools. You are an idiot
@bluegsp They disguised themselves with propaganda and preaching the things you listed. They were also fiercely against the Communists, communists are far left. It matters not what Hitler declared, "The German census of May 1939 indicates that 54 percent of Germans considered themselves Protestant and 40 percent considered themselves Catholic, with only 3.5 percent claiming to be neo-pagan "believers in God," and 1.5 percent unbelievers. This census came more than six years into the Hitler era"
@bluegsp They disguised themselves with propaganda and preaching the things you listed. They were also fiercely against the Communists, communists are far left. It matters not what Hitler declared, "The German census of May 1939 indicates that 54 percent of Germans considered themselves Protestant and 40 percent considered themselves Catholic, with only 3.5 percent claiming to be neo-pagan "believers in God," and 1.5 percent unbelievers. This census came more than six years into the Hitler era"
@bluegsp Regardless of all that, any state that is that totalitarian and facists is clearly right wing. Hitler declared these things to again, disguise themselves as rational, trustworthy people. The Nazis used a lot of deceit, didn't you ever learn that in school?
@CK3890 Yeah, the Nazi's wore a lot of "disguises". XD You really are an idiot. XD It is not "regardless of all that", it is because of all that that proves that Nazi's were left wing socialists. Conservative and Progressive are nouns when they are used to describe people who adhere to those principles. (buy a dictionary, dumb ass)
Only un principled ill informed morons don't adhere to parties because they don't know how to think for themselves.
@bluegsp Yes, they did. That proves Nazi's were left wing socialists. WHAT proves? You are more vague about your arguments than your insults LOL. I don't know where you went to school, totalitarianism and facism are both on the right side of the political spectrum.
I realize they are nouns, I was saying that they shouldn't be. No one is completely one way or another. They should be adjective and adjectives only. LOL adhering to your party's view is TOTALLY thinking for yourself. You got it.
@bluegsp Yes, they did. That proves Nazi's were left wing socialists. WHAT proves? You are more vague about your arguments than your insults LOL. I don't know where you went to school, totalitarianism and facism are both on the right side of the political spectrum.
I realize they are nouns, I was saying that they shouldn't be. No one is completely one way or another. They should be adjective and adjectives only. LOL adhering to your party's view is TOTALLY thinking for yourself. You got it.
@CK3890 I'm sorry, I didn't know you had such poor comprehension skills. That's my fault, I should have deduced that from the stupidity of your posts. Everything I showed you proves that the Nazi's were left wing. You didn't say that they "shouldn't" be nouns, you said "These are adjectives anyways, not nouns." so you are a lying idiot as well. You don't know what Washington's "dying wish was", he commented about parties in his farewell address, but he has been wrong for over 200 years.
@bluegsp How the hell can you answer like that? You truly think Nazis were left-wing?? Please stop making yourself like a fool. They were right-wing fascists. You should be ashamed. I am an independent by the way loyal to my country and the President. I was hoping George Bush would succeed, although I knew better. You need to be loyal to America and not your racist teabagger friends.
@syzygy502 "Racists"? You just continue to pull shit out of your ass don't you? Independents are idiots, but you are even too stupid to be an independent, you are a liberal. Time to take your crazy pills.
@bluegsp Orderlies??? Who the heck are they? Your friends? I consider that a threat as well. However, you can threaten me all you want, you just can't threaten the love of my life.
@syzygy502 The orderlies are the nice gentlemen in the white coats that will help you with your coat with the long sleeves that fasten in the back, before they take you to your room with the nice soft walls.
@bluegsp So why are you up at 3:30 in the morning. That just proves that you don't have a life. Why the hell would I want someone to help with my coat? That's what I don't understand. Of course, I don't expect a Neo-Nazi like you to comprehend like that. After all, conservative and Nazi are the same thing.
@bluegsp I said I MEANT they shouldn't be. Meaning I wasn't lying, I just wasn't clear enough for you to understand my point. And you STILL haven't shown me how what you said makes them left wing. No matter what you say, totalitarianism and facism will still be right wing. And yes, he mentioned it in his farewell address, but it was also his dying wish. He has been wrong? You're saying political parties don't hamper individual opinion? They aren't more loyal to their party than their country?
@CK3890 Yeah, everyone caught lying and saying stupid shit always say they didn't mean it. You were very clear and I understood exactly what you meant. Again, you don't know what Washington's dying wish was, more than likely it was "I wish I weren't about to die". Yes he has been wrong. 200 plus years have passed and America has not been destroyed. Individuals are free in this country to vote for who ever they choose. You probably have never voted, but their is a long list of candidates.
@bluegsp I didn't say I didn't mean it, I do mean it. I said I meant that they shouldn't be used as nouns, and anyone with a 3rd grade reading ability could understand what I was saying. If you knew what I meant, you wouldn't have said anything like 'look them up in the dictionary'. Who's the liar now? I'm sure Washington didn't want to die, but I've read in two different biographies that he wrote a final memo to the American public restating his wish. America has been destroyed.
@CK3890 Yes, everyone could understand what you are saying and it is a lie and very stupid. You said they were adjectives not nouns, I told you they were nouns and that you should "buy" a dictionary because you don't know what you are talking about. You are still the liar. (its good that you keep checking, though). America has not been destroyed and I have given obvious examples of that. There are many more than two political parties and there membership demonstrates their popularity.
@bluegsp HAHAHA you say you knew what I meant, and yet you're still calling me a liar. I said, for the the third time now, that I meant they shouldn't be used as nouns because no one, and I repeat, NO ONE, is absolutely progressive or conservative. This means I wasn't lying, I merely chose the wrong words. And if it's very stupid, why cannot you not formulate even a single sentence as to why it is very stupid? America, as it used to be, certainly has been destroyed. Lobbyists govern us now.
@CK3890 There is no question what you meant, you are only trying to cover up for it because I called you out on it. So, yes you were lying, just like when you pretended to know George Washington's "dying wish". People like you, lie without even know they are lying. You don't speak from facts or truth, you speak from what you wish were true. America has not been destroyed and I have given common sense examples of it (that is the "why" part of my argument that you falsely claim doesn't exist)
@bluegsp There are only two parties than get ever hold a majority in congress or get elected to executive positions, and that demonstrates nothing except that they have too much power. Popularity? hahaha you're more delusional than I previously thought.
@CK3890 Lobbyists are nothing more than representatives of people common interests petitioning the government on their behalf (like the teachers union) They have been around since Washington and have not "destroyed" the country. The two parties are get most of the votes because they represent a majority of the peoples views. Everyone is free to vote for who they like as I said before. As I said before, I have destroyed every false assertion you have made.
@CK3890 If I did not believe my party was right, I would not be a member of it. Of course we have history on our side proving us right. And yes, when a stupid independent doesn't vote, that vote does not count. Most people would consider this stuff common sense. Please explain how the elections are "rigged".
My arguments are valid and like I said, "easily verifiable". I don't remember a single source from you. That is what is really funny, your lack of understanding of hypocrisy and irony.
@bluegsp They are free to vote yes, but you're missing the point. The two parties have made it impossible for anyone else to get elected, and the two parties work together to keep it that way. Individual opinions are forfeited CONSTANTLY by politicans who don't want to quote "commit political suicide" or in layman's terms, disagree with their party's popular opinion.
America has been destroyed in that our government doesn't even read legislation, let alone make it. That's done by lobbyists.
@CK3890 The person with the most votes, (electoral in the case of the presidency) gets elected. The parties do not work together, they each work to win. You are not very bright are you? China is not a superpower, look it up. "Long past its prime"? What planet do you live on? Independents are idiots and give no thought to politics or they would align themselves with like minded people and join a party. Every point I have made is valid and verifiable. You are the idiot.
@bluegsp LOL this is the best argument I've ever seen. You basically took everything I said and said the opposite without a single argument as to why any of this is not true. Just like you did not formulate a single argument of why not using conservative and progressive as nouns is very stupid. It is purely because you have no argument. You never did. You're just a wannabe know it all who is hell bent on his party being right in every way shape and form and anyone who disagrees is an idiot.
@bluegsp Again I ask. You're saying political parties don't hamper individual opinion? They aren't more loyal to their party than their country? How was Washington wrong whatsoever?
@bluegsp The one part I will agree with you is that the independents are naive about the political system. But, I would rather be an independent than a Neo-Nazi conservative. The independent party of old was supposed to be a party where you didn't have to be held on a certain political platform. The Democrats are the only party in America now that even cares about the people. I used to be a republican to let you know until 2003 when they started the Iraq War.
@bluegsp The Democrats are actually working for the people. The independents used to be a good party until they started joining the neo-Nazi conservative clan. The CONservatives and republitards are simply ruining our social and economic status. It is amazing that all of you are exactly the same. You name-calling and slander, you threaten and bully people who don't have the upper-class status or a coincidal view of your politics. Either start being an American, or leave. I love America too much.
@syzygy502"the democrats are actually working for the people" HAHA That is the oldest and dumbest myth there is. Democrats want to enslave you to government dependency from cradle to grave. They don't want anyone to succeed in life, because the more you make and save, the more they want to take. But then again, you are really too retarded to understand any of this. XD
@bluegsp Humiliated and destroyed? HAHAHAHA Let's make analogy. I'm a witness testifying against you. After my testimony is completed, you stand up in your chair and scream LIAR! IDIOT!
That's your entire argument. That I'm stupid and wrong. You haven't even used the word BECAUSE in one of your comments for Christs sake. This is the saddest argument I have ever been a part of and you are clearly completely brainwashed and there is absolutely no hope for you. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
@bluegsp Republicans and democrats have single-handedly ruined this country. We are going in the shitter because you fools care more about money and power than you do protecting the constitution and the jurisprudence it has clearly outlined. Independents are the only sensible politically-minded people. Republicans and democrats are both equally retarded.
@CK3890 This country is not "ruined". We are still the greatest nation on earth (even Obama admitted that last night) and the worlds only superpower. Independents are morons who don't give politics any thought. When things aren't going well, they vote for the guy who says 'Change", when things are OK, they vote for the guy already in office. (that's how Clinton got two terms thanks to Reagan) I think you are retarded.
@bluegsp China is the world's superpower buddy. America is long past it's prime. Independents give politics plenty of thought, are you kidding? Independent refers to someone not in a political party. Meaning they actually care for the country, and don't want to further normalize the partisan bullshit that has and still is ruining this country. I think you're the biggest idiot I've ever met on youtube and you have not made a single valid statement. Nazis are left wing. LOL
@bluegsp And independents rarely vote, because of the two party dictatorship America has, but when they do, it's usually for independents as well. Good try retard. Let's see what new argument you drool out next. I love making you eat your own words.
@CK3890 If independents "rarely vote", than they are the problem for not participating in the process. They don't vote because they are uninformed of the issues and are not interested. My arguments are valid and based in fact, yours are ill informed conspiracy based opinionated nonsense. Washington was wrong because this country has continued to grow, prosper and become the envy of the world with the political system that he and the founding fathers set in place.
@bluegsp They are the problem for not participating in the process. WHY? AGAIN, your arguments are more vague than your insults.... They don't vote because they know their votes don't count. The elections are rigged in favor of whoever has made the most payoffs. That's just politics. Get over it. LOL Your arguments are so valid and based in fact that you can't explain why they are or even cite a source. Got news for you, if your arguments were so valid you wouldn't have to say it. LOL
@bluegsp Washington never said that America wouldn't grow or prosper, you are building a strawman argument here. I said that Washington wanted political parties abolished because they hamper individual thought and siphon loyalty from the country to the party. And you STILL, after about three replys, have not told me how that is wrong in any way shape or form. You just keep saying "Washington was wrong. You're wrong. You're stupid. I'm always right. I don't have to explain why either."
@CK3890 "Destroy" is the prevention of growth and prosperity, you moron. That is not a "straw man argument", it is a factual rebuttal to a false assertion.
I have explained your lies and stupidity point by point and like the brain dead liberal that you are, you only hear what you want to hear and continue to lie.
You are stupid and we have thoroughly demonstrated that.
@bluegsp Jesus Christ man, do you remember questioning my comprehension skills? This is the second time you have failed to grasp any contextual information. If you read that no one is really progressive or conservative the first time you'd have understood that I knew it was a noun, and that I thought it was a bit of a misnomer in all cases, and could and should be used only as an adjective. That's just an opinion and you attempted to turn it into a debate.
@CK3890 Of course people are conservative and progressive, that is why they are nouns. You continue to just pull bullshit out of your ass and act like an idiot when you are called on your lies and stupidity. Government is not destroyed, it is working just as it was designed to. What makes you think I don't know anything about "military spending" (which was only about 20% of the budget in 2010)? The bailouts are a misuse of tax money, but that is why we hold elections.
@bluegsp "People are conservative and progressive" You used adjectives without even realizing it. You continue to just call me stupid and a liar, without any substance to any argument you've attempted to make. The government isn't working whatsoever. They move only when lobbyists want them to move. I have no proof of this, and you have no proof of the latter, but the circumstances definitely point in my directions. Let's not talk about that, neither of us can back up what we said.
@CK3890 I never said that "conservative" and "progressive" were not adjectives. You are the one who said that they were not "nouns", which is a lie.
So you consider supporting our troops, "murder". It appears that you are an Un American piece of shit. America has never been "occupiers", we have always been "liberators'. Too much stupidity to cover it all, but you get the point, you are a ignorant,lying hypocritical stupid, liberal, shit stain. XD
@bluegsp No shit sherlock. Read your comment. You said that your sentence shows that they are nouns, even though you used the words as adjectives. I never said you said they weren't adjectives. We are occupying both Afghanistan and Iraq STILL, and Libya is soon to be on the list. And I support the troops that actually liberate people from oppression, but I don't support the troops as a whole because most of them are carrying out murders in the name of money and oil.
@CK3890 No, you were the one that said they weren't "nouns". We are not "occupying' anywhere. Afghanistan and Iraq have their own governments and want us there to kill terrorists. No troops are 'carrying out murder", you are an Anti American shit stain for even saying that. Obama just gave a medal of honor to Marine yesterday for rescuing a bunch of Afghan and American soldiers trying to help "repair a mosque" and walked into an ambush. How is that for an example, jackass.
@bluegsp Still looking for typos huh? Yes. I admitted I said that. I also said that that was not what I meant. So we're not occupying Iraq or Afghanistan. We're just liberating them for a decade. LOL "Afghanistan and Iraq have their own governments and want us there to kill terrorists." I'm sorry but that didn't make sense and I don't know what you MEANT to say. Are you kidding? There are tens of thousands of soldiers who admit they murdered innocent people, and many committ suicide over it.
The Twenty-Five Theses of the German Religion, Thesis XV of that Nazi publication states: "The Ethic of the German Religion condemns all belief in inherited sin, as well as the Jewish-Christian teaching of a fallen world. Such a teaching is not only non-Germanic and non-German, it is immoral and nonreligious. Whoever preaches this menaces the morality of the people."
@CK3890 NO, Nazis did not identify themselves as Christians. But again, that is a Red Herring. Obama identifies himself as Christian, so does Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and Bill Clinton. Are you saying that they are right wing Nazi's as well? See how stupid you are? Every thing I have said proves that they are left wing socialists, their party platform is almost identical to the Democrats. I have rebutted everything you have said (or more accurately, "not said").
@bluegsp LOL again, calling me a liar. Just saying it doesn't make it so. I showed you a study, you have shown me a denial. No I am not saying they are Nazis (and you don't have to say right wing, Nazis were right wing). Everything you have said proves nothing other than you are so brainwashed you don't realize that making a statement doesn't equal proof. LOL Nazis are identical to democrats. All it is with you is partisan bullshit. For the last time, republicans and democrats are both retarded.
@CK3890 You are a liar. I have backed up everything I have said, you have given nothing but ill informed opinion. I have given you facts about the Nazi party that prove that they were left wing socialists, you say they "disguised" themselves, and "there were some Christians in Germany so they must have been right wing" You are a complete dumbass and have totally embarrassed yourself on this thread.
@bluegsp Again I ask, show me ONE example of my lies, hypocrisy or stupidity. Or one example of even ONE time that you demonstrated anything (not just saying it).
@bluegsp You've backed up nothing. Not a damn thing. I've asked you to give many examples and you refuse because you know you haven't backed up anything. You obviously have an extremely unwarranted ego, and you cannot deal with being wrong. I'm done talking to you. You clearly don't realize that in making mistakes we become wiser. Good luck to you.
@Brdj010 Since I'm feeling generous I'll explain the difference yet again. Socialism is when SOME of the means of production is divided PROPORTIONALLY to those who paid into. Communism is when ALL of the means of production is divided EQUALLY to everyone, regardless of who contributed. So you see, if all the means of production (fully socialist) were divided, proportions would not mattter, because EVERYONE had paid into it. A country cannot be fully socialist. It can be fully comunist though.
@CK3890 "Backed up nothing"? Here is another example of your lies, jackass. I have given loads of examples and all you say is "just cause you say it doesn't make it so". You are a retarded little child and if you had any intelligence at all, you would be totally embarrassed and humiliated by now.
@bluegsp That was your ONLY example and it didn't back up anything because I showed you a conflicting study and showed you how it was irrelevant. Leaders are not the entire group they represent. And the people that the Nazi leaders represented were overwhelmingly Christian. Try again moron.
@bluegsp That's an example yes. I already said that there are some troops I support, but the troops as a whole I do not. I don't support the murder of millions of innocent people and you're a bad American for not agreeing.
@CK3890 In February 1937 Hanns Kerrl, Minister of Religion in the Third Reich, said:
"The question of the divinity of Christ is ridiculous and inessential. A new answer has arisen as to what Christ and Christianity are: Adolph Hitler."
University Nazis in Keil wrote in 1935: "We Germans are heathens and want no more Jewish religion in our Germany. We no longer believe in the Holy Ghost; we believe in the Holy Blood."
@bluegsp And if you knew ANYTHING about the document that makes our country great, then you'd know that my questioning the government and criticizing our military is about the most American thing you can do. America was founded because we questioned the British government. You're an idiot. And again, show me ONE example of any lies, stupidity or hypocrisy. Just one. I dare you.
@bluegsp And again, I did not MEAN to say they weren't nouns literally, I meant to say that they shouldn't be used as nouns. And even if I didn't correct myself, it wouldn't be a lie, it would just be an incorrect statement. You clearly can't tell the difference. I can see you're still searching for typos because you have absolutely no argument. Care to talk more about left-wing Nazis? LOL
@CK3890 Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist ``exploitation'' by capitalists -- particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Dumbass. XD
@bluegsp LOL I'm the dumbass? It does not mean shit what Hitler preached. The Nazi party still was facist and used totalitarianism to stay in power. Nothing you say will change the fact that facism and totalitarianism are on the FAR RIGHT of the political spectrum. Class warfare is not progressive or conservative anyways and nationalism is far right. They encourage porn and abortion of non-aryans not for progressive reasons but to fufill Hitler's idea of a master race.
@CK3890 Göring ordered that the Hitler Gruss (the Hitler salute) was the only religious gesture allowed.
In 1937 Stephen H. Roberts wrote in his book, The House That Hitler Built, that the hostility between Nazism and churches began as soon as the Nazis came to power, and that it quickly became impossible to be a good Catholic and a good Nazi.
Everything I have said proves that the Nazi's were left wing socialists, DUMBASS!
@bluegsp Nothing you have said proves Nazis were left-wing socialists. EVERYTHING you said was dismantled by myself and you CLEARLY have no rebuttal to anything I said.
@bluegsp And they did not denounce Christians at all. As I showed you and I can show you again if your memeory is too short, nearly 98% of Nazi Germany claimed to be Christian of some denomination. You're pulling shit out of your ass.
@bluegsp 2010 was not the only year we were occupying other nations, and I wouldn't consider a CENT a fair profit margin, considering the profit results in the murder of millions of innocent people, you fucking nazi piece of shit. I can't believe you would make this comment. You haven't exposed any lies, hypocrisy or stupidity, you just keep claiming you have. I dare you to show me even ONE example of lies, hypocrisy or stupidity. You are completely delusional.
@bluegsp And second, if you had read anything I said about political parties and lobbyists, you'd understand the context that I was saying our government is destroyed. And it is. We don't govern ourselves. If you knew anything about the amount of military spending and these BULLSHIT bailouts, that both you republicans and democrats approved of, you'd realize lobbyists are what really controls America. Halliburton has alone made hundreds of billions of dollars off the Iraq War. LOOK THAT UP
@CK3890 Halliburton operates on a net profit of 3.5%, just what would you consider a fair profit margin? (you see, I did look it up and again show you to be a complete ass). I keep exposing your lies, hypocrisy and stupidity, but you are too stupid to understand it. (or maybe you are looking too hard for an apostrophe that may be in the wrong place) I have never switched arguments, you are the one doing that, and then I annihilate you on your new false assertions.
@bluegsp You have not once explained any lies and stupidity, this is again, an example of my analogy. Is anyone else reading this lol? You are clearly thoroughly insane or have a very small penis and cry a lot.
Funny how I'm stupid when we have switched arguments now a couple times. I repeat each argument in my comments, wheras you like to jump. This is a clear indication that you are not confident in your arguments, and you cannot admit you were wrong. Nazis were leftists, LOL
@CK3890 You have presented no valid arguments. You can't even support your insane assertions. I back up every thing I say as I address each of your dumb ass points. You have been reduced to looking for typos which is a clear admission that you have failed. You are a complete and utter failure and I have easily destroyed and humiliated you on every point. Time to grow up junior and learn to be a man, instead of an ignorant, lying, hypocritical, stupid, liberal, shit stain.
@bluegsp LMAO. You again. It's sad that people like you are allowed to vote. Can't you stop criticizing people and start having intelligent conversations? It's insane to say that big businesses make a net profit of 3.5%. 3.5% of what? 100 trillion? Yeah, that would be 3.5 trillion.
@syzygy502 Why would it be "insane" to say they make a net profit of 3.5 percent? Reality is "insane" to you. If they invest 96.5 trillion (numbers which you just pull out of your ass, by the way) to do a job, yes, 3.5% is not unreasonable. They are not a charity, those profits go to shareholders who are teachers, firemen, policemen,...etc anyone with a 401k or an IRA. People who are investing in their retirement and not relying on the government. You are insane.
@Brdj010 LMAO. Actually, only respecting the people that coincides their votes is what the republicans do. I never said that I disrespect your vote. You make a very good projector.
@bluegsp Again I'll refer to my analogy. I am a witness testifying against you, and after I've finished speaking, you sit up in your chair and scream "LIAR! IDIOT!" Your argument has absolutely no substance. Anyone who bothers to read our useless argument can verify that too. I'VE BEEN REDUCED TO LOOKING FOR TYPOS?! OMG LOL. Coming from the guy who keeps ignoring the fact that I said I meant to say they shouldn't be used as nouns. Name one example of where I was looking for typos. You're insane.
@CK3890 You have presented no valid arguments. You can't even support your insane assertions. I back up every thing I say as I address each of your dumb ass points. You have been reduced to looking for typos which is a clear admission that you have failed. You are a complete and utter failure and I have easily destroyed and humiliated you on every point. Time to grow up junior and learn to be a man, instead of an ignorant, lying, hypocritical, stupid, liberal, shit stain.
@bluegsp Hilarious too that you think George Washington was 'wrong'. You will never be even close to the man that George Washington was. His wisdom, intelligence and foresight will forever be admired and lauded by the real citizens of this country. Go fuck yourself.
@CK3890 History proves Washington wrong, He was still just a man capable of error, not a God to idiots like you. You are an ignorant piece of shit aren't you?
@bluegsp You know what George Washington's dying wish was? That America ban political parties. He wanted people to be loyal to their country, not their party. He wanted people to think for themselves, and not go along with popular opinion. You sir, are the worst American I've ever met. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@bluegsp Also, I'm guessing that you are arguing that Nazis were leftist because you're a rightist, which makes you a retard. No one is completely conservative or progressive in their views. These are adjectives anyways, not nouns. A rational, non-retarded person would choose not to have a political party and think for themselves. They'd probably be more loyal to their country too, and not their party.
@bluegsp You're a complete idiot. Yes they disguised themselves as left wing, but nationalism and facism seek to control every aspect of it's citizen's lives. It doesn't get more right wing that that. You think encouraging porn and abortion makes them left wing liberals? And they did not denounce Christians, they claimed to be Christians. You know absolutely nothing and are in no position to call anyone an 'ignorant moron'. Go troll somewhere else.
@bluegsp Nazis were right-wing fascists, just like today's republicans. They wanted no gun laws and no nationalization of anything. You have every piece of reality so backwards just like snacilbuper.
@syzygy502 I have destroyed and humiliated you with facts and you come back with nothing but ill informed opinion. Pull your head out of your ass and let your brain get some oxygen.
@bluegsp Opinions? NO. Nazis were right-wing fascists. That's a fact. They're like today's republicans. That's a fact. I gave you other facts as well.
@bluegsp I have given you facts even right there and like 90% of the republicans out there, you can't handle the facts. I guess your mind is mentally retarded like Palin's kid. LMAO.
@syzygy502 You don't' even know what a fact is. You have given lies, I have stated facts. Get someone to wipe the snot away from your nose, its beginning to drain into your mouth.
@bluegsp Fast response. Do you have anything better to do than troll on youtube everyday? Remember when you republicans said we had to support George Bush? Well, you can do that for Obama. Oh wait, you're a bunch of racists.
@syzygy502 Reading through my arguments with this lunatic, I now clearly see your point. Reagan really has made socialism seem like communism to dumb people. You were completely right.
@Brdj010 I appreciate your efforts, but trying to get through the cider bock between these moron's ears is impossible. They have dedicated themselves to an ideology that is steeped in lies and they are committed to lie to defend it. What a pathetic existence they must lead.
@bluegsp OMG, it seems like liberals get loonier every year. It certainly doesn't help that they actually listen to and believe the nonsense drivel spewed on crap like The Young Turks.
@Brdj010 I know what you mean. If you want a good laugh, read the conversation with me and "syzgy502" and "CK3890". Everything they say is an absolute lie or complete insanity. No one can be this stupid, so they have to be intentionally lying and like TYT, have no moral qualms about doing it. I don't understand how minds can work like that.
@Brdj010 Socialism is just an economic system. No country can be fully socialist and you'd know this if you understood the difference between socialism and communism.
@Brdj010 So you see, socialism does not conflict at all with capitalism. Socialism by itself, in the form of social security, medicare, water, libraries, gyms, schools works everyday in hundreds of countries. Socialism is a great thing. Socialism is the reason we are talking to each other right now.
@CK3890 Socialism refers to the government and its dealings with the people. That should be limited. Too much government control is a terrible, oppressive thing. That is what you want. Limited government is what I want and that is what works.
@Brdj010 "Socialism refers to the government and its dealings with the people." LOL what? Yes of course government should be limited, that is irrelevant. When did I ever say I wanted that? I merely was defending the social programs that have made this country as strong as it is today. Just like bluegsp, you're building a strawman argument (probably because you can't think of anything else and can't stand to EVER be wrong). Cry more
@CK3890 You mean the programs that have allowed many people to be lazy and live off the government? Welfare and stuff like that should only serve as a safety net, not something for people to live on because they don't want to work and want to keep popping babies out they can't afford. Also, the government should not force citizens to purchase anything.
@Brdj010 No I mean like the programs that quench your thrist, that educated your children, that take care of your elderly relatives. Just quit it already. You have lost this argument.
@Brdj010 And if you weren't illiterate, you'd have read that socialism is SOME of the means of production, meaning some people contribute a small amount of their income to a public fund, and they recieve it back proportionally. Communist countries allow lazy people to recieve funds for doing nothing. It's not like you can walk into a bank never having a job and say "I'd like my social security now". You have to pay for the socialized water. You have to pay for the socialized school. Not laziness
@CK3890 I am literate, otherwise I wouldn't be able to respond to you here. Government handouts should only go to those who have exhausted all of their choices and need government assistance until they can get back on their feet. It wasn't mean for people to just use as an excuse to not work and continue to have babies they can't afford, or for ILLEGAL aliens. There are many people in this very country doing that. They have been doing it for years, even when they economy was fine. Open your eyes
@Brdj010 Once again, socialism is not at all government handouts. Have you ever held a job? Notice how when you get your check stub it tells you it took money for federal income tax, state income tax, social security and medicare. You pay a PORTION of your check to a fund that will help you later in life when you cannot earn a paycheck. Illegal aliens are not helped by social funds whatsoever. You're an idiot.
@CK3890 Yes, but socialism is the complete government ownership of business and industry. There is a difference between limited government and socialism.
@Brdj010 No, I'm sorry that's nationalism. It's also the beginning of facism. Facism includes that, but that in itself does not equate to facism. Socialism is when SOME means of production is collected into a fund that is redistributed PROPORTIONALLY among those who paid into it. And no this isn't communism. Communism is what ALL of the mans of production are collected into a fund and redistributed EVENLY. Nearly every industrialized nation in the world is a mix of socialism and capitalism.
David Gergen = LOL
putittogether 3 weeks ago
Final continuation: Bluegsp believes that enlistment in military service does not include mandates. He believes that you can just volunteer and leave when you like with no consquences. He believes that America is 'liberating' middle eastern countries by occupying and controlling them for a decade. He believes that our government is not run by lobbyists and money. He believes questioning the government, criticizing the military and protecting the integrity of the constitution is 'unAmerican'.
CK3890 4 months ago
Cont'd: Bluegsp consistenly said that Nazi Germany worshipped Hitler, providing many quotes of orders to do so, and yet never showing a study (like I did, that showed over 98% of Nazi Germany was Christian). He instead preferred to call me an idiot and a liar and a hypocrite. Clearly from all the jumping from argument to argument, bluegsp was grasping at straws. It's okay to be wrong bluegsp. It helps you to make better choices and speak with clear articulation. Maybe one day you'll realize this
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Not to mention Hitler himself was devoutly Catholic, something that discomforts religious people and they've tried to recast him as an atheist.
bannor99 2 weeks ago
Cont'd: Bluegsp claimed that George Washington was wrong when he said that political parties will ruin this country's government. I asked him repeatedly how he is wrong and how political parties do not hamper individual thinking and how political parties do not siphon loyalty from the country they claim to represent. His reponse was, over and over, that he is just plain wrong and political parties encourage individual thought (ie. just refuted what I said and calling it 'fact').
CK3890 4 months ago
And to conclude: Bluegsp had no argument for how Nazis were left-wing. He clearly demonstrated that they spoke of being left-wing, but speaking and being aren't the same thing. Bluegsp consistently called me a liar when I said I meant conservative and progressive should be used as adjectives, not nouns, because no one is entirely one way or the other. He had no rebuttal to this other than to keep calling me a liar, and then proceeded to tell me I'm looking for typos.
CK3890 4 months ago
And to clarify my position on the troops. I do not support American military commanders. The troops have no choice. They are property of the USA. The commanders and their higher-ups are the ones profitting off the deaths of millions of people. There is nothing more American than criticizing your government. That is the principle that this country was founded on.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Of course the troops have a "choice", its a volunteer Service, moron. Do you even read the stupidity that you write? Who is "profiting"? You are insane.
"Just because" I provide the evidence and facts is what proves me right, idiot. Your entire argument consists of "nu-huh". You really are a pathetically ignorant Anti American liberal Fuck aren't you?
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Its a volunteer service to become enlisted. Once you are enlisted, it's not longer voluntary, it's mandatory. Any 10 year old knows this... Who is profitting? We already went over this. Halliburton mostly. My entire argument consists of nu-uh? Really? You are 100% senile. Congratulations.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Yes, it is volunteer, and every volunteer knows they have to follow orders, every 5 year old knows this. Enlistments are up, re enlistments are at an all time high, volunteers for multiple tours of Iraq and Afghanistan are way up. Thank God Halliburton is there making life easier for our troops, if they make a paulty 3.5% profit, more power to them and their investors which include teachers, police, firefighters, and about anyone else who has a 401K or IRA. You are retarded.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp LOL. No. A volunteer doesn't have to do shit. They volunteer for what they'd like to help with. Idiot.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 I have given you several examples you simpleton. And yes a "volunteer" does have to do "shit", moron, once they volunteer. We are not talking about a church bake sale, we are talking about volunteering to enter into a contract to exchange service for compensation. Man are you fucking retarded.
You are the one that is disgusting. I suggest if you don't like the American way of life, you get on a boat to Cuba, dickhead.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp You haven't given one example. Exactly. A volunteer is no longer a volunteer when they voluntarily sign a contract. Then they are a contractor. This is business 101. After you sign the contract, it's no longer voluntary but mandatory. I can't believe how stupid you are.
I love the American way of life. You're building another strawman argument. I do not like the government of America: that is my right and my obligation to this nation's citizens.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 You are fucking retarded. I have given dozens of examples of Nazi policy that mirror the Democrat party platform, Quotes from Hitler and Nazi party officials that prove that they are leftist socialists. A volunteer is always a volunteer and the fact that they re enlist and re volunteer for multiple tours of duties prove that you are an idiot. The government of America is by the people, so if you don't like the government, you don't like America.
PWND AGAIN.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp No, you are fucking retarded. Those are examples of what you think is correct. I said point out examples of my stupidity, lies or hypocrisy and you have not. I've told you many times, it does not matter what they preached because the Nazis were both facist and totalitarians. Preaching is saying what you want to do. Being is what you do. There is a difference being saying and doing. You can talk the talk but you can't walk the walk etc... Why don't you respond to this point ever?
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Bull shit, moron, I gave you facts and quotes, not opinion, like you. You have to be dumbest son of a bitch I have ever seen. every thing you say is an example of your lies, stupidity and hypocrisy. You don't even understand what a volunteer is. My god, are you even able to feed yourself with this kind of stupidity? People know what they are Volunteering for the military means, you don't get to "vote" on your orders, how fucking stupid are you?
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp and WOW. LOL. You helped my argument here. Exactly, they don't get to vote on their orders. That means their orders are mandatory, they can't choose to do something else. Voluntary implies they did it out of their own volition. Ever heard these words? Volition? Mandatory?
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Yeah, that's how it has always worked, moron and yet they still volunteer to serve and re enlist and they do so of their own "volition'. XD Jackass. Just because you volunteer for military service does not mean you are qualified to debate objectives. You volunteer to be told what to do. I can't believe how stupid you are. What a moron. XD
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp I've never heard of anyone calling military service 'volunteer work'. Its because it's your duty. Once you volunteer to enlist, you don't have the choice to just quit. They can either discharge you or you can go AWOL and get put in prison. Does Red Cross do this? How about Salvation Army? Again I suggest you look up the words mandatory and volition.
I also suggest you give up. We keep changing arguments because you aren't responding to my rebuttals with anything but 'LIAR! IDIOT!'
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Try Goggling "Volunteer Military" and let me know what you find. I know what the words "mandatory" and "volition" mean, but it is clear that you do not.
I have responded to all of your rebuttals with hard facts, I can't help it if those facts expose you for the lying idiot that you are.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp If you actually read our arguments, you'd see that you responded to many a tenth of the rebuttals I've had, and even when you did respond, it wasn't with 'hard facts', it was with irrelevant bullshit. I'm seriously done talking to you. Anyone who wasted their time reading this shit will know who is the dumbass and who has common sense. Goodbye and good riddance.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp LAST ONE, LOLOLOL. I just looked up Volunteer Military and guess what the FIRST sentence said in the article I found? Better yet, I'll copy and paste. "A volunteer military or all-volunteer military is one which derives its manpower from volunteers rather than conscription or mandatory service." Keywords: RATHER, MANDATORY SERVICE
You have proven yet again that you either have zero comprehension skills or that you are clincally insane. Have a nice life.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 You can't even comprehend what you read about Volunteer military. XD
that is priceless.
You confirm that you were wrong and you are too stupid to understand it. XD
Good riddance dumbass. XD
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Here's another analogy. If a judge sentences you to volunteer work, do you think that volunteer work isn't mandatory because it's called 'volunteer work'? Try thinking a little before formulating responses.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 A judge never sentences you to "volunteer work", its called community service.
You continue to strike out with every post. keep trying though, I find it amusing.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp I was sentenced to volunteer work when I was 17. I worked at Salvation Army Thrift Store in Downers Grove, IL. and again, if I wasn't winning this argument, you wouldn't have to say it.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 You are completely losing this argument. You were sentenced to "community service", not "volunteer work". You are a liar and a moron.
I have destroyed and humiliated every stupid post that you have made. Your "finale" manifesto is nothing but a diatribe of stupidity and lies.
You are a very good example of why liberalism is a mental disorder and you should be confined in a straight jacket and sealed in a rubber room
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Lol again you call me stupid and a liar and yet somehow can't come up with any reasons except that you have 'destroyed and humilated me'. Sorry to break it to you, YET AGAIN, but just saying it doesn't make it so. Kinda like the 'left-wing Nazis' lol
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Yeah, that is why I call you a stupid liar because I have backed up every assertion I have made and you have failed to make a single point. You are the weakest kind of idiot, because your stupidity is beyond any kind of defense. I have never seen a more anti intelligent argument from anyone. You have to be too stupid to tie your own shoes.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp You don't understand. I never said these people aren't volunteers. They volunteer to become US property. If you don't believe that you are US property when enlisted, slap yourself in the face or go talk to the nearest vet and ask them. Once you are enlisted, you have no choice what you are going to do. They tell you what to do and if you don't abide you are punished. This is military 101. The government of America is by the people? Naiive much? The government of America is by graft.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp And you cleary don't understand the document I had been referring to (the US constitution). I love America because I have the right to criticize my government without punishment. The CONSTITUTION is by the people for the people, not the government. The constitution protects us from government imposing their will upon an unwilling public.
And if you had really 'PWND' me, lol faggot, you wouldn't need to say it.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 You are an uneducated, lying, un American, hypocritical, stupid, delusional shit stain that people should just spit on as they walk past. I have never talked to a more dense and ignorant moron than you.
You have been PWND, destroyed and humiliated, jack ass, now go fuck yourself.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Another example of my analogy lol.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp Again you sicken me. I don't care if it's a 0.000001% profit, that's still profitting from the deaths of innocents. You're going to hell.
CK3890 4 months ago
Both bluegsp and brdj010 are completely braindead. They have no arguments, they just continue to post the same undeveloped crap, thinking that if they keep repeating themselves enough, that'll make them right. They also use words like stupid liberal as a defense mechanism when they realize they have absolutely no substance in their words.
They are very sad and are clearly very uneducated. I hope that one day they both understand that people are individuals. Not progressive or conservative.
CK3890 4 months ago
Is their some reason the reject Young Turks is calling Ronald Reagan of all people a socialist?? Makes no sense.
Brdj010 4 months ago
It's hilarious how many fear-driven retards think that socialism and communism are the same thing. America has been socialist for a very long time. There's medicare, social security, socialized water, socialized mail system (USPS), socialized public schools (taxes), socialized gyms (city recreational centers), and of course socialized libraries.
Please people, learn the meanings of words before using them (especially in a negative context).
CK3890 6 months ago
@CK3890 Oh I love your comment. Simply, socialism has been poisoned by Reagan and the republicans.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 Simply, socialism is an abstract noun. You can't poison it. If they altered it then it isn't socialism. What an extremely stupid comment.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 What I am saying is that Reagan made socialism seem like communism.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 I can agree with that. Seem like communism to sheeple tho.
CK3890 4 months ago
@syzygy502 Reagan was a conservative stupid. I don't know why the libs and the moronic Young Turks are trying to call him one??
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 When did I say Reagan was a socialist? I said just the opposite you simpleton. TYT never said he was either. I said that Reagan has made socialism seem like a poison.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 No, guys like Joseph Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jong-il, Castro, etc, has done that. Socialism doesn't work in the real world.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 Those guys weren't socialists. They were fascists. Right-wing radicals. Try again troll.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 They were communists and the countries they lived in were called communist countries. That is because communism doesn't work in the real world. Communism is a fairy tale.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 They weren't communists. Do you even know what the Nazis stood for? Fascism. Just like right-wing lunatics.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 Nazi's were left wing socialists, your ignorant moron. "National Socialist Workers Party" ie the Nazi Party preached class warfare, the working class to resist ``exploitation'' by capitalists. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries.They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp You're a complete idiot. Yes they disguised themselves as left wing, but nationalism and facism seek to control every aspect of it's citizen's lives. It doesn't get more right wing that that. You think encouraging porn and abortion makes them left wing liberals? And they did not denounce Christians, they claimed to be Christians. You know absolutely nothing and are in no position to call anyone an 'ignorant moron'. Go troll somewhere else.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 "Disguised themselves"? Really? You really are delusional. XD It is the Right that advocates freedom and personal responsibility. It is the Left that wants to regulate and tax every aspect of your life. Yes, advocating porn and abortion makes them left wing liberals. Martin Bormann, also declared that "National Socialism [Nazism] and Christianity are irreconcilable" Hitler declared Nazism the state religion and the Bible was replaced by Mein Kampf in the schools. You are an idiot
bluegsp 4 months ago
@CK3890 "Disguised themselves"? Really? You really are delusional. XD It is the Right that advocates freedom and personal responsibility. It is the Left that wants to regulate and tax every aspect of your life. Yes, advocating porn and abortion makes them left wing liberals. Martin Bormann, also declared that "National Socialism [Nazism] and Christianity are irreconcilable" Hitler declared Nazism the state religion and the Bible was replaced by Mein Kampf in the schools. You are an idiot
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp They disguised themselves with propaganda and preaching the things you listed. They were also fiercely against the Communists, communists are far left. It matters not what Hitler declared, "The German census of May 1939 indicates that 54 percent of Germans considered themselves Protestant and 40 percent considered themselves Catholic, with only 3.5 percent claiming to be neo-pagan "believers in God," and 1.5 percent unbelievers. This census came more than six years into the Hitler era"
CK3890 4 months ago
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@bluegsp They disguised themselves with propaganda and preaching the things you listed. They were also fiercely against the Communists, communists are far left. It matters not what Hitler declared, "The German census of May 1939 indicates that 54 percent of Germans considered themselves Protestant and 40 percent considered themselves Catholic, with only 3.5 percent claiming to be neo-pagan "believers in God," and 1.5 percent unbelievers. This census came more than six years into the Hitler era"
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp Regardless of all that, any state that is that totalitarian and facists is clearly right wing. Hitler declared these things to again, disguise themselves as rational, trustworthy people. The Nazis used a lot of deceit, didn't you ever learn that in school?
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Yeah, the Nazi's wore a lot of "disguises". XD You really are an idiot. XD It is not "regardless of all that", it is because of all that that proves that Nazi's were left wing socialists. Conservative and Progressive are nouns when they are used to describe people who adhere to those principles. (buy a dictionary, dumb ass)
Only un principled ill informed morons don't adhere to parties because they don't know how to think for themselves.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Yes, they did. That proves Nazi's were left wing socialists. WHAT proves? You are more vague about your arguments than your insults LOL. I don't know where you went to school, totalitarianism and facism are both on the right side of the political spectrum.
I realize they are nouns, I was saying that they shouldn't be. No one is completely one way or another. They should be adjective and adjectives only. LOL adhering to your party's view is TOTALLY thinking for yourself. You got it.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp Yes, they did. That proves Nazi's were left wing socialists. WHAT proves? You are more vague about your arguments than your insults LOL. I don't know where you went to school, totalitarianism and facism are both on the right side of the political spectrum.
I realize they are nouns, I was saying that they shouldn't be. No one is completely one way or another. They should be adjective and adjectives only. LOL adhering to your party's view is TOTALLY thinking for yourself. You got it.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 I'm sorry, I didn't know you had such poor comprehension skills. That's my fault, I should have deduced that from the stupidity of your posts. Everything I showed you proves that the Nazi's were left wing. You didn't say that they "shouldn't" be nouns, you said "These are adjectives anyways, not nouns." so you are a lying idiot as well. You don't know what Washington's "dying wish was", he commented about parties in his farewell address, but he has been wrong for over 200 years.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp How the hell can you answer like that? You truly think Nazis were left-wing?? Please stop making yourself like a fool. They were right-wing fascists. You should be ashamed. I am an independent by the way loyal to my country and the President. I was hoping George Bush would succeed, although I knew better. You need to be loyal to America and not your racist teabagger friends.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 "Racists"? You just continue to pull shit out of your ass don't you? Independents are idiots, but you are even too stupid to be an independent, you are a liberal. Time to take your crazy pills.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Please stop. You're ruining America. Yes, you are a racist. You said you were going to kill my black girlfriend because I don't act white.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 Time to call the orderlies.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Orderlies??? Who the heck are they? Your friends? I consider that a threat as well. However, you can threaten me all you want, you just can't threaten the love of my life.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 The orderlies are the nice gentlemen in the white coats that will help you with your coat with the long sleeves that fasten in the back, before they take you to your room with the nice soft walls.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp LOL. OK, I don't understand where you're going now.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 Of course you don't, just let the grown ups worry about that and tomorrow you can have oatmeal.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp So why are you up at 3:30 in the morning. That just proves that you don't have a life. Why the hell would I want someone to help with my coat? That's what I don't understand. Of course, I don't expect a Neo-Nazi like you to comprehend like that. After all, conservative and Nazi are the same thing.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@bluegsp I said I MEANT they shouldn't be. Meaning I wasn't lying, I just wasn't clear enough for you to understand my point. And you STILL haven't shown me how what you said makes them left wing. No matter what you say, totalitarianism and facism will still be right wing. And yes, he mentioned it in his farewell address, but it was also his dying wish. He has been wrong? You're saying political parties don't hamper individual opinion? They aren't more loyal to their party than their country?
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Yeah, everyone caught lying and saying stupid shit always say they didn't mean it. You were very clear and I understood exactly what you meant. Again, you don't know what Washington's dying wish was, more than likely it was "I wish I weren't about to die". Yes he has been wrong. 200 plus years have passed and America has not been destroyed. Individuals are free in this country to vote for who ever they choose. You probably have never voted, but their is a long list of candidates.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp I didn't say I didn't mean it, I do mean it. I said I meant that they shouldn't be used as nouns, and anyone with a 3rd grade reading ability could understand what I was saying. If you knew what I meant, you wouldn't have said anything like 'look them up in the dictionary'. Who's the liar now? I'm sure Washington didn't want to die, but I've read in two different biographies that he wrote a final memo to the American public restating his wish. America has been destroyed.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Yes, everyone could understand what you are saying and it is a lie and very stupid. You said they were adjectives not nouns, I told you they were nouns and that you should "buy" a dictionary because you don't know what you are talking about. You are still the liar. (its good that you keep checking, though). America has not been destroyed and I have given obvious examples of that. There are many more than two political parties and there membership demonstrates their popularity.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp HAHAHA you say you knew what I meant, and yet you're still calling me a liar. I said, for the the third time now, that I meant they shouldn't be used as nouns because no one, and I repeat, NO ONE, is absolutely progressive or conservative. This means I wasn't lying, I merely chose the wrong words. And if it's very stupid, why cannot you not formulate even a single sentence as to why it is very stupid? America, as it used to be, certainly has been destroyed. Lobbyists govern us now.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 There is no question what you meant, you are only trying to cover up for it because I called you out on it. So, yes you were lying, just like when you pretended to know George Washington's "dying wish". People like you, lie without even know they are lying. You don't speak from facts or truth, you speak from what you wish were true. America has not been destroyed and I have given common sense examples of it (that is the "why" part of my argument that you falsely claim doesn't exist)
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp There are only two parties than get ever hold a majority in congress or get elected to executive positions, and that demonstrates nothing except that they have too much power. Popularity? hahaha you're more delusional than I previously thought.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Lobbyists are nothing more than representatives of people common interests petitioning the government on their behalf (like the teachers union) They have been around since Washington and have not "destroyed" the country. The two parties are get most of the votes because they represent a majority of the peoples views. Everyone is free to vote for who they like as I said before. As I said before, I have destroyed every false assertion you have made.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@CK3890 If I did not believe my party was right, I would not be a member of it. Of course we have history on our side proving us right. And yes, when a stupid independent doesn't vote, that vote does not count. Most people would consider this stuff common sense. Please explain how the elections are "rigged".
My arguments are valid and like I said, "easily verifiable". I don't remember a single source from you. That is what is really funny, your lack of understanding of hypocrisy and irony.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp They are free to vote yes, but you're missing the point. The two parties have made it impossible for anyone else to get elected, and the two parties work together to keep it that way. Individual opinions are forfeited CONSTANTLY by politicans who don't want to quote "commit political suicide" or in layman's terms, disagree with their party's popular opinion.
America has been destroyed in that our government doesn't even read legislation, let alone make it. That's done by lobbyists.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 The person with the most votes, (electoral in the case of the presidency) gets elected. The parties do not work together, they each work to win. You are not very bright are you? China is not a superpower, look it up. "Long past its prime"? What planet do you live on? Independents are idiots and give no thought to politics or they would align themselves with like minded people and join a party. Every point I have made is valid and verifiable. You are the idiot.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp LOL this is the best argument I've ever seen. You basically took everything I said and said the opposite without a single argument as to why any of this is not true. Just like you did not formulate a single argument of why not using conservative and progressive as nouns is very stupid. It is purely because you have no argument. You never did. You're just a wannabe know it all who is hell bent on his party being right in every way shape and form and anyone who disagrees is an idiot.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp Again I ask. You're saying political parties don't hamper individual opinion? They aren't more loyal to their party than their country? How was Washington wrong whatsoever?
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Now that I have once again destroyed and humiliated you, I am anxious to see what lying stupidity you come up with.
This is too easy.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp The one part I will agree with you is that the independents are naive about the political system. But, I would rather be an independent than a Neo-Nazi conservative. The independent party of old was supposed to be a party where you didn't have to be held on a certain political platform. The Democrats are the only party in America now that even cares about the people. I used to be a republican to let you know until 2003 when they started the Iraq War.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@bluegsp The Democrats are actually working for the people. The independents used to be a good party until they started joining the neo-Nazi conservative clan. The CONservatives and republitards are simply ruining our social and economic status. It is amazing that all of you are exactly the same. You name-calling and slander, you threaten and bully people who don't have the upper-class status or a coincidal view of your politics. Either start being an American, or leave. I love America too much.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502"the democrats are actually working for the people" HAHA That is the oldest and dumbest myth there is. Democrats want to enslave you to government dependency from cradle to grave. They don't want anyone to succeed in life, because the more you make and save, the more they want to take. But then again, you are really too retarded to understand any of this. XD
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Humiliated and destroyed? HAHAHAHA Let's make analogy. I'm a witness testifying against you. After my testimony is completed, you stand up in your chair and scream LIAR! IDIOT!
That's your entire argument. That I'm stupid and wrong. You haven't even used the word BECAUSE in one of your comments for Christs sake. This is the saddest argument I have ever been a part of and you are clearly completely brainwashed and there is absolutely no hope for you. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp Republicans and democrats have single-handedly ruined this country. We are going in the shitter because you fools care more about money and power than you do protecting the constitution and the jurisprudence it has clearly outlined. Independents are the only sensible politically-minded people. Republicans and democrats are both equally retarded.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 This country is not "ruined". We are still the greatest nation on earth (even Obama admitted that last night) and the worlds only superpower. Independents are morons who don't give politics any thought. When things aren't going well, they vote for the guy who says 'Change", when things are OK, they vote for the guy already in office. (that's how Clinton got two terms thanks to Reagan) I think you are retarded.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp China is the world's superpower buddy. America is long past it's prime. Independents give politics plenty of thought, are you kidding? Independent refers to someone not in a political party. Meaning they actually care for the country, and don't want to further normalize the partisan bullshit that has and still is ruining this country. I think you're the biggest idiot I've ever met on youtube and you have not made a single valid statement. Nazis are left wing. LOL
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp And independents rarely vote, because of the two party dictatorship America has, but when they do, it's usually for independents as well. Good try retard. Let's see what new argument you drool out next. I love making you eat your own words.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 If independents "rarely vote", than they are the problem for not participating in the process. They don't vote because they are uninformed of the issues and are not interested. My arguments are valid and based in fact, yours are ill informed conspiracy based opinionated nonsense. Washington was wrong because this country has continued to grow, prosper and become the envy of the world with the political system that he and the founding fathers set in place.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp They are the problem for not participating in the process. WHY? AGAIN, your arguments are more vague than your insults.... They don't vote because they know their votes don't count. The elections are rigged in favor of whoever has made the most payoffs. That's just politics. Get over it. LOL Your arguments are so valid and based in fact that you can't explain why they are or even cite a source. Got news for you, if your arguments were so valid you wouldn't have to say it. LOL
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp Washington never said that America wouldn't grow or prosper, you are building a strawman argument here. I said that Washington wanted political parties abolished because they hamper individual thought and siphon loyalty from the country to the party. And you STILL, after about three replys, have not told me how that is wrong in any way shape or form. You just keep saying "Washington was wrong. You're wrong. You're stupid. I'm always right. I don't have to explain why either."
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 "Destroy" is the prevention of growth and prosperity, you moron. That is not a "straw man argument", it is a factual rebuttal to a false assertion.
I have explained your lies and stupidity point by point and like the brain dead liberal that you are, you only hear what you want to hear and continue to lie.
You are stupid and we have thoroughly demonstrated that.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Jesus Christ man, do you remember questioning my comprehension skills? This is the second time you have failed to grasp any contextual information. If you read that no one is really progressive or conservative the first time you'd have understood that I knew it was a noun, and that I thought it was a bit of a misnomer in all cases, and could and should be used only as an adjective. That's just an opinion and you attempted to turn it into a debate.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Of course people are conservative and progressive, that is why they are nouns. You continue to just pull bullshit out of your ass and act like an idiot when you are called on your lies and stupidity. Government is not destroyed, it is working just as it was designed to. What makes you think I don't know anything about "military spending" (which was only about 20% of the budget in 2010)? The bailouts are a misuse of tax money, but that is why we hold elections.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp "People are conservative and progressive" You used adjectives without even realizing it. You continue to just call me stupid and a liar, without any substance to any argument you've attempted to make. The government isn't working whatsoever. They move only when lobbyists want them to move. I have no proof of this, and you have no proof of the latter, but the circumstances definitely point in my directions. Let's not talk about that, neither of us can back up what we said.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 I never said that "conservative" and "progressive" were not adjectives. You are the one who said that they were not "nouns", which is a lie.
So you consider supporting our troops, "murder". It appears that you are an Un American piece of shit. America has never been "occupiers", we have always been "liberators'. Too much stupidity to cover it all, but you get the point, you are a ignorant,lying hypocritical stupid, liberal, shit stain. XD
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp No shit sherlock. Read your comment. You said that your sentence shows that they are nouns, even though you used the words as adjectives. I never said you said they weren't adjectives. We are occupying both Afghanistan and Iraq STILL, and Libya is soon to be on the list. And I support the troops that actually liberate people from oppression, but I don't support the troops as a whole because most of them are carrying out murders in the name of money and oil.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 No, you were the one that said they weren't "nouns". We are not "occupying' anywhere. Afghanistan and Iraq have their own governments and want us there to kill terrorists. No troops are 'carrying out murder", you are an Anti American shit stain for even saying that. Obama just gave a medal of honor to Marine yesterday for rescuing a bunch of Afghan and American soldiers trying to help "repair a mosque" and walked into an ambush. How is that for an example, jackass.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Still looking for typos huh? Yes. I admitted I said that. I also said that that was not what I meant. So we're not occupying Iraq or Afghanistan. We're just liberating them for a decade. LOL "Afghanistan and Iraq have their own governments and want us there to kill terrorists." I'm sorry but that didn't make sense and I don't know what you MEANT to say. Are you kidding? There are tens of thousands of soldiers who admit they murdered innocent people, and many committ suicide over it.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890
The Twenty-Five Theses of the German Religion, Thesis XV of that Nazi publication states: "The Ethic of the German Religion condemns all belief in inherited sin, as well as the Jewish-Christian teaching of a fallen world. Such a teaching is not only non-Germanic and non-German, it is immoral and nonreligious. Whoever preaches this menaces the morality of the people."
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Again, it doesn't matter what they preached. Nazis still identified themselves as Christian.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 NO, Nazis did not identify themselves as Christians. But again, that is a Red Herring. Obama identifies himself as Christian, so does Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and Bill Clinton. Are you saying that they are right wing Nazi's as well? See how stupid you are? Every thing I have said proves that they are left wing socialists, their party platform is almost identical to the Democrats. I have rebutted everything you have said (or more accurately, "not said").
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp LOL again, calling me a liar. Just saying it doesn't make it so. I showed you a study, you have shown me a denial. No I am not saying they are Nazis (and you don't have to say right wing, Nazis were right wing). Everything you have said proves nothing other than you are so brainwashed you don't realize that making a statement doesn't equal proof. LOL Nazis are identical to democrats. All it is with you is partisan bullshit. For the last time, republicans and democrats are both retarded.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 You are a liar. I have backed up everything I have said, you have given nothing but ill informed opinion. I have given you facts about the Nazi party that prove that they were left wing socialists, you say they "disguised" themselves, and "there were some Christians in Germany so they must have been right wing" You are a complete dumbass and have totally embarrassed yourself on this thread.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Again I ask, show me ONE example of my lies, hypocrisy or stupidity. Or one example of even ONE time that you demonstrated anything (not just saying it).
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp You've backed up nothing. Not a damn thing. I've asked you to give many examples and you refuse because you know you haven't backed up anything. You obviously have an extremely unwarranted ego, and you cannot deal with being wrong. I'm done talking to you. You clearly don't realize that in making mistakes we become wiser. Good luck to you.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 You're an idiot.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 Since I'm feeling generous I'll explain the difference yet again. Socialism is when SOME of the means of production is divided PROPORTIONALLY to those who paid into. Communism is when ALL of the means of production is divided EQUALLY to everyone, regardless of who contributed. So you see, if all the means of production (fully socialist) were divided, proportions would not mattter, because EVERYONE had paid into it. A country cannot be fully socialist. It can be fully comunist though.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 "Backed up nothing"? Here is another example of your lies, jackass. I have given loads of examples and all you say is "just cause you say it doesn't make it so". You are a retarded little child and if you had any intelligence at all, you would be totally embarrassed and humiliated by now.
Go Fuck Yourself.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp That was your ONLY example and it didn't back up anything because I showed you a conflicting study and showed you how it was irrelevant. Leaders are not the entire group they represent. And the people that the Nazi leaders represented were overwhelmingly Christian. Try again moron.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp That's an example yes. I already said that there are some troops I support, but the troops as a whole I do not. I don't support the murder of millions of innocent people and you're a bad American for not agreeing.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 In February 1937 Hanns Kerrl, Minister of Religion in the Third Reich, said:
"The question of the divinity of Christ is ridiculous and inessential. A new answer has arisen as to what Christ and Christianity are: Adolph Hitler."
University Nazis in Keil wrote in 1935: "We Germans are heathens and want no more Jewish religion in our Germany. We no longer believe in the Holy Ghost; we believe in the Holy Blood."
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp And if you knew ANYTHING about the document that makes our country great, then you'd know that my questioning the government and criticizing our military is about the most American thing you can do. America was founded because we questioned the British government. You're an idiot. And again, show me ONE example of any lies, stupidity or hypocrisy. Just one. I dare you.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp And again, I did not MEAN to say they weren't nouns literally, I meant to say that they shouldn't be used as nouns. And even if I didn't correct myself, it wouldn't be a lie, it would just be an incorrect statement. You clearly can't tell the difference. I can see you're still searching for typos because you have absolutely no argument. Care to talk more about left-wing Nazis? LOL
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist ``exploitation'' by capitalists -- particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Dumbass. XD
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp LOL I'm the dumbass? It does not mean shit what Hitler preached. The Nazi party still was facist and used totalitarianism to stay in power. Nothing you say will change the fact that facism and totalitarianism are on the FAR RIGHT of the political spectrum. Class warfare is not progressive or conservative anyways and nationalism is far right. They encourage porn and abortion of non-aryans not for progressive reasons but to fufill Hitler's idea of a master race.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Göring ordered that the Hitler Gruss (the Hitler salute) was the only religious gesture allowed.
In 1937 Stephen H. Roberts wrote in his book, The House That Hitler Built, that the hostility between Nazism and churches began as soon as the Nazis came to power, and that it quickly became impossible to be a good Catholic and a good Nazi.
Everything I have said proves that the Nazi's were left wing socialists, DUMBASS!
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Nothing you have said proves Nazis were left-wing socialists. EVERYTHING you said was dismantled by myself and you CLEARLY have no rebuttal to anything I said.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp And they did not denounce Christians at all. As I showed you and I can show you again if your memeory is too short, nearly 98% of Nazi Germany claimed to be Christian of some denomination. You're pulling shit out of your ass.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp 2010 was not the only year we were occupying other nations, and I wouldn't consider a CENT a fair profit margin, considering the profit results in the murder of millions of innocent people, you fucking nazi piece of shit. I can't believe you would make this comment. You haven't exposed any lies, hypocrisy or stupidity, you just keep claiming you have. I dare you to show me even ONE example of lies, hypocrisy or stupidity. You are completely delusional.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp And second, if you had read anything I said about political parties and lobbyists, you'd understand the context that I was saying our government is destroyed. And it is. We don't govern ourselves. If you knew anything about the amount of military spending and these BULLSHIT bailouts, that both you republicans and democrats approved of, you'd realize lobbyists are what really controls America. Halliburton has alone made hundreds of billions of dollars off the Iraq War. LOOK THAT UP
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Halliburton operates on a net profit of 3.5%, just what would you consider a fair profit margin? (you see, I did look it up and again show you to be a complete ass). I keep exposing your lies, hypocrisy and stupidity, but you are too stupid to understand it. (or maybe you are looking too hard for an apostrophe that may be in the wrong place) I have never switched arguments, you are the one doing that, and then I annihilate you on your new false assertions.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp You have not once explained any lies and stupidity, this is again, an example of my analogy. Is anyone else reading this lol? You are clearly thoroughly insane or have a very small penis and cry a lot.
Funny how I'm stupid when we have switched arguments now a couple times. I repeat each argument in my comments, wheras you like to jump. This is a clear indication that you are not confident in your arguments, and you cannot admit you were wrong. Nazis were leftists, LOL
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 You have presented no valid arguments. You can't even support your insane assertions. I back up every thing I say as I address each of your dumb ass points. You have been reduced to looking for typos which is a clear admission that you have failed. You are a complete and utter failure and I have easily destroyed and humiliated you on every point. Time to grow up junior and learn to be a man, instead of an ignorant, lying, hypocritical, stupid, liberal, shit stain.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp LMAO. You again. It's sad that people like you are allowed to vote. Can't you stop criticizing people and start having intelligent conversations? It's insane to say that big businesses make a net profit of 3.5%. 3.5% of what? 100 trillion? Yeah, that would be 3.5 trillion.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 Why would it be "insane" to say they make a net profit of 3.5 percent? Reality is "insane" to you. If they invest 96.5 trillion (numbers which you just pull out of your ass, by the way) to do a job, yes, 3.5% is not unreasonable. They are not a charity, those profits go to shareholders who are teachers, firemen, policemen,...etc anyone with a 401k or an IRA. People who are investing in their retirement and not relying on the government. You are insane.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@syzygy502 I love how you liberals only respect the right to vote as long as they are voting in your favor.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 LMAO. Actually, only respecting the people that coincides their votes is what the republicans do. I never said that I disrespect your vote. You make a very good projector.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@bluegsp Again I'll refer to my analogy. I am a witness testifying against you, and after I've finished speaking, you sit up in your chair and scream "LIAR! IDIOT!" Your argument has absolutely no substance. Anyone who bothers to read our useless argument can verify that too. I'VE BEEN REDUCED TO LOOKING FOR TYPOS?! OMG LOL. Coming from the guy who keeps ignoring the fact that I said I meant to say they shouldn't be used as nouns. Name one example of where I was looking for typos. You're insane.
CK3890 4 months ago
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@CK3890 You have presented no valid arguments. You can't even support your insane assertions. I back up every thing I say as I address each of your dumb ass points. You have been reduced to looking for typos which is a clear admission that you have failed. You are a complete and utter failure and I have easily destroyed and humiliated you on every point. Time to grow up junior and learn to be a man, instead of an ignorant, lying, hypocritical, stupid, liberal, shit stain.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@CK3890 Independents are morons and I have already demonstrated that to you.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp The only thing you've demonstrated is that you don't know what a demostration is. Just because you say it doesn't make it so.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp Hilarious too that you think George Washington was 'wrong'. You will never be even close to the man that George Washington was. His wisdom, intelligence and foresight will forever be admired and lauded by the real citizens of this country. Go fuck yourself.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 History proves Washington wrong, He was still just a man capable of error, not a God to idiots like you. You are an ignorant piece of shit aren't you?
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp You know what George Washington's dying wish was? That America ban political parties. He wanted people to be loyal to their country, not their party. He wanted people to think for themselves, and not go along with popular opinion. You sir, are the worst American I've ever met. You should be ashamed of yourself.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp Also, I'm guessing that you are arguing that Nazis were leftist because you're a rightist, which makes you a retard. No one is completely conservative or progressive in their views. These are adjectives anyways, not nouns. A rational, non-retarded person would choose not to have a political party and think for themselves. They'd probably be more loyal to their country too, and not their party.
CK3890 4 months ago
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@bluegsp You're a complete idiot. Yes they disguised themselves as left wing, but nationalism and facism seek to control every aspect of it's citizen's lives. It doesn't get more right wing that that. You think encouraging porn and abortion makes them left wing liberals? And they did not denounce Christians, they claimed to be Christians. You know absolutely nothing and are in no position to call anyone an 'ignorant moron'. Go troll somewhere else.
CK3890 4 months ago
@bluegsp Nazis were right-wing fascists, just like today's republicans. They wanted no gun laws and no nationalization of anything. You have every piece of reality so backwards just like snacilbuper.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 I have destroyed and humiliated you with facts and you come back with nothing but ill informed opinion. Pull your head out of your ass and let your brain get some oxygen.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Opinions? NO. Nazis were right-wing fascists. That's a fact. They're like today's republicans. That's a fact. I gave you other facts as well.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 You have given nothing but ill informed and unsubstantiated opinion. You are so childishly stupid, its impossible to take you seriously.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp I have given you facts even right there and like 90% of the republicans out there, you can't handle the facts. I guess your mind is mentally retarded like Palin's kid. LMAO.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 You don't' even know what a fact is. You have given lies, I have stated facts. Get someone to wipe the snot away from your nose, its beginning to drain into your mouth.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Fast response. Do you have anything better to do than troll on youtube everyday? Remember when you republicans said we had to support George Bush? Well, you can do that for Obama. Oh wait, you're a bunch of racists.
syzygy502 4 months ago
@syzygy502 The Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers' Party you stupid idiot.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@syzygy502 Reading through my arguments with this lunatic, I now clearly see your point. Reagan really has made socialism seem like communism to dumb people. You were completely right.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Socialism is basically the same thing. It looks good on paper, but doesn't work on people.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 I appreciate your efforts, but trying to get through the cider bock between these moron's ears is impossible. They have dedicated themselves to an ideology that is steeped in lies and they are committed to lie to defend it. What a pathetic existence they must lead.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp OMG, it seems like liberals get loonier every year. It certainly doesn't help that they actually listen to and believe the nonsense drivel spewed on crap like The Young Turks.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 I know what you mean. If you want a good laugh, read the conversation with me and "syzgy502" and "CK3890". Everything they say is an absolute lie or complete insanity. No one can be this stupid, so they have to be intentionally lying and like TYT, have no moral qualms about doing it. I don't understand how minds can work like that.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@Brdj010 Yes, this is you again making socialism look like communism. Socialism works everyday in hundreds of countries.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Correction. A MIX of socialism and capitalism works everyday in hundreds of countries.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 Socialism is just an economic system. No country can be fully socialist and you'd know this if you understood the difference between socialism and communism.
CK3890 4 months ago
@Brdj010 So you see, socialism does not conflict at all with capitalism. Socialism by itself, in the form of social security, medicare, water, libraries, gyms, schools works everyday in hundreds of countries. Socialism is a great thing. Socialism is the reason we are talking to each other right now.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Socialism refers to the government and its dealings with the people. That should be limited. Too much government control is a terrible, oppressive thing. That is what you want. Limited government is what I want and that is what works.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 You can't take the CK3890 seriously, he talks out his ass and does nothing but lie.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@Brdj010 "Socialism refers to the government and its dealings with the people." LOL what? Yes of course government should be limited, that is irrelevant. When did I ever say I wanted that? I merely was defending the social programs that have made this country as strong as it is today. Just like bluegsp, you're building a strawman argument (probably because you can't think of anything else and can't stand to EVER be wrong). Cry more
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 You mean the programs that have allowed many people to be lazy and live off the government? Welfare and stuff like that should only serve as a safety net, not something for people to live on because they don't want to work and want to keep popping babies out they can't afford. Also, the government should not force citizens to purchase anything.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 No I mean like the programs that quench your thrist, that educated your children, that take care of your elderly relatives. Just quit it already. You have lost this argument.
CK3890 4 months ago
@Brdj010 And if you weren't illiterate, you'd have read that socialism is SOME of the means of production, meaning some people contribute a small amount of their income to a public fund, and they recieve it back proportionally. Communist countries allow lazy people to recieve funds for doing nothing. It's not like you can walk into a bank never having a job and say "I'd like my social security now". You have to pay for the socialized water. You have to pay for the socialized school. Not laziness
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 I am literate, otherwise I wouldn't be able to respond to you here. Government handouts should only go to those who have exhausted all of their choices and need government assistance until they can get back on their feet. It wasn't mean for people to just use as an excuse to not work and continue to have babies they can't afford, or for ILLEGAL aliens. There are many people in this very country doing that. They have been doing it for years, even when they economy was fine. Open your eyes
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 Once again, socialism is not at all government handouts. Have you ever held a job? Notice how when you get your check stub it tells you it took money for federal income tax, state income tax, social security and medicare. You pay a PORTION of your check to a fund that will help you later in life when you cannot earn a paycheck. Illegal aliens are not helped by social funds whatsoever. You're an idiot.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Yes, but socialism is the complete government ownership of business and industry. There is a difference between limited government and socialism.
Brdj010 4 months ago
@Brdj010 No, I'm sorry that's nationalism. It's also the beginning of facism. Facism includes that, but that in itself does not equate to facism. Socialism is when SOME means of production is collected into a fund that is redistributed PROPORTIONALLY among those who paid into it. And no this isn't communism. Communism is what ALL of the mans of production are collected into a fund and redistributed EVENLY. Nearly every industrialized nation in the world is a mix of socialism and capitalism.
CK3890 4 months ago
@CK3890 Yes, but not to the full socialism you libs are trying to push this country.
Brdj010 4 months ago