How can he make the argument that 'your money is your money not the govs' and gov spend too much when our tax dollars pays his salary since he is a public service official and congress agreed to give themselves a pay raise, and he was the author of the bailout and used our money to help the secure his multimillion$ investment he had in Bank of America. I don't like to choice sides but I want them to tell the truth.
How can make the arguement that 'your money is your money not the governments' and gov. spend too much when our tax dollars pay salary since he is a public service official and congress agreed to give themselves a pay raise, and he was the author of the bailout and used our money to help the secure his multimillion$ investment he had in Bank of America. I don't like to choice sides but I want them to tell the truth.
Conmessa is a bimbo. Try as she may to be an intellectual it just doesn't work. It's clear she was embarassed and likely sweating. Whenever a co-anchor has to come to your rescue you know you screwed up. Way out of her league. By the way where is Contessa these days? Lobbying to keep the Republicans from giving "no money" to education? Dumbass!
It's not a TAX CUT - nitwit! NO-BO-DY is getting a TAX CUT from this thing. The Democrats are proposing a TAX HIKE - RAISING TAXES. If Washington would CUT SPENDING they wouldn't have to BORROW money. Get it, people? Gee whizz! The media foofs are stupid. NO ONE IS GETTING A TAX CUT!
america: shining beacon of idiocracy....and the sad part is, i even believe most of those people with incomes in the millions WANT to pay more taxes. poor americans, i couldnt live in a country with such an evil like the gop...
@armatus99 stay in your country then. didnt we kick your behind once already. U have alot of fools there that followed hitler and your people killed innocent people. whos the idiot?
@alholds for the last decade, clearly the united states. and its so embarressing when all you can bring is hitler^^. uhhhh and your people killed and enslaved innocent people too. all those fools in the south....i hope you see what a bs argument that is ;=)
@armatus99 tosee the future, just look at the past.Ulost ww1 and ww2. you followed1 man that killed MILLIONS of people right in front of you. Ur a joke and your country disgusts me!
@alholds well, i cant do anything against your lack of education, which frankly i find disgusting. instead of looking at this party and debating wether or not its killing the states you rather throw some of your 5th grade history at me. go ahead, but i seriously suggest some study of gop policy and history of germany ;)
and greet those indians for me k ..no wait, you killed them all,damn...
@armatus99..why wouldnt you want to live here...lets look at some facts..germans pay 60 % of their income to be taken care of cradle to grave..no doubt the german people have produced some brilliant minds and truth be told some great military minds..but germans have a herd mentality..lets take a look at freedom.. you do not have in germany....free speech is restricted.. an unarmed population..(the exact reason the usa will never have a hitler/or a kaiser)an unwavering obedience to authority...
@Keys2Eden thats right,we pay taxes,thats why we have a good infrastructure, no collapsing bridges over here ;). we have free college for students.there will never be a homeless family cause of healthcare costs. now freedom: we can gather wereever we want, when we want. the military cant be used inside our borders, i am free, we are free. citing prison numbers way more than you ;) we are a peaceful people, we dont want guns for everyone.
@armatus99 americans acted like a frightened herd after 911, giving bush extrordinary powers, and invading a country under false pretenses, NOT once questioned by those who should. that was herdmentality...
im not saying youre somalia, but you have so many people in charge who are soooo fucked up/dumb/ignorant... i mostly dont like my politicians, but compared to the us...thanks but no thanks
@armatus99lol come on now...and saddam was an angel...we took out a dictator..what we should have done with hitler to begin with...and with all the shady history the germans have ..how dare any european country judge us..we have brought freedom to the world..last word my friend..i have german blood..as do many americans..why are we so different..because we love freedom..not big government..
@armatus99 herd mentality..means you are a collective...you are followers..not leaders... we now see socialism collapsing all over europe...and it has caused untold problems here.. as far as infrastructure is concerned..we have more bridges more roads..more autos, more people..more of everything than germany ,and what happens when germany runs out of money to bail out the rest of a failed europe.the swedes are turning away from socialism the individual always must come before the collective
@armatus99 we are still a country of individuals ..and with out capitalism and the good hearted american people..where would deutschland be..we rebuilt your country..gave you loans and protected you from the soviets..for decades..and it wasnt socialism that created the economic miracle of the 60s and 70s it was capitalism..that brought germany back...so stop bad mouthing us..you owe us..how about a little respect
Keeping taxes where they are, or even cutting them is going to ADD $ to the debt? Honey, get that Keynes out of your head. Its the peoples money, that the Gov't consumes. its not the other way around.
@scalp340 all governements use taxes, we have something called an election to vote in people to decide what those taxes should be used for and how much to tax.
ahhh more class warfare..ya know what...worry about yourself...not what others have or do with their money...you didnt earn it...most wealthy americans are self made...and you begrudge them what they have earned...jealousy pure and simple, ya want to be rich...well then work for it... why do you want something thats not yours...why do you want something you didnt earn..your like 5 year old children ...thats not fair..well dig it...life aint fair..never has been ,never will be..period
Tax breaks for the rich are spending you stupid fuck!!! What a double speak GOP BULL SHIT LIE!!! Andrea Mitchell gets schooled on taxes by Sen Judd Gregg????? WHAT A FUCKEN JOKE!!! more like Sen. Judd Gregg made himself chock on his own dick. You consevaturds crack me up when you twist shit like this and then you all jump in with more lies and bull shit to try and convince yourself that it is the truth. Go a head with your dumb ass BULL SHIT! Can you consevaturds say double dip???
In accepting the deal to cut payroll and business taxes and extend all of the Bush-era tax rates through 2012, Obama has implicitly admitted that his liberalized economic agenda against business and for bigger govt. was totally wrong. He's acknowledging lower taxes matter to growth, treating business like robber barons hurts investment and hiring, and that tax cuts are superior to spending. It took 10% unemployment and 63 lost House seats for this reality to get past his libreral brainwashing.
Buffett and Gates are philanthropists. What they secretly don't tell everyone is that even they know it would be stupid to give their money to the government. They give their money to tax-deductible charities instead.
Andrea Mitchell knows nothing about taxes because she's married to Alan Greenspan. If you're taking every tax shelter known to man and screwing the guy creating money out of thin air, there's no need to care.
Hey madhatter, my mother had a book showing how all of these Washington/incest couples say different crap about different things on diff. shows, but they are married with diff. last names. And it showed all the connections, do you know the name of the book?
if any of u were serious about gov spending & the deficit then u would support reducing the millitaries 660 billion dollar budget by closing all millitary bases & most installations around the world which consists of over a 140, & get rid of homland security with its over 800,000 employees, thats a start to get the spending under control.......
Liberal Party has now become the Socialist Party. I thought liberals were about liberty and freedom. You see, they sold out to believing the government is the solution. As Benjamin Franklin's quote, "tis the only way to promote the interests of truth and liberty in the world; and surely, none but slaves and lovers of dominion and darkness can be out of humor at it." You see, liberals/democrats have fell from the party of freedom to the party of slaves and lovers of domination of the government.
What I can't understand is that some ppl still don't understand that the richest 5% of the people in America are paying a lower % of their income in tax than you or I or others in the middle class.
WIth the tax code today Walton, Gates, Koch, Buffett are all paying around 15% as middle income Americans pay 30-35%
That is why more & more of the country's wealth is moving to the top 5%.
@DillonDee1 ~ “This is the leadership team that crafted the first comprehensive financial reform bill to put an end to the bailouts, wind down the taxpayer funding of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and enforce a strong audit of the Federal Reserve,” Bachus said in a statement.
Paul, in an interview last week, said he plans a slate of hearings on U.S. monetary policy and will restart his push for a full audit of the Fed’s functions.
@DillonDee1 What I can't understand is that you continue to ignore statistics. The top 5% collectively make up over 96% of the total tax revenue the federal government gets. Those who make more pay a LOT more and this is why any tax cut should benefit them the most. Then again you're a self-proclaimed socialist ideologue so it only makes sense you continue to hate the "rich"--many of who are small business owners--so much.
@madhatter0110 So you are trying to say you are a 22 year old that is making over $250K a year??? How about a link to back up your bull shit Mr. 22 year old money man. You are backing people that do not have your economic interests at heart or mind. Top 5% pay 96% of tax revenue. So you are saying that of the $2105 Billion collected in 2009, the top 5% paid $2020.8 Billion. What a crook of shit!!!!!
@spacedude61 Not that I need to explain myself to you, YouTube does not permit links in comments and the interests of those who make over $250K are irrelevant here. Most of the "rich" that are demonized are small business owners who, when the already unfair graduated tax rates are raised, decide to either cut hours or lay off employees. Since poor people do not create jobs, I would beg to differ that the "rich" do not have our economic interests in mind.
@madhatter0110 How convenient for you not to have to explain yourself. You could just tell me were you are get this info but you can't because it DOES NOT EXIST!!!!! See 22 year old money man this is another bull shit lie because the tax is not on what the business makes IT'S ON PERSONAL INCOME!!!! If you will take the time to look you will find that the Fed passed many tax breaks for small business this year. Google tax breaks for small business. Beg to differ but you are wrong.Look around!
@spacedude61 Since you have to whine so much, I just proved you wrong by sending you several links since YouTube won't let me post links in comments. I have done my homework and perhaps you should spend less time telling people they are wrong when it is you who continues to ignore the facts.
@madhatter0110 Kid are you even reading the info at those links??? You just sent links that prove my point!!!! The middle class($45K to $80K) pays most of the tax burden!! Dude get off your knees and whip that GOP cum from your mouth!!!! I'm done talking to your dumb ass. BTW Sugi Sorensen is a self proclaimed ultra right freak and you expect me or anybody to believe that he is fair and balanced about the tax situation?? GIVE MA A FUCKING BREAK!!!!! same thing as posting a link to Fox.
@spacedude61 Unlike you, I actually read the information in the sources I use to back up the conclusion that the top 5% pay more taxes than the bottom 96%. All you can continue to do is hurl insults. Objectivity and facts triumph over insults in any debate and all you are doing is exposing your inability to refute anything I have backed up.
Respectfully, I would disagree with Senor Gregg. I believe we are under taxed in the sense that most Americans pay little or NO federal income taxes. Our tax code is too complicated and too punitive. If you live in this country, you should pay your fair share of taxes to fund the federal government. A simple flat percentage collected at the point where income is earned (like S.S) would be the best system of all. It would change our economy for the better, create jobs, and build wealth.
You can find a couple of island countries where few people want to live that you can move to & where it will be "your money".
But in most organized socities where you've roads & bridges & policemen & firemen, etc - if you elect to live there around 20% of what people earn will go to these gov't services.
The only questions are how should it be collected & how progressive should the tax be.
And all those taxes are regressive, including SS Tax which you didn't list, & that means you pay a higher % of your income on all those taxes than the richest 5%.
And now some idiots (i'm not making this up) want to make the Income Tax a so-called "fair tax" so everyone pays the same rate even though that's about the only progressive tax left.
The super-rich are already paying about 15% as the middle class pays 30+% & that will only make it worse.
@1Guitarslayer -- those are ONLY the numbers on INCOME tax - extremely misleading.
Look for the #s on SOCIAL SECUITY TAX & SALES TAXES & on the hundred other taxes where the lower & middle income families pay a higher % of income than the richest 1% or 5%.
As Buffett says - he pays about 16% & his secretary pays 32% - this is fairly typical.
@DillonDee1 ~ Representative Ron Paul, Texas Republican and author of “End the Fed,” will take control of the House subcommittee that oversees the Federal Reserve.
House Financial Services chairman-elect Spencer Bachus, an Alabama Republican, has chosen Paul to lead the panel’s domestic monetary policy subcommittee when Republicans take the House majority next month, the committee chairman said today.
Don't give me this "organized society" shit. Owebummer and the Dems just borrowed TRILLIONS of bucks from the Chinese, ok stupid where are the bridges roads etc? There are none dummy. Even your hero says there are no "shovel ready projects" the only shovel he has is the one trying to bury America.
The democrats painted themselves into a corner with their rhetoric - they call it a tax cut to keep taxes at their current levels. They piss and moan about fiscal discipline when they have no credibility when it comes to fiscal discipline. They exploit the arguments by saying "economists say" this and "economists believe" that... and we know those are lies. They use appeals for credibility where they have none, economics. Democrats know socialism, that's all they accept. They are driven by it.
"Oh, Bill Gates and the other Billionaires say a tax cut is not good" Well, Bitchell, Gates and the Google brothers and guess who? BLOOMBERG, only get paid a "dollar a year". So they can avoid, guess what? TAXES. I just don't see all these people with money giving it all up. If Bill Gates didn't have a billion $'s do you think anyone would look twice at that goofy looking, nerd? At least Paul Allen knows it takes cash to stock his boat with good looking broads. Hey Bitchell your pawned, Ubetcha
Sacrificing all of your personal income in order to protect it from being taxed, something about that just doesn't settle well with me. It's kind of like burning your house down in order to prevent it from being burglarized.
That is my point. They all take a "dollar a year" to AVOID TAXES. Did you read a few weeks ago that places like Google do some sort of "money sandwich" shipping it from country to country, thus avoiding paying taxes here in America. Now, if you or I shifted $ from place to place, bank to bank to hide it from the IRS that's called........TAX EVASION!. Bitchell quotes them like it's noble. But you never see them send more, do you? NO. Think Gates will get a hand up his ass@an airport?no
I have trouble taking you seriously when you resort to childish puns and name-calling. But to try to get to your point, what good does it do to save your personal income from taxes, when you no longer have that source of personal income?? I'm not seeing how taking a dollar a year results in more income than taking in $15 million a year, even with taxes.
Please, read the Business pages, it's all right there. Bloomberg not only has a "dollar a year" clause for being Mayor of NY, he has billions in "charity" funds and or a "non-profit" where all they have to do is give out a certain amount a year and presto! The billions are not subject to TAXES. whoopie
@btwall60 That is not tax evasion - It is not unethical to earn compensation in ways that incur lower taxes. That is called personal finance, a subject to which you are asserting is unethical by its nature. People controlling their own money is only ethical. Your arguments are conspiracy.
Well, nobody can "characterize" you cause' you don't got no character, and especially no picture and half your "sub/friends" have no pic either. I know plenty of Italian guys the FBI put in jail that were doing the exact same thing the Google Bros, Bloomberg, Gates, etc are doing. Which is LAUNDERING MONEY.
@btwall60 - only part of the story - although Gates & Bloomberg & others may take only a $1 salary they still have a ton of dividend income which places them way up in the upper income bracket.
@DillonDee1 As far as Bloomberg not taking a salary or government pension he is saving taxpayers a lot more money then what he would pay in taxes if he did take a salary. Gates and any of those billionaires who want to pay higher taxes I say go for it. They can always report on their tax return more income then they actually made or higher dividends, capitol gains etc. They can claim only them self and no dependents on their W4 to pay more tax. Or they can just gift the government a big check.
@quizerry the IRS will except overpayments for the general fund. Buffet, Gates etc... don't need to lie, they can just write a check. But they don't... they are hypicrites.
Liberals aren't interested in getting Americans back to work, they want as many people dependent on government as possible. If people are dependant on government they will continue to vote for the ones who gives them freebies...the liberal/democrats. Liberals don't believe in indivudual responsibility or self-reliance, these two values are despised by liberals. Liberals live in a state of emotion, not in facts, reality or common sense.
Your theory is flawed in one aspect: poor people are far less likely to vote than those in the middle class or upper class brackets. In terms of voter turnouts, the poor and minorities are greatly underrepresented.
So if the goal is to make a large number of people poor and dependent on government programs, it would be self-defeating, as the very people whom have just been converted to supporting the democratic party are in themselves a very unreliable voting bloc.
This bitch gets OWNED! Take a look on her stupid face at the very end where she now knows he has completely NOT taken on her Left wing premise of a question.
And tell me Andrea Bitchell, when was the last time you and the whole of the Leftie media said the words "deficit" in the past two years? Owebummer and the Dem crew have borrowed trillions and for what? Nothing. The debt we owe the Chinese has been going through the roof and none of you have said a word. It's the people's $ Bitchell.
The dems would lose all power if we repealed the income tax entirely. They couldn't play gods anymore, determining who gets who's money, while on the take themselves. What total scumbags they are.
This is why the income tax needs to be eliminated. It is not the government's business to know how much money anybody makes or how much money they have. If you want to cut the govt budget, then start by cutting the IRS.
Eliminating the income tax would be a major step to turning our country away from socialism. Having to report your income to the govt is evil.
Yes... the GOP and mainstream Right believe it's "your money", except when it comes to bullshit wars in the Middle East and the military-industrial complex. Oh, and don't forget corporate welfare and all kinds goodies for business. If they're serious about this "free market" thing, why do they rarely talk about CORPORATE WELFARE, for one thing??
I'll take your crap about "it's not your money" more seriously, Radiovice, when I start hearin the tea party go after the HUGE SPENDERS on the Right with their overbloated defense budgets (and Obama somehow expanding that by 4% in his first year, oddly enough). Yes, we need deficit reduction and balancing the budget, but if we can take advantage of a low-cost opportunity like expiring rich tax cuts to help solve the deficit problem, why not?? Besides, it's only a 3% difference. 3%!
3% of 250,000 is only a little over 8 grand. 8 grand! Yeah... like that's SUCH a big fucking cost that all the small businesses are gonna shut down. lol. Judd Gregg and his cronies are so wrong on this issue, and they're fucking morons for thinking our economy can't handle 3% tax increase on THE TOP BRACKET. They seem to think the only people who POSSIBLY create jobs or spend money for growth is the top bracket, while everyone else's spending is "irrelevant." At least that's how they come off.
A business can't function without customers who HAVE MONEY, Judd. And if they don't have that money or have a lot less, that's less demand. Less demand=MORE JOBS LOST and less created. You don't want that, do you, Gregg?
The so-called job creators cannot create jobs unless the demand is there! Duh. Supply doesn't create its own demand. It's almost like the GOP got schooled in Say's Law during college, or they got special "Say's Law" classes everyone else refused.
It's not gonna fuckin matter if the rich get to keep an extra 3% if the demand from CUSTOMERS simply isn't there. That's why it only makes sense to extend these unemployment benefits and keep tax relief for the middle and lower classes. It makes almost no sense to waste time bitching about letting the top bracket keep an extra 3% they can't do much with right now. Except hoard
And there is still to this day ZERO proof that contractionary fiscal policy (i.e. cutting spending massively) is necessarily stimulative. Sure, some people point to a few examples in recent history, but they are confusing correlation with causation. Until I see a study that DIRECTLY shows that cutting gov't spending massively automatically creates its own prosperity, I ain't buying it. The stimulus bill may have failed, but that doesn't mean gov't is totally useless in the stimulus arena.
God gave you a brain, you should use it and try some common sense, like Gov. Palin does. So if the government quits spending money on socialist programs, you don't think the US would be more productive. Don't you know the history of this capitialist republic????? And what made it unique so that the world over, we are known for freedom and the American Dream. No, not a cuban dream or a china dream or swedish dream or french dream. It's capitalism, stooopid!
Why don't you conserve energy like a good tree hugger and turn off your computer, because right now you are wasting electricity. If you worried about the planet warming you should welcom the arctice breeze coming down and polarizing the lower 48 so we can put a freeze on obama and the dems. Palin 2012
don't you know the republicans are just stimulating the economey. You progressives do like when Obama stimulates the economy with his projects. I thought the stimulus bill was fantastic, but it just wasn't big enought. You should be a contorsionist.
Once you've made your first billion, I imagine it becomes rather easy to say "now that I've succeeded, let's make it harder for others to do the same."
Andrea...like ALL libs...is a moron w/ no understanding of how money works! So great to watch the left meltdown over this issue! I love basking in the hate they have for each other! :))))
Andrea...like ALL libs...is a moron w/ no understanding of how money works! So great to watch the left meltdown over this issue! I love basking in the hate they have for each other! :))))
that last lane Sen Gregg said should be repeated to people like Gates and Buffet who want to pay more taxes; write the government a check, they accept donations.
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How can he make the argument that 'your money is your money not the govs' and gov spend too much when our tax dollars pays his salary since he is a public service official and congress agreed to give themselves a pay raise, and he was the author of the bailout and used our money to help the secure his multimillion$ investment he had in Bank of America. I don't like to choice sides but I want them to tell the truth.
JCrumzz 3 months ago
How can make the arguement that 'your money is your money not the governments' and gov. spend too much when our tax dollars pay salary since he is a public service official and congress agreed to give themselves a pay raise, and he was the author of the bailout and used our money to help the secure his multimillion$ investment he had in Bank of America. I don't like to choice sides but I want them to tell the truth.
JCrumzz 3 months ago
Conmessa is a bimbo. Try as she may to be an intellectual it just doesn't work. It's clear she was embarassed and likely sweating. Whenever a co-anchor has to come to your rescue you know you screwed up. Way out of her league. By the way where is Contessa these days? Lobbying to keep the Republicans from giving "no money" to education? Dumbass!
cnychu 10 months ago
It's not a TAX CUT - nitwit! NO-BO-DY is getting a TAX CUT from this thing. The Democrats are proposing a TAX HIKE - RAISING TAXES. If Washington would CUT SPENDING they wouldn't have to BORROW money. Get it, people? Gee whizz! The media foofs are stupid. NO ONE IS GETTING A TAX CUT!
miazagora 1 year ago
why do liberals think that government is giving the rich money...its their money and they earned it! liberals don't give they TAKE!
PatricksTime 1 year ago
america: shining beacon of idiocracy....and the sad part is, i even believe most of those people with incomes in the millions WANT to pay more taxes. poor americans, i couldnt live in a country with such an evil like the gop...
armatus99 1 year ago
@armatus99 stay in your country then. didnt we kick your behind once already. U have alot of fools there that followed hitler and your people killed innocent people. whos the idiot?
alholds 1 year ago
@alholds for the last decade, clearly the united states. and its so embarressing when all you can bring is hitler^^. uhhhh and your people killed and enslaved innocent people too. all those fools in the south....i hope you see what a bs argument that is ;=)
armatus99 1 year ago
@armatus99 tosee the future, just look at the past.Ulost ww1 and ww2. you followed1 man that killed MILLIONS of people right in front of you. Ur a joke and your country disgusts me!
alholds 1 year ago
@alholds well, i cant do anything against your lack of education, which frankly i find disgusting. instead of looking at this party and debating wether or not its killing the states you rather throw some of your 5th grade history at me. go ahead, but i seriously suggest some study of gop policy and history of germany ;)
and greet those indians for me k ..no wait, you killed them all,damn...
armatus99 1 year ago
@armatus99..why wouldnt you want to live here...lets look at some facts..germans pay 60 % of their income to be taken care of cradle to grave..no doubt the german people have produced some brilliant minds and truth be told some great military minds..but germans have a herd mentality..lets take a look at freedom.. you do not have in germany....free speech is restricted.. an unarmed population..(the exact reason the usa will never have a hitler/or a kaiser)an unwavering obedience to authority...
Keys2Eden 1 year ago
@Keys2Eden thats right,we pay taxes,thats why we have a good infrastructure, no collapsing bridges over here ;). we have free college for students.there will never be a homeless family cause of healthcare costs. now freedom: we can gather wereever we want, when we want. the military cant be used inside our borders, i am free, we are free. citing prison numbers way more than you ;) we are a peaceful people, we dont want guns for everyone.
and whatever you mean by "herdmentality"
armatus99 1 year ago
@armatus99 americans acted like a frightened herd after 911, giving bush extrordinary powers, and invading a country under false pretenses, NOT once questioned by those who should. that was herdmentality...
im not saying youre somalia, but you have so many people in charge who are soooo fucked up/dumb/ignorant... i mostly dont like my politicians, but compared to the us...thanks but no thanks
armatus99 1 year ago
@armatus99lol come on now...and saddam was an angel...we took out a dictator..what we should have done with hitler to begin with...and with all the shady history the germans have ..how dare any european country judge us..we have brought freedom to the world..last word my friend..i have german blood..as do many americans..why are we so different..because we love freedom..not big government..
Keys2Eden 1 year ago
@armatus99 herd mentality..means you are a collective...you are followers..not leaders... we now see socialism collapsing all over europe...and it has caused untold problems here.. as far as infrastructure is concerned..we have more bridges more roads..more autos, more people..more of everything than germany ,and what happens when germany runs out of money to bail out the rest of a failed europe.the swedes are turning away from socialism the individual always must come before the collective
Keys2Eden 1 year ago
@armatus99 we are still a country of individuals ..and with out capitalism and the good hearted american people..where would deutschland be..we rebuilt your country..gave you loans and protected you from the soviets..for decades..and it wasnt socialism that created the economic miracle of the 60s and 70s it was capitalism..that brought germany back...so stop bad mouthing us..you owe us..how about a little respect
Keys2Eden 1 year ago
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judd, get your head out of your ass
DynamicRebel 1 year ago
Keeping taxes where they are, or even cutting them is going to ADD $ to the debt? Honey, get that Keynes out of your head. Its the peoples money, that the Gov't consumes. its not the other way around.
scalp340 1 year ago
@scalp340 all governements use taxes, we have something called an election to vote in people to decide what those taxes should be used for and how much to tax.
guyv00 1 year ago
This is creepy. Judd Gregg's voice sounds exactly like Ron Pauls voice.
SharkDude1 1 year ago
Liberals are authoritarian and tyrannical by natural so of course they think peoples own money is the rightful ownership of the government.
RealityStar9 1 year ago
ahhh more class warfare..ya know what...worry about yourself...not what others have or do with their money...you didnt earn it...most wealthy americans are self made...and you begrudge them what they have earned...jealousy pure and simple, ya want to be rich...well then work for it... why do you want something thats not yours...why do you want something you didnt earn..your like 5 year old children ...thats not fair..well dig it...life aint fair..never has been ,never will be..period
Keys2Eden 1 year ago
Tax breaks for the rich are spending you stupid fuck!!! What a double speak GOP BULL SHIT LIE!!! Andrea Mitchell gets schooled on taxes by Sen Judd Gregg????? WHAT A FUCKEN JOKE!!! more like Sen. Judd Gregg made himself chock on his own dick. You consevaturds crack me up when you twist shit like this and then you all jump in with more lies and bull shit to try and convince yourself that it is the truth. Go a head with your dumb ass BULL SHIT! Can you consevaturds say double dip???
spacedude61 1 year ago
In accepting the deal to cut payroll and business taxes and extend all of the Bush-era tax rates through 2012, Obama has implicitly admitted that his liberalized economic agenda against business and for bigger govt. was totally wrong. He's acknowledging lower taxes matter to growth, treating business like robber barons hurts investment and hiring, and that tax cuts are superior to spending. It took 10% unemployment and 63 lost House seats for this reality to get past his libreral brainwashing.
ObowMao666 1 year ago
Buffett and Gates are philanthropists. What they secretly don't tell everyone is that even they know it would be stupid to give their money to the government. They give their money to tax-deductible charities instead.
hodoprime 1 year ago
Andrea Mitchell knows nothing about taxes because she's married to Alan Greenspan. If you're taking every tax shelter known to man and screwing the guy creating money out of thin air, there's no need to care.
madhatter0110 1 year ago
@madhatter0110
Hey madhatter, my mother had a book showing how all of these Washington/incest couples say different crap about different things on diff. shows, but they are married with diff. last names. And it showed all the connections, do you know the name of the book?
btwall60 1 year ago
if any of u were serious about gov spending & the deficit then u would support reducing the millitaries 660 billion dollar budget by closing all millitary bases & most installations around the world which consists of over a 140, & get rid of homland security with its over 800,000 employees, thats a start to get the spending under control.......
jetbtkng 1 year ago
Liberal Party has now become the Socialist Party. I thought liberals were about liberty and freedom. You see, they sold out to believing the government is the solution. As Benjamin Franklin's quote, "tis the only way to promote the interests of truth and liberty in the world; and surely, none but slaves and lovers of dominion and darkness can be out of humor at it." You see, liberals/democrats have fell from the party of freedom to the party of slaves and lovers of domination of the government.
Vstands4Voice 1 year ago
@Vstands4Voice - the hippies used to hate "the man"
now they love big government taking away freedoms and telling them what to do.
"Hippies. They say they want to change the world, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad." E. Cartman
1Guitarslayer 1 year ago
What I can't understand is that some ppl still don't understand that the richest 5% of the people in America are paying a lower % of their income in tax than you or I or others in the middle class.
WIth the tax code today Walton, Gates, Koch, Buffett are all paying around 15% as middle income Americans pay 30-35%
That is why more & more of the country's wealth is moving to the top 5%.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
@DillonDee1 ~ “This is the leadership team that crafted the first comprehensive financial reform bill to put an end to the bailouts, wind down the taxpayer funding of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and enforce a strong audit of the Federal Reserve,” Bachus said in a statement.
Paul, in an interview last week, said he plans a slate of hearings on U.S. monetary policy and will restart his push for a full audit of the Fed’s functions.
This shits gonna stop!
1Guitarslayer 1 year ago
@DillonDee1 What I can't understand is that you continue to ignore statistics. The top 5% collectively make up over 96% of the total tax revenue the federal government gets. Those who make more pay a LOT more and this is why any tax cut should benefit them the most. Then again you're a self-proclaimed socialist ideologue so it only makes sense you continue to hate the "rich"--many of who are small business owners--so much.
madhatter0110 1 year ago
@madhatter0110 So you are trying to say you are a 22 year old that is making over $250K a year??? How about a link to back up your bull shit Mr. 22 year old money man. You are backing people that do not have your economic interests at heart or mind. Top 5% pay 96% of tax revenue. So you are saying that of the $2105 Billion collected in 2009, the top 5% paid $2020.8 Billion. What a crook of shit!!!!!
spacedude61 1 year ago
@spacedude61 Not that I need to explain myself to you, YouTube does not permit links in comments and the interests of those who make over $250K are irrelevant here. Most of the "rich" that are demonized are small business owners who, when the already unfair graduated tax rates are raised, decide to either cut hours or lay off employees. Since poor people do not create jobs, I would beg to differ that the "rich" do not have our economic interests in mind.
madhatter0110 1 year ago
@madhatter0110 How convenient for you not to have to explain yourself. You could just tell me were you are get this info but you can't because it DOES NOT EXIST!!!!! See 22 year old money man this is another bull shit lie because the tax is not on what the business makes IT'S ON PERSONAL INCOME!!!! If you will take the time to look you will find that the Fed passed many tax breaks for small business this year. Google tax breaks for small business. Beg to differ but you are wrong.Look around!
spacedude61 1 year ago
@spacedude61 Since you have to whine so much, I just proved you wrong by sending you several links since YouTube won't let me post links in comments. I have done my homework and perhaps you should spend less time telling people they are wrong when it is you who continues to ignore the facts.
madhatter0110 1 year ago
@madhatter0110 Kid are you even reading the info at those links??? You just sent links that prove my point!!!! The middle class($45K to $80K) pays most of the tax burden!! Dude get off your knees and whip that GOP cum from your mouth!!!! I'm done talking to your dumb ass. BTW Sugi Sorensen is a self proclaimed ultra right freak and you expect me or anybody to believe that he is fair and balanced about the tax situation?? GIVE MA A FUCKING BREAK!!!!! same thing as posting a link to Fox.
spacedude61 1 year ago
@spacedude61 Unlike you, I actually read the information in the sources I use to back up the conclusion that the top 5% pay more taxes than the bottom 96%. All you can continue to do is hurl insults. Objectivity and facts triumph over insults in any debate and all you are doing is exposing your inability to refute anything I have backed up.
madhatter0110 1 year ago
Thats a lie 1:43!
58fenix 1 year ago
Respectfully, I would disagree with Senor Gregg. I believe we are under taxed in the sense that most Americans pay little or NO federal income taxes. Our tax code is too complicated and too punitive. If you live in this country, you should pay your fair share of taxes to fund the federal government. A simple flat percentage collected at the point where income is earned (like S.S) would be the best system of all. It would change our economy for the better, create jobs, and build wealth.
CommonSenseJoe 1 year ago
I get sick of people saying "It's their money".
You can find a couple of island countries where few people want to live that you can move to & where it will be "your money".
But in most organized socities where you've roads & bridges & policemen & firemen, etc - if you elect to live there around 20% of what people earn will go to these gov't services.
The only questions are how should it be collected & how progressive should the tax be.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
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1Guitarslayer 1 year ago
@1Guitarslayer
they flagged this as spam geetslayer, to much truth for the Lefties
btwall60 1 year ago
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1Guitarslayer 1 year ago
@1Guitarslayer
oh, I click down and here's more truth, :)
btwall60 1 year ago
@DillonDee1 ~ IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax tax) ~
State Unemployment ~ Tax (SUTA) ~
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) ~ Cont…
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax ~ Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax ~ Gasoline Tax ~ Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax ~ Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes ~ Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax ~
AND DON’T FORGET INCOME TAX
TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!
1Guitarslayer 1 year ago
@1Guitarslayer - great listing!
And all those taxes are regressive, including SS Tax which you didn't list, & that means you pay a higher % of your income on all those taxes than the richest 5%.
And now some idiots (i'm not making this up) want to make the Income Tax a so-called "fair tax" so everyone pays the same rate even though that's about the only progressive tax left.
The super-rich are already paying about 15% as the middle class pays 30+% & that will only make it worse.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
@DillonDee1 Heres the real numbers from the US government Tax Policy Center:
Top 1% pay 38%
Top 5% pay 59%
47% of Households pay 0%... which of course is the 800 pound gorilla dem'rats won't talk about, fair my ass.
1Guitarslayer 1 year ago
@1Guitarslayer -- those are ONLY the numbers on INCOME tax - extremely misleading.
Look for the #s on SOCIAL SECUITY TAX & SALES TAXES & on the hundred other taxes where the lower & middle income families pay a higher % of income than the richest 1% or 5%.
As Buffett says - he pays about 16% & his secretary pays 32% - this is fairly typical.
DillonDee1 1 year ago 2
@DillonDee1 ~ Representative Ron Paul, Texas Republican and author of “End the Fed,” will take control of the House subcommittee that oversees the Federal Reserve.
House Financial Services chairman-elect Spencer Bachus, an Alabama Republican, has chosen Paul to lead the panel’s domestic monetary policy subcommittee when Republicans take the House majority next month, the committee chairman said today.
1Guitarslayer 1 year ago
@DillonDee1
Don't give me this "organized society" shit. Owebummer and the Dems just borrowed TRILLIONS of bucks from the Chinese, ok stupid where are the bridges roads etc? There are none dummy. Even your hero says there are no "shovel ready projects" the only shovel he has is the one trying to bury America.
btwall60 1 year ago
The democrats painted themselves into a corner with their rhetoric - they call it a tax cut to keep taxes at their current levels. They piss and moan about fiscal discipline when they have no credibility when it comes to fiscal discipline. They exploit the arguments by saying "economists say" this and "economists believe" that... and we know those are lies. They use appeals for credibility where they have none, economics. Democrats know socialism, that's all they accept. They are driven by it.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
"Oh, Bill Gates and the other Billionaires say a tax cut is not good" Well, Bitchell, Gates and the Google brothers and guess who? BLOOMBERG, only get paid a "dollar a year". So they can avoid, guess what? TAXES. I just don't see all these people with money giving it all up. If Bill Gates didn't have a billion $'s do you think anyone would look twice at that goofy looking, nerd? At least Paul Allen knows it takes cash to stock his boat with good looking broads. Hey Bitchell your pawned, Ubetcha
btwall60 1 year ago
@btwall60
Sacrificing all of your personal income in order to protect it from being taxed, something about that just doesn't settle well with me. It's kind of like burning your house down in order to prevent it from being burglarized.
11111110 1 year ago
@11111110
That is my point. They all take a "dollar a year" to AVOID TAXES. Did you read a few weeks ago that places like Google do some sort of "money sandwich" shipping it from country to country, thus avoiding paying taxes here in America. Now, if you or I shifted $ from place to place, bank to bank to hide it from the IRS that's called........TAX EVASION!. Bitchell quotes them like it's noble. But you never see them send more, do you? NO. Think Gates will get a hand up his ass@an airport?no
btwall60 1 year ago
@btwall60
I have trouble taking you seriously when you resort to childish puns and name-calling. But to try to get to your point, what good does it do to save your personal income from taxes, when you no longer have that source of personal income?? I'm not seeing how taking a dollar a year results in more income than taking in $15 million a year, even with taxes.
11111110 1 year ago
@11111110
Please, read the Business pages, it's all right there. Bloomberg not only has a "dollar a year" clause for being Mayor of NY, he has billions in "charity" funds and or a "non-profit" where all they have to do is give out a certain amount a year and presto! The billions are not subject to TAXES. whoopie
btwall60 1 year ago
@btwall60
So does Bloomberg make money off those charities?
11111110 1 year ago
@btwall60 That is not tax evasion - It is not unethical to earn compensation in ways that incur lower taxes. That is called personal finance, a subject to which you are asserting is unethical by its nature. People controlling their own money is only ethical. Your arguments are conspiracy.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L
Well, nobody can "characterize" you cause' you don't got no character, and especially no picture and half your "sub/friends" have no pic either. I know plenty of Italian guys the FBI put in jail that were doing the exact same thing the Google Bros, Bloomberg, Gates, etc are doing. Which is LAUNDERING MONEY.
btwall60 1 year ago
@btwall60 - only part of the story - although Gates & Bloomberg & others may take only a $1 salary they still have a ton of dividend income which places them way up in the upper income bracket.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
@DillonDee1 As far as Bloomberg not taking a salary or government pension he is saving taxpayers a lot more money then what he would pay in taxes if he did take a salary. Gates and any of those billionaires who want to pay higher taxes I say go for it. They can always report on their tax return more income then they actually made or higher dividends, capitol gains etc. They can claim only them self and no dependents on their W4 to pay more tax. Or they can just gift the government a big check.
quizerry 1 year ago
@quizerry the IRS will except overpayments for the general fund. Buffet, Gates etc... don't need to lie, they can just write a check. But they don't... they are hypicrites.
1Guitarslayer 1 year ago
Liberals aren't interested in getting Americans back to work, they want as many people dependent on government as possible. If people are dependant on government they will continue to vote for the ones who gives them freebies...the liberal/democrats. Liberals don't believe in indivudual responsibility or self-reliance, these two values are despised by liberals. Liberals live in a state of emotion, not in facts, reality or common sense.
dantheleo 1 year ago 14
@dantheleo
Your theory is flawed in one aspect: poor people are far less likely to vote than those in the middle class or upper class brackets. In terms of voter turnouts, the poor and minorities are greatly underrepresented.
So if the goal is to make a large number of people poor and dependent on government programs, it would be self-defeating, as the very people whom have just been converted to supporting the democratic party are in themselves a very unreliable voting bloc.
11111110 1 year ago
This bitch gets OWNED! Take a look on her stupid face at the very end where she now knows he has completely NOT taken on her Left wing premise of a question.
And tell me Andrea Bitchell, when was the last time you and the whole of the Leftie media said the words "deficit" in the past two years? Owebummer and the Dem crew have borrowed trillions and for what? Nothing. The debt we owe the Chinese has been going through the roof and none of you have said a word. It's the people's $ Bitchell.
btwall60 1 year ago
COST??? How does it cost anything? The money I make is mine and not the governments. Govt should learn to do with less so that I may prosper.
9mikee 1 year ago 11
The dems would lose all power if we repealed the income tax entirely. They couldn't play gods anymore, determining who gets who's money, while on the take themselves. What total scumbags they are.
joeaugust2008 1 year ago 2
This is why the income tax needs to be eliminated. It is not the government's business to know how much money anybody makes or how much money they have. If you want to cut the govt budget, then start by cutting the IRS.
Eliminating the income tax would be a major step to turning our country away from socialism. Having to report your income to the govt is evil.
joeaugust2008 1 year ago 2
Yes... the GOP and mainstream Right believe it's "your money", except when it comes to bullshit wars in the Middle East and the military-industrial complex. Oh, and don't forget corporate welfare and all kinds goodies for business. If they're serious about this "free market" thing, why do they rarely talk about CORPORATE WELFARE, for one thing??
whoo689 1 year ago
I'll take your crap about "it's not your money" more seriously, Radiovice, when I start hearin the tea party go after the HUGE SPENDERS on the Right with their overbloated defense budgets (and Obama somehow expanding that by 4% in his first year, oddly enough). Yes, we need deficit reduction and balancing the budget, but if we can take advantage of a low-cost opportunity like expiring rich tax cuts to help solve the deficit problem, why not?? Besides, it's only a 3% difference. 3%!
whoo689 1 year ago
3% of 250,000 is only a little over 8 grand. 8 grand! Yeah... like that's SUCH a big fucking cost that all the small businesses are gonna shut down. lol. Judd Gregg and his cronies are so wrong on this issue, and they're fucking morons for thinking our economy can't handle 3% tax increase on THE TOP BRACKET. They seem to think the only people who POSSIBLY create jobs or spend money for growth is the top bracket, while everyone else's spending is "irrelevant." At least that's how they come off.
whoo689 1 year ago
A business can't function without customers who HAVE MONEY, Judd. And if they don't have that money or have a lot less, that's less demand. Less demand=MORE JOBS LOST and less created. You don't want that, do you, Gregg?
The so-called job creators cannot create jobs unless the demand is there! Duh. Supply doesn't create its own demand. It's almost like the GOP got schooled in Say's Law during college, or they got special "Say's Law" classes everyone else refused.
whoo689 1 year ago
It's not gonna fuckin matter if the rich get to keep an extra 3% if the demand from CUSTOMERS simply isn't there. That's why it only makes sense to extend these unemployment benefits and keep tax relief for the middle and lower classes. It makes almost no sense to waste time bitching about letting the top bracket keep an extra 3% they can't do much with right now. Except hoard
whoo689 1 year ago
And there is still to this day ZERO proof that contractionary fiscal policy (i.e. cutting spending massively) is necessarily stimulative. Sure, some people point to a few examples in recent history, but they are confusing correlation with causation. Until I see a study that DIRECTLY shows that cutting gov't spending massively automatically creates its own prosperity, I ain't buying it. The stimulus bill may have failed, but that doesn't mean gov't is totally useless in the stimulus arena.
whoo689 1 year ago
@whoo689
God gave you a brain, you should use it and try some common sense, like Gov. Palin does. So if the government quits spending money on socialist programs, you don't think the US would be more productive. Don't you know the history of this capitialist republic????? And what made it unique so that the world over, we are known for freedom and the American Dream. No, not a cuban dream or a china dream or swedish dream or french dream. It's capitalism, stooopid!
joeaugust2008 1 year ago 2
@joeaugust2008
Do you really think the government is the only obstacle to freedom?
11111110 1 year ago
@whoo689
And customers are not going to have money if they don't have J - O- B - S., a three letter word.
joeaugust2008 1 year ago
@joeaugust2008
Wrong! it's J O B Z, there, I told you! :)
btwall60 1 year ago
@whoo689
Why don't you conserve energy like a good tree hugger and turn off your computer, because right now you are wasting electricity. If you worried about the planet warming you should welcom the arctice breeze coming down and polarizing the lower 48 so we can put a freeze on obama and the dems. Palin 2012
joeaugust2008 1 year ago
@whoo689 ,
don't you know the republicans are just stimulating the economey. You progressives do like when Obama stimulates the economy with his projects. I thought the stimulus bill was fantastic, but it just wasn't big enought. You should be a contorsionist.
joeaugust2008 1 year ago
Once you've made your first billion, I imagine it becomes rather easy to say "now that I've succeeded, let's make it harder for others to do the same."
Aeschylus 1 year ago
Warren Buffet is free to write a check to the Treasury.
MooseOfReason 1 year ago 3
Rich people like Gates and Buffet DONT HAVE TO WORK. Why would they CARE what the tax rate is?
Fools trying to slowly increase their pay over years and years DO care about the tax rate though.
medlock01 1 year ago
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Andrea...like ALL libs...is a moron w/ no understanding of how money works! So great to watch the left meltdown over this issue! I love basking in the hate they have for each other! :))))
deckertone 1 year ago 2
Andrea...like ALL libs...is a moron w/ no understanding of how money works! So great to watch the left meltdown over this issue! I love basking in the hate they have for each other! :))))
deckertone 1 year ago
What person thinks that Warren Buffett pays ANY TAXES? How DUMB do you have to be???? Good Lord. What a lying idiot.
HollywoodWags 1 year ago
@HollywoodWags
good post
btwall60 1 year ago
that last lane Sen Gregg said should be repeated to people like Gates and Buffet who want to pay more taxes; write the government a check, they accept donations.
azn1011 1 year ago 2
Just have black hawk Ben Bernanke print up a few trillion to cover the diff.
abe2517 1 year ago
Left wingnuts NEVER came across a tax increase they didn't like.
This is still more about hating Bush (Bush tax breaks for the rich - as they call it) than it is about actually knowing WTF they're talking about.
Lower income and middle class taxes WOULD have gone up if this expired.
jbpnw 1 year ago
Her and Greenspan. How did that look like...?
CRAPCANNONS 1 year ago