Update to KDE 4.8.0 and it will work great! Kubuntu is much better than Ubuntu. And it really looks like an operating system for PC. Now Ubuntu looks like it's made for phones or tablets. Try something real if you're using a computer :))
for some reason kununtu runs faster then xubuntu and ubuntu.(go figure) it has always worked for me no problems. system specs: dell dimension 4600 2.7ghz 768mb ram. xubuntu takes 2-3 times longer to do anything and ubuntu just doesn't run good at all. i've been using ubuntu and it's variations for about 4 years now because i just despise windows just my preference windows is fine for anyone just not me. my overall thought of Kubuntu 11.10 is easy to use and looks beautiful. i give it 9 out of 10
I might be mistaken but I think the "cautious upgrade" option might be the same as "aptitude safe-upgrade"
"The difference between "safe-upgrade"/"upgrade" and "full-upgrade"/"dist-upgrade" only appears when new versions of packages stand in different dependency relationships from old versions of those packages. The "aptitude safe-upgrade" command does not install new packages nor remove installed packages"
@Linux4UnMe I think KDE is alright but its not for me. I am either a unity or soon to be cinnamon user. Unity is alright for me as I'm never on the desktop, well not that much. As for Cinnamon, I think its the Gnome classic replacement we ahve been waiting for
on 4.7.4? I would like to see that... make a video demonstrating it.... Mint12kde disabled the ability to rename files on the desktop because of this bug... and kde 4.8 fixed the issue
then they must of fixed it "kubuntu or kde" with an update.... recently.... during the time of this video it was still an issue.... but i acknowledge it is fixed in kde 4.8
mint is based on kubuntu... might aswell have the original... only difference is mint has a different application set by default and different theme. nuff said
I'm currently typing this from my Kubuntu-installed desktop computer. I do get some brief visual glitches that I've not gotten with other distros on this computer, but overall, I really like it. I too used to wonder what the Folder View's function was. I don't really use it, personally.
RE: Branding: I actually like the fact that the desktop is more "vanilla", rather than branding it. I put different icons and papers anyways, so it's no biggie.
It isn't KDE being a resource hog, it is the poorly coded Ubuntu kernel loading every daemon and your mom. I really wish people would quit blaming KDE for Kubuntu's mishaps...
My question would be, can I get my old Ati 9800SE working properly on a newer ubuntu based system, like Kubuntu 11.10? The Ati legacy driver supports up to ubuntu 9.04 only. What should I do?
I have been using KDE for about 5 years now. The main thing I'd like to see them change in the future is to get away from the ribbon look, which is too similar to Windows. I think the whole Start menu, ribbon thing is outdated. Soon we should be seeing even Windows moving away from it.
@khajvah1 Gnome 3 is all right. I tried Unity for a bit too. KDE seems to have better working and more stable apps than Gnome. Unity lets you install both KDE and Gnome apps, but it's too buggy right now. Right now I still think KDE is the best. Just want them to change their start menu.
@buckeyered80 Well, i hate unity. I hated it since 11.04 and plus too buggy( in fact, sometimes it stops working).KDE is really nice, i like everything in it. I just have question. Have you ever used open suse? I am planning switching to open suse, because people say it is less buggy than kubuntu. What do you think?
@khajvah1 Yeah I used OpenSuse for a while. I liked it, but it had issues with my ATI radeon HD card back then. So that was when I had switched to Kubuntu. Otherwise, it was a great distro.
Well I got my Epson Stylus R340 printer to work with Kubuntu 11.10. Had to do a kernel upgrade. Apparently 3.0.0-12 has some issues with printer detection on some printers. Now everything works fine. Kubuntu is not bad for a vanilla KDE distro. I read that Mandrive 2011 has allot of issues, and openSuse 12.4 isn't out yet. Prefer a debian based distros. Hope you review Chakra when the new edition with KDE 4.7.2 comes out.
if u guys are looking for a kde based distro then i would suggest u guys to try pardus....it is one of the best kde distro that i have tried ...one of the problem is its package manager has only some 4000 approx softwares . but its worth trying out
just a warning for people that have intel graphics only, DO NOT INSTALL THE META PACKAGE kubuntu-full, its gonna install DKMS modules u dont need like fglrx and nvidia's and a bunch of stuff, just so u know ;)
Hello, i really like the *buntus cause they just work and since Unity is bleh and gnome 3 is TOO simple and Xfce feels incomplete, im gonna try out kubuntu and prey to stick with it
I use Linux almost exclusively at home, but KDE is still not fully suitable for this - it looks pretty, but isn't user-friendly is some small but important ways. The one that is most annoying to me is the inconsistent way it works with USB headsets - sometimes works, sometimes doesn't and not easy for a user (i.e. non-expert) to change - this is dead easy in Gnome and Unity and I can easily change between headset and speakers - therefore, I use Unity.
@Linux4UnMe awww... I wish I had a troll stalker! XD
If you like customized distros you should give Lubuntu a try! It's tweaked to the max, lets you use Ubuntu in a really low resource hungry desktop. It's awesome, even on newer hardware!
I am so glad they didn't use a unity-like interface with kubuntu 11.10. Ubuntu 11.10 is complete garbage and I won't be installing any of the Ubuntu distros again if they continue to use Unity.
@bophed I know they were trying to improve functionality in ubuntu by using unity, but it is so buggy and nothing is where it should be.
If they made Unity, or Gnome 3 an option that you could select during installation of the operating system, they would have made users happy, instead of breaking the distro!
Yeah, it's stupid that that bug hasn't been fixed, though I abolished the folder view widget as the first step in 4.0 and will do so upon installing any other. IMO I really think they shouldn't add the folder view widget by default, every other OS uses the desktop, to promote ease of use for new users, I feel that should be the default. Most people can't google to save their lives.
Else-wise, thanks for the review, you're right about the personalization, but that's not a big deal to me :-\.
The full upgrade refers to the distribution upgrade (ie. apt-get dist-upgrade) vs the 'cautious' upgrade which is just the regular upgrade (ie. apt-get upgrade).
damnnnn wheres my dislike spam? this is rare...... c'mon "twilisawesome" you havn't dislike spammed me yet??? that's right...... i know it's you.... and i know you impersonate tim you little troll whore.......
Kubuntu is ok. Not fantastic. That is my conclusion :P
If you think kubuntu is bad for gtk apps then mandriva will shock you........ who cares really..... best tool for the job...... whether it's qt or gtk...... what qt browser is better than firefox? none...... what office suite on linux is better than open/libre office? none.... i rest my case..... kubuntu installs vanilla kde....... that is what i meant. No tweaks/customisations...... just plain jane original kde.
lol downloading as we speak actually... dunno if i'll do xfce though... but definately gnome + kde... we'll see. I'll likely chuck it all in the 1 video instead of having 1 video gnome, 1 kde, 1 xfce.... etc.
What they should do is put out an update that reverts Cups back to the version installed on 11.04. Allot of people are having similar problem with this release and Cups.
No I didn't. Spent half a day trying to get it to work. But with constant system settings crashes and printer detection problems. that were not present in 11.04 with KDE 4.7.1. I gave up and installed PCLinuxOS 2011, which just plain works. With PCLinuxOS 2011, all I really needed to change was to install the PAE kernel to take advantage of my 8GB RAM. Until the 64 version comes out. Hope this gets fixed by LTS.
bad luck eh. I didn't try installing my printer with my review..... Yeah Pclinuxos is a great great distro... very well tested packages, stable rock solid
if it's possible with Youtube, you could try making the vid with Ogg vorbis, and then upload, either that, or make it with Ogg Vorbis, convert, and upload.
meh, after my latest foray into Unity, seems all I like about it is the fact that Thunderbird is preinstalled amd LightDM, everything else is meh, guess it's time to install Kubuntu!!! good thing my /home directory is on a seperate partition. nice vid, though.
@Linux4UnMe eh, I like 11.10 of Kubuntu better than the Natty version, if only because of the bug in Amorok being fixed. the bug was regarding Ipod Nano 5g.
With this release I had some problems. Particularly with cups and frequent crashes when exiting system settings. I own a Epson Stylus Photo R340 printer, and this release falsely identifies it as a storage device vs USB printer. So cups will not recognize my printer. Didn't have this problem with 11.04. Also when trying to add my printer than exiting the system settings. I constantly would get crashes. I know cups was updated today, but no fix.
did you try manually loading the cups interface via h t t p and manually installing the printer settings etc? There is an archlinux w i k i on how to do that. just search for cups on arch wiki
one of your best video's to date mate, pity about the lag(audio/video) at times but that might have been my end, but one thing that might be in their favor is that now they are going to integrate K and G things may get better
You could try ZevenOS-Neptune 2.0 Full which aims to be a better alternative to Kubuntu but still be Debian based. The final version is comming out this weekend. So I suggest testing this ;) zevenos[dot]com/neptune
The "Ubuntu" Entry in Grub is actually no bug as its a technical limitation. If they would change it to Kubuntu they would have problems with packages from Ubuntu as all ubuntu based distros use the same package for the release and version information of Ubuntu. So even Xubuntu and Lubuntu show Ubuntu in the Grub Bootscreen.
So answer me this.... why does LinuxMint say "Linux Mint" on their grub entry then even though they use the ubuntu repositories? It hasn't got anything to do with it mate
@Linux4UnMe Linux Mint ships with a modified base-files packages. Thats the reason.
In ubuntu there is only one base-files package shared by all distros (Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu).
Its technically not possible with the current build system to ship each distro with another base-files package, as all of them use the same repository. The only thing Kubuntu and co can do is propose a base-files-$distro package. But that might break dependencies very badly.
i liked how my laptops internal wireless and my usb wireless both worked right away with this i noticed the desktop folder bug as well but after a couple of attempts it let me add shortcuts to it so it was all good i never thought of deleting it and re adding it anyway thanks for the review good job dude
I'm waiting until Chakra Linux to get out of alpha/beta before I make it my main desktop since it's focus is purely on making the best kde distro ever
I too wish they would give Kubuntu a bit more love, especially considering Unity is still unusable (literally) with my Nvidia card. It's nice enough anyway, and easy to customize to my liking.
I've tried other distros like Suse and Sabyon, and they are nicer and more refined out of the box, but the *buntus offer so much extra, like Launchpad for instance, that I find myself sticking with Kubuntu, even though I have to install 2GBs of packages on a fresh install. Anyhow, nice review!
Yeah... Kubuntu does have "some" advantages over other top Kde distros such as that and alot more package selection without manually adding 3rd party repos..... Mandriva especially need to do something about that... cheers! :D
@Linux4UnMe Yea, I guess I'm also a bit biased...I started on Ubuntu so everything is much easier for me on it. I tried Fedora 14, for instance, and after I got a feel for how it worked I'll never use it again. I mention Suse because it has some great features, like there build service thingy; Sabyon is shaping up to be awesome too. I'm also spending lots of time learning Arch. But having used *buntu for several years as my primary OS, I'm the curmudgeon yelling "Get off my lawn!"
Cool Review and nice to see someone do a review on the latest Kubuntu for a change...
From what i have seen of the Beta version OpenSuse 12.1 is going to be a great alternative to Kubuntu...Sadly i have never seem to have had a good experience with any Mandriva releases.
You can install the Ubuntu Software Centre in Kubuntu, but it pulls in a crapload of dependencies for GTK. I was very happy with Kubuntu 11.04, but this just seems overly buggy. Looks like I'll be finding another KDE distro =/
I totally agree with this review. The desktop-map-folder problem is really annoing indeed. Perhaps I will switch to OpenSUSE when version 12.1 comes out. The thing I don't like about OpenSUSE is YAST (gtk and ugly and slow). I have actually installed Apper on Kubuntu 11.10 as the package installer. Muon didn't work for me...
Your reviews are getting really good mate, plenty of uselful info. Canonical do seem to have put 90% of their effort into Ubuntu, ironically Kubuntu is better I reckon. Mistake.
I meant that Suse and mandriva pay more attention to Kde and brand their distros/implement new tools/ideas etc....... they give their kde distros more love. Kubuntu doesn't really have any of that... but it's a good start for a newbie as it is really easy to use with alot more packages available out of the box. Fedora + kde? meh... about equal as Kubuntu but harder to use for the average user. Hehe, I could... "maybe" ;)
Hey Thank you, pretty nice softwarecenter. its faster than the one from Ubuntu :D
I switched to KDE finally with this release, and I won't switch back to Gnome I would say, only maybe XFCE. I just like KDE...
But I have to say that 11.10 messed up my xorg.conf ... Starting KDE ends in X Crash, only Failsafe worked. So , remove NVIDIA drivers, remove xorg.conf via Live CD and then reinstall worked... Never had this problem before... The driver from the NVidia site is much smoother :)
@illegalalien2 I had same problem when I upgraded to kubuntu 11.10. It didn't crash on my computer though... It just fall back on the nouveau drivers.
@Sverro2 For me somehow as well, but without 3D Accelartion support :D
But whats now a bit stupid, the root shell is useless now ! When I wanted to edit the xorg via the root shell in the recovery mode, it said " Filesystem is read only"... that never happened ever before :D
@Linux4UnMe Yeah I fixed it, but I still wonder WHY it happened... There was no xorg-update and I was using this driver already since a week, that doesnt make sense for me :D Only the KDE Startup up could be faster, but beside that KDE is now faster than on 10.04 :)
Great review dude, you are undoubtedly the #1 Linux Reviewer on YouTube.
Glad to see your channel is on an upward spiral, and I really appreciate all the promotion you do for the Linux Community, keep up the great work bro ;)
Kubuntu the KDE desktop version of Ubuntu... Right? Thanks so much for such a great review..... appreciate the time you put into it... very informative.
Update to KDE 4.8.0 and it will work great! Kubuntu is much better than Ubuntu. And it really looks like an operating system for PC. Now Ubuntu looks like it's made for phones or tablets. Try something real if you're using a computer :))
nick86i 1 day ago
for some reason kununtu runs faster then xubuntu and ubuntu.(go figure) it has always worked for me no problems. system specs: dell dimension 4600 2.7ghz 768mb ram. xubuntu takes 2-3 times longer to do anything and ubuntu just doesn't run good at all. i've been using ubuntu and it's variations for about 4 years now because i just despise windows just my preference windows is fine for anyone just not me. my overall thought of Kubuntu 11.10 is easy to use and looks beautiful. i give it 9 out of 10
Cuervo4992 1 week ago
I might be mistaken but I think the "cautious upgrade" option might be the same as "aptitude safe-upgrade"
"The difference between "safe-upgrade"/"upgrade" and "full-upgrade"/"dist-upgrade" only appears when new versions of packages stand in different dependency relationships from old versions of those packages. The "aptitude safe-upgrade" command does not install new packages nor remove installed packages"
BelaFleckFan 1 week ago
Now review Linux Mint KDE version 11.10.
Kr00lplatinum 2 weeks ago
People who are using kubuntu by virtualbox and having problems with muon... try to install synaptic.. and them reinstall muon
to install synaptic by terminal write:
sudo apt-get install synaptic
good luck!
rcbdesigner01 3 weeks ago
4.7.4 is bug free and the perfect desktop environment
thowd11 1 month ago
@thowd11
really? try renaming an icon or file in a folderview widget on the deskop or even an icon on the desktop without a folderview then say that :P
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe
m computer doesn't seem have a problem doing that
thowd11 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe
are you using 32 or 64bit?
thowd11 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe I think KDE is alright but its not for me. I am either a unity or soon to be cinnamon user. Unity is alright for me as I'm never on the desktop, well not that much. As for Cinnamon, I think its the Gnome classic replacement we ahve been waiting for
KaegonTheGamer 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe I tried this and I had no problem to do it.
Ray0X0 3 weeks ago
@Ray0X0
on 4.7.4? I would like to see that... make a video demonstrating it.... Mint12kde disabled the ability to rename files on the desktop because of this bug... and kde 4.8 fixed the issue
Linux4UnMe 3 weeks ago
@Linux4UnMe See this > watch?v=hGjGoKA0nvM
It's my computer with KDE 4.7.4
chilenoHDU 3 weeks ago
@chilenoHDU
you set it to private
Linux4UnMe 3 weeks ago
@Linux4UnMe Sorry, now only you can see it..
chilenoHDU 3 weeks ago
@chilenoHDU
scrap that... works now....
Linux4UnMe 3 weeks ago
@Linux4UnMe Simple, just put a note on your video explaining latest changes on the dektop. KDE 4.7.4 is bug free about this.
chilenoHDU 3 weeks ago
@chilenoHDU
only just watched it.... what distro is it?
Linux4UnMe 2 weeks ago
@Linux4UnMe It is Kubuntu 11.10, of course.. Hey! I will not make a new video only to demonstrate that was Kubuntu 11.10 ok?. :D
chilenoHDU 2 weeks ago
@chilenoHDU
then they must of fixed it "kubuntu or kde" with an update.... recently.... during the time of this video it was still an issue.... but i acknowledge it is fixed in kde 4.8
Linux4UnMe 2 weeks ago
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chilenoHDU 3 weeks ago
I Install 64bits & it's awesome
WannessiYassine 1 month ago
does it accepts more than 8 ram
monkeh88 1 month ago
@monkeh88 Sure, ALOT more than 8gb. Just install 64 bit version.
khajvah1 1 month ago
Linux Mint KDE or Kubuntu?
TheUserUndefined 1 month ago
@TheUserUndefined
Kubuntu
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe Why? Sorry I'm just curious what advantages Kubuntu has over Mint...
TheUserUndefined 1 month ago
@TheUserUndefined
mint is based on kubuntu... might aswell have the original... only difference is mint has a different application set by default and different theme. nuff said
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
@TheUserUndefined I don't see a huge difference. They are both KDE/Debian based distros. I guess it depends if you want to be minty or not.
buckeyered80 1 month ago
@buckeyered80
lol minty
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
there is many programs on windows needs to be on ubuntu or kubuntu like photoshop sony vegas fruityloops creative drivers
monkeh88 1 month ago
@monkeh88 wine ?
utki17 1 month ago
@utki17 ty
monkeh88 1 month ago
can u play gta on kubuntu
monkeh88 1 month ago
@monkeh88
i've tried san andreas in wine on ubuntu/kubuntu and it runs perfect.... as for other versions of gta I am not sure
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe oh cool, but how do you install nvidia drivers :( i think its hard
monkeh88 1 month ago
I'm currently typing this from my Kubuntu-installed desktop computer. I do get some brief visual glitches that I've not gotten with other distros on this computer, but overall, I really like it. I too used to wonder what the Folder View's function was. I don't really use it, personally.
RE: Branding: I actually like the fact that the desktop is more "vanilla", rather than branding it. I put different icons and papers anyways, so it's no biggie.
Nyarlathotep9 2 months ago
In Fedora 16 the folder view worked by default. It's a little weird on Kubuntu.
watchmen218 2 months ago
It isn't KDE being a resource hog, it is the poorly coded Ubuntu kernel loading every daemon and your mom. I really wish people would quit blaming KDE for Kubuntu's mishaps...
TheUsagiakumu 2 months ago
Great review!
My question would be, can I get my old Ati 9800SE working properly on a newer ubuntu based system, like Kubuntu 11.10? The Ati legacy driver supports up to ubuntu 9.04 only. What should I do?
DLDAcoustics 2 months ago
M. Shinoda wtf!
xKreySx 3 months ago
@gingerkid963
more so on Kubuntu
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
just installed this as my main system
MetalShreader 3 months ago
i do love ur accent
alizeroxx 3 months ago
Well this is one of the best distro i have used . its even better then ubuntu in unity and gnome 3. I just love this peace of art.
fahadabid 3 months ago
I have been using KDE for about 5 years now. The main thing I'd like to see them change in the future is to get away from the ribbon look, which is too similar to Windows. I think the whole Start menu, ribbon thing is outdated. Soon we should be seeing even Windows moving away from it.
buckeyered80 4 months ago
@buckeyered80
kde are moving to touch soon too apparently... be interesting to see what they do, although I don't know if this will effect Kde by default or not
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe
I hope not, for me gnome shell is a disaster for a desktop UI
DancingMadRB3 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe New "Kickoff-launcher" or menu for KDE is coming? Thats great.
6250valtra 3 months ago
@buckeyered80 they already are moving away from it (windows 8)
HoID1 3 months ago
@HoID1 Maybe so...I haven't really reviewed Windows 8 much. Windows is just so boring to me. Ha ha. Sorry to offend any die-hard Windows fans.
buckeyered80 3 months ago
@buckeyered80 Use gnome, mate, though gnome 3 sucks(looks like shit). Anyway gnome shell is Ok
khajvah1 1 month ago
@khajvah1 Gnome 3 is all right. I tried Unity for a bit too. KDE seems to have better working and more stable apps than Gnome. Unity lets you install both KDE and Gnome apps, but it's too buggy right now. Right now I still think KDE is the best. Just want them to change their start menu.
buckeyered80 1 month ago
@buckeyered80 Well, i hate unity. I hated it since 11.04 and plus too buggy( in fact, sometimes it stops working).KDE is really nice, i like everything in it. I just have question. Have you ever used open suse? I am planning switching to open suse, because people say it is less buggy than kubuntu. What do you think?
khajvah1 1 month ago
@khajvah1 Yeah I used OpenSuse for a while. I liked it, but it had issues with my ATI radeon HD card back then. So that was when I had switched to Kubuntu. Otherwise, it was a great distro.
buckeyered80 1 month ago
What video recording software are you using to do your video?
boggs2005 4 months ago
@boggs2005
ffmpeg in the terminal. I have a video tutorial on it somehwere in my channel. Just look for "screencast" in my search
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Thanks.
boggs2005 3 months ago
I cant stand the look of it. I like a bit more different.
superhappyize 4 months ago
@Pistenraupe91 i mean @Linux4UnMe
Pistenraupe91 4 months ago
@Pistenraupe91
lol. all good. cheers :D
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux5UnMe Mine runs perfectly on a 1,6 ghz singlecore with 1gb RAM, with Effects like Cube etc
Pistenraupe91 4 months ago
Dayum, it still gives that error @ 3:12 ??
On 11.04 it was throwing that error whilst using Kpackage too.
11.04 was buggier than my prior Kubuntu (9.04) overall. I haven't used 11.10 yet, so...
Is Ubuntu just getting less stable overall??? (Evan Dandrea's installer isn't so great for encrypted or RAID disks, BTRFS, etc, too.)
ThalamusMinimus 4 months ago
@ThalamusMinimus
Actually 11.10 seems pretty solid here, my bugs are more like hiccups.
10.10 was pretty good though 11.04 was not so great for me
DancingMadRB3 4 months ago
Yeah u re right!! Go to Opensuse if you like KDE. Why don't Ubuntu implement KDE very well? It's too bad.
MarcusFHauser 4 months ago
@MarcusFHauser
limited resources on the kubuntu side I assume.... Mandriva does a great job too ;)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Well I got my Epson Stylus R340 printer to work with Kubuntu 11.10. Had to do a kernel upgrade. Apparently 3.0.0-12 has some issues with printer detection on some printers. Now everything works fine. Kubuntu is not bad for a vanilla KDE distro. I read that Mandrive 2011 has allot of issues, and openSuse 12.4 isn't out yet. Prefer a debian based distros. Hope you review Chakra when the new edition with KDE 4.7.2 comes out.
bkovacs7 4 months ago
if u guys are looking for a kde based distro then i would suggest u guys to try pardus....it is one of the best kde distro that i have tried ...one of the problem is its package manager has only some 4000 approx softwares . but its worth trying out
zeeshangtk 4 months ago
@zeeshangtk
i've tried it before.... it has a great kde desktop. But the lack of packages and lack of 3rd party repos is a major deal breaker......
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe why? I mean you can add and install everything, every package and 3rd party repos which you can install in Ubuntu GNOME too.
MarcusFHauser 4 months ago
just a warning for people that have intel graphics only, DO NOT INSTALL THE META PACKAGE kubuntu-full, its gonna install DKMS modules u dont need like fglrx and nvidia's and a bunch of stuff, just so u know ;)
91jmda 4 months ago in playlist kubuntu
Hello, i really like the *buntus cause they just work and since Unity is bleh and gnome 3 is TOO simple and Xfce feels incomplete, im gonna try out kubuntu and prey to stick with it
91jmda 4 months ago
@91jmda
haha cool. Kde rocks man ;) if you got decent specs
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe nah, gnome 2 FTW! or xfde. ;)
kudos
JackPidwell 4 months ago
I use Linux almost exclusively at home, but KDE is still not fully suitable for this - it looks pretty, but isn't user-friendly is some small but important ways. The one that is most annoying to me is the inconsistent way it works with USB headsets - sometimes works, sometimes doesn't and not easy for a user (i.e. non-expert) to change - this is dead easy in Gnome and Unity and I can easily change between headset and speakers - therefore, I use Unity.
quercus56 4 months ago
Canonical does so little to customize KDE, and Xubuntu a person might as well install Debian and make it their own.
joe4ska 4 months ago
What up with your consistent 29 dislikes in your videos? ;)
pbezunartea 4 months ago
@pbezunartea
lol. I have a troll stalker who spams my vids with multiple fake accounts
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe awww... I wish I had a troll stalker! XD
If you like customized distros you should give Lubuntu a try! It's tweaked to the max, lets you use Ubuntu in a really low resource hungry desktop. It's awesome, even on newer hardware!
tannalv 4 months ago
I am so glad they didn't use a unity-like interface with kubuntu 11.10. Ubuntu 11.10 is complete garbage and I won't be installing any of the Ubuntu distros again if they continue to use Unity.
HHO4ALL 4 months ago
@HHO4ALL
touche
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@HHO4ALL I hear you man. I spent my day installing Kubuntu. Unity was the straw that broke the camels back. No more Ubuntu Unity interface for me.
bophed 4 months ago
@bophed I know they were trying to improve functionality in ubuntu by using unity, but it is so buggy and nothing is where it should be.
If they made Unity, or Gnome 3 an option that you could select during installation of the operating system, they would have made users happy, instead of breaking the distro!
HHO4ALL 4 months ago
Yeah, it's stupid that that bug hasn't been fixed, though I abolished the folder view widget as the first step in 4.0 and will do so upon installing any other. IMO I really think they shouldn't add the folder view widget by default, every other OS uses the desktop, to promote ease of use for new users, I feel that should be the default. Most people can't google to save their lives.
Else-wise, thanks for the review, you're right about the personalization, but that's not a big deal to me :-\.
MrSlowestD16 4 months ago
The full upgrade refers to the distribution upgrade (ie. apt-get dist-upgrade) vs the 'cautious' upgrade which is just the regular upgrade (ie. apt-get upgrade).
MrSlowestD16 4 months ago
Good job Kaddy, you pretty well covered everything thanks mate.
SeanHosie54 4 months ago
damnnnn wheres my dislike spam? this is rare...... c'mon "twilisawesome" you havn't dislike spammed me yet??? that's right...... i know it's you.... and i know you impersonate tim you little troll whore.......
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@paperclipgmx
Kubuntu is ok. Not fantastic. That is my conclusion :P
If you think kubuntu is bad for gtk apps then mandriva will shock you........ who cares really..... best tool for the job...... whether it's qt or gtk...... what qt browser is better than firefox? none...... what office suite on linux is better than open/libre office? none.... i rest my case..... kubuntu installs vanilla kde....... that is what i meant. No tweaks/customisations...... just plain jane original kde.
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
They do not include wallpapers because of size. You have a button that says install default wallpapers.
dude0that0kicks0ass 4 months ago
@dude0that0kicks0ass
lol that is bollocks mate
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
kool now do the new saybayon distro with gnome shells and xfce
MetalxShredder600 4 months ago
@MetalxShredder600
lol downloading as we speak actually... dunno if i'll do xfce though... but definately gnome + kde... we'll see. I'll likely chuck it all in the 1 video instead of having 1 video gnome, 1 kde, 1 xfce.... etc.
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Linux4Me, what distro are you running on your main desktop?.
bkovacs7 4 months ago
@bkovacs7
ArchLinux all day, everyday, and aint ever leaving arch for another distro ;)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
What they should do is put out an update that reverts Cups back to the version installed on 11.04. Allot of people are having similar problem with this release and Cups.
bkovacs7 4 months ago
No I didn't. Spent half a day trying to get it to work. But with constant system settings crashes and printer detection problems. that were not present in 11.04 with KDE 4.7.1. I gave up and installed PCLinuxOS 2011, which just plain works. With PCLinuxOS 2011, all I really needed to change was to install the PAE kernel to take advantage of my 8GB RAM. Until the 64 version comes out. Hope this gets fixed by LTS.
bkovacs7 4 months ago
@bkovacs7
bad luck eh. I didn't try installing my printer with my review..... Yeah Pclinuxos is a great great distro... very well tested packages, stable rock solid
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
if it's possible with Youtube, you could try making the vid with Ogg vorbis, and then upload, either that, or make it with Ogg Vorbis, convert, and upload.
Arceusdude222 4 months ago
@Arceusdude222
what for?
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe to possibly fix those audio/video sync problems. though honestly, I probably am talking about something I know nothing about.
Arceusdude222 4 months ago
@Arceusdude222
nar it wasn't a problem with the codecs i use.... it is likely ffmpeg at fault.... either that or something in buntu inteferring with it.
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe hmmm, interesting, I'll have to look into that if I make a web video,
Arceusdude222 4 months ago
meh, after my latest foray into Unity, seems all I like about it is the fact that Thunderbird is preinstalled amd LightDM, everything else is meh, guess it's time to install Kubuntu!!! good thing my /home directory is on a seperate partition. nice vid, though.
Arceusdude222 4 months ago
@Arceusdude222
hehehe. good luck with it ;)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe eh, I like 11.10 of Kubuntu better than the Natty version, if only because of the bug in Amorok being fixed. the bug was regarding Ipod Nano 5g.
Arceusdude222 4 months ago
With this release I had some problems. Particularly with cups and frequent crashes when exiting system settings. I own a Epson Stylus Photo R340 printer, and this release falsely identifies it as a storage device vs USB printer. So cups will not recognize my printer. Didn't have this problem with 11.04. Also when trying to add my printer than exiting the system settings. I constantly would get crashes. I know cups was updated today, but no fix.
bkovacs7 4 months ago
@bkovacs7
did you try manually loading the cups interface via h t t p and manually installing the printer settings etc? There is an archlinux w i k i on how to do that. just search for cups on arch wiki
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
one of your best video's to date mate, pity about the lag(audio/video) at times but that might have been my end, but one thing that might be in their favor is that now they are going to integrate K and G things may get better
sneekylinux 4 months ago
@sneekylinux
thanx sneeky. Yeah i'm getting a lag problem with ffmpeg on the buntu end....
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
I find always found it odd that there is a Kde logo instead of the ubuntu logo in the corner
Whatevs
BinaryLinux 4 months ago
they were talking about Mint switching KDE to Debian Based.
Ubuntufrog 4 months ago
@Ubuntufrog
yeah I heard that too.
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
You could try ZevenOS-Neptune 2.0 Full which aims to be a better alternative to Kubuntu but still be Debian based. The final version is comming out this weekend. So I suggest testing this ;) zevenos[dot]com/neptune
llelectronics 4 months ago
@llelectronics
i may take a look at some point. thanx
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
The "Ubuntu" Entry in Grub is actually no bug as its a technical limitation. If they would change it to Kubuntu they would have problems with packages from Ubuntu as all ubuntu based distros use the same package for the release and version information of Ubuntu. So even Xubuntu and Lubuntu show Ubuntu in the Grub Bootscreen.
llelectronics 4 months ago
@llelectronics
So answer me this.... why does LinuxMint say "Linux Mint" on their grub entry then even though they use the ubuntu repositories? It hasn't got anything to do with it mate
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Linux Mint ships with a modified base-files packages. Thats the reason.
In ubuntu there is only one base-files package shared by all distros (Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu).
Its technically not possible with the current build system to ship each distro with another base-files package, as all of them use the same repository. The only thing Kubuntu and co can do is propose a base-files-$distro package. But that might break dependencies very badly.
llelectronics 4 months ago
@llelectronics
hhmmmm. you may be right.... It's not something I have looked into to see how
it can be done... Didn't think it would that much of a problem....cheers for the comments though man.
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
i liked how my laptops internal wireless and my usb wireless both worked right away with this i noticed the desktop folder bug as well but after a couple of attempts it let me add shortcuts to it so it was all good i never thought of deleting it and re adding it anyway thanks for the review good job dude
kingkong14957 4 months ago
@kingkong14957
cheers man
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Kubuntu badly needs a better menu. Kickoff is very poor.
I'd love the functionality of GNOME2 to be blended with the eye candy of KDE.
Laoch111 4 months ago
@Laoch111
i'm not big on the kickoff menu either, I usually switch it to classic. Lancelot menu is alright.... but the mint menu is probably my favourite
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe My favorite menu at the moment would be Cardapio on gnome 2 :D
Scotsman707 4 months ago
@Scotsman707
nice. just looked at it
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe I opt for the GnoMenu in GNOME2.
Laoch111 4 months ago
@Laoch111
yeah gnomenu aint bad
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
I'm waiting until Chakra Linux to get out of alpha/beta before I make it my main desktop since it's focus is purely on making the best kde distro ever
Nekryu 4 months ago
@Nekryu
yeah... i like chakra... but they are pretty limited in resources for development... coming along slowly though
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
I too wish they would give Kubuntu a bit more love, especially considering Unity is still unusable (literally) with my Nvidia card. It's nice enough anyway, and easy to customize to my liking.
I've tried other distros like Suse and Sabyon, and they are nicer and more refined out of the box, but the *buntus offer so much extra, like Launchpad for instance, that I find myself sticking with Kubuntu, even though I have to install 2GBs of packages on a fresh install. Anyhow, nice review!
Brutus1581 4 months ago
@Brutus1581
Yeah... Kubuntu does have "some" advantages over other top Kde distros such as that and alot more package selection without manually adding 3rd party repos..... Mandriva especially need to do something about that... cheers! :D
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Yea, I guess I'm also a bit biased...I started on Ubuntu so everything is much easier for me on it. I tried Fedora 14, for instance, and after I got a feel for how it worked I'll never use it again. I mention Suse because it has some great features, like there build service thingy; Sabyon is shaping up to be awesome too. I'm also spending lots of time learning Arch. But having used *buntu for several years as my primary OS, I'm the curmudgeon yelling "Get off my lawn!"
Brutus1581 4 months ago
Is this 64bit or 32bit?
olddellhelp 4 months ago
@olddellhelp 32bit
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
The folder view worked for me the first time i tried it...
i have a 3g ram comp and kubuntu/ubuntu always runs heavy and buggy than any other distro on my comp. even linux mint works great.
jesse8258 4 months ago
@jesse8258
I have had the folderview problem every kubuntu release for atleast 4 cycles o_0
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
I would guess maybe the default folder view has root privileges or something?
22ness0hayden 4 months ago
@22ness0hayden
nar
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
You said it all brother , great review !
Thanks.
gzenum 4 months ago
@gzenum
thanx man
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Good review! Kubuntu is faster and better! It deserves more attention!
rsaranyann 4 months ago
@rsaranyann
I only wish the devs gave it more attention to detail/branding like suse and mandriva :(
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Really good review!
DaSilentLprince 4 months ago
@DaSilentLprince
ta :)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Cool Review and nice to see someone do a review on the latest Kubuntu for a change...
From what i have seen of the Beta version OpenSuse 12.1 is going to be a great alternative to Kubuntu...Sadly i have never seem to have had a good experience with any Mandriva releases.
OmenX13 4 months ago
@OmenX13
i've always liked suse and mandriva.... but we need more kde distros out there i reckon ;)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
You can install the Ubuntu Software Centre in Kubuntu, but it pulls in a crapload of dependencies for GTK. I was very happy with Kubuntu 11.04, but this just seems overly buggy. Looks like I'll be finding another KDE distro =/
lindsaymobil22 4 months ago
I totally agree with this review. The desktop-map-folder problem is really annoing indeed. Perhaps I will switch to OpenSUSE when version 12.1 comes out. The thing I don't like about OpenSUSE is YAST (gtk and ugly and slow). I have actually installed Apper on Kubuntu 11.10 as the package installer. Muon didn't work for me...
Sverro2 4 months ago
@Sverro2
thanx for the comment... apper? don't think i've seen that one. nice
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Apper is the newest version of Kpackagekit (wich isn't called Kpackagekit but Apper :D).
Sverro2 4 months ago
8:05 File a bug?
WarriorIng64 4 months ago
@WarriorIng64
indeed.... i should. I have filed many other kde related bugs recently
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Your reviews are getting really good mate, plenty of uselful info. Canonical do seem to have put 90% of their effort into Ubuntu, ironically Kubuntu is better I reckon. Mistake.
jerrytaichi 4 months ago
@jerrytaichi
thanx man. appreciated. I actually agree
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
I must say, Kubuntu IS the best ubuntu release out there atm.
This whole unity thing sucks and it's way too slow.
And the Kubuntu software are far more stable too, I think.
But you said Suse is better than kubuntu?
I haven't tried suse. But I think I remember someone said Fedora w/ KDE is the best KDE OS atm. Is that true?
I have an idea. If you could and had the chance to.
Could you do a huge linux OS DE test?
Best new OS's with KDE, Gnome 2, Gnome Shell, Unity, LXDE, XFCE, Mate and E17 atm.
blackoutworm 4 months ago
@blackoutworm
I meant that Suse and mandriva pay more attention to Kde and brand their distros/implement new tools/ideas etc....... they give their kde distros more love. Kubuntu doesn't really have any of that... but it's a good start for a newbie as it is really easy to use with alot more packages available out of the box. Fedora + kde? meh... about equal as Kubuntu but harder to use for the average user. Hehe, I could... "maybe" ;)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Hey Thank you, pretty nice softwarecenter. its faster than the one from Ubuntu :D
I switched to KDE finally with this release, and I won't switch back to Gnome I would say, only maybe XFCE. I just like KDE...
But I have to say that 11.10 messed up my xorg.conf ... Starting KDE ends in X Crash, only Failsafe worked. So , remove NVIDIA drivers, remove xorg.conf via Live CD and then reinstall worked... Never had this problem before... The driver from the NVidia site is much smoother :)
illegalalien2 4 months ago
@illegalalien2 I had same problem when I upgraded to kubuntu 11.10. It didn't crash on my computer though... It just fall back on the nouveau drivers.
Sverro2 4 months ago
@Sverro2 For me somehow as well, but without 3D Accelartion support :D
But whats now a bit stupid, the root shell is useless now ! When I wanted to edit the xorg via the root shell in the recovery mode, it said " Filesystem is read only"... that never happened ever before :D
illegalalien2 4 months ago
@illegalalien2
yeah strange.. ohwell, you fixed it. heh
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Yeah I fixed it, but I still wonder WHY it happened... There was no xorg-update and I was using this driver already since a week, that doesnt make sense for me :D Only the KDE Startup up could be faster, but beside that KDE is now faster than on 10.04 :)
illegalalien2 4 months ago
Great review dude, you are undoubtedly the #1 Linux Reviewer on YouTube.
Glad to see your channel is on an upward spiral, and I really appreciate all the promotion you do for the Linux Community, keep up the great work bro ;)
BelaFleckFan 4 months ago
Kubuntu the KDE desktop version of Ubuntu... Right? Thanks so much for such a great review..... appreciate the time you put into it... very informative.
LudwigSpiegel 4 months ago
@LudwigSpiegel
that is correct. And thanx for the comment :D
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago