@moffett8 - talk to HHOPWR about that ... he has taken this simplistic design to another level of performance ... keep in mind, this stuff is 2 years old now ... when I showed this design, there only a handful of people doing it this way ... today it is pretty much the standard ... but the leading edge has pushed forward a bit ...
thank you! your videos are great & easy to folow,i can do every thing by myself i just dont know how to make the rubber seals can i buy them from you ? (or any one els) & have them mailed to me to Taiwan? will this cell work with the electronic sercut designd by "Zero" do u use nutral plats? what is ur HHO Liter/min at12v production? i have so many questens but i think itll do for now. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE GREAT WORK!
my devices are typically powered off standard US wall current, 120vAC. I use a bridge rectifier/capacitor combo and sometimes a Variac. The power applied is normally about 150vDC with a 120Hz pulse. I use between 60 and 110 plated depending on what my plans are but try to maintain voltage per plate gap in the 2v-2.5v range. So yes, I use a LOT of neutral plates. Typically, I only make connections on 2 or three plates with all the others being neutral.
...i was scared to drill that many holes in ss plates. i watched some other videos in the past from you, but this time i'm hooked and i'd like to build something similar; the concept seems to have a lot of advantages. thank you for all your work and for sharing it with us!
if you are going to try to make a device like this by hand, I would suggest you take a look a my previous design, the design work of Tero Ranta and a couple newcommers here on YouTube called TSIMONIN and ARDENTSCIENTIST. all of these use a simpler approach that does not require so many precise holes to be drilled ... from experience, can tell you will work well. We had technical reasons for using the "bolts through the plates" design that are pushing the envelope a bit.
what is the sleeve composed of which insulates the bolts? I've actually finished all of the drilling on my 61 plate cell for the bolts. I still need to drill the water refill holes which will allow a .5" pvc h2o tube to pass through. I'll need insulating sleeves about .25" for the holes I've drilled. Thanks for any info. Keep us all closely updated :).
the sleeving material is chemical resistant pvc wire sleeve sold by the foot at mcmaster-carr ... the size is .25 internal diameter ... it is very inexpensive ...
...what if, instead of gaskets, i would use something like TSIMONIN(on you tube) to seal the plates, without the gaskets or the long bolts, just the end pieces holding everything together by a few bolts. would that work?
yes ... you will indeed use some sort of gasket or spacer material ... it must be air/water tight between the plates and must be a good electrical insulator ... I have used 1/8 and 1/16 acrilyc sheet, phenolic fiberglass and a number of other materials ... I just find the gaskets to be the simplest, easiest to deal with ... if you bolt on outside of plates, you will need a bit more intrustion into the device to get it seal but it will work fine ...
Asterisk SIP based VoIP pbx/conferencing software is the key communications tool used. Though Skype is pretty handy for small project oriented working groups.
Was that soft iron. What do you want, more amps or volts? I applied 10,000 volts to the fuel cell and got no results. But if you could simultaneously apply 50 amps it may work. I think that applying more will amps give you more HHO. I'm building two cells this way. I ordered 316 plates thick as my license plates to take some amps.
Research the work of Bob Boyce. Voltage going to the device will be about 155vDC. The toroid is used to impose three frequencies on the base voltage. I have no idea if I can make this work, but have it in my head to give it a try.
Actually, the voltage reaching the primaries of the toroid will be 155vDC and from there it will be converted from tranverse (electromagnetic waves) to longitudinal waves via the Aharanov-Bohm effect (google it). Longitudinal waves are a different form of energy which the public doesn't know how to measure yet(we'll get there). Tesla called this "radiant energy". I'm drilling my own plates now. Toroid 1/2 finished. It's gonna work as long as you followed directions. Be safe & best wishes!! =)
please be patient ... suspect will be late in July or early in August be fore I am ready to run tests on the device with the Boyce electronics ... need to get it optimized, broken in and understand its characteristics before I can do the primary windings on the coil and start experimenting with the inductors ... my understaning is tha the Boyce stuff requires a lot of "tuning" and is anything but "plug & play" ...
Google aharanov-bohm effect. That is what the boyce toroid is doing. This is very real. Longitudinal waves are nothing new. The research around them has been suppressed and the physics in Universities is watered down. Maxwell's equations are only taught via Heaviside and Gibb's watered down interpretation. Tesla's work w/ Longitudinal(he called it radiant energy) waves was suppressed by JP Morgan. Bankers are trying to screw all of us now so spread the word about this technology.
complaining dont solve the problems ... only way to solve the problem is to stop wasting time and energy finding blame; instead find solutions ... this is but one of those possible solutions ... wont solve all our problems, but might make a dent ... if enough folks are working on solutions, the problems will fall one by one ...
I'm workin' on it, I'm workin' on it ... got a buddy down the street I am supposed to hook up with early next week who has a drill press ... will be cutting up and drilling some 1 inch acrylic ...
verdict is out on the Boyce stuff ... have heard mixed reviews about its effectivness ... but I gotta try it to see if there is any way I can make it work ...
if I dont get good results with it out of the gate I may try some pink spary paint on it to see if there is something about the color that makes them more efficient ... that little auto booster package of yours kicks some butt ...
Yeah, it's spectromation of rose tint lightation which causes resonation of the spectromation to split the hydration of the hydroxygen of it's liquidation type form...
...Errmmm... ... See - I can do science, me!
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Disclaimer: Nothing I said makes sense. Painting your cell pink may or may not make it more efficient. Other colours are available.
I have to wonder if you could eliminate the current leakage between cells, how much more efficient would this design be?
moffett8 8 months ago
@moffett8 - talk to HHOPWR about that ... he has taken this simplistic design to another level of performance ... keep in mind, this stuff is 2 years old now ... when I showed this design, there only a handful of people doing it this way ... today it is pretty much the standard ... but the leading edge has pushed forward a bit ...
SmartScarecrow 8 months ago
thank you! your videos are great & easy to folow,i can do every thing by myself i just dont know how to make the rubber seals can i buy them from you ? (or any one els) & have them mailed to me to Taiwan? will this cell work with the electronic sercut designd by "Zero" do u use nutral plats? what is ur HHO Liter/min at12v production? i have so many questens but i think itll do for now. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE GREAT WORK!
vshart 3 years ago
my devices are typically powered off standard US wall current, 120vAC. I use a bridge rectifier/capacitor combo and sometimes a Variac. The power applied is normally about 150vDC with a 120Hz pulse. I use between 60 and 110 plated depending on what my plans are but try to maintain voltage per plate gap in the 2v-2.5v range. So yes, I use a LOT of neutral plates. Typically, I only make connections on 2 or three plates with all the others being neutral.
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
...i was scared to drill that many holes in ss plates. i watched some other videos in the past from you, but this time i'm hooked and i'd like to build something similar; the concept seems to have a lot of advantages. thank you for all your work and for sharing it with us!
pgpeachess 3 years ago
if you are going to try to make a device like this by hand, I would suggest you take a look a my previous design, the design work of Tero Ranta and a couple newcommers here on YouTube called TSIMONIN and ARDENTSCIENTIST. all of these use a simpler approach that does not require so many precise holes to be drilled ... from experience, can tell you will work well. We had technical reasons for using the "bolts through the plates" design that are pushing the envelope a bit.
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
what is the sleeve composed of which insulates the bolts? I've actually finished all of the drilling on my 61 plate cell for the bolts. I still need to drill the water refill holes which will allow a .5" pvc h2o tube to pass through. I'll need insulating sleeves about .25" for the holes I've drilled. Thanks for any info. Keep us all closely updated :).
crackahcrackah 3 years ago
the sleeving material is chemical resistant pvc wire sleeve sold by the foot at mcmaster-carr ... the size is .25 internal diameter ... it is very inexpensive ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
...what if, instead of gaskets, i would use something like TSIMONIN(on you tube) to seal the plates, without the gaskets or the long bolts, just the end pieces holding everything together by a few bolts. would that work?
pgpeachess 3 years ago
yes ... you will indeed use some sort of gasket or spacer material ... it must be air/water tight between the plates and must be a good electrical insulator ... I have used 1/8 and 1/16 acrilyc sheet, phenolic fiberglass and a number of other materials ... I just find the gaskets to be the simplest, easiest to deal with ... if you bolt on outside of plates, you will need a bit more intrustion into the device to get it seal but it will work fine ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Hey where does this EBN Design Team discuss their ideas etc?
UnityEnergy 3 years ago
Asterisk SIP based VoIP pbx/conferencing software is the key communications tool used. Though Skype is pretty handy for small project oriented working groups.
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Was that soft iron. What do you want, more amps or volts? I applied 10,000 volts to the fuel cell and got no results. But if you could simultaneously apply 50 amps it may work. I think that applying more will amps give you more HHO. I'm building two cells this way. I ordered 316 plates thick as my license plates to take some amps.
mikeyidh 3 years ago
Research the work of Bob Boyce. Voltage going to the device will be about 155vDC. The toroid is used to impose three frequencies on the base voltage. I have no idea if I can make this work, but have it in my head to give it a try.
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Actually, the voltage reaching the primaries of the toroid will be 155vDC and from there it will be converted from tranverse (electromagnetic waves) to longitudinal waves via the Aharanov-Bohm effect (google it). Longitudinal waves are a different form of energy which the public doesn't know how to measure yet(we'll get there). Tesla called this "radiant energy". I'm drilling my own plates now. Toroid 1/2 finished. It's gonna work as long as you followed directions. Be safe & best wishes!! =)
crackahcrackah 3 years ago
What is the verdict on the Boyce electrolizer? On the yahoo group I haven't seen anyone validiate the claims or disprove them.
Rspri303 3 years ago
please be patient ... suspect will be late in July or early in August be fore I am ready to run tests on the device with the Boyce electronics ... need to get it optimized, broken in and understand its characteristics before I can do the primary windings on the coil and start experimenting with the inductors ... my understaning is tha the Boyce stuff requires a lot of "tuning" and is anything but "plug & play" ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Google aharanov-bohm effect. That is what the boyce toroid is doing. This is very real. Longitudinal waves are nothing new. The research around them has been suppressed and the physics in Universities is watered down. Maxwell's equations are only taught via Heaviside and Gibb's watered down interpretation. Tesla's work w/ Longitudinal(he called it radiant energy) waves was suppressed by JP Morgan. Bankers are trying to screw all of us now so spread the word about this technology.
crackahcrackah 3 years ago
Cats love to purr
cribcat1 3 years ago
I like your style, You give encouragement.
cribcat1 3 years ago
complaining dont solve the problems ... only way to solve the problem is to stop wasting time and energy finding blame; instead find solutions ... this is but one of those possible solutions ... wont solve all our problems, but might make a dent ... if enough folks are working on solutions, the problems will fall one by one ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Thats some pretty good words of wisdom.
pat1huey 3 years ago
Really nice SSC, show us what that bad girl will do...
dlwammo 3 years ago
I'm workin' on it, I'm workin' on it ... got a buddy down the street I am supposed to hook up with early next week who has a drill press ... will be cutting up and drilling some 1 inch acrylic ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Well done bro
SGiHunter 3 years ago
I take that as very high praise ... thank you sir ... your work has always been some of the most creative I see out there ...
this one of mine will be a replication of a replication ... not very creative, but I hope proof of concept for a product worthy of manufacture ...
its time to get these things out of the basement laboratory and into the hands of the people ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
looking good, And a Bob Boyce circuit to boot. I can't wait!
Spike
bulldogge1232000 3 years ago
verdict is out on the Boyce stuff ... have heard mixed reviews about its effectivness ... but I gotta try it to see if there is any way I can make it work ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
I like the open source also. Great video SSC and a lot of good info. Hope to see this bad boy purring in the weeks to come.
mdbreedi 3 years ago
if I can get this device to purr as sweet as that custom hand made unit you put together, I will be most pleased ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Open Source will destroy the greedy frauds and scams.
Proud to be associated with you and all the others SSC.
Lefty
Leftwings22 3 years ago
nice
MadStu1978 3 years ago
if I dont get good results with it out of the gate I may try some pink spary paint on it to see if there is something about the color that makes them more efficient ... that little auto booster package of yours kicks some butt ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Yeah, it's spectromation of rose tint lightation which causes resonation of the spectromation to split the hydration of the hydroxygen of it's liquidation type form...
...Errmmm... ... See - I can do science, me!
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Disclaimer: Nothing I said makes sense. Painting your cell pink may or may not make it more efficient. Other colours are available.
MadStu1978 3 years ago