Part 7: Mythbusters dont know s..t!

[kuvuakoj]

i have experiment this project before but never try put into my car...i duno but the water turn very sticky and yellow after a few min when i turn it on. never had a chance to go back and bother with it...but is nice...

[EletrikRide]

@kuvuakoj Yes, SS has that problem. Its the iron and chromium. this is why I now use titanium MMO materials. Water stays clear.

[Villlaparkmike]

it works ive done it too! water gets scorching hot!

[dr07828]

Strange. That garden hose seems to come from the right side of the screen, go up near the top of your cylinder, but then it looks like it is the same hose coming down. So, what ya got a tank of hydrogen out of camera view? If you were going to make a video to trick people, you could have done a better job hiding the hose.

[EletrikRide]

You have seriously got to be kidding me, right?????

Get a clue - build one yourself, loser.

[DutchUnited71]

@dr07828 Dumb ass

[JulietsMan]

@dr07828 garden hose???? theres not a garden hose anywhere in view. you are a fucking idiot.

[imatelly]

@dr07828 go look at mine and say its fake,hho cell on my page you cant miss it

[thanushia83]

dude i am usinh it in my car. 66 km x2 (to work and from) a day only 10 malaysian ringgit

[guzguz21]

You can put some of that hydrogen on a carburator, and it will help a lot the fuel efficiency. I've seen someone that does it.

[EletrikRide]

Yes I know!

[Wiireviewsunlimited]

That is freaking cool, you could do so many thing s with that.....

[gmtt]

I thought you could power a car with solely smakebooster without any petrol input !

It seems like we still far from the day car powered solely by water !

But of course smackbooster still an impressive invention .

[EletrikRide]

I have never, EVER made that claim. Nor will I ever. This design will NEVER power a car on its own.

[JulietsMan]

@EletrikRide Check out "Daniel Dingle" on ytube. you will see how wrong you are.

[EletrikRide]

@JulietsMan

D.D. passed away recently. In his lifetime, he was never able to conclusively prove his design. I am not just familiar with his claims, I have studied them extensively. The is absolutely NO conclusive proof his claims are viable. Not only that, but this is not a D.D. replication. I will bet my very life right now today that the design you are seeing in this video will never EVER power a vehicle.

So I see how right I am, and I challenge you to prove me wrong.

[goodmd1242]

what was that thing

[EletrikRide]

It's hydrogen and oxygen

[goodmd1242]

i liked your lagh at the end

[dolinskiyfamily]

Very good job man, I made one video against MythBusters also, they sure are full of Sh...t sometimes, I think the petroleum companies are behind this... it's the last thing they want out.

Anyway - thanks!

[onecraftydude]

BTW Smack, I sent Mythbusters a challenge several times to test my system. The last challenge I sent them included a seperate challenge to Adam, Jamie and Grant to fight my Battlebot. If they beat my battlebot I will go away and if I win they have to test my System. I have gotten no reply from any of my challenges. I think they purposely did a bad job to shut up the people asking them to test this. I believe Jamie is more to blame than Adam because of his background.

[EletrikRide]

I also sent them a challenge to test my device - no answer at all...

[onecraftydude]

Lol, we do love to make explosions with our HHO. For the record Smack and several others including myself have had good results with HHO as a mileage enhancer. This may be hard to believe for the uneducated in HHO usage, but it is a fact. The reason for the increase has to do with the power of the gas being produced. How that power translates into btu's or flame front propagation is not well understood at this point due to a lack of support from the scientific community.

[Y0uTubeLicksMyBalls]

wat the hell is HHO

[EletrikRide]

Balls,

It is a term to describe the gas produced by electrolysis that you see in this video. 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen molecule from the disassociation of water - H2O. Also called hydroxy. Also call brown's gas.

Smack

[ABaumstumpf]

everybody know that HHO explodes very well.

Indeed the Mythbusters didnt do a great job, but still u cant save fuel buy adding those "things" to a car, cause u still need to produce the HHO wich takes actually more energiy than burning it brings.

If u would have an HHOtank filled with u, u can ride a ccar with it, but thats a bit different cause u still dont save fuel cause u use HHO as fuel.. no saving at all.

But it is really great fun to fill some big ballons with it, they make like BOOMM^^

[EletrikRide]

FALSE!!! And I HAVE THE PROOF!!! You fail to understand the increased burn efficiency. The savings have nothing to do with energy in/out. Another naysayer with NO CLUE what is happening here....

[soldieroffortune1974]

I have a very inefficient unit producing brown ugly rust colored water,looks like crap,runs hot if it is left on a long time, but my fuel mileage increased by 5 mpg I now get 30 mpg on a 95 Ford F-150 with 265000 miles on it. Even an amateur like me can see it working.

Thanks to Smack,and others I am learning and building a better unit.

[EletrikRide]

Right on!

[DrBongWater]

Sounds like it's time to switch to DRAINO. and not too much Draino and don't forget the distilled water. Stainless Steel only to be submerged in the electrolyte bath.

[EletrikRide]

There are plenty of online sources for NaOH

[DutchUnited71]

@DrBongWater Not all drain stuff is

100% Sodium Hydroxide that is what you want. 3 Dollars for 250 grams over here in the Netherlands. At drugstore NEED SOME.

[EletrikRide]

@DutchUnited71 Agreed - I get mine from a chemical supply outlet now - 100%

[squatchmaster5000]

amazing, but the foolish humans in power think this is a bad idea for powering cars and other things. talk about corruption.

[EletrikRide]

And on top of that, they are not the final authority on what is fact and what is not.

[bankedonk]

your hydrogen cell pwnz dude i made 1 and i dance too check out my vids :P btw 5 stars and on favorites :D

[EletrikRide]

nice!

[planexzeropoint]

ok. I got an idea that i'm yet to try... how about running a pressurized hho generator say 10bar and running the outlet pipe through some tesla turbines attached to generators to power the cell. just a thought. and hho's implosion is far more powerful than the tiny explosion that happens first so in an implosion engine this would work well and cause less wear to moving parts.

[EletrikRide]

I absolutely 100% do not agree with the implosion concept in a running ICE. It doesn't and cannot happen!

[planexzeropoint]

um ok then mate.

[planexzeropoint]

In an enclosed area, the 'burn' goes to detonation velocities (explosion about 5000 meters/sec). During the 'burn' or explosion, the BG turns back into water; with a net reduction in volume of 1860 times. The near instant volume reduction causes a vacuum so fast that we label it an 'implosion'. The net result of the explosion-implosion is a vacuum

[EletrikRide]

This is IMPOSSIBLE inside a running engine. There is not enough time for the LHC to be absorbed by the cylinder walls to allow the water vapor/steam to change phase into liquid to create the vacuum you speak of. For one thing, the cylinder walls (environment) is to hot. Not to mention the exhaust valve is already open and the resultants are headed out the pipe. So implosion cannot and does not occur.

[planexzeropoint]

well it is well documented that this is what happens. and this is the end of my communications on this matter. we're talking milliseconds here anyway good luck with your hho research mate. i wish you every success.

[EletrikRide]

Well it is well documented, but not properly. It happens in milliseconds, but only when the conditions are right. Those conditions do not exist in a running engine. Good luck to you as well.

[markmil2002]

My brother beleives that episode of mythbusters and my whole family thinks I lie about HHO working despite my car getting 53 MPG; an improvement of 39%.

[EletrikRide]

Well, I always say the numbers speak for themselves!

[ThorGoLucky]

Did you carefully document the mileage before modification, carefully measure after modification, and then remove the modification and carefully measure again? It's the only way to really be sure, and assuming that your driving was similar in all cases.

So you're improving gasoline car mileage by using hydrogen that took energy to produce. If the energy comes from sustainable nonpolluting methods, then this can be a helpful improvement until gasoline gets completely phased out.

[markmil2002]

I get the energy from a deep cycle battery that isn't connected to the car. I charge it after every 10 hours of driving. I was thinking about building a turbine for the top of the car to use wind resistance to keep the battery charge. I also considered getting a better alternator, but that would require different brackets and a lot of money.

[lazzer408]

Charge it with enegry from where?!!?!??!!?!??!?!??!!

Holy #uk you ppl dont get it.

You have to measure and log ALL your enegry consumption. Wind speeds, altitude changes, long term AVERAGES. EVERYTHING. Let someone else drive the car that doesn't KNOW the cell is in their and subconsciously TRYING to get better miliage.

We all want to see this work but have yet to see it work.

[markmil2002]

The trick is to charged the deep cycle batteries with a battery charger that hooks ups to grid power. This will take the strain off of the alternator and give you an even greater gain. In addition the grid power is far more efficient and it will only cost about 40 cents per week to charge a fully drained battery. The only downfall is constantly removing the battery or batteries to charge them. Also hydrogen has a much higher BTU than gas, that is why it works.

[EletrikRide]

Right off the grid. Or wind. or solar. Try to pay attention here.... As far as your comment on the testing - did it. And I posted the proof, right here on you tube.

[EletrikRide]

You better believe I did! And not only did I do it, but I recorded and posted my results.

[envy641497]

That's not the gas "exploding". The bubbles made of gas catch fire then pop. AKA no explosion. You fail. Mythbusters wins.

[EletrikRide]

You are kidding me, right? You can be that ignorant. You ever built one of these? Ever lit the gas? Thought not. Have a clue before running your mouth. Read what you wrote "bubbles catch fire then pop". LOL! Mythbusters lose, and I have proven it time and time again. Time for you to go home.

[sapphire2005]

epic fail, envy641497 !

[Collinizer333]

also, the gas igniting is the flippin point

so if "the bubble made of gas catch fire", then it would still be fuel!

[dpapaioannow]

ROFL...you are down syndromed

[EletrikRide]

See the vids.....

[circuit2curt]

similar to your design, maybe muliple units together in one "brick", just a thought...take up less space, maybe an increase in efficiency?

[EletrikRide]

I already have something that is going to blow you away. First to collect all the data.....

[circuit2curt]

Electrik,

 Great to see you putting the non believers in their place..Great to see all the hard work you've done online with "proof" in #'s, output etc. unlike many claims most of which are greatly "stretched". Everyone wanting to start out with a "wet" cell should a smack cell first or build off your design, instead of believing all the crap others are trying to sell them...was wondering if you thought of experimenting with a sealed "ebn" style sealed cell with cell spacing & plate config

[EletrikRide]

I'm finishing up a new design concept for testing.

[nikkoms]

You sir, have delusions of grandeur. All I see in your "88.8%" increase video is a piece of paper with something illegibly written on it. YOU'VE SOLD ME. SEND ME 100 OF EM'!! I'm gonna put one on everyone car on my block!I want you to document the time & energy spent required to charge the batteries, then to produce ENOUGH hydrogen to make a difference in fuel economy. You should also video an MPG test, not show a sheet of paper. You have negative credibility due to your crimes of douchebagery.

[EletrikRide]

Crimes? Punk. I have proof of every claim I make - posted for everyone to see. The numbers on that paper represent accurate and true data that we recorded. I also have other recorded runs here, AND I have a video proving the recharge cost. It's all here, for the entire world to view. I'm not a criminal, you are just ignorant and uninformed. Don't believe my results? Go build one yourself and see. Then run your face-hole. Prove your accusations.

[ElQuesoGuapo]

A gasoline engine already has a 99% burn efficiency. There's not much left to gain by things like increasing flame speed or burn efficiency. So it comes down to power. Power in equals power out. And the power just isn't there.

Conservation of energy, my man. Reca'nize.

I'm out.

[EletrikRide]

So thanks for all the useless calculations that don't apply. I proved you wrong without even having to crunch a single number. Before you try excersizing your "superior" intellect, you need to make sure your base assumptions are correct. In this you have failed, which is why once again I win the debate and you leave Smacked. You thought you would come here, insult me, throw around a few numbers, and race out the "hero" who shows the error of my ways. Dude, I'm not your man.

[EletrikRide]

The Law of Conservation of energy is the main thrust of my entire take on this technology. It is BECAUSE of this law that I can prove the technology I support works. I am a believer in it, and I use it to prove my case. The difference is, I use it to my advantage, analyzing and testing ways to THROW AWAY LESS ENERGY TO AN UNUSED SYSTEM, and retain more if it to use for my intended purpose. It is BECAUSE of this law that it works, not in spite of it. I win (again).

[EletrikRide]

So don't leave us - come back! I want to play some more. I like these numbers games. I can play numbers to. Don't run away - I know you are scared and the panic of the realization that you have just been publically SMACKED by someone who is clearly more creative, inspired, and in tune with the laws of nature than you are. I know its hard to handle, but you knew what you were getting into when you decided to screw with me. If you quit now, everyone will know you lost.

[EletrikRide]

So logic dictates you have 3 choices. 1 - Quit like the coward you are. 2 - try to save face and defend yourself - digging an even deeper hole. 3 - Admit your logic and assumptions are wrong. Admit you unjustly attacked me and started a battle you could not finish or win. And apologize for those attacks, showing you are more of a man than you now are revealing. Do you have the sac to swallow your pride? That's the true test of a man. Let's see what you got.

Reca'nize, "my man".

[ElQuesoGuapo]

So, to reduce gas consumption by 88.8%, you'd have to get 24.864 hp worth of hydroxy out of your 6 pack.

The remaining 3.136 horsepower is going to be coming from gasoline in the tank.

To recap. The 6 pack smack is drawing 2.04 horsepower from the batteries, and is putting 2.04 horsepower worth of hydroxy into the engine. 2.04 hp does not equal 24.864 hp.

[EletrikRide]

Your calculations are grossly incorrect. Here is why - you are assuming a proportional HP for HP. One unit HP gained from the hydroxy = one unit HP saved from gasoline. And this very first assumption is incorrect. You cannot make this correlation because it is not an equal relationship. Hydroxy gas is a superior burning fuel (as I already mentioned). The addition of it to gasoline improves it burn quality by a factor of 6 to 10 - not one. So right there you math dies.

[EletrikRide]

Also, you state that a gasoline engine has a 99% burn efficiency. LMAO!!!!! HA HA HA!!!!!!! Wow!!! You could not be more wrong. Prove it. Show your data. The rest of use recognize that an unerving amount of UNBURNT gasoline goes right out the tailpipe. Why do you think cat conv. are needed???? Much of the gas pumped into your car engine goes right out the pipe as particulates and other partially combusted pollutants. This is a known fact.

[EletrikRide]

Knowing these FACTS, one can instantly see your HP correlations fall flat on their face. And I already explained to you why. The faster, hotter flame front of hydroxy fuel promotes a more complete combustion burn. This means that less gasoline is sent out the tailpipe unused. Now, more of it is actually being used to power the engine rather than polluting the atm. I told you, a superior fuel gives you better burn value. More power. Less fuel for the same engine load.

[ElQuesoGuapo]

Assuming your Ranger is a four cylinder, it's rated at 112 horsepower. For your 88.8% mpg increase, your booster would have to be providing 88.8% of the power to the engine in the form of hydroxy.  Now, you weren't driving around at full throttle for that test, so let's call it 25% throttle. That's a fair estimation of what you'd see at a constant speed on a flat surface. That's 28 horsepower that the engine's putting out.

[ElQuesoGuapo]

252 watts = 0.34 horsepower.

So the current from the pack becomes this much power in the engine.

A 6 pack of those will draw 2.04 horsepower from the batteries and should produce the same amount when burned in the engine.

[ElQuesoGuapo]

For the sake of this argument, I'm assuming your entire conversion process is 100% efficient. Of course no process is ever 100% efficient. It's not a realistic scenario but it makes the math simple. And if the numbers don't add up with 100% efficiency, they never will in a real world scenario.

Let's look at your 6 pack system on the truck.

12.6 (A fully charged battery) volts at 20 amps equals 252 watts. (You showed a smack booster drawing 20 amps in one of your videos.)

[ElQuesoGuapo]

OK, here is why I don't believe. I'm posting this and then I'm gone. You can disagree all you want, Smack. I want this to stay on your page so others can read it and decide for themselves.

Let's look at your best ever, getting an 88.8% increase in fuel mileage from a 1997 Ford Ranger

[ElQuesoGuapo]

Did any of you pay attention in high school physics when they explained conservation of energy?

[EletrikRide]

Did you pay attention when I explained this process does not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy? Where were you when your science teacher taught the rest of the class how to determine the BTU content of a fuel? Didn't think so, loudmouth. Better think twice before busting into my comments section and flapping your piehole. There is a reason I am called The Smack, Guapo, Sluapo.

[ElQuesoGuapo]

Because you're a smack talker?

You're just making hydrogen and oxygen with electrolysis. That's cool, and you've made a good setup for that. But if you want to put it on a car, power it from the alternator, and then use the gas to run the car, you're just creating a more complex energy path with a larger net loss. TANSTAAFL

Your setup is well made and well thought out, so I know you know your physics. I can only conclude that you are deliberately deceiving people in order to sell a product.

[ElQuesoGuapo]

But you can prove me wrong. Take the gas tank off of a car and run purely on your smack cells, the car's alternator and water.

[EletrikRide]

It's impossible to run a car off of just smack units and an alternator. I never said anyone could. What I do claim, is that you can decrease your fuel consumption by using this technology. Why? Read my site and links for yourself. I'm not going to spoon feed you the info. Not only do I claim this, but I prove it every single day. The documantation of that proof is right here in my videos.

[EletrikRide]

Accusing me of deliberately conning people is an act of war. Prove it. Prove I'm lying by faithfully replicating this technology and posting your results just as I have. Right now, you are the crap talker, because you are making an accusation with no proof. I'm defending my position with reams of publically posted proof. This is a battle you will absolutely lose - so lets go. This is not the first time I have been attacked, and you will not be the last person I thoroughly Smack down.

[EletrikRide]

So I call you out - I have proof for every single statement I make, posted publically for all to see, including you. So now the burden of proof is on you. PROVE that installing a properly built Smack unit on your car will not improve your mileage by about 20%. Then explain why - with proof. Then explain why thousands of replicators are seeing the savings, including myself of course. Then explain why you are not. Bring proof before running your flaphole.

[EletrikRide]

So bring it on. Everything you have. You are about to learn a very hard lesson in humility, respect, and the need to do your due diligence before spouting off at the mouth. Welcome to Smack University, fool. I am professor Smack, and you are about to learn the value of respecting other people's space. Coming in here and running your mouth was a big mistake. Bring it.

Lesson #1 - let's talk about the flame front speed of hydroxy verses gasoline......

[ElQuesoGuapo]

Flame speed is no big deal. If it burns faster, you can retard the timing. If it burns slower, you advance. If you're seeing an efficiency gain by adding a fuel that burns at a different rate, your timing was off to begin with.

So if you're not using the car's alternator, then you're charging those deep cycle batteries at home before every trip. If that's the case, you'd see better results by using the batteries to drive an electric motor directly.

[ElQuesoGuapo]

It's a two stage process instead of three. (Chemical energy -> electrical -> mechanical versus (Chemical -> electrical -> chemical -> mechanical) You're losing energy to the more complex process.

I'll happily debate you, by email if you'd prefer. It's hard to get a good discussion going in the comments area. Can you have a discussion without spending every other sentence hurling insults? If so, this should be interesting.

[EletrikRide]

Lets get 2 things straight. first - YOU approached ME here - not the other way around. My email link is right on my site, and my site link is right here in my profile. Second - you threw the first stone. "I can only conclude that you are deliberately deceiving people in order to sell a product." And how about the high school comment?????

[EletrikRide]

So, beeeyach. Time for you to reca'nize and apologize. Only until you take back your unjustified accusations will I discontinue my insults to you and act like the gentleman I actually am. You came here ask'n for it, and now you are gett'n it. I take crap from no human being on this planet - EVER.

Reca'nize.

I'm waiting for your apology.

[EletrikRide]

The thing you are missing is the process of electrolysis and recombination of its constituents results in a more efficient process than that which gasoline offers - by a multitude!!!!! The proof is evident when you calculate how much it costs to recharge the batteries verses the amount of gasoline saved. There is no competition. THATS why there is a net savings. And I'll stake my life on that fact.

[EletrikRide]

Also, I want this debate out in the open. I want everyone to see my victory over you - how you came in here running your face and how I slammed your pride down hard and crushed your ego into powder. You are not the first to come in running you mouth, and you won't be the last. Know this - I have never lost a battle and I'm not about to start losing now. No one yet has been able to withstand the proof I bring to the table.

[EletrikRide]

Flame speed is H U G E!!! It makes all the difference in the world. Anyone who understands internal combustion knows this. The increased flame speed and hotter burn of hydroxy fuel promotes a CLEANER MORE COMPLETE BURN during the combustion process. This means more of the gasoline added into the cylinder is actually combusted and less sent out the tailpipe as emissions. This translates to more power per unit volume of gas - which means for the same vehicle speed, less gasoline is needed.

[EletrikRide]

Also, you are missing the entire point! Of course electric motors are better - why do you think I'm an EV nut? (You would know that if you did your homework). The point is that you can take an existing inferior technology (the ICE) and use a simple process of energy conversion to augment the existing process - taking advantage of the second fuels superior properties.

[PhuqueU]

Myth Busters know shit, they spew plenty of it, professional disinformation agents.

[EletrikRide]

Right :-D

[zeropointprophet]

do you belive in 100% hyroxy systems? with no gas?  if not, why?

[EletrikRide]

No, I don't believe in it.  That is why I have dedicated me entire being to it.

Some questions......

[valveman12]

Well I have seen you other vids and your passion for getting info out there about making hydrogen to improve fuel efficiency. I just want to appologise for my earlier comments. You are doing great work and I should not critisize. I'm impressed with the output from you cells. Again sorry for being such a butthead.

[EletrikRide]

Hey, no problem. Thanks. Keep a positive outlook and happy testing!

E

[valveman12]

So what!

Unless you are creating hydrogen with little energy, igniting it has been done in several videos already. Did you find a low current approach to separating hydrogen and oxygen from water? If not, this is not so special as I did it with my generator.

[EletrikRide]

So what????? You disrespectful little punk! This what. 88.8% increase in fuel mileage. You got that? I didn't think so, loudmouth. You have never done what I have done. Good chance is you never will. So check yourself before you come busting into my video and running your piehole about my little demonstration video. Open your eyes, fool.

SMACK

[valveman12]

Nothing special in this vid that hasn't been done before. You ignited hydrogen, great! All the vids out there use an enormous amount of power to generate hydrogen which begs to ask, how much power am I getting out compared to the amount I'm putting in. This is the problem with most set-ups. Did'nt hear anything in this vid about 88% increase in fuel economy. If so then that is significant. Name calling, now that will go along way!

Good luck with that!

SMACK DOWN!!!!

[EletrikRide]

LOL! I am the king of Smack. Because unlike what you have seen before, I can back up everything I do. Do your homework. You have not educated yourself at Smack U as of yet. Be informed BEFORE running off at the mouth.

S M A C K

Like only I can do.

[john333iii]

Very possible so when do you think japan will start the mass production of them and we can all say goodbye to big oil

[EletrikRide]

There are still billions of dollars worth of oil in the ground. So my prediction is you won't see this in mass production for a few decades - if we leave it up to "them". That's why me and others like me do what we do.

[john333iii]

Excuse me but a water car has been made in Japan by a company called Genepax and they already have japanese car makers looking to mass produce it.Just type in japanese water car to see it.

[EletrikRide]

Excuse me, but I already knew this - probably before you did. Just verifies that what I am doing is on the right track.

[backlash170]

its not that we have to build a larger cell but build a better engine. if one doesn't work well with the other, fix it. for instance has anyone ever seen the MYT engine?

[EletrikRide]

I agree! That is why I'm leaning towards EV conversions. See my site for more details on my project.

[subductionzone]

Yes, it is a fuel. But a terribly inefficient one. Putting one of these on your car will actually lower your mileage, not raise it. It is possible to raise your mileage by messing around with the oxygen sensor and doing a "lean" burn, but this is bad for your engine, raises the nitrates you form raising pollution, and is probably illegal and will cause your vehicle to fail its emission test. Take a thermodynamics course.

[EletrikRide]

Sorry but you are wrong and I have the proof as always. Everything you just said is 100% incorrect. See my other vids for the proof. You need to take a course In Smack 101, punk.

[john29302]

it aids the inneficiency of our cars..doesnt have enough energy by itself to do shit..but cars are so innefficient...it helps the combustion proccess

[EletrikRide]

Exactly!

[kiwiavi]

Interesting demonstration. Only problem is that a 2 liter care running at 2000 rpm uses 66 liters a second of fuel and air mix. Your 30 second clip probably created 100ml of fuel. That is enough for 1/5 or a revolution!!!. You also used at least 3 times the energy to produce the 100 ml of fuel than you will get back from the engine. Come on chaps, there 3 billion people on this planet all trying to get rich. Why has no one made a water car. Cause it can't be done.

[EletrikRide]

This generator will not run a car all by itself and I never claimed it would. This is a fuel savings device. Come on chap, try to pay attention! Also, your claim that I used 3x more energy than what is re released by the combustion is absolutely preposterous and you have no factual data to support such a claim. I know this, because it's simply untrue.

[Jimigunne]

The scientific naysayers say that a hydrogen boost system can never work because it violates the law of conservation of energy. They say you cannot get more energy out of recombining hydrogen and oxygen than you put in in order to "split" the water molecule. And since the alternator has to supply the electricity to make it work, thus robbing horsepower away from the engine, you could never have a net gain in MPG, only a decrease.

What is the answer to this?

[250stunt]

damn that is sweet. can you make it bigger for better fuel or run the motor off just this???

[EletrikRide]

See Smack Caddy vids

[Hardwyre]

"Dere ya go folks, itsa fuel!" Ya, I laughed. :)

[UshouldabeenaBJ]

artgoat, your a tool. The only people who should be talking trash about clean, free energy are rich assholes who are invested in big oil and have been trying to stop this technology since the 80's. It's works and has worked from it's introduction. MAD PROPS TO STAN MEYER, the man who originally patented and produced this technology.

[EletrikRide]

Stan was the man!

[aaronisdumbusa]

cool

[Seriouskai]

Hey Smack, I'm planning to build one of these myself eventually, however I'm curious about the production of the gas. Such as how to produce the most, would it be better with 2 or more generators, or one really big one, or would it not make a difference? Any way to optimize the generators? I'm thinking about adding an extra car alternator/generator thing to charge a second battery solely for the purpose of hydrogen generation. Ideas, tips or comments? Please send a mail :-)

[EletrikRide]

More is better!

[Audi2000t]

excellent vid mate, very simple and straight to the point. 10 / 10

[geoffconklin2]

Damn Mythbusters - nothing more than spokesmen for Big Oil!

...yeah

[agungk]

So..i suppose you've ditched gasoline all together? if not then you're a fool! you have the tech in your hand and all you do is pandering around feeling smug while billion dollar waiting for you just a corner away?

[EletrikRide]

Hello dumbass, motor mouth. Thank you for adding your worthless thoughts. If you knew anything about anything you would already know about the H2EVair project and the Smack Booster GenII. But then again, loudmouths like you talk lots and do little. The only fool here is you. The more you run your pie hole, the more foolish you become. Go to my site and get some education. Reca'nize BEEEYACH gunkboy!

[msgotu]

Such an educated sensible reply. I guess the answer to his question is "I haven't ditched gas altogether, because I am completely ignorant about physics and chemistry, and think that putting 2500W worth of power into electrolysis and devolving 1/10HP worth of output gas is what you call "Zero Point Energy." Such a genius.

You'd get much better fuel economy if you just ditched the HH and kept the O (that's what Nitrous boosters do). It still TAKES power at some point, more than you're making.

[EletrikRide]

You know NOTHING about hydrogen , LMAO!!!! 2500W??? Wow, who's ignorant now? Let's see, P = VI = 13.8VDC*20A = 276W. LOL, One thing is for sure - it's NOT you who is the genius, numbnutz. If you knew anything about chemistry you would know about the 20% delta also. Who is ignorant now? And what does HP have to do with this? Loadmouth. Looks like another fool gets Smacked. That was easy. Is that all you have, loser? Keep it coming. You will never beat me. Schooled, fool!

SMACK!!!!!

[Seriouskai]

Lol that shut him up :D

[EletrikRide]

I hate to do it, but it comes with the territory :-)

[msgotu]

How does HP related to Watts? Real simple. 1HP = 768 Watts = 768 joules/second. Of course you're factoring based on the half-cell reaction voltage (which is nothing like 13.8V) Hydrogen combustion nets 286kJ/mol, enough for

a 1HP motor to run 5 minutes on 66 LITERS of HHO gas (or 5 seconds on your one liter)

But you knew this very basic math already, since you're a geeeeenyuus. And such a diplomat as you just confirms everything people hate about the "Free Energy" dingbats.

[EletrikRide]

You do realize this is not about HP but about BURN EFFICIENCY, right? And you do know that hydroxy is 6X more potent than hydrogen, right??? No??? Oh - wait - I'm the genius - almost forgot. That is why I'm the Smack and you are not. So much for your laughable math skills. That's the 2nd time, lol! Do your homework, fool! Then run your piehole. You can do research, right? Or must I hold your hand through that as well?

NEXT!!!!!!!

[artgoat]

"Hydroxy" is hydrogen and adiabatic oxygen. It's not magic. STEEL WOOL will burn in pure oxygen. It's six times as potent, because it has six times as much OXYGEN.  Even at six times the "potency" you're still operating at an energy LOSS.

[EletrikRide]

Sorry, but you are wrong. I'm operating at a 20% energy gain. I know you hate hearing this, but its true and its proven. And who said anything about magic? I never said it was magic. This is science. And thanks for the lesson in hydroxy. I know what it is - in fact I know more about it than you do. So what is your point in all this?

[DieselHusky]

One horse power is not 768 watts it is 745.699872 Watts.

[abraxaspad]

yes.

[joedsavage]

I think he's one of the brilliant folks from the past that claimed the Earth was flat.You gotta love these overbooked smart and commonsenseless wizards.He probably just recently realized a wheel is actually round.Keep up the great work Eletrikride!

[EletrikRide]

Thanks, and he definitely proved he cannot do math. I wouldn't trust scientific "advice" from anyone one who cannot do simple conversions.

[artgoat]

For electric motor estimates, 1HP is generally equated to 1KW, due to unavoidable losses. Of course, if you're running your system at 880 Volt, 400Hz 3-phase, your losses are gonna be a lot less. If you consider it a hot argument that "768 is SOOOOO far off from 746" then that's kinda weak. You still haven't said how many moles HOH you get per W/h. Should be easy. It's just 22 liters/mole (cue the guy who goes "WRONG: 24.055 l/m PWNED HA HAHA!!!")

[EletrikRide]

Yes I have. I told you and the entire world what the efficiency of the cell is, and have posted it in every corner of my website and even demonstrated it here in the video series. Not my fault if you are not paying attention.

I never said the argument was hot - but what is hot is the fact that you should not come onto my comments page talking crap while making math errors. You come here, you better come correct or go home.

[sm0ky40]

See you met ArrowHead83 (mr plane on a treadmill)lol

Hydrogen does take energy to produce. The benefit is burning the gas more completely which raises the efficiency of a vehicle that on average is 22 percent. I use hho to boost the efficiency up to 43 percent, so it does save me money.

[kitakat11]

Why do you think they say it does not work??

Are the Mythbusters owned by a large corporation with Oil interests?? I don't understand why people can't believe this works...the technology and knowledge that the gas from electrolysed water can be used as fuel has been around since 1898!!

[EletrikRide]

I booted that guy and deleted his negative comments since he had nothing real to contribute. It's one think to disagree if you have something to bring to the table, you know?

[narivasant]

It is called "hydrogen enhanced combustion".

Do a google search.

Universities, corporations and government agencies have research studies that prove it works.

[ArrowHead83]

Yeah, it's a fuel, but it isn't being produced fast enough to do jack shit with.

[EletrikRide]

Hey dumbass - how do you explain the dozens and dozens of people who are getting 20% increase in fuel mileage? Huh? That includes ME. What? Calling me a liar????

[ArrowHead83]

WHAT dozens and dozen of people who are getting 20% increase in fuel mileage???

I haven't seen any evidence, or even any explanation of how they're measuring it. Just bare assertions.

You're either liars or mistaken.

[EletrikRide]

I just posted a new video for punks like you who can't or won't listen.

Beeeeeyach!

[echoparkduck]

Arrowhead, where have you been looking for evidence and explanations? You obviously haven't done your homework.

My neighbor has an old Ford pickup he put a booster into and his milage went up almost 60%.

His video is "Hydrogen Test Drive HHO Cell #1 Gas Saver "

I'm building something similar called a Smack's Booster to put into my Dodge. People like you need to keep watching TV and leave the thinking for real people who do things.

[EletrikRide]

This video IS the Smack in action.

[jylp4u]

see the search box up there? type "hho" and click search.. watch a few videos and you will learn how it works, how to make one for yourself and everything

[sm0ky40]

I get better then 20% mr plane on a treadmill

[jylp4u]

no..people are getting 20% better and up, i've seen over 50%..people can't understand how powerful hydrogen is and they think it's too good to be true..your always gonna have a dumb person like him, don't let people like him get you off..keep up the good work.

[echoparkduck]

I see you have a plane on your site and belive you can fly. Look up the video "Boeing's Fuel Cell Powered Airplane" and eat your heart out. Mythbusters are clowns to mislead fools.

[jylp4u]

hydrogen is more powerful than gas therefore you wouldnt need that much hydrogen..

[txghia58]

like the new name for the video

[1alien2]

Mythbusters are idiots Eletrik, lol.

[usaslav60]

Yo Eletrik, proff enought, watched vids 1 through 5 you, would have made a great physics thecher. Keep up the the great work.

Robert

[1alien2]

Yes thanks for the videos, very nicely done. Check out my new video of my Trans Am with a 3 inch Smack.

Area 51

[EletrikRide]

No problem!

[chasson321]

Hey Eletrik thanks for the videos. I really appreciate the info that you share.

Tim