Eternal gratitude to Saint Patricks battalion that fought against an imperialist-land hungry army. For those stupid gringos, please read a little bit more!! It is a justification to attack and invade another country because the lack of population? Mexico owned Arizon, California, Texas, Nuevo Mexico, Utah and Nevada after the independence war! Viva MEXICO!!! VIVA IRLANDA!!!
Such a beautiful and deep song. We (Hispanics) appreciate when people notice when their country is doing something wrong and unconstitutional. We appreciate all of those Irish, German, Scottish, Swiss, (etc) men who helped on the Mexican side during times of great despair.
That's the reason there are many red headed people in Nuevo Leon, Mexico basically they are now the grand grand grand sons of those heroes that will never be forgotten..
Honor y gloria a los heroes Irlandeses que dieron su vida por mi y mi gente, mis respetos a Inglaterra y sus nobles ciudadanos. Saludos desde México con mucho amor.
How beautiful can mankind be......Ireland and Mexico know what its like to have a an imperialist super power as a neighbor. One thing is clear, you will never see a Mexican or Irishman back down from a fight!! Vivia Irlanda!! Viva Mexico!! Viva Juan Riley!!
Irish and Mexicans knew they were going to lose the War. The U.S. Flying artillery did great damage to the Mexican army and still our beloved Mexican and Irish heroes continue to fight in front of those U.S. Artillery. Let's honor the Irish and Mexicans who fought bravely in the battlefield.
@arturomaltos It is hard to say if what John wrote was what he saw or what he heard. Seeing as how he was recruited to join the Mexican Army I think he was told by the person who recruited him about what he wrote in his memories.
@agricola The reason they decided to desert the American Army and fight for the Mexicans had nothing to do with material gain. It had everything to do with the fact that they were Catholic and the leaders of the Catholic Church in Mexico told them to fight for Mexico.
I know we like to romanticize historical facts, but it would seem to me that the promise of land and higher wages were the primary incentives for the Irish deserters. I understand why Mexico honors these warriors, but I fail to see how my fellow Irishmen can see them as martyrs.
@blunt1984 The reason for the Meican American War was that the USA wanted Canada and was willing to fight England for it. England wanted to keep Canada, but they were not willing to go to war with the USA to keep it. The English knew that the Texas US border was in dispute and if war was to break out between the USA and Mexico the USA would forget about taking Canada for several years.
@blunt1984 You have no concept of truth or freedom if you think the USA was invading Mexico to "steal" land. The reason for this is that the land that Mexico called theirs belonged to the Utes, Navajo, Apache, and other tribes who the Mexicans bought as slaves to be worked to death unless they converted to Catholicsm.
People are people regardless of their race and good and bad can be found in all races.
@kraigthorne So the USA invaded Mexico to liberate the American Indian tribes in northern Mexico?-LMAO
You are dreaming. The goal of President James K. Polk was American territorial expansion to the Pacific coast. Ever heard of the term "Manifest Destiny"?
@blunt1984 I think you need to learn how to read.
There is no doubt that the USA not only wanted what is now the lower 48, in the 1840's the USA wanted ALL of North America. This being said, Mexico had NO real clame on Utah, Nevada, or Arizona, because only Native Americans lived in those states at the time (in any real number).
@kraigthorne If Mexico had "NO real claim" on these areas, why did the U.S. government PAY Mexico $18,250,000 ($461,725,000 today) — and agree to assume $3.25-million ($82,225,000 today) in debts that the Mexican government owed to U.S. citizens after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo?
If Mexico had no real claim, why didn't the U.S. just say, "Well, the land was never yours anyway, so we're not paying you anything for it."?
@blunt1984 That is a good question. In my eyes they had no real clame. I think it had more to do with the fact the Americans felt guilty about the war and the money was a way of paying pentance.
I think the best way to understand the people at the time is to watch John Adams, because the people in the early 1800's thought more like the people of the 1840's than the way Americans think today.
@kraigthorne LoL-I actually own a copy of HBO's John Adams miniseries on DVD. It does shed a lot of light on early years of the United States. It's also probably the best acting job in Paul Giamatti's career so far.
@1969luap Obviously,as an American you find it difficult to accept the injustices committed by this country. To claim that they switched sides for material gain is a slap in the face of Irish spirit and dignity. The Irish were discriminated against, humilliated and basically conscripted right off the boat from Ireland by the US Army. Whether you choose to believe it or not does not change historical facts. A martyr is someone who is willing to die for a principle or a belief - marty'rs they are!
@uzarate the irish are as perfidious as any other race, they stole and raped and murdered when it suited them. to insinuate that somehow the irish have more of a sense of honor than anyone else is loudicris.
@agricola I don't see anywhere in my comments where I state that the "Irish have more of a sense of honor than anyone else". You obviously have something against the Irish which has nothing whatsoever to do with the St. Patrick's batallion so just go vent that somewhere else. Let those of us who appreciate their valor in an unjust and imperialist war continue to honor them. By the way, the correct spelling is ludicrous.
@uzarate Not a SINGLE Irish man was conscripted in the Mexican American War (the Civil War they were conscripted and if they had not been conscripted in the Civil War Abraham Lincoln would have not been reelected). In the Mexican American War there were more Americans who wanted to join the Army than the Army had room for.
@kraigthorne You have an amazing ability to make up "facts" to support your arguments. You continue to believe in your myths and the rest of us will continue to honor the San Patricios.
@uzarate Seeing as how you do not dispute a single fact of mine with a fact of your own I have no reason to take what you say with anything but laughter.
I do find it quite sick that you honor the very people who caused such pain and suffering to millions of Irish because of their example.
@1969luap The United States army treating the Irish Catholics very poorly and for the fact that the Mexicans were mostly Catholics also played a role in these Irishmen deserting the United States army
@1969luap They were not the primary incentives. The harsh discrimination they suffered in their own army because they were Catholics was one of the primary reasons. That the US was invading a predominately Catholic nation and committing atrocities, particularly the burning of churches, raping of the nuns, and murder of priests was another reason. They knew it was an illegal war for the sole purpose of expanding territory and slavery. Wages and land were not as big of reasons as you think.
@1969luap My great grand father's grand father was an Irishman who fought for Mexico. It's a family story as to why he did it. I've spoken to my grandma for hours about it. The United States hated Irish Catholics. It's why the Irish respect Mexicans. The Irish were the Mexicans of their day. Back then THEY were the ones who were supposedly stealing American jobs, like Mexicans today.
Just think if it were not for the treasonus act of the "Batallón de San Patricio" the USA would have been a welcoming haven for the Irish in the last part of the 1800's as it was in the first part of the 1800's. Remeber Andrew Jackson (the guy on the 20) was pure Irish.
@kraigthorne: The main grudge`s against the Irish in the mid to late 1800s was that they were Catholics, they arrived in mass numbers, and a little bit of WASP racism against them as an inferior race..
Both Andrew Jackson`s parents were from Ireland, yes, but they were Ulster Presbyterians, of Scottish ancestry
@risteardsean I would say you have a point except for the fact that the Irish spoke english (for the more part) and not speaking english was the main thing Americans held against imigrants. Also the Catholics from France, Poland, and Italy were not treated half as bad as the Irish were.
I am not saying that what the "Batallón de San Patricio" did in any way at all justifies how the Irish were treated, because it does NOT!
@kraigthorne Oh yeah, typical American revisionism of history to deny injustice even when it's clearly irrefutable. The generally negative perception of the Irish never varied until the early part of the 20th century and only slowly. The San Patricios turned coats precisely because of the ill treatment they received before they even got off the boat. If they had felt welcomed why would they have been willing to die for a country they knew nothing about after traveling so far to reach the US??
@uzarate The main reason they turned was the fact that they were ALL Catholic and they were talked into fighting for Mexico by leaders of the Catholic Church in Mexico. When a person has the choice of fighting for a country they are a new member of or fighting for their God. It is understandable what they did. In the light of history it was the WRONG thing to do.
@kraigthorne Hmmmmm...Utah state and a subscriber to Rush Limbaugh...that explains it! Right wing, conservative and thus ULTRA patriotic, thus unable to even consider the possibility that your country's history is full of injustices and treachery right? Well sorry, do some real historical research and you'll discover that this country consistently violated its ideals in the name of Manifest Destiny and continues to do so today to protect its "vital interests."
@uzarate WOW! It is not a good thing to make snap judgements about people. I have learnd that just because a person does not agree with you it does not mean they are stupid.
There is not a single country in the world that has not done bad things, but there is no country in the history of the world that has done more good than the USA.
@CHIVASBOY123 Is a person more racist if they are afraid of a person of a different race or if they think they are smarter than a person of a different race and believe that without their help the other race can never make it?
@kraigthorne Shut the fuck up.. you dont know what are you talking about... you dont even know what i think... .. dont try to defend a country who is more racist than the NAZIS....
i just cant wait to the day when North America rot in hell...
Saul Canelo a pro boxer 100% irsh born in mexico.. An up comming contender in boxing..keep an eye out for him hes gonna be a champion in the future.. no dout!
@chekmobb Cierto el Canelo Alvarez es Irlandes nacido en Mexico?? Is he 100 % irish?? How do you know that?? Canelo is going to fight in some minutes!!! El va a vencer a pacquiao!!!!
Ive seen two High class Americans get beat to a bloody pulp by two Irish guys in Boston, because the two Americans were talking badly about Mexican people, I hadnt a clue why it was happening, until one of the guys told me about the San Patricios! - it was pretty cool
>Great story ! Traitors ? No way ! Cowards? No way ! They fought like brave soldiers. I'm Flemish(belgium) with Mexican roots( grandfather) and I'd alway's admired Irelands struggle for independence and freedom. Mexico-Ireland-Flanders...connected ! In memory of the San Patricio Battaillion ! VIVA MEXICO!
viva mexico cabrones......ahora a inundar de mexicanos los e.u....ese es el terror de los e.u. cada dia somos mas y mas......comunidades enteras de mexicanos
World Cup qualifiers, Thierry Henri prevented Ireland from entering due to a hand a ball that allowed France to win. Honestly, we'd have been anhilated in our first game of the World Cup, but at least we'd have made it in. Its a pride thing.
Other then that we get on well with the French, they used to help us during our revolutions. None of them worked liked, but its the thought that counts.
@T3kozRockz :Look up1798 .Killala bay Co Mayo Ireland.Gen. Humbert.Plus the French Cavaly in 1690 at the battle of the Boyne.The Irish happen to like the French a lot.Except that cheating bastard Thierry Herni!:)
To say Ireland is great would be an understatement. Ireland is wonderful in every aspect. I love Ireland and the Irish. I have been there many times and I must say I feel at home every single time I'm there. Irish pubs are still the best. We Mexicans are very thankful to the Irish for sticking with us during those times of hardship and struggles...For that, we kicked the French's ass out of the World Cup in S.A.!
@papadoc711 Hi,those Irish are not well known by all mexicans but for the ones that know their battle for Mexico Riley and his Irish boys are considered HEROES that fought for a cause that wasn´t their war but they followed their concience and for me that is HONOR and COURAGE, they´re honored every year here in Mexico,we have a big debt to those heroes, since then any Irish is welcome in Mexico and I feel a strong magnetism with your people,God bless you Irish.
@xhonavsky@xhonavsky yea i only new about it myself when my father told me the story,I couldn't belive the bravery of the irish that day they stood by the people who where just defending their country from tyrants,Viva Mexico Chara
I'm Venezuelan. Lived in Ireland and I totally admire their spirit and their brave nature. Still today they will fight for any cause or nation just to deliever their freedom. I love Ireland and Irish people! I wish they will keep spreading all over the world to give the best of them to other cultures! Please Irish people come to Venezuela and save us from CHAVEZ!!!
A true hero is willing to fight the faults of his nation.
Here's to my ancestor who fought in the San Patricios. Erin Go Bragh, Viva Mexico. May our nations remain Sisters in Freedom, and may both nations soon be free of their troubles.
@yeonnie2go thnaks brooo long live to Ireland and long live to Mexico¡¡¡¡¡ we are like brothers¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ Ireland and Mexico will live for ever¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
God bless the Irishmen who fought for the catholic Mexico. Moreover, there were also germans, frenchmen, poles and swisses who also fought on the Mexican side.
The truth behind all this, is that the USA was (and it is still) ruled by freemasons and jews. They wanted to avoid to have a strong catholic empire as neighbor, therefore they attacked Mexico, so that the USA will have in the future the free path to declare war to any country which opposes jewish domination THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH
Interesting in that John Riley of the song was acquitted of treason because he deserted before the war started. Also despite his commitment to Mexico he married a German woman and settled in the US. He lived in Northern Texas until his death in 1879, he was however buried in Mexico.
@battleax86 God doesn't You Tube come back to haunt you! It was some time ago but at least you are not abusive. It may have been Wikipepia as the do update but it was certainly from the internet.
According to that source Riley escaped treason charges because he deserted before the war, stayed in Texas and married a German woman, died many years after the war and was buried in Mexico at either his or the Mexicans request.
@freebeerfordworkers He wasn't charged with treason because he wasn't a US citizen. He was, however, convicted of desertion and escaped the death penalty on that charge because, as you said, it had technically occurred in peacetime. Haven't been able to find anything on the claim he lived in North Texas (where I'm from, ironically) married to a German woman, but it would be unlikely, as it's standard American policy to deport foreigners convicted of crimes...especially one of Riley's magnitude.
@battleax86 Riley is a common Irish name so its possible there are two different men. Eminent historians have reached directly opposite conclusions when both missed an obscure document. OT but I know US immigration law is tight because this year a British guy who have lived and worked in Texas(?) for 10 years was stopped for a minor traffic violation. A computer showed his visa was 3 months out of date so he was jailed and put on the first flight back to Britain and out of the US for keeps.
@freebeerfordworkers Wow...it amazes me how the immigration service can bring the hammer down on someone from an allied country a little behind on his paperwork, but won't round up all the illegal Mexicans over here. I guess it might have been easier, since his name was already in the system.
As for Riley, his Mexican army records list him as "Juan Reley," which matches the Irishman who died in Veracruz in 1850. I suppose it could've been someone else...hell of a coincidence if it is, though.
@battleax86 . I would not argue but I doubt US controls in 1840's were that good. BTW in the UK we are much more liberal. 8 Muslims picked up by the US in Afghanistan claim they were roughed up in Guantanamo Bay. None are or have ever been UK citizens but they had the good fortune to live here on welfare for a few months. With the help of British lawyers they have sued the government for failing to protect their rights & beenoffered £1 million (1.5$) each to STFU. Whom the gods wish to destroy?
@freebeerfordworkers That's crazy. I've heard getting benefits in Britain is so easy that even Americans have gone to Britain requesting asylum so they can leech off the government. If I were Cameron, I would've told them all to get stuffed and go back to Afghanistan or wherever they were from.
Riley was branded in the face with a "D" for deserter. Even in the 1840s, it would've been hard for him to hide, especially since most of America was made of rural towns where everyone knew everyone.
I did read that most Irish soldiers stayed loyal to the US. When the Mexicans lost these Irish (also Catholics) were the most insistent that those who changed sides should be punished. Actual figures anyone?
On examination what passes for "history" - anyone's history - is 90% BS but our Irish "history" is the best. It registers 95%+ on the BS scale.
90.000 Deserters during the Amer-Mexican so called war(Land Grab)When stepping of the boat in the US the Irish were told by pipe smoking assholes"Join the army and you will be a US citizen in 5 yrs,then the Nativists and Know Nothings made it 25 yrs!Think anyone would fight on them terms for those gutless chinless wonders?FO!
Wikipedias summary does not ignore the US aggression or the crimes committed by US volunteers. So their figure of 9200 US desertions should by reasonably accurate putting your 92k well into the 95%+ BS scale.
As to your FO, I understand this is the only possible response.
John Riley fought the US, had 50 of his men hanged by the US and escaped on legal grounds. He preferred to spend the rest of his life in the US rather than the country he fought for.
It's only now we can look objectively as what passed as our own history.. most young Irish who sought service in Armies might be seen as 'ecomonic conscripts'... used in a racist way by those major powers......a Bayonet thats a weapon with a working man at either end........
I am glad to know that there may be people who are capable of performing acts of such heroism and courage to defend a just cause and such noble ideals.
We are forced to sell and lose more than half of our territory with a valuable weapon in our heads at the price imposed by the invader.
As a Mexican I am pleased to give my sincere thanks and admiration to the courageous people of Ireland.
@octormetatron There was not one thing that was noble about what the "Batallón de San Patricio" did. Because of their treason millions if Irish were treated as trators in the USA for more than 60 years.
@kraigthorne: I think it was a noble act.. The Mexican-American war was a land grab against a weaker enemy.. Sadly many Irish today wouldnt do it.. Far too many are too concerned with their own selfish wants to do something that is right.. George Washington served in the British army, he was landed gentry, he benefited more than most from the British system at the the time, yet he lead a rebellion against Britain, was he a traitor?
@kraigthorne: I think it was a noble act.. The Mexican-American war was a land grab against a weaker enemy.. Sadly many Irish today wouldnt do it.. Far too many are too concerned with their own selfish wants to do something that is right.. George Washington served in the British army, he was landed gentry, he benefited more than most from the British system at the the time, yet he lead a rebellion against Britain, was he a traitor?
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I could care less what Ulysses S. Grant had to say. He was one of the worst presidents in US history. The fact is the Mexicans attacked American troops in American territory. They brought the war on themselves.
"The fact is the Mexicans attacked American troops in American territory. They brought the war on themselves. "
Really? Well, someone needs to stop the brainwash from their country's history books and learn the REAL facts. The americans were crossing the Rio Grande so the mexicans fired up. Even if they WEREN'T crossing the Grande, they were still in Mexican territorry, since the actual border was the Nueces River, not the Grande.
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LOL Are those the lies the Mexicans teach in their history books? Captain Thornton's patrol was NOT across the Rio Grande and the Rio Grande was the border under the 1836 Treaty of Velasco, regardless of Mexico's later claims. The Mexicans didn't really have a right to talk about borders either, as they frequently raided Texas (even briefly occupying San Antonio in 1842) before Texas joined the US. You're the one who needs to learn real facts, not Mexican nationalist lies.
@battleax86 the treaty of velasco was not accepted by the goverment or recongnize becuse it was sign by a dictator so they claimed nueces river as the border and ur captian was rumored that he did crossed the border to get fired since USA wanted so much the territorie of mexico they wanted to provoke it and they used it as an excuse to invade the weak nation..... so i guess who has the last laugh wins lol
@456024545 It doesn't matter who the treaty was signed by. He was the legal head of state of Mexico at the time, so the treaty was valid. Not only that, but Mexico brought Santa Anna back to lead the Mexican army during the war, so it's not like they really hated him all that much...
Not really. People just wanted him in power, he stayed a few days/weeks and then appointed another guy (mostly Valentín Gómez Faríaz) while he rested in his farm.
@sidwerd1hater Only for a brief period in 1833, before Santa Anna forced him to flee to the US. Like him or not, Santa Anna was the legal head of state of Mexico when the Treaty of Velasco was signed, so the treaty was valid. It's not our fault the Mexicans allowed such a thoroughly incompetent man to lead their army.
Yes, I already know the saying and it's totally irrelevant right now. Nothing I said is false and not even the Mexicans (aside from idiots like sidwerd1hater) dispute anything I've said.
I love the United States because I'm American but as a result of my Mexican descent, I couldn't help but tear after hearing this song...Long live John Riley! In Chicago, I live in a tough nieghborhood, and fear nothing as long as my chum Danny D'wire is long side me on 38th street...Thank you Irland
Google:"Irelands Holocaust"To say the Irish died from lack of food is like saying the Jews died from lack of oxygen.Mucho Gracias for the post Mo Chara.Viva Mexico y Erin Go Bragh.All the best from your friends in Belfast.
God bless the Irishmen who fought for the catholic Mexico. Moreover, there were also germans, frenchmen, poles and swiss who also fought on the Mexican side.
The truth behind all this, is that the USA was (and it is still) ruled by freemasons and jews. They wanted to avoid to have a strong catholic empire as neighbor, therefore they attacked Mexico, so that the USA will have in the future the free path to declare war to any country which opposes jewish domination THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH
in the anthem of my country have a phrase wich says: "serve our feats as a model to the whole earth". Irish people are brave people, real freedom fighters. What you do and what you did serve as a model to the whole earth.
No podrimos ganarlas armas de Boston. Nos caimos despues cada arma despidido. La mayoria de nosotros moriemos, alli arriba del montana. En el servicio del Estado de Mexico. Muy lejos del nuestra pais ocupado. Estabamos hroes y victimas del destino. De Dublin City (Capitol De Irlanda) a San Diego, vimos gente sin el liberdad. Entonces nos formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. No formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico.
Estamos los peliadores de liberdad con pelo rojo. Al lado de los morrenos y morrenas. Juntos peliamos contra de oprecion. Y CLARO que haceramos una vez mas! De Dublin City (Capitol De Irlanda) a San Diego, vimos gente sin el liberdad. Entonces nos formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. No formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. Peliamos con ellos en 5 batellas grandes. Churibusco fue la ultima.
Solomente 50 anos des pues Wolftone, 5000 miles de alli. Los gringos dijeron que nosotros eran raros, y puden decir que los quieron. De Dublin City (Capitol De Irlanda) a San Diego, vimos gente sin el liberdad. Entonces nos formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. Nos Peliamos en Mantalores?, a donde los voluntarios de E
EUU estaban violando las hermanas (de Dios). En Monterrey y Sierra Gordo, peliamos como los hijos de Irlanda.
Yo y 200 Irlandes contesatamos la pregunta de, "Que es correcto?"
De Dublin City (Capitol De Irlanda) a San Diego, vimos gente sin el liberdad. Entonces nos formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. No formadamos el batallon de San. Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. Marchemos abajo del banderra de San Patricio, que llevo las palabras, "Erin Go Braugh," (Viva Irlanda en Irlandes). Tambien llevo la arpa y el trebol, y "Liberdad Para El Republica."
Me Nombre es John Riley. Voy a tener tu atencion por solo un momentito. Deje me casaita en Irlanda. Mis opciones fue morirme, starvacion, o exiliado. Cuando llege a EEUU. Me forzaron a ir a entrar
El militar y peliar por Texas en la guerra contra de Mexico. Y estaba alli en los pueblitos y la tierra que lo vi que me equivoce. Estaba parte de un militar de conquistadores con morales de solo matar. Y alli con los pobres Catolicos se murieron, ninos gritandos, la huelle del casas en fuegos.
Mis respetos y Honores para estos bravos y valientes soldados irlandeses que dierón su vida y vertierón su sangre en mi amada y querida tierra, peleando en contra de un invasor tirano y abusivo, los hombres mueren, pero su honor, valor y recuerdo son INMORTALES. Honor y Gloria por siempre. Viva México e Irlanda.
I'm not sure. But I hope someone else answers your question because I'd like to get a copy of it myself.
I couldn't even find a DVD copy of the most recent 1999 movie about them, "One Man's Hero", starring Tom Berenger as Sergeant / Lieutenant / Captain John Riley!
Hey, thanks so much. I must've been looking in the wrong places before, because I just bought a used copy of "One Man's Hero" at an entertainment store in my town yesterday.
Shift work is making me bloody daft. It was worth commenting on again,blunt. You might get some more repeat comments, live with it blunt me boy, cause it's all good. My wife is to blame. Ah well, her being English, can't blame them for everything. lol.
I did notice a Roger Hogan in there, my fathers surname he gave to me. He is my hero, and fighting for his life right now in East Orange. He told me ," No regrets, I am proud of my people."
Martin Miles, Abraham Fitzpatrick, John Murphy, Lewis Preifer, John Benedick, John Rose, Lachlar McLanchlen, Patrick Casey, John Brooke, Roger Duhan, James Speers, Martin Lydon, Dennis Conahan, Auguste Morartaft, James McDowell, Gibson McDowell, Hugh McClelland, John McDonald, John Cavanaugh, Thomas Casidy, John Daly, James Kelly, John Littie, Henry Logenhame, Henry Venator, Francis Rhode, John Klager, Alfred K. Fogal, George Jackson, William OConnor, Richard Hanly, John Appleby, George Dalwig.
Capitán John OReilly, Thomas Riley, James Mills, Lawrence McKay, Francis OConnor, Peter Neil, Kerr Delaney, Patrick Antison, Harrison Kenny, Roger Hogan,John Sheehan, John A. Myers, Richard Parker, Lemuel Wheaton, Samuel H Thomas, David McElroy, Parian Fritz, John Bowers, M. T. Frantius, Henry Mewer, Henry Octker, Henry Whistler, Wil/iam H. Keeck, Edward McHerron , Andrew Nolan, Patrick Dalton, John Cuttle, John Price, Wil/iam Oathouse, Wlliam A. Wallace, Elizier S. Lusk, Herman Schmidt
because of white supremacy the government doesnt want to put this in the textbooks just like how they say no one knows how all the aztecs and mayans disappeared. its so obvious why they disapeared the spaniards bruned their books and raped and burned them they dont say that..
I think more of the reason is because the US government doesn't want Americans to realize that its foreign policy has been imperialistic in both the past and present; and that there were Americans who were willing to fight and die to stand against it.
The government doesn't want this story known because they don't want it to inspire Americans to (for example) demand that they shut down all US military bases in foreign countries, and bring all of our troops home.
The Aztecs and Maya did not disappear. I have had two ex gf's who are Aztec and Maya. The empire's were crushed by a combination of things, but the people are still very much alive.
Eternal gratitude to Saint Patricks battalion that fought against an imperialist-land hungry army. For those stupid gringos, please read a little bit more!! It is a justification to attack and invade another country because the lack of population? Mexico owned Arizon, California, Texas, Nuevo Mexico, Utah and Nevada after the independence war! Viva MEXICO!!! VIVA IRLANDA!!!
riviello1 2 weeks ago
Such a beautiful and deep song. We (Hispanics) appreciate when people notice when their country is doing something wrong and unconstitutional. We appreciate all of those Irish, German, Scottish, Swiss, (etc) men who helped on the Mexican side during times of great despair.
Thank you all! :)
bgspanky2 2 weeks ago 3
as all ways
MichaelMcDaid1957 1 month ago
irish man do not forget your fite for freedom
MichaelMcDaid1957 1 month ago 2
I believe the Irish did the right thing opposing the unjust actions of the Americans.
rhythmofthesoul 1 month ago 3
Peter.F.Stevens."The Rogues March" Read it and weep.
MrBillyhunchback 1 month ago
That's the reason there are many red headed people in Nuevo Leon, Mexico basically they are now the grand grand grand sons of those heroes that will never be forgotten..
gerry1976 1 month ago
Honor y gloria a los heroes Irlandeses que dieron su vida por mi y mi gente, mis respetos a Inglaterra y sus nobles ciudadanos. Saludos desde México con mucho amor.
habibiserena 4 months ago
GRACIASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
ON GUSTO PELEARE A LADO DE U UN IRLANDES....DIOS BENDIGA A LOS IRLANDESES
kasmendez12 4 months ago
Erin Go Bragh!
MrBillyhunchback 4 months ago
Thanks to Irish ppl.
Here in Mexico we love you guys :)!
Viva Ireland
Viva Mexico
Forever Brothers.
derbyson 5 months ago 8
How beautiful can mankind be......Ireland and Mexico know what its like to have a an imperialist super power as a neighbor. One thing is clear, you will never see a Mexican or Irishman back down from a fight!! Vivia Irlanda!! Viva Mexico!! Viva Juan Riley!!
cristopherkloeess 7 months ago 18
ERIN GO BRAGH !
¡ VIVA MÉXICO !
There will always be a close fraternal tie between us both...
portinaribe 8 months ago 4
Irish and Mexicans knew they were going to lose the War. The U.S. Flying artillery did great damage to the Mexican army and still our beloved Mexican and Irish heroes continue to fight in front of those U.S. Artillery. Let's honor the Irish and Mexicans who fought bravely in the battlefield.
jpescool 8 months ago 7
ERIN GO BRAGH
123crox 9 months ago 2
some of us share the blood, all of us share the passion¡¡¡...
Piper Carlos Díaz, Saint Patrick's Batallion Pipes & Drums México.
MrCarlosdiazdiaz 10 months ago 3
VIVA MÉXICO!
VIVA IRLANDA!
GRACIAS POR SU SACRIFICIO!!
GOD BLESS IRELAND
GOD BLESS MEXICO
100mclaren 10 months ago 5
@arturomaltos It is hard to say if what John wrote was what he saw or what he heard. Seeing as how he was recruited to join the Mexican Army I think he was told by the person who recruited him about what he wrote in his memories.
kraigthorne 10 months ago
everyone is in the end, motivated by material gain. no one has any truly unselfish motives.
agricola 10 months ago
@agricola The reason they decided to desert the American Army and fight for the Mexicans had nothing to do with material gain. It had everything to do with the fact that they were Catholic and the leaders of the Catholic Church in Mexico told them to fight for Mexico.
kraigthorne 10 months ago
Wow! Had no idea. Bitter sweet story. Loved it. Thank you.
keenondean 10 months ago
I know we like to romanticize historical facts, but it would seem to me that the promise of land and higher wages were the primary incentives for the Irish deserters. I understand why Mexico honors these warriors, but I fail to see how my fellow Irishmen can see them as martyrs.
1969luap 11 months ago
@1969luap They were martyrs for freedom. The USA was invading Mexico to steal its land. Similar to England invading Ireland to steal its land.
blunt1984 10 months ago 34
@blunt1984 The reason for the Meican American War was that the USA wanted Canada and was willing to fight England for it. England wanted to keep Canada, but they were not willing to go to war with the USA to keep it. The English knew that the Texas US border was in dispute and if war was to break out between the USA and Mexico the USA would forget about taking Canada for several years.
kraigthorne 10 months ago
@blunt1984 You have no concept of truth or freedom if you think the USA was invading Mexico to "steal" land. The reason for this is that the land that Mexico called theirs belonged to the Utes, Navajo, Apache, and other tribes who the Mexicans bought as slaves to be worked to death unless they converted to Catholicsm.
People are people regardless of their race and good and bad can be found in all races.
kraigthorne 10 months ago
@kraigthorne So the USA invaded Mexico to liberate the American Indian tribes in northern Mexico?-LMAO
You are dreaming. The goal of President James K. Polk was American territorial expansion to the Pacific coast. Ever heard of the term "Manifest Destiny"?
blunt1984 7 months ago
@blunt1984 I think you need to learn how to read.
There is no doubt that the USA not only wanted what is now the lower 48, in the 1840's the USA wanted ALL of North America. This being said, Mexico had NO real clame on Utah, Nevada, or Arizona, because only Native Americans lived in those states at the time (in any real number).
kraigthorne 7 months ago
@kraigthorne If Mexico had "NO real claim" on these areas, why did the U.S. government PAY Mexico $18,250,000 ($461,725,000 today) — and agree to assume $3.25-million ($82,225,000 today) in debts that the Mexican government owed to U.S. citizens after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo?
If Mexico had no real claim, why didn't the U.S. just say, "Well, the land was never yours anyway, so we're not paying you anything for it."?
blunt1984 7 months ago
@blunt1984 That is a good question. In my eyes they had no real clame. I think it had more to do with the fact the Americans felt guilty about the war and the money was a way of paying pentance.
I think the best way to understand the people at the time is to watch John Adams, because the people in the early 1800's thought more like the people of the 1840's than the way Americans think today.
kraigthorne 7 months ago
@kraigthorne LoL-I actually own a copy of HBO's John Adams miniseries on DVD. It does shed a lot of light on early years of the United States. It's also probably the best acting job in Paul Giamatti's career so far.
blunt1984 7 months ago
@blunt1984 similar to everyone stealing the Indians land.
bubridge 5 months ago
@bubridge Exactly. I actually support the goals of the AIM (American Indian Movement) as well.
blunt1984 5 months ago
@1969luap Obviously,as an American you find it difficult to accept the injustices committed by this country. To claim that they switched sides for material gain is a slap in the face of Irish spirit and dignity. The Irish were discriminated against, humilliated and basically conscripted right off the boat from Ireland by the US Army. Whether you choose to believe it or not does not change historical facts. A martyr is someone who is willing to die for a principle or a belief - marty'rs they are!
uzarate 10 months ago 2
@uzarate traitors is a better word for it than martyrs.
agricola 10 months ago
@uzarate the irish are as perfidious as any other race, they stole and raped and murdered when it suited them. to insinuate that somehow the irish have more of a sense of honor than anyone else is loudicris.
agricola 10 months ago
@agricola I don't see anywhere in my comments where I state that the "Irish have more of a sense of honor than anyone else". You obviously have something against the Irish which has nothing whatsoever to do with the St. Patrick's batallion so just go vent that somewhere else. Let those of us who appreciate their valor in an unjust and imperialist war continue to honor them. By the way, the correct spelling is ludicrous.
uzarate 10 months ago
@uzarate Not a SINGLE Irish man was conscripted in the Mexican American War (the Civil War they were conscripted and if they had not been conscripted in the Civil War Abraham Lincoln would have not been reelected). In the Mexican American War there were more Americans who wanted to join the Army than the Army had room for.
kraigthorne 10 months ago
@kraigthorne You have an amazing ability to make up "facts" to support your arguments. You continue to believe in your myths and the rest of us will continue to honor the San Patricios.
uzarate 10 months ago
@uzarate Seeing as how you do not dispute a single fact of mine with a fact of your own I have no reason to take what you say with anything but laughter.
I do find it quite sick that you honor the very people who caused such pain and suffering to millions of Irish because of their example.
kraigthorne 10 months ago
@1969luap Would that then be true for the American government that went to war with Mexico for land?
1967jon 9 months ago
@1969luap The United States army treating the Irish Catholics very poorly and for the fact that the Mexicans were mostly Catholics also played a role in these Irishmen deserting the United States army
ChaseTerrier 8 months ago
@1969luap They were not the primary incentives. The harsh discrimination they suffered in their own army because they were Catholics was one of the primary reasons. That the US was invading a predominately Catholic nation and committing atrocities, particularly the burning of churches, raping of the nuns, and murder of priests was another reason. They knew it was an illegal war for the sole purpose of expanding territory and slavery. Wages and land were not as big of reasons as you think.
GeneralKenobiSIYE 8 months ago
@1969luap My great grand father's grand father was an Irishman who fought for Mexico. It's a family story as to why he did it. I've spoken to my grandma for hours about it. The United States hated Irish Catholics. It's why the Irish respect Mexicans. The Irish were the Mexicans of their day. Back then THEY were the ones who were supposedly stealing American jobs, like Mexicans today.
GeneralKenobiSIYE 8 months ago
I always thought my Irish/ Mexican-ness was a strange mix. I wonder if this involvement has any relation to my family's origins.
Sami7685 11 months ago 2
John Riley dijo ¨yo peleo del lado justo , y aunque la batalla este perdida¨
lordtrixtam 1 year ago
Just think if it were not for the treasonus act of the "Batallón de San Patricio" the USA would have been a welcoming haven for the Irish in the last part of the 1800's as it was in the first part of the 1800's. Remeber Andrew Jackson (the guy on the 20) was pure Irish.
kraigthorne 1 year ago
@kraigthorne: The main grudge`s against the Irish in the mid to late 1800s was that they were Catholics, they arrived in mass numbers, and a little bit of WASP racism against them as an inferior race..
Both Andrew Jackson`s parents were from Ireland, yes, but they were Ulster Presbyterians, of Scottish ancestry
risteardsean 1 year ago
@risteardsean I would say you have a point except for the fact that the Irish spoke english (for the more part) and not speaking english was the main thing Americans held against imigrants. Also the Catholics from France, Poland, and Italy were not treated half as bad as the Irish were.
I am not saying that what the "Batallón de San Patricio" did in any way at all justifies how the Irish were treated, because it does NOT!
kraigthorne 1 year ago
@kraigthorne Oh yeah, typical American revisionism of history to deny injustice even when it's clearly irrefutable. The generally negative perception of the Irish never varied until the early part of the 20th century and only slowly. The San Patricios turned coats precisely because of the ill treatment they received before they even got off the boat. If they had felt welcomed why would they have been willing to die for a country they knew nothing about after traveling so far to reach the US??
uzarate 10 months ago
@uzarate The main reason they turned was the fact that they were ALL Catholic and they were talked into fighting for Mexico by leaders of the Catholic Church in Mexico. When a person has the choice of fighting for a country they are a new member of or fighting for their God. It is understandable what they did. In the light of history it was the WRONG thing to do.
kraigthorne 10 months ago
@kraigthorne Hmmmmm...Utah state and a subscriber to Rush Limbaugh...that explains it! Right wing, conservative and thus ULTRA patriotic, thus unable to even consider the possibility that your country's history is full of injustices and treachery right? Well sorry, do some real historical research and you'll discover that this country consistently violated its ideals in the name of Manifest Destiny and continues to do so today to protect its "vital interests."
uzarate 10 months ago
@uzarate WOW! It is not a good thing to make snap judgements about people. I have learnd that just because a person does not agree with you it does not mean they are stupid.
There is not a single country in the world that has not done bad things, but there is no country in the history of the world that has done more good than the USA.
kraigthorne 10 months ago
Fuck those "american's" pinches gringos... are the fewer people who belong to this continent, and are called americans...
VIVA MEXICO Y VIVAN LOS SAN PATRICIOS CABRONES!!
CHIVASBOY123 1 year ago
@CHIVASBOY123 Why are you a racist?
kraigthorne 1 year ago
@kraigthorne If those rednecks are.. why we shouldnt??. pinches gringos me cagan la madre
CHIVASBOY123 1 year ago
@CHIVASBOY123 Is a person more racist if they are afraid of a person of a different race or if they think they are smarter than a person of a different race and believe that without their help the other race can never make it?
kraigthorne 1 year ago
@kraigthorne Shut the fuck up.. you dont know what are you talking about... you dont even know what i think... .. dont try to defend a country who is more racist than the NAZIS....
i just cant wait to the day when North America rot in hell...
CHIVASBOY123 1 year ago
@CHIVASBOY123 Thanks for the good laugh. It has been a long time sense I have laughed so hard at a silly post. Thanks again
kraigthorne 1 year ago
@kraigthorne ure welcome... :) .l.
CHIVASBOY123 1 year ago
there were germans among those hanged by the us army
aag005 1 year ago
Saul Canelo a pro boxer 100% irsh born in mexico.. An up comming contender in boxing..keep an eye out for him hes gonna be a champion in the future.. no dout!
chekmobb 1 year ago
@chekmobb Cierto el Canelo Alvarez es Irlandes nacido en Mexico?? Is he 100 % irish?? How do you know that?? Canelo is going to fight in some minutes!!! El va a vencer a pacquiao!!!!
thexcallibur 1 year ago
What these Irish soldiers did was treason. There are no words to discribe what the US did to the Mexican people and its country.
afromex1 1 year ago
Ive seen two High class Americans get beat to a bloody pulp by two Irish guys in Boston, because the two Americans were talking badly about Mexican people, I hadnt a clue why it was happening, until one of the guys told me about the San Patricios! - it was pretty cool
CharlieBravoEcho88 1 year ago 2
>Great story ! Traitors ? No way ! Cowards? No way ! They fought like brave soldiers. I'm Flemish(belgium) with Mexican roots( grandfather) and I'd alway's admired Irelands struggle for independence and freedom. Mexico-Ireland-Flanders...connected ! In memory of the San Patricio Battaillion ! VIVA MEXICO!
stefalbert 1 year ago 3
que bien tenemos que agradecer a esas persona que peliaron con mexico arriva irlanda
karry100 1 year ago
gracias por el video...thank you Ireland.
mer99mx 1 year ago
irish you are a bunch of BADASSES!!!
ewonvel88 1 year ago
Mexico will allways honor the brave Irish men. Blessing to Ireland.
WarriorAlexander 1 year ago
Evidence of there fighting seeds continue to sprout in Mexico. Look at young up and coming charasmatic and humble boxer " Canelo Alvares "
gduran1x 1 year ago
viva mexico cabrones......ahora a inundar de mexicanos los e.u....ese es el terror de los e.u. cada dia somos mas y mas......comunidades enteras de mexicanos
lebaronnegro1978 1 year ago
One question why do the Irish don't like the French..?
T3kozRockz 1 year ago
@T3kozRockz the irish have good relations with the French,who told you they didn;t like the french
papadoc711 1 year ago
@T3kozRockz
World Cup qualifiers, Thierry Henri prevented Ireland from entering due to a hand a ball that allowed France to win. Honestly, we'd have been anhilated in our first game of the World Cup, but at least we'd have made it in. Its a pride thing.
Other then that we get on well with the French, they used to help us during our revolutions. None of them worked liked, but its the thought that counts.
Todyo1798 1 year ago
@Todyo1798 ohhhh now i get it, yeah i remember that game, so now i get why the Irish tell the Mexicans, thanks for kickin the french out. = )
T3kozRockz 1 year ago
@T3kozRockz :Look up1798 .Killala bay Co Mayo Ireland.Gen. Humbert.Plus the French Cavaly in 1690 at the battle of the Boyne.The Irish happen to like the French a lot.Except that cheating bastard Thierry Herni!:)
billyhunchback 1 year ago
To say Ireland is great would be an understatement. Ireland is wonderful in every aspect. I love Ireland and the Irish. I have been there many times and I must say I feel at home every single time I'm there. Irish pubs are still the best. We Mexicans are very thankful to the Irish for sticking with us during those times of hardship and struggles...For that, we kicked the French's ass out of the World Cup in S.A.!
Ireland and Mexico, brothers at heart!
jav1182 1 year ago
I'm so proud to be Irish .. I'm also greatfull that Mexico honours our boys .. To the brave, the courageous, the strong and the dead
christophergowing 1 year ago 2
@christophergowing haha yeah. I've always liked Mexicans so it makes me proud knowing Irish people helped them fight the US.
BogMonkey53 1 year ago
Even tho they were out numbered and Out Guned They still fought for what they belived in.Which is Freedom And they stood by it like heros.
papadoc711 1 year ago
@papadoc711 Hi,those Irish are not well known by all mexicans but for the ones that know their battle for Mexico Riley and his Irish boys are considered HEROES that fought for a cause that wasn´t their war but they followed their concience and for me that is HONOR and COURAGE, they´re honored every year here in Mexico,we have a big debt to those heroes, since then any Irish is welcome in Mexico and I feel a strong magnetism with your people,God bless you Irish.
xhonavsky 1 year ago 4
@xhonavsky @xhonavsky yea i only new about it myself when my father told me the story,I couldn't belive the bravery of the irish that day they stood by the people who where just defending their country from tyrants,Viva Mexico Chara
papadoc711 1 year ago
long live the san patricio battallion! you are not forgotten in mexico!
marcusos1111 1 year ago
I'm Venezuelan. Lived in Ireland and I totally admire their spirit and their brave nature. Still today they will fight for any cause or nation just to deliever their freedom. I love Ireland and Irish people! I wish they will keep spreading all over the world to give the best of them to other cultures! Please Irish people come to Venezuela and save us from CHAVEZ!!!
Jeenymt 1 year ago 3
Every time I hear this song, I grow to love it more.
InCharacter 1 year ago
Larga vida a John Riley,un Heroe Nacional
Mikeangel03 1 year ago
Long live the San Patricio Battallón!
ViccardXViccc 1 year ago
A true solider obeys every order given.
A true hero is willing to fight the faults of his nation.
Here's to my ancestor who fought in the San Patricios. Erin Go Bragh, Viva Mexico. May our nations remain Sisters in Freedom, and may both nations soon be free of their troubles.
Lepper36 1 year ago
im a korean american woman...married to irishman in new york city...
and i can tell u all this.
DON'T EVER TALK BAD ABOUT MEXICAN PEOPLE IN FRONT OF AN IRISHMAN.. OR U WILL END UP IN HOSPITAL....SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN A NYC BAR.
GOD BLESS IRELAND
GOD BLESS MEXICO
yeonnie2go 1 year ago 37
@yeonnie2go God Bless you!!!
joesolese 8 months ago
@yeonnie2go Please tell your Husband He's awesome from a Irish-Mexican dude in Mexico, much appreciate it, it brings a smile to my face
elrockerchido 6 months ago
@yeonnie2go thnaks brooo long live to Ireland and long live to Mexico¡¡¡¡¡ we are like brothers¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ Ireland and Mexico will live for ever¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
o16m13a1r19 6 months ago
@yeonnie2go thats great i did not know that... i can relate our similarities quite a bit though which is great:)
God bless the St patricks battalion
aguichris 5 months ago
im a 100% sure that what im about to tell u here and now is a FACT...
we the IRISH...have ALWAYS LOVED THE MEXICAN PEOPLE...
ALWAYS HAVE..ALWAYS WILL.
GOD BLESS MEXICO.
GOD BLESS THE MEXICAN PEOPLE WORLDWIDE..AND PROTECT THEM.
GOD BLESS MEXICO FOUR Eternity...
love and respect four my mexican brothers and sisters..
irishman
mtst71 1 year ago 2
Hung during the flag raising. Thus be it to traitors.
gentlemenjocard 1 year ago
erin go bragh.
desrich006 1 year ago
It seems that Ireland is the most just nation in all of western Europe
100%
proteinP53 1 year ago 4
Remember the San Patricios:
A History of Mexican and Keltic Solidarity
Saturday, March 20, 2010 / 3PM-9PM
A Lecture presented by the Tonantzin Collective and the Mexica Movement PRESENTED AT:
El Centro Cultural de México 310 W. 5th Street / Santa Ana, CA 92701
Huitzilopochtl01 1 year ago 3
My kin were san patricio's and I Stand Behind the Men Behind the Wire!
Liberty or death!
LuckyShitZu 1 year ago 4
"Dissent is the purest form of patriotism."
-Thomas Jefferson
InCharacter 1 year ago
Lovely sad song. Love Irish people. much respect and love from Mexico USA.
guapoastaloscodoZ 1 year ago
God bless the Irishmen who fought for the catholic Mexico. Moreover, there were also germans, frenchmen, poles and swisses who also fought on the Mexican side.
The truth behind all this, is that the USA was (and it is still) ruled by freemasons and jews. They wanted to avoid to have a strong catholic empire as neighbor, therefore they attacked Mexico, so that the USA will have in the future the free path to declare war to any country which opposes jewish domination THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH
rocados2 2 years ago
Interesting in that John Riley of the song was acquitted of treason because he deserted before the war started. Also despite his commitment to Mexico he married a German woman and settled in the US. He lived in Northern Texas until his death in 1879, he was however buried in Mexico.
freebeerfordworkers 2 years ago 2
@freebeerfordworkers Just curious, where are you getting that from? Wikipedia has him dying at Veracruz in 1850 from alcohol poisoning...
battleax86 1 year ago
@battleax86 God doesn't You Tube come back to haunt you! It was some time ago but at least you are not abusive. It may have been Wikipepia as the do update but it was certainly from the internet.
According to that source Riley escaped treason charges because he deserted before the war, stayed in Texas and married a German woman, died many years after the war and was buried in Mexico at either his or the Mexicans request.
freebeerfordworkers 1 year ago
@freebeerfordworkers He wasn't charged with treason because he wasn't a US citizen. He was, however, convicted of desertion and escaped the death penalty on that charge because, as you said, it had technically occurred in peacetime. Haven't been able to find anything on the claim he lived in North Texas (where I'm from, ironically) married to a German woman, but it would be unlikely, as it's standard American policy to deport foreigners convicted of crimes...especially one of Riley's magnitude.
battleax86 1 year ago
@battleax86 Riley is a common Irish name so its possible there are two different men. Eminent historians have reached directly opposite conclusions when both missed an obscure document. OT but I know US immigration law is tight because this year a British guy who have lived and worked in Texas(?) for 10 years was stopped for a minor traffic violation. A computer showed his visa was 3 months out of date so he was jailed and put on the first flight back to Britain and out of the US for keeps.
freebeerfordworkers 1 year ago
@freebeerfordworkers Wow...it amazes me how the immigration service can bring the hammer down on someone from an allied country a little behind on his paperwork, but won't round up all the illegal Mexicans over here. I guess it might have been easier, since his name was already in the system.
As for Riley, his Mexican army records list him as "Juan Reley," which matches the Irishman who died in Veracruz in 1850. I suppose it could've been someone else...hell of a coincidence if it is, though.
battleax86 1 year ago
@battleax86 . I would not argue but I doubt US controls in 1840's were that good. BTW in the UK we are much more liberal. 8 Muslims picked up by the US in Afghanistan claim they were roughed up in Guantanamo Bay. None are or have ever been UK citizens but they had the good fortune to live here on welfare for a few months. With the help of British lawyers they have sued the government for failing to protect their rights & beenoffered £1 million (1.5$) each to STFU. Whom the gods wish to destroy?
freebeerfordworkers 1 year ago
@freebeerfordworkers That's crazy. I've heard getting benefits in Britain is so easy that even Americans have gone to Britain requesting asylum so they can leech off the government. If I were Cameron, I would've told them all to get stuffed and go back to Afghanistan or wherever they were from.
Riley was branded in the face with a "D" for deserter. Even in the 1840s, it would've been hard for him to hide, especially since most of America was made of rural towns where everyone knew everyone.
battleax86 1 year ago
I did read that most Irish soldiers stayed loyal to the US. When the Mexicans lost these Irish (also Catholics) were the most insistent that those who changed sides should be punished. Actual figures anyone?
On examination what passes for "history" - anyone's history - is 90% BS but our Irish "history" is the best. It registers 95%+ on the BS scale.
freebeerfordworkers 2 years ago
90.000 Deserters during the Amer-Mexican so called war(Land Grab)When stepping of the boat in the US the Irish were told by pipe smoking assholes"Join the army and you will be a US citizen in 5 yrs,then the Nativists and Know Nothings made it 25 yrs!Think anyone would fight on them terms for those gutless chinless wonders?FO!
billyhunchback 2 years ago
Wikipedias summary does not ignore the US aggression or the crimes committed by US volunteers. So their figure of 9200 US desertions should by reasonably accurate putting your 92k well into the 95%+ BS scale.
As to your FO, I understand this is the only possible response.
John Riley fought the US, had 50 of his men hanged by the US and escaped on legal grounds. He preferred to spend the rest of his life in the US rather than the country he fought for.
What else can you say to that but FO?
freebeerfordworkers 2 years ago
It's only now we can look objectively as what passed as our own history.. most young Irish who sought service in Armies might be seen as 'ecomonic conscripts'... used in a racist way by those major powers......a Bayonet thats a weapon with a working man at either end........
malachy1847 1 year ago
I am glad to know that there may be people who are capable of performing acts of such heroism and courage to defend a just cause and such noble ideals.
We are forced to sell and lose more than half of our territory with a valuable weapon in our heads at the price imposed by the invader.
As a Mexican I am pleased to give my sincere thanks and admiration to the courageous people of Ireland.
octormetatron 2 years ago 18
@octormetatron There was not one thing that was noble about what the "Batallón de San Patricio" did. Because of their treason millions if Irish were treated as trators in the USA for more than 60 years.
kraigthorne 1 year ago
@kraigthorne: I think it was a noble act.. The Mexican-American war was a land grab against a weaker enemy.. Sadly many Irish today wouldnt do it.. Far too many are too concerned with their own selfish wants to do something that is right.. George Washington served in the British army, he was landed gentry, he benefited more than most from the British system at the the time, yet he lead a rebellion against Britain, was he a traitor?
risteardsean 1 year ago
@kraigthorne: I think it was a noble act.. The Mexican-American war was a land grab against a weaker enemy.. Sadly many Irish today wouldnt do it.. Far too many are too concerned with their own selfish wants to do something that is right.. George Washington served in the British army, he was landed gentry, he benefited more than most from the British system at the the time, yet he lead a rebellion against Britain, was he a traitor?
risteardsean 1 year ago
The Mexican-American war, "one of the most unjust ever fought by a stronger against a weaker nation."
Ulysses S. Grant
harmlesstree 2 years ago 27
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I could care less what Ulysses S. Grant had to say. He was one of the worst presidents in US history. The fact is the Mexicans attacked American troops in American territory. They brought the war on themselves.
battleax86 2 years ago
"The fact is the Mexicans attacked American troops in American territory. They brought the war on themselves. "
Really? Well, someone needs to stop the brainwash from their country's history books and learn the REAL facts. The americans were crossing the Rio Grande so the mexicans fired up. Even if they WEREN'T crossing the Grande, they were still in Mexican territorry, since the actual border was the Nueces River, not the Grande.
sidwerd1hater 2 years ago 2
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LOL Are those the lies the Mexicans teach in their history books? Captain Thornton's patrol was NOT across the Rio Grande and the Rio Grande was the border under the 1836 Treaty of Velasco, regardless of Mexico's later claims. The Mexicans didn't really have a right to talk about borders either, as they frequently raided Texas (even briefly occupying San Antonio in 1842) before Texas joined the US. You're the one who needs to learn real facts, not Mexican nationalist lies.
battleax86 2 years ago
@battleax86 the treaty of velasco was not accepted by the goverment or recongnize becuse it was sign by a dictator so they claimed nueces river as the border and ur captian was rumored that he did crossed the border to get fired since USA wanted so much the territorie of mexico they wanted to provoke it and they used it as an excuse to invade the weak nation..... so i guess who has the last laugh wins lol
456024545 1 year ago
@456024545 It doesn't matter who the treaty was signed by. He was the legal head of state of Mexico at the time, so the treaty was valid. Not only that, but Mexico brought Santa Anna back to lead the Mexican army during the war, so it's not like they really hated him all that much...
battleax86 1 year ago
Not really. People just wanted him in power, he stayed a few days/weeks and then appointed another guy (mostly Valentín Gómez Faríaz) while he rested in his farm.
sidwerd1hater 1 year ago
@sidwerd1hater Only for a brief period in 1833, before Santa Anna forced him to flee to the US. Like him or not, Santa Anna was the legal head of state of Mexico when the Treaty of Velasco was signed, so the treaty was valid. It's not our fault the Mexicans allowed such a thoroughly incompetent man to lead their army.
battleax86 1 year ago
"so the treaty was valid"
Which of both?
sidwerd1hater 1 year ago
History is written by the Victors. History is written full of lies.
Lepper36 2 years ago 7
What exactly did I say that was false?
battleax86 2 years ago
Just read the saying, and remember the victor in the war.
Lepper36 2 years ago
Yes, I already know the saying and it's totally irrelevant right now. Nothing I said is false and not even the Mexicans (aside from idiots like sidwerd1hater) dispute anything I've said.
battleax86 2 years ago
I love the United States because I'm American but as a result of my Mexican descent, I couldn't help but tear after hearing this song...Long live John Riley! In Chicago, I live in a tough nieghborhood, and fear nothing as long as my chum Danny D'wire is long side me on 38th street...Thank you Irland
student38 2 years ago 15
Thank you very much for your kind words.
My mother's family is originally from Chicago, specifically in a neighborhood called Irondale on the Southeast Side.
blunt1984 2 years ago
Google:"Irelands Holocaust"To say the Irish died from lack of food is like saying the Jews died from lack of oxygen.Mucho Gracias for the post Mo Chara.Viva Mexico y Erin Go Bragh.All the best from your friends in Belfast.
billyhunchback 2 years ago 5
God bless the Irishmen who fought for the catholic Mexico. Moreover, there were also germans, frenchmen, poles and swiss who also fought on the Mexican side.
The truth behind all this, is that the USA was (and it is still) ruled by freemasons and jews. They wanted to avoid to have a strong catholic empire as neighbor, therefore they attacked Mexico, so that the USA will have in the future the free path to declare war to any country which opposes jewish domination THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH
rocados2 2 years ago
@rocados2 Well you can just stick your antisemitism in a sack, mister.
shakeystevensVIII 1 year ago
in the anthem of my country have a phrase wich says: "serve our feats as a model to the whole earth". Irish people are brave people, real freedom fighters. What you do and what you did serve as a model to the whole earth.
VIVA IRLANDA!!!
salute from Rio Grande do Sul
veiocharrua 2 years ago 6
EXELENTE "VIVA IRLANDA"
aleherar 2 years ago 3
Tienen que leer abajo a arriba pero hice que podria. Probeche carnades.
traviskearney 2 years ago 2
up the irish ireland freedom !!!
they fought for fellow CATHOLICS
14689001456789900000 2 years ago 3
No podrimos ganarlas armas de Boston. Nos caimos despues cada arma despidido. La mayoria de nosotros moriemos, alli arriba del montana. En el servicio del Estado de Mexico. Muy lejos del nuestra pais ocupado. Estabamos hroes y victimas del destino. De Dublin City (Capitol De Irlanda) a San Diego, vimos gente sin el liberdad. Entonces nos formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. No formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico.
traviskearney 2 years ago 3
Estamos los peliadores de liberdad con pelo rojo. Al lado de los morrenos y morrenas. Juntos peliamos contra de oprecion. Y CLARO que haceramos una vez mas! De Dublin City (Capitol De Irlanda) a San Diego, vimos gente sin el liberdad. Entonces nos formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. No formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. Peliamos con ellos en 5 batellas grandes. Churibusco fue la ultima.
traviskearney 2 years ago 2
Solomente 50 anos des pues Wolftone, 5000 miles de alli. Los gringos dijeron que nosotros eran raros, y puden decir que los quieron. De Dublin City (Capitol De Irlanda) a San Diego, vimos gente sin el liberdad. Entonces nos formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. Nos Peliamos en Mantalores?, a donde los voluntarios de E
EUU estaban violando las hermanas (de Dios). En Monterrey y Sierra Gordo, peliamos como los hijos de Irlanda.
traviskearney 2 years ago 2
Yo y 200 Irlandes contesatamos la pregunta de, "Que es correcto?"
De Dublin City (Capitol De Irlanda) a San Diego, vimos gente sin el liberdad. Entonces nos formadamos el batallon de San Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. No formadamos el batallon de San. Patricio, y peliamos por el lado de Mexico. Marchemos abajo del banderra de San Patricio, que llevo las palabras, "Erin Go Braugh," (Viva Irlanda en Irlandes). Tambien llevo la arpa y el trebol, y "Liberdad Para El Republica."
traviskearney 2 years ago 2
Me Nombre es John Riley. Voy a tener tu atencion por solo un momentito. Deje me casaita en Irlanda. Mis opciones fue morirme, starvacion, o exiliado. Cuando llege a EEUU. Me forzaron a ir a entrar
El militar y peliar por Texas en la guerra contra de Mexico. Y estaba alli en los pueblitos y la tierra que lo vi que me equivoce. Estaba parte de un militar de conquistadores con morales de solo matar. Y alli con los pobres Catolicos se murieron, ninos gritandos, la huelle del casas en fuegos.
traviskearney 2 years ago 2
Mis respetos y Honores para estos bravos y valientes soldados irlandeses que dierón su vida y vertierón su sangre en mi amada y querida tierra, peleando en contra de un invasor tirano y abusivo, los hombres mueren, pero su honor, valor y recuerdo son INMORTALES. Honor y Gloria por siempre. Viva México e Irlanda.
ekanss9 2 years ago 2
Does anyone out there know where i can get a copy of the Mark Day documentry"The San Patricios:The tragic story of the St.Patricks Battalion"?
poguemothon 2 years ago
I'm not sure. But I hope someone else answers your question because I'd like to get a copy of it myself.
I couldn't even find a DVD copy of the most recent 1999 movie about them, "One Man's Hero", starring Tom Berenger as Sergeant / Lieutenant / Captain John Riley!
blunt1984 2 years ago
Was at the movie when it premiered at the Kennedy Center in W.Belfast.You will find a copy of "One Mans Hero"at Amazon.Good luck to you and Slan.
poguemothon 2 years ago 3
Yeah, when I tried to find it a couple of years ago, I could only find it on VHS Cassette Tape.
But I'll check out what I can find now sometime.
Thanks for the info:)
blunt1984 2 years ago
Hey, thanks so much. I must've been looking in the wrong places before, because I just bought a used copy of "One Man's Hero" at an entertainment store in my town yesterday.
It's already in my top 10 movies of all time!
blunt1984 2 years ago
Hey my man! thanks for the reference.
Im lead drummer on that pie band
Cheers!!!
popol159 2 years ago 3
Just after reading"The Rogues March"by Peter F.Stevens Brilliant!!!
poguemothon 2 years ago 2
all I can say..is wow! this really makes me proud of being mexican even if I was born in the US.
Long Live Los San Patricios
OCV7 2 years ago 3
Good to know, Take care, blunt. God Bless.
vinnyhoags 2 years ago 2
I like this Vid, blunt84, Keep getting the truth out there,boyo. Great stuff.
vinnyhoags 2 years ago 2
Yeah, you actually first commented on it a year ago!-LoL
I'm happy it was worth more than one.
blunt1984 2 years ago
Shift work is making me bloody daft. It was worth commenting on again,blunt. You might get some more repeat comments, live with it blunt me boy, cause it's all good. My wife is to blame. Ah well, her being English, can't blame them for everything. lol.
vinnyhoags 2 years ago 2
No problem pal. The more comments the better.
Wolf Arden just commented on a video of mine, My Tribute to the Faith, that she first commented on a year ago also.
So you are not alone!-LoL
And, of course, the more comments, the more your vids show up on searches.
blunt1984 2 years ago
I did notice a Roger Hogan in there, my fathers surname he gave to me. He is my hero, and fighting for his life right now in East Orange. He told me ," No regrets, I am proud of my people."
vinnyhoags 2 years ago 2
, Berney Hart, Thomas Millet, Hezekiah Akles, John Bartely, Alexander McKee, F.W. Garretson. erin go bragh
movamex 2 years ago 2
Martin Miles, Abraham Fitzpatrick, John Murphy, Lewis Preifer, John Benedick, John Rose, Lachlar McLanchlen, Patrick Casey, John Brooke, Roger Duhan, James Speers, Martin Lydon, Dennis Conahan, Auguste Morartaft, James McDowell, Gibson McDowell, Hugh McClelland, John McDonald, John Cavanaugh, Thomas Casidy, John Daly, James Kelly, John Littie, Henry Logenhame, Henry Venator, Francis Rhode, John Klager, Alfred K. Fogal, George Jackson, William OConnor, Richard Hanly, John Appleby, George Dalwig.
movamex 2 years ago 2
Capitán John OReilly, Thomas Riley, James Mills, Lawrence McKay, Francis OConnor, Peter Neil, Kerr Delaney, Patrick Antison, Harrison Kenny, Roger Hogan,John Sheehan, John A. Myers, Richard Parker, Lemuel Wheaton, Samuel H Thomas, David McElroy, Parian Fritz, John Bowers, M. T. Frantius, Henry Mewer, Henry Octker, Henry Whistler, Wil/iam H. Keeck, Edward McHerron , Andrew Nolan, Patrick Dalton, John Cuttle, John Price, Wil/iam Oathouse, Wlliam A. Wallace, Elizier S. Lusk, Herman Schmidt
movamex 2 years ago 2
¡Erin go bragh!
bombo32 2 years ago 2
God bless the land that saw born John Riley.
blesses to Ireland and to the sons and daughters.
!!! Viva México & Viva Irlanda Cabrones !!!
rubichoper 2 years ago 2
Very good video.Thankyou for posting.
leadman1979 2 years ago 2
because of white supremacy the government doesnt want to put this in the textbooks just like how they say no one knows how all the aztecs and mayans disappeared. its so obvious why they disapeared the spaniards bruned their books and raped and burned them they dont say that..
ADRIANR2D 2 years ago 3
I think more of the reason is because the US government doesn't want Americans to realize that its foreign policy has been imperialistic in both the past and present; and that there were Americans who were willing to fight and die to stand against it.
The government doesn't want this story known because they don't want it to inspire Americans to (for example) demand that they shut down all US military bases in foreign countries, and bring all of our troops home.
(That's just my theory.)
blunt1984 2 years ago
The Aztecs and Maya did not disappear. I have had two ex gf's who are Aztec and Maya. The empire's were crushed by a combination of things, but the people are still very much alive.
traviskearney 2 years ago 7
i do believe we still are here us aztecs and mayas but the spanish still destroyed beautiful things they are the biggest hypocrites on earth
ADRIANR2D 2 years ago 2