Charleston Fire - Tapes Released

[231mjm]

didn't read all of you post sorry

[231mjm]

If the broke the window after the gases reached flashpoint it would have caused a flashover. Once flashpoint is reached all it takes is oxygen, which is introduced when a window is broken.

[1f5sda]

@JLHOWARD40 Thanks!

[bllymcgvrn123]

If they hadn't broken the window for ventilation the flashover never would have occurred... RIP

[FFLilFox]

Some of these people need to listen to the 7 hrs of tape... it's available. Listen and be humbled. There is a lot to learn and if you dispatch also there is A LOT to learn. When you hear a dieing firefighter say "Tell my wife, I love you" you'd shut up about whether you get a paycheck or not. And if your brother passes DOING the job... you'd shut up too. God Bless these men, their brothers, their families and God bless the IC and other officers in command of this scene who must live with this

[jrsyff86]

YOU KNOW I AM SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING AND HEARING ABOUT THE WHOLE VOLUNTEER VS PAID FIREFIGHTER BULLSHIT....ESPECIALLY ON VIDEOS THAT INCLUDES MY DEAD BROTHERS/SISTERS!!! PEOPLE WHO ARGUE BOUT THIS ARENT FIREFIGHTERS AT ALL!!!! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES YOU FUCKING BADGEBUNNIES!!!! FIRE DONT CARE WHO THE HELL YOU ARE...IT KILLS EVERYONE!!! SHOW SOME DAMN RESPECT TO THE REAL FIREFIGHTERS OUT THERE AND STOP POSTING BULLSHIT!

[1f5sda]

;_; RIP We will miss those good men!

[triple34]

There is no diffrence. It all comes from the heart and soul. There are more vols than career firefighters..Where is the brotherhood/sisterhood. I've been a firefighter for 9 years in a career department I don't get it. we all have families we are all human why the big divide. to me the issue is that we as firefighter have to do better to make sure this don't happen again. lets be proactive..check out my channel.

be safe out there brave men and women.

[MrFiredog37]

The negativity of paid versus volunteer has got to stop. There are people that like to stroke their egos on BOTH sides. The main thing that should be discussed is what real lessons have we learned from this tragedy. Spend more time with your family, pick your battles wisely, enjoy life because you never know. If you insist on having a negative attitude, maybe this profession is not for you, paid or volunteer.

[brmf1218]

My boyfriend is a firefighter for a volunteer dept. and despite if you are paid or not, you do it b.c you love the rush and the peace of mind that you are giving back to your community. For those of you who have commented on this that have said negative things about this herioc 9 men who lost their lives in the line of duty, these are your fellow brothers, your FAMILY. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Paid or volunteer, you all do the same, so have respect for those lives lost.

[1f5sda]

@JLHOWARD40 It is.

[1strumbum]

I can't believe the ignornce I have read here today. I don't believe anyone here has any experience on the matter. I have been a truckie for department a bit larger than Charleston and these guys died "doing". they had water problems and go reports of entrapment. Conditions took a turn for the worst and firefighters were unable to find their way out. There are fires in which conditions are not as bad or appear as bad until you get deep in. Other times, conditions change in a flash.

[Savannahsmine53]

who cares bout what that chief did or if they are paid or volunteer what is more important is that america has lost nine brothers from this fire and your just pissed cuz of the chief or what type of department they are. it does not matter they gave their best and they gave america all they have gotten and it was their time to go so just be proud of our brothers if any one who commented on this video that is a firefighter cuz i am one and i am proud of what they did.

[cycleridn93]

did y'all ever think maybe they were going out but got the call and as one made the choice to do the search. They died together yes it shouldnt have happened but they died trying to save each other and nobody will ever know what they went through. just let them rest in peace

[Firebrother343]

Yeah, I had to do a long report on this fire for one of my classes and if you take the time to read the incident report you would be disgusted with some actions taken on this fire. Not to mention exposed truss roof members involved in the fire for a lengthy amount of time and you still send people in there with no remaining life safety risks. There is a very good reason why Charelston has a new fire administration now. R.I.P. to the 9 brothers that lost their lives in this event.

[Wonkawillie77]

Was there someone trapped in the back of the structure?

[deyber3341]

if ther wasnt people in their i would have done a defense attact

[fyrman324]

Dont knock it till youve actually been in the business,not as a hobby firefighter but a Professionally Trained one,there is a big difference

[country10614]

Thats Bullshit you must be a paid one, the only difference between career and volunteer is paychecks. We do it because we LOVE it and LOVE helping our fellow neighbors. WE did it 24/7! not 24 hours at a time. WE dont need a paycheck to risk our lives, we do it for the PRIDE!

[drsine]

@country10614

Amen. most firefighters in the U.S. are volunteers. we love helping people and will risk our lives without a second thought to save those who are savable.

praise your local firefighters becuase we're a selfless breed. we care more about you than we do ourselves.

Signed,

Jared Blaylock

Campbell County Fire Dept., Wyoming

# P-22

[93CFD]

i hope rusty is enjoying his life as a uniform salesman... he should be making license plates

[BakupAlarmIsPow3rcal]

the first line they pulled was a booster line

[93CFD]

so what if it was... they used every size line they had that night... dont knock it unless you were there and saw that it was pulled on the smaller fire in the back when it first started... they had no way to know it was in the attic at that point...

[TrainsforGTA]

risk little to save little. risk alot to save alot

[WRCATFISH]

there was no safety officer, no ic and yes it was another one of many fires. the assistant chief saw smoke drop and suck back into the drop ceiling... i guess in reality there is nowhere else for you all to argue your point . i just wish you didnt have to do it here... the city now has a great chief and lots of new policies are in place and the dept is better for it... a lot of the nepatism has been run off and new smart blood in those positions. we all learned and thats all that i have tosay..

[sledneckzl600]

ya in one of my fire science classes i had to do a report on this fire unbeliveable the stuff i found i ended up writing 6 pages

[sledneckzl600]

where was the safety officer in this?

[Sweeper1426]

This chief is anything but an asshole. He realized that more would die trying to save their brothers. Yes, the men hated them at the time, but they later thanked him. We study this in every firefighting and command class. I am sure it was the hardest thing the chief ever did, but it took more from him to say no more than it did to let more run in. I am sure the men who died are happy to know that their chief stood in front of the entrance so no more of THEIR BROTHERS would die.

[dp62786]

My cousin was one of those lost on 6-18. I got to meet the Chief, and I saw in his eyes the pain, the sorrow that him and his men went through that day. I pray to God that you will never have to to go through what he went through. God Bless the Charleston 9.

[firecadet153]

everytime i hear that story about the chief i get goosebumps. its sad. we have a small dept and we're all so close, something like that would just ruin us.

[brewfighter]

Way to be a champion. As a firefighter, I understand this statement very well. It is not that difficult to understand the responsibility needed to be in a command position. It is beyond commendable that the fallens brothers were at the front door. Its even more commendable for the chief to make that decision...and have his firefighters obey. No doubt there were mistakes in this fire, but no doubt.....NO DOUBT....they were all heroes.

[Firebrother343]

To Sweeper1426's comment. The IC is the reason the 9 died in the first place. I hope you studied what NOT to do as a IC from this fire. There was no unified command, intial attack teams used booster lines and the building had a truss style roof with fire in the void space between the cieling and roof. There was absolutly no reason for all those men to be inside that building at the time of the flashover and collapse.If IC did his job, he wouldn't have had to stop others from going in.

[Sweeper1426]

I agree with you that there were problems. There are few fires that go "as planned." But my response was to a comment that the chief was an "asshole." That was not an appropriate comment. There's many of times when we shouldn't be in fires but we are anyways. It's the nature of the job especially when life is on the line and even more so when one of those lives is one of our own.

[Firebrother343]

I understand what you are saying. I do not in anyway want to disrespect the 9 that died but I do have to say I lost all respect for the Asst. Chief, when he was asked if he could do anything different would he have, his reply was "No, my firefighters did their job." That response just rubs me the wrong way. Not trying to play monday moring QB here but just my thoughts.

[sheriff1262]

@Firebrother343 are you serious taht he said "No, my firerfighters did their job." ? Wow, he has is so arrogant, does he really get that 9 of his firefighters lost their lives because of the choices he made? To put them in a fully involved building with poor build structure with fire, and 1 3/4" booster lines? Really, i mean there at that time was no known life in the building, Very poor choice on the Asst. Chief's part.

[bresq343]

I agree with most of what you have said...You have to remember that the IC was not there until the fire was well involved. The first arriving units assumed command.

[93CFD]

@Sweeper1426 its obvious that you do not know rusty...when rusty was at the door it was when noone could get within 25 ft of the door... od went around him and still couldnt get that close... he is a poser... i dont blame you for believing what you read but remember,,, only a chosen few were interviewed...and oh yea, the men still hate him...

[Sweeper1426]

@93CFD Disregard my previous statements then. I understand how selective interviewing and releasing of information goes. Either way, it's one of the greatest tragedies the fire service has had. Just goes to prove we need to educate ourselves. It's unfortunate that the real story then was not released, maybe the real truth about this event could help save the lives of our brothers in the future. Stay safe out there everyone.

[paigerockson]

Their Chief is a fucking assssssHOLE!

[brewfighter]

No, your an assssssssHOLE!

[paigerockson]

So what do you do? Do you spend most of your time debating comments on youtube? In fact, I have read most of these and although you seem 'enthousiastic", at best,you are also a textbook idiot.

[guitarkilla]

I remember when this happened. I was actually over on James Island on a service call. From then till the day I moved, I drove by that place every day. Very sad. God rest their weary souls.

Rest In Peace, men...

[davemanning53]

what the fuck?!

[1nh15]

Great Job Summerville High School. Good Bless you and the families of the Charleston 9.

[RichardDdog]

god bless man. It just makes me want to be a firefighter even more, seeing how honorably these guys acted. They're heros

[Fire9Fighters]

Coach_and_Captain_Louis_Mulkey­!Sadly he passed away,he was a coach for Summerville High School,but a miracle happened:Summerville remembers fallen Coach Louis Mulkey,also was aired on ESPN.This was a horrible situation;but if you c the ending of the video,Mulkey knows that he will die in the disastrous fire,he says, Tell my wife I said.I LOVE YOU.and automaticly dies.RIP.I hope that South Carolina,no the whole planet Earth,never goes through a horrible thing as this.:(

-Cynthia Vital, Student

[yekmos92]

It was a very sad video, Rest in pease Brothers,I have been in the fire service for 30 years, Seem to me if dispatch was flooded with calls chief officers should have pulled

the plug on any interior operations, as a chief officer sometimes you have to weigh the odd, It"s hard to do at times but I would never trade 9 lifes for 1, Only if i feel there is no chance, Michel Massari RFD Chief officer

[brewfighter]

I completely respect your experience and your knowledge. I have only worked a third of your time in the service; However....if we never saved one life, we never saved any.....and all the firefighters we lost were for not, if one life wasnt saved? Think about that statement, sir....this is our duty, our calling...our responsibility. In solidarity I respect your statement. Stay safe.

[Metalman]

god bless my fallen brothers....

[zozajiek]

what started this fire?

[balloonmonster]

or what

[dfdemt]

It was started by employees (allegedly) in the area where they took smoking breaks. It was back in the loading dock area. Smoldering smoking materials ignited refuse. This is according to the official LODD report. We reviewed it in training class at the dept where I am a career firefighter.

[acromatic1000]

geno, bless your heart.that was one hard call for you to take. i cant say a whole lot of good about rbt except what was he thinking sending them in there with smoke blowing out with that much force. especially in a sofa store. we worked and messed with all 9 and i still see them and sometimes call their names.your a good man geno, mark haight

[ZIGGY483]

BROTHERS WE WILL NEVER FORGET YOU!! Yes there was mistakes made but let us learn from them and NOT repeat them, so as not to lose more needlessly. As Essentials states SOP (standard operating procedure),should follow- Life Safety,Incident Stabilization,Property Conservation. No property is worth any lives!

[brewfighter]

As Essentials state...yes...#1. Life Safety. Risk a lot to save a lot. I believe these firefighters were doing just that. Life safety counts for civilians also. This is the "fine" line that makes these firefighters heroes. Never forget their sacrifice.

[Firebrother343]

Risk a lot to save alot. That's right. However, at the time the 9 firefighters died, there was no one else in the building. No reason for an offensive attack with the building in the condition it was in and with no one left inside. The last person was pulled out of the building long before the flashover and collapse. No disrespect to the men we lost. I have nothing but love for my brothers, but the command of this fire is what killed the 9. Really look into the facts of this fire and you'll see.

[brewfighter]

Im not saying that mistakes werent made. However, saving lives is the paradigm of our service. I have read the report, and if Im not mistaken, there was a lot of confusion about the occupants of the building. There is something to learn from every incident, not just the ones that go bad. You and every other firefighter have the right to criticize the actions by all parties involved in this incident, it doesnt change the fact that they were heros, and that they died trying to do their best.

[Firebrother343]

I'm not saying the men who went in didn't do their best and perform as expected. They gave everything. Just pointing out the blatant disregaurd for safty regulations, supresion tactics and numerous other factors that the IC did not take into consideration before getting his men killed. My entire point was that our 9 dead brothers' deaths could have been avoided. That is the reason the top tier of the fire administration was replaced shortly after this tragic fire.

[PrincessDebiLA21]

this made me cry. omg they did a great job. may they rest in peace and happiness.