Hi, I just want to say that this is very helpful. I'm a very beginning composer and everyone tells me to read scores. But it gets very frustrating when I don't really know what to look for. Thank you for pointing these things out. The only thing that maybe I could suggest is a cursor on the score if possible. I get a little lost trying to follow along. But regardless, thank you very much!
@MikeyIV Yup, that's intentional - I am trying to get your brain to do some heavy lifting, so that your eyes become accustomed to finding the right notes on the page. Thanks for your kind comments!
As someone who is somewhat of a beginning score reader myself, I find the most important thing is to listen to the piece a few times first to get a good idea of how it sounds. Then when reading through it the best things to look for to keep you on track are volume indicators (pp,p,f,ff, cresc, dimin), tempo indicators (Allegro etc), rests and rhythmic ideas that stand out on a page, and very high and low notes that jut out the most obviously both on the score and to your ear.
Hi Thomas, I have viewed all your videos a couple of times now but find this one the most valuable as you give analysis of the scoring and have the score highlighted ot help. Could I request you consider a series now maybe called score analysis, where you have excerpts of the score you wish to look at, the music playing and your insights - i feel this is the most valuable way to deliver your knowledge now you have laid the groundwork in oyur oter videos - hope you like this idea.
@NickDenizard Sibelius, which allows you to highlight notes, bars, and passages in different colors. There are also any number of low-cost graphics programs like Pixelmator in which you can do the same thing from a screen grab.
This is such an amazing video! I am so deficient in my reading ability, but I find that I can watch this and follow along with the highlighted melody while listening and it really makes so much sense. The fact that it is a familiar piece means I can anticipate what is coming next and really keep up. Thank you for making this so interesting and fun!
My top 10: Ravel, Stravinsky, Ellington, Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, Webern, Mahler, Richard Strauss, and Thomas Goss. I love your "The 7 Deadly Sins (of a dog)" and especially the orchestration your secret encore to that piece. Sorry if I've said too much. (: Great Videos, great concepts. I look forward to more discussions.
Another Great Video. I believe this is the best type of video that we can offer the world. I would suggest 10 more videos in this series - your ten best orchestrated scores with comments on why. The more music you put in these lessons, the more times listeners will watch them I am guessing. I am especially pleased with your ability to silently comment on the orchestration using text at the top of the score. I also like the intros that you give to each segment.
One suggestion: after you do the color analysis of a passage, it would help I think if you replayed the same clip while displaying the color-coded score so I compare & contrast all the different colors and practice listening to various instruments and combinations of instruments while staring at the visual guide.
This was totally the most useful video you've posted so far! I'm fascinated by the accidentals in the opening of the 2nd movement: 2nd full bar in the celli/bass part and bars 10 & 11 in the 1st violin part. The bassoons doubling the violas in bars 9 & 10 of the 3rd mvmt makes sense because that section needs more motion, while returning to doubling the celli/basses in the next 4 bars serves to "anchor" the new heavier melody.
Please post more case studies like this please pretty please!!!
Very nice videos. I have to practice my sight reading because i read a score note by note and i find it hard to read the globality...I hope i ll get better at this with practice.
Anyway Mozart is a the perfect exemple to start reading orchestral scores , it s not too complicated but so beautiful.
Very cool. Will you be moving onto some contemporary stuff at all? Would be great to hear your thoughts on Mark-Anthony Turnage's recent stuff or work of Toru Takemitsu
Doelman, you are a born composer. You've got it in your blood. Don't sweat the terminology, because as you get better at your craft, all of this will start to make sense to you.
Hi, I just want to say that this is very helpful. I'm a very beginning composer and everyone tells me to read scores. But it gets very frustrating when I don't really know what to look for. Thank you for pointing these things out. The only thing that maybe I could suggest is a cursor on the score if possible. I get a little lost trying to follow along. But regardless, thank you very much!
MikeyIV 1 month ago
@MikeyIV Yup, that's intentional - I am trying to get your brain to do some heavy lifting, so that your eyes become accustomed to finding the right notes on the page. Thanks for your kind comments!
OrchestrationOnline 1 month ago
@MikeyIV
As someone who is somewhat of a beginning score reader myself, I find the most important thing is to listen to the piece a few times first to get a good idea of how it sounds. Then when reading through it the best things to look for to keep you on track are volume indicators (pp,p,f,ff, cresc, dimin), tempo indicators (Allegro etc), rests and rhythmic ideas that stand out on a page, and very high and low notes that jut out the most obviously both on the score and to your ear.
iTzNoxy 1 month ago
Hi Thomas, I have viewed all your videos a couple of times now but find this one the most valuable as you give analysis of the scoring and have the score highlighted ot help. Could I request you consider a series now maybe called score analysis, where you have excerpts of the score you wish to look at, the music playing and your insights - i feel this is the most valuable way to deliver your knowledge now you have laid the groundwork in oyur oter videos - hope you like this idea.
ZeroZaz 2 months ago
thanks a lot for making these videos! they can really help a lot.:)
Tylon27 3 months ago
You are a great teacher, thank you for your time and commitment in making all the videos!
melodymirage 8 months ago
If I may ask, what software are you using to highlight selected passages?
NickDenizard 8 months ago
@NickDenizard Sibelius, which allows you to highlight notes, bars, and passages in different colors. There are also any number of low-cost graphics programs like Pixelmator in which you can do the same thing from a screen grab.
OrchestrationOnline 8 months ago
@OrchestrationOnline Ah, Alright. Thank you.
NickDenizard 8 months ago
The amount of time, expertise and dedication it took to make this video has really paid off ..... this is excellent.
jpstenino 10 months ago
Fantastic stuff- Thank you.
JudgeFredd 1 year ago
excellent information!!!
I propose a challenge; do the same with Schoenberg's pelleas und mellisande.
ezev8logos 1 year ago
This is such an amazing video! I am so deficient in my reading ability, but I find that I can watch this and follow along with the highlighted melody while listening and it really makes so much sense. The fact that it is a familiar piece means I can anticipate what is coming next and really keep up. Thank you for making this so interesting and fun!
Lot2learn 2 years ago
My top 10: Ravel, Stravinsky, Ellington, Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, Webern, Mahler, Richard Strauss, and Thomas Goss. I love your "The 7 Deadly Sins (of a dog)" and especially the orchestration your secret encore to that piece. Sorry if I've said too much. (: Great Videos, great concepts. I look forward to more discussions.
hornuser 2 years ago
Another Great Video. I believe this is the best type of video that we can offer the world. I would suggest 10 more videos in this series - your ten best orchestrated scores with comments on why. The more music you put in these lessons, the more times listeners will watch them I am guessing. I am especially pleased with your ability to silently comment on the orchestration using text at the top of the score. I also like the intros that you give to each segment.
I look forward to the next!
hornuser 2 years ago
Thanks for the videos. really motivating and informative.
I'm from india and if you have time can you listen and rate this piece of music watch?v=wz-MTrlIG_8
Details of the composer are in the info box.
Ofcourse the recoding and playing quality arent the best. But just wanted to get your opinion on the orchestration. TIA.
Tanumanism 2 years ago
One suggestion: after you do the color analysis of a passage, it would help I think if you replayed the same clip while displaying the color-coded score so I compare & contrast all the different colors and practice listening to various instruments and combinations of instruments while staring at the visual guide.
Burgundia1980 2 years ago
This was totally the most useful video you've posted so far! I'm fascinated by the accidentals in the opening of the 2nd movement: 2nd full bar in the celli/bass part and bars 10 & 11 in the 1st violin part. The bassoons doubling the violas in bars 9 & 10 of the 3rd mvmt makes sense because that section needs more motion, while returning to doubling the celli/basses in the next 4 bars serves to "anchor" the new heavier melody.
Please post more case studies like this please pretty please!!!
Burgundia1980 2 years ago
Very nice videos. I have to practice my sight reading because i read a score note by note and i find it hard to read the globality...I hope i ll get better at this with practice.
Anyway Mozart is a the perfect exemple to start reading orchestral scores , it s not too complicated but so beautiful.
Thank you for your tips
Maxpianoplaying 2 years ago
luv this :o)
e5acf4 2 years ago
Very cool. Will you be moving onto some contemporary stuff at all? Would be great to hear your thoughts on Mark-Anthony Turnage's recent stuff or work of Toru Takemitsu
tommyk77 2 years ago
Thank you, I (we?) appreciate your videos so much!
WLADm 2 years ago
Doelman, you are a born composer. You've got it in your blood. Don't sweat the terminology, because as you get better at your craft, all of this will start to make sense to you.
OrchestrationOnline 2 years ago
Nice work! But sadly enough I don't understand the most of this stuff :(
doelman 2 years ago
I really enjoy your videos, even when I don´t comment all of them. Great job! 5*****
Best regards, Frank
LONGWINDING 2 years ago