@nervousordo A lot of people are quick to say this, but when Earth is threatened, they expect NASA to show up and fill in details, from tracking objects headed for earth, or providing precise details when a hurricane or other weather disaster is approaching, they do contribute necessary information. We could do away with NASA and never know if something is headed towards us, not have things that run off satellites like GPS. There is plenty of tax money going wasted, but not to NASA
@nervousordo Compared to all the other gross and horrific spending done by governments, NASA and it's compatriots like JPL and SETI are noble scientific endeavors the help us understand the universe. HOW IT WORKS, man. Which can, in fact, prevent the poor and starving from even existing. The Earth is a planet that is becoming smaller every day, and if we don't find a way to colonize our solar system, the human race will die out here. Never knowing the answers to the questions it asks.
They gave their lives for science, exploration and a better quality of life for all Humanity, that was their duty even though they never knew, now our duty to them is to make space voyages safer and more practical. They died so we know how difficult and dangerous is to try to get to space and we can have a better chance to it; let's not forget that, ever.
@saultube44 Please explain to me how Nasa helps humanity for a better life?!! its an american enterprise and all that it cares is american interests, the same goes with russians etc, i should better remind you that the majority of people around the planet are poor, do not have access to water and food, but american companies have factories all around the world and have kids working all day for nothing, and of course never forget the troops in Iraq and around the world, i despise your ignorance!!
@1Heretic I know all that that's why I participate in WorldCommunityGrid[.]Org "genius", and they do it for science to explore and give the information free over the Internet, NASA is part of the International Space Station, so is not just USA interests, pessimistic blind dumbass.
@saultube44 You obviously have severe brain damage so its no point to argue with you any more because you are unable to get my point, live in your bubble and enjoy your ignorance until it lasts, i hope you never wake up from your sleep, i m sure is the worst that can happen to you
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Heres one for ya. They think they found a piece of the black Astronaut, then they discovered is was chunk of radiator hose. Why was Christa's eyes blue. One blew this way, and one blew that way. Ya iv heard them. Amazing, no columbia jokes.
The "oxygen" tanks the astronauts carried didn't contain actual oxygen, and were not pressurized they were for use if the astronauts had to evacuate the suttle while on the launch pad. See PEAPS (personal egress air pack). The PEAP that was found to have been activated belonged to pilot Mike Smith, and would have been activated by MS Resnik, since it was mounted on the back of his seat frame. Cdr Scobees PEAP was also recovered and had not been activated.
@TIMPANIMAN1 Its interesting that if you google PEAPS (and then wikipedia) they have a photo of the cooling units used to transport the crew to the pad. Those are not PEAPS. The actual PEAPS are much smaller and like you said, mount to the seats.
@amgen52 Right, the PEAPs for Cdr Scobee and pilot Smith were on the backs of their seat frames, while the PEAPS for mission specialists Resnik and Onizuka were mounted to the flight deck floor beside their seats. It is interesting that Mike Smith's recovered PEAP showed it had been activated and somewhat depleted, but Cdr Scobees was not activated at all. That leads me to believe that they began the process of trying to save themselves but lost consciousness quickly.
@TIMPANIMAN1 The mission specialist PEAPS are mounted on the sides of their seats and the CDR/PLT on the back as you said. There was no room to mount them on the sides. Thats why seat 3/4 MS's had to turn the PLT/CDR's on. I installed them for flight.
@amgen52 Right. I always thought it was interesting that Scobees was not activated, but Smith's was. I'm reasonably sure their emergency check list would have has MS Resnik turn on Smith's PEAP first, but she apparently never got to Scobees.
@TIMPANIMAN1 No, the CDR flies the ship. He is first. It was not determined during the investigation wether the PEAPS were actually turned on by the crew or if blunt force triggered them on despite breathing air being evacuated from the bottles.
@amgen52 Yeah, that's true, they presumed MS Resnik may have activated the one PEAP, as was procedure, but they never could say for sure, could they? You know your stuff about this, I'm impressed, as I consider myself to be relatively informed on all things Challenger. My dad knew Greg Jarvis professionally, had met him once or twice. I was pretty sure that under flight conditions, the pilots PEAP would have been activated first, but you sound like you know what you're talking about. Nice chat!
@TIMPANIMAN1 Resnik sat in seat 4 which is the flt. eng. position. Her job would be to turn on both PEAPS. It was never determined if she did.Remember, the pilot in command is the CDR in the left seat. He does launch,aborts, landings etc. The pilot (right seat) flies mostly on orbit and gets about 10 sec. of landing approach.
@amgen52 Oh, OK, thanks for clarifying that. I always thought it was interesting that in the pre-launch CVR tapes, Cdr. Scobee is heard to say that he isn't going to lock his harness restraint- I think he said in case he had to reach something. I always wondered if the fact that he apparently didn''t have his harness locked had any bearing on the PEAP issue- I don't see how it could, but it always struck me as a little odd. Ever hear anything in that regard?
@TIMPANIMAN1 They are locked in their seats before the hatch closes. It normal and mandatory. There are too many things attached to them to be able to move anywhere. Like O2, comm and flight data files. If you get out of your seat with all the ground support platforms removed, you fall 5 ft. Everything related to launch is reachable from the CDR/ PLT seats. They cant reach their PEAPS at all.
@amgen52 I would have thought so as well- in the CVR transcript, Scobee clearly states he isn't locking his harness- They wore 5 point belt locks, right? So he either had his harness locked, or he didn't, right? I wonder what he meant?
@TIMPANIMAN1 The 5 harnesses in the unlocked position let you move and reach much like car belts but if you are jolted, they lock. In the locked position, once they are pulled out of the reel and put in the buckle, the reel is locked and there is no movement. There is a lever on the R/H side of the seat that lets them choose. But it does not really make a diff. in the vertical pulling 3 constant g's.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but human life has a dollar value. If it didn't , there would of been redundant safety measures to save the crew when those things blow up.. ( Parachutes !!! )
it's my understanding that the crew capsule broke away intact from the orbiter at the moment the main tank exploded. Due to the low altitude and trajectory there would have been insufficient g-forces to cause the crew blackout for the 2 mins or so it took for the crew capsule to hit the sea, so the most likely scenario, and this is confirmed by a former astronaut who is also an MD, is that the crew were alive and concious throughout the accedent and were killed when the capsule hit the sea.
@lexxxa2oo8 And you're exactly right. That was the theory even back in the 80's during the investigation, as i plainly remember. There were even photo's that an arrow pointed out the capsule, which was black, and a few videos where NASA themselves pinpointed the capsule being thrust out away from all the debris, i remember being so shocked & upset to learn that. I just couldn't imagine. Surviving the massive explosion, to be killed after. If only there was a parachute or something.
@lexxxa2oo8 From what I've read, it is doubtful that they were conscious when the cabin hit the water there were simply too many ways the cabin could have de-pressurized when it broke away, and they would not have recovered consciousness before the capsule hit the water. Also, don't forget the capsule continued moving on an upward trajectory for another roughly 20,000 feet before it started actually falling. you are correct about the g-forces- it wouldn't even have knocked them out.
✞They did not die in vain. In honor of this mission, was the creation of The Challenger Learning Centers. I can't even imagine how proud Mrs. Mcauliffe would be, considering her pasion for teaching children. R.I.P. Heroes.
Shuttle should have ended after 3 launches after it was realized how unpractical and dangerous it actually was. Re-usability had already been proven. It was promised to cost 50 million a flight and it ended up costing an unbelievable 1.5 Billion p/flight was a huge waist of recourse's. It was also by fare the most dangerous manned rocket ever made and we were lucky to get by with only 14 deaths.
@Avalon400 Quite incorrect- Nasa recovered the smashed remains of Challenger's crew cabin about a month after the accident. All the bodies were still inside, but it is extremely doubtful that they were conscious when the cabin hit the water.
@TIMPANIMAN1 The one thing i've wondered since the morning this accident happened is why it took so long to recover their bodies from the capsule. I realize it was a daunting task, but even in 86 i'd think they would,ve had the equipment to do so in less than a mo. Do you have any insight or opinions on that? I read your comments and they're intelligent comments, unlike some. The things u say are what I also remember, I was 16 and in English class that morning.
@musclecarluvr1 Thanks- It was a combination of things- for one, NASA was very happy to have the public think the astronauts were vaporized instantly in the explosion and never felt a thing. The last thing they wanted was the public comtemplating the doomed astronauts falling to their deaths. Nasa knew shortly after the accident that the cabin had survived apparently intact and had fallen into the water. The took their time about recovering the cabin and most work was done at night.
@TIMPANIMAN1 Disagree: What makes you think nasa wanted them to think they were vaporized. As soon as it quit raining hardware, recovery forces were out there. The crew module was found when they found it. Recovery efforts were done around the clock, not just at night. The bodies were brought to KSC very publicly and sent to Dover very publicly. There is a lot of hardware in the Atlantic.
@amgen52 Mostly because they did do the majority of the recovery (rather, they worked through the day, but came back into port only at night) of the crew cabin at night, they deleted all references to the crew or their fate, or their remains from the Rogers Commission report, they knew almost immediately after the accident that the cabin had survived intact, but were very reluctant to release the photos they had that showed the cabin falling, and didn't for quite some time afterward.
@TIMPANIMAN1 A lot of it has to do with privacy issues etc. They cover up car accidents the same way. Nasa is one of the most open govt. agency's out there.
@amgen52 Yeah, but they were very reluctant to discuss what had happened to the crew and the cabin, it's a fact. They were forced by an injunction to release the few pictures they ever released of the crew cabin debris, including the picture we've all seen of the 586 bulkhead.
@amgen5 Not saying they were bad people mind you- they just didn't know how to handle this very well Bob Overmyer wrote and was quoted pretty extensively regarding this before the accident that took his life. Note the huge differences between the Challenger and Columbia investigations (of course, the topography played a big role in this).
@TIMPANIMAN1 Also the technology had a lot to do with it. I was involved in both accidents and investigations and the tools we had for Columbia were very diff. for what we had for Challenger.
@musclecarluvr1 See the story of the USS Preserver and also NBC Correspondent Jay Barbree's reports on Challenger- "An Eternity of Descent" and "Raising Heroes From the Sea".
In my opinion, if NASA does get a new shuttle or a shuttle program any time in the future, the first shuttle they get should be called challenger and have all the astronauts names who died on that flight underneith where the shuttle's name is placed by the cockpit and saying something like "we will never forget" or along those lines. Same goes for Columbia or visa versa. R.I.P. STS-51-L
@yz125gopro because u idiot, they are going beyond our knowledge to discover new worlds and things we never knew. Its not about comparing it to any other death
@ColonelCornMuffin I'm sorry but they certainly weren't conscious for more then 1-3 seconds after the shuttle broke up, which was concluded by a final NASA report on their sad fates...the high altitude of which they were at, and the speed they were traveling plus the explosion itself limited life expectancy. The cockpit itself was hardy intact, but even them, life support was clearly not working & the force of them getting thrown about, plus loss of oxygen & pressure...
@ColonelCornMuffin Simple dollar rubber O-ring, not designed for cold, allowed solid fuel to burn right through external fuel tank, we all now know end result. Said solid fuel engines passed by my house 100 feet away, had there been an accident, half of Rockingham county NC would have ceased to exist. Hence, explosion?
The burn-through caused the bottom segment of the SRB to twist and separate, impacting the bottom of the main fuel tank, rupturing it. The ignition of the bottom of the fuel tank accelerated the fuel upwards into the oxygen tank at the top, rupturing it too, and the mixing of hydrogen and oxygen created a huge explosion which destroyed the orbiter. Even so, the top of the orbiter was blown free and continued to travel upwards for some distance.
@ColonelCornMuffin They were all alive until they hit the water. I heard about this from a guy from Rockwell-Rocketdyne in L.A in 1986 when I was a kid.
@predatortheme You are very ignorant and should not post such tripe. This is not a Cessna 172 airplane. You can't eject from a vehicle like this at this speed, while in this density of the atmosphere, and survive.
Get a clue.
It was an ACCIDENT. You can always find blame and pin it on someone like all liberals constantly do.
The Shuttle was the most advanced space vehicle EVER built. Thanks to the idiot in the White House, we can't even send astronauts the the ISS now.
@HuskyMaxx You're getting this wrong. I m not talking about an ejection out of the spacecraft. I m talking about parachutes Installed inside the Cockpit. Since the Cockpit seperated from the rest of the shuttle after the explosion. the cockpit then fell into the ocean with all 7 astronauts being alive still. If they had parachutes inside the cockpit. then they could survive the fall. They would drown anyway since the Life support systems only had enough oxygen to last 3-4 minutes
@ilovedogs4780 Bush retired the shuttles in "The Vision For Space Exploration" in Jan 2004, it just continued until the end of the construction of the space station (ISS) as planned, into Obama's time in the white house.
@cube252002 Oh, I thought Obama shut it down. I am Canadian so I dont know all that much about what the presidents do. I thought I heard something on the the news during Endeavour's final launch that they going to be relying on the Russians for the next five years to get to the ISS, what happens after that? And I have a question I have wondered for a while, are all the old space programs like skylab 3 and stuff still out in space and just not used?
@ilovedogs4780 The shuttle program did end during Obama's time in office, but it was decided in Bush's time in office. I am Canadian too BTW. Yes, the US will be relying on the Russian Soyuz to get to the ISS, as far as skylab, it re-entered the atmosphere some time ago, the orbits of spacecraft decay over time if they are not maintained, and eventually re-enter the atmosphere where they mostly burn up on re-entry.
@HuskyMaxx I assume you mean Bush? He was in fact the one to cancel the shuttle program, it only came to bare in Obama's time in office. Bush anounced "The Vision for Space Exploration" in January 2004 after the Columbia disaster, the "Vision" included the retirement of the shuttle program.
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It is in the first minute of the video, so not to much trouble to check the facts.
@clev9980 Not true. I worked on the shuttle and was in a group who were monitoring the downlink.
The pilots were alive until impact - they used most of their emergency oxygen (which had to be turned on by the FEs sitting behind them - thus, they survived the blast as well).
But the bottom floor of the shuttle was crushed by the explosion. The upper floor occupants (4) survived for what must have been a terrifying few minutes...
@HuskyMaxx They didn't have emergency oxygen, they had regular air in canisters which were for a pad emergency (PEAPS) and were not pressurized- All of the PEAPS were not recovered, and, if I'm not mistaken, only one of them showed signs of having been depleted, the one belonging to pilot Mike Smith. The PEAPS by themselves would not have kept them conscious. The mid-deck of the orbiter was not crushed by the explosion, I don't know where you get that from.
Was this a space shuttle to god? If it was then FUCK NASA AND THEIR Rockets. Nobody and I mean NOBODY must see god. The only one who got to god was the prophet Mohammad and he did not even see he their was a huge cloth in the middle so the prophet can't see god. Plus god is in the seventh sky.(I'm Muslim) and space is only half of the first sky. So why the people died that's what god shows that you cant to me
@ps3playermw2 Since Gods are figments deluded imaginations then by going into space there's nothing to see other than stars and planets (and maybe the odd ufo).
Don't call me a ufo nutter btw, working on the principle that there must be an almost infinite number of stars, assuming even 1/ 1millionth of them have planets, and of them 1/1 millionth could possibly be habitable, then the chances of us being the only living organic sentient beings in the universe has got to be astronomical.
@ps3playermw2 u don't believe that ur god is floating in space do u...seriously? Because they is what u just said. This flight clearly had nothing to do with religion, it was for science 110%. It is people like u that give ur religion a bad name, be ashamed, troll. Crazy man...just weird in a bad way, very bad
I remember watching it on TV live. It was a big deal because it was suppose to be the first teacher in space. After it happened, there were a lot of distasteful jokes about the teacher pushing the wrong button, etc. I was friends with Cmdr. Dick Scobee. There is dome rumor that the astronauts survived the explosion and were drowned.
and this is why we dont shoot radio active waste into space. Millions wouldve harmed if this would happen with some megatons of radioactive materials onboard
@MrRastaWayne excuse me but if their bodies were polverised in the air then why were people carring coffins at their funeral....were they able to retrive body parts?
@RobertsDigital well i never did said this actually, anyway, there many empty coffins just for symbolic measures. My grandpa was killed in a mine when it collapsed, his corpse was never found, but there still was a coffin at the funeral
@RobertsDigital the entire crew cabin fell and hit the water intact. The debris broke up and fell into an oval on the sea floor. The astronauts bodies had been in the water more than a month by then, but all the bodies and parts were recovered in the cabin wreckage, except for that of Greg Jarvis, who had been on the mid-deck, and took a few extra days to recover.
yes it is a very sad moment in our history but a joke is a joke and people that cant handle a joke are generally very lonely bitter people. And here comes a flood of lonely bitter people to yell at me now.
@NARWHALSo101 yea but still in hindsight, it was rather distasteful so I should apologize. I cant help but think of the faces of the parents watching it, and it makes me sad.
@888888username I haven't but do you know why? My answer may surprise you. They've never flown because Sergei Korolev died too early and he didn't finish the N1 rocket project. He was as Werner von Braun on the american side but one step ahead. The americans planned to go to Venus or Mars if the Soviets first landed on the Moon. For me it would be more interesting. Unfortunately, the space race ended with the american landing on the Moon.
@888888username God, you're talking as an american redneck who thinks that all the best things are american. Unlike you, I'm an enthusiast of the space science and technologies regardless of a country or nation. You can say that the Tupolev Tu-144 was a poor copy of the Concorde. I agree, but Buran was definetly better design than US Space Shuttle. I mean design, not succesful project. Unfortunately, Soviet Union had collapsed before it was finished. I advise you to read more about it all.
You can't tust the face of God anywere if God wont allowed that, but if you are a New Born in Christ (in Jesus Christ) you can if God allowed that in your sleeo or in your mind or in your pray were you full filled with Holy Spirit or not! You can see Him, only His Son you can see, if God allowed that! And like I said we might never see and maybe not feel and touch Heavenly Father but Jesus we can in Heaven at least! In face of Jesus you can see the Heavenly Fathers face and His love and warm : )
In your mind over here in the earth or at least in Heaven you can see the almighty God Jesus Himself/Itself for real, but maybe here too! Just believe in Him, in Jesus! Just do what He says and babtist with water were you 5 years old or older and any person in this world and you will be a New Born like I am (going to the Heaven)! : ) When we celebrate and glorify our God, Jesus and/or Heavenly Father and/or Holy Spirit and/or pray we can see miracles in our lives and feel His presence etc! : )
You can't see Heavenly Father, but Jesus in the Heaven, if you have give your life to Him or will do that, do it before you die! Jesus has saved me and loves you very much and as much than me and everyone else in this planet and want save every people in here in this world! But you should rebent, putting away your sins and Jesus will help you on that and ask forgiveness from Him and ask Him to come in your hart and He will come and be there for ever! : ) Because Jesus is the Only Way to Heaven!
You can see at least His Only Son Jesus (Christ of Naxsreth), the Lord, not the Lord of Sebaot which might be the Heavenly Father, becaue He is also the Lord and Almighty God like His Son Jesus is! Holy Spirit is Almighty God too, but not the Lord! And they are one God and three Gods at the same time! Do you understand!? Meen either, or maybe some one understand!
Yes I have Holy Spirit in me, that I am truly a New Born human, but I don't understand everything, many things about God!
If you or me or anyone could see Heavenly Father even if being a Child of God like I am and you can be too, if not already be, we might be killed by God, becaue that what He say in the Bible! That if He allowed to anyone to see His face would die instantly, becaue He is Holy, but we are not! But I am Holy now in His Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth so maybe I can see Him and many others, real Christians and Believers like I am can see His face when in Heaven! Or we see His face in Jesus!
Juri Gagarin say that God don't exist becaue he didn't see Him in the space!, something like this And off course Ortodics preasts were mad about this!
God exists did we see His (Only) Son Jesus or not! Because His Son Jesus (not just jesus the Devil, the false jesus and false christ, the Anti Christ, the Satan and so on) but Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the real and only Jesus, the Lord and coming as Lord of Lords and King of Kings!
Ask from spirit were that God's or Satan's, that who Jesus!?
1.) Your statements only further prove my argument that organized religion slowly diminishes the IQ of members, and unfortunately, in your case, drives them to the point of being hopelessly mentally challenged.
2.) Yuri (how his name is properly spelled) Gagarin held a deep love for his country. The USSR, being a communist state, naturally suppressed all religion. Also, the statement "I see no God up here" is 1.) True and 2.) Even former Soviets involved in the space program...
[continued from previous]...are not sure if Gagarin ever made any such statement. The quote most likely comes from Nikita Khrushchev's speech, usually as: "Gagarin flew into space, but he didn't see god there."
3.) I sincerely hope that whatever sick, twisted, horrific religion you are a member of sees sudden and rapid disintegration. Filthy Christian cunt.
we will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for the journey and waved goodbye and 'slipped the surly bonds of earth' to 'touch the face of god
im born and raised orlando fl just minutes away from the cape i was there just 4 years old my brother was 10 i remember they sent all the children home from school that day my mother was crying
@WHITECHILD2 you : ) Jesus want to help you and your relatives and your hole family, everybody, becaue He loves us every people in this planet and those who has die and those who has even yet born! He saved me, making me a new person and want to change you better person and man and forgive all of your mistakes and sin and heal you from inside and outside too! I am broken inside and I have physical problems but Jesus at least heal me from inside but might do that for outside too : )
Actually, the song that was written and sung by the late John Denver was "Flying for Me." He dedicated that song in memory of the crew of the Space Shuttle Challenger in 1986.
so when the sailors of old went out and were lost did they get this ? when a ship of 100 went down and all souls lost did they get this ? yet if it wasnt for them what Europeans would be in america...its sad yes but like all things of human exploration it comes at a cost .. which now is been lost ... why does nasa hold us back ? when there has been already great sacrifices of life to get to where we are.. to stop manned flights to turn our backs on space is to say they died for nothing
I understand that the late John Denver sung a song dedicated to the Challenger crew in 1986. We're wonder what was the title of the song that John Denver singed?
@themeekgurl not trying to be grousome but I think I heard that some of them actually jumped, or dropped into the ocean because they were found a long ways away from the site.
@ashton000webadmin Wow, you have your facts all wrong. They were all still strapped in their seats when the recovery crew found the crew cabin in the ocean.
@GooglFascists It was actually inconclusive. Evidence shows they survived the explosion but most likely lost consciousness after the cabin became decompressed from the break up of the shuttle. They were probably unconscious when they fell something like 64,000ft for around 2.5 minutes, hitting the ocean at 200 mph.
this is the saddest video on you tube, i'm italian an i see USA like the most powerful Country in the world but sometimes it isn't enough, this video proves it...
may we not forget these explorers, we know now why zero temps on launch etc etc they died so many more will live now. god bless them all
mooster3000 1 week ago
exploshoin dad ass
jack1515101 3 weeks ago
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What a total waste of money. Shut NASA down and quit wasting our tax payer dollars. How about spending money on feeding the poor.
nervousordo 3 weeks ago
@nervousordo A lot of people are quick to say this, but when Earth is threatened, they expect NASA to show up and fill in details, from tracking objects headed for earth, or providing precise details when a hurricane or other weather disaster is approaching, they do contribute necessary information. We could do away with NASA and never know if something is headed towards us, not have things that run off satellites like GPS. There is plenty of tax money going wasted, but not to NASA
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@nervousordo Compared to all the other gross and horrific spending done by governments, NASA and it's compatriots like JPL and SETI are noble scientific endeavors the help us understand the universe. HOW IT WORKS, man. Which can, in fact, prevent the poor and starving from even existing. The Earth is a planet that is becoming smaller every day, and if we don't find a way to colonize our solar system, the human race will die out here. Never knowing the answers to the questions it asks.
OpenMawProductions 2 weeks ago
dead dead dead
plotchickens 3 weeks ago
Uncle Ron!!!
Thopter 3 weeks ago
They gave their lives for science, exploration and a better quality of life for all Humanity, that was their duty even though they never knew, now our duty to them is to make space voyages safer and more practical. They died so we know how difficult and dangerous is to try to get to space and we can have a better chance to it; let's not forget that, ever.
saultube44 1 month ago
@saultube44 Please explain to me how Nasa helps humanity for a better life?!! its an american enterprise and all that it cares is american interests, the same goes with russians etc, i should better remind you that the majority of people around the planet are poor, do not have access to water and food, but american companies have factories all around the world and have kids working all day for nothing, and of course never forget the troops in Iraq and around the world, i despise your ignorance!!
1Heretic 1 month ago
@1Heretic I know all that that's why I participate in WorldCommunityGrid[.]Org "genius", and they do it for science to explore and give the information free over the Internet, NASA is part of the International Space Station, so is not just USA interests, pessimistic blind dumbass.
saultube44 1 month ago
@saultube44 You obviously have severe brain damage so its no point to argue with you any more because you are unable to get my point, live in your bubble and enjoy your ignorance until it lasts, i hope you never wake up from your sleep, i m sure is the worst that can happen to you
1Heretic 1 month ago
"Major malfunction" ???!!!! Men the whole space shuttle just blow off. Sometimes is beter to not say a word.
JaroSubaru82 1 month ago
LMFAO, i can just imagine the faces on the one student that really hates her when they realized what happened
ledfarmer100 1 month ago
@ledfarmer100 Fuking idiot
saultube44 1 month ago
im so srry for them
kpimentel99 1 month ago
Cause of the accident: ARROGANCE (words of a NASA astronaut, Discovery Channel's "When We Left Earth")
julionica 1 month ago
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Heres one for ya. They think they found a piece of the black Astronaut, then they discovered is was chunk of radiator hose. Why was Christa's eyes blue. One blew this way, and one blew that way. Ya iv heard them. Amazing, no columbia jokes.
maxquad21 1 month ago
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What was Christa McAuliffe's last words in the shuttle?
"What does this button do?"
What were her last words to her husband?
"don't forget to feed the dogs and cat, I will take care of the fish."
Bedgie01 1 month ago
LOL
silverballer1911 1 month ago
@888888username The N1 was a joke- it never worked, and you are absolutely correct about your last statement- they never even got close.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@888888username Buran didn't even have engines. Geez.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
The "oxygen" tanks the astronauts carried didn't contain actual oxygen, and were not pressurized they were for use if the astronauts had to evacuate the suttle while on the launch pad. See PEAPS (personal egress air pack). The PEAP that was found to have been activated belonged to pilot Mike Smith, and would have been activated by MS Resnik, since it was mounted on the back of his seat frame. Cdr Scobees PEAP was also recovered and had not been activated.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 Its interesting that if you google PEAPS (and then wikipedia) they have a photo of the cooling units used to transport the crew to the pad. Those are not PEAPS. The actual PEAPS are much smaller and like you said, mount to the seats.
amgen52 1 month ago
@amgen52 Right, the PEAPs for Cdr Scobee and pilot Smith were on the backs of their seat frames, while the PEAPS for mission specialists Resnik and Onizuka were mounted to the flight deck floor beside their seats. It is interesting that Mike Smith's recovered PEAP showed it had been activated and somewhat depleted, but Cdr Scobees was not activated at all. That leads me to believe that they began the process of trying to save themselves but lost consciousness quickly.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 The mission specialist PEAPS are mounted on the sides of their seats and the CDR/PLT on the back as you said. There was no room to mount them on the sides. Thats why seat 3/4 MS's had to turn the PLT/CDR's on. I installed them for flight.
amgen52 1 month ago
@amgen52 Right. I always thought it was interesting that Scobees was not activated, but Smith's was. I'm reasonably sure their emergency check list would have has MS Resnik turn on Smith's PEAP first, but she apparently never got to Scobees.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 No, the CDR flies the ship. He is first. It was not determined during the investigation wether the PEAPS were actually turned on by the crew or if blunt force triggered them on despite breathing air being evacuated from the bottles.
amgen52 1 month ago
@amgen52 Yeah, that's true, they presumed MS Resnik may have activated the one PEAP, as was procedure, but they never could say for sure, could they? You know your stuff about this, I'm impressed, as I consider myself to be relatively informed on all things Challenger. My dad knew Greg Jarvis professionally, had met him once or twice. I was pretty sure that under flight conditions, the pilots PEAP would have been activated first, but you sound like you know what you're talking about. Nice chat!
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 Resnik sat in seat 4 which is the flt. eng. position. Her job would be to turn on both PEAPS. It was never determined if she did.Remember, the pilot in command is the CDR in the left seat. He does launch,aborts, landings etc. The pilot (right seat) flies mostly on orbit and gets about 10 sec. of landing approach.
amgen52 1 month ago
@amgen52 Oh, OK, thanks for clarifying that. I always thought it was interesting that in the pre-launch CVR tapes, Cdr. Scobee is heard to say that he isn't going to lock his harness restraint- I think he said in case he had to reach something. I always wondered if the fact that he apparently didn''t have his harness locked had any bearing on the PEAP issue- I don't see how it could, but it always struck me as a little odd. Ever hear anything in that regard?
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 They are locked in their seats before the hatch closes. It normal and mandatory. There are too many things attached to them to be able to move anywhere. Like O2, comm and flight data files. If you get out of your seat with all the ground support platforms removed, you fall 5 ft. Everything related to launch is reachable from the CDR/ PLT seats. They cant reach their PEAPS at all.
amgen52 1 month ago
@amgen52 I would have thought so as well- in the CVR transcript, Scobee clearly states he isn't locking his harness- They wore 5 point belt locks, right? So he either had his harness locked, or he didn't, right? I wonder what he meant?
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 The 5 harnesses in the unlocked position let you move and reach much like car belts but if you are jolted, they lock. In the locked position, once they are pulled out of the reel and put in the buckle, the reel is locked and there is no movement. There is a lever on the R/H side of the seat that lets them choose. But it does not really make a diff. in the vertical pulling 3 constant g's.
amgen52 1 month ago
@amgen52 Makes sense to me now what Scobee meant.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but human life has a dollar value. If it didn't , there would of been redundant safety measures to save the crew when those things blow up.. ( Parachutes !!! )
cliff0495 1 month ago
it's my understanding that the crew capsule broke away intact from the orbiter at the moment the main tank exploded. Due to the low altitude and trajectory there would have been insufficient g-forces to cause the crew blackout for the 2 mins or so it took for the crew capsule to hit the sea, so the most likely scenario, and this is confirmed by a former astronaut who is also an MD, is that the crew were alive and concious throughout the accedent and were killed when the capsule hit the sea.
lexxxa2oo8 1 month ago
@lexxxa2oo8 And you're exactly right. That was the theory even back in the 80's during the investigation, as i plainly remember. There were even photo's that an arrow pointed out the capsule, which was black, and a few videos where NASA themselves pinpointed the capsule being thrust out away from all the debris, i remember being so shocked & upset to learn that. I just couldn't imagine. Surviving the massive explosion, to be killed after. If only there was a parachute or something.
musclecarluvr1 1 month ago
@lexxxa2oo8 From what I've read, it is doubtful that they were conscious when the cabin hit the water there were simply too many ways the cabin could have de-pressurized when it broke away, and they would not have recovered consciousness before the capsule hit the water. Also, don't forget the capsule continued moving on an upward trajectory for another roughly 20,000 feet before it started actually falling. you are correct about the g-forces- it wouldn't even have knocked them out.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
Omg I feel so horrible right now :((
SirRosco 1 month ago
✞They did not die in vain. In honor of this mission, was the creation of The Challenger Learning Centers. I can't even imagine how proud Mrs. Mcauliffe would be, considering her pasion for teaching children. R.I.P. Heroes.
musclecarluvr1 2 months ago 16
Shuttle should have ended after 3 launches after it was realized how unpractical and dangerous it actually was. Re-usability had already been proven. It was promised to cost 50 million a flight and it ended up costing an unbelievable 1.5 Billion p/flight was a huge waist of recourse's. It was also by fare the most dangerous manned rocket ever made and we were lucky to get by with only 14 deaths.
ti994apc 2 months ago
I M sure there were no bodies to bury.
Avalon400 2 months ago
@Avalon400 Quite incorrect- Nasa recovered the smashed remains of Challenger's crew cabin about a month after the accident. All the bodies were still inside, but it is extremely doubtful that they were conscious when the cabin hit the water.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 The one thing i've wondered since the morning this accident happened is why it took so long to recover their bodies from the capsule. I realize it was a daunting task, but even in 86 i'd think they would,ve had the equipment to do so in less than a mo. Do you have any insight or opinions on that? I read your comments and they're intelligent comments, unlike some. The things u say are what I also remember, I was 16 and in English class that morning.
musclecarluvr1 1 month ago
@musclecarluvr1 Thanks- It was a combination of things- for one, NASA was very happy to have the public think the astronauts were vaporized instantly in the explosion and never felt a thing. The last thing they wanted was the public comtemplating the doomed astronauts falling to their deaths. Nasa knew shortly after the accident that the cabin had survived apparently intact and had fallen into the water. The took their time about recovering the cabin and most work was done at night.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 Disagree: What makes you think nasa wanted them to think they were vaporized. As soon as it quit raining hardware, recovery forces were out there. The crew module was found when they found it. Recovery efforts were done around the clock, not just at night. The bodies were brought to KSC very publicly and sent to Dover very publicly. There is a lot of hardware in the Atlantic.
amgen52 1 month ago
@amgen52 Mostly because they did do the majority of the recovery (rather, they worked through the day, but came back into port only at night) of the crew cabin at night, they deleted all references to the crew or their fate, or their remains from the Rogers Commission report, they knew almost immediately after the accident that the cabin had survived intact, but were very reluctant to release the photos they had that showed the cabin falling, and didn't for quite some time afterward.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 A lot of it has to do with privacy issues etc. They cover up car accidents the same way. Nasa is one of the most open govt. agency's out there.
amgen52 1 month ago
@amgen52 Yeah, but they were very reluctant to discuss what had happened to the crew and the cabin, it's a fact. They were forced by an injunction to release the few pictures they ever released of the crew cabin debris, including the picture we've all seen of the 586 bulkhead.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@amgen5 Not saying they were bad people mind you- they just didn't know how to handle this very well Bob Overmyer wrote and was quoted pretty extensively regarding this before the accident that took his life. Note the huge differences between the Challenger and Columbia investigations (of course, the topography played a big role in this).
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@TIMPANIMAN1 Also the technology had a lot to do with it. I was involved in both accidents and investigations and the tools we had for Columbia were very diff. for what we had for Challenger.
amgen52 1 month ago
@amgen52 Very true.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@musclecarluvr1 See the story of the USS Preserver and also NBC Correspondent Jay Barbree's reports on Challenger- "An Eternity of Descent" and "Raising Heroes From the Sea".
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
In my opinion, if NASA does get a new shuttle or a shuttle program any time in the future, the first shuttle they get should be called challenger and have all the astronauts names who died on that flight underneith where the shuttle's name is placed by the cockpit and saying something like "we will never forget" or along those lines. Same goes for Columbia or visa versa. R.I.P. STS-51-L
ilovedogs4780 2 months ago
IM NOT BEING MEAN i just dont undersatnd what the big deal is about this alot of people die in worst disaters than this why publicize this?
yz125gopro 2 months ago
@yz125gopro because u idiot, they are going beyond our knowledge to discover new worlds and things we never knew. Its not about comparing it to any other death
AllThingsKen 2 months ago
All bodies we recovered and buried. The cockpit was intact on the sea floor.
MRVEGAS711 3 months ago
@MRVEGAS711 your response seems more likely
RobertsDigital 3 months ago
@MRVEGAS711 I know, it's terrible, its said that some were conscious and they fell to their deaths.
ColonelCornMuffin 2 months ago
@ColonelCornMuffin I'm sorry but they certainly weren't conscious for more then 1-3 seconds after the shuttle broke up, which was concluded by a final NASA report on their sad fates...the high altitude of which they were at, and the speed they were traveling plus the explosion itself limited life expectancy. The cockpit itself was hardy intact, but even them, life support was clearly not working & the force of them getting thrown about, plus loss of oxygen & pressure...
YukioSnowoBloom 2 months ago
@YukioSnowoBloom Youre probably right. Sad thing is we will never TRUELY know. I think youre right though. Terrifying, terrible event.
ColonelCornMuffin 2 months ago
@YukioSnowoBloom And another thing, why did it explode?
ColonelCornMuffin 2 months ago
@ColonelCornMuffin Because hydrogen, oxygen, and open flame don't play well with each other.
PeteAA8GK 2 months ago
@ColonelCornMuffin Simple dollar rubber O-ring, not designed for cold, allowed solid fuel to burn right through external fuel tank, we all now know end result. Said solid fuel engines passed by my house 100 feet away, had there been an accident, half of Rockingham county NC would have ceased to exist. Hence, explosion?
superunt43 2 months ago
@superunt43 Thanks
ColonelCornMuffin 2 months ago
@superunt43 12ft diameter o-rings.
amgen52 2 months ago
@ColonelCornMuffin
The burn-through caused the bottom segment of the SRB to twist and separate, impacting the bottom of the main fuel tank, rupturing it. The ignition of the bottom of the fuel tank accelerated the fuel upwards into the oxygen tank at the top, rupturing it too, and the mixing of hydrogen and oxygen created a huge explosion which destroyed the orbiter. Even so, the top of the orbiter was blown free and continued to travel upwards for some distance.
rickcain2320 2 months ago
@ColonelCornMuffin They were all alive until they hit the water. I heard about this from a guy from Rockwell-Rocketdyne in L.A in 1986 when I was a kid.
clev9980 2 months ago
@clev9980 in documentations they said it aswell. its true. if the nasa just spend money on cockpit chutes...
predatortheme 2 months ago
@predatortheme You are very ignorant and should not post such tripe. This is not a Cessna 172 airplane. You can't eject from a vehicle like this at this speed, while in this density of the atmosphere, and survive.
Get a clue.
It was an ACCIDENT. You can always find blame and pin it on someone like all liberals constantly do.
The Shuttle was the most advanced space vehicle EVER built. Thanks to the idiot in the White House, we can't even send astronauts the the ISS now.
HuskyMaxx 2 months ago 2
@HuskyMaxx You're getting this wrong. I m not talking about an ejection out of the spacecraft. I m talking about parachutes Installed inside the Cockpit. Since the Cockpit seperated from the rest of the shuttle after the explosion. the cockpit then fell into the ocean with all 7 astronauts being alive still. If they had parachutes inside the cockpit. then they could survive the fall. They would drown anyway since the Life support systems only had enough oxygen to last 3-4 minutes
predatortheme 2 months ago
@HuskyMaxx That is so true, at least Bush had the shuttles going instead of relying on the Russians all the time.
ilovedogs4780 2 months ago
@ilovedogs4780 Bush retired the shuttles in "The Vision For Space Exploration" in Jan 2004, it just continued until the end of the construction of the space station (ISS) as planned, into Obama's time in the white house.
cube252002 2 months ago
@cube252002 Oh, I thought Obama shut it down. I am Canadian so I dont know all that much about what the presidents do. I thought I heard something on the the news during Endeavour's final launch that they going to be relying on the Russians for the next five years to get to the ISS, what happens after that? And I have a question I have wondered for a while, are all the old space programs like skylab 3 and stuff still out in space and just not used?
ilovedogs4780 2 months ago
@ilovedogs4780 The shuttle program did end during Obama's time in office, but it was decided in Bush's time in office. I am Canadian too BTW. Yes, the US will be relying on the Russian Soyuz to get to the ISS, as far as skylab, it re-entered the atmosphere some time ago, the orbits of spacecraft decay over time if they are not maintained, and eventually re-enter the atmosphere where they mostly burn up on re-entry.
cube252002 2 months ago
@cube252002 Thats pretty cool, I like the skylab program better than the ISS.
ilovedogs4780 2 months ago
@HuskyMaxx I assume you mean Bush? He was in fact the one to cancel the shuttle program, it only came to bare in Obama's time in office. Bush anounced "The Vision for Space Exploration" in January 2004 after the Columbia disaster, the "Vision" included the retirement of the shuttle program.
/watch?v=uhxXWtNmLmw&feature=related
It is in the first minute of the video, so not to much trouble to check the facts.
cube252002 2 months ago
@clev9980 Not true. I worked on the shuttle and was in a group who were monitoring the downlink.
The pilots were alive until impact - they used most of their emergency oxygen (which had to be turned on by the FEs sitting behind them - thus, they survived the blast as well).
But the bottom floor of the shuttle was crushed by the explosion. The upper floor occupants (4) survived for what must have been a terrifying few minutes...
HuskyMaxx 2 months ago
@HuskyMaxx Are you saying you were monitoring the downlink of the pilots talking until they hit the water?
amgen52 2 months ago
@HuskyMaxx They didn't have emergency oxygen, they had regular air in canisters which were for a pad emergency (PEAPS) and were not pressurized- All of the PEAPS were not recovered, and, if I'm not mistaken, only one of them showed signs of having been depleted, the one belonging to pilot Mike Smith. The PEAPS by themselves would not have kept them conscious. The mid-deck of the orbiter was not crushed by the explosion, I don't know where you get that from.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
@HuskyMaxx Also, once the crew cabin separated from the orbiter, there would have been no more "downlink". All telemetry was lost at that moment.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago
Was this a space shuttle to god? If it was then FUCK NASA AND THEIR Rockets. Nobody and I mean NOBODY must see god. The only one who got to god was the prophet Mohammad and he did not even see he their was a huge cloth in the middle so the prophet can't see god. Plus god is in the seventh sky.(I'm Muslim) and space is only half of the first sky. So why the people died that's what god shows that you cant to me
ps3playermw2 3 months ago
@ps3playermw2 Your fucking out of touch with reality.
hunterhalo2 3 months ago 2
@ps3playermw2 Since Gods are figments deluded imaginations then by going into space there's nothing to see other than stars and planets (and maybe the odd ufo).
Don't call me a ufo nutter btw, working on the principle that there must be an almost infinite number of stars, assuming even 1/ 1millionth of them have planets, and of them 1/1 millionth could possibly be habitable, then the chances of us being the only living organic sentient beings in the universe has got to be astronomical.
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AnticsRocket 2 months ago
@ps3playermw2 u don't believe that ur god is floating in space do u...seriously? Because they is what u just said. This flight clearly had nothing to do with religion, it was for science 110%. It is people like u that give ur religion a bad name, be ashamed, troll. Crazy man...just weird in a bad way, very bad
YukioSnowoBloom 2 months ago
I remember watching it on TV live. It was a big deal because it was suppose to be the first teacher in space. After it happened, there were a lot of distasteful jokes about the teacher pushing the wrong button, etc. I was friends with Cmdr. Dick Scobee. There is dome rumor that the astronauts survived the explosion and were drowned.
BlueAeroCinnamon 3 months ago
and this is why we dont shoot radio active waste into space. Millions wouldve harmed if this would happen with some megatons of radioactive materials onboard
MrRastaWayne 3 months ago
@MrRastaWayne excuse me but if their bodies were polverised in the air then why were people carring coffins at their funeral....were they able to retrive body parts?
RobertsDigital 3 months ago
@RobertsDigital well i never did said this actually, anyway, there many empty coffins just for symbolic measures. My grandpa was killed in a mine when it collapsed, his corpse was never found, but there still was a coffin at the funeral
MrRastaWayne 3 months ago
@MrRastaWayne no offence but did they bury the coffin with nobody in it?
RobertsDigital 3 months ago
@RobertsDigital yes they did , in , how i said, symbolic purpose
MrRastaWayne 3 months ago
@RobertsDigital the entire crew cabin fell and hit the water intact. The debris broke up and fell into an oval on the sea floor. The astronauts bodies had been in the water more than a month by then, but all the bodies and parts were recovered in the cabin wreckage, except for that of Greg Jarvis, who had been on the mid-deck, and took a few extra days to recover.
TIMPANIMAN1 1 month ago 6
thanks to the people who made a wonderful debate. I loved reading the argument of the previous comments :)
heywatchme101 3 months ago
yes it is a very sad moment in our history but a joke is a joke and people that cant handle a joke are generally very lonely bitter people. And here comes a flood of lonely bitter people to yell at me now.
mBenderman 3 months ago
This is what happens when women are allowed to pilot a spacecraft.
GildySanders 3 months ago
@GildySanders ur a fucking dick thats gonna die alone. unless ur gay. which u probably are
NARWHALSo101 3 months ago
@NARWHALSo101 yea that was probably not a very funny joke at all. I am sorry.
GildySanders 3 months ago
@GildySanders o ok it was a joke. i thought u were being serious. nvm.
NARWHALSo101 3 months ago
@NARWHALSo101 yea but still in hindsight, it was rather distasteful so I should apologize. I cant help but think of the faces of the parents watching it, and it makes me sad.
GildySanders 3 months ago
@GildySanders eh dont worry about it.
NARWHALSo101 3 months ago
Угробили людей и кучу денег налогоплательщиков
Yurielkafa 4 months ago
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lolshtoo 3 months ago
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@Yurielkafa
ussr also lost two soyuz with people and a lot of money. No need to speak in this tone
lolshtoo 3 months ago
fucking comments is now a fucking debate
FUCK ALL OF U WHO ABUSE THE COMMENTS SECTION AND USE IT AS A FORUM
come and reply me with your fucking essay fucking comment nazis
heywatchme101 4 months ago
@heywatchme101 take it easy fag
Frankeinstein127 3 months ago
@888888username I haven't but do you know why? My answer may surprise you. They've never flown because Sergei Korolev died too early and he didn't finish the N1 rocket project. He was as Werner von Braun on the american side but one step ahead. The americans planned to go to Venus or Mars if the Soviets first landed on the Moon. For me it would be more interesting. Unfortunately, the space race ended with the american landing on the Moon.
bircov 4 months ago
@888888username God, you're talking as an american redneck who thinks that all the best things are american. Unlike you, I'm an enthusiast of the space science and technologies regardless of a country or nation. You can say that the Tupolev Tu-144 was a poor copy of the Concorde. I agree, but Buran was definetly better design than US Space Shuttle. I mean design, not succesful project. Unfortunately, Soviet Union had collapsed before it was finished. I advise you to read more about it all.
bircov 4 months ago
Holy shit, did anyone see WHITECHILD2's comments? More grammar and spelling mistakes than an inner-city school district.
OneManFlashMob 4 months ago
@OneManFlashMob lmao i read 2 sentences and i can already tell XD
WarLord12321 4 months ago
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You can't tust the face of God anywere if God wont allowed that, but if you are a New Born in Christ (in Jesus Christ) you can if God allowed that in your sleeo or in your mind or in your pray were you full filled with Holy Spirit or not! You can see Him, only His Son you can see, if God allowed that! And like I said we might never see and maybe not feel and touch Heavenly Father but Jesus we can in Heaven at least! In face of Jesus you can see the Heavenly Fathers face and His love and warm : )
WHITECHILD2 4 months ago
In your mind over here in the earth or at least in Heaven you can see the almighty God Jesus Himself/Itself for real, but maybe here too! Just believe in Him, in Jesus! Just do what He says and babtist with water were you 5 years old or older and any person in this world and you will be a New Born like I am (going to the Heaven)! : ) When we celebrate and glorify our God, Jesus and/or Heavenly Father and/or Holy Spirit and/or pray we can see miracles in our lives and feel His presence etc! : )
WHITECHILD2 4 months ago
You can't see Heavenly Father, but Jesus in the Heaven, if you have give your life to Him or will do that, do it before you die! Jesus has saved me and loves you very much and as much than me and everyone else in this planet and want save every people in here in this world! But you should rebent, putting away your sins and Jesus will help you on that and ask forgiveness from Him and ask Him to come in your hart and He will come and be there for ever! : ) Because Jesus is the Only Way to Heaven!
WHITECHILD2 4 months ago
You can see at least His Only Son Jesus (Christ of Naxsreth), the Lord, not the Lord of Sebaot which might be the Heavenly Father, becaue He is also the Lord and Almighty God like His Son Jesus is! Holy Spirit is Almighty God too, but not the Lord! And they are one God and three Gods at the same time! Do you understand!? Meen either, or maybe some one understand!
Yes I have Holy Spirit in me, that I am truly a New Born human, but I don't understand everything, many things about God!
WHITECHILD2 4 months ago
If you or me or anyone could see Heavenly Father even if being a Child of God like I am and you can be too, if not already be, we might be killed by God, becaue that what He say in the Bible! That if He allowed to anyone to see His face would die instantly, becaue He is Holy, but we are not! But I am Holy now in His Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth so maybe I can see Him and many others, real Christians and Believers like I am can see His face when in Heaven! Or we see His face in Jesus!
WHITECHILD2 4 months ago
Juri Gagarin say that God don't exist becaue he didn't see Him in the space!, something like this And off course Ortodics preasts were mad about this!
God exists did we see His (Only) Son Jesus or not! Because His Son Jesus (not just jesus the Devil, the false jesus and false christ, the Anti Christ, the Satan and so on) but Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the real and only Jesus, the Lord and coming as Lord of Lords and King of Kings!
Ask from spirit were that God's or Satan's, that who Jesus!?
WHITECHILD2 4 months ago
@WHITECHILD2
1.) Your statements only further prove my argument that organized religion slowly diminishes the IQ of members, and unfortunately, in your case, drives them to the point of being hopelessly mentally challenged.
2.) Yuri (how his name is properly spelled) Gagarin held a deep love for his country. The USSR, being a communist state, naturally suppressed all religion. Also, the statement "I see no God up here" is 1.) True and 2.) Even former Soviets involved in the space program...
DunkassProduct1ons 4 months ago
@WHITECHILD2
[continued from previous]...are not sure if Gagarin ever made any such statement. The quote most likely comes from Nikita Khrushchev's speech, usually as: "Gagarin flew into space, but he didn't see god there."
3.) I sincerely hope that whatever sick, twisted, horrific religion you are a member of sees sudden and rapid disintegration. Filthy Christian cunt.
DunkassProduct1ons 4 months ago
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we will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for the journey and waved goodbye and 'slipped the surly bonds of earth' to 'touch the face of god
timothyp873 4 months ago
im born and raised orlando fl just minutes away from the cape i was there just 4 years old my brother was 10 i remember they sent all the children home from school that day my mother was crying
thena06 4 months ago
@thena06 so sad! God bless in Jesus' name! : )
WHITECHILD2 4 months ago
@WHITECHILD2 you : ) Jesus want to help you and your relatives and your hole family, everybody, becaue He loves us every people in this planet and those who has die and those who has even yet born! He saved me, making me a new person and want to change you better person and man and forgive all of your mistakes and sin and heal you from inside and outside too! I am broken inside and I have physical problems but Jesus at least heal me from inside but might do that for outside too : )
WHITECHILD2 4 months ago
:'(
RandoomShizz14 5 months ago
Most of them were alive till they hit the water. If they would have ejection seats, they survived. So, also in this case Buran was beter design.
bircov 5 months ago
Actually, the song that was written and sung by the late John Denver was "Flying for Me." He dedicated that song in memory of the crew of the Space Shuttle Challenger in 1986.
pernelldh 5 months ago
so when the sailors of old went out and were lost did they get this ? when a ship of 100 went down and all souls lost did they get this ? yet if it wasnt for them what Europeans would be in america...its sad yes but like all things of human exploration it comes at a cost .. which now is been lost ... why does nasa hold us back ? when there has been already great sacrifices of life to get to where we are.. to stop manned flights to turn our backs on space is to say they died for nothing
unitakira 5 months ago
I'm curious to know what the opening song in the video is. If anyone knows, please message me. Good video otherwise
Openmindedone87 6 months ago
i wish the challenger was still here today that is sad i cried in the film
mljhnr1 6 months ago
I understand that the late John Denver sung a song dedicated to the Challenger crew in 1986. We're wonder what was the title of the song that John Denver singed?
pernelldh 6 months ago
@pernelldh The title of the song is: "On the Wings of a Dream" and was originally dedicated by Mr. Denver to his late father.
olderanddecrepit 5 months ago
Blue Angels...
MoniWooOOooooOOOOOOW 6 months ago
Ron McNair HIT THAT WHITE BUTTON BESIDE YOU NOW! No Sir that button is white and looks like cotton! I'm not Touch** BOOM^&*
AFewGoodPuppets 6 months ago
what song is this?
cassarNOVA19 6 months ago
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rest in peace the people who tried to give something to every single human in the world.
I was only a young boy, but I still remember that day very well
marswallace1 7 months ago
rest in peace the people who tried to give something to every single human in the world.
I was only a young boy, but I still remember that day very well
marswallace1 7 months ago
@themeekgurl not trying to be grousome but I think I heard that some of them actually jumped, or dropped into the ocean because they were found a long ways away from the site.
ashton000webadmin 8 months ago
@ashton000webadmin Wow, you have your facts all wrong. They were all still strapped in their seats when the recovery crew found the crew cabin in the ocean.
cecile36 7 months ago 2
@cecile36 Yes that's correct. Forensic evidence showed all 7 were alive when they
hit the water. It was NASA's fault they had no "safety eject" with parachutes for the
capsule if epic failure occurred, but after all, like our soldiers in Iraq, they are referred
to as "Cattle" by wealthy elites who run the Military Industrial Complex.
GooglFascists 5 months ago
@GooglFascists It was actually inconclusive. Evidence shows they survived the explosion but most likely lost consciousness after the cabin became decompressed from the break up of the shuttle. They were probably unconscious when they fell something like 64,000ft for around 2.5 minutes, hitting the ocean at 200 mph.
420Guitar420 5 months ago
oh my god what? they're bodies were actually whole enough to be put in a casket?
TheMeekgurl 8 months ago
may god bless them all..RIP
samson74able 8 months ago
forgett the movies and the heros.
that are humans. Who thought they're ready to try this
MrGeorgie95 9 months ago
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CodeGreen47 11 months ago
@CodeGreen47 you go kaboom
MrDomb101 7 months ago
this is the saddest video on you tube, i'm italian an i see USA like the most powerful Country in the world but sometimes it isn't enough, this video proves it...
rockemall93 1 year ago
So sad.
Enatbyte 1 year ago