The universe is so much bigger than just the Earth or the solar system. People saying we shouldn't leave earth cuz we're a disease should sod off with their short sightedness. This is so much bigger than just this insignificant time period of our species..
There is no legitimate argument against the colonization of other worlds in my opinion. If humanity chooses never to leave Earth, we resign ourselves to extinction. Even if we manage to dodge the bullet for the next 5 billion years, the death of the sun will be the end of us if we stay here.
another thing, we should not be invading other planets, look what weve done to our own, to all the animals, civilizations past, we sure do like invading places,and i hope if there is life on any of the planets in space....which i think there is.... that they come down from the heavens,
@Thylovely4you what wrong did we do to our plant? I see no bad things about human influence on Earth... bdw. right now we are even more ecological then any other civ. before us... even so called ,,natural civilizations,,
Our primary objective must be the colonization of as many planets and solar systems as possible. Only this will ensure the survival of our species trough the millenias.
Just imagine what humanity will look like in a thousand years if we continue to advance technologically.
The only problem to space expansion is the same as it was for the roman empire, communication. If we were able to travel to the stars right now, we would only be able to colonize up to 50 light years maybe less. This is because we cannot send communications faster than light so if I was on the farthest colony and want to radio my pal on earth it would take 50 years to reach him. Unless we have a way to send usable date via superluminal communication there is a virtual wall in space expansion.
@SquadFatherEnt What does this matter? If each colony is self-supporting, and their people free, they do not need to communicate- even if they did, there would be no hope for rescue. Their best best would be to wait on a radio from US telling them we've invented hyperwave radio and here's how it works.
@7j8i9m The reason we would have to colonize space is because we are running out of room and resources on earth. We wouldnt let colonies live independently since we would need the planet for what it has for the general human population. Unless the planet revolts against the owning faction...
I have great respect for NASA and admire Carl Sagan, but this is political, emotional propaganda and it makes me sad to see them go down at that level..
I have great respect for NASA and admire Carl Sagan, but this is political, emotional propaganda and it makes me sad to see them go down at that level..
Whoa, 1 in 3000 chance of hitting the earth? Is this Apothas your are talking about? I believe the odds were in the neighborhood of 1 in 60000, and that's ONLY if it passes through the small window when it does a fly by sometime in the net decade.
It seems to me we need to do a great deal more theorizing and practical reviews of the possibility of our planet's population attempting to pursue life in a totally foreign and novel location with it's consideration for vital and "earth-centric" necessities. The video presented opens that door as well as including the best minds to pursue the obstacle-ridden journey. I just hope I'm up for it.
"Bla bla historical Europeans are so naughty for colonizing, bla bla..." To hell with spending on Environmental change, let's colonize, let's do it! This is how we advance ourselves!
@SoldatSolutrea What we need is a one world government to eliminate the massive world miltary spendings and put most of that too science. If we had that the human race might think better and start to work together rather than compete agaist each other. Thats how we survive for now. We cant go colonize to any other planet right now. So we need Environmental change to survive on earth right now. We must focus on turning the distruction of our biosphere too the improvement of our biosphere.
Why would anyone want to live on Mars? It's cold, and the gravity's not right. (And that's not even mentioning the other problems.
Seems smarter to me to just preserve Earth really well and if we're worried about asteroids, figure out how to deflect them. Because even if people DO go live on Mars, there'd still be many people on Earth too. (probably many many more people.)
Then its is quite evident, that your opinion of whats smarter, isn't worth listening to. The universe is a dangerous place. A handful of well placed nukes, could destroy all of civilization. If just one of the many super volcanoes on earth activate, all of humanity will suffocate in a cloud of ash. If the sun gives in, for reasons known, or reasons unexpected, we're dead.
You could go off for hours, listing geological or cosmic events, that we know to have happened in the past, or in other solar systems, that would presently cause the extinction of the human race. But thats just the half of it. Every other month, scientests are awed at a natural phenomon they were previous ignorant of. What if that natural phenomon would spell the end of humanity? Its not enough to colonize mars either; we need to spread as thin as possible.
A super volcanoe could activate next week. Some natural phenomon in a parallel dimension, could rob the sun of its energy,causing it to collapse in on itself, next month. Our galaxy could collide with a different galaxy in ten thousand years. The entire universe could collapse in a million years.
I mean, if you look at some of the stuff in string theory, who knows whats possible. I mean, its pretty commonly accepted, that theres atleast four dimensions, then in string theory, theres anywhere between 11 and an infinite amount depending on the specific theory. That example was more of a lead-in for the post that followed. I suppose putting it in the middle of those examples, without being clear, wasn't the wisest thing, I could of done.
The point is, our existence is fragile. Theres plenty of real phenomon, that we know of, that would spell our extinction. And then theres the phenomon we have never observed, or theorized about, which could cause our extinction. That example was the latter. The rest were the former.
Out of the chaos of the universe, simple life began to take form. Through evolution, we were given life. Consciousness, emotions, memories, culture, art, history, philosophy, science and technology. We stand to lose everything. We are at the mercy of the universe, and all reason compells us to see that mercy is not infinite. With the same confidence that I can say, we aren't alone in the universe, I can also say, somewhere an advanced species is facing its own extinction.
@valstar1000 Are you refering to abortion or war? I hope(unfortunately though)that you are refering to abortion. I agree, he has halted-grounded a lot of missions planed by nasa because of inadequate interest/and funding that he gives to black churches and then wines about how there should be more seperation of church and state. What a double standard a-hole!
THIS is exactly why I strongly believe there is a SECRET space program a least a thousand years ahead of NASA's pathetic "booster rocket racket" bullsh%$.The US ripped a page out of Constantine the Great's (325AD) playbook : Always have a Plan B for Western Civilization. Colonizing is part of Western Civilization, its in our DNA...We are an EXPANSIVE civilization. It is our birth right to move out into the stars.
kinda strange but it is true about the quote from "the matrix" ( and I know what a strange lace to quote from) but humans do behave like parasites. We consume, until we drain the host (planet) then repeat
Great video. It was a very good collection of interviews. I'd really like to see more of the Hadfield interview. I remember seeing it when it first aired and it was excellent.
"Our future is in space" - We are allready in space, one would be ignorant to think differently.
"It would be marsans, not humans, who would inherit..." - I believe it would be more correct to say "It would be marsans, not earthlings.." We are humans regardless of space location.
Other than that, great video. I'm a huge fan of these people, Sagan in particular.
@SigDrums "We are allready in space" Actually, we (humans) haven't been in space since the Moon missions. The shuttle and space station are still under the protection of the Earth's atmosphere (thus not in space).
@SigDrums Ah, perhaps you should have stated that we 'are a PART of the Cosmos'. In that we are, as Sagan would have said, "Star dust, contemplating the Stars'... "Forget about Jesus, the stars died so you could exist", Laurence krauss. Oh, about the 'drums' in your name, Drummer?
@SigDrums Well, it's always good to approach science, as well as other areas, with a does of humility. Humility 'paves the way' to wisdom ( if I may speak somewhat 'Socratic'). What kind of music do you play? Do you have a big kit? Double bass? Jazz, Prog, Metal? Ever heard of Dream Theater? I play Guitar (mainly prog metal stuff).
@pillsareyummy Hehe, Indeed. I'm a prog/funk drummer, currently attempting to aproach jazz. I'm a music student here in Norway, so you could say I'm very active. Last summer, I stood on the front row of the Dream Theater concert in Oslo, Opeth did the warmup. Stood face to face with LaBrie, was amazing. Been my fav band since I was 9, along with Pain of Salvation and such bands. So yeah, I love prog. ;)
Hey, you got facebook? Send me a message with your name and I'll attempt to add ya mate. ;)
The Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio. To see a partial summary of hoax evidence, google "The Naked Scientists". In the "New Theories" section of the forum there's a thread entitled "Did We Land on the Moon?". The summary is on page 15 of the thread. It's the 7th post from the top.
The universe is so much bigger than just the Earth or the solar system. People saying we shouldn't leave earth cuz we're a disease should sod off with their short sightedness. This is so much bigger than just this insignificant time period of our species..
MrChimochay 3 weeks ago
There is no legitimate argument against the colonization of other worlds in my opinion. If humanity chooses never to leave Earth, we resign ourselves to extinction. Even if we manage to dodge the bullet for the next 5 billion years, the death of the sun will be the end of us if we stay here.
evilemperordude 1 month ago in playlist Space Colonies
another thing, we should not be invading other planets, look what weve done to our own, to all the animals, civilizations past, we sure do like invading places,and i hope if there is life on any of the planets in space....which i think there is.... that they come down from the heavens,
smack our ass...and give us a good talking to....
Thylovely4you 2 months ago
@Thylovely4you what wrong did we do to our plant? I see no bad things about human influence on Earth... bdw. right now we are even more ecological then any other civ. before us... even so called ,,natural civilizations,,
Petrhrabal 2 months ago
we have ruined the earth , and now there is so much rubbish littering space
Thylovely4you 2 months ago
I think Buzz is the only man that can get away with that tie.
SolidSnake032486 3 months ago
Our primary objective must be the colonization of as many planets and solar systems as possible. Only this will ensure the survival of our species trough the millenias.
Just imagine what humanity will look like in a thousand years if we continue to advance technologically.
SternMann93 3 months ago
My Affirmative topic for policy is Colonization of Space:D
jdills1196 4 months ago
People think terraforming Mars won't take too long, but it could take millenia.
stratocaster1986able 5 months ago
The only problem to space expansion is the same as it was for the roman empire, communication. If we were able to travel to the stars right now, we would only be able to colonize up to 50 light years maybe less. This is because we cannot send communications faster than light so if I was on the farthest colony and want to radio my pal on earth it would take 50 years to reach him. Unless we have a way to send usable date via superluminal communication there is a virtual wall in space expansion.
SquadFatherEnt 8 months ago
@SquadFatherEnt What does this matter? If each colony is self-supporting, and their people free, they do not need to communicate- even if they did, there would be no hope for rescue. Their best best would be to wait on a radio from US telling them we've invented hyperwave radio and here's how it works.
7j8i9m 6 months ago
@7j8i9m The reason we would have to colonize space is because we are running out of room and resources on earth. We wouldnt let colonies live independently since we would need the planet for what it has for the general human population. Unless the planet revolts against the owning faction...
SquadFatherEnt 6 months ago
The Obama administration believes something is too costly?!? This has to be a joke. And why a NASA mission of all things?
rhinnawi95 9 months ago
People on Mars may be martians not earthlings but we all still gonna be humans.
alexavenger911 9 months ago
im going to post a video about 30 mins about how we should colonize on moon and mars. From what I learned check it out
NotABadFighter 10 months ago
I have great respect for NASA and admire Carl Sagan, but this is political, emotional propaganda and it makes me sad to see them go down at that level..
anne1024 11 months ago
I have great respect for NASA and admire Carl Sagan, but this is political, emotional propaganda and it makes me sad to see them go down at that level..
anne1024 11 months ago
"Everything is permissable, but not everything is beneficia"...Proverbs
How about big fucking NO to these absolutely crazy, idiotic, nerds...who have no sensibility, just information...that does NOT make them wise
PEACE
davidtibble7 1 year ago
@davidtibble7 But having a book on information, doesn't make you wise either
TheChanclafaced 11 months ago
Chris Hadfield = Goose
cheezombie 1 year ago
Whoa, 1 in 3000 chance of hitting the earth? Is this Apothas your are talking about? I believe the odds were in the neighborhood of 1 in 60000, and that's ONLY if it passes through the small window when it does a fly by sometime in the net decade.
Spidoink 1 year ago
I want to go to Mars.
11CarpeDiem 1 year ago
Great video!!!!
bigswallow2 1 year ago
It seems to me we need to do a great deal more theorizing and practical reviews of the possibility of our planet's population attempting to pursue life in a totally foreign and novel location with it's consideration for vital and "earth-centric" necessities. The video presented opens that door as well as including the best minds to pursue the obstacle-ridden journey. I just hope I'm up for it.
mrpeaceworks 1 year ago
"Bla bla historical Europeans are so naughty for colonizing, bla bla..." To hell with spending on Environmental change, let's colonize, let's do it! This is how we advance ourselves!
SoldatSolutrea 1 year ago 33
@SoldatSolutrea What we need is a one world government to eliminate the massive world miltary spendings and put most of that too science. If we had that the human race might think better and start to work together rather than compete agaist each other. Thats how we survive for now. We cant go colonize to any other planet right now. So we need Environmental change to survive on earth right now. We must focus on turning the distruction of our biosphere too the improvement of our biosphere.
TylerThrashPeace 1 year ago 4
Why would anyone want to live on Mars? It's cold, and the gravity's not right. (And that's not even mentioning the other problems.
Seems smarter to me to just preserve Earth really well and if we're worried about asteroids, figure out how to deflect them. Because even if people DO go live on Mars, there'd still be many people on Earth too. (probably many many more people.)
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak
Then its is quite evident, that your opinion of whats smarter, isn't worth listening to. The universe is a dangerous place. A handful of well placed nukes, could destroy all of civilization. If just one of the many super volcanoes on earth activate, all of humanity will suffocate in a cloud of ash. If the sun gives in, for reasons known, or reasons unexpected, we're dead.
ghostbuddy 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak
You could go off for hours, listing geological or cosmic events, that we know to have happened in the past, or in other solar systems, that would presently cause the extinction of the human race. But thats just the half of it. Every other month, scientests are awed at a natural phenomon they were previous ignorant of. What if that natural phenomon would spell the end of humanity? Its not enough to colonize mars either; we need to spread as thin as possible.
ghostbuddy 1 year ago 11
@Shavarnarak
A super volcanoe could activate next week. Some natural phenomon in a parallel dimension, could rob the sun of its energy,causing it to collapse in on itself, next month. Our galaxy could collide with a different galaxy in ten thousand years. The entire universe could collapse in a million years.
ghostbuddy 1 year ago
@ghostbuddy
"Some natural phenomon in a parallel dimension, could rob the sun of its energy,causing it to collapse in on itself"
lolwut
3rkid2 1 year ago
@3rkid2
I mean, if you look at some of the stuff in string theory, who knows whats possible. I mean, its pretty commonly accepted, that theres atleast four dimensions, then in string theory, theres anywhere between 11 and an infinite amount depending on the specific theory. That example was more of a lead-in for the post that followed. I suppose putting it in the middle of those examples, without being clear, wasn't the wisest thing, I could of done.
ghostbuddy 1 year ago
@3rkid2
The point is, our existence is fragile. Theres plenty of real phenomon, that we know of, that would spell our extinction. And then theres the phenomon we have never observed, or theorized about, which could cause our extinction. That example was the latter. The rest were the former.
ghostbuddy 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak
Out of the chaos of the universe, simple life began to take form. Through evolution, we were given life. Consciousness, emotions, memories, culture, art, history, philosophy, science and technology. We stand to lose everything. We are at the mercy of the universe, and all reason compells us to see that mercy is not infinite. With the same confidence that I can say, we aren't alone in the universe, I can also say, somewhere an advanced species is facing its own extinction.
ghostbuddy 1 year ago
wrong. people on living on mars will indeed be humans, but they will not be earthlings.
loosekarrott 1 year ago 2
The western economies are having their knees hacked to bits, this video shouldn't even exist.
EliteDoomer 1 year ago
what the.. they will still know them selves as humans, its just martians vs earthlings.
Georgeqaws 1 year ago
The problem is that NASA is the first to get fundding cut to save money in this resetion. The problem is Bush flushed away the surpluss.
dave19941000 1 year ago
obama is an a-hole he keeps this from happening but funds babykilling
valstar1000 1 year ago
@valstar1000 Your statment makes no sents.
dave19941000 1 year ago
@valstar1000 Are you refering to abortion or war? I hope(unfortunately though)that you are refering to abortion. I agree, he has halted-grounded a lot of missions planed by nasa because of inadequate interest/and funding that he gives to black churches and then wines about how there should be more seperation of church and state. What a double standard a-hole!
unsupervisedidiots 1 year ago
Where can the complete Carl Sagan Interview be found?
2plus2is9 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The evidence shows that they faked the moon landings. Here's a link to some of it.
3W's (dot) brainsturbator (dot) com/forums/viewthread/1335/
(check link for gaps)
Cosmored 1 year ago
Well put together. Thank goodness for Canadian television, Making Michigan that much smarter by proximity.
nak807 1 year ago
The people who move to Mars would be so interesting to study, from an anthropological/psychological point of view.
mickeymoo26 1 year ago
THIS is exactly why I strongly believe there is a SECRET space program a least a thousand years ahead of NASA's pathetic "booster rocket racket" bullsh%$.The US ripped a page out of Constantine the Great's (325AD) playbook : Always have a Plan B for Western Civilization. Colonizing is part of Western Civilization, its in our DNA...We are an EXPANSIVE civilization. It is our birth right to move out into the stars.
RideMyBMW 1 year ago
kinda strange but it is true about the quote from "the matrix" ( and I know what a strange lace to quote from) but humans do behave like parasites. We consume, until we drain the host (planet) then repeat
boorens18 1 year ago
@boorens18 I agree.
However the focus here is extinction level events that have nothing to do with depletion of natural resources.
Our raping the planet is mostly due to over-population and a prevailing fetish for needless excuberance.
HRage 1 year ago
This video omits the fact that we have an impossibly large debt due to two unfunded wars courtesy of the GW Bush administration.
SaganAppreciationSoc 1 year ago
Great video. It was a very good collection of interviews. I'd really like to see more of the Hadfield interview. I remember seeing it when it first aired and it was excellent.
angooos 1 year ago
"Our future is in space" - We are allready in space, one would be ignorant to think differently.
"It would be marsans, not humans, who would inherit..." - I believe it would be more correct to say "It would be marsans, not earthlings.." We are humans regardless of space location.
Other than that, great video. I'm a huge fan of these people, Sagan in particular.
SigDrums 1 year ago
@SigDrums "We are allready in space" Actually, we (humans) haven't been in space since the Moon missions. The shuttle and space station are still under the protection of the Earth's atmosphere (thus not in space).
pillsareyummy 1 year ago
@pillsareyummy You're missunderstanding, mate. I mean we are just as much in space as the moon is. We are in the cosmos, and the cosmos is in us. :)
Otherwise, you would state that we are in the center of the universe.
SigDrums 1 year ago
@SigDrums Ah, perhaps you should have stated that we 'are a PART of the Cosmos'. In that we are, as Sagan would have said, "Star dust, contemplating the Stars'... "Forget about Jesus, the stars died so you could exist", Laurence krauss. Oh, about the 'drums' in your name, Drummer?
pillsareyummy 1 year ago
@pillsareyummy Well, I suppose.
Yeah, I'm a drummer among other things. Science, though, is to me a matter of admiration, a humble part of my mind you could say. :)
SigDrums 1 year ago
@SigDrums Well, it's always good to approach science, as well as other areas, with a does of humility. Humility 'paves the way' to wisdom ( if I may speak somewhat 'Socratic'). What kind of music do you play? Do you have a big kit? Double bass? Jazz, Prog, Metal? Ever heard of Dream Theater? I play Guitar (mainly prog metal stuff).
pillsareyummy 1 year ago
@pillsareyummy Hehe, Indeed. I'm a prog/funk drummer, currently attempting to aproach jazz. I'm a music student here in Norway, so you could say I'm very active. Last summer, I stood on the front row of the Dream Theater concert in Oslo, Opeth did the warmup. Stood face to face with LaBrie, was amazing. Been my fav band since I was 9, along with Pain of Salvation and such bands. So yeah, I love prog. ;)
Hey, you got facebook? Send me a message with your name and I'll attempt to add ya mate. ;)
SigDrums 1 year ago
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The Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio. To see a partial summary of hoax evidence, google "The Naked Scientists". In the "New Theories" section of the forum there's a thread entitled "Did We Land on the Moon?". The summary is on page 15 of the thread. It's the 7th post from the top.
Also, do a YouTube search on "MarsFaker
Cosmored 1 year ago
Thrice thanks for posting.
henik9 2 years ago
Also thanks for posting?
peaceful0tiger 2 years ago
Thanks for posting.
nozar7 2 years ago