@MrReco12 No such thing as charity or human kindness exists. Nope, wait, but they do! The state, filled with such people, suddenly becomes kind and charitable!
Far Too many lies accepted as facts from that period.
I noticed the painted shop windows, is A Reasonable Response to a call for the boycott of all German goods and services a few years earlier by jews.
Slap someone expect to be slapped back.
Hidden from the people is the fact Pope John Paul II was employed as a chemist working for I.G.Farben on this gas. When Germany was overrun he fled into the church to hide from the allies to become a priest then eventually a pope.
Cont:. Ww1&2 were zionists wars, with the intent and motive to establish a jewish homeland in the desert of North Africa far sooner than what their religious text describe as how their God would have it. Research what the jewish religious text describe as the events that will end their god imposed exile from an israel. That exile of the jew is ended by a few events-"prophecies"-that must come true FIRST before an israel happens. The zionist knowingly pretends these prophetic events took place.
RECALL THE OLD ADAGE "THE EYES ARE A WINDOW TO THE SOUL."
THEN...PUT THIS VIDEO ON "FULL SCREEN" & CAREULLY EXAMINE SHAW'S PUPILS. USE YOUR "PAUSE" BUTTON.
DO YOU SEE THAT HIS PUPILS ARE VERY CLEARLY "VERTICAL" IN SHAPE? YES, FOLKS, THE EMINENT GEORGE BERNARD SHAW DISPLAYS VERTICAL, SLIT-SHAPED PUPILS. THAT'S THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF SO-CALLED "REPTILIAN-HUMAN(OID) SHAPE-SHIFTERS."
VIEW MY CHANNEL'S "REPTILIAN-HUMANOID INTERLOPERS" PLAYLIST.
RECALL THE OLD ADAGE "THE EYES ARE A WINDOW TO THE SOUL."
THEN...PUT THIS VIDEO ON "FULL SCREEN" & CAREULLY EXAMINE SHAW'S PUPILS. USE YOUR "PAUSE" BUTTON.
DO YOU SEE THAT HIS PUPILS ARE VERY CLEARLY "VERTICAL" IN SHAPE? YES, FOLKS, THE EMINENT GEORGE BERNARD SHAW DISPLAYS VERTICAL, SLIT-SHAPED PUPILS. THAT'S THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF SO-CALLED "REPTILIAN-HUMAN SHAPE-SHIFTERS."
VIEW MY CHANNEL'S "REPTILIAN-HUMAN INTERLOPERS" PLAYLIST.
did this shaw man ever do anything productive besides run his mouf? he should be the first one to take a wiff of his jiffy gas.zyklon b was a fumigant and was widely used akll over. it is incapable of being used as a gas for mass murder.it was uswed to fumigate clothes ,it is all very well documented.
Not a single corpse that died from the use by the Germans of any type of poison gas whatsoever was ever discovered in any camp after the second world war, nor was any gas chamber that had been designed for use on humans. This was stated by American doctors and specialists who went through thousands of bodies found in the camps (dead from typhus and malnutrition). This evidence was not allowed to be heard at Nuremberg show trials. Germany is innocent of this crime, and tranmere789 knows it.
@TheMothman717 They enacted laws to prevent the truth of it from coming out in Europe, and they would love to elsewhere. The problem is, once honest men and women find out the truth,,, it has a habit of being spread around to others regardless of their political threats of imprisonment. That threat actually promotes us to spread it even faster and wider to more people, thanks for the motivation yuh zionnazis. [that last line is not directed @ you T.M.M.717]
@SlackerSlayer . Please see the links in my essay 'metanoia' on rtr.org under the name mothman777 to see alternative facts on the so-called holocaust.
@SlackerSlayer Sorry about that link if it was not working, sometimes the rtr.org site is very slow or temporarily down for maintenance site. The links to the evidence about no gas chambers or gassing victims from all the bodies they tested ever being found by American army officials in the camps is there. I tried several times to send you a link to a revised version of that essay and YouTube refuse to allow me to send you it.
@TheMothman717 Wow, sorry it took me so long, but I finally read the first two paragraphs, and I can see we think along the same lines, but for the god part. I see that as just a misidentified alien presence.
BULLSHIT. The only country that has killed humans with poison gas is the US&A. Look it up. NO proof of Germany ever executing prisoners with gas. Show one body by cyanide. Show millions by execution in camps. F----U. Put up, Or shut up.!!
Correct, it is provable in fact that the Germans did not use gas on anybody en masse in camps which were set up for the internment of enemies of the state, which naturally included most Jews, since Communism, Germany's enemy was recognised then as a Jewish controlled entity. That didn't include over 150,000 German Jews who fought in the Wehrmacht during the war of course, these were seen as good Germans first and Jews second, and that was the factor which decided their fate.
@GrassPossum What's that over there in the lawn? It's a grave marker, dig here to find the missing gas victims. Nothing there,,, oh there's another marker, dig there. Nothing again?? I see another marker, kind of grey coloured right there, dig it. Derned it nuthin. Look you fools, that's no grave marker it's a lawn hopper ! ! ! Making fools of yuh.
Any gas was directed at bugs as the evidence determined, once anyone Looks at it.
Is not only during WWII - it is before, during and after....My country become socialist after the WWII and the hundred thousands of deads are speaking....
This is ridiculous. The Left didn't support Hitler, not the Left that had its head screwed on anyway. Hitler was a bourgeois dictator who wanted to maintain capitalism, and he did this through the means of a false revolution.
@smileyfacemug The left on many occasions adored Hitler. You need to read your history. Hell, Time gave him the man of the year (1939). Or try taking a look at the NAZI party platform - it is almost word for word the democratic platform of today. Just take out the whole killing of millions of jews and Dems would vote for this platform.
I would suggest the very well researched and footnoted book call Liberal Fascism. You need to speak from facts.
@SpencerMoseley I know the facts. Look, you're an American - I don't mean to generalize, but I doin't think Americans understand Europe or its history that well. The Nazis were a group of right wing extremists and Hitler was a supporter of capitalism - i.e. he believed in private ownership of the means of production. The American Democratic Part has nothing to do with it anyway - and in fact you trizialize the horror of Nazism by drawing a comparison.
@smileyfacemug Please detail how Hilter was right wing. Your evidence is rather thin I suspect. The dems loved and adhored Hitler for years. This is a known fact. You just need to accept the Dems as supporters of these policies.
Sorry if I judge that book n cover,,, but he did like to *dress up* as Army man. Oathing to imaginary God, that type of stuff. It is normally the con-serving catholics that really pile on the propaganda to distance themselves from Hitlers phillosophy, even to the extent to lie about him being an Atheist. Would a self respecting Atheist have his army give oath to a god? No don't be silly.
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I couldn't really hear what he was saying and his tone [I do know Irish accents, me folks are from Belfast],,, was he joking and this is taken out of context? The phrase "humane not cruel" does have a dark humor twist to it.
@thevisamaster haha it was satire that it was satire. same logic, since you denying simple facts that nationalSOCIALIST are all about, and other leftwing that the nazis are just like you;)
@MrReco12 goebells himself said that "lenin was the greatest man, second only to hitler, and that the difference between communism and the hitler faith was very slight"
LOL you should try reading the SOCIALIST part and their left wing idelogy in both economic and warfare and way to their government acted the same way the communist dictatorship did
@MrReco12 actually , goebells supported lenin several times htt p://ww w.youtube.co m/watch?v=4gHwJmJwdTM
what is it with the left and lies?
nationalSOCIALISM and still thinks the leftist nazis can fool people into beliving its not socialism when it got both the NAME and its policies in nazism? let alone the closeness of communism?^^ the leftist of nationalsocialism wanted to rule through their way, just like stalin wanted lenin gone. leftist struggle for power
I found this movie by a paranormal magazine that I read. And wants to watched it. But I don't want to tell you what magazine I read, cause my gov. may be BANNED it, from the shelf. Unfortuenetely Nazists create this 'Cyclone B' in Poland, when my country was in German hands in wars.
@trakomako well rich people are perfectly able and theyre not crazy, just greedy. I dont call for killing disabled folks, i call for killing driven and intelligent people. big difference there
@trakomako well i cant explain why it is nobody ever tried to kill the rich jews, why did the rich ones get to just walk away from the whole situation. Its the rich that should of perished, Castro style revolution.
@CRAPCANNONS Actually the original Zyklon B gas was considered painless because it was invisible and didnt hurt the senses, But after a few german soldiers were gassed themselves while working with it a irratant was put into it so the handlers would know when they were being exposed to it. So yes it was painless but when as used by the germans it irratated the senses to the point of extreme pain.
wsj article: Broke—and Building the Most Expensive School in U.S. History
Benches that talk, a Cocoanut Grove auditorium, and a marble slab engraved with quotes from Ted Kennedy.
On a California high school being built, the most expensive in US history even though CA is broke --but school being built on tax payer dollars. It will feature quotes from GBS on a marble slab. How pathetic! It does not say it in the title but its on the slide show.
@jenlight They were... 6-7mln Ukrainian peasants killed "Holodomor", whole populations moved to remote places... all basically on ethnic grounds, but disguised in communist dialectics. They believed that some races are not predestined to achieve next stages of communist evolvement. e.g. Poles. There was a period Nazis sent their future death camp managers to Beria's friendly NKVD to learn how to select, how to punish, how to run a camp (1938-1941)
The Soviets and the Nazis alike believed in the darwinist/malthusian dogma that there were 'more evolved' forms of civilization: tribes and rural societies being the least evolved, and industrial, centrally-controlled civilization being the most evolved.
So Darwin, and later Marx and Engels, wrote about how primitive societies should be forcefully deculturalized and purged into forced labor, in industrial cities. The ones that wouldn't adapt or accept that, should be exterminated.
@LibertyTruthJustice Darwin never wrote such a thing. Given that I so far only have your word, I require an actual citation before I seriously consider it of Marx or Engels either.
Darwin wrote about it on The Descent of Man. And it wasn't anything new, since the scientific socialists, like Saint-Simon, had already talked about "societal evolution",whereby a scientific elite would force the people into being good human resources.
On Marx, I'm not going to give a quotation, since I'm not your nanny. But go and read their 1850s papers, where they talk of the difference between the 'revolutionary' and the 'reactionary' peoples, and the need to wipe out the later.
Lol. I'm not going to debate the sex of the angels with you pal. You're free to believe the moon is made of cheese, as far as I'm concerned. But the reference stays, for everyone else that might be interested: read 'The Descent of Man', by Darwin, for a good insight into the type of pseudoscientific bigotry that gave rise to western eugenics and soviet ethnic-based purges.
It's still present today, since it's the driving belief of both marxists and monopoly capitalists.
@LibertyTruthJustice "Sex of the angels"? We're not debating the finer talking point here but the major position. Darwin wrote that "lesser" races (he was a racist, there's no question on that) would eventually be eliminated and thus the apparent gap between ourselves and apes would widen. Eugenics and and the soviet purges may have been justified by perverting the writings of Darwin, but they did not rely on them. Artificial selection and ethnic hatred predate Darwin by ages.
"Artificial selection and ethnic hatred predate Darwin by ages"
How is that possible when Darwin talked about those same concepts, albeit not using those exact words, in "The Descent of Man"?
Yet, it was published after Marx and Engels had already developed their hatred for, and their necessity to destroy, 'reaccionary peoples'; but it still served as an inspiration for his cousin's theory of inter and intra-ethnic eugenics.
@LibertyTruthJustice Darwin couldn't write about concepts that predate him? Honestly don't know how to answer that. It's like someone who refuses to accept basic arithmetic.
By your own admission, Marx and Engels came by their hatred already. If they abuse a scientific theory for their own ends, of what relevance is that?
I'm sorry, but if you wanna play spin-doctors, go find someone else to play with.
Marxist theory is all out in the open, it's verifiable, and so is Darwin's and the Nazi ideology. All of these advocate the evolution of society through to a 'highly developed' stage, and that all human societies must go under that process; otherwise they would impair or even endanger the development of the 'highest forms'.
These inhuman principles are still followed today, for the 'global society'.
@LibertyTruthJustice How is pointing out your poor logic a spin? And do you really not understand the difference between the scientific theory of biological evolution and political ideology using the term social evolution?
But just for the sake of argument, let's say that Darwin actually supported the views you say he did? So what?
No, I'm one of those boring guys who happens to read UN treaties, Bank for International Settlements reports, and Club of Rome books. These, I think are the 'new world order' nutters you're talking about, since they keep talking about their new world system of globalism, based on a merger of collectivism, for mass management, with monopoly capitalism, for the big banks and multinational corporations.
@LibertyTruthJustice I suppose that would sting if there were any evidence you had any clue of what you were talking about. If you're done with the ad hominem, how about you actually answer a question or support your position. Here's another question I'll bet you'll avoid. Do you believe in evolution or common descent or not?
Funny how you're trying to spin this into the theory of evolution itself. I didn't mention anything about that ;)
What interests me is Darwin's socio-political legitimization of Nazism, Socialism, and Monopoly Capitalism. (the eugenical systems, that believe in deculturalization, eradication of the undesirable, and 'societal evolution' by central committees made up of 'those who know best'). His views fit into those of the scientific socialists, like Hegel.
@LibertyTruthJustice Again, claims without support. I asked you to support your claim that he spells it out in The Descent of Man. You dodged. I challenged you on your claim re: eugenics. You dodged.
You asked for a reference, so I gave it: The Descent of Man. It's public, for everyone to read. Now, go read it. Don't be lazy. As I said, I'm not your nanny.
I don't have to 'prove things to you', just because you feel you deserve it. I can point out references, you can choose to not be lazy. That's how it works.
Of course people that will actually read the book will know who the scheister here is. Fortunately, there's a criterium for truth, no matter how much people like you don't like it.
@LibertyTruthJustice Another dodge. Have you ever actually read it or are you going by some favorite blogger. Here's a simple proof you can do. Quote a single sentence or name the chapter where Charles lays it out so clearly. While you're at it you might explain why all the creationists misquoting Darwin have not jumped all over this.
@LibertyTruthJustice "First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom" - Martin Luther
How did Martin Luther get a hold of a copy of Darwin and why doesn't he give him proper credit?
@LibertyTruthJustice Woosh! right over your head. Suppose I shouldn't be surprised. If the origins of such things like the extermination of millions of Jews by Hitler had its origins in Darwin, how did such sentiments show up earlier in the writings of a religious leader?
What is it about the paradigm that says science should be employed to control the 'evolution' of society that you don't understand..?
Btw, you're focusing on Darwin (he must be some kind of fetish, for you), but he was really just another scientist/philosopher advocating the use of the scientific view to steer society. I also mentioned the scientific socialists (Fichte, Hegel, St.Simon, Comte); and i could also mention Malthus, the East India Co. advocate of looting and genocide.
@LibertyTruthJustice 1) Darwin never advanced that paradigm. 2) That was not the motive behind the acts of genocide in history
Yeah, god forbid we should rely on the facts and information that science provides us. You may wish global warming isn't happening, but the facts say otherwise. The thing is, you are ascribing motivations and values to some entirely without proof and buying into a large nutty conspiracy theory.
I should know you're a greenie loony. Hope you fare-well into your closed down commune, paying carbon taxes through the nose, to the big banks. If they still let you have books by then (they're not tree-friendly), then use your spare time to read more on the history of ideas, particularly on eugenic thinking. Since its eugenics and the UN/Club of Rome's "first global revolution" (sic) that will get you into your closed-down greenie, common purpose commune.
@LibertyTruthJustice I suppose you think all the data showing temperature increases, the modeling that shows the observed co2 increases to be the only likely culprit, the shrinking glaciers and icepacks, all that's faked? At least I can see why you were unable to really cite any facts. You have none. Sheeple like you follow your conspiracy gurus like demented fan girls.
See, I actually studied it . Enough to know there's been no statistically significant warming for the last 15 years (and even the IPCC admits that, now); and that the prime driver of climate is not CO2 (which is marginal, at best), but the input of solar and cosmic radiation and the cloud systems.
It's too bad that construccionist science, based on theoretical models, can pass off as real science, but it's not. The minority advocating that is being exposed by the day, though.
@LibertyTruthJustice Congratulations on memorizing some talking points. You denialists should thank God for el nino, the solar cycle, and your inability to understand statistics. If you look at NOAA or GISS rather than HadCRUT the change is more significant. Check out Potholer54's vids on the issue. The problem w. the other models is that they don't track or explain the trend.
No, I mean what I mean, and that is construcionism. Social constructionism. The 'scientific' paradigm that says reality is a social construction, rather than objective and measurable. Under that, reality can be adjusted to theory, provided that there is a 'social consensus' backing it (being that consensus is redefined, it can be any social group, no matter how large or significant). In other words, it's dialectical materialism, the knowledge theory of Soviet anti-science.
@LibertyTruthJustice Either way, it's bull. Climate science is based on the facts. Instrumental data, objective observations and the application of proven physical principles rule the findings.
The funny thing is, it is your beliefs that you are warding off the facts with.
By the way, I hope you realize that, the more you show yourselves (I treat you as a collective, since you are a collective creature, quite clearly) to be arrogant, foul-mouthed, and insulting, the more discredited you become. So, please, go ahead: keep at it.
History will also remember you for that; for being little more than thugs, depending on personal attacks for debates, defrauding science.
Our conversation is now, definately, over. There is none, to have with you.
As a matter of fact, every month that goes by, Dr. Piers Corbyn and his Weather Action team prove the warmists wrong, when they get weather trends right again and again, based on the study of solar activity. All the while, the arrogant warmist obscurantists are still clinging on to CO2 and computer models, and so they fail miserably in their predictions. I have no Schadenfreude, but I am glad the truth is getting out.
@LibertyTruthJustice Piers Corbyn is one of the worst nuts out there. He actually claims there is no evidence tying c02 to global warming. We have experiments going back over a century. His predictions are not only insignificant, but have often failed.
Unlike what you would wish it to be, Dr. Corbyn has a track record, and it's almost spotless. Warmists have theirs, and it's always wrong. In the end, history will decide.
In the end, warmists will be remembered for being little more than intellectual prostitutes, a part of the great anti-scientific movement that tried to destroy empirical science, in the name of big profits and power consolidation.
The truth, including scientific truth, will always prevail.
@LibertyTruthJustice The only peer reviewed study of Corbyn's work showed him no better than average at weather forecasting. He has failed repeatedly in his predictions. When called out on this, rather than respond to his critics he has hidden his work away. I've gone to his site, he fails to openly list his predictions and their success rate. His failures are a matter of public record.
Climatologists have predicted increasing temperatures and that's what we've gotten, odd failure.
Piers Corbyn is right. There ain't correlation between CO2 and global warming. It's actually against the law of physics. German thermodynamics scientiests Gerhard Gerlich and Ralf D. Tscheuschner has also critisized the whole greenhouse gas theory as unscientific blunder.
@tranmere789 Wow. No correlation? So two physicists have invalidated 150 years of successful, predictive research? If you think the greenhouse effect violates thermodynamics you don't understand one or the other. G&T's paper is an embarrassing blunder. There's a good basic refutation at atmoz dot org. There are also other refutations sited at sourcewatch.
Never mind, solar activity might increase in a year or two. Meanwhile, we get our arses taxed off for "burning carbon" because in 100 years we had +1F. thats 0.6C or +0.006C a year for unlocking the very life blood back onto the Earth. The carbon cycle.
I'd of killed that cunt Shaw, with an axe, slowly.
@m1aws That would be almost be valid criticism if if the rise over the last century were a linear one. It is not. You might as well say the change has been +0.0006 over the last millenia. You also neglect the fact that an essential part of the carbon cycle is its reabsorbtion.
@Maxdwolf I've never thumped anyone in my life. What are you on about?
Deforestation in the past 30 years has gone beyond reason along with the human populace and the need to eat meat. of course it's non linear up to 1995. After 2005 the Earth's overall temp has plummeted. Especially in the Southern hemisphere.
@m1aws Killing someone with an axe is generally considered violence by most people.
If you acknowledge that it's an exponential function, your initial point is invalidated. Deforestation has certainly contributed, but is not the major factor. I'm not sure why you brought up eating meat.
The earth's temps have not plummeted since 2005. They have not even been level.
@Maxdwolf Axe - A point of view and actually doing it are two utterly different things. Not noticed?
AGW
Nothing is the major factor! No pogrom in the world ever caused global cooling! The science and logging has been totally blown out of the water as a fraud.
Cows poo methane by the gallon. It takes a lot of land to feed an animal. Brazilian land.
Read my last post. It's been the coldest winter in the UK for over 100 years. The US is house deep in places. A g/f's place is -20C. AUS = floods
@Maxdwolf Its you who is confusing the two issues. Interestingly It was Fabian who predicted the use of climate change into subjugating the people.
I'n glad methane is being released from the soviet gas pipes. Tundra? you mean that frozen soil from warmer times?
Individual cold areas. Whoa! I like that! We are at a maunder minimum. I already won a hefty bet off one of you clever clogs that this winter would be exceptional.
@m1aws No, you are applying a double standard, and in this case it makes you a hypocrite.
Ok, Fabian was wrong. So?
Having permafrost thaw doesn't mean it's any good for agriculture. One must also balance any possible gains there against loss of farmland elsewhere, the disruption of ecosystems, and the collapse of fisheries. And if global warming isn't happening, why do you argue it may be a good thing.
Fabianism is very wrong! The trouble is, its being applied throughout the world. A few countries are dismantling it this very day. Mainly North African.
This AGW shit. OK. First you are off topic. Charging Nations for using fuel does not stop AGW and go fuck off to the Sahal where they are gaining 170,000 km^2 of green land a year due to global cooling.
The rest is all in your mind. Stop throwing dead fish back in the sea might help.
@m1aws Google it. You held yourself to a different standard. If you can't grasp that, there's no helping you.
You bring up Fabianism but I'm off topic? You're a funny guy.
Again if global warming isn't happening, why is it having effects? Can you guarantee the gains in the sahel will outweigh the losses in the US Southwest, India, Europe and Bangladesh?
All in my mind? No, all those problems are well documented. The temp gain comes from UAH satellite measurements.
@m1aws Oh great, another NWO nut. Lying about me won't help you.
Are you saying that all those technicians know less than you do about interpreting satellite data? You do know it's satellite data is what pointed to greening of the Sahel. Are satellites only correct when they agree with you?
Yes, deforestation is a problem. So are rising seas. Overpopulation is a problem. So is drought due to missing glaciers.
@m1aws You're following the wrong money. There's a great deal more money to be had from the oil companies. And are the conspiracists causing the glacier's to melt?
Stop believing everything you watch on youtube. A conspiracy theorist video is evidence only that conspiracy theorists exist on youtube.
The oceans are not expected to rise a full 20 feet for about a century. And Al Gore is irrelevant anyway.
1) You have yet to show the Fabian conspiracy exists. 2) Fact or not, still OT.
@m1aws If you can't tell the difference between a youtube video and an actual reliable source there is not hope for you.
Why would OPEC publicly underestimate the size of their reserves? It's in their best interest to inflate prices.
The Fabian society is a gradualist democratic socialist movement. Your ridiculous theories tying them to nonexistent genocide are what need to be proved.
@Maxdwolf Youtube, financial insiders or wikileaks? It's you who has no idea what you are talking about.
No its not in OPEC's best interest to inflate prices.They get paid with bonds. Do they want the bond values to plummet into nothing? duh! maxkeiser might help you there.
Hitler was a pro-Fabian socialist. The old in UK homes are drugged until they do not eat nor drink to death. Try getting into the real world and look around. Stop being the parasite you are.
@m1aws You need to stop being such a sheeple. You actually think people are being killed in old folks homes as part of a socialist agenda?
OPEC doesn't get paid with bonds. They get paid in dollars, much of which they invest in bonds. They are free to invest elsewhere.
If the world isn't getting warmer, why is the Arctic ice getting thinner? Why are glaciers retreating? Why is spring coming earlier? Why is the tundra thawing?
@Maxdwolf The bonds are in dollars. It's something that comes from a printing press, hence the debts.
The lack of solar activity has weakened the trade winds. That is why a lot the USA is suffering the cold. Russia has got it extremely bad atm with parts of the South in 2m, -20C drifts. The South is literally plummeting off the scale. Not seen the news? La nina has messed up AUS dead bad. Look at the Antarctic! See the graphs!!!
And uninformed proles like you call me sheeple!! U can't even lie.
@m1aws The Saudis are free to switch currencies at any time and the price of their product would be sure to rise more than the currency deflates.
Have you never heard of the Arctic Oscillation or the NAO? There's no evidence of reduced solar activity this year. Your statement of the southern hemisphere is an utter crock.
so, when the going gets tough, the people you argue become 'nuts'
shame on you. either get familiar with the facts that are thrown at you, or stay ignorant, but don't call people nuts, especially people you never really met in your life
Btw, they also think of you as an 'inferior type', see; the tradition that was inaugurated by people like Malthus, the scientific socialists, Darwin, Spencer, Galton. Etc. You see, there are 'superior types' in the species and these are the ones who own investment banks and get filthy rich on carbon taxes; and there are the 'inferior types', who are to get very poor (austere, like the UN and the IMF say) paying those. All the while, the planet will be cooling, ironically enough.
@LibertyTruthJustice You don't even understand the philosophies you warn against. But then, you have to twist things to get such a distorted world view.
Darwin merely tried to legitimize that, as a social/political extension of his theory of biology. He merely made that vision of things appear 'scientific', for the public. Pseudo-scientific. As a matter of fact, Marx even wrote him a letter at one point, congratulating him for legitimizing dialectic materialism (i.e., social "evolution" towards the hegelian state, through contrived conflict).
But Darwin isn't even the fulcrum here. This inhumane vision of things is.
@LibertyTruthJustice Boy, you find yourself in a hole and just keep digging. Not only did you not address any previous criticisms, but now you come up with even more nonsense? Evolution by natural selection is a scientific theory supported by mountains of evidence. What Marx may or may not have had to say about it is irrelevant.
I agree. An inhumane vision is what leads to many of the injustices of the world. This vision can be found everywhere, including the bible. Your point?
On the other points, I already made my point and, as I said, I'm not here to play at spin-doctoring and dialectics with you. So, if you wanna, go find someone else to play.
A good essay to start with is by Engels, "The Magyar Struggle", published in Neue Rheinische Zeitung, no. 194, January 1849. You can even find it on marxistsDOTorg. This documentary, the Soviet Story, actually has a quote from it.
@LibertyTruthJustice Engels writes of a war in that essay. And in the manner of rhetoric typical of such propaganda he writes of his side wiping out the other. Doesn't say what you said it did.
He doesn't just write of a war; he writes of a particular view of what development and 'social evolution' means. Of what should drive the "world war" he anticipates there. And his is the perspective of marxist theory, when they talk of the "evolutionary perspective" of society.
But, as I said, you're very free to believe whatever you want.
@LibertyTruthJustice I don't need your permission for my beliefs, even less to acknowledge the facts. The views you write of are not evinced in the essay you put forth. There is no evidence there of any connection between Darwin and the Marxists (use of the word evolution, if it exists, is not evidence).
Yes he did, and just because you have a religious belief to the contrary, that shouldn't prevent you from actually going into who your guru was, and what he believed.
You should also go into his heroes, Hegel and Saint-Simon. His elitist, virulent view of reality came from these people.
And yes, he was not a Soviet, but the Soviets enhacted his principles with devotion. They were true Marxists, as all their victims know.
So, that's what the Soviets did, through mass genocide and forced deculturalization; and their model was essentially copied from what the British malthusian darwinists had already been doing in India and South Africa.
The Nazis were also on board with all of that, so, like the Soviets (and the British before that), their war of cultural purging was directed against independent peoples that wouldn't easily accept the 'industrial state utopia': Jews, Slav subgroups and Gipsies.
@LibertyTruthJustice I'm not saying Stalin wasn't racist. Although I'd argue he wasn't even close to Hitler. He was paranoid in an entirely different way. He killed either because of his paranoia or because he thought it was monetarily efficient.
These are apples and oranges. And I think Stalin was one of the most evil men to ever live, but it does nobody any good to simplify anything by saying "they were like Nazis" or "he was like Hitler".
Yes, Stalin was completely paranoid and that was the main reason for his incredible 'inner party' purges. But, when you go into what he (and Lenin) did to the population at large, you find the economic reason is the essential one. They were trying to build up an industrial empire, and as such, they used the population as cheap, disposable human resources. They essentially repeated what had been done in England, 100 years earlier.
But, and this is key, they were also trying to create "the new soviet man" -- the 'Fichtian man' really. To create such a creature, they needed to ultra-socialize the entire population (through education, regimented city life, and so on) and, as such, they needed to get rid of the independent types - the ones that wouldn't accept soviet living.
That was also a major driving force behind the mass cullings inflicted on the Ukrainians, the Kazakhs, the Russian rural population and so on.
I will also add this, that I always point out to people -- on the plethora of western corporations and banks that went into the USSR to build up their megafactories. Even their central bank was controlled by something called the Ruskombank, that was run by Anglo-Americans. In several cases, the assistance went on during the entire Cold War.
The best studies on this are the academic works of Prof. Antony Sutton, of Stanford -- his career was basically ruined for going into this field.
There's never been proper evidence of gas chambers in Auschwitz or any other supposed "death camp" (in reality simple concentration camps) the Germans had during WWII.
Your an absolute moron. Communism, Socialism, Marxism, Facism, Nazism are all the same basic thing and they are the biggest killers of all time and always will be. They seek to place total control in the state and remove all moral duty to a higher being by placing themselves as the arbiters of relative moral truth. In others words that means whatever fits their whim at the time and any body who opposes. Well they can just be gassed. Only the socialist would care if it was humane killing gas
They would prefer to use a nice long blade and lop of your head. Either way they are all evil at their core no matter how much they try to convince the stupid lazy masses that they are there to help them.
Your comment is probably the first where I wondered to myself why I was taking the time to respond.
I dont know how many "IRANians" have died in the IRAQ war currently being run by our semi facist US government under GWB and now Extermely Facist US Goverment under BHO soon to be full blown murderous Marxist US government. Enlighten us all.The worthless Us educational system I wasted 17 years in taught me socialism was good. It was in real life that I learned that was Heaping Stinking Bull crap
Obama isn't Marxist, socialist or any other left wing ism you said were all the same in your first response. He's a Capitalist, hardcore. He is wringing out the Sheeple for all they are worth.
Problem with true socialism is that the people HAVE to get (and allowed to be) involved in the government. Most are too lazy, greedy and stupid so it's easy to control them with Consumerism and Mass Media.
@MilanTbay Non-existent? What's non-existent about a store of yellow-cake uranium so very real that even your vaunted CNN had to give our military's removal of it from Iraq at least a mention in their ticker?
@myeyepie Communism, socialism,fascism,marxism, nazism ... are all the same thing? Well they must be because they all end with -ism and sound nasty... lol You really need an academic education,son. As for Shaw, lol ... He was a master of satire and cynicism. You can count on the simpletons and right-wingers to take things out of context to advance their agendas.
Let us compare the USSR and Nazi Germany at the End of World War 2. Both had entirely Bolshevized economies and both were fiercely nationalistic.
Hitlers economic policy is only slightly more moderate than Marxes. He left the huge welfare programs of Otto Von Bismarck in place and the Nazi Government appropriated the goods which were produced, and this was before WW2. Hitler himself said that Stalin was (paraphrasing) a "Grand Man in his own way, half man , half giant"
Also, you would do well to remember that before it became known simply as the Nazi party it was the "National Socialist German Workers Party". The Nazis didnt just talk with the same slogans as the Communists, they acted on them. Hitler and the Nazi's advocated for the abolition of class differences period with the objective of subservience to the state. They hated Unrestricted, Western style capitalism, and the Nazis proceeded to heavily regulate all the German industries.
Another key likeness between the Marxists and Hitler was their attack on Religion. In Hitlers case it was more alike to Bismarcks "KultureKampf" against the German Catholic church than it was the Communist purges. The Nazi's substituted copies of Mein Kampf for Bibles in services, replaced Priests at marriage ceremonies with SS officers, and persecuted extreme Christian denominations such as the Jehova Witnesses.
It is true that Hitler frequently appealed to God, even the Christian one, particularly in public. But it was merely to further his aims, not unlike the Soviets reviving Russian orthodoxy during WW2 for nationalist purposes. Hitler himself said (In the book, Hitlers Table Talk) that Darwinism had destroyed the Christian dogma, and he approached Christianity from the point of view of Nietzsche,essentially, Christianity is a Religion of the Weak.
Good posts! I'll just add that Hitler was also heavily into the occult. He rose to power through the Thule society that was heavily influenced by the Theosophical society. The swastika and stiff arm salute was used as a symbol for Theosophy and also for socialism here in the U.S. well before the Nazis(google rex curry). Hitlers close friends said Hitler was a channel for spirits and was rarely ever "himself". We are not rid of Nazism, it lives on through the New Age Religion.
Hitler was definitely into the occult, but it seems to me that he was much less so than some of the people in the Nazi Party, particularly Himmler.
"We are not rid of Nazism, it lives on through the New Age Religion."
I see your point, but I honestly think that's a ridiculous charge. New Age Religion and Nazi Occultism may have loads in common but they do not seem particularly like minded. New Age is merely a stupid conglomerate about vague ideas, Nazism is a complete Ethos.
um, didn't Michelle Bachman say something just recently about people who won't work not being allowed to eat? I don't think she's a socialist.
toadstoolmamma 3 months ago
@hmelchiori1
Without the welfare state, those who are unable to work would starve to death.
MrReco12 3 months ago
@MrReco12 No such thing as charity or human kindness exists. Nope, wait, but they do! The state, filled with such people, suddenly becomes kind and charitable!
Soonerliberty 1 month ago
@hmelchiori1
Social Darwinist: Survival of the fittest(rightwing ideology).
Why the modern right are against the welfare state and attacked the unemployed.
MrReco12 3 months ago
@MrReco12 Spot on!
myopium 2 months ago
Far Too many lies accepted as facts from that period.
I noticed the painted shop windows, is A Reasonable Response to a call for the boycott of all German goods and services a few years earlier by jews.
Slap someone expect to be slapped back.
Hidden from the people is the fact Pope John Paul II was employed as a chemist working for I.G.Farben on this gas. When Germany was overrun he fled into the church to hide from the allies to become a priest then eventually a pope.
Ww1&2 zionists wars.
SlackerSlayer 4 months ago
Cont:. Ww1&2 were zionists wars, with the intent and motive to establish a jewish homeland in the desert of North Africa far sooner than what their religious text describe as how their God would have it. Research what the jewish religious text describe as the events that will end their god imposed exile from an israel. That exile of the jew is ended by a few events-"prophecies"-that must come true FIRST before an israel happens. The zionist knowingly pretends these prophetic events took place.
SlackerSlayer 4 months ago
RECALL THE OLD ADAGE "THE EYES ARE A WINDOW TO THE SOUL."
THEN...PUT THIS VIDEO ON "FULL SCREEN" & CAREULLY EXAMINE SHAW'S PUPILS. USE YOUR "PAUSE" BUTTON.
DO YOU SEE THAT HIS PUPILS ARE VERY CLEARLY "VERTICAL" IN SHAPE? YES, FOLKS, THE EMINENT GEORGE BERNARD SHAW DISPLAYS VERTICAL, SLIT-SHAPED PUPILS. THAT'S THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF SO-CALLED "REPTILIAN-HUMAN(OID) SHAPE-SHIFTERS."
VIEW MY CHANNEL'S "REPTILIAN-HUMANOID INTERLOPERS" PLAYLIST.
REALITY IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!
Volksverhetz 4 months ago
RECALL THE OLD ADAGE "THE EYES ARE A WINDOW TO THE SOUL."
THEN...PUT THIS VIDEO ON "FULL SCREEN" & CAREULLY EXAMINE SHAW'S PUPILS. USE YOUR "PAUSE" BUTTON.
DO YOU SEE THAT HIS PUPILS ARE VERY CLEARLY "VERTICAL" IN SHAPE? YES, FOLKS, THE EMINENT GEORGE BERNARD SHAW DISPLAYS VERTICAL, SLIT-SHAPED PUPILS. THAT'S THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF SO-CALLED "REPTILIAN-HUMAN SHAPE-SHIFTERS."
VIEW MY CHANNEL'S "REPTILIAN-HUMAN INTERLOPERS" PLAYLIST.
REALITY IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!
Volksverhetz 4 months ago
Murder is the definition of these practices.
Cydonia 4 months ago
did this shaw man ever do anything productive besides run his mouf? he should be the first one to take a wiff of his jiffy gas.zyklon b was a fumigant and was widely used akll over. it is incapable of being used as a gas for mass murder.it was uswed to fumigate clothes ,it is all very well documented.
xtiml 4 months ago
Not a single corpse that died from the use by the Germans of any type of poison gas whatsoever was ever discovered in any camp after the second world war, nor was any gas chamber that had been designed for use on humans. This was stated by American doctors and specialists who went through thousands of bodies found in the camps (dead from typhus and malnutrition). This evidence was not allowed to be heard at Nuremberg show trials. Germany is innocent of this crime, and tranmere789 knows it.
TheMothman717 4 months ago 2
@TheMothman717 They enacted laws to prevent the truth of it from coming out in Europe, and they would love to elsewhere. The problem is, once honest men and women find out the truth,,, it has a habit of being spread around to others regardless of their political threats of imprisonment. That threat actually promotes us to spread it even faster and wider to more people, thanks for the motivation yuh zionnazis. [that last line is not directed @ you T.M.M.717]
SlackerSlayer 4 months ago
@SlackerSlayer . Please see the links in my essay 'metanoia' on rtr.org under the name mothman777 to see alternative facts on the so-called holocaust.
TheMothman717 4 months ago
@TheMothman717 People are required to be registered to get around in there.
SlackerSlayer 4 months ago
@SlackerSlayer Sorry about that link if it was not working, sometimes the rtr.org site is very slow or temporarily down for maintenance site. The links to the evidence about no gas chambers or gassing victims from all the bodies they tested ever being found by American army officials in the camps is there. I tried several times to send you a link to a revised version of that essay and YouTube refuse to allow me to send you it.
TheMothman717 3 months ago
@SlackerSlayer mothman777.wordpress
TheMothman717 3 months ago
@SlackerSlayer . com /
metanoia/
I am trying splitting this link to get past the Bolshy web bot. Try putting this in your header bar, not the Google bar and you should get in.
TheMothman717 3 months ago
@TheMothman717 Wow, sorry it took me so long, but I finally read the first two paragraphs, and I can see we think along the same lines, but for the god part. I see that as just a misidentified alien presence.
SlackerSlayer 3 months ago
BULLSHIT. The only country that has killed humans with poison gas is the US&A. Look it up. NO proof of Germany ever executing prisoners with gas. Show one body by cyanide. Show millions by execution in camps. F----U. Put up, Or shut up.!!
profnasty 4 months ago 2
@profnasty
Correct, it is provable in fact that the Germans did not use gas on anybody en masse in camps which were set up for the internment of enemies of the state, which naturally included most Jews, since Communism, Germany's enemy was recognised then as a Jewish controlled entity. That didn't include over 150,000 German Jews who fought in the Wehrmacht during the war of course, these were seen as good Germans first and Jews second, and that was the factor which decided their fate.
GrassPossum 4 months ago
@GrassPossum What's that over there in the lawn? It's a grave marker, dig here to find the missing gas victims. Nothing there,,, oh there's another marker, dig there. Nothing again?? I see another marker, kind of grey coloured right there, dig it. Derned it nuthin. Look you fools, that's no grave marker it's a lawn hopper ! ! ! Making fools of yuh.
Any gas was directed at bugs as the evidence determined, once anyone Looks at it.
Long time my friend, hope all is well.
SlackerSlayer 4 months ago
Is not only during WWII - it is before, during and after....My country become socialist after the WWII and the hundred thousands of deads are speaking....
bujold64 5 months ago
"humane not cruel" Oh, you gotta love how the psychopaths rationalise everything...
1madaboutguitar 9 months ago
This is ridiculous. The Left didn't support Hitler, not the Left that had its head screwed on anyway. Hitler was a bourgeois dictator who wanted to maintain capitalism, and he did this through the means of a false revolution.
smileyfacemug 10 months ago
@smileyfacemug The left on many occasions adored Hitler. You need to read your history. Hell, Time gave him the man of the year (1939). Or try taking a look at the NAZI party platform - it is almost word for word the democratic platform of today. Just take out the whole killing of millions of jews and Dems would vote for this platform.
I would suggest the very well researched and footnoted book call Liberal Fascism. You need to speak from facts.
SpencerMoseley 7 months ago
@SpencerMoseley I know the facts. Look, you're an American - I don't mean to generalize, but I doin't think Americans understand Europe or its history that well. The Nazis were a group of right wing extremists and Hitler was a supporter of capitalism - i.e. he believed in private ownership of the means of production. The American Democratic Part has nothing to do with it anyway - and in fact you trizialize the horror of Nazism by drawing a comparison.
smileyfacemug 7 months ago
@smileyfacemug Please detail how Hilter was right wing. Your evidence is rather thin I suspect. The dems loved and adhored Hitler for years. This is a known fact. You just need to accept the Dems as supporters of these policies.
SpencerMoseley 7 months ago
@SpencerMoseley
-Privatization
-anti Marxism
-pro business
- Right wing alliance
-Nativist
etc.
MrReco12 6 months ago
@SpencerMoseley "Please detail how Hilter was right wing."
Sorry if I judge that book n cover,,, but he did like to *dress up* as Army man. Oathing to imaginary God, that type of stuff. It is normally the con-serving catholics that really pile on the propaganda to distance themselves from Hitlers phillosophy, even to the extent to lie about him being an Atheist. Would a self respecting Atheist have his army give oath to a god? No don't be silly.
SlackerSlayer 4 months ago
@smileyfacemug
Correct!
MrReco12 6 months ago
@smileyfacemug Well, who was this guy?
--- Born 26 July 1856 Dublin, Ireland Died 2 November 1950 (aged 94) Hertfordshire, England
Occupation Playwright, critic, political activist Nationality Irish Genres *** Satire, black comedy ***
---
I couldn't really hear what he was saying and his tone [I do know Irish accents, me folks are from Belfast],,, was he joking and this is taken out of context? The phrase "humane not cruel" does have a dark humor twist to it.
SlackerSlayer 4 months ago
Haha... oh really, GBS got a nobel from that? Bro.... it was a satire... a simple satire.
thevisamaster 11 months ago
@thevisamaster haha it was satire that it was satire. same logic, since you denying simple facts that nationalSOCIALIST are all about, and other leftwing that the nazis are just like you;)
kissemurra12 7 months ago
@kissemurra12
LOL, The Nazis themselves said they were Right wing.
MrReco12 6 months ago
@MrReco12 goebells himself said that "lenin was the greatest man, second only to hitler, and that the difference between communism and the hitler faith was very slight"
LOL you should try reading the SOCIALIST part and their left wing idelogy in both economic and warfare and way to their government acted the same way the communist dictatorship did
kissemurra12 6 months ago
@kissemurra12
Actaully, Goebbles denounced Lenin several times: watch?v=YeaMRGzoYmE
watch?v=FDbmB_QKPo4: Hitler denouncing Marxism.
What is it with the Right and lies?
MrReco12 6 months ago
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@MrReco12 actually , goebells supported lenin several times htt p://ww w.youtube.co m/watch?v=4gHwJmJwdTM
what is it with the left and lies?
nationalSOCIALISM and still thinks the leftist nazis can fool people into beliving its not socialism when it got both the NAME and its policies in nazism? let alone the closeness of communism?^^ the leftist of nationalsocialism wanted to rule through their way, just like stalin wanted lenin gone. leftist struggle for power
kissemurra12 6 months ago
Hmm, idle, useless "parasites" that consume more than they produce? Sounds a lot like the rich and the bankers to me.
YourOasis97 1 year ago
whats the song at 1:46?
TheIceMan1172 1 year ago
Shows this founder member of the Fabian society is a nut. Therefore this Fabian society and all its acolytes should be dismantled for public safety!
m1aws 1 year ago 9
I found this movie by a paranormal magazine that I read. And wants to watched it. But I don't want to tell you what magazine I read, cause my gov. may be BANNED it, from the shelf. Unfortuenetely Nazists create this 'Cyclone B' in Poland, when my country was in German hands in wars.
sandor139 1 year ago
Hitler distorted Marxism? I thought Hitler was Fascist, not Marxist..
120415 1 year ago 2
FUCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
leddevil 1 year ago
where can I find the whole documentary?
eliusbanana 1 year ago
@trakomako well rich people are perfectly able and theyre not crazy, just greedy. I dont call for killing disabled folks, i call for killing driven and intelligent people. big difference there
deceiver123m 1 year ago
@trakomako well i cant explain why it is nobody ever tried to kill the rich jews, why did the rich ones get to just walk away from the whole situation. Its the rich that should of perished, Castro style revolution.
deceiver123m 1 year ago
FUCK YOU SHAW!!!
noyouaintgettingit 1 year ago
Is Zyklon B painless?
CRAPCANNONS 1 year ago
@CRAPCANNONS Actually the original Zyklon B gas was considered painless because it was invisible and didnt hurt the senses, But after a few german soldiers were gassed themselves while working with it a irratant was put into it so the handlers would know when they were being exposed to it. So yes it was painless but when as used by the germans it irratated the senses to the point of extreme pain.
TheStrazy 1 year ago
What a lunatic!
kingofqwerty 1 year ago
wsj article: Broke—and Building the Most Expensive School in U.S. History
Benches that talk, a Cocoanut Grove auditorium, and a marble slab engraved with quotes from Ted Kennedy.
On a California high school being built, the most expensive in US history even though CA is broke --but school being built on tax payer dollars. It will feature quotes from GBS on a marble slab. How pathetic! It does not say it in the title but its on the slide show.
DrMayte 1 year ago
This George Bernard Shaw was completely a lunatic. Hitler should have used him to test Cyclon B.
virusSOS 1 year ago
this man is clearly a buffoon, with soil in his brains.
tallStar55 1 year ago 4
The American left just loves this guy...and Margaret Sanger....and Woodrow Wilson...and Stalin....and Mao....and Che...and on and on and on...
Fucking hippies.
Edubbplate 1 year ago 9
Yeah, marx was against racism, that's why he called black people inferior and also why the soviets were more racist than the NAZIs.
texasgringooo 1 year ago 3
@texasgringooo Mmarx wasn't from Russia and died before Lenin was even born.
jenlight 1 year ago
@texasgringooo Explain how Soviets were more Racist than Nazis (this ought to be fun!)
jenlight 1 year ago
@jenlight They were... 6-7mln Ukrainian peasants killed "Holodomor", whole populations moved to remote places... all basically on ethnic grounds, but disguised in communist dialectics. They believed that some races are not predestined to achieve next stages of communist evolvement. e.g. Poles. There was a period Nazis sent their future death camp managers to Beria's friendly NKVD to learn how to select, how to punish, how to run a camp (1938-1941)
JojotAndTetoj 1 year ago 2
@JojotAndTetoj That shows that there was racism. Now show me how they were MORE racist than Nazis.
jenlight 1 year ago
@jenlight (1)
The Soviets and the Nazis alike believed in the darwinist/malthusian dogma that there were 'more evolved' forms of civilization: tribes and rural societies being the least evolved, and industrial, centrally-controlled civilization being the most evolved.
So Darwin, and later Marx and Engels, wrote about how primitive societies should be forcefully deculturalized and purged into forced labor, in industrial cities. The ones that wouldn't adapt or accept that, should be exterminated.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Darwin never wrote such a thing. Given that I so far only have your word, I require an actual citation before I seriously consider it of Marx or Engels either.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Darwin wrote about it on The Descent of Man. And it wasn't anything new, since the scientific socialists, like Saint-Simon, had already talked about "societal evolution",whereby a scientific elite would force the people into being good human resources.
On Marx, I'm not going to give a quotation, since I'm not your nanny. But go and read their 1850s papers, where they talk of the difference between the 'revolutionary' and the 'reactionary' peoples, and the need to wipe out the later.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Nope, Darrwin never wrote that anything should be done to "lesser" societies. Go back and reread it.
I suspect you're not going to give a quotation because you have nothing.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Lol. I'm not going to debate the sex of the angels with you pal. You're free to believe the moon is made of cheese, as far as I'm concerned. But the reference stays, for everyone else that might be interested: read 'The Descent of Man', by Darwin, for a good insight into the type of pseudoscientific bigotry that gave rise to western eugenics and soviet ethnic-based purges.
It's still present today, since it's the driving belief of both marxists and monopoly capitalists.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice "Sex of the angels"? We're not debating the finer talking point here but the major position. Darwin wrote that "lesser" races (he was a racist, there's no question on that) would eventually be eliminated and thus the apparent gap between ourselves and apes would widen. Eugenics and and the soviet purges may have been justified by perverting the writings of Darwin, but they did not rely on them. Artificial selection and ethnic hatred predate Darwin by ages.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
"Artificial selection and ethnic hatred predate Darwin by ages"
How is that possible when Darwin talked about those same concepts, albeit not using those exact words, in "The Descent of Man"?
Yet, it was published after Marx and Engels had already developed their hatred for, and their necessity to destroy, 'reaccionary peoples'; but it still served as an inspiration for his cousin's theory of inter and intra-ethnic eugenics.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Darwin couldn't write about concepts that predate him? Honestly don't know how to answer that. It's like someone who refuses to accept basic arithmetic.
By your own admission, Marx and Engels came by their hatred already. If they abuse a scientific theory for their own ends, of what relevance is that?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
I'm sorry, but if you wanna play spin-doctors, go find someone else to play with.
Marxist theory is all out in the open, it's verifiable, and so is Darwin's and the Nazi ideology. All of these advocate the evolution of society through to a 'highly developed' stage, and that all human societies must go under that process; otherwise they would impair or even endanger the development of the 'highest forms'.
These inhuman principles are still followed today, for the 'global society'.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice How is pointing out your poor logic a spin? And do you really not understand the difference between the scientific theory of biological evolution and political ideology using the term social evolution?
But just for the sake of argument, let's say that Darwin actually supported the views you say he did? So what?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Ahah the ad hominem is always beautiful :)
Well, let's start it all over then, just for ya:
- Darwin did support mass genocide and deculturalization for social evolution, as he stated quite openly in The Descent of Man.
- He was not creative, though; that had already been advocated in politicized science by the scientific socialists, e.g., Saint-Simon and Hegel;
- All of that set the stage for eugenics, mass deculturalization, genocide; either Soviet, or Nazi; or, now, globalist.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice 1) Perhaps you can provide the quote or at least the page number? I seem to have missed that part in my copy.
2)What does that even mean "He was not creative"?
3) No, pay attention. Those were already set in motion. Globalist? Are you a "New World Order" nutter?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
"Are you a "New World Order" nutter?"
No, I'm one of those boring guys who happens to read UN treaties, Bank for International Settlements reports, and Club of Rome books. These, I think are the 'new world order' nutters you're talking about, since they keep talking about their new world system of globalism, based on a merger of collectivism, for mass management, with monopoly capitalism, for the big banks and multinational corporations.
They're also eugenicists, by the way.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice In short; yes you are a new world nutter and no you can't back up your claims.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Listen pal..do you even have a life of your own..?
Perhaps you are the perfect soviet man, when one truly understands what that means ;)
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice I suppose that would sting if there were any evidence you had any clue of what you were talking about. If you're done with the ad hominem, how about you actually answer a question or support your position. Here's another question I'll bet you'll avoid. Do you believe in evolution or common descent or not?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Funny how you're trying to spin this into the theory of evolution itself. I didn't mention anything about that ;)
What interests me is Darwin's socio-political legitimization of Nazism, Socialism, and Monopoly Capitalism. (the eugenical systems, that believe in deculturalization, eradication of the undesirable, and 'societal evolution' by central committees made up of 'those who know best'). His views fit into those of the scientific socialists, like Hegel.
With that said, ba-bye.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Again, claims without support. I asked you to support your claim that he spells it out in The Descent of Man. You dodged. I challenged you on your claim re: eugenics. You dodged.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Ahah brilliant!
You asked for a reference, so I gave it: The Descent of Man. It's public, for everyone to read. Now, go read it. Don't be lazy. As I said, I'm not your nanny.
I don't have to 'prove things to you', just because you feel you deserve it. I can point out references, you can choose to not be lazy. That's how it works.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice I read those references. I have a copy of the Descent of Man. You lied.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Of course people that will actually read the book will know who the scheister here is. Fortunately, there's a criterium for truth, no matter how much people like you don't like it.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Another dodge. Have you ever actually read it or are you going by some favorite blogger. Here's a simple proof you can do. Quote a single sentence or name the chapter where Charles lays it out so clearly. While you're at it you might explain why all the creationists misquoting Darwin have not jumped all over this.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
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@Maxdwolf
I am not going to "prove" anything to you. I don't need to. I don't want to. I am not your nanny. Get that through your head.
If you want proof, actually go and read the book.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice "First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom" - Martin Luther
How did Martin Luther get a hold of a copy of Darwin and why doesn't he give him proper credit?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Lol you do work hard huh? Too bad for you I don't relate a bit to Martin Luther...
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Woosh! right over your head. Suppose I shouldn't be surprised. If the origins of such things like the extermination of millions of Jews by Hitler had its origins in Darwin, how did such sentiments show up earlier in the writings of a religious leader?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
What is it about the paradigm that says science should be employed to control the 'evolution' of society that you don't understand..?
Btw, you're focusing on Darwin (he must be some kind of fetish, for you), but he was really just another scientist/philosopher advocating the use of the scientific view to steer society. I also mentioned the scientific socialists (Fichte, Hegel, St.Simon, Comte); and i could also mention Malthus, the East India Co. advocate of looting and genocide.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice 1) Darwin never advanced that paradigm. 2) That was not the motive behind the acts of genocide in history
Yeah, god forbid we should rely on the facts and information that science provides us. You may wish global warming isn't happening, but the facts say otherwise. The thing is, you are ascribing motivations and values to some entirely without proof and buying into a large nutty conspiracy theory.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
I should know you're a greenie loony. Hope you fare-well into your closed down commune, paying carbon taxes through the nose, to the big banks. If they still let you have books by then (they're not tree-friendly), then use your spare time to read more on the history of ideas, particularly on eugenic thinking. Since its eugenics and the UN/Club of Rome's "first global revolution" (sic) that will get you into your closed-down greenie, common purpose commune.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice I suppose you think all the data showing temperature increases, the modeling that shows the observed co2 increases to be the only likely culprit, the shrinking glaciers and icepacks, all that's faked? At least I can see why you were unable to really cite any facts. You have none. Sheeple like you follow your conspiracy gurus like demented fan girls.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
See, I actually studied it . Enough to know there's been no statistically significant warming for the last 15 years (and even the IPCC admits that, now); and that the prime driver of climate is not CO2 (which is marginal, at best), but the input of solar and cosmic radiation and the cloud systems.
It's too bad that construccionist science, based on theoretical models, can pass off as real science, but it's not. The minority advocating that is being exposed by the day, though.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Congratulations on memorizing some talking points. You denialists should thank God for el nino, the solar cycle, and your inability to understand statistics. If you look at NOAA or GISS rather than HadCRUT the change is more significant. Check out Potholer54's vids on the issue. The problem w. the other models is that they don't track or explain the trend.
I think you meant constructivist, and bullshit.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
No, I mean what I mean, and that is construcionism. Social constructionism. The 'scientific' paradigm that says reality is a social construction, rather than objective and measurable. Under that, reality can be adjusted to theory, provided that there is a 'social consensus' backing it (being that consensus is redefined, it can be any social group, no matter how large or significant). In other words, it's dialectical materialism, the knowledge theory of Soviet anti-science.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Either way, it's bull. Climate science is based on the facts. Instrumental data, objective observations and the application of proven physical principles rule the findings.
The funny thing is, it is your beliefs that you are warding off the facts with.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
By the way, I hope you realize that, the more you show yourselves (I treat you as a collective, since you are a collective creature, quite clearly) to be arrogant, foul-mouthed, and insulting, the more discredited you become. So, please, go ahead: keep at it.
History will also remember you for that; for being little more than thugs, depending on personal attacks for debates, defrauding science.
Our conversation is now, definately, over. There is none, to have with you.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Yes, I should be so ashamed as you've been such a gentleman. *rolls eyes*
If you find it arrogant to actually research the facts and then stand by them, so be it.
This is the third time you've promised to go away. You've been about as honest in this as in the rest of your rhetoric so pardon me if I'm sceptical.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
As a matter of fact, every month that goes by, Dr. Piers Corbyn and his Weather Action team prove the warmists wrong, when they get weather trends right again and again, based on the study of solar activity. All the while, the arrogant warmist obscurantists are still clinging on to CO2 and computer models, and so they fail miserably in their predictions. I have no Schadenfreude, but I am glad the truth is getting out.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Piers Corbyn is one of the worst nuts out there. He actually claims there is no evidence tying c02 to global warming. We have experiments going back over a century. His predictions are not only insignificant, but have often failed.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Unlike what you would wish it to be, Dr. Corbyn has a track record, and it's almost spotless. Warmists have theirs, and it's always wrong. In the end, history will decide.
In the end, warmists will be remembered for being little more than intellectual prostitutes, a part of the great anti-scientific movement that tried to destroy empirical science, in the name of big profits and power consolidation.
The truth, including scientific truth, will always prevail.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice The only peer reviewed study of Corbyn's work showed him no better than average at weather forecasting. He has failed repeatedly in his predictions. When called out on this, rather than respond to his critics he has hidden his work away. I've gone to his site, he fails to openly list his predictions and their success rate. His failures are a matter of public record.
Climatologists have predicted increasing temperatures and that's what we've gotten, odd failure.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Piers Corbyn is right. There ain't correlation between CO2 and global warming. It's actually against the law of physics. German thermodynamics scientiests Gerhard Gerlich and Ralf D. Tscheuschner has also critisized the whole greenhouse gas theory as unscientific blunder.
tranmere789 1 year ago
@tranmere789 Wow. No correlation? So two physicists have invalidated 150 years of successful, predictive research? If you think the greenhouse effect violates thermodynamics you don't understand one or the other. G&T's paper is an embarrassing blunder. There's a good basic refutation at atmoz dot org. There are also other refutations sited at sourcewatch.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf Thanks for the history lesson.
Never mind, solar activity might increase in a year or two. Meanwhile, we get our arses taxed off for "burning carbon" because in 100 years we had +1F. thats 0.6C or +0.006C a year for unlocking the very life blood back onto the Earth. The carbon cycle.
I'd of killed that cunt Shaw, with an axe, slowly.
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws That would be almost be valid criticism if if the rise over the last century were a linear one. It is not. You might as well say the change has been +0.0006 over the last millenia. You also neglect the fact that an essential part of the carbon cycle is its reabsorbtion.
So you advocate violence over words?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf I've never thumped anyone in my life. What are you on about?
Deforestation in the past 30 years has gone beyond reason along with the human populace and the need to eat meat. of course it's non linear up to 1995. After 2005 the Earth's overall temp has plummeted. Especially in the Southern hemisphere.
p.s.. Fabians should be exterminated first. lol
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws Killing someone with an axe is generally considered violence by most people.
If you acknowledge that it's an exponential function, your initial point is invalidated. Deforestation has certainly contributed, but is not the major factor. I'm not sure why you brought up eating meat.
The earth's temps have not plummeted since 2005. They have not even been level.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf Axe - A point of view and actually doing it are two utterly different things. Not noticed?
AGW
Nothing is the major factor! No pogrom in the world ever caused global cooling! The science and logging has been totally blown out of the water as a fraud.
Cows poo methane by the gallon. It takes a lot of land to feed an animal. Brazilian land.
Read my last post. It's been the coldest winter in the UK for over 100 years. The US is house deep in places. A g/f's place is -20C. AUS = floods
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws Could not Shaw make the same excuse?
Pogrom? Logging? What the hell are you talking about? The science of climatology and evidence for AGW is well established.
Yes, and permafrost is increasingly releasing methane as it thaws. How does this help your point?
Individual cold areas are not evidence against global warming. Precipitation may be evidence for it. Do some real research.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf Its you who is confusing the two issues. Interestingly It was Fabian who predicted the use of climate change into subjugating the people.
I'n glad methane is being released from the soviet gas pipes. Tundra? you mean that frozen soil from warmer times?
Individual cold areas. Whoa! I like that! We are at a maunder minimum. I already won a hefty bet off one of you clever clogs that this winter would be exceptional.
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws No, you are applying a double standard, and in this case it makes you a hypocrite.
Ok, Fabian was wrong. So?
Having permafrost thaw doesn't mean it's any good for agriculture. One must also balance any possible gains there against loss of farmland elsewhere, the disruption of ecosystems, and the collapse of fisheries. And if global warming isn't happening, why do you argue it may be a good thing.
Global December 2010 temp was +0.18 C.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf Define this "double standard"
Fabianism is very wrong! The trouble is, its being applied throughout the world. A few countries are dismantling it this very day. Mainly North African.
This AGW shit. OK. First you are off topic. Charging Nations for using fuel does not stop AGW and go fuck off to the Sahal where they are gaining 170,000 km^2 of green land a year due to global cooling.
The rest is all in your mind. Stop throwing dead fish back in the sea might help.
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws Google it. You held yourself to a different standard. If you can't grasp that, there's no helping you.
You bring up Fabianism but I'm off topic? You're a funny guy.
Again if global warming isn't happening, why is it having effects? Can you guarantee the gains in the sahel will outweigh the losses in the US Southwest, India, Europe and Bangladesh?
All in my mind? No, all those problems are well documented. The temp gain comes from UAH satellite measurements.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf There's no helping you my Fabian eugenic, mas murdering climate change taxation loving friend.
Sat measurements are so misunderstood. Believe. I used to calibrate the IR scanners. Reflectance!
Bangladesh =Forests cut down upstream due to overpopulation.
India, overpopulation.
US SW. due to cooling.
Don't come the "well documented". Depends who's paying the scientist. The 3,600 UN scientists on the AGW list; only 76 actually back it.
This will enlighten you: /watch?v=x-CrNlilZho
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws Oh great, another NWO nut. Lying about me won't help you.
Are you saying that all those technicians know less than you do about interpreting satellite data? You do know it's satellite data is what pointed to greening of the Sahel. Are satellites only correct when they agree with you?
Yes, deforestation is a problem. So are rising seas. Overpopulation is a problem. So is drought due to missing glaciers.
There is no cooling you twit.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf It's called "follow the money". Or, "To gain tenure, you get the answers I want, ok?".
What rising seas? Fucking Al Gore made $800M out of this scam and bought a $4M condo in San Fran bay at sea level!
Fabians want the world population reduced. watch the fecking video will ya! The Southern hemisphere is rapidly expanding its glaciers in summer!
p.s. You are off topic. What's wrong with you? Trying to hiding an inescapable fact the Fabians are intrinsically evil?
/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws You're following the wrong money. There's a great deal more money to be had from the oil companies. And are the conspiracists causing the glacier's to melt?
Stop believing everything you watch on youtube. A conspiracy theorist video is evidence only that conspiracy theorists exist on youtube.
The oceans are not expected to rise a full 20 feet for about a century. And Al Gore is irrelevant anyway.
1) You have yet to show the Fabian conspiracy exists. 2) Fact or not, still OT.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf OFF TOPIC:
Youtube info be blowed. Carries all aspects of data as shaky as your AGW theory.
OFF TOPIC:
OPEC are lying over the size of the oil reserves. Soon be gone.Then you will be praying for AGW to happen.
Fabians are Fabians. Two faced, manipulative liars that have done no good for society.
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws If you can't tell the difference between a youtube video and an actual reliable source there is not hope for you.
Why would OPEC publicly underestimate the size of their reserves? It's in their best interest to inflate prices.
The Fabian society is a gradualist democratic socialist movement. Your ridiculous theories tying them to nonexistent genocide are what need to be proved.
Fabian
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf Youtube, financial insiders or wikileaks? It's you who has no idea what you are talking about.
No its not in OPEC's best interest to inflate prices.They get paid with bonds. Do they want the bond values to plummet into nothing? duh! maxkeiser might help you there.
Hitler was a pro-Fabian socialist. The old in UK homes are drugged until they do not eat nor drink to death. Try getting into the real world and look around. Stop being the parasite you are.
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws You need to stop being such a sheeple. You actually think people are being killed in old folks homes as part of a socialist agenda?
OPEC doesn't get paid with bonds. They get paid in dollars, much of which they invest in bonds. They are free to invest elsewhere.
If the world isn't getting warmer, why is the Arctic ice getting thinner? Why are glaciers retreating? Why is spring coming earlier? Why is the tundra thawing?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf The bonds are in dollars. It's something that comes from a printing press, hence the debts.
The lack of solar activity has weakened the trade winds. That is why a lot the USA is suffering the cold. Russia has got it extremely bad atm with parts of the South in 2m, -20C drifts. The South is literally plummeting off the scale. Not seen the news? La nina has messed up AUS dead bad. Look at the Antarctic! See the graphs!!!
And uninformed proles like you call me sheeple!! U can't even lie.
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws The Saudis are free to switch currencies at any time and the price of their product would be sure to rise more than the currency deflates.
Have you never heard of the Arctic Oscillation or the NAO? There's no evidence of reduced solar activity this year. Your statement of the southern hemisphere is an utter crock.
Cherry picking doesn't make you knowledgeable.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
so, when the going gets tough, the people you argue become 'nuts'
shame on you. either get familiar with the facts that are thrown at you, or stay ignorant, but don't call people nuts, especially people you never really met in your life
grozlz 1 year ago
@grozlz No, if the guy spouts nonsense he's a nut. Really, all these posts and that's all you took away?
Shame on you for distorting the facts
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
Btw, they also think of you as an 'inferior type', see; the tradition that was inaugurated by people like Malthus, the scientific socialists, Darwin, Spencer, Galton. Etc. You see, there are 'superior types' in the species and these are the ones who own investment banks and get filthy rich on carbon taxes; and there are the 'inferior types', who are to get very poor (austere, like the UN and the IMF say) paying those. All the while, the planet will be cooling, ironically enough.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice You don't even understand the philosophies you warn against. But then, you have to twist things to get such a distorted world view.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf (2)
Darwin merely tried to legitimize that, as a social/political extension of his theory of biology. He merely made that vision of things appear 'scientific', for the public. Pseudo-scientific. As a matter of fact, Marx even wrote him a letter at one point, congratulating him for legitimizing dialectic materialism (i.e., social "evolution" towards the hegelian state, through contrived conflict).
But Darwin isn't even the fulcrum here. This inhumane vision of things is.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Boy, you find yourself in a hole and just keep digging. Not only did you not address any previous criticisms, but now you come up with even more nonsense? Evolution by natural selection is a scientific theory supported by mountains of evidence. What Marx may or may not have had to say about it is irrelevant.
I agree. An inhumane vision is what leads to many of the injustices of the world. This vision can be found everywhere, including the bible. Your point?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
On the other points, I already made my point and, as I said, I'm not here to play at spin-doctoring and dialectics with you. So, if you wanna, go find someone else to play.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
A good essay to start with is by Engels, "The Magyar Struggle", published in Neue Rheinische Zeitung, no. 194, January 1849. You can even find it on marxistsDOTorg. This documentary, the Soviet Story, actually has a quote from it.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice Engels writes of a war in that essay. And in the manner of rhetoric typical of such propaganda he writes of his side wiping out the other. Doesn't say what you said it did.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@Maxdwolf
He doesn't just write of a war; he writes of a particular view of what development and 'social evolution' means. Of what should drive the "world war" he anticipates there. And his is the perspective of marxist theory, when they talk of the "evolutionary perspective" of society.
But, as I said, you're very free to believe whatever you want.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice I don't need your permission for my beliefs, even less to acknowledge the facts. The views you write of are not evinced in the essay you put forth. There is no evidence there of any connection between Darwin and the Marxists (use of the word evolution, if it exists, is not evidence).
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice
First, Marx did not write anything of that sort.
Second, and I will only say this one more time, Marx was not a Soviet and the Soviets were not Marxists.
Last, go actually read something.
jenlight 1 year ago
@jenlight
Yes he did, and just because you have a religious belief to the contrary, that shouldn't prevent you from actually going into who your guru was, and what he believed.
You should also go into his heroes, Hegel and Saint-Simon. His elitist, virulent view of reality came from these people.
And yes, he was not a Soviet, but the Soviets enhacted his principles with devotion. They were true Marxists, as all their victims know.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@jenlight (2)
So, that's what the Soviets did, through mass genocide and forced deculturalization; and their model was essentially copied from what the British malthusian darwinists had already been doing in India and South Africa.
The Nazis were also on board with all of that, so, like the Soviets (and the British before that), their war of cultural purging was directed against independent peoples that wouldn't easily accept the 'industrial state utopia': Jews, Slav subgroups and Gipsies.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@LibertyTruthJustice I'm not saying Stalin wasn't racist. Although I'd argue he wasn't even close to Hitler. He was paranoid in an entirely different way. He killed either because of his paranoia or because he thought it was monetarily efficient.
These are apples and oranges. And I think Stalin was one of the most evil men to ever live, but it does nobody any good to simplify anything by saying "they were like Nazis" or "he was like Hitler".
jenlight 1 year ago
@jenlight
Yes, Stalin was completely paranoid and that was the main reason for his incredible 'inner party' purges. But, when you go into what he (and Lenin) did to the population at large, you find the economic reason is the essential one. They were trying to build up an industrial empire, and as such, they used the population as cheap, disposable human resources. They essentially repeated what had been done in England, 100 years earlier.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@jenlight
But, and this is key, they were also trying to create "the new soviet man" -- the 'Fichtian man' really. To create such a creature, they needed to ultra-socialize the entire population (through education, regimented city life, and so on) and, as such, they needed to get rid of the independent types - the ones that wouldn't accept soviet living.
That was also a major driving force behind the mass cullings inflicted on the Ukrainians, the Kazakhs, the Russian rural population and so on.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@jenlight
I will also add this, that I always point out to people -- on the plethora of western corporations and banks that went into the USSR to build up their megafactories. Even their central bank was controlled by something called the Ruskombank, that was run by Anglo-Americans. In several cases, the assistance went on during the entire Cold War.
The best studies on this are the academic works of Prof. Antony Sutton, of Stanford -- his career was basically ruined for going into this field.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
Evil based on race and religion or evil based on class. Evil is Evil.
backtotheday 1 year ago
There's never been proper evidence of gas chambers in Auschwitz or any other supposed "death camp" (in reality simple concentration camps) the Germans had during WWII.
FFulmenTheFinnish 1 year ago
George Bernard Shaw is dead and buried thank God for that and his plays sucked.
kombatzero 1 year ago
It will happen again, and soon.
mborgs44 2 years ago 3
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the western democracies killed more people in profitable wars, than communism and Nazism.
heydrich10 2 years ago
Your an absolute moron. Communism, Socialism, Marxism, Facism, Nazism are all the same basic thing and they are the biggest killers of all time and always will be. They seek to place total control in the state and remove all moral duty to a higher being by placing themselves as the arbiters of relative moral truth. In others words that means whatever fits their whim at the time and any body who opposes. Well they can just be gassed. Only the socialist would care if it was humane killing gas
myeyepie 2 years ago 20
@myeyepie don't forget it's new name Islamic fundamentalism.
polarbeach 2 years ago
They would prefer to use a nice long blade and lop of your head. Either way they are all evil at their core no matter how much they try to convince the stupid lazy masses that they are there to help them.
myeyepie 2 years ago
@myeyepie How many Iranians have died now because of non-existent weapons of mass destruction?
Each of those Ideologies are different son, if you had a proper education system, you'd know that.
It's much better to place your moral duty in the hands of corporations that have no morals?
MilanTbay 2 years ago
Your comment is probably the first where I wondered to myself why I was taking the time to respond.
I dont know how many "IRANians" have died in the IRAQ war currently being run by our semi facist US government under GWB and now Extermely Facist US Goverment under BHO soon to be full blown murderous Marxist US government. Enlighten us all.The worthless Us educational system I wasted 17 years in taught me socialism was good. It was in real life that I learned that was Heaping Stinking Bull crap
myeyepie 2 years ago 2
Obama isn't Marxist, socialist or any other left wing ism you said were all the same in your first response. He's a Capitalist, hardcore. He is wringing out the Sheeple for all they are worth.
Problem with true socialism is that the people HAVE to get (and allowed to be) involved in the government. Most are too lazy, greedy and stupid so it's easy to control them with Consumerism and Mass Media.
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@MilanTbay Non-existent? What's non-existent about a store of yellow-cake uranium so very real that even your vaunted CNN had to give our military's removal of it from Iraq at least a mention in their ticker?
MacRaeWarrior 2 years ago
@myeyepie Communism, socialism,fascism,marxism, nazism ... are all the same thing? Well they must be because they all end with -ism and sound nasty... lol You really need an academic education,son. As for Shaw, lol ... He was a master of satire and cynicism. You can count on the simpletons and right-wingers to take things out of context to advance their agendas.
WhenLilacsLast 1 year ago
Let us compare the USSR and Nazi Germany at the End of World War 2. Both had entirely Bolshevized economies and both were fiercely nationalistic.
Hitlers economic policy is only slightly more moderate than Marxes. He left the huge welfare programs of Otto Von Bismarck in place and the Nazi Government appropriated the goods which were produced, and this was before WW2. Hitler himself said that Stalin was (paraphrasing) a "Grand Man in his own way, half man , half giant"
TheBigLebbowskii 1 year ago
Also, you would do well to remember that before it became known simply as the Nazi party it was the "National Socialist German Workers Party". The Nazis didnt just talk with the same slogans as the Communists, they acted on them. Hitler and the Nazi's advocated for the abolition of class differences period with the objective of subservience to the state. They hated Unrestricted, Western style capitalism, and the Nazis proceeded to heavily regulate all the German industries.
TheBigLebbowskii 1 year ago
Another key likeness between the Marxists and Hitler was their attack on Religion. In Hitlers case it was more alike to Bismarcks "KultureKampf" against the German Catholic church than it was the Communist purges. The Nazi's substituted copies of Mein Kampf for Bibles in services, replaced Priests at marriage ceremonies with SS officers, and persecuted extreme Christian denominations such as the Jehova Witnesses.
TheBigLebbowskii 1 year ago
It is true that Hitler frequently appealed to God, even the Christian one, particularly in public. But it was merely to further his aims, not unlike the Soviets reviving Russian orthodoxy during WW2 for nationalist purposes. Hitler himself said (In the book, Hitlers Table Talk) that Darwinism had destroyed the Christian dogma, and he approached Christianity from the point of view of Nietzsche,essentially, Christianity is a Religion of the Weak.
TheBigLebbowskii 1 year ago
@TheBigLebbowskii
Good posts! I'll just add that Hitler was also heavily into the occult. He rose to power through the Thule society that was heavily influenced by the Theosophical society. The swastika and stiff arm salute was used as a symbol for Theosophy and also for socialism here in the U.S. well before the Nazis(google rex curry). Hitlers close friends said Hitler was a channel for spirits and was rarely ever "himself". We are not rid of Nazism, it lives on through the New Age Religion.
CLEVERBRA1N 1 year ago
Thanks!
Hitler was definitely into the occult, but it seems to me that he was much less so than some of the people in the Nazi Party, particularly Himmler.
"We are not rid of Nazism, it lives on through the New Age Religion."
I see your point, but I honestly think that's a ridiculous charge. New Age Religion and Nazi Occultism may have loads in common but they do not seem particularly like minded. New Age is merely a stupid conglomerate about vague ideas, Nazism is a complete Ethos.
TheBigLebbowskii 1 year ago